My biggest question now is, how can they possibly make a movie called the Multiverse of Madness without a multiverse if everything is a single time line?
Finally found somebody else that gets it. It all makes zero sense. It’s impossible that the Avengers are always supposed to be doing what they do, but Loki is not. If the Avengers always go back to the battle of New York in 2012 then everything that we saw take place in Endgame always happens. The only explanation they could give is that every other time Loki chooses to not pick up the tesseract. Which would of course be absurd. The Avengers we know, and have followed should have experienced what we saw in Endgame in the original Avengers film. Cap Vs Cap, Hail Hydra, Tony collapsing, Hulk stairs, Loki escaping, etc... etc... Show is a disaster.
I couldn't finish episode 1 because it was just so bad & cringe. Like wtf? So, the Spider-verse is dead now? Free will is gone? You're punished for events that happen that are out of your control? Who the heck wrote this show?
Yeah getting rid of free will is a big mistake. One of my favorite shows did the same stupid mistake in the last season by saying everything played out as planned so nothing the main characters did was their own choice
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor it wasn’t we only saw one order of events play out. When the multiverse is reinstated by the end we’ll get to see how different actions will produce different results. After we got no way home, multiverse of madness and what if coming up. You guys are way to hung up over this plot point honestly.
@@jackthenarrator4735 Not what I said but the logical conclusion is that this argument is irrelevant if time repeats in the MCU and the multiverse will be reinstated. All choices will be made in the need after all. You guys just stop thinking about the consequences after a while for some reason.
The only way this is revived, and it's giving a huge leniency and takes some hope..... But Loki realizes that the removal of Free Will is actually inherently evil, and he destroy's the "Time Keepers" and restores the "chaotic timelines" determined by free will.
@@LegacyComics100 well not,he must went back to the quantum machine..instead of the park bench.... and is in that momentt i realize how new mcu wirters dont give a damm about details...
It's not that there's no free will; The TVA only steps in to stop time travellers from changing the past, creating new timelines. The Avengers returned to the past to return the stones, putting history back on course, but Loki's escape would create another timeline. Whether or not the conflicts of the MCU really matter is a philosophical question of the nature of free will. That said, I agree with everything else.
But they still changed the timeline. 2014 Thanos left his time, and him and his entire army were snapped out of existence. So now they can't exist to do what they did from 2014 onward.
@@SefniAsheforr but that’s just it they did do what they were suppose to do which was get snapped away when u change the past that past becomes the present that old future is the past with a new future to be written which makes a new time line
Presuming that there’s a multi verse in no way home you’d think the creators of Loki would know about it or think about it for a second. Because now if there is a multi verse in no way home then people are gonna blame the fact that it doesn’t make sense on the writers of Spider-Man
I was looking over my analytics when I saw your video was the one that was suggesting my own video the most. It's funny, we both say a lot of the same points, and even came to the idea of similar video titles as well it seems. First time seeing your channel, but yes, I agree with you 100% (obviously since we made similar videos). Oh, and since you mentioned Doctor Who, this is just a wild guess, but I would imagine we have similar thoughts on The Timeless Child as well.
I don’t even watch the MCU but I enjoyed this video and you explained everything perfectly So good in fact I’m even pissed off at this show for ruining movies that I’ve never even seen before... Subscribed
One major blessing in disguise is that these writers BLATANTLY forgot that Multiple Universes were mentioned in Dr. Strange, judging by that this time break at the end of the show happened canonically after the first Avengers film I'm glad these writers forgot that.
I just consider Loki a spin of series, you don't have to consider it canon. I just consider from iron man 1 to end game the entire story and that is it!
The MCU makes no sense whatsoever. They lost track just as much as DC did. But at the VERY least, DC made every show and movie canon, so their multiverse makes sense. This does not.
DID u notice the other reason its bad. its another piece of entertainment made by ppl that make things that.. winks at its self. trying tell the audience, look at me, look at me, im making this. its bad for the same reason rob zombies Halloween 2 is bad. see the pattern?
Endgame is pretty sh*t for the most part. And the Wandavision finale does suck, but only some parts in my opinion. I still really like that show. Just the Ralph Bohner nonsense is what kills it for me. I feel like Marvel is purposely doing stupid things just to tease us and annoy us.
