When do you need to drive 280-300 km/h on a regular road? When the speed limit usually is 120-130 km/h tops, no matter what country you live in. (not even Germany)
Dennis3Run sounds like my garage.. i have an old 2003 SV1000, then a 09 CBR1000rr. Love them both very much and i now want a 3rd bike for the track/insane curvy mtn road riding. thinking of a KTM RC8 which has always been a dream bike. lol good thing bike collecting is so much cheaper than car collecting. can go buy 3 bikes for the cost of 1 car
I think the biggest issue with going up to 1000cc is not skill level, but maturity. Most people coming off a 250cc are more than likely going to be young, and anyone over the age of 30 will remember how much they liked to roar around at a billion mph in whatever shitbox vehicle they had at the time at that age. Give someone like that a superbike, and it can be a recipe for disaster. Generally speaking that is 😃
i test rode a 2005 cbr1000rr today im thinking about buying and ill tell you that i didnt need to go over 15mph to see a significant difference from my zzr600. in my opinion you should do a test ride before you buy especially if your coming from a 300 or lower, if you test ride i guarantee the answer will be clear lol. but i will say i started on a 600 but i took the MSF and had my dad train me for like a month in a huge parking lot before i went to the streets. cyclecruzas videos have probably kept me alive, like honestly. listen to the safe riders like cyclecruza and if you dont agree with some stuff he says, thats cool, but over time you will see how right he is. ride safe everyone!
+CycleCruza you saying litre (which is the english spelling) is like me saying Aluminium to you, just super weird to how people actually say it which is more like leeda (or leeta), and for you, people say aluminum, so if i get up in your grill going aluminIUM this and aluminIUM that, you'll be like haha this kids on crack xD good vid though bro.
I went from a 1985 Honda Shadow 500 (Cruiser) to a 1986 Yamaha YX600 (Cruiser) To a 2000 Yamaha R1 (Rocket) and i couldn't be happier. I love my speedy lil baby
I went from never having ridden a bike.... to passing my full licence and owning a cbr1000rr in 2 months.... as long as you've got a sensible head, it's absolutely fine.
At the end of they day, you do what ever you want. But developing your riding should be your main priority on any bike. Small bikes will always make people better riders. Slowly working your way up the cc is the best way. Getting ever closer to riding most of a bikes potential. Not just riding around in stop and go traffic getting used to the power and saying I'm bored time for more power, bikes have so much more to offer than that. If you can't have fun on a 125 you won't on a 600+ bike.
He says it like that because its english and he has a brain in which functions properly, unlike some dumbasses who say it as if theyre saying leader bike T is pronounced T not D
Hey man that's a spot on vid. Im a 600 guy, but i rode the 1000. My experience was like: Yeah the pull is cool, but its not necessary on the streets. So i just stayed with my R6. And people always give me shit like: yeah is a 600. And that's people who ride GS-s.. So yeah... I dont even bother
? For u bro. Ive been riding dirt bikes for a while from 125cc to 500+CC Race bikes. In planing on buying a motorcycle. But cant decide on size. 600 bc its my first street bike or 1000 and just put on low power until i get used to the ride?
Excellent review great opinions everything you said was spot on. A lot of beginners always want a large bike because they are afraid of not keeping up with the other sport bikes and seasoned riders but I always tell people start with a smaller cc bike and gradually work your way to a larger cc bike or a liter bike
I'm actually thinking of upgrading from my "starter" bike, which is a cbr500r. It's a phenomenal bike. I love it. The only problem is highway speeds. That's the only area that it's really lacking. One of the things that gives me pause with the 600s is the fact that they have to be so high up in the RPMs to actually make power. (I'm also not a fan of that "scream.") I'm almost thinking going to a liter bike makes more sense at this point, especially after thousands of miles of not just honing my skills, but having torque on tap at all times with the twin engine. If that makes sense.
That's kind of what I'm thinking. Here's my dilemma. I LOVE the low/middle end of the 500. It's BUTTER. Smooth as silk for scooting around town, but I'd like just a LITTLE more punch for passing in highway situations. I can do it mind you, but at that point, I'm pretty close to/at redline.
90% of people most likeley cant use the fall potential of a 600cc on a track. i know i cant. lol dam i want some lesson on how to lean. been riding for 10 years now. had a cbr250rr and a 600rr love hondas
I’ve been riding a ninja 300 for almost a year now. My friend is about to give me his GSXR-1000. Should I ride it right away or should I wait until I’m more experienced? Just asking for opinions.
great video as always. I got to ride my ninja 650r a couple of days before it started snowing. 650cc is big enough for me. I can't wait for it to warm up. I really don't like the sound of the parallel twin, but it's my first bike, and better than no bike.
I love the whole comment about the CBR trilogy lol. That was my original plan, but things have changed. I think 6ft Honda did the same route as you tho. I did R3-Daytona 675R and my liter bike in a couple years might be the ninja or the fireblade. I’m leaning towards the fireblade because they’re notoriously known for their reliability and low weight compared to the other liter bikes. Loving the 2017 fireblade though. It was actually the Daytona 675R vs the fireblade for me back in February. I opted for the D675R bc I’ve only ridden 10 months with the R3 and I didn’t feel quite as ready with the liter. Sat on it though and it feels very planted and comfortable ergos compared to the D675R. Maybe one day.
I agree with you CC, don't skip the 600.. you want "full spectrum" experience. The 600 is better than the 1000 for certain jobs.. and 1000 is better than the 600 at other jobs.. its just different.
The only thing about having a liter (and/or 1000cc+) bike on the street, is it ALWAYS wants to go. You can try to put it off and try to somehow NOT give in to temptation, but its hard to quench that innate need for speed that they have. Either way, it it a lot funner to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow.
Awesome video mate and the way you are riding it is showing you are respecting your machine not abusing the power of it its very good that what makes a successful rider and riding is smooth
i have. 2015 750 gsxr ecu/power box in a pipe /k&n air and I have not lost a race to a 1000 yet every thousand I race I smoke I got my heads port and Polished running it smoking anything in sight will not anything but anything stock
What 1000 you've got??? Don't tell me a non-superbike! Of course a 600 could be more fun than a 1000cc street fighter, but 1000cc superbikes are were they at!!!
I have much respect with cops. Media shows bad, we only want to look up bad cops because it's entertaining. Looking up good/cool cops is actually cool! Also I ride with 2 cops :P they like to go fast lol which is crazy! He says when he's off duty he's also a human being just like me lol so I was like sweeeeet
I think theres pretty much only two reasons to own a liter bike. 1. For the "image". You want to look cool, be cool, feel like a man. There are a lot of things mens do and buy to bump their ego, motorcycles are one of them. 2. You regularly do track days and racing events like that and are experienced and skilled enough to need a liter bike. You said you liked the extra torque it gives you. Perfectly valid. But after admitting that people buy liter bikes for the "image" you kinda answered the question of what kind of bike you really need. Supersports aren't meant to be cruised around. They're track bikes, meant to ridden hard. People don't seem to realize they'd enjoy riding more on a V2 naked bike or a 3 cylinder or any street oriented bike. These bikes offer so much more thrill in legal ways. Hard to believe a 100hp bike can feel as fast as a 180hp bike and be as fun? Any thoughts? (for refrence: I own a 450 supermoto and consider getting a big V2, something like a KTM 990)
RsEramies What makes a supersport great as a street bike is it's superior power-to-weight ratio. I love the power off the line and power on the highway, being able to quickly power out of trouble at 70 mph. Also, current supersports usually have much better adjustable suspension than the budget bikes and other type of bikes, so it's great on the street and great at the track. For me, the supersport is an all-in-one bike for me and I also enjoy the aggressive riding position, especially on the twisties. Also, sound is very important to me and the inline 4 has the best sound to me, 50% of my riding enjoyment comes from the sound of the motorcycle. Singles, twins and triples just don't do it for my sound-wise, however, I do love the sound of the harleys but they are such heavy beasts and usually have poor brakes. As far as the liter bike, it's totally unnecessary, I only got mine for the experience, however I love this cbr1000rr.
