This Ki-Adi-Mundi Nonsense is Ridiculous - Star Wars Explained Weekly Q&A
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Today we are, unfortunately, talking about all the Ki-Adi-Mundi drama that got stirred up this past week. And we're also answering a couple fun questions.
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Spoiler: Ki-Adi-Mundi dies in The Acolyte and his younger doppelganger Ki-Adi-Tuesday takes his place.
Explains why he was such a see-you-next-Tuesday to the Geonosians
Well thanks a lot! *humph *
Ki-Adi's Sundi died doing what he loved, being the voice of doubt in events embroiled in the obvious. His son, Ki-Adi-Mundi takes after him so strongly.
LMFAO
I believe it's spelled Ki-Adi-Toosdi if I remember correctly.
The only important part about Ki-Adi-Mundi's birthday, is wether or not he was born on a Ki-Adi-Monday!
that's gonna be my headcanon until otherwise proven wrong
Mine too! 😂
🥁
Ohhhhhhhh brother this guy stinks!
Thank you for this.
Qui-Gon: "The Sith are back!"
Ki-Adi-Mundi: "Nuh uh."
Qui-Gon: "Tf you mean nuh uh?! I literally fought one a few hours ago!"
🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
"You fought someone trained in the Dark Side who knows how to use a lightsaber. There are thousands of other Force cults or fallen Jedi that could explain this more reasonably before we jump to the Sith returning after 1000 years of silence."
@@C.Kirby1138 The more I think about it, the more it 2000% makes sense that Mundi was high on copium and couldn't come to terms with the fact that the Sith were indeed back, it's tragic but poetic that he died from his own hubris during Order 66. I never initially had a problem with him coming back for this show but now that I've had a few days to let it stew in my mind, it does make a lotta sense. Leslye Headland knows what she's doing.
"Ah, yes... 'Reapers'."
@@RiksGamingChannelshe absolutely doesn't
“People have difficulty with subjectivity in Star Wars” woof, so true. Makes me think that if the original trilogy came out today people would say “uh, Darth Vader can’t be Luke’s father, Obi-Wan and Owen said his dad’s dead!”
It's canon! They said it! Lucas is ruining Star Wars!
The people who are like “THEY MADE THE FORCE FEMALE AND A THREAD” and can’t grasp that’s it’s another interpretation of the force from a different force believing religious order is just it’d be funny if it weren’t so sad
The point about Vader is actually what ended up happening, that's why Yoda had to tell luke in the next film that Vader is Lukes father, so that a trusted figure tells him rather than people thinking it was a deception from Vader.
@@e115mastery What gets me most is that people still can't get over "Somehow Palpatin returned" when the biggest Retcon of movie history got explained away with "from a certain point of view".
That is EXACTLY what would happen. Then they would yell all day long about how it is George Lucas' fault they are being *ssholes.
I quickly dismissed the notion that it was Ki-Adi Mundi, until he opened his gob and spoke, using his unique force power of being COMPLETELY wrong. I was like, “Oh! It is him”.😐
Seems like the Jedi progress up to becoming members on the council, similarly to how politicians move into leadership roles.🧐
He's the anti-Cassandra: everything he says is wrong, and everyone believes him 😂
Ki-Adi Mundi: What if the quote "Everything you just said was wrong" was a person.
Lol
If Mundi were a cartoon character, he'd be that dog sitting in the room full of fire saying, "This is fine". 😅
I think Rian Johnson already provided us the perfect gif for responding to people who have an unhealthy attachment to canon:
Luke: "THE SACRED JEDI TEXTS!!!"
Yoda: Read them, have you?
Luke: *frustrated glare*
Wow I’ve never looked at it like that before. I love it! I love legends but I’ll be the first to admit that I haven’t read everything there is to read. I never read the NJO series for one thing. Had one or two of them but never read them.
I really, really love this comparison.
Page turners, they were not.
Joke's on you because in the next movie Rey uses the Jedi texts to literally LEARN EVERYTHING and find Exegol hahahahaha checkmate
Indeed - anyone who follows "sacred" texts literally should be treated with a lot of suspicion because they can't think for themselves.
The Bible, Jewish scripture, Qur'an, US constitution, Bill of Rights fall into this category too.
@@zen1647 Those who blindly follow sacred texts.
