Really great run that proves your point very well. It’s not about being faster, it’s about having more granularity and freedom in the way you want to move, although obviously being faster is a consequence of these changes
Funnily enough it's the opposite for me. Being faster is the point and in order to be faster (in a complex environment) you need granularity/freedom to be able to think of and execute the fastest route, while the video being impressive and satisfying is a result of that. In the end though I guess I'm arguing semantics
There is SO MUCH that goes into throughly explaining the proper use of these mods in a way that will actually get through to people and help them understand why grounding of these moves is so important. It's an uphill battle, but you're fighting the good fight. The community is lucky to have people like you who care enough to send the message.
Pitch: Make a collective podcast and channel called the council of the brotherhood with Animus drifter, Leo K [Rogue] and Altair stealth and have drifter talk on Parkour, Altair Stealth talk about... stealth and Leo K talk about 'Rogue' playstyles
I can't do this mod justice like you can AD, I've tried it for a while and my god, there's so much more movesets and tweaks, it's like playing an entirely different game, I'll probably try the mod again after I fully mastered and understand the classic AC parkour and mechanics.
Lol it’s a nightmare trying to remember all the combinations and moves you can pull off on mouse and key. I do think this mod is a very promising start though, just takes a while to learn.
In terms of this kind of "platforms in space" level design, I think treating the mod as a purely technical toolset is much more reasonable because of how divorced the courses are from the historical context of the Assassin fantasy. I could of course see concerns about applying lessons learned into city gameplay. That being said, you came up with some really creative optimizations here, even bypassing the need for ejects entirely without creating momentum out of thin air
@@icarusgaming6269 I'd absolutely agree, though the context of an Animus still exists to calibrate you with how your ancestor would've been, in order to get back into sync, still (imo) warranting grounded mod usage. The sadly already overgrown meta problem is that people unfairly judging and using the mod never made the difference either, meaning that any and all abuse in these stages would instantly be seen as acceptable in the city. Also thank you, really glad you enjoyed the optimizations i came across, it was surprisingly fun to figure it out
Lmaoo thank you, the temps are just the result of playing on a laptop, which isn't my main rig as stated in the video. I don't make money from this, but thanks for the sub either way
@@animusdrifter No worries my guy! always got your back! well I myself am a editor (the struggling kind) I was looking for channels to find until I stumbled upon you. I feel you man.. Do you know some channels where I can work?
Well, AC1 and AC2 is the starting point AC3 add animation for moving upward and down AC Unity, many climbing movements that used to be divided into two manual operations are automated and have corresponding animations Just when I thought they would continue to make their animation system better... There comes the AC Origin and ect... Huh...
2:21 could you have used a super hop here to jump on top of the platform, avoiding the upcoming wallrun? (Making the whole "mod being faster" debate pointless in my eyes, of course mods can be faster if all I want to do is change jump distance values to ridiculous degrees, pressing one button to avoid 3 canceld wallrun optimisations...)
I probably could've, but that'd classify as mod abuse as it pushes Ezio's jump range beyond what he's capable of reaching, which would indeed make mod usage pointless as you said
@@marooned_k In cases where you're trying to force a foot landing onto features that should be able to support Ezio's feet for at least a short while, without breaking jump range. One of the examples is landing onto swinging poles with feet.
Thanks for the showcase and in-depth explanation, I didn't catch your use of freeform until you mentioned it. This mod is amazing even on a more casual level since you can just set the amount of granular control into only what you plan on using. Also I personally made the auto swing activate only on R1 so that I could complete some of the secret locations with vanilla inputs.
My only criticism is maybe have the text during the side-by-side comparison. appear for longer, as they seem to pass by too quick alongside the other text that appears, looking at the controller inputs and what each ezio is doing at the same time
That's very fair, I felt it too, but it also started creating overlap of several texboxes and whatnot. I could've done a lot of slow motion/freeze framing to counteract that, but as I'm not home I sadly don't have my main rig (which makes editing less laggy) nor the time for all of that right now, sorry! :(
My pc can handle even newer ac games but my accessories like mouse and keyboard are cheap and they prevent me from using this mod well (Can't press space+shift together) and many other keys 😢 Are there is a way i can change the keybinds for some keys? Thank you for the amazing mod (probably the best mod for the old ac games)❤
Sadly, changing binds is absolute hell due to how CE handles hotkeys. It's not impossible theoretically, but it'd be a significant hassle :( (Btw I'm not the mod author, HenryPDT is, as listed in the description lol)
Hey, I tried to install eaglepatch ac2 and the definitive parkour mod and when i would launch it would a white screen and i couldn't play the game. Do you have any fix for this?