My first bike is a 1050cc and I've ridden in all kinds of conditions on all kinds of streets. I've had the bike less than a year and I love it! I don't miss the 600 I never had really. Of course I have a 450 dirt bike I love too. So any opinion is good, just find a bike you love and go rip!
Is it the 1050cc a superbike? If not, 1000cc+ cruisers can be slower than 250cc sportbikes. That 1800cc Harley Breakout felt slower than that cbr250r I used to own.
CycleCruza It's a Triumph Speed Triple, so hell yeah it's fast! Of course I have the advantage of living at the edge of town so I started out learning on country roads. I do think a bike with that much power would be pointless on city streets and stop and go. If I lived in the middle of a city I would probably go for the 675 Street Triple instead. Triumph Triples have tons of low end torque, so that makes a difference in how you can handle the power too.
Great vid cruza. I started on a 500cc carbed and a couple of months later I got a 600cc f4i. I started on a 500cc because I wanted to get the confidence of a smaller bike. I say now I should of started with a 600cc but I am glad I went up slowly. Yes, I guess I can also get a 1000cc now but with 600cc's is more then enough. I still haven't used all of the potential of the f4i.
I started on a Vulcan 500 it's a parallel twin cruiser but it's not one of those big fat ones it's 0-60 time was 5.5 and I could hit that with ease then I bought a gsx 550 cause I moved and couldn't afford a. 600 yet I'm about to get a zx6 and I feel that if you start on a smaller bike you really become a better rider in the long run
Patron022 You were smart to start small, best way to start , imo. The 600 is all you need but eventually you will be curious about the liter bikes like I was.
im looking at getting a cbr600rr im only 16 i own a honda grom lol but i rode my buddy's r6 the other day. and i didn't get over 110 but i know what it feels like now to be able to cruise and not worry about highways and not having to pull over to let a car pass me feels good.
you make some great points and a valid argument. What I will say is this. I have raced both the R6 and the R1 as an expert in the CCS class and a privateer in the AMA years ago. What I can say after years of racing is either of the bikes or any modern day 600 or 1000 has way way more potential then 99% of the street riders out there a capable of using. You can absolutely hammer the living shit out of these bikes lap after lap and they still have way more in them then even most racers can use. Going out and carving up a canyon on your modern day 600 or 1000 you may think you are pushing that thing to the max but your not. You are not even close.I guess at the end of the day whatever bike is comfortable and fun for you to ride is the bike for you
Haven't ridden in years. Last bike was an 03 r6 which I sold about 4 years ago. Looking to get back into it and can't decide 600 or 1000. The 1000 is tempting because more power, but I know the 600 is already enough.
In response to this video, I totally agreed with everything you said EXCEPT at 8:30, you said "I love my 600rr, that's why I didn't sell it". Actually, you did put your CBR600RR on eBay for sale, asking for $7000, but couldn't because nobody buys it. This happened a while ago. C'mon CycleCruza
Jimmy Giang Putting up a bike for sale and actually going through with the sale are two different things. lol Actually, I put it on EBay twice! lol The first time it sold for $7k, second time it sold for $7k but I I couldn't follow through. with the sale.
I agree with alot of what you were saying first off. Really the only reason why I have an R1 is that i'm 6'4 and 600's just don't cut it. I learned to ride on an 04 R6 and loved it. The agility is alot quicker than my R1 for instance. There is alot of things I learned on the 600 that I may not have picked up so quickly of the liter bike. I've always recommended people to learn on a 600 then move up is that's what you want to do.
I don't know what 600 you're thinking of but an r6 will do well over the UK 70mph limit in first gear so the argument that you can rev a 600 to its max without getting in trouble doesn't make any sense to me. and while there's a big enough difference in the prices of new bikes, after a few years there's very little difference. insurance will be an issue for younger riders, but not when you're a bit older. The way I see sports bikes is as a fair weather toy, and if you're buying a bike as a toy you may as well get the fastest most exciting one you can, and the extra flexibility and top end of the bigger bike is worth having. in most cases the litre models have higher quality suspension and brakes too. and there's no noticable difference in weight either so you can't chuck a 600 about any better than a litre bike either, dry weight of 05 r6 is 166kg, dry weight of 04 cbr 954 is 168kg, and if you can notice an extra 2 kg you should be riding moto gp. Get a 1000 and be happy
ive had a ninja 300 for a few years and i really want to skip to a s1000rr for all the luxury bits of it like comfy seat, heated grips, and cruse control. honestly i wish there was a decent 600 supersport with the same stuff.
CC you are in my mind man! I am looking to upgrade to a 600, video about the different 600s. Was wondering maybe skiping the 600 kaboom new video! Cheers man
My first bike is a suzuki gsxr 750 2006 and I just bought the 2015 new. I wanted a liter bike but I thought I don't need that extra power. I did test ride a couple of liter bikes and there wasted a huge difference.
Unless you can competently flat tap a 600cc out then yes, get a liter bike. I see far more guys on liter bikes just trying to get from point A to B alive learning ZERO skills about the art of riding having no fun whatsoever. These "riders" are generally the ones we're inside cutting through the twisties. Not to mention, supersports can go through the corners well over 200km/h which 99% of non track riders ever achieve.
One day in 2008 the pigs had the highway blocked off (backing up traffic for a few miles). When I reached the front of the roadblock, I found out that they where harassing bikers, automatically giving tickets for white lining, harassing me because my bike was paid in full and they wanted it to be stolen. When I went to fight the ticket it was like the pigs & the judge where a tag team. The pig lied saying he followed every biker and observed them white lining (I remember a few of the bikers, we were on the side of the highway talking about what the pigs were doing for a while that day). The false, bullshit lie from the pigs stuck and the judge gave me points + almost $300. fine for something I could not do even if I wanted because I was such a novice at the time. That sealed the deal and made me realize that in NYS your better off ditching the bike. Police will HATE ON YOUR ASS AROUND THE CLOCK!... and the judge will be more than happy to assist the pigs at fucking you over. I sold my YZF-R6 cheap with everything a few months later. I want to buy a CBR 1000rr but fuck that. I don't have time for that bullshit. I'll stick to cars & trucks.
ask to see the dash cam hire a lawyer there's ways out of it I'm not going to quit riding just because a pig's a pig but screw New York State I'll stay in Florida
Basically, all of the current japanese and euro 600's have good mid-range power these days. Currently, the only 600 that still has weak mid-range power compared to all of the 600's is the yamaha R6. The two best 600's that make better street bikes is the 2007-2015 cbr600rr and the 2007+ Suzuki gsxr 600. I did a video talking about all of the japanese 600's here: ruclips.net/video/qguznTUk12c/видео.html
I started on a 1k fireblade, it's do-able, as long as you use your brains and throttle control. Loved it how people made me scared for my choice, but i must say it isn't that bad as people want to make you believe. If you have good self discipline, buy a litre bike, period.
