I don't know anything about average speeds for this sort of thing but, that was a bloody quick turnaround unload / load. That was spaghetti Western quick, that was.
So... That's out of the box?! Wow! I always plan on spending a couple of days putting the Mundin treatment on everything!! They're really getting with the program!!
I like your no judgement here style and attitude, never competed myself, just a backwoods country boy that has shot all my life, love revolvers, especially saa...
finally someone who bought the pretty ones! that polished blueing is rare nowadays and ruger doesnt even make a blued unfluted cyclinder! beautiful. those are .45 long colt right? and the cylinders can be swapped for .45acp
I have 2 pistolero's pietta makes beautiful replicas. I just built a hand of god race gun from 1 of my pistolero's. Using it for fanning and the triple shot.
I have a Pietta 1873 and it truly is a fine gun! Great quality and craftsmanship and very accurate I might add. Kind Thanks and Good Shootin! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Hi, New Subscriber. I’m glad I happened on to your Videos. Man, that’s crazy fast. I wasn’t expecting that at all. You have some serious hand Coordination and Hand Eye Coordination. I bet they would have hated to see you come Riding into Town in the Old West. That was incredible. Looking forward to seeing all your Videos.👍👍
Nice review 👍🏻love the way you unload the guns, need to learn that 🤠 I'm new to cowboy action shooting and run a papir of Ruger SASS revolvers in 38 special, really love thouse guns 🙏🏻
Yo first video i seen of you. Just here looking for opinions on different SA revolvers. Did not expect the speed you brought. Fuck man. Impressed. Oh. And good video 🤙
They made them years ago, and featured John Wayne in all their catalogs. Colt took them to court and won. The only real difference between the two guns were the running hors on the grip and Colts rearing Colt. Many Western movies featured their revolvers. Audie Murphy used them, and a special one was made for Don Knotts fused in The Shakiest Gun in the West. I did some searching.
Some pretty quick shooting there by my standards. With that kind of use, how long do these things normally go before developing timing issues from wear? I'm just getting into cowboy guns, and and my only other revolver experience is with a Ruger GP-100 so I'm not sure what to expect with wear over time.
So you might not be the person to ask but after seeing how fast your thumbing is, why do people consider fanning to be more damaging then rapid thumbing? Pretty sure I saw your cylinder skip a couple times there, but that might've been just me
I respect the speed and skill to your fast firing of the revolver with double taps. However, without adjusting or strengthening the gun’s action, aren’t you stressing that wheel gun a bit? Yes, the Great Western II comes tuned from the factory and is better action than the Frontier or the older base Pistolero models, but the double tap style you are using (similar to some fast draw competition shooters use) will run havoc to the timing and wear (even break) the hand. If to be used in fast shooting cowboy action competitions, I would still recommend owners to get proper action adjustments done to the gun and not risk using as stock out of the box. General use though it should be fine.
I believe the great western ll revolvers have the floating firing pin , which allows for carrying 6 instead of 5. That is the only safety on these weapons besides the shooter
I have one of those, and I don't think it has any safety on the firing pin. As said in the video, there are two notches on the base pin, with one allowing the pin to project further in forming a hammer block safety.
@@bigbill2444 I am familiar with the base pin The great western ll doesn't have a safety on the firing pin or( floating spur), The firing pin works similarly to glock, making it drop safe so you carry six instead of five if you choose to. The floating firing pin is essentially a safety in itself.
@@rustyyates421 The firing pin will rotate on a pivot pin (this is so that it can go through a small hole in the frame while mounted to a hammer that rotates on another pivot pin), but it doesn't float. If you want to see a floating firing pin, look at a Ruger New Model revolver; it's a spring loaded pin that is normally retracted unless the hammer (or transfer bar, actually) contacts it. If you remove the cylinder on a Great Western II, and drop the hammer, you will see that the firing pin protrudes even with your finger off the trigger; this is not a floating firing pin. That firing pin rests on a primer if there's a round there.
@bigbill2444 the great western ll is a pietta product and they say its a floating firing pin. They specifically say they made it that way to make it safe to carry 6 rounds if you choose . They made it that way for safety reasons and still maintain the look of the original colts that have a hammer spur. Unless Ruger has changed their system, they have used the transfer bar system for years. In fact, I believe they created tge transfer bar system, which Pietta also used for years and actually still do in some models. The Heritage Roughrider and also I had a traditions 44 mag with the transfer bar system.
@@rustyyates421 If you will do as I suggest, you will see that with the hammer down, and the trigger not pulled back, the firing pin protrudes such that it will contact a primer if one's there. If you don't do that, you're taking someone else's word for something you can check yourself. If you do that with a Ruger New Model revolver, you'll see that the firing pin does not protrude; that's a floating firing pin, and, with the transfer bar system, it's next to impossible to fire a round with the trigger not pulled. This is not so with the Great Western II. Check it for yourself,and get back to me. Or don't, the choice is yours.