@@Sam-lf3hn That's honestly a great question, as they can be tricky, though one problem is that I just don't have access to all the controller input types, so I couldn't make a guide on anything but the dualsense I have right now
2:08, 2:14 horse flip isn't possible without a horse and Ezio isn't that fast. 2:21, 2:33, 3:01 I think that roof swing is realistic as the arms are temporary insurance if the jumps go wrong Ezio doesn't hit his head.
@@siegebug The self flip should be possible without horse entry momentum. The horse swing out indeed only makes sense with the momentum of a horse or a greater fall. Still, the wrap around the same beam should be grounded enough from a full speed Ezio sprint, if a horse swing-off is available from horse sprint speed.
@@animusdrifter hey thank you for the super quick answer, I'm having a few problems with the passive swing, as most of the times when I want to go up a pole, Ezio jumps and tries to swing. Is there a way to override this during gameplay? I've watched the mod guide multiple times and tried some combinations but no luck. I like the passive and didn't want to deactivate it but it really kills the flow during runs sometimes...
@@animusdrifter Actually I meant that I wanted ezio to jump directly on top of the pole with his feet, without hanging from it before. There are situations in which i think he should be doing that instead. Is there somewhere i can send you a clip because i've tried three times explaining it in words and I feel dumb
This may be the wrong place to ask this question, but you talk a lot about the mod, and this happens to be the most convenient for me. So can I remap the keybinds for the moves on Keyboard+Mouse??
@@kumasenpai9 Ahh lol, it's something i custom edited for the channel and just ended up using as the background. It's just the brotherhood main menu animus background with some value/contrast/etc. changes
I have a guide on the majority of its features, even if the entire point of this video was to show how modded features affected the run. The modded analysis is exactly that lol
@@animusdrifter Okay but what does it do, say, in theory. Like does it speed up the animation rate or like change its jump length or height or it adds new animations ?
@@saurabhpathakYT It does a plethora of things, from unlocking behaviors previously thought impossible, to repurposing the extremely extensive and robust base of the system to extreme levels. As an example, that swing on the platform is entirely a modded feature, forced parkour down biases on prescriptive moves as well, as well as forced freeform moves and combinations of all of its modifiers, as well as a hundred other things. There's so much to it, and it all complements the already insane vanilla movement really well. To concretely learn what all it does, you can check out my guide, which covers most of what was there before recent updates, or the modpage linked in the description.
@@saurabhpathakYT Ay, sure thing, though I'd recommend getting proficient and relatively accustomed to vanilla movement first, if you already haven't Things like ejects, button discipline, ledge grabs etc. should feel like somewhat comfortable concepts before the mod falls into place, imo
The topic is so insanely complex and in depth that i don't even know where to begin. It boils down to the image of ac parkour and the mod in general being insanely prone to getting skewed and every last community effort to popularize it getting utterly destroyed or disfigured. Due to mod abuse, there's genuinely people who haven't seen classic AC movement before, who got to see a swing up (abusive/ungrounded usage) before they got to see a height gaining eject. People who end up in such situation will naturally proceed to believe that THAT is the way to solve the problem of their "slow and uncontrollable" Ezio, skewing the intention behind the mod as well, perceiving it as something that fixes issues that literally do not exist, instead of something that complements a parkour system that people have yet to learn about to begin with. This is but an example, I've seen far worse, I do this for a reason, and I won't stop.
this is different tho. there are AC youtubers that upload modded parkour video without "Grounded" and dont even mention, so if anybody stumbles upon this video would get a wrong idea of how the classic parkour is superior in dealing with animation and momentum.
all this mod does is for beginners is let you freely do a beamflip and allows vault. it lets you do tons of other things but if you are new it wont even matter or realuze the difference. ANd AC classic parkour even at vanilla is 10x better than any of the sequels in terms of precision and player expression
I can only imagine what AC would've been like if your videos were popular back then. You're really doing AC justice
@@ajackxe4891 Thank you so much, I'm so glad you think I am
It feels like a video essay is needed to discuss this important topic at length.
underrated soundtrack btw!