Been watching ur vids for almost 1 week or less. I live in that kind of city that might have porsches and ferraris, but just 3 or 4 super bikes and 3 harley cruising type bikes. By watching your videos, i am starting to like motorcycling. Im now just 16, turning to 17, but i would want a cbr 600 so bad. And im willing to start saving from now, to later get a good one. Im new in this field, but i can tell right away that i am not the kind of douchebag who will do stunts and speed. Thats why i am in a dilema, of a sport cruiser, a dual purpouse, or a supersport. What would you recommend me?
Have u Tried Triumph Daytona 675 it will change ur perception Torq Acc.ride and handling also mpG less in Liter Bike 600CC is sweet spot b/w performance and MPG
I've raced motocross a big majority of my life, but I'm 23 and I have a career now. So that said im starting to grow towards the street bike scene. But I'm stuck between the torque of the naked bikes and the look. But Also I love that sound of a super sport. Iv never road a street bike before. But iv been really researching and thinking very hard for a year or so now. Where I'm trying to get at here is how do I know what to look for on buying a bike. With dirt bikes I know a good bit about what to look for. But with street bikes they go by miles vs hours. So do yo I have a video that covers these subjects?
So I started out on a 1997 GSXR 750 when I turned 16 (I bought it used from Craigslist and literally paid every dime to get that bike on the road) I didn't know how to use it at all but I've come a long way because of 3 reasons. 1, I restricted myself to only riding back roads and neighborhood until I knew how to use it. 2, the cylinder head cracked so I had to repair it myself over 8 long months of RUclips videos and online manuals and ordering parts.... And 3 because I got a ticket doing triple digits..... After this I was much more cautious on the bike and did not speed as much. I learned to enjoy it for what it is and focused on being a good driver(rider) on the road. There's nothing more I hate than someone who's being an asshole on the road and I didn't want to be that asshole. I quickly learned how to use the bike and did over 4,000 miles in just 6 months of riding time. I feel as though I've progressed in every way because I've learned how they work and I've learned how to harness this pure power.... But also, I didn't have many friends at high school and didn't really care to be like everyone else that goes to parties and smokes/drinks all day. I wanted to be myself and do y own fuckin thing and having a crazy fast bike was my thing. Having a sportbike in 10th grade was fucking cool. It wasn't so much the macho guy feeling, I tried to not act like the guy in the video haha he was a douche, but what got me the most was that it was the feeling of being exclusive... Not many people have the chance to experience these great machines and that's what I love the most. I also love being in a group or family or people that are alike me, and the biker community gave me a sense of security like no matter what, someone would have my back if everything else was wrong. Recently I traded it for a 2002 GSXR 1000 with a blown motor (he threw in some cash too) so I have my replacement motor from eBay on the way and I'll be back on the road soon. Been two months since I rode. I think I'm a rather worthy rider at only age 17... This year I'll be a senior in Highschook and I'm doing a program called the career center and I'm choosing powersports mechanics. You get to bring in your own dirtbikes and ATVs but of course I'll be bringing my GSXR... I think this will be another great opportunity to learn more about motor sports in every aspect. After bootcamp next year (USMC) I plan on buying a brand new bike. I've thought of going to college for business math and opening my own dealership or mechanics shop and learning more about all kinds of bikes and other powers port equipment. Still not quite sure of my plans in the future.... But I am definitely going to be a certified aviation mechanic/door gunner for the U.S Marine Corps. Anyways, back to the video... My thoughts are that there is no true answer to which bike to get first because everyone's preferences and experiences will vary. For me, I like supersports because of riding position, it looks very sharp, and I do love the torque as mentioned. Makes a huge difference to have instant throttle response. You literally feel each and every move you make (brakes, throttle, steer, lean) to such a great extent and its an amazing experience. I taught my father how to ride and he got a c50t suzuki boulevard 800cc cruiser. It's not comfortable for me to ride because of my body style, I feel more comfortable on sportbikes. Cruisers hurt my ass/back and I don't feel in control of the bike at all. What's your thoughts and opinions on me as a biker and a person I suppose? I love these videos.
im looking at upgrading to a cbr600rr coming from a drz 400 motard. Do you think this is a good move? I feel its a big leap and learning curve, but that's what life's all about. If you use incorrect body position on the 600 can you come off easily?
This video wasn't for new riders looking to start on a 600 or 1000, this video was riders already riding the small bike looking to move up to the supersport. Imo, avoid starting on a supersport, you will make mistakes and a small bike will allow for errors and help build confidence. Also, the experience going through the power classes is half of the fun. The 'in between class' bikes are good bikes but way to fast for new riders.
I am 180 cm and 120lb, i bought ducati 959 panigale as my first bike and i rode it pretty well. My point is it depends on person. Some people can start a liter bike, but some cannot handle a liter bike.
Question CycleCruza: if you think you shouldn't skip a 600 and get a liter bike, why is it I have watched quite a few videos of yours and your always on your 1000?
Hi CycleCruza! I know its an old post, but asking for your advise here because its most relevant. Is it same for cruiser bikes? Should I get small cruiser class first (650-800cc) or skip to medium (900-1200) or go straight to big boys shaft-driven (1300-2000) ? My mates keep telling I'll be slow as a snail on 650 and won't be able to overtake anyone on motorway, that i will feel on 650 like im on 125. I have to work extra job to save for big bike and don't want to end up feeling that i should've waited and saved more after a week if i got 650. Currently i ride learners Honda CB125F (GLR125 in US). My next bike will be my first big bike, but i defo want a cruiser, I like low gravity centre and low seat height and of course badassness of cruisers. Also - Japanese, Euro or H-D Sportster? Thank you!!!
When an experienced liter bike rider is riding a liter bike, what portion of the time is he/she riding on "tip toes" I don't think this question has been addressed on these "liter'bike videos
Honestly, I'm perfectly fine with by CBR500r. It's perfect for me and my uses and it does super well on the streets. I'm already faster that most cars anyway on it... I love my 500 and I really don't feel I need to go any higher.
@@nicolasliberatore3596 dudeeee me tooo that’s the bike in my profile pic .. I love my bike but I want a 1000 to do wheelies in 4th and 5th gear plus I’m gonna be traveling so I want less scream in my ear on the highway
Got a 1000cc cruiser bike the other day from a friend at the price of twenty-four thousand. Figured at least I wont be as miserable if dropped. Keep up the vids.
Cruiser 1000 and a superbike 1000 are like night and day. Cruiser 1000 can be nearly equivalent to the power of a ninja 300 or even slower. I was just referring to superbikes. That Harley Breakout I recently test rode has a 1800cc twin engine and that bike felt slower than the cbr250r that I used to have. Thanks for watching!
I started out on my father's VTX 1800, a big V-Twin cruiser. I am used to the weight and have ridden around 300 miles on it so far. Would a liter bike be that big of a jump from the 1800?
Fernando Ramirez it most certainly will be easier to drive... Much lighter as you know, so brakes stop you much faster, the 1000cc engine will take off a hell of alot faster.. cruiser bikes might have huge motors, but they are far from performance oriented. Turning will feel so easy compared to a big cruiser
I 've been riding off road all my life .I bought a cbr500r for my first bike and I 've got around 1000 miles on it . As far as comfort I'll keep it for commuting but I m ready for something else to get a little excitement every know and then do I m torn between 1000cc or 600cc any advice is well appreciated
Hi cyclecruza, I was wondering if you can please do a video on "tankslapper ", why it happens and how to prevent it. Or any other information you can provide.
in my area the 600 & 1000 prices are so similar its like a $100- $200 difference for used that alone makes me want to skip a 600 after i get rid of my r3 but im scared the 1000s are too much for me because of my height (5'2) & i know the 1000s are harder to turn in the twisties than my r3.