I love this. I'm not even a huge fan of the MCU and everything you said makes sense. The stones being "colorful paperclips" at this point is dumb and not funny. Just messed up. Black Widow and Iron Man didn't even have to die. The time heist itself didn't have to happen. And everything that's part of this universe is just pointless now. Please tell me you're reviewing Black Widow. I'd love to hear your opinions in it. Also, if there's only one timeline and can't be another, what in heck name is the point of all these different time traveling setups in future movies then, if they apparently can't exist at the same time? 😓 I just... sigh 😒 whatever I guess.
Considering everything he said is a flat out lie, no. Everything he said does not make sense. “The stones being ‘colorful paperclips” at this point is dumb and not funny.” Except it isn’t dumb. Infinity Stones don’t work outside their respective universe. And how is introducing a threat that eclipses the previous one in danger a bad thing? Also, it’s paperweights, not paperclips. Even on a surface level, you’re an idiot. “Black Widow and Iron Man didn’t even have to die.” Not sure where, other than your ass, you’re getting this from. “The time heist itself didn’t have to happen.” It quite literally did. Again, why are you making shit up? “And everything that’s been part of this universe is just pointless now.” That literally couldn’t be less true. Even everything you’ve said prior to that doesn’t back this lie up.
“Also, if there’s only one timeline and can’t be another, what in heck name is the point of all these different time traveling setups in future movies then, if they apparently can’t exist at the same time?” Holy SHIT, your brain does not work.
@@RM-cn8pw Firstly, you don't have be so nasty. If you didn't like what I said, all you had to say was "I disagree" or something. Not get all foul mouth about it and insult me. And secondly, my brain works PERFECTLY fine. What I said about the video was simply my opinion and I'm entitled to it. And just because you don't like it, doesn't mean my brain doesn't work or I'm dumb for not liking the show itself. It's obvious you enjoy the show and will defend it to the ends of time, and that's fine. But I don't like the show at all, and that's fine too. So, simply put, we agree to disagree and there's nothing wrong with that either.
No it’s doesn’t. In fact it should have been that loki want to get revenge on the tva bc they force him to let her die and that asgard is destroyed bc of them
It literally doesn't. Why should Loki believe a word the TVA said? Why would he let himself be controlled by these losers? This is Avengers Loki, not Infinity War Loki.
6:25 Are you serious ? Brother that line didn't literally meant that. It had a deeper meaning that you have understand yourself after thinking about it several times. It didn't literally meant he was "pretending"
I'm curious to see how timelines are going to be changed since there's going to be a spider-verse movie and a new Doctor Strange movie, hopefully Loki can provide more episodes with more answers.
@@JayRedGearyeah but he sounded like he was sweating magma or some shit like it was only the first plus it’s his opinion and I know that goes against the commenter and my reply’s point but in this case a bunch of more people love this show and people who find it “shit” say that people of the same opinion are “master minds“ or “people who keep it real” if anything everything doesn’t matter to be good for all and it doesn’t matter to be the best when someone’s always going to disagree in a respectful way in their opinions or treat their opinions like facts that in my eye it’s why try when nothing anyone does is ever perfect to anyone but that’s my eye, and my eye doesn’t matter when there are millions of other eyes out there and we all have beliefs of someone greater than human so what’s the point of perfection when time run’s out but don’t think much of it, it made me wonder. “True Heaven”
Imagine we get a garbage sequal of the LOTR trilogy in which we're introduced to a mysterious hidden village somewhere in middle earth where the little girls literally use Sauron's ring in their freaking doll house. Just imagine how infuriating that would be, that was how much infuriating it was to see that the infinity stones are just mere paperweights in the TVA and the whole infinity saga and Thanos war was just a joke.
They literally did this the comics multiple times its was eventually gonna come to the big screen and I bursted out laughing when it happened because I knew people were gonna be mad about this but this is marvel knowledge.
Fatal Game:
Take a shot every time he says “taken out of time, and KILLED”
This show turns the whole MCU into an unavoidable scenario. There are no consequences, everything is scripted and nothing matters anymore
Pain
I absolutely hate the idea of the MCU has always been predetermined by a stupid goofy man called Kang and his annoying group of TVA.
