The Kevster Principle: the OW2 Tracer Solution
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Having trouble with Tracer in 2024? Is Overwatch 2 just... too team oriented for a hero like Tracer to work? Nope. I've got an easy (sort of) solution for you.
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0:00 Intro
1:04 the Kevster Principle
2:50 Kill vs. Distraction
5:20 Feels bad?
6:45 Fundamentals
9:08 Team player?
13:13 GOOD Play
14:55 Awkward?
18:30 Conclusion
Edited by ryanp - / @ryanp652 
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People want elims because getting elims is sexy. Meanwhile... staying alive, splitting attention, baiting out resources, and herding your opponents into bad positions is the real art of playing Tracer. Great vid!
More than people just wanting elims, it's all that people see when they watch the highlights. I used to get games in t500 EU lobbies, and let me tell you, even if they aren't killing lots of people in a fight, they are having so much impact. People like Chazm, Kevster, Sirmajed, KSAA, FDGod etc. They're impossible to ignore, they always have a good bit of attention from all 5 players on the enemy team. It's hard to put your finger on exactly what they're doing, but the way they plays provides immense gravity for their team. Stuff like that is hard to understand from the pro's POV as a spectator.
This is why no one plays tank
you also get flamed if you dont have the most kills and you're losing
@@peepopogchampfacts dude even at m5. Elims im usually there top or near. Dmg is the real thing. “10 mins ?k dmg.” Super annoying, my b let me farm tank
I think that's the fundamental thing people dont understand about ball is he can distract so well. If people don't see their ball standing in front of them and you arent killing isolated targets, they just assume you arent doing anything. Meanwhile ball has both supports peeling for each other so no one else on their team is getting help and they don't need their teams healing as the ball player
This video is a perfect example of why tracer is so incredibly hard. You have to constantly be in the correct position for your team, and apply just the right amount of pressure for their level of engagement with the enemy team. And on top of that, you need great mechanics too.
The upside is she's a DPS that can fulfill the tanks role at the same time.
I literally only 1 tricked tracer and echo in seasons 1 to 3 and I climbed to masters effortlessly, and i always thought it was easy and i even used to say tracer is easy but I've recently branched out and I realised why people think tracer is hard and it's because outside of tank, everything else in the game is lowkey easy 😂
Tank is a different beast tho, i only started really playing it in s9 and its incredibly fun but I'm hard stuck gold when I hit gm as support in 3 days and I climbed to gm as dps inna day after finally deciding to play the counterpick game, but like as dps or support I can deal with reapers and bastion, but tank is the hardest dam class because every other class has a win button over you and theres litterally dps you cannot win 1v1s with but outside of tank, playing tracer first made the rest of the game seem like easy mode lmao
@@shawngorski9714if tracer is so easy why tf you stuck in masters lmao
Jumped in ranked after watching this. Few days ago, i was disgusted bcs i was stuck, the first game i did today was a proper 20/3 k/d carry game. Thank you for this.
I knew it as "Attention is a resource." Cool concept to see.
6:16 thank you, I hope I never see this image of Tracer ever in my life again lmao
I needed to hear this; sometimes when the enemy team is heavily grouped up i kinda give up and let the game be whatever it wants it to be, either losing or winning it. I was able to aknowledge i have to distract, but thing is, i sometimes dont have the patience to do it lol, i gotta try it and see how it goes
ever since your last video that touched on the principle a little bit i’ve been looking for more. thank you for this
Great idea to make this part a video!! Best part of the VOD brilliant stuff
I love your tracer content, thanks once again
12:55 I feel like the thing to learn here isn't just thinking, but condensed thinking. Being able to assess a situation, think of the possible outcomes for different actions, and being able to commit/de-commit instantly after deciding what to do is a lot harder than people may assume.
It might sound like an insult when you're being told that you aren't thinking enough, but I believe its more so a sign of how much effort is needed to pull off instant reaction plays in the middle of a hectic battlefield.
This is where COMMS come in. CD callouts, Enemy positions, ULT tracking. Good supports or any backline hero should be doing this. Even simple pings help.
I’ve actually been doing this for a while with Reaper and Tracer, and I swear the teammates always think you’re providing no value. And that’s when you know you’re playing with morons that you’re enabling and allowing to pop off. I’ll be 7-2, while the tank and the other DPS is 13-3 or something. As long as we win, I’m good 😂
Yeah, they don't see that I'm trading Wraith for Suzu and Immort (surviving) and therefore assume I'm providing no value... They see me force out the 2 biggest cooldowns and don't push in, I really don't know what else to tell them. Some people are just dumb, and this happens in GM as well, especially with supports assuming you're doing nothing because you're not killing everyone.