People always talk about it like '*can* I ride a liter bike?' Eh, sure, you *can* ride one, as long as you have some self control and aren't a total klutz. It's more about *should* you get one. Is there any point? You'll learn more and progress much faster on a smaller bike as you can actually concentrate on things other than just managing the power, and when a 250/650 twin/600 bites back, it's not so hard and you can push them much harder and make mistakes without it spitting you off or going wide or locking up. So if you're about riding well and improving your skills, don't bother. If you're about sitting in a Starbucks carpark having dick measuring contests, go for it. I suppose the new crop of superbikes are easier to ride with all the electronics, but I think that makes it even worse for a first bike, you're really not going to learn anything if the bike is doing everything for you. It's still massive overcompensation. The high end superbikes are so expensive now, if you drop it, sorry, *when* you drop it, the bill will be eye watering, I'll wager a set of Panigale or R1M fairing is much more expensive than for a GSX-R 600 or something.
I am thinking about buying a 2001 zx12r for $2500 is needs some work done to it but the motor is good has 28,000 miles on it do you think this is a good deal?
+jwillrb Its Okay Deal...... Better than my deal last month when I got ripped off for$1500 for a bike on a fake e-bay site...... I'm so sick about that.
I have a 2009 Kymco 125 peoples looking to to sell for $1000 and hop on a 1989 Honda cbr 600 with 27k on it for a first sport bike,if you look at my videos you will see my Kymco and how i ride what do you think?
The 636 has a higher top speed and is easier to handle. The ninja 1000 has way more bottom end torque but heavy. If curves and agility is your thing get the 636. If you just like to cruise and maybe do long rides get the Ninja 1000. Just my opinion.
i rode the 600, it was great, i couldnt stand the really high rev at 65-70 granted i had loud pipes, but i would like to just cruz, and i feel a 1k would be a better cruizer and more comfatable ride on the highway
I cruise on both the 600 and 1000 fine. I actually prefer the 600 on long highway trips because it gets better fuel efficiency than my 1000 and it has a fuel gauge.
For short distance messing about or commuting yes get a 600cc, it's plenty. If you're planning long distance touring get a 1000cc. 1000cc's are big heavy bikes, so you need to be the right frame, and mental attitude, to cope with a 1000cc (litre) bike.
***** liter bikes these days are only about 35-40 lbs more than the 600's. Sport touring liter bikes are heavier and great for long distance riding like the kawasaki ninja 1000.
It also depends on the manufacturer. I've found Honda bikes are much more heavier than an equivalent Yamaha for example. My main point is, you can't go for a big bike if you are a small person and not capable of holding the weight. Having to be on tip-toes while sat on the bike is not great. You need to be able to plant both feet firmly on the ground and be able to take some of the bikes weight if it leans. You wouldn't buy shoes that are too big, so why buy a bike that's too big for a persons frame size.
***** You got it the other way around, hondas are usually lighter than yamahas. 2012-2014 honda cbr1000rr weighs only 441 lbs wet and the 2012-2014 yamaha r1 weighs 454 lbs! The R1 is the heaviest of the most liter bikes. What honda bikes are heavier? Hondas usually always have the lightest bikes of the japanese bikes. My cbr600rr is still the lightest 600cc in production.
When I was looking for a bike to suit my needs I was looking at the Honda VFR 800 and the Triumph Sprint ST 1050. The VFR is 20lb heavier than the Sprint, and when the Sprint has an extra 200cc's it's actually a surprise that the Sprint is lighter. The Honda CBR 650F weighs about 450lb, which isn't that far off the bigger bikes. Weight isn't a bad issue, as the heavier a bike is the more planted on the road it is. The thing is, is the rider able to cope with that weight. My wife is short 5'2" and only weighs 8 stone (112lb). She tried sitting on my Triumph and her feet couldn't even touch the floor, and even if they could I doubt she would of had the strength to hold the bike upright if needed. I'm just kinda underlining the fact that people shouldn't get a bike that is far too big for them. Get a bike that you are comfortable to sit on and make sure it fits your needs.
The clip of you hauling ass on the 600 and yelling "FUCK!!!" is golden. I feel that way riding too man.
98SST It's a euphoric feeling. lol
This decision can be summed up easily....
You can ride a 1000 like it's a 600 but you can't ride a 600 like it's a 1000..
600: 0-280 km/h in well over 30 seconds.
1000: 0-300 km/h in less than 18 seconds.
I ride a Gixxer1000 because I've ridden them all and now wanna relax and just be in 3rd gear like an automatic, lol,
When do you need to drive 280-300 km/h on a regular road? When the speed limit usually is 120-130 km/h tops, no matter what country you live in. (not even Germany)
Because of you I own 3 bikes:
2009 Quantya Strada
2011 CBR600RR
2014 Zero SR
They are all fun and I can´t sell one.
Dennis3Run sounds like my garage.. i have an old 2003 SV1000, then a 09 CBR1000rr. Love them both very much and i now want a 3rd bike for the track/insane curvy mtn road riding. thinking of a KTM RC8 which has always been a dream bike. lol good thing bike collecting is so much cheaper than car collecting. can go buy 3 bikes for the cost of 1 car
+Dennis3Run I am a Kawasaki fan, but I liked your comment because of the rhyme..I'm also a poet..and a troll, but mostly a troll. :D
If you're going 150, you're not stopping.
I think the biggest issue with going up to 1000cc is not skill level, but maturity. Most people coming off a 250cc are more than likely going to be young, and anyone over the age of 30 will remember how much they liked to roar around at a billion mph in whatever shitbox vehicle they had at the time at that age. Give someone like that a superbike, and it can be a recipe for disaster.
Generally speaking that is 😃
i test rode a 2005 cbr1000rr today im thinking about buying and ill tell you that i didnt need to go over 15mph to see a significant difference from my zzr600. in my opinion you should do a test ride before you buy especially if your coming from a 300 or lower, if you test ride i guarantee the answer will be clear lol. but i will say i started on a 600 but i took the MSF and had my dad train me for like a month in a huge parking lot before i went to the streets. cyclecruzas videos have probably kept me alive, like honestly. listen to the safe riders like cyclecruza and if you dont agree with some stuff he says, thats cool, but over time you will see how right he is. ride safe everyone!
i know im 8 years late to the party but your edits showing comparisons are so nice, and still ring true
Li-ter-bike
+Hennessey Productions ruclips.net/video/IINPday-HAU/видео.html
LOL well played
+CycleCruza you saying litre (which is the english spelling) is like me saying Aluminium to you, just super weird to how people actually say it which is more like leeda (or leeta), and for you, people say aluminum, so if i get up in your grill going aluminIUM this and aluminIUM that, you'll be like haha this kids on crack xD
good vid though bro.
+Hennessey Productions lol well played but nobody ever emphasizes the t in regular speech, so it does sound funny.
Tomato tamato who cares
I went from a 1985 Honda Shadow 500 (Cruiser) to a 1986 Yamaha YX600 (Cruiser) To a 2000 Yamaha R1 (Rocket) and i couldn't be happier.
