Practical Solutions for Harley Engine Cooling
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- Working Your Way Down Our Comprehensive List is the Most Practical Way to Cool Down Your Harley For Optimum Performance & Longevity. Start with Low & No Cost Mods First.
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I love listening to you guys. You’re talking facts and truth. Very refreshing appreciate you all.
Glad you like the video!!! Thank you for commenting and for your support! MB
I have a 03 softail with a 107 Zippers Muscle Kit 💪 I run a oil kooler with Mighty Mites my Temps stay at 210 on the oil tank all day long 😀
That is a great Oil Temp! Thank you for commenting! MB
63 National parks. 12 in Alaska. It gets cold enough in Vermont. Yes I do ride year round Church on Christmas New years eve, year found. Have not been in my truck since I got the Trike in 2022. Nothing better. Life is to be experienced.
Yes, One life you have to live it to the fullest!!!! I hope you enjoy many many more miles of riding free! Thank you for commenting! MB
I have a 21 road glide special and notice more heat and a spark knock and no matter what I tune it doesn’t go away. 13000 miles and air filter is overly oily so I have purchased the external breather catch can kit from y’all. Next step is cleaning cylinders and installing the kit I hope this helps. Taking what y’all say $134 is not a bad start.
You may want to check the oil level on your bike with it spitting that much oil it may be over filled. Here is a link to a video on Harley Oil Levels that you may find interesting/helpful as well - ruclips.net/video/anShki_WeL0/видео.html
You may also consider trying a leak down test to check the health of your bike. If it is spitting that much oil it could be over filled with oil or you could have another issue. A leak down test can help you determine if there is a bigger issue. You can see a video on how to do a leak down test at this link - ruclips.net/video/gojpttZQjKk/видео.html
Of course an EBS will be a great addition to the longevity of your bike and will catch any oil carry over. I hope you get to the bottom of the issue and get it resolved!
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Thank you for commenting! MB
Another great video by Kevin and Dwayne. I believe you're quoting a comment I made on the HD Forum LOL....I had a hell of a time getting the engine to cool down. Even after all the mods I did, that y'all recommended starting with the least expensive. Bought the oil dip stick to track the oil temp then remove the right side leg protector (?) so the wind would blow through, deflector wings, tank lift, EBS, air cleaner, nothing seemed to work. Then the oil filter relocation kit, and finally the oil cooler did the trick. This on a 2020 tri-glide. with a Feuling 472 cam kit. Living in the Arizona desert where riding temps regularly exceed 105, one needs to do everything possible to keep this sucker cool. We'll see what happens here in a month or so. when the temps really go up :)
Yes, it was your comment that spurred the video.
Glad you got the temps down, hopefully it is enough for the brutal heat you all get out there. If not, there are still some things you can do...but best for the wallet to only do as much as is needed for your circumstances.
Thanks for the comment, AND the idea for the video. 👍😎👍
KP
My harley runs oil Temps @ 178° to 215° so I hope people know it is possible but I had to do a few things like oil filter re locator, one cooling fin off (Left side) raise the gas tank 1.5 inches and a full stage one with V&H 2 into 1 pipes big sucker air filter and a full stage 2 cam kit 475. That is the full kit wit cam plate, lifters, Adjustable push Rods, high flow oil pump, tappet cuffs, the whole deal
Sounds like you have built your bike how you want it. Thanks for commenting! MB
Does the tank lift throw off your fuel gauge?
I have a 2020 Road Glide with the 107 engine. I did the stage 1, (was going to do this anyways) and thought I'd go a step further and bought your tank lift kit and the oil relocation kit and I've never been over 230 degrees. Quality products and great vids, thanks guys
That is great that you are keeping the temps at 230 or below. 👍
We appreciate your business and your comment.
Wishing many miles of smiles on your ride!
KP
@@DKCustomProductshere is the typical, to mention the temp measured, but not indicating where at or what method was used..as I continue to rant about everyone's video's or comment.. See nor did you guy didn't think to clearify where is was measured.
Good talk, guys. The first thing is to run a good synthetic oil! Amsoil, SYN3, etc.
My friend installed a set of Love Jugs last summer, and his temp runs around 190-200 now! He has Electra Glide Ultra Classic. I'm going to get oil temp gage and see where I'm at. I enjoyed this video.