My biggest question now is, how can they possibly make a movie called the Multiverse of Madness without a multiverse if everything is a single time line?
loki’s probably going to crack open the multiverse
@@invincible4554 currently looking for the funny.
Finally found somebody else that gets it. It all makes zero sense. It’s impossible that the Avengers are always supposed to be doing what they do, but Loki is not. If the Avengers always go back to the battle of New York in 2012 then everything that we saw take place in Endgame always happens. The only explanation they could give is that every other time Loki chooses to not pick up the tesseract. Which would of course be absurd. The Avengers we know, and have followed should have experienced what we saw in Endgame in the original Avengers film. Cap Vs Cap, Hail Hydra, Tony collapsing, Hulk stairs, Loki escaping, etc... etc... Show is a disaster.
I love this show, and I hate the MCU
"There's about as much issues with this episode as I have strands of f-ckin' hair."
You must have one glorious head of hair, sir.
Haven't had a trim in 7 years mate ahaha
I couldn't finish episode 1 because it was just so bad & cringe. Like wtf? So, the Spider-verse is dead now? Free will is gone? You're punished for events that happen that are out of your control? Who the heck wrote this show?
I’m declaring it non canon if all fans do that they will fix it
Michael Waldron who wrote ‘Rick and Morty.’
Yeah getting rid of free will is a big mistake. One of my favorite shows did the same stupid mistake in the last season by saying everything played out as planned so nothing the main characters did was their own choice
I don't understand the appeal of just removing fre will, it makes the universe so much less interesting and so much more boring
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor it wasn’t we only saw one order of events play out. When the multiverse is reinstated by the end we’ll get to see how different actions will produce different results. After we got no way home, multiverse of madness and what if coming up. You guys are way to hung up over this plot point honestly.
@@reniorjd Oh, I see. Don't ask questions, right? Yes, just consume products and then get ready for next products. Got it.
@@jackthenarrator4735 Not what I said but the logical conclusion is that this argument is irrelevant if time repeats in the MCU and the multiverse will be reinstated. All choices will be made in the need after all. You guys just stop thinking about the consequences after a while for some reason.
I still believe there’s a plot twist involved.
When you realize that No Way Home also makes it so that Loki also ruins the other Spider-Man movies:
🤬🤬🤬
Loki ruins every marvel movie, comic, book, game, show, ect ever made 🤣
Completely agree, this show steamrolls so much of the MCU
Pacing and dialogue sucks tho, didn't enjoy it that much
So you haven’t watched it. Because it literally doesn’t at all.
The only way this is revived, and it's giving a huge leniency and takes some hope.....
But Loki realizes that the removal of Free Will is actually inherently evil, and he destroy's the "Time Keepers" and restores the "chaotic timelines" determined by free will.
hahahahaha, if this video wasn’t made then richie would have been taken out of time and killed
so how steve returned the MIND STONE if that 2012 timeline was melted ...
EXACTLY
Real question: how is old Steve sitting on the bench in endgame, even though he could be in a different timeline?
@@LegacyComics100 well not,he must went back to the quantum machine..instead of the park bench....
and is in that momentt i realize how new mcu wirters dont give a damm about details...
It's not that there's no free will; The TVA only steps in to stop time travellers from changing the past, creating new timelines. The Avengers returned to the past to return the stones, putting history back on course, but Loki's escape would create another timeline. Whether or not the conflicts of the MCU really matter is a philosophical question of the nature of free will. That said, I agree with everything else.
But they still changed the timeline. 2014 Thanos left his time, and him and his entire army were snapped out of existence. So now they can't exist to do what they did from 2014 onward.
Starved Horror True.
@@SefniAsheforr but that’s just it they did do what they were suppose to do which was get snapped away when u change the past that past becomes the present that old future is the past with a new future to be written which makes a new time line
Presuming that there’s a multi verse in no way home you’d think the creators of Loki would know about it or think about it for a second. Because now if there is a multi verse in no way home then people are gonna blame the fact that it doesn’t make sense on the writers of Spider-Man
I was looking over my analytics when I saw your video was the one that was suggesting my own video the most. It's funny, we both say a lot of the same points, and even came to the idea of similar video titles as well it seems. First time seeing your channel, but yes, I agree with you 100% (obviously since we made similar videos). Oh, and since you mentioned Doctor Who, this is just a wild guess, but I would imagine we have similar thoughts on The Timeless Child as well.