I love my speedy lil baby
cycle cruza. Thank you for all the help and input. I have been watching for awhile now. Just bought a 09 cbr 600rr and I love it. keep it up bro
I went from never having ridden a bike.... to passing my full licence and owning a cbr1000rr in 2 months.... as long as you've got a sensible head, it's absolutely fine.
I agree. Long as you give yourself time with your bike n master your throttle theres really nothing to worry about.
At the end of they day, you do what ever you want. But developing your riding should be your main priority on any bike. Small bikes will always make people better riders. Slowly working your way up the cc is the best way. Getting ever closer to riding most of a bikes potential. Not just riding around in stop and go traffic getting used to the power and saying I'm bored time for more power, bikes have so much more to offer than that. If you can't have fun on a 125 you won't on a 600+ bike.
my first bike is a cbr 1000rr repsol and i love it!
Still going well I hope
You will never drive a Toyota Corolla to it’s full potential, but a corvette is fun and has the power when you want it.
stop pronouncing liter so weird
"Leeeee-ter" bike
he probably says that because other people say "leader bike" which isn't the right way to say it...
He says it like that because its english and he has a brain in which functions properly, unlike some dumbasses who say it as if theyre saying leader bike T is pronounced T not D
Hey man that's a spot on vid. Im a 600 guy, but i rode the 1000. My experience was like:
Yeah the pull is cool, but its not necessary on the streets. So i just stayed with my R6.
And people always give me shit like: yeah is a 600. And that's people who ride GS-s.. So yeah... I dont even bother
why do you say liter leet-er
I got a zx14r as my first bike. Sick ass bike bro.
man, this guy is actually reallly cool. I'm new to bikes and just from this I learned more about bikes!
Good Commentary Cruza! All of your Videos are informational, entertaining and help me get through the workday! Keep it up!
Awesome video man :D I'm lookin at a 2008 CBR 600rr because of the increase in power. I hope it runs good!
? For u bro. Ive been riding dirt bikes for a while from 125cc to 500+CC Race bikes. In planing on buying a motorcycle. But cant decide on size. 600 bc its my first street bike or 1000 and just put on low power until i get used to the ride?
Excellent review great opinions everything you said was spot on. A lot of beginners always want a large bike because they are afraid of not keeping up with the other sport bikes and seasoned riders but I always tell people start with a smaller cc bike and gradually work your way to a larger cc bike or a liter bike
I love the way 600cc sounds like
I'm actually thinking of upgrading from my "starter" bike, which is a cbr500r. It's a phenomenal bike. I love it. The only problem is highway speeds. That's the only area that it's really lacking. One of the things that gives me pause with the 600s is the fact that they have to be so high up in the RPMs to actually make power. (I'm also not a fan of that "scream.") I'm almost thinking going to a liter bike makes more sense at this point, especially after thousands of miles of not just honing my skills, but having torque on tap at all times with the twin engine. If that makes sense.
if you dont like scream skip the supersports
That's kind of what I'm thinking. Here's my dilemma. I LOVE the low/middle end of the 500. It's BUTTER. Smooth as silk for scooting around town, but I'd like just a LITTLE more punch for passing in highway situations. I can do it mind you, but at that point, I'm pretty close to/at redline.
90% of people most likeley cant use the fall potential of a 600cc on a track. i know i cant. lol dam i want some lesson on how to lean. been riding for 10 years now. had a cbr250rr and a 600rr love hondas
I’ve been riding a ninja 300 for almost a year now. My friend is about to give me his GSXR-1000. Should I ride it right away or should I wait until I’m more experienced? Just asking for opinions.
Don't forget Suzuki GSXR 750. Another great option especially for the street! I have one and I absolutely love it.
Night Rider
great video as always. I got to ride my ninja 650r a couple of days before it started snowing. 650cc is big enough for me. I can't wait for it to warm up. I really don't like the sound of the parallel twin, but it's my first bike, and better than no bike.
650R was my first bike. Hated the twin sound as well... 4 bikes later and I still miss that thing and I ride an R1 now. Good choice man.
I love the whole comment about the CBR trilogy lol. That was my original plan, but things have changed. I think 6ft Honda did the same route as you tho. I did R3-Daytona 675R and my liter bike in a couple years might be the ninja or the fireblade. I’m leaning towards the fireblade because they’re notoriously known for their reliability and low weight compared to the other liter bikes. Loving the 2017 fireblade though. It was actually the Daytona 675R vs the fireblade for me back in February. I opted for the D675R bc I’ve only ridden 10 months with the R3 and I didn’t feel quite as ready with the liter. Sat on it though and it feels very planted and comfortable ergos compared to the D675R. Maybe one day.
I agree with you CC, don't skip the 600.. you want "full spectrum" experience. The 600 is better than the 1000 for certain jobs.. and 1000 is better than the 600 at other jobs.. its just different.
now.. got out and get a cheap Buell XB12S and race mod it.. then get back with us. he he
Gloomshadow100 The Buells are nice!
The only thing about having a liter (and/or 1000cc+) bike on the street, is it ALWAYS wants to go. You can try to put it off and try to somehow NOT give in to temptation, but its hard to quench that innate need for speed that they have. Either way, it it a lot funner to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow.
Awesome video mate and the way you are riding it is showing you are respecting your machine not abusing the power of it its very good that what makes a successful rider and riding is smooth
i have. 2015 750 gsxr ecu/power box in a pipe /k&n air and I have not lost a race to a 1000 yet every thousand I race I smoke I got my heads port and Polished running it smoking anything in sight will not anything but anything stock
Had an R6 for many years, riding a 1000 now. The R6 was way more fun.
+Jorge Libs you could toss the R6 around and side to side easily. The 1000 even with suspension adjustments wants you to push it around.
+You Toob No way lol. I rode on an S1000RR and that thing just goes where you want it. Easily flickable.
S1000rr's are stupid light, though.
What 1000 you've got??? Don't tell me a non-superbike!
Of course a 600 could be more fun than a 1000cc street fighter, but 1000cc superbikes are were they at!!!
I have much respect with cops. Media shows bad, we only want to look up bad cops because it's entertaining. Looking up good/cool cops is actually cool! Also I ride with 2 cops :P they like to go fast lol which is crazy! He says when he's off duty he's also a human being just like me lol so I was like sweeeeet
I think theres pretty much only two reasons to own a liter bike.
1. For the "image". You want to look cool, be cool, feel like a man. There are a lot of things mens do and buy to bump their ego, motorcycles are one of them.
2. You regularly do track days and racing events like that and are experienced and skilled enough to need a liter bike.
You said you liked the extra torque it gives you. Perfectly valid. But after admitting that people buy liter bikes for the "image" you kinda answered the question of what kind of bike you really need. Supersports aren't meant to be cruised around. They're track bikes, meant to ridden hard. People don't seem to realize they'd enjoy riding more on a V2 naked bike or a 3 cylinder or any street oriented bike. These bikes offer so much more thrill in legal ways. Hard to believe a 100hp bike can feel as fast as a 180hp bike and be as fun? Any thoughts?
(for refrence: I own a 450 supermoto and consider getting a big V2, something like a KTM 990)
RsEramies What makes a supersport great as a street bike is it's superior power-to-weight ratio. I love the power off the line and power on the highway, being able to quickly power out of trouble at 70 mph. Also, current supersports usually have much better adjustable suspension than the budget bikes and other type of bikes, so it's great on the street and great at the track. For me, the supersport is an all-in-one bike for me and I also enjoy the aggressive riding position, especially on the twisties. Also, sound is very important to me and the inline 4 has the best sound to me, 50% of my riding enjoyment comes from the sound of the motorcycle. Singles, twins and triples just don't do it for my sound-wise, however, I do love the sound of the harleys but they are such heavy beasts and usually have poor brakes. As far as the liter bike, it's totally unnecessary, I only got mine for the experience, however I love this cbr1000rr.