I’m so confused how anyone even knew his age, like who saw him in The Acoltye and immediately thought about the 25 year old card game
Literally no one. Someone thought "was he always that old", checked wookiepedia, and then made a massive deal out of a contradiction to a 25 year old card game
Well Mundi was right about one thing. There was a droid attack on the Wookies
I think we are all beginning to doubt this though. Maybe it was a wookie attack on the droids
@@YoFool.1506Grozz from Star Wars Hunters says hi
Indeed, good thing the Jedi redirected resources away from the real threat thanks to him
He’s been overconfident for 100+ years. And they never even mention the Sith.
"Or something worse"
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No before we could say he was ignorant. Now the only explanation is Ki is a complete dumb a**
This is the most likely answer right? If they find a holocron and the dude with the red lightsaber they just say he's just some rogue person corrupted
Then the sith never really returned. It was just this one Jedi that fell, not some massive coverup
I don't understand how people don't get the purpose of Ki-Adi's character. Lucas is pretty on the nose most of the time with his character archetypes. The guy has a big ass head, he is obviously sure of himself and thinks he's right
Ki Adi Mundi:
1) Isn't even sure a jedi trained Mae, Sith aren't mentioned.
2) We don't know fate of the Jedi confronted by Sith - they may all be dead before the end of the series and can't warn Jedi.
3) His birthday was legends.
To be fair, having a different opinion doesn't make you bad. If you want to ignore Legends, fine. A Cerrean birthdate or lifespan can be circumvented because it is pretty DSW. However, DSW did change kybur crystals, and what made them red. So if Darth Smiley is only a splinter faction, or fallen Jedi, or whatever is being said, and NOT Sith, how did he get a red kybur crystal into his lightsaber?
@@Darth_Dad Red is a result of bleeding the crystal that is being a darksider. Its not sith exclusive.
@forrestpenrod2294 Wasn't aware that it was attainable by anyone else. Not saying this is canon by any means, but...
"To make a kyber crystal bleed, a Sith Lord takes a natural kyber crystal (regardless of its color) and corrupts it using the dark side of the Force. This process involves pouring all their hatred and pain into the crystal, which causes it to bleed and change."
@@Darth_Dad The reason bleeding is predominantly performed by Sith is because the Jedi are a specific religion concerning the force and the Sith are an offshoot of the Jedi. Lightsabers are a specific instrument of both. However anyone who embraces the darkside can bleed a kyber crystal but most force users don't utilize kyber in weapons.
Baylan Skoll from Ahsoka isn't a Sith but he bled his saber in his fall from the light.
In the time of The Acolyte the Sith have been presumed extinct for nearly a millennium. When the Jedi see the Sith Lord it would be more logical for them to assume a rogue Jedi with a bled crystal than a Sith.
@forrestpenrod2294 I can't find anything showing orange as a result of bleeding, or about Baylan and Shin bleeding their crystals either. It's that stuff sources somewhere, or your opinion based on something. Not being argumentative by any means, just trying to find something that disproves my own opinion.
The research that I posted, specified Sith Lord, not just a Sith, and a far a I have been aware fallen jedi, darksiders, etc are not considered Sith.
I think the major issues with the fandom are:
1) they go in with expectations (either to hate or love something or expect something to happen a certain way)
2) struggle to separate the objective story and the character’s opinions
3) unable to separate a character’s opinion from the creator’s opinion (Kylo Ren saying let the past die in VIII)
4) struggle to realise that the Star Wars they grew up with was doing the same stuff as the new stuff, they’re just older now so it’s not going to feel the same for THEM
5)often unable to let go of Legends info to allow for new canon
I absolutely agree, especially with point 3. I have been thinking about this along time, and think for a lot of people they have growed beyond it. I feel like that is hard to reconcile, it's like a breakup. You love them, but it doesn't work anymore.
I also with point number 5. "Canon is canon, Legends isn't get over it." That's what I'm tempted to say sometimes. Legends is fine and all but I have moved on now. Why can't the fandom be like that.
I'd be willing to bet that the people mad about Ki-Adi-Mundi's age didn't even know when he was born in legends canon before this week.
That’s easy money.
Species that live a really long time should be special i think - and not too numerous
People are more familiar with that he had multiple wives to try to help save his species or whatever
If they were so long lived, one winders if their species is still endangered
People know a lot more than youd think
Easy money indeed. Remember when they hissed and cried about sounds and fire in space, as if these things hadn't been established in star wars since the very first movie? They are not star wars fans, they're bots sent by their grifter of choice to derail the discourse around this show.