Funny coincidence that! And if you think the timeless children is one of the worst things ever made then we absolutely agree ;)
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor lol, yep, the only way to fix it is to just retcon 13 and her run out of canon entirely.
I don’t even watch the MCU but I enjoyed this video and you explained everything perfectly
So good in fact I’m even pissed off at this show for ruining movies that I’ve never even seen before...
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Dude wasnt a agent HES A DESK JOCKEY. He even says hes only been at the desk his whole life bro
finally someone gets it. not only did they manage to ruin their image by making new shit shows they also managed to ruin the whole mcu
This is like what if Harry Potter had woken up from a dream at the end of deathly hollows
Northern rage! Love it.
But I know what I'm not watching.
Ruined in one episode? Try about 20. These tv shows suck
One major blessing in disguise is that these writers BLATANTLY forgot that Multiple Universes were mentioned in Dr. Strange, judging by that this time break at the end of the show happened canonically after the first Avengers film
I'm glad these writers forgot that.
Loki itself was great (personally). For the mcu? HELL NAW!!!!!
i really like ur reaction video had me laughin a lot and also dissapointed at loki,but ur accent and cursing made it so funny
Thank you :)
This dhow is simply not canon.
I just consider Loki a spin of series, you don't have to consider it canon. I just consider from iron man 1 to end game the entire story and that is it!
Canon is canon mate, doesn't matter what you consider to be canon or not I'm afraid
The MCU makes no sense whatsoever. They lost track just as much as DC did. But at the VERY least, DC made every show and movie canon, so their multiverse makes sense. This does not.
add this commment, its like in INDIANA JONES V the ark of the covenant will be turned into a tv dining table
This is what happens when series is playing with time and someone just can´t understand it 🤦♂️
DID u notice the other reason its bad. its another piece of entertainment made by ppl that make things that.. winks at its self. trying tell the audience, look at me, look at me, im making this. its bad for the same reason rob zombies Halloween 2 is bad. see the pattern?
Imagining a Richie Review on Rob Zombie’s Halloween 2
This show ruined Marvel, ruined Loki one of my favourite characters from one of my favourite franchises! 🤢🤮
just wanted to see what happened to the loki that grabbed the teseract and after 40 minutes of the first episode i just left mad
Endgame is pretty sh*t for the most part. And the Wandavision finale does suck, but only some parts in my opinion. I still really like that show. Just the Ralph Bohner nonsense is what kills it for me. I feel like Marvel is purposely doing stupid things just to tease us and annoy us.
I was loving wandavision until that last episode, like it had its problems beforehand but my god that finale
I love this. I'm not even a huge fan of the MCU and everything you said makes sense. The stones being "colorful paperclips" at this point is dumb and not funny. Just messed up. Black Widow and Iron Man didn't even have to die. The time heist itself didn't have to happen. And everything that's part of this universe is just pointless now. Please tell me you're reviewing Black Widow. I'd love to hear your opinions in it. Also, if there's only one timeline and can't be another, what in heck name is the point of all these different time traveling setups in future movies then, if they apparently can't exist at the same time? 😓 I just... sigh 😒 whatever I guess.
I don't know if I'm reviewing black widow tbh but thx for the praise :)
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor You're welcome. And no prob, I understand. 😊
Considering everything he said is a flat out lie, no. Everything he said does not make sense.
“The stones being ‘colorful paperclips” at this point is dumb and not funny.”
Except it isn’t dumb. Infinity Stones don’t work outside their respective universe. And how is introducing a threat that eclipses the previous one in danger a bad thing?
Also, it’s paperweights, not paperclips. Even on a surface level, you’re an idiot.
“Black Widow and Iron Man didn’t even have to die.”
Not sure where, other than your ass, you’re getting this from.
“The time heist itself didn’t have to happen.”
It quite literally did. Again, why are you making shit up?
“And everything that’s been part of this universe is just pointless now.”
That literally couldn’t be less true. Even everything you’ve said prior to that doesn’t back this lie up.
“Also, if there’s only one timeline and can’t be another, what in heck name is the point of all these different time traveling setups in future movies then, if they apparently can’t exist at the same time?”
Holy SHIT, your brain does not work.