That’s why I don’t join VC nor text chat anymore, teammates focus too much on stats and counterpicks and I just wanna do my thing.
There’s a key loop as tracer that you’ll
Often find: enemies take angles and spread out. You isolate and kill and do a ton of damage. Then after, they will get wise to this, and group up to prevent that. By then you should have pulse bomb; grouped enemies are weak to pulse bomb. After a big pulse, enemies spread out more and the cycle continues.
Me as a ball taking notes
And it works for all DPS heroes (with their particularities). It is very satisfying when you watch your own replays and see you won team fights because you were in the right angle at the right time. Good video, Spilo! I have a 58-60% win rate with Soldier and I am pushing hard to get Diamond.
do you wait in off angle or just shoot whole time, no patience?
this reminds me of a game I played almost a year ago that I played hog against a full 5 counter enemy team, but they were throwing so much stuff at me and I was still living that my team was destroying
Haven't even watched the full vid yet, but noticed the editing. Really like the captions! new editor?
this was mad helpful , even tho its not season9 , ill try to apply that in my games
i rember watchig this in spilo 2 such a good episode
I noticed the subtle Awkward jab. Good shout
Very good video. I feel like i engage at the right time 90% of time but i definately do give up positional advantages and waste my time during the mid fight a lot.
Ive also definately been overvaluing the positives of poking the tank here and there from off angles purely to keep the 20% heal reduction debuff on them. Thinking about it a heal reduction is nothing compared to distracting healers.
This will definately make me a bit less of an "ehh im bored im going to go poke that for a bit" tracer and tbh its helped me rethink some of my genji play as well. Im very good as a frontline/ sudo offtank genji, im also good at playing side angles from a close to team kind of position but too much time playing into shit like double shield or goats type comps has definately destroyed the effectiveness of my flank/assasin genji playstyle. I very rarely surprise people and in fact for no real reason like to go for the head on 1v1 matchup relying on mechanics. Its satisfying but definately not very smart.
Oddly enough im kinda an initial timing plus mechanics tracer/genji with very little afterthought but if necesary im very solid at playing the defensive role, by which i mean actively dueling enemy flankers and ruining their effectiveness. I dont really get kills with brains in that scenario either though, i could wait in areas ect but i tend to mainly get value from predicting the enemies movement and landing combos.
Patients and active thought are difinately my weakest points. I play via instinct or random impulse most of the time and i certainly hate the setup process and will cut it as short as i possibly can, without intentionally meaning too. I do adapt pretty well and will change up my playstyle but with whatever playstyle im going for these issues deffinately reduce the effectiveness of my gameplay.
Good video, has made me re-evaluate quite a few things.
Finally, we have solved tracer.
holy moly
The GOAT being recognized here
That feeling when you’ve watched so many tracer videos and tried to apply what’s being taught but you are still in plat (I know it’s a me issue but still)
try making a new account, climbing on old accounts is basically impossible
This dude has the best name ever. Reminds me of naming my Mabari "Barkspawn" in DAO
The worst is when you have like half the elims of your supports who keep getting clean up elims, and you break their team apart every fight, literally the backbone of your team and than you hit that final push where theres rarely good flank routes and you dony usually have room to play around in their backline as its their spawn so you guys walk it to the end with 4 mins remaining and your teams got crazy inflated stats and you dont and than everyone blames you as if they just hard carried you to the end of the map only for your lack of imput to be the thing holding them back even tho this just exposes how useless their mentally is of run at the choke without a plan because it worked all game until now.
This happens all the time and i just there getting flamed like "without me yall would still be at the bloody spawn' and i sware its how easy i make the game for a team that like lulls them into thinking the enemy team is ass so they like almost try less.
So what do you do if you keep distracting and your team is still dying and the distraction is not working, sometimes I feel like I’m doing the most and my team just dies still lol I will have over 5k damage and no elims from distracting and sometimes I’ll get a kill if I pulse bomb someone or if I can finish off someone who is weak
@spilo would it not be fair that at the fundemental section at 7:00 that he should have instead countinued to fight the mauga creating a distraction while his team focuses on the fight from a different angle he would have won that way he decided to back away however instead of constantly prssering and didint seem to have countinued his uptime because of it i agree with your points on the ashe and how that would have given more value but either way co nstant pressure whoever is shooting at you should be shot back at and create a cycle of distractions
Babe, wake up! Spilo dropped another Kevster video!!!!!!😣😣😣
Is this the old gold Tracer VoD review?
Another Spilo W
Highly respectable nickname. Urdnot Blunt.