@@DashhunterLP beep boop bop
I guess I'm a bot
Its all in what suspends the disbelief - spaceship explodes and flies like a WW2 airplane
People suspended their disbelief
A small fire in a weirdly shot scene - some people could not suspend their disbelif
But some of those same people are still enjoying the show
Its not always so polarized
@@writingref what a deceivingly lenient way to put it. 🤦🏻
Once again, thank you two so much for being rational, normal people who genuinely have a passion for Star Wars. The grifty, rage bait, culture war nonsense has been a problem for almost a decade now, but it’s probably the worst that it’s ever been presently. I have no idea how you manage to stay so positive with how suffocating everything feels, but we all really appreciate it.
Also, Mundi is totally in the show specifically to explain why he thinks the way he does in TPM. The show really seems to be telegraphing the fact that the Jedi cover up or whitewash whatever is going to happen with Mae’s master.
Or they all die at the end including Osha and Mae with nobody having any clue to what happened and the Sith/Jedi/ Random person with red lightsaber goes on his merry way.
It’s my opinion that there are two camps: Star Wars Fans, and People Who Love Star Wars. Star Wars Fans love A New Hope, The Empire Strikes, and Return of the Jedi (but only until the Ewoks show up and/or the revealing of “the Other”), and everything else sucks, no matter how many times they watch them over and over again. People Who Love Star Wars are the rest of us who get excited over anything new coming out and typically enjoy it. I will admit, however, that “Resitance” is my least favorite. But I will finish it. Eventually.
@@BTLemming *Two* camps of SW fans? C'mon, there are multitudes at this point... And that's a problem, because what SW 'is' is now so vast and ill defined.
And let's not pretend there aren't quality control issues (to put it very politely... ) about the Disney era. They cast a much wider net, produced more content, and that's an issue. People can't just consume everything produced non-critically. That's what corporations want.
I personally think there's a mass lack of perspective, especially in the screeching 'critics', which includes all the grifter culture-warriors. SW has always had quality control issues... I love the OT, and can't stand the prequels, but I acknowledge the OT is also its own mess. People just haven't engaged their critical faculties dispassionately.
Even with all the missteps of the Disney era, we've had some amazing stuff being created - at times some of the best the series has ever had.
I think Acolyte could've done with a few more script revisions, but I'm enjoying it. I - somewhat ironically given this video - really appreciate how it's not connected to any of the current overly entangled continuity. I'm not sure Filoni is really pulling off his grand arc/s (Mando S3 was quite woeful. Ahsoka was--- fine. I'm looking forward to S2, though), so this setting is just a breath of fresh air by comparison.
Lore fetishism has never been my thing, so I don't care about Ki. Canon shifts all the time - that's just a reality, especially with large properties. People just need to roll with it.
Lucas already contradicted lore about Ki-Adi-Mundi. Before ROTS, it was said he was on the Jedi Council without being a master. Then in ROTS, Anakin is upset and says it's never been done before.
Yep! The DK book of TPM made a big deal out of Mundi being the Council's only knight.
@@user-zl9sh9mz6hI still have that book.
All the people complaining about Ki Adi Mundi, remind me of 19 year old me whining that The Phantom Menace made Palpatine a Sith and Obi Wan no longer Owen Lars' brother or a native of Tatooine. It didn't make my life better and I missed out on a lot of great stuff because I wasn't mature enough to let go of trivia.
Thanks for allowing yourself to evolve as a human and recognize the importance of being humble. The biggest lesson to learn from SW is to take our arrogance and shove it deep up our ignorant asses.
What if the show ends with Ki-Adi-Mundi being elevated to the Jedi High Council for presenting a non-Sith explanation for the Acoylte's events while Sol and Vernestra are disgraced/expelled for saying otherwise?
If I'm at a resturant and I see an item on the menu I don't enjoy, at no time would it occur to me to harass the staff or other customers over it.
You madman! 😂
Imagine shitting other patrons for like a dish you don't. Hahaha
From someone who works in a customer facing role, you are in the minority.
Bryan Ward has made some top notch thumbnails for you guys over the years but this is a new favorite for me.
Ki-Adi-Mundi is so confidently wrong all the time. I like to imagine other council members use him as a measuring stick for bets. Always bet against Mundi.
Mundi is just like American politicians---constantly wrong and completely convinced otherwise.
@@user-zl9sh9mz6hthat sound like all politicians our planet buddy you need to learn more
The real Ki-Adi-Mundi date of birth was the friends we made along the way.
It is funny that the interview is from The Hate U Give since I remember a small contingent complaining about the movie not being as good as the book at that time. It is a classic example of not being able to please everyone, so just be proud of the effort you put into what you were able to produce.