My first bike is a 1050cc and I've ridden in all kinds of conditions on all kinds of streets. I've had the bike less than a year and I love it! I don't miss the 600 I never had really. Of course I have a 450 dirt bike I love too. So any opinion is good, just find a bike you love and go rip!
Is it the 1050cc a superbike? If not, 1000cc+ cruisers can be slower than 250cc sportbikes. That 1800cc Harley Breakout felt slower than that cbr250r I used to own.
CycleCruza It's a Triumph Speed Triple, so hell yeah it's fast! Of course I have the advantage of living at the edge of town so I started out learning on country roads. I do think a bike with that much power would be pointless on city streets and stop and go. If I lived in the middle of a city I would probably go for the 675 Street Triple instead. Triumph Triples have tons of low end torque, so that makes a difference in how you can handle the power too.
Great vid cruza. I started on a 500cc carbed and a couple of months later I got a 600cc f4i. I started on a 500cc because I wanted to get the confidence of a smaller bike. I say now I should of started with a 600cc but I am glad I went up slowly. Yes, I guess I can also get a 1000cc now but with 600cc's is more then enough. I still haven't used all of the potential of the f4i.
I started on a Vulcan 500 it's a parallel twin cruiser but it's not one of those big fat ones it's 0-60 time was 5.5 and I could hit that with ease then I bought a gsx 550 cause I moved and couldn't afford a. 600 yet I'm about to get a zx6 and I feel that if you start on a smaller bike you really become a better rider in the long run
Patron022 You were smart to start small, best way to start , imo. The 600 is all you need but eventually you will be curious about the liter bikes like I was.
im looking at getting a cbr600rr im only 16 i own a honda grom lol but i rode my buddy's r6 the other day. and i didn't get over 110 but i know what it feels like now to be able to cruise and not worry about highways and not having to pull over to let a car pass me feels good.
you make some great points and a valid argument. What I will say is this. I have raced both the R6 and the R1 as an expert in the CCS class and a privateer in the AMA years ago. What I can say after years of racing is either of the bikes or any modern day 600 or 1000 has way way more potential then 99% of the street riders out there a capable of using. You can absolutely hammer the living shit out of these bikes lap after lap and they still have way more in them then even most racers can use. Going out and carving up a canyon on your modern day 600 or 1000 you may think you are pushing that thing to the max but your not. You are not even close.I guess at the end of the day whatever bike is comfortable and fun for you to ride is the bike for you
Haven't ridden in years. Last bike was an 03 r6 which I sold about 4 years ago. Looking to get back into it and can't decide 600 or 1000. The 1000 is tempting because more power, but I know the 600 is already enough.
big fan of yours man, love your style. most defintely my favorite motovlogger. p.s.: dont change the way you say liter bike, these people just hatin.
In response to this video, I totally agreed with everything you said EXCEPT at 8:30, you said "I love my 600rr, that's why I didn't sell it". Actually, you did put your CBR600RR on eBay for sale, asking for $7000, but couldn't because nobody buys it. This happened a while ago.
C'mon CycleCruza
Jimmy Giang Putting up a bike for sale and actually going through with the sale are two different things. lol Actually, I put it on EBay twice! lol The first time it sold for $7k, second time it sold for $7k but I I couldn't follow through. with the sale.
Hopefully in 4 years I can get a cbr600rr. Hopefully they will do a sick visual change
I fuckin love your channel, you're one of my favorite bike channels.
I agree with alot of what you were saying first off. Really the only reason why I have an R1 is that i'm 6'4 and 600's just don't cut it. I learned to ride on an 04 R6 and loved it. The agility is alot quicker than my R1 for instance. There is alot of things I learned on the 600 that I may not have picked up so quickly of the liter bike. I've always recommended people to learn on a 600 then move up is that's what you want to do.
Me and my wife started on cbr1000rr and both handled it well and still ride
Your videos are dope Man U def have a good head on your shoulders when doing your video blog man
Great video my man, some great points.
I don't know what 600 you're thinking of but an r6 will do well over the UK 70mph limit in first gear so the argument that you can rev a 600 to its max without getting in trouble doesn't make any sense to me. and while there's a big enough difference in the prices of new bikes, after a few years there's very little difference. insurance will be an issue for younger riders, but not when you're a bit older. The way I see sports bikes is as a fair weather toy, and if you're buying a bike as a toy you may as well get the fastest most exciting one you can, and the extra flexibility and top end of the bigger bike is worth having. in most cases the litre models have higher quality suspension and brakes too. and there's no noticable difference in weight either so you can't chuck a 600 about any better than a litre bike either, dry weight of 05 r6 is 166kg, dry weight of 04 cbr 954 is 168kg, and if you can notice an extra 2 kg you should be riding moto gp.
Get a 1000 and be happy
LOL!!! The dude who bragged and then wiped out.Loved the clip.He had a FUCKED UP DAY!!!
the way this guy says "LEE TUR" makes me want to jump out a window
It fucking drives me nuts..
Please, feel free to do that. The world won't miss you if small shit like this pisses you off so much.
Swampster70 good one
I cannot wait to get a 600rr!! Live in the uk so got to wait until I'm 21/22
ive had a ninja 300 for a few years and i really want to skip to a s1000rr for all the luxury bits of it like comfy seat, heated grips, and cruse control. honestly i wish there was a decent 600 supersport with the same stuff.
I LIKE YOUR INFORMATIVE DOCUMENTARIES.
CC you are in my mind man! I am looking to upgrade to a 600, video about the different 600s. Was wondering maybe skiping the 600 kaboom new video! Cheers man
My first bike is a suzuki gsxr 750 2006 and I just bought the 2015 new. I wanted a liter bike but I thought I don't need that extra power. I did test ride a couple of liter bikes and there wasted a huge difference.
Unless you can competently flat tap a 600cc out then yes, get a liter bike. I see far more guys on liter bikes just trying to get from point A to B alive learning ZERO skills about the art of riding having no fun whatsoever. These "riders" are generally the ones we're inside cutting through the twisties. Not to mention, supersports can go through the corners well over 200km/h which 99% of non track riders ever achieve.
One day in 2008 the pigs had the highway blocked off (backing up traffic for a few miles). When I reached the front of the roadblock, I found out that they where harassing bikers, automatically giving tickets for white lining, harassing me because my bike was paid in full and they wanted it to be stolen. When I went to fight the ticket it was like the pigs & the judge where a tag team. The pig lied saying he followed every biker and observed them white lining (I remember a few of the bikers, we were on the side of the highway talking about what the pigs were doing for a while that day). The false, bullshit lie from the pigs stuck and the judge gave me points + almost $300. fine for something I could not do even if I wanted because I was such a novice at the time. That sealed the deal and made me realize that in NYS your better off ditching the bike. Police will HATE ON YOUR ASS AROUND THE CLOCK!... and the judge will be more than happy to assist the pigs at fucking you over. I sold my YZF-R6 cheap with everything a few months later. I want to buy a CBR 1000rr but fuck that. I don't have time for that bullshit. I'll stick to cars & trucks.
ask to see the dash cam hire a lawyer there's ways out of it I'm not going to quit riding just because a pig's a pig but screw New York State I'll stay in Florida
What 600cc bike has the best medium/low power. I've had my ninja 250 for about 6 months and I'm ready to upgrade.