Glad you like the video and glad that your friend is having such great temp readings!
Thanks for commenting! 😎 MB
Just ordered the new air cleaner w/catch can and external venting system. 3rd DK order this year!!
That is great! I know you will be pleased with the Air Cleaner and EBS. Thank you for commenting, your support, and for your business! We appreciate you! MB
The simplest mod I did that made the biggest improvement to my 2018 M8 was the head breathers and catch can
Glad you are well pleased with the EBS and Catch Can!!! Sometimes the simplest mods are all we need!
Thank you for your business and for commenting! MB
dk builds good solid stuff.
best mod for me was removing lowers per the owners manuals
Yes, that is a good mod to cool things down. Then in colder weather, one can use soft lowers if they want.
Good deal!
Thank you for your comment, and we appreciate your business. 👍😎👍
KP
I respect you guys and your point of view (POV) about ways to care for our bikes. I had my local Harley dealer install the oil cooler fan on my 22 Street Glide, 107. I assumed this would help cool the oil but do you think I need an oil dipstick that measures the temps of the oil? If so, which is the best value for someone who flies economy class?
I am glad that you like the videos! The oil cooler will help cool down the oil. If you are wanting to measure the oil temps the best Oil Temp Gauges we have found are sold by JES Customs. You can find a few different digital options to choose from. www.jescustomaccents.com/
Thank you for your support and for commenting! 👍😎👍 MB
Hi Guys - great information - I am Australian living in Asia with daily temp 30 to 40 degrees C every day, my 2006 fatboy gets crazy hot in the traffic, what can I do to help drop that in traffic temp? Keep up the great videos, love your work
There are so many things you could do to help cool down your bike and help with improving the longevity!
Here are two links to a two part report we've done on why and how to cool down your Twin Cam and M8 that you may find useful/interesting - www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
and
www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
Here is a video about the common sense approach to cooling down your bike that you may also find interesting - ruclips.net/video/CAcF0T-Cs3E/видео.html
Here is a full playlist of Why and How to Cool Down Your Bike - ruclips.net/p/PLb3bvZgbH92_3s-2vv63QggFJ3nteFd_C
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
yea this new build is gonna be hotter then my last goes to the dyno soon
should be around 165-170 hp i just run the Harley cooler and fan.but might have
to think about doing something else when its like 85 or more in maryland i don't ride it.
Not sure what bike you have, but the tips in this video are a really good place to start!
Here is a video to 10 low to no cost mods that you can do to cool a bike down - ruclips.net/video/o3T3yA9BKwE/видео.html
Feel free to reach out if you have any question;
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Thank you for commenting! MB
I live in Vermont where we are 1 growing season from Indiana where my dad lives I went to see him last year. This year I will be seeing him again this time I'm also going that extra mile to see ya'll (also 25 years in Florida) just to get ideas on what I'm looking at down the road I have a 2020 FLHCUTTRI GLIDE. in other words I respect your thoughts and I DO take them to heart. Otherwise I hope we can at least have a beer or JACK together. I'll be looking forward to meeting the both of ya!
Thank you for your support! We appreciate you! Let us know when you are planning to come down. We would love to meet you! We are having an Open House in June if that is something you would like to attend. You can meet the whole team, play some bike games, eat some food and have a shop tour!
Here is a video of our last open house that you may find interesting- ruclips.net/video/2WmJoENyiSA/видео.html
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Plan on seeing my dad for Father's day June 16 when's your open house?
June 8th is when our open house is this year! We will start promoting it soon! 😎 MB
You guys should list the temp drops you got on your testing with your products so customers can look and see I only need to add this to try and come close to achieve the 230 degree temp. You don't want to over cool the motor either.
You can see numbers on the two page written report at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
and part 2
www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
Thanks for commenting! MB
I ride a 2010 triglide I sent you a few texts in the past few months. I've tried a lot of the free things , and cheap things like moving the coil, the left thigh guard and an oil cooler. I just had to replace the rear head gasket due to getting hot. I'm a pretty aggressive rider . I checked out the Jim force flow fans today. I'm trying to decide on what brand jug fans. I don't have the fork fins and moving the oil filter won't help. The lower faring won't allow it. I did change the filter type tho. It's got a stage two on it. When the head gasket was replace the cylinder and head looked good, low carbon build-up.
