Anyone who turns their brain off while motorcycling might be in for a bad day, unless your on a single lane road out in the middle of nowhere, and thats assuming no animals jump out in front of you.
Yeap you never turn your brain off I think he meant that its less stress because a Sportbike is far more rigid and even a small bit of gravel sends the handling sketchy and twitchy. Where as a triumph tiger or gs can just ride through bad surface and you dont have to do anything the set up is made to ride thro all terrains. I think thats what he is getting at.
lol I turned off my brain when doing the most basic part turning it on lil gas clutch out roll away, well my brain dumped clutch and stalled then slowly dumped bike while over extending my leg to save it lol. The first time i've ever dumped my bike and in the dumbest way possible.
youve never rode a cruiser or goldwing lol. Brain off in the sense you don't have to worry about much because you're just riding with the flow of traffic
It's not turn off the brain. What he means is that as compared to the attention span of 1000 supersport, it is "like" a turn off the brain. Let's not nitpick
Wise man👍🏻 60mph that too in a controlled situation just think about an inexperienced guy jumping on this ...he would be signing his death warrant basically the first gears are really tall in these bikes they go upto 90-100mph that too very rapidly.
i just did the msf course 2 weeks ago i learned and passed the class on a 250cc bike ! i bought a 1100cc bike bmw sport cruiser bike right after . you can definitely go fast if you want to ! but u can also cruise i went riding with some honda groms and they dusted me lol i was crusing with the guys on the scooters 😂 but if i wanted to i coulldve left em all in the dust
@@AllTheRamenOnTheSky riding has alot to do with confidence. it sounds like u lack confidence in your riding ability/ just dont pull the throttle all the way if ur scared of going fast ( plus u need to be in like 3rd gear+ to get to any fastt speeed so just stay in second lol just keep riding and youll gain confidence . but if ur not confident dont hop on it . piece and
I’ve been riding since I was 4-5 years old, I’m glad someone is giving proper advice without trying to sell something. Always wanted a 1000cc but no one could explain exactly what you did to me.
Bro lol… if you been riding since u we’re 4 or 5 and still haven’t jumped on a 1000cc then what are u doing… Don’t be afraid, be confident. If you have the experience riding since 4 years old you could easily jump on any bike u wanted. I been riding since I was about 8 or 9 and the only bike I’ve jumped on tht had “to much power” was a very early 2000s 250cc that just had insane torque everything after market..and the bike was stupid light. But I’ve jumped on 1000cc street bikes tht will never compare street bikes is a cake walk compared to a torquey ass dirtbike that is half the weight.. I’m no pro rider I don’t even wheelie but I got confidence on handling pretty much any bike.. if u know how to ride u can ride anything u want fr..
@@HanJukes Typical dick measuring. I've been riding for nearly 30yrs and never felt the desire to buy a liter bike. 600 class is all around far more useable and fun. There's no such thing as "outgrowing them" unless you are a professional racer.
@@HanJukes although I agree with you, its good that people should know their limits. if he been riding his whole life and still doesn't want a 1000 then he is probably correct on his judgement. know thyself lol. I feel like the video creator is over exaggerating on the powerband, but then again there's a lot of dipshits out there. I've also only driven a cbr1000 as a sportbike ( started on a cruiser) so maybe his gxr 1000 is way more powerful/sensitive, I've never tried.
@@HanJukesunless he's going to the racetrack there is literally no reason for him to own a 1000cc bike. The one other exception would be if he's wanting to ride with a passenger plus a crap ton of cargo.
Here is a story to not overestimate your ability / underestimate physics: I started on a 125cc at 16 and I drove quite aggressive. Right before I was allowed to upgrade to a big sports bike, I barely evaded a fatal accident on my 125cc. I was cocky, overtook a slow car before a turn and promptly needed to fit between two cars to survive. That barely worked out and I was cured from speeding. I did not buy a big bike yet (I am mid 30s now).
To be fair, passing is safer with a quicker bike. You can get around and away from people much faster. Sounds like you should go get that liter bike to me 😉
I have a feeling this channel is going to blow up. This guy is hitting ALL the tiny, relevant details that, out of the millions of moto instruction videos, NOBODY is talking about. It's fantastic.
@@skyoom12 amazing vids in a row! i appreciate your commitment! consistency is king. thanks for the smart tips. you might have saved a life! or a bike at the least.