"Anyone knows..." That's just plain incorrect. "Speeding up the video..." No, it's real time. It's a combo of both cocking and triggering, as well as fanning (holding trigger engaged while cock-firing). Doing anything thousands of times will work out all the wasted movements and moments. SASS (single action shooting society) is a competition organization. Speed against the clock is everything for winning competitions. Showboating, as you put it, is a part of the enjoyment of SASS because most of the point of SASS is dress up, show, acting, fictitious names, reproduction of spaghetti western style gun handling. It's supposed to be showy and fun and flair. And obviously people can get very quick handling SAA firearms. Here's someone demonstrating double-tap, slip-thumb fanning, etc. /watch?v=dy4D5n8LQ6U
The cylinder spinning (in this instance) is to check that none of the rounds have protruding primers that would catch and hang up the cylinder. I shot with Deuce at the National Championships this past week, and yes, he really is that fast. Serious Cowboy Action shooters want to see these guns run just as hard as Deuce can do it. If they can hold up to his use, then slowpokes like me should have no issues with them.
I don't know anything about average speeds for this sort of thing but, that was a bloody quick turnaround unload / load. That was spaghetti Western quick, that was.
Your crazy speed took me by surprise. Nicely done!
I didn't know these guns could shoot that fast. You must have a lot of experience to develop these skills. Much respect to you.
I swear I thought those shots were sped up..man. That’s some quick accurate shooting right there! Impressive..
You made a subscriber out of me first time watching. And with all the bovine scatology out here today, that’s saying a lot.
So... That's out of the box?! Wow! I always plan on spending a couple of days putting the Mundin treatment on everything!! They're really getting with the program!!
I like your no judgement here style and attitude, never competed myself, just a backwoods country boy that has shot all my life, love revolvers, especially saa...
I could watch you clear and reload all day!
Thanks for the info picked up a pair after seeing your videos . Looking forward to going to a sass shoot . And trying it out.
finally someone who bought the pretty ones! that polished blueing is rare nowadays and ruger doesnt even make a blued unfluted cyclinder! beautiful. those are .45 long colt right? and the cylinders can be swapped for .45acp
I have 2 pistolero's pietta makes beautiful replicas. I just built a hand of god race gun from 1 of my pistolero's. Using it for fanning and the triple shot.
I plan on buying a Single Action revolver sometime this year. So far, you’re giving me some good pointers.
I have a Pietta 1873 and it truly is a fine gun! Great quality and craftsmanship and very accurate I might add. Kind Thanks and Good Shootin! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Hi, New Subscriber. I’m glad I happened on to your Videos. Man, that’s crazy fast. I wasn’t expecting that at all. You have some serious hand Coordination and Hand Eye Coordination. I bet they would have hated to see you come Riding into Town in the Old West. That was incredible. Looking forward to seeing all your Videos.👍👍
Good shooting Steve great presentation 👍
I'm glad I ran across this. Nice shooting. Got a sub for sure
Nice review 👍🏻love the way you unload the guns, need to learn that 🤠
I'm new to cowboy action shooting and run a papir of Ruger SASS revolvers in 38 special, really love thouse guns 🙏🏻
Yo first video i seen of you. Just here looking for opinions on different SA revolvers.
Did not expect the speed you brought. Fuck man. Impressed.
Oh. And good video 🤙
Thanks, Deuce. We’re running a new shooter clinic on Sunday and I will definitely let the folks know that these revolvers will run.
Cool shooting brother I own a couple of those cimarron 1873 army one in 45long colt and one in 9mm/357mag
What a great video.
Outstanding!
I remember reading that EMF started manufacturing in Los Angeles, but sold through a distributor who also imported German firearms.
EMF is the importer, not the manufacturer. Pietta makes them in Italy.
They made them years ago, and featured John Wayne in all their catalogs. Colt took them to court and won. The only real difference between the two guns were the running hors on the grip and Colts rearing Colt. Many Western movies featured their revolvers. Audie Murphy used them, and a special one was made for Don Knotts fused in The Shakiest Gun in the West. I did some searching.
First mad skills artisan level! Second I was on the fence but I think I gotta get me one of these!
Are you slip hammering those things? Amazing speed.
Can you slip Ruger transfer bar guns like Vaqueros and Single Sevens?
You got tax stamps for those machine guns? ;)
I was not expecting you to be that fast
That’s impressive brother 👍🏻👍🏻👊🏼
Awesome shooting and reloading
You said you had a Mernicle holster
Which model?
Thanks
Thy for sharing
wow . your good with iron. yup sure is fun.
good job
Some pretty quick shooting there by my standards. With that kind of use, how long do these things normally go before developing timing issues from wear? I'm just getting into cowboy guns, and and my only other revolver experience is with a Ruger GP-100 so I'm not sure what to expect with wear over time.
Excellent
Holy smokes, that’s taking your time in a hurry 😁👍
👍 👌
Impressive how well you handle those guns.
You load those guns pretty darn fast and your shooting is very fast
Enjoy the video and yeah you are quick with the pistol there
Question. This guy is obviously an expert shooter. Do you think the Wild West shooters were as or just as good? I need to know this.
You ejecting those empty cases are satisfying.