Allen, I am so sorry you are having issues with your Trike.
The very best advice we have is to follow this video that you are commenting on.
The above video is to be used in conjunction with the list seen at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
You can do an oil filter relocation, which will help by lowering oil temps by about 8-10 F.
You can see the one that fits your 2010 Trike at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/cool-n-clean-oil-filter-relocation-kit-for-harleytrikes-dk-cnc-ofr-tri.htm
Since you have a Stage II, the tune is even more important to be correct, so I would pay careful attention to make sure it is a good tune for whatever cams you used.
The other thing to check is a leak-down test, you can see a video on that at this link- ruclips.net/video/gojpttZQjKk/видео.html
I hope that some of this advice helps you find the problem and get it fixed!
Thank you for commenting! MB
Have you guys looked at the effect that a road glide fairing spoiler has on cooling the engine ? I have watched a few of your videos and picked up some good tips. But not sure I have saw you guys mention these spoilers
They can look really nice. Unfortunately they block some of the air to the engine and the engine will run hotter with them...in the 10-15 degree area.
IF you have done other things to cool the engine down, then you can still achieve optimum temps, even with the fairing spoiler.
We have a list of the various things you can do at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
Always feel free to email or call with any questions.
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Glad you are finding the videos useful, and thank you for looking at our parts. KP
Thanks for the quick reply and advice
You are most welcome! Thank you for commenting MB
It would be very interesting to see the wind flow getting to the oil cooler behind the front tire. I dont know for sure, but I suspect the cooler is NOT getting the maximum air flow it should. I have not seen any wind tunnel test, but I do know the Harley bagger race bike moved the radiator into the front fairing for MORE and better airflow.
We have Not done any wind tunnel tests for the oil cooler behind the front tire/fender.
However, we Have done testing where the exact same oil cooler, when moved from the location behind the front tire/fender to be mounted on the front downtube, out in the wind much better, will result in 15-25 F cooler oil.
We discuss this subject a bit in the video linked below, you may find it interesting/useful
ruclips.net/video/M9ta84TmROc/видео.html
Thank you for commenting! KP
@@DKCustomProducts I have no doubt moving the oil cooler to more "clean" air will make it function better. I will start researching how to move more air to the oil cooler..
I was curious what people thought of the harley cool flow fan for reducing heat? Thanks
Just like the EITMS, the Cool Flow Fan is not designed to cool down the engine. It is designed to reduce the heat radiating out to the rider and passenger.
Here is a video that explains the EITMS by a Harley Store Manager- ruclips.net/video/T2aG284iCKc/видео.html
Here is what Harley Corporate says on their website about the Cool Flow Fan-
"The CoolFlow Fan Kit keeps the riders comfortable by pulling air away from the rear cylinder and exhaust pipe, and directing it toward the ground."
They also say-
"The fan will help pull air from the front of the engine to the back of the bike. Its not designed to help cool off the rear exhaust pipe but it will help get air moving around the engine."
And a Customer asked Harley Corporate this question-
"Does the cool flow fan cool the motor as well as the rider?"
Harley answered "the CoolFlow Fan Kit keeps the riders comfortable by pulling air away from the rear cylinder and exhaust pipe, and directing it toward the ground."
There are many more Q&A's like this...but the bottom line is that the Cool Flow Fan does not cool down the engine, it just reduces the heat that the rider and passenger feel.
To actually cool down the engine, check out our written report at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
And our video series on the subject at this link- ruclips.net/p/PLb3bvZgbH92_3s-2vv63QggFJ3nteFd_C
All that said, using the ForceFlow fan to cool the engine, and then the Cool Flow Fan to help reduce radiating heat, they will compliment each other.
Always feel free to email or call with any questions.
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Thanks for commenting! MB
I put fork fangs on because of the buffeting on my helmet was to severe and agrivated my tinnitus to much
I am not sure what bike you have, but you may want to consider trying the Cooling Deflector Wings. They help with cooling the engine and deflecting the wind from you to the engine which results in less buffeting. The fork fangs block the wind to your engine and does not help with cooling down the bike.