It's probably because this is a no nonsense content. Most content these days are just clickbait poor quality videos supporting people's bias on one thing/ego posting. This video is just19 minutes straight facts.
As a beginner rider, who decided to start on a 250CC despite everyone yelling id regret. Seeing this video makes me glad im learning to ride before im buying an actual rocket. TY sir
Regret is whiskey throttling a litre bike into the side of a tram at 35mph, one second after hitting a bump mid turn in a city street. Fun is learning to ride a bike that you're comfortable on, that you can make mistakes on without it or the law punishing you and that you can thrash a bit. In my country, when I first got my learner's permit, back in the days when dinosaurs were still considered a road hazard, we had a 250 restriction for learner and probationer riders. All these years later and I've never heard a single one of my piers say that they hated their 250 or that it wasn't fun. Quite the opposite, in fact. Enjoy.
One of greatest joy's of riding is opening the full throttle, whether you have to wait for the power or it is on instant,even greatest joy is to daily have a place to do it,with 250 the fun is guaranteed and fatal mistakes are more easly avoided.Always have a super bike as a second bike(or first,but then you have to have a second haha)
When I did my motorcycle license training, they had a tu250x for the first rides before upgrading you to the 650 the law requires you to take the test on. That little 250 was the most fun bike they had.
My first bike was a Honda CB 500 (PC32), I loved that thing so much. You could push it to the "limits" and go nearly full throttle in a corner without anything happening and what a nimble thing it was. Pretty happy with my bikes now but I still think foundly back to that time.
i started at 17 on a gsxr 1000, i honsedtly belive that the best way to stay alive for an extended period of time as a rider is to start on a bike that you are forced to respect, it teaches you so many lessons about riding that you cant learn on a 400cc "beginner" bike
@@c1fi364 I highly doubt anyone at 17 had or will have the emotional maturity to be "gun shy" riding a literal bullet. The reason people preach starting small and gradually upgrading is that smaller bikes forgive mistakes due to performance restrictions. The reason you can get an over 400 cc license at 25 (at least where im from) is because you're expected to be more mature/responsible compared to your teens. Highly doubt a kid of 17 with a mind still ruled by his cock got any "lessons" of respect riding a GSXR 1000 of all bikes.
The smooth power delivery of the FZR1000 Genesis is quite unlike any other 1000 I have had, super smooth and easy to ride, the Kwak ZX9 for example of the same vintage has an animal powerband in comparison..??
I fell in love with motorcycles because it gives me the same stimulus as flying a plane. It's so mentally active and when you accurately predict traffic and put yourself out of danger proactively, it feels like an achievement each time. That being said I love my RC390, banging gears to get up to 60 feels so fun every time. I'm planning on going for an S1000RR, and while I'm an extremely defensive and safe driver/rider, I feel like that amount of power being on tap gives no room for play in self-restraint or error (obviously more now with the computerized bikes.) This video was really a great reality check, thanks for this
Yeah I'm on a Ninja 400 right now, and I think I'd really be happiest with a 600 as I've heard you can have a similar chill riding experience to the little bikes when you keep the gears high and the revs low
@@36shadowboy I got a GSXF600 from 2001. bought it for 400euros. did my own maintenance for 100 euro. and new tires for 460 euro. Pretty cheap and reliable bike
Perhaps you could hire/borrow one (or something similar) before making the commitment. Faster and more powerful on a bike doesn't necessarily translate to more fun. It does for some, but not all. And going from something like your RC to the BMW isn't like going from a 152 to Vans RV7, it's like going from a Tiger Moth to an F18. It's a big step to take all at once. You could well make the choice to take another step up the ladder before going for the all out 200hp bike. SV 650, R7 or even a super sport of some description. Plenty of newer riders trade "up" from their "beginner" bike to their dream bike and before too long, they're regretting their decision. A mate of mine is in exactly that boat as we speak. Don't get me wrong. Ultimately, the S1000rr might be the right bike for you. I'm not you and you're not me. I can't judge for you. But I wouldn't be surprised that if you hired one for a couple of days, you'd start looking elsewhere for your next bike.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Big thing is I was a BMW fanboy when it came to cars for a long time and I've wanted the s1000rr since 2014. I know it's probably not the bike that I think I'll love, but I'll only want to ride sport bikes for so long and during that time I gotta get the dream bike even for just a season
This is exactly why lower power motorcycles are much more fun to ride. You still have to pay 100% attention to traffic/road situation, but you have much more forgiving control of the bike. And you can go full throtle and still be not too far from legal speed after few seconds of instead of liter monsters with which you would have gained speed that has nothing to do with safe riding on public roads (for you and others especially).