Basically, all of the current japanese and euro 600's have good mid-range power these days. Currently, the only 600 that still has weak mid-range power compared to all of the 600's is the yamaha R6. The two best 600's that make better street bikes is the 2007-2015 cbr600rr and the 2007+ Suzuki gsxr 600. I did a video talking about all of the japanese 600's here: ruclips.net/video/qguznTUk12c/видео.html
so, the same person that was saying that liter bikes are too much for the street and that you'll never use the extra power bought a liter bike???
I started on a 1k fireblade, it's do-able, as long as you use your brains and throttle control. Loved it how people made me scared for my choice, but i must say it isn't that bad as people want to make you believe. If you have good self discipline, buy a litre bike, period.
Been watching ur vids for almost 1 week or less. I live in that kind of city that might have porsches and ferraris, but just 3 or 4 super bikes and 3 harley cruising type bikes. By watching your videos, i am starting to like motorcycling. Im now just 16, turning to 17, but i would want a cbr 600 so bad. And im willing to start saving from now, to later get a good one. Im new in this field, but i can tell right away that i am not the kind of douchebag who will do stunts and speed. Thats why i am in a dilema, of a sport cruiser, a dual purpouse, or a supersport. What would you recommend me?
Have u Tried Triumph Daytona 675 it will change ur perception Torq Acc.ride and handling also mpG less in Liter Bike 600CC is sweet spot b/w performance and MPG
I've raced motocross a big majority of my life, but I'm 23 and I have a career now. So that said im starting to grow towards the street bike scene. But I'm stuck between the torque of the naked bikes and the look. But Also I love that sound of a super sport. Iv never road a street bike before. But iv been really researching and thinking very hard for a year or so now. Where I'm trying to get at here is how do I know what to look for on buying a bike. With dirt bikes I know a good bit about what to look for. But with street bikes they go by miles vs hours. So do yo I have a video that covers these subjects?
So I started out on a 1997 GSXR 750 when I turned 16 (I bought it used from Craigslist and literally paid every dime to get that bike on the road) I didn't know how to use it at all but I've come a long way because of 3 reasons. 1, I restricted myself to only riding back roads and neighborhood until I knew how to use it. 2, the cylinder head cracked so I had to repair it myself over 8 long months of RUclips videos and online manuals and ordering parts.... And 3 because I got a ticket doing triple digits..... After this I was much more cautious on the bike and did not speed as much. I learned to enjoy it for what it is and focused on being a good driver(rider) on the road. There's nothing more I hate than someone who's being an asshole on the road and I didn't want to be that asshole. I quickly learned how to use the bike and did over 4,000 miles in just 6 months of riding time. I feel as though I've progressed in every way because I've learned how they work and I've learned how to harness this pure power.... But also, I didn't have many friends at high school and didn't really care to be like everyone else that goes to parties and smokes/drinks all day. I wanted to be myself and do y own fuckin thing and having a crazy fast bike was my thing. Having a sportbike in 10th grade was fucking cool. It wasn't so much the macho guy feeling, I tried to not act like the guy in the video haha he was a douche, but what got me the most was that it was the feeling of being exclusive... Not many people have the chance to experience these great machines and that's what I love the most. I also love being in a group or family or people that are alike me, and the biker community gave me a sense of security like no matter what, someone would have my back if everything else was wrong. Recently I traded it for a 2002 GSXR 1000 with a blown motor (he threw in some cash too) so I have my replacement motor from eBay on the way and I'll be back on the road soon. Been two months since I rode. I think I'm a rather worthy rider at only age 17... This year I'll be a senior in Highschook and I'm doing a program called the career center and I'm choosing powersports mechanics. You get to bring in your own dirtbikes and ATVs but of course I'll be bringing my GSXR... I think this will be another great opportunity to learn more about motor sports in every aspect. After bootcamp next year (USMC) I plan on buying a brand new bike. I've thought of going to college for business math and opening my own dealership or mechanics shop and learning more about all kinds of bikes and other powers port equipment. Still not quite sure of my plans in the future.... But I am definitely going to be a certified aviation mechanic/door gunner for the U.S Marine Corps. Anyways, back to the video... My thoughts are that there is no true answer to which bike to get first because everyone's preferences and experiences will vary. For me, I like supersports because of riding position, it looks very sharp, and I do love the torque as mentioned. Makes a huge difference to have instant throttle response. You literally feel each and every move you make (brakes, throttle, steer, lean) to such a great extent and its an amazing experience. I taught my father how to ride and he got a c50t suzuki boulevard 800cc cruiser. It's not comfortable for me to ride because of my body style, I feel more comfortable on sportbikes. Cruisers hurt my ass/back and I don't feel in control of the bike at all. What's your thoughts and opinions on me as a biker and a person I suppose? I love these videos.
+mitch rude I read this entire paper lol. That's really cool that you're riding in high school to me. Keep doing you man ...
You got pulled over in triple digits?
mitch rude too long
I'm 16 now and I wanna start on a zx10r!!
Nice video man . Keep up the good work and ride safe.
P.S Honda ROCKS
im looking at upgrading to a cbr600rr coming from a drz 400 motard. Do you think this is a good move? I feel its a big leap and learning curve, but that's what life's all about. If you use incorrect body position on the 600 can you come off easily?
Test ride one and see how you like it. It will be a major adjustment for you but you should probably be ok.
Well what about starting on the "in between class" the 750's, Ducati's , triumphs and so ons.
This video wasn't for new riders looking to start on a 600 or 1000, this video was riders already riding the small bike looking to move up to the supersport. Imo, avoid starting on a supersport, you will make mistakes and a small bike will allow for errors and help build confidence. Also, the experience going through the power classes is half of the fun. The 'in between class' bikes are good bikes but way to fast for new riders.
I am 180 cm and 120lb, i bought ducati 959 panigale as my first bike and i rode it pretty well. My point is it depends on person. Some people can start a liter bike, but some cannot handle a liter bike.
I want one (ducati 959) so bad your right I started on the same bike that cc the cbr1000 it all depends on the wrist control
I want one (ducati 959) so bad your right I started on the same bike that cc the cbr1000 it all depends on the wrist control
Question CycleCruza: if you think you shouldn't skip a 600 and get a liter bike, why is it I have watched quite a few videos of yours and your always on your 1000?
Its more fun to go fast on a slow bike than go slow on a fast bike.
jasonfrang Slow bikes are fun to me, but I love the pull off the line for the bigger bikes. I can have fun a bicycle with a motor though. lol
Hi CycleCruza! I know its an old post, but asking for your advise here because its most relevant. Is it same for cruiser bikes? Should I get small cruiser class first (650-800cc) or skip to medium (900-1200) or go straight to big boys shaft-driven (1300-2000) ? My mates keep telling I'll be slow as a snail on 650 and won't be able to overtake anyone on motorway, that i will feel on 650 like im on 125. I have to work extra job to save for big bike and don't want to end up feeling that i should've waited and saved more after a week if i got 650. Currently i ride learners Honda CB125F (GLR125 in US). My next bike will be my first big bike, but i defo want a cruiser, I like low gravity centre and low seat height and of course badassness of cruisers. Also - Japanese, Euro or H-D Sportster? Thank you!!!