Agreed, wish I had the time to make one lol
Really great run that proves your point very well. It’s not about being faster, it’s about having more granularity and freedom in the way you want to move, although obviously being faster is a consequence of these changes
Thank you so much Kino! I'm so glad my point came across as cleanly as that, you summarized my conclusion beautifully.
Funnily enough it's the opposite for me. Being faster is the point and in order to be faster (in a complex environment) you need granularity/freedom to be able to think of and execute the fastest route, while the video being impressive and satisfying is a result of that. In the end though I guess I'm arguing semantics
There is SO MUCH that goes into throughly explaining the proper use of these mods in a way that will actually get through to people and help them understand why grounding of these moves is so important.
It's an uphill battle, but you're fighting the good fight. The community is lucky to have people like you who care enough to send the message.
@@Ropotopolous You have no clue how glad I am you're with me on literally all of this, it means so much
@@animusdrifter can't have the parkour police after me.
@@Ropotopolous Esp if you're part of it ;)
Still insane that this guy just came up on the scene and completely engulfed the entire AC community what felt like overnight. Bro is EVERYWHERE now
I'm a plague, beware lol.
Though you're right, time also flew by real fast, but it's technically been a while since I've started now
🐐soundtrack usage
Hell yea :)
I understand the aesthetic of grounded gameplay, but I wouldnt mind ALSO seeing what kind of crazy movement you can do if you do abuse mod features.
Pitch: Make a collective podcast and channel called the council of the brotherhood with Animus drifter, Leo K [Rogue] and Altair stealth and have drifter talk on Parkour, Altair Stealth talk about... stealth and Leo K talk about 'Rogue' playstyles
I can't do this mod justice like you can AD, I've tried it for a while and my god, there's so much more movesets and tweaks, it's like playing an entirely different game, I'll probably try the mod again after I fully mastered and understand the classic AC parkour and mechanics.
@@s0daapoppin
Lol it’s a nightmare trying to remember all the combinations and moves you can pull off on mouse and key. I do think this mod is a very promising start though, just takes a while to learn.
Christ I need a PC
You deserve a good one homie
I'll buy you one if you buy me one.
@@Ropotopolous Lmao would if I could
I relate so much to that comment
I have always tried to keep it grounded, thanks to your tips
I appreciate that so, so much. No problem
Maybe its time for me to come back to AC
It's never time save your soul🗣
In terms of this kind of "platforms in space" level design, I think treating the mod as a purely technical toolset is much more reasonable because of how divorced the courses are from the historical context of the Assassin fantasy. I could of course see concerns about applying lessons learned into city gameplay. That being said, you came up with some really creative optimizations here, even bypassing the need for ejects entirely without creating momentum out of thin air
@@icarusgaming6269 I'd absolutely agree, though the context of an Animus still exists to calibrate you with how your ancestor would've been, in order to get back into sync, still (imo) warranting grounded mod usage. The sadly already overgrown meta problem is that people unfairly judging and using the mod never made the difference either, meaning that any and all abuse in these stages would instantly be seen as acceptable in the city.
Also thank you, really glad you enjoyed the optimizations i came across, it was surprisingly fun to figure it out
I know this really technical and analytical and stuff but all I got was that modded makes him a smooth criminal.
@@Dastrid lmaoo
great explanation!
Thank you so much!
your cpu and gpu temps are way high! I subscribed man so that you get more support and earn some bucks.
Lmaoo thank you, the temps are just the result of playing on a laptop, which isn't my main rig as stated in the video. I don't make money from this, but thanks for the sub either way
@@animusdrifter No worries my guy! always got your back! well I myself am a editor (the struggling kind) I was looking for channels to find until I stumbled upon you. I feel you man.. Do you know some channels where I can work?
@@DarkClawss Aw dang I see, I sadly don't directly know any channels that could need an editor at the moment :(
Great! I suppose it's time for me to go and practice.
Ay, good luck!
@@animusdrifter I'll make my own luck; you wishing me so grants me a bonus sprinkle of it, which I appreciate. Cheers!