@@HRRRRRDRRRRR No, mine is based on the Honda CG engine, it’s probably the most simple four-stroke single you can find. A guy in my Condor 150 FB group just put his up for sale with 23,000mi on it, still running.
I had a ZRX 1200, a mild bike compared to a 1000 cc Supersport, and I could be doing 60 mph in less than 4 seconds, and I could crack 100 mph in the 1/8 mile. I miss it.
I just wanted to say, this is god sent. I was looking at upgrading to a 1000cc from a cb650r. I've been checking reviews on the 04-08 cbr1000rr, 02-2011 R1s and 06-10 zx10r. Never have i come across the insight of what a 1000cc actually requires from the rider. Thank you for sharing this valuable lesson. I would say my experience is adequate.. i think i should stay on the cb650r awhile longer and really prepare for a 1000cc. Thank you so much again! I just subbed to the channel ❤
Far as I'm concerned that cbr650r is one of the prettiest bikes ever produced and a bike I view extremely highly of. Definitely not a bad bike to keep around for a while longer :)
@@skyoom1 cb650r neo cafè is such a pretty bike, but i was also thinking to trade it for a vstrom 650 because i ride all seasons in the UK and need comfort lol. I only wanted a 1000cc for just riding during them warm days
This is funny, I also have cb650r, and I’m about to upgrade to either - 15’ bmw s1000rr or the new cbr600rr 2024 . I’m in Ireland I mostly do short spins in the mountain and some commuting.
i've been riding liter bikes for about 20yrs. my MT10 was the first bike to ever "scare" me with its throttle response. doing about 75mph on an interstate at night - hit a bump which caused me to pull back a hair and the thing almost went out from underneath of me. had never experienced that level response before. it's still my favorite bike but i've got a whole new level of respect for the newer technology
I'm into motorcycles because of the capabilities of the machines and the way they force my mind to focus on riding. It's really therapeutic for me to be so immersed in the finer points of my riding technique. My current ride is a Tuono 660 with 100hp, but your video lends me to think I'd really enjoy the bigger Tuono!
Ride your 660 for awhile, and then move up to the big one. You will like it. Do a GP exhaust and a tune. Tuono V4 is the best sounding engine you can buy, when you do the GP exhaust.
I appreciate the feedback guys. Just so no one thinks I'm taking the decision lightly, I'm on my third season on my 660, and I have a couple track days and an advanced rider clinic under my belt on that bike. I am also considering moving to something "between" my bike and the V4, like one of the Street Triples, but until I decide I'm going to keep racking up track days and rider clinics.
@@JoshMeeks-b3lim excited for the day i get a 1k cc bike but also the idea of " lifting the front end " under accereration at almost any gear or rpm is wild. I will try to save money up and learn how to wheelie on my 2006 zx6r 636 before i look to upgrade now that the rest of my riding skills are much better
In 2012 I started out on a 1000cc (2002 Yamaha R1) with a graves 1056cc big bore motor in it that came out of a homoligated road race bike. I never went down on it and havent been down once since I started riding. Not saying it won't ever happen because its not a matter of if , its a matter of when. The key is to respect the power the motorcycle has, dont ride like an idiot, be aware of your surroundings, dont ride outside of your comfort zone or experience level, dont push yourself to keep up with reckless or more experienced riders, and always wear proper gear (helmet, jacket. Gloves, pants, boots). Staying fit and keeping your reflexes in top shape does help a lot with reaction times well. Sure you can open the throttle up here and there but dont do it when you shouldn't. Starting on a 1000cc isnt a bad thing, but it isn't for every rider.
I rode dirt bikes for years before getting my bike license and starting on the the tiny cbr125! That little bike was an absolute blast to ride other than low power. I went to a 600 gsxr which I absolutely loved and had more than enough power to get into trouble. My mates all went straight to 1000cc or bigger sports bikes. Some of which almost died shortly after buying the bike! Way to many people think even a 600cc bike is slow!