@@RM-cn8pw Firstly, you don't have be so nasty. If you didn't like what I said, all you had to say was "I disagree" or something. Not get all foul mouth about it and insult me. And secondly, my brain works PERFECTLY fine. What I said about the video was simply my opinion and I'm entitled to it. And just because you don't like it, doesn't mean my brain doesn't work or I'm dumb for not liking the show itself. It's obvious you enjoy the show and will defend it to the ends of time, and that's fine. But I don't like the show at all, and that's fine too. So, simply put, we agree to disagree and there's nothing wrong with that either.
Thansk for keeping shit real
For me, the true MCU has ended after Endgame and everything after Endgame is just a cheap non-canon fantasy.
Oooooooooh them dislikes are gonna hit you hard.
Literally shitting and crying rn
I'm creating multiple accounts and liking this video and making sure efap promotes it
You do realize him not being evil makes sense right
No it’s doesn’t. In fact it should have been that loki want to get revenge on the tva bc they force him to let her die and that asgard is destroyed bc of them
It literally doesn't. Why should Loki believe a word the TVA said? Why would he let himself be controlled by these losers? This is Avengers Loki, not Infinity War Loki.
My guy is complaining about the fact that fictional characters don't have free will in movies and make choices that are prewritten by the filmmakers 💀
And you clearly don't understand writing
Yeah no shit they write it. But it makes the worldbuilding pointless. Nothing any of the characters did meant anything.
All the character development means nothing because space lizards lol
Chill out. We’re in the first two episodes - have you guys not heard of plot twists?
@@sylvierosehaywood9881
No matter what changes in the future, Loki has ruined the MCU.
Did loki copy discord from my little pony? In the idw comics cosmos arc discord wiped everyones memories of cosmos and prented to be evil
I agree the last episode didn’t make any sense
love the rant 100 agree
6:25 Are you serious ? Brother that line didn't literally meant that. It had a deeper meaning that you have understand yourself after thinking about it several times. It didn't literally meant he was "pretending"
Loki Is a jOkE
As if MCU is so good
It can be good.... On the rare occasion
As if DC was ever good with their movies 🤷♂️ what’s the difference when everything’s an illusion of perspective
Jeez dude you are really pissed
I'm curious to see how timelines are going to be changed since there's going to be a spider-verse movie and a new Doctor Strange movie, hopefully Loki can provide more episodes with more answers.
Maybe by the end of the show other timelines will be created and it will lead into spiderman and doctor strange?
That's the whole point of this show. To set a baseline for future MCU multiverse movies and time travel stuff
We get it.
They got the stones from various varients they caught. It literally makes sense. Your getting mad for no reason bro. Think mark think
Calm down it’s a TV show
TV shows can be criticized.
@@JayRedGearyeah but he sounded like he was sweating magma or some shit like it was only the first plus it’s his opinion and I know that goes against the commenter and my reply’s point but in this case a bunch of more people love this show and people who find it “shit” say that people of the same opinion are “master minds“ or “people who keep it real” if anything everything doesn’t matter to be good for all and it doesn’t matter to be the best when someone’s always going to disagree in a respectful way in their opinions or treat their opinions like facts that in my eye it’s why try when nothing anyone does is ever perfect to anyone but that’s my eye, and my eye doesn’t matter when there are millions of other eyes out there and we all have beliefs of someone greater than human so what’s the point of perfection when time run’s out but don’t think much of it, it made me wonder. “True Heaven”
Imagine we get a garbage sequal of the LOTR trilogy in which we're introduced to a mysterious hidden village somewhere in middle earth where the little girls literally use Sauron's ring in their freaking doll house. Just imagine how infuriating that would be, that was how much infuriating it was to see that the infinity stones are just mere paperweights in the TVA and the whole infinity saga and Thanos war was just a joke.
Translation: You didn’t watch, let alone understand the episode.
They literally did this the comics multiple times its was eventually gonna come to the big screen and I bursted out laughing when it happened because I knew people were gonna be mad about this but this is marvel knowledge.
Should’ve waited till the show ends. This video might get dated
I'm keeping optimistic the video will age well because the Disney plus shows are having a pattern of having the last episode be offensively awful
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor hmm sounds like wrong
If there going to have a female Loki could she be a little attractive. They specifically picked a manly woman to play the part 😅