Dr Side Eject strikes again
@@cyguslorman You know it ;)
hey brother,ive been trying to use this mod,but my game keeps crashing when i use an input from the mod.how to fix this?
great video as always Luka
Lmaooo thank you so much homie
Well, AC1 and AC2 is the starting point
AC3 add animation for moving upward and down
AC Unity, many climbing movements that used to be divided into two manual operations are automated and have corresponding animations
Just when I thought they would continue to make their animation system better... There comes the AC Origin and ect...
Huh...
2:21 could you have used a super hop here to jump on top of the platform, avoiding the upcoming wallrun? (Making the whole "mod being faster" debate pointless in my eyes, of course mods can be faster if all I want to do is change jump distance values to ridiculous degrees, pressing one button to avoid 3 canceld wallrun optimisations...)
I probably could've, but that'd classify as mod abuse as it pushes Ezio's jump range beyond what he's capable of reaching, which would indeed make mod usage pointless as you said
@@animusdrifterok but in what case could you use super hop that wouldn't classify as mod abuse
@@marooned_k In cases where you're trying to force a foot landing onto features that should be able to support Ezio's feet for at least a short while, without breaking jump range. One of the examples is landing onto swinging poles with feet.
Thanks for the showcase and in-depth explanation, I didn't catch your use of freeform until you mentioned it.
This mod is amazing even on a more casual level since you can just set the amount of granular control into only what you plan on using. Also I personally made the auto swing activate only on R1 so that I could complete some of the secret locations with vanilla inputs.
@@lamellarm6546 I'm so glad you found as much value in this video
If any mod can bring 'skip cutscene l will reinstall AC1
My only criticism is maybe have the text during the side-by-side comparison. appear for longer, as they seem to pass by too quick alongside the other text that appears, looking at the controller inputs and what each ezio is doing at the same time
That's very fair, I felt it too, but it also started creating overlap of several texboxes and whatnot.
I could've done a lot of slow motion/freeze framing to counteract that, but as I'm not home I sadly don't have my main rig (which makes editing less laggy) nor the time for all of that right now, sorry! :(
@@animusdrifter no worries, it was a great video regardless!
@@idrinkdiesel8451 Ay, thank you
My pc can handle even newer ac games but my accessories like mouse and keyboard are cheap and they prevent me from using this mod well (Can't press space+shift together) and many other keys 😢
Are there is a way i can change the keybinds for some keys?
Thank you for the amazing mod (probably the best mod for the old ac games)❤
Sadly, changing binds is absolute hell due to how CE handles hotkeys. It's not impossible theoretically, but it'd be a significant hassle :(
(Btw I'm not the mod author, HenryPDT is, as listed in the description lol)
Hey, I tried to install eaglepatch ac2 and the definitive parkour mod and when i would launch it would a white screen and i couldn't play the game. Do you have any fix for this?
Interesting, do you have a pirated version of the game?
@@animusdrifter nah ubisoft connect
do you have the fix?
@@karomba123try turning off (set to 0) the ImproveDrawDistance and ImproveShadowMapResolution in EaglePatchAC2.ini
Any chance you'll make a tutorial on how to get controllers to work with these games?
@@Sam-lf3hn That's honestly a great question, as they can be tricky, though one problem is that I just don't have access to all the controller input types, so I couldn't make a guide on anything but the dualsense I have right now
@@animusdrifter gotcha
2:08, 2:14 horse flip isn't possible without a horse and Ezio isn't that fast.
2:21, 2:33, 3:01 I think that roof swing is realistic as the arms are temporary insurance if the jumps go wrong Ezio doesn't hit his head.
@@siegebug The self flip should be possible without horse entry momentum. The horse swing out indeed only makes sense with the momentum of a horse or a greater fall.
Still, the wrap around the same beam should be grounded enough from a full speed Ezio sprint, if a horse swing-off is available from horse sprint speed.
Hey is there somewhere to ask and chat about the mod? I'm have a few questions about the new movement system
@@pherdee6908 There isn't necessarily a predefined place for it beside general communities you might find me in, but you could also ask about it here!
@@animusdrifter hey thank you for the super quick answer, I'm having a few problems with the passive swing, as most of the times when I want to go up a pole, Ezio jumps and tries to swing. Is there a way to override this during gameplay? I've watched the mod guide multiple times and tried some combinations but no luck. I like the passive and didn't want to deactivate it but it really kills the flow during runs sometimes...