When an experienced liter bike rider is riding a liter bike, what portion of the time is he/she riding on "tip toes"
I don't think this question has been addressed on these "liter'bike videos
Lovin the new intro song lol.
How long did you ride your 250? I have to ride my ninja 300 for 2 years at least in order to be allowed to upgrade to higher cc...
what are you using to vlog? sound quality is really good
what do you think about the 2013-17 Triumph Daytona 675R?
Honestly, I'm perfectly fine with by CBR500r. It's perfect for me and my uses and it does super well on the streets. I'm already faster that most cars anyway on it... I love my 500 and I really don't feel I need to go any higher.
I have the same bike but I feel like it’s slow
@@nicolasliberatore3596 dudeeee me tooo that’s the bike in my profile pic .. I love my bike but I want a 1000 to do wheelies in 4th and 5th gear plus I’m gonna be traveling so I want less scream in my ear on the highway
Got a 1000cc cruiser bike the other day from a friend at the price of twenty-four thousand. Figured at least I wont be as miserable if dropped. Keep up the vids.
Cruiser 1000 and a superbike 1000 are like night and day. Cruiser 1000 can be nearly equivalent to the power of a ninja 300 or even slower. I was just referring to superbikes. That Harley Breakout I recently test rode has a 1800cc twin engine and that bike felt slower than the cbr250r that I used to have. Thanks for watching!
I started out on my father's VTX 1800, a big V-Twin cruiser. I am used to the weight and have ridden around 300 miles on it so far. Would a liter bike be that big of a jump from the 1800?
Fernando Ramirez it most certainly will be easier to drive... Much lighter as you know, so brakes stop you much faster, the 1000cc engine will take off a hell of alot faster.. cruiser bikes might have huge motors, but they are far from performance oriented. Turning will feel so easy compared to a big cruiser
I 've been riding off road all my life .I bought a cbr500r for my first bike and I 've got around 1000 miles on it . As far as comfort I'll keep it for commuting but I m ready for something else to get a little excitement every know and then do I m torn between 1000cc or 600cc any advice is well appreciated
Hi cyclecruza, I was wondering if you can please do a video on "tankslapper ", why it happens and how to prevent it. Or any other information you can provide.
Good suggestion. Thanks.
CycleCruza Hey Cruza, If you can test ride a Kawasaki ZX636R 2013 or newer that would be awesome. Thank You.
I road 600 supersports for years. I just now got my first superbike and still miss my 600s
in my area the 600 & 1000 prices are so similar its like a $100- $200 difference for used that alone makes me want to skip a 600 after i get rid of my r3 but im scared the 1000s are too much for me because of my height (5'2) & i know the 1000s are harder to turn in the twisties than my r3.
People always talk about it like '*can* I ride a liter bike?' Eh, sure, you *can* ride one, as long as you have some self control and aren't a total klutz. It's more about *should* you get one. Is there any point? You'll learn more and progress much faster on a smaller bike as you can actually concentrate on things other than just managing the power, and when a 250/650 twin/600 bites back, it's not so hard and you can push them much harder and make mistakes without it spitting you off or going wide or locking up. So if you're about riding well and improving your skills, don't bother. If you're about sitting in a Starbucks carpark having dick measuring contests, go for it.
I suppose the new crop of superbikes are easier to ride with all the electronics, but I think that makes it even worse for a first bike, you're really not going to learn anything if the bike is doing everything for you. It's still massive overcompensation. The high end superbikes are so expensive now, if you drop it, sorry, *when* you drop it, the bill will be eye watering, I'll wager a set of Panigale or R1M fairing is much more expensive than for a GSX-R 600 or something.
would it be a bad idea to go strait to a 600? obviously i would buy it used but would it be too much power for a beginner?
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I am thinking about buying a 2001 zx12r for $2500 is needs some work done to it but the motor is good has 28,000 miles on it do you think this is a good deal?
+jwillrb Its Okay Deal...... Better than my deal last month when I got ripped off for$1500 for a bike on a fake e-bay site...... I'm so sick about that.
I have a 2009 Kymco 125 peoples looking to to sell for $1000 and hop on a 1989 Honda cbr 600 with 27k on it for a first sport bike,if you look at my videos you will see my Kymco and how i ride what do you think?
Hey Cruza! Did you ever got a chance to ride a GSXR600 and compare how it rides vs your CBR600RR? Thanks!
I think I'll be going for a new Ninja 636 or the Ninja 1000(not the ZX10). If anyone has rode both, what's your take?
The 636 has a higher top speed and is easier to handle. The ninja 1000 has way more bottom end torque but heavy. If curves and agility is your thing get the 636. If you just like to cruise and maybe do long rides get the Ninja 1000. Just my opinion.
i rode the 600, it was great, i couldnt stand the really high rev at 65-70 granted i had loud pipes, but i would like to just cruz, and i feel a 1k would be a better cruizer and more comfatable ride on the highway
I cruise on both the 600 and 1000 fine. I actually prefer the 600 on long highway trips because it gets better fuel efficiency than my 1000 and it has a fuel gauge.
For short distance messing about or commuting yes get a 600cc, it's plenty. If you're planning long distance touring get a 1000cc. 1000cc's are big heavy bikes, so you need to be the right frame, and mental attitude, to cope with a 1000cc (litre) bike.
***** liter bikes these days are only about 35-40 lbs more than the 600's. Sport touring liter bikes are heavier and great for long distance riding like the kawasaki ninja 1000.
It also depends on the manufacturer. I've found Honda bikes are much more heavier than an equivalent Yamaha for example. My main point is, you can't go for a big bike if you are a small person and not capable of holding the weight. Having to be on tip-toes while sat on the bike is not great. You need to be able to plant both feet firmly on the ground and be able to take some of the bikes weight if it leans. You wouldn't buy shoes that are too big, so why buy a bike that's too big for a persons frame size.
***** You got it the other way around, hondas are usually lighter than yamahas. 2012-2014 honda cbr1000rr weighs only 441 lbs wet and the 2012-2014 yamaha r1 weighs 454 lbs! The R1 is the heaviest of the most liter bikes. What honda bikes are heavier? Hondas usually always have the lightest bikes of the japanese bikes. My cbr600rr is still the lightest 600cc in production.
When I was looking for a bike to suit my needs I was looking at the Honda VFR 800 and the Triumph Sprint ST 1050. The VFR is 20lb heavier than the Sprint, and when the Sprint has an extra 200cc's it's actually a surprise that the Sprint is lighter. The Honda CBR 650F weighs about 450lb, which isn't that far off the bigger bikes. Weight isn't a bad issue, as the heavier a bike is the more planted on the road it is. The thing is, is the rider able to cope with that weight. My wife is short 5'2" and only weighs 8 stone (112lb). She tried sitting on my Triumph and her feet couldn't even touch the floor, and even if they could I doubt she would of had the strength to hold the bike upright if needed. I'm just kinda underlining the fact that people shouldn't get a bike that is far too big for them. Get a bike that you are comfortable to sit on and make sure it fits your needs.
***** oh ok, I was just referring to the supersports. I'm not really all that familiar with their other bikes.
Hey Cycle Cruza whats your opinion about the Honda Blackbird 1100xx i would really like too get it and its affardable just 2k
I dropped a tooth on the front to give my 600 more torque. Definitely made a difference
love your reviews!
Hey CC I don't think I like the look of these bikes. Going to get the cbr 650f
Cycle Cruza you are the GOAT 🐐