I've been practicing Tracer lately (hard with 80 ping) and it seems like in gold that forcing out cooldowns isn't enough value to justify the pick. Am I just not timing it right? I know I'm dying too much, but since I feel like I'm not getting enough value either, I don't know whether to play safer or play more aggressive
If youre dying too much it could be the angles youre taking, blink usage, wasting recall, timing etc. hard to tell with no code
Agree with comment above but imo I think it’s likely timing being off as to when you engage possibly target priority with said timing, on top of that positioning for when you stage possibly could be better? Idk without a code just some suggestions
value can come from baiting abilities or even just attention
but know that attention baiting has fleeting value and you should definitely play safer if thats all you can manage to pull
you can call when you're gonna try to bait cool downs and also when you succeed
like "gonna try to bait ana nade, can we push tank if we do?"
and then
the hope is to make an advantage, and then let your team know to leverage it
U dont count as a real distraction, if ur not a kill threat.
@@doctoroppa7991 this is the real answer, if you spend all game tickling the enemy, no one will respect your presence. have to instill fear early, and occasionally remind them of how dangerous you are, and avoid dying the rest of the time. even in gold, you will climb doing that. the hard part is instilling fear without dying :)
Spilo why did you cut out the flexing muscles in the intro that was my favorite part
This is where I spot if my team is the problem or it is me. With tracer or any other DPS. If I'm pulling two enemies to fight me for a minute (I die or pick only one of them) and in that minute my team is losing the 4 vs 3, then we have a problem.
Did you say Tracer is a 150 HP character? Was this filmed before season 9?
I guess 150 is now just slang for "she's got the lowest health in the game". Calling her 200hp doesn't emphasize how squishy she is
Tracer has 150 hp during the replay so I guess so
Should soldier do a similar thing but more safe with their team? Or also go into every flank trying to time it and run away if it doesn't work?
Depends on their team comp. Tracer is unique in the sense that this will always be her job, whereas it won’t always be with others like soldier. If they have a tracer sombra, flanking on soldier is basically suicide and is exactly what they want you to do. So u play near your supports in those situations, and if they have a team comp like mercy ana torb mei sigma, flanking is great because no one can reach you.
What if it's a tracer widow lmao, rip@@ryanschuch1832
Do the new Hanzo without a Mercy pocket next :)
Could this apply to genji aswell ?
yes!
This is the same principle that tanks like winston, ball, and reinhardt have to use.
When I have 3 chasing me around through all my cooldowns and a healthpack and my team still looses a 2v4.... All game.
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I watch to many montages than running 1v5 trying to get one clips
I climbed to diamond with 10 less elims and 7 more deaths then my dos each game lol
anytime i start losing in overwatch im always blamed for not having high elims or high damage. even though i force out cooldowns and set my team up so THEY can get all the elims and damage. it seems like all my teams hold down tab and assume that shows the entire story. playing tracer is fun and can be incredibly useful, but u will always seem to be the burden on ur team.
I get the same playing genji. Don’t worry about it, just keep doing your job
A lot of the same principles on ball
Tracer used to be a high skill floor hero but with season 9 she is incredibly easy now to pick up and get value with. That is why she is highly picked across the game
All of her best counters’ break points were nerfed because she got the extra 25hp making them considerably worse against her. Ie. Mei icicle no longer 1 shots her, meaning you have to hit 1 hs force recall then hit a 2nd hs and a body shot at minimum to kill her. Kiri now cant hs bodyshot her. She has to hit 2-3 crits. Etc.
Basically changing the breakpoints removed a lot of risk on playing tracer when you know you cant just be 1 shot by a mei
Additionally buffing the projectile size of her shots has made her way more forgiving. She is able to be less accurate than before and hit more of her clip. Also crucially she is able to play at further range from her opponent than before and hit more shots, allowing her to play outside heroes like brig’s range. Her pulse bomb is much easier to land now as well with it having a bigger hit box while the hp changes didnt change any breakpoints for it, so even that became easier to get kills with
On top of all that. Being able to apply the dps passive across the map by spraying a single point of damage is super dumb. Some sort of dmg threshold before the dps passive’s activation is needed to stop tracers across the map tickling you and that be enough to negate 15% healing
All in all, tracer used to be high risk, high skill, high reward. Now she is low-medium risk, low-medium skill, high reward.
One of my main problems with the game. Instead of making people play properly , they make the game easier.
It’s the same logic for the sombra rework imo.
@@1stNumberOneeh... ik it doesn't translate 1:1 but everyone else got projectile size buffs too, including potential mirrors, imo it just reinforced better positioning/use of cover and a little less on mechanics but you absolutely need them still and the former 2 skillsets really exposed how bad the general player base is at them
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