You can see more about the Cooling Deflector Wings at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/cooling-deflector-wings-for-touring-trike-models-dk-cdw-trg.htm
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
So any chance a video in the future on trike ABS brake bleed
We will add that to the list, but there are a few dozen videos ahead of it, so it is not going to be anytime soon.
Thank you for the suggestion. KP
I would like to know why don't Harley install decent cam plate and oil pump. I just purchased a 2021 Fatboy M8 with 17,000 k's and I only did 300 k's and there was no oil on the dipstick. It blew blue smoke every time I started it and it's now back at Harley which they haven't told me what the issue is but they are waiting on Harley to approve what ever it is before they can fix it. It has been over a week since they picked it up. Any ideas what it could be?
Thanks for watching our videos.
We cannot answer Why Harley does what they do, that is something to ask them (Yes, I know, you will not get a satisfactory answer).
We can only speculate. Harley does seem to have a pattern of releasing a new engine variation and then refining it over the next 2-3 years based on Customer feedback/experiences.
The above is the best answer we can give to your first question.
Regarding your second question...
Without the bike in front of us to be able to look at it, it is very difficult to say why there was no oil on the dipstick and why it is blowing blue smoke on start up.
It is possible (can't say with certainty, since the bike is not in front of us) that the cylinder or rings, or both, are compromised. That would explain burning thru the oil and seeing some blue smoke.
Also, there have been some bad batches of cylinders from the factory, so that makes the possibility even stronger.
Hope the Dealership gets back to you soon and you get it resolved satisfactorily, so you can get back in the wind.
Thanks for commenting! MB
What if any effect would moving the horn on my 18 FLTRX have on my engine temps? Have you guys played around with a diverter in it's place, or just the fan? Mostly I don't like the look of the damn thing. But I don't want to do anything that would heat me back up
It doesn’t make a notable difference to just remove it. It’s not really in a location that compromises air flow and the temp sensor is on the other side of the engine. A fan blows thru the cylinders but the horn isn’t necessary a detriment to air flow.
If you just don’t like the look of it, you can always go with a smaller horn up front. You can see the horn relo at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/black-motorcycle-horn-105-db-w-wire-extension-bracket-dk-hrn-blk.htm
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Where are the temps being taken? Heads, jugs, case? Are temps being taken with an inferred thermometer?
Kevin has a Power Vision and it goes off of the sensor that is in the head. We have a video on using a heat gun, and how unreliable they can be, that you can see here - ruclips.net/video/afgon9Qc1B8/видео.html
Thanks for commenting! MB
@@DKCustomProducts Thank you for the quick response. Now I need to go find the list of ways to cool my engine. Think I saw that you guys once said to port hole the heat shield on the left side.
I wanted to buy the 2 inch lift kit, but I don’t have enough slack in my wiring underneath the dash cover. Is there anything I can do to extend all that so I can fit this kit and cool down my engine
You do not say what bike you have, but I am 99% sure that you have enough wire for a 2" tank lift. You would just need to cut the zip tie holding your wires and re-zip tie or tape them back once you are done.
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting! MB
You always talk about Harleys running hot. What about evo Sportsters?
Sportys do not have a heat problem like the Twin Cams and M8's. Every now and then we run across a Sporty that is running a bit hot, but not very often.
If you look at the 1:20 mark in this video, you will see the optimum oil and engine temps for Sportsters. Most of them run there without any assistance.
ruclips.net/video/rWOdQOtDv6A/видео.html
KP
Thanks for the info guys, I have a question I have a 2017 ultra classic that I have put Rinehart exhaust on s&s 475 cam any Reinhart inverted air cleaner which after Dino is putting out 121 lbs of torque and 113 HP... I would love to run one of your external breathing system but I'm being told it won't work with my air cleaner.
I spent $380 on that air cleaner and don't want to buy another. Do you have any solution to run one of your EBS?
That system would require modifications using the DIY kits found here...
www.dkcustomproducts.com/diy-external-breather-systems-305.htm
It will take drilling and taping your standoffs on the backplate and plugging the holes that breathe into the backplate.