The Hate U Give is a really good movie 😢
"I'm going to let a trading card toy from 1999 that had no proper oversight from Lucasfilm dictate the story" -A "Star Wars fan"
its funny that they are like "MY TOY IS CANON" ThE aCoLyTe iS wRoNg
@@chewchillathewookiee3515maybe but that’s lame
@@chewchillathewookiee3515exactly, it's fan canon, until there is official canon. People need to accept the new, actual, official canon
I had a set of Empire Strikes Back movie trading cards in 1980 that had ages for all the characters. If I recall, Luke was 24, Leia was 20, Han was 34, Lando was 36, Chewie was 204, Threepio was 148, Artoo was 65, and Vader was 56. Wish I still had those! 😂
The fact that people are so hung on that card that they vandalized Mundi''s canon page on Wookieepedia speaks to people's insistence, which is so sad.
HA. That beginning got a giggle outta me
"Oh no! This background character no one actually cared about has been given a different backstory than the one I only vaguely remember! Burn Disney to the ground!"
I'll get my pitchfork! 😅
No it's not just the backstory. Disney is bad because they don't pay attention to the canon, and they change everything. Ki Adi Mundi said the Sith were extinct a thousand years. That was not respected. So there for us fans will not respect their story.
@@guileless5205 Just like they said in the video, he was wrong.
@@guileless5205 george lucas did that too, or are you just being selective?
this video literally explains why you're wrong! forget media literacy, people can't even pay attention for more than one tik tok video! @@guileless5205
that intro alone earned the like! 🤣💀
It's been over 10 years now since Disney brought Star Wars, and I feel that's more than enough time to come to terms with that. If you're just going to continue holding that against every series that gets made, then you're just going to make yourself and those around you miserable.
literally! the only people poisoning the well here are the ones pretending like just because a corporation paid for something means it's bad. Andor exists, after all!
in addition, shows like The Boys are paid for by Amazon. and we all know how that show feels about corporations :)
The boys>star wars
You guys just nailed this entire debacle. Especially Mollie mentioning that half the people crying about this had no idea how old he was "supposed to be" are being outraged just because some rage bait youtubers told them to and because they were already ready to jump on anything possible to criticize the creators of this show (for the reasons we all know) and Disney as a whole.
These days, this channel is one of the only places for level-headed takes and genuine discussion about Star Wars. Thank you for all the work you do and keep it up! :)
I agree. Molly and Alex are like the level headed mom and dad of the star wars community for me. SWFT I also love rewatching your videos on the fall of the republic and empire
I grew up watching this channel. It was my gateway to the larger Star Wars mythos and I’ve been very glad with all the lore and analysis.
Once I learn about not so great stuff about fandoms, it made my appreciation Alex and Mollie Damon all the more. They will always be Number One in this fandom for me.
Agreed. I also appreciate Alan, aka @generationtech for his positive approach to review, critique, and analysis of SW material.
@@starwarsfreak4 Glad you like them! :D
It's wild that people have trouble parsing that a character can be wrong about something.
In Episode 1, the Council very strongly denies the existence of the Sith…when Qui-Gon and a padawan are present.
But when we see just 2 members talk, Yoda and Mace not only readily accept the Sith existence, but show they have significant knowledge of it.
They might just simply be shutting down rumors when lower Jedi are present, while not believing a word they’re saying.
Ki-Adi-Mundi has either: A) Always been wrong or B) Has been covering up the truth! Which makes perfect sense considering the Jedi's downfall is about to happen.
You guys are honestly the only channel that reminds me of the good Star Wars has. You guys have the emotional intelligence that so many don't have.
So many others pretend to, to justify their lying or rage bait content, and satisfy
their sense of smug superiority. Those who make up fake retcons or say horrible things about people just doing their job.
Good on you for calling out the racism and gatekeeping towards the cast and writers. I'm not even watching the show, but those writers and actors are just human beings doing their best.
(Sigh) Q&A: If they brought back The Force Unleashed 3, who do you think Starkiller would kill in a Dark Side Ending?
First game was Boba Fett and Obi-Wan, Second game was Han, Chewbacca and Leia. Third game...maybe he kills the Grand Inquisitor, Kanan and Ahsoka, and takes Kylo Ren as an apprentice to fight Rey and Palpatine?
I'll highly recommend Wave Squadron, the Star Wars-specific subchannel from the Blind Wave team. They're not afraid to criticise things they don't particularly like, but they're always constructive, and they are always willing to enjoy things for what they are, rather than dump on things because of what they aren't. They have a really good energy about them.