So you might not be the person to ask but after seeing how fast your thumbing is, why do people consider fanning to be more damaging then rapid thumbing? Pretty sure I saw your cylinder skip a couple times there, but that might've been just me
Are these the gunfighter models of the Great Western ll ? Thanks 🙏🏼
What's your take on fanning a pistol?😊
You said these would not be your main match guns. What would be the main match guns and why?
absolute crack shot
9mm ?
Dam,right,man
So is that a 38spl load? And do you compete in that ammo?
Yes it’s .38 and yes he does
Go ahead with your bad self!😊
How have they held up?
Bro! I didn’t know you can double tap like that😮 hey,do you know anyone who does race guns?
😮Is it OK for me to do that with an unmodified gun?
I respect the speed and skill to your fast firing of the revolver with double taps. However, without adjusting or strengthening the gun’s action, aren’t you stressing that wheel gun a bit? Yes, the Great Western II comes tuned from the factory and is better action than the Frontier or the older base Pistolero models, but the double tap style you are using (similar to some fast draw competition shooters use) will run havoc to the timing and wear (even break) the hand. If to be used in fast shooting cowboy action competitions, I would still recommend owners to get proper action adjustments done to the gun and not risk using as stock out of the box. General use though it should be fine.
impressive…indeed impressive: fast as a semiauto…
Which great western 2 model is this ?
Is this the 45 or 357 mag
Arthur Morgan in real life
That damn thing sounded like it was full auto.
357 mag???
I don't think I can move my thumbs that fast
i cant even count that fast lol.
I believe the great western ll revolvers have the floating firing pin , which allows for carrying 6 instead of 5. That is the only safety on these weapons besides the shooter
I have one of those, and I don't think it has any safety on the firing pin.
As said in the video, there are two notches on the base pin, with one allowing the pin to project further in forming a hammer block safety.
@@bigbill2444 I am familiar with the base pin
The great western ll doesn't have a safety on the firing pin or( floating spur),
The firing pin works similarly to glock, making it drop safe so you carry six instead of five if you choose to. The floating firing pin is essentially a safety in itself.
@@rustyyates421 The firing pin will rotate on a pivot pin (this is so that it can go through a small hole in the frame while mounted to a hammer that rotates on another pivot pin), but it doesn't float.
If you want to see a floating firing pin, look at a Ruger New Model revolver; it's a spring loaded pin that is normally retracted unless the hammer (or transfer bar, actually) contacts it.
If you remove the cylinder on a Great Western II, and drop the hammer, you will see that the firing pin protrudes even with your finger off the trigger; this is not a floating firing pin. That firing pin rests on a primer if there's a round there.
@bigbill2444 the great western ll is a pietta product and they say its a floating firing pin. They specifically say they made it that way to make it safe to carry 6 rounds if you choose . They made it that way for safety reasons and still maintain the look of the original colts that have a hammer spur.
Unless Ruger has changed their system, they have used the transfer bar system for years. In fact, I believe they created tge transfer bar system, which Pietta also used for years and actually still do in some models. The Heritage Roughrider and also I had a traditions 44 mag with the transfer bar system.
@@rustyyates421 If you will do as I suggest, you will see that with the hammer down, and the trigger not pulled back, the firing pin protrudes such that it will contact a primer if one's there.
If you don't do that, you're taking someone else's word for something you can check yourself.
If you do that with a Ruger New Model revolver, you'll see that the firing pin does not protrude; that's a floating firing pin, and, with the transfer bar system, it's next to impossible to fire a round with the trigger not pulled. This is not so with the Great Western II.
Check it for yourself,and get back to me.
Or don't, the choice is yours.
Might be a “true” reproduction in action only but Colt didn’t produce a SAA with an unfluted cylinder.
Very disappointing video. Watching a guy show off doing single action "mag dumps"
Quit spinning your cylinders. Anyone knows that's Hollywood showboating. And you're speeding up your video during shooting.
Speeding up th video would change the pitch of the gun shots. Doesn't sound like there is a pitch change in the audio.
"Anyone knows..."
That's just plain incorrect.
"Speeding up the video..."
No, it's real time. It's a combo of both cocking and triggering, as well as fanning (holding trigger engaged while cock-firing). Doing anything thousands of times will work out all the wasted movements and moments. SASS (single action shooting society) is a competition organization. Speed against the clock is everything for winning competitions. Showboating, as you put it, is a part of the enjoyment of SASS because most of the point of SASS is dress up, show, acting, fictitious names, reproduction of spaghetti western style gun handling. It's supposed to be showy and fun and flair. And obviously people can get very quick handling SAA firearms. Here's someone demonstrating double-tap, slip-thumb fanning, etc. /watch?v=dy4D5n8LQ6U
I love a good cylinder spin. It's the only way to defeat El Guapo!
The cylinder spinning (in this instance) is to check that none of the rounds have protruding primers that would catch and hang up the cylinder. I shot with Deuce at the National Championships this past week, and yes, he really is that fast. Serious Cowboy Action shooters want to see these guns run just as hard as Deuce can do it. If they can hold up to his use, then slowpokes like me should have no issues with them.
What caliber is this??!
Can you shoot +p 130 grain 38 special through these? I want to get one and got a few boxes.
Is this the 45 or 357 mag