The install procedure can be seen here in this video on a similar system...
ruclips.net/video/oYSQWWJYZak/видео.html
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Thank you for commenting! MB
I have 2020 triglide ultra. I just got the oil cooler and filter relocation kit from DK (haven't installed it yet, just got it). what is the best way to monitor the oil temp? Can you recommend a oil temp gauge. Thanks
I know you will be very well pleased with the oil cooler and the ease of changing your oil after installing the oil filter relo! Also the cooler temps!!!!!
You can find some good reliable Oil Temp gauges at JES Customs.
www.jescustomaccents.com/
Thank you for your business and for commenting! MB
Do the cooling wings work with a 2021 RG Limited?
Yes, they will work. Be aware there are special instructions for the Road Glide. This will be covered in the included instructions sheet.
Here is a link to the product page - www.dkcustomproducts.com/cooling-deflector-wings-for-touring-trike-models-dk-cdw-trg.htm
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
Were can i get your cooling list please
Below are links to a two part written report about why and how to cool down your Twin Cam and M8 - www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
and
www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
Here is a link to a video on some low to no cost cooling mods- ruclips.net/video/o3T3yA9BKwE/видео.html
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
Thank you for commenting! MB
My 03 Heritage Softail Classic has the V-Twin 88 on her and within minutes of riding,she’s beyond hot,even running on the highway the heat is ridiculous,I may not be the smartest biker,but I do all my maintenance myself but is there anything you can suggest for her?
Yes, we have a list at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
I would read the info there, and then start at the top of the list (on page 2) and work my way down until the bike is at a temperature you are comfortable with..
Always feel Free to email or call with any questions:
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Thanks for commenting! MB
@@DKCustomProducts Thanks Man,I appreciate it
You're welcome. 👍
KP
fork fangs helps keep road debris out of my eyes.
Everything's a trade-off.
KP
I finally found a way to beat the HD heat, I bought a Challenger.
I am not sure if you are talking about the car or an Indian, but Indians have the same heat issues. There are just less of them out there so it isn't talked about as much.
Different Strokes for Different Folks. Millions of us are very Happy with our Harley's. 👍😎👍MB
@@DKCustomProducts I’ve never had an issue with any HD I’ve owned. Traded my ultra for the Indian Challenger because I wanted a better touring bike (liquid cooled) waited to long for HD to get out of the dark ages.
Glad you haven't had any issues with your bikes! Thanks for commenting! MB
Off topic...how do you keep your beard from blowing up in your face? I can't find a comfortable way of doing it myself lol.
Nice beard you got going in your photo.
I use 4 or 5 hair ties, and they do a pretty good job. 👍
KP
Does anyone make a under triple tree deflector for the 2023 Streetbob models similar to what you can get for the touring models?...I run my Streetbob with a 14 inch detachable windshield but the wind seems to still blow up underneath...I use one of those triple tree deflectors on my Roadking and it seems to make a bit of a difference.@@DKCustomProducts
The beard in the face struggle is real...if you guys ever invent something to divert more of the air to the engine rather than blowing the beard up in my face I will buy the product...been struggling for years.@@DKCustomProducts
or full face helmet that's what I do now lol.
I wear a modular full face and the beard still blows up infront of my fullface. Hair ties pull at my beard...I have even worn neck tubes with my beard tucked up underneath...not bad when the weather is cooler...when it gets hot out it's a killer. I've had the beard for so many years I don't want to shave it down.@@sanderpena
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Yea scrap it
Scrap what? MB
The shitty harley. Most unreliable pc of shit ever
Can you get white headed man it get to the point,and speed up his comments chases to many rabbit holes
When we do shorter videos and do not cover all the points/rabbit holes then we get asked questions. Many folks want to know everything there is to know (what is down each rabbit hole) about their Harley.
For those that want just the short version, we have over 300 "shorts" which can be seen at this link- www.youtube.com/@DKCustomProducts/shorts
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KP
To much talk not enough product.
Sorry if you felt it was too much talking, but it is a discussion of practical ways to cool down your bike.
You can see the written report at this link. The second page of the report has products and degree drops from the products that you may find interesting - www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
part 2
www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-your-twin-cam-engine-part-ii-dk-cl-tc-dn-2.htm
Thank you for commenting! MB
It’s easy just don’t ride it
That might work for some, but for most of us it isn't an option!!! MB 😎