They are basically on lucasfilms payroll.. but yeah believe what you need to believe 😂
@@V01D72Wow, how immature of you. Someone who doesn’t constantly bash on SW must be on Disney’s pay roll, huh? I feel bad for you
@@V01D72 Cool story.
Someone said, "Ki Adi Mundi is the Jay Leno of Star Wars and I couldn't agree more!"
Care to elaborate?
@@notabot-br1lqWell, Jay Leno is a dolt, so....
@@user-zl9sh9mz6h what makes him that? Care to elaborate?
Staying off social media is a must when watching any new Star Wars content at this point. The recent “controversies” have been so ridiculous
Truth
Not surprised people are complaining about yet another trivial footnote in Star Wars lore. Been this way since '83 going to be this way in 2053. I'll continue not engaging with absurd online "controversy" and just watch the shows judging for myself
A lot of folks really don't understand the concept of 'unreliable narrator', despite how common a storytelling trope it is.
that intro was great lmao
Mollie's dentist watching this: now why am I in it? 😠
The only thing I care about him is if he still has a harem. I don’t care if he’s a few hundred year old or 60 by the time he died.
I'm bracing for the inevitable uproar around Vernestra's light whip after we get a full look of it in an episode. Even though it's a cool idea and has been in the books since Legends, including the sacred Darth Bane books. 🤦♀️
I personally hated the whole lightwhip thing in legends. But I'm not gonna go bash anyone for liking it once it appears.
Thank you for bringing up Ben's pov. It drives me crazy when the Menace says Luke tried to kill Ben.....NO HE DIDNT
that's especially frustrating when you see haters who say "My LuKe WoUlD nEvEr Do ThAt!" but actually chose to believe that Luke did do that eventhough the movie tells them otherwise.
I prefer the novelization of Last Jedi
The show is only halfway, and I'm already tired of people talking about it.
I am so tired of everything either having to be THE GREATEST THING OF ALL TIME or AN IRREDEEMABLE ATROCITY, especially when the thing itself is just kind of average.
This age of hyperbole must end before all media literacy has gone extinct.
I wish it would but unfortunately with how media keeps jumping further into clickbait rage articles it's only gonna get worse.
This is the exact reason I'm refusing to watch Acolyte until it's over and the drama has died down a little.
People need to learn its okay for shows to just be okay and not for them. So many people want to frame everything as the worst thing since cancer
@@tomhur1 Same, it's part of the reason why I'm dropping it until the season is done.
Well said
Amandla’s career began with people saying Rue being black (as she was in the book, but reading is hard) made them feel less sad about her death in Hunger Games, so she’s been putting up with this kind of nonsense for a long time now.
Honestly thank you both for being a oostive light in the star wars community. Its really sucks liking star wars at times.
People have no tolerance for unreliable narrators, subtext, or even the patience to let a serial television show tell its whole story before judging it.
Can you believe people think that because the new witches see the Force as a thread, that means Leslye Headland is attempting to retcon *what the Force is* rather than introducing a new group with a new perspective?
I think the only way the jedi ignore the villain being a sith is if the apprentice or “master” is a former Jedi. They have made it clear they don’t want that to get out. So they don’t trace it back to the true sith master, maybe even learn of the rule of 2 but only because they think the apprentice and acolyte are the master and apprentice.
I think another thing that people over look is that the Jedi openly lie even conspire in the Prequel trilogy, even if by omission, when Yoda rebukes Mace for even suggesting they tell the Chancellor about their force sight being blocked or clouded, which is reinforced in The Acolyte when that green Jedi master conspires to keep the murder of a Jedi master quiet, because of "Political enemies". That level of denial can only be achieved by carefully cultivating an environment by influential Jedi, Yoda, Ki, etc. So far I'm enjoying the show and the mystery, which I personally don't even believe this is a Sith.
I mean Jedi lying about things for their own reasons goes all the way back to the Original Trilogy with Obi-wan telling Luke that Vader killed his dad.
@@jueljohnson41Yep! When I was a ten-year-old in 1980, and I heard that Obi-Wan had lied to Luke, I was furious. I never trusted the Jedi again. From then on, I saw them as flawed people who are capable of being devious.
How about in light of the Ki-Adi-Mundi arguments, a video covering all of the continuity discrepancies in Legends. Stuff like how Luke could swim in Mind's Eye but couldn't in the comics, how Evan Piell died in Clone Wars yet still survived by Coruscant Nights, or the backstories of Boba Fett.