@@pherdee6908 No problem
@@animusdrifter Actually I meant that I wanted ezio to jump directly on top of the pole with his feet, without hanging from it before. There are situations in which i think he should be doing that instead. Is there somewhere i can send you a clip because i've tried three times explaining it in words and I feel dumb
@@pherdee6908 Sure thing! You can send me a clip.
Is it possible to get this mod working on Steamdeck?
I don't think so, not sure, though. You might want to check with the mod author
@@animusdrifter Thank You! Also who is the mod author?
@@sagekage93 Np, HenryPDT is the author, mentioned in the video's description
This may be the wrong place to ask this question, but you talk a lot about the mod, and this happens to be the most convenient for me. So can I remap the keybinds for the moves on Keyboard+Mouse??
It's probably possible, but also painful as hell because of how CE handles hotkeys, it could prove to just be absolute hell
@@animusdrifter oh man. I don't have a mouse with Thumb buttons, so I don't know how this'll end
@@thatsaweirdone Ohhh boy, I'm very sorry
Maybe getting on controller could help? I know it's a shift too big most probably
@@animusdrifter no i don't think controllers are an option. I'll see what happens, thanks for the info anyway
@@thatsaweirdone Ah dang, I see 😔
No problem, and good luck
Bro what is that wallpaper I need that 😭😭
@@kumasenpai9 What wallpaper?
@@animusdrifter your desktop wallpaper that memory core corridor type
@@animusdrifterthat memory corridor type wallpaper I saw in tutuorial video
@@kumasenpai9 Ahh lol, it's something i custom edited for the channel and just ended up using as the background. It's just the brotherhood main menu animus background with some value/contrast/etc. changes
@@animusdrifter ahh thanks for the info
Wait how can you install mods on a ps4
Sadly, you can't
Oh well thanks tho
But what does the mod do actually ?
I have a guide on the majority of its features, even if the entire point of this video was to show how modded features affected the run. The modded analysis is exactly that lol
@@animusdrifter Okay but what does it do, say, in theory. Like does it speed up the animation rate or like change its jump length or height or it adds new animations ?
@@saurabhpathakYT It does a plethora of things, from unlocking behaviors previously thought impossible, to repurposing the extremely extensive and robust base of the system to extreme levels. As an example, that swing on the platform is entirely a modded feature, forced parkour down biases on prescriptive moves as well, as well as forced freeform moves and combinations of all of its modifiers, as well as a hundred other things. There's so much to it, and it all complements the already insane vanilla movement really well.
To concretely learn what all it does, you can check out my guide, which covers most of what was there before recent updates, or the modpage linked in the description.
@@animusdrifter Alright thanks a lot. I think I'll be playing my next playthrough with this mod.
@@saurabhpathakYT Ay, sure thing, though I'd recommend getting proficient and relatively accustomed to vanilla movement first, if you already haven't
Things like ejects, button discipline, ledge grabs etc. should feel like somewhat comfortable concepts before the mod falls into place, imo
I really don't get those people that complain about how others play in a single player game, or what mods they use.....
The topic is so insanely complex and in depth that i don't even know where to begin.
It boils down to the image of ac parkour and the mod in general being insanely prone to getting skewed and every last community effort to popularize it getting utterly destroyed or disfigured. Due to mod abuse, there's genuinely people who haven't seen classic AC movement before, who got to see a swing up (abusive/ungrounded usage) before they got to see a height gaining eject.
People who end up in such situation will naturally proceed to believe that THAT is the way to solve the problem of their "slow and uncontrollable" Ezio, skewing the intention behind the mod as well, perceiving it as something that fixes issues that literally do not exist, instead of something that complements a parkour system that people have yet to learn about to begin with.
This is but an example, I've seen far worse, I do this for a reason, and I won't stop.
this is different tho.
there are AC youtubers that upload modded parkour video without "Grounded" and dont even mention, so if anybody stumbles upon this video would get a wrong idea of how the classic parkour is superior in dealing with animation and momentum.
I've been wanting to replay the trilogy but i refuse to unless it's with mods 🥲
all this mod does is for beginners is let you freely do a beamflip and allows vault.
it lets you do tons of other things but if you are new it wont even matter or realuze the difference.
ANd AC classic parkour even at vanilla is 10x better than any of the sequels in terms of precision and player expression