The people complaining about the birthday of a character who had 5 minutes of screen time across 3 movies are the same people that drove George Lucas to sell Star Wars to Disney. Don’t let them fool you, they aren’t George Lucas fanboys
George Lukas are artistically bankrupt and 5 billion pushed him out. I don’t think he was so think skinned to be worried about toxic fans on his million dollar ranch.
Thank you guys for being your genuine selves and not hate posters. I'm genuinely shocked at the so called fans and the way they've been acting. It's so wild. If you have genuine good faith problems with the show, then that's cool! But, bad faith takes have taken hold and it's insane.
I mean goodness gracious watch the whole show first and then make a final judgement. We're only half way through.
You know it's stupid when even haters of the show are calling people out for this nonsense
Which haters?
The haters themselves are full of nonsense. Not the people who dislike the show; the people who go into the show hating it no matter what.
I’m in the camp that Ki-Adi-Mundi’s age doesn’t matter. I always thought his age was on par with Wookiee’s anyway and he doesn’t explicitly know there’s a Sith, just a splinter faction of Dark Jedi. Saying this as a D1 hater of The Acolyte.
When it comes to books, TV, Movies and other media,
What exactly is the difference between a so called ‘Hater’ compared to someone who has legitimate objective criticism?
What is a non-hater?, is it a blind sheep that doesn’t question anything?
@@Kenxstudios”objective criticism”? There’s your problem. You think taste is objective
i've never been more ashamed of this fandom
It’s refreshing to hear people who get how stories work and to allow it to play out.
So fun fact: The Acolyte is being review bombed and its being born out that its not based on merit (and is also done by idiots) since the 2008 movie Acolyte has had its RT rating drop from 42% to 23% since the Acolyte came out.
This channel is a ray of sunlight in a pitch dark room. Thanks for the positivity and sanity you bring to this mostly batshit insane fandom
Does Ki-Adi still have a bunch of wives and kids he doesn’t care about? That’s the important character bit! Ki-Adi-Mundi is trash
Do male Cereans have a lifespan twice as long as females? Given the low ratio of males being born, living longer gives them longer to “sow the seeds” as it were. Maybe Ki-Adi Mundi gets to return home periodically to “do his part” as per some kind of arrangement with the Jedi Council or something. I’m sorry I just had the “I’m doing my part” montage from starship troopers flash through my head as I was typing that 😂
No. He did actually care about them and their deaths was a struggle for him. He just was able to handle it far better than Anakin
No, because the only reason that was done was because somebody wrote him as being married in a book around the time TPM released. When AOTC released and revealed the no attachments rule, a retcon was done to give him a special case rather than just disregarding the book that caused the discrepancy in the first place.
As a result, in the current rebooted canon Ki-Adi-Mundi is not such an exception and is now probably closer to the way Lucas intended.
It’s exhausting being an open minded Star Wars fan sometimes lol
...Yeah. It is. When you're trying to do work or are thinking of listening to music, stupid controversies happen that clog your feed.
I really hope one day this vicious cycle can end.
I want Leslye to direct a Kotor Show
Yeah I guess it can be hard to be open-minded not just in Star Wars but in fandoms or life in general.
But the ones who continue this path and can still be happy are the people I respect and hope would keep on going.
@@MysticTrollI'd be down for an Old Republic era show, but only KotoR works well as a video game story.
@@RayOfTruth Sure I'd be down either way
The party hats!!
Alex's t-shirt is tighter than this review
I so appreciate you both being rational and decent people! It's so refreshing to listen to people that are respectful and open-minded!
Thank you Alex and Mollie for truly being a shining light in the Star Wars community, it would honestly be so much harder to be a part of this community without the two of you being a guiding light for positivity and calling out the bigotry and toxicity from the people who just want to spread hate. Thank you both of you for being amazing and I love every single one of your videos, keep up the amazing work, we love you!
I saw a lot of discourse about "The show had a $180 million budget, and Kelnacca was killed off screen without showing the fight?" Or something to that effect. My thought was, we've already had a flashback episode. I bet they will circle back around to Kelnacca's death at some point in the next couple of episodes.
Thank you for saying what you did about Ki-Adi-Mundi. People really are making mountains out of molehills on this one and need to chill out. The last episode was my favorite so far and I am now hooked to find out what happens next.
My reasonably minded friend has told me he won’t watch the Acolyte after reading it breaks canon. I explained it was literally just Ki Adi Mundi’s birthday and he asked me if that was all it was and how he’d only read the headlines. Crazy how misinformation spreads
There's always nonsense in the fandom. I'm just tuning it out, at tgis point.
We’ll time to watch old Pixar movies to chill.
Well time to play Kotor and Swtor again
I tune it out and enjoy most SW shows or Marvel shows and movies that get bombed but seeing the fanbase get tired of those people and actually respond to them has been cathartic.
My god its so great that u are so wholesome and respectful talking about Star Wars. Sometimes I really want to distant myself from this community when all I want is to read the new books, watch the shows etc (weather I like them or not). Thank u for ur healthy mindset!
For any mystery so far people have called it lazy writing no it's an incomplete mystery you are free to judge it when we have the full story
THANK YOU. Good GOD
It's why I refuse to give it a rating. I'll go onto IMDB and rate it when the whole story has been revealed.
THE SADNESS IN ALEX’S VOICE AT 0:04 😭
Well said. I’m glad you guys talked about the toxicity surrounding this series, and Star Wars as a whole. As a lifelong fan it makes me so sad to see people get so hateful about something that’s supposed to be fun.
Appreciate your positivity amongst all the negativity from the Acolyte!
Y’all are honestly such a bright, positive light in the Star Wars community. Thank you so much for all the positivity you bring to this fandom!
It's like every week this fandom invents drama. These have been some really exhausting and cynical weeks since this show started.
why is it the fans fault that this is the case? the show is objectively bad with poor storylines and characters. trying to get into this show is like trying to like getting kicked in the shins.
I need you to turn the first 10 seconds of this into a Short/Tiktok. Such a good skit!
Thank GOD for you all, Heavy Spoilers, and Screen Crush being the only sensible channels on this show
Yes! Agreed New Rockstars is nice too
Lots of good channels standing out from all the noise. See also Kyle Katarn, Wave Squadron.
Force Center, Lightspeed and Holonet Marauders
Star Wars Meg
Really appreciate all of the recommendations for other sane channels
Ngl. The bit at the beginning really caught me off guard, which made it pure comedy gold.
Nobody talks about what happened at the end of Phase 2. (Spoiler) The Jedi simply concealed what happened. They made an arrangement that they will never talk about what happened on Dalna. 100 years later (in Mission to Disaster which takes place on Dalna), nobody knows about the Battle.
The Jedi can do this again. Vernestra talks about the Senate and the political "enemies" all the time.
And wait, they do this in the Attack of the Clones too, after Obi-Wan contacts Mace and Yoda from Kamino. They talk about they should inform the Senate, but if they do, it will have a negative effect on them. So they don't inform them.
It almost the same here. Its a Jedi business, nothing the Senate has to worry about.
“Maybe I will at the end of the day go, I don’t like that Ki-Adi-Mundi was in this. But, to jump to conclusions based on absolutely nothing, is wild to me” SPILL ALEX! Love y’all, loved this video and conversation 🤍✨
I'm so sad about this whole stupid hate on internet, I wanna cry 😭 I love SW so much and also like acolyte and they are destroying just everything. You are one of the last content creators who stayed positive, love your videos and listen to your podcasts on Spotify. Pls never quit your work. Much love ❤ and thank you.
I also really highly recommend ForceCenter Podcast. Generation Tech is doing an ok job right now too. But it's pretty dumb out there otherwise :)
@@heathrezabek thanks, I know Generation Tech, he is also very possitive, Corey and Justin from tapcaf transmissions as well, despite different views of some things. You know, it's not about critisism, but the way how you do it, and how you engage others with different opinions. This what happens right now, is just awful. Thanks for your recommendations, will check the podcast. Have nice weekend 🤗
"There are more of us, Poe. There are more of us." 🥺🫂🫂🫂
@@heathrezabek the podcast is really great 🤗
@@joannascheer5835 Yay! Glad you discovered ForceCenter! They've been so wonderful for so long... If there are any shows or movies in the past that you loved but were bummed at the hate for, look up their eps on them and rejoice. ^_^
Honestly first the fire, then the force witches, now Mundi’s new birth date? Geez this complaint is getting awful.
Welcome to Star wars...
lol so you don't see a problem with so many contrivances in a multi million dollar show..
Feels like it’s an attempt to justify the backlash it got before it was even out
How is it not justified ? especially with Ki-Adi Mundi, if they did some research, they'd see the dates don't corelate and could replace him with someone else who fit the timeline.
@@s7robin105 For you to even propose that you have to establish that the show doesn't deserve the criticism to begin with. Can you do that or are you just defending it for the sake of defending it?
Its insane to me that a goober like Ki Adi Mundi is the hill that so many people are dying on, that character is satire for the pretentious jedi
At the 13:57 mark, I believe you are correct on your assumption. Master Vernestra Rwoh already wants to keep this a secret from The Jedi high Council, for some particular reason that is not been disclosed yet at time of posting this message. Maybe at the end of the series we will find out why. According to her in episode four she says that their judgment is clouded. I think this is the dark side of the force starting to cloud the Jedi judgment. And I think the high Council will sense this and this is when they will go into their “dogmatic view of the force” will be the beginning of the end of the Jedi. I think this is what this series is setting up for us. Showing us exactly when the shroud of the dark side had fallen over the Jedi. Remember, this is at the end of The Republic ear of the Jedi Order.
My entire childhood revolved around Ki-Adi-Mundi's birth date. Its the only Star Wars fact I ever cared about.
The rapid reaction clickbait nature of Star Wars coverage from a lot of outlets is fundamentally inappropriate for this kind of storytelling. Thank you so much for having the patience and positive attitude to recognize that the story is incomplete and thus we can't make any substantiated judgements on the story until it's fully been told.
I love Ki-Adi-Mundi being there. It creates a parallel between his line in Episode 1 and Tarkin calling the Jedi a myth in Episode 4. Mundi literally seeing a Sith and still repeating the official party line that they are extinct despite clear evidence to the contrary feels very prequel Jedi to me.
Ki-Adi-Mundi's line about the Sith is contradicted in the movie itself. Somehow Yoda knew about the Rule of Two which implies that some rumors of the Sith still existing were floating around the galaxy.
Also Ki-Adi-Mundi is wrong about a lot of things. Keep in mind he also basically accused Yoda of going senile when he started communing with Qui-Gon.
I had to pause for a solid minute because the perfect execution of the first 8 seconds broke me. I was dying of laughter.
My only disappointment with Ki-Adi-Mundi's appearance is that he didn't have a luscious head of hair like that one comic
The whole point of the prequels was that the jedi were arrogant and ignorant. They literally let the sith rise to the ultimate power right under their noses.
I have never understood the movie and show bashing. I have been a fan since 1977. When there's so much material already done, there's going to be mistakes. It's not the end of the world.
In Legends, Qui-Gon's apprentice, Xanatos, prior to taking on Obi-Wan as an apprentice, fell to the dark side and carried a red lightsaber as well. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan ended up facing off against him as well but they didn't report back saying "we found a Sith." Its so funny people bring up legends lore for a topps card and cd nobody watched and ignore that book
That intro was perfect
Ki-Adi-Mundi was the first grifter in Star Wars that blatantly spread misinformation.
What about the droid attack on the wookies?
Daughter: Why do so many people hate the new star wars shows and movies?
Me: Do you hate the new star wars shows and movies?
Daughter: No
Me: Then why do you care if others hate it?
Like what you like. Don't just follow others.
Thank you guys for being 2 of the most reasonable and rational people talking about Star Wars with soo much passion, especially since the fandom is so incredibly toxic nowadays.
Perhaps the creators should be less toxic when it comes to honest criticism.
Ki-Adi-Mundi is the Dunning-Kruger Effect done in Star Wars
What truly disappoints me about this backlash to something so trivial, is that it shows certain people have not learned a lesson from the what the reaction to Jar Jar Binks did to Ahmed Best. Because of how strong and hateful the reactions were, the actor contemplated suicide.
Despite that dark time in the Star Wars franchise, we are now seeing it again. We are seeing hate and prejudice being directed at another actor purely because they are in Star Wars. It's also no surprise that it's targeted at an actor who is female and a person of colour and is also LGBTQ. Even more reason for hateful and prejudiced bigots to attack Amandla Stenberg.
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
I'm twelve seconds into this video and I just had to say that was a banger of an opening
As Tommy said recently in a Screen Crush video: Enragement leads to engagement which leads to payment.
Always love level headed Star Wars conversations, just people talking about their love of the franchise and what new info could mean or lead to instead of rage and crying like others like to do.
The point of including Ki Adi Mundi’s famous line is to show that the Jedi have become overconfident and complacent. However, it is surprising to see that he might have seen direct evidence of Sith before hearing Qui Gon’s story and yet he still believes they are extinct. Obviously the showrunners want this to be a story point and we can see how it plays out; the people who think canon is already irrevocably broken are, IMO, being too impatient and should wait to see how the remainder of the story plays out.