Similar background here. I think that is the way to do it. Learn the dirt, then the road. And start out on wispy and wimpy, until you learn to control the weight and power of the bike.
Me and my friend bought our first bikes together, and we both did our licence together as well. I only did the A2 Licence (in the UK allows you to ride up 47 bhp) he did his full A Licence (ride a bike of any bhp you want). I'm not into big bikes or sports bikes. I like retro looking cafe cruisers. Following me passing my A2 and him passing his A, we went to a dealership together to buy our bikes. I already had my mind set before I'd even learnt to ride and went home with an amazing Royal Enfield Meteor 350. My friend, on the other hand, is the opposite to me he adores sports bikes and the idea of riding track days eventually. After some searching around, he found a Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade. It was an older bike (2012) but had been used as a display piece at this patricular dealer, so it had very low miles on it. The dealer seemed happy to sell it to him. However, I was very sceptical. I didn't like the idea of him jumping right on a superbike. A couple of weeks go bye and due to poor weather we aren't really able to ride our bikes together. (I used my Royal Enfield regularly throughout this time as it's great in all weather) My mates honda, however, didn't enjoy the wet, so he stayed of it. Following this two week pause, we went out for our first big rid together. I ride to his house, and we set off and zero word of a lie he bins it on the first roundabout right in front of me. He was unharmed, but the bike was written off. He literally rode it twice one time to ride it home and then again when he binned it. He slightly added too much power when conering, and it slid out from underneath him. He's since bought himself a Royal Enfield Classic 350 and has lost all interest in riding superbikes and even trackdays (the crash shook him up). Me and him just enjoy heading to the british superbikes on our machines now. The moral of the story folks is don't buy a 1000cc monster as your first bike, start small and work your way up.
I'm learning on a 250 and I do understand why I could have gone bigger but this video puts into perspective the difference in how the bikes react to the smallest of inputs much appreciated man
This video is amazing! Not only does this video apply to 1k’s but also 600’s. This is a complete culmination of all the things I want to tell someone that wants to get their first bike. I have always advocated for smaller bikes because they are more forgiving, but never really could figured out what made them more forgiving as far as “less power.” My first bike was a 22 ninja 400 (now stunted) and seven months later I felt I out grew it, so I bought a 2008 R6S because I knew a 1k would be too much for me. I quickly realized how much BIGGER 1k’s are, I was able to have good throttle control over my R6 but there were still rare moments (even in the year and a half I owned it) where I forgot how much pull the bike had and ended up having a small whisky throttle. Always wanted an H2 but I knew I would never ride it because of how much power it has. Recently sold my R6 for a 15 Fz-07, absolute blast! I love the low end torque, but I can’t lie, I really miss that high end power and the sound of a screaming 6. All the best to you man! Hope to continue to see this channel grow!
1ks Bigger…how so? The GSXR s I’ve had (had many, all sizes multiple years and models) (same with other brands of sport bikes), the 600, 750, and 1ks were all pretty much identical sizes, and aside for a dozen pounds here and there, or an inch or two in height, all weighed about the same. I don’t follow!
Interesting demo indeed, thanks. Actually confirms my suspicions. I've been riding for 20 years and still won't go near such an excellent but unforgiving machine. Happy with my torque-before-power Triumph Street Twin which is very easy to ride and still faster than I ever want to go.
As a 10 year experience 1000cc rider from my 3rd month of riding, I was not surprised and agree 1000% with this quality video. I love all manual trans cars, so I have no problem with these bike dialing you in all the time, but only for an hour at a time
If you have the skills this young bloke, is talking about and your body is fine with the seated position. Get one, these bikes bring a smile to the dial every ride
I love my 'little' 650cc V2 naked bike. I've notice mistakes when I make them while riding, but the bike is forgiving. The other thing is that for beginner riders it is needed to practice shifting between gears and not just changing between 1st and 2nd gear.
I just got myself a CFmoto 450ss which is of course 450cc. I'm a new rider, and got a lotta back talk about not getting a 600 or 1000 from folks. I loved your video a ton man, and this is what I figured when I was out lookin' for bikes. lol. Glad someone really showed and explained it, perfect video. I'm happy with my choice, later on i'll move up of course, but for now i'm content with it. Cheers man.
Changing the class from naked to sport-touring or super sport needs a complete skill upgrade. Had a 600 Fazer and changed to a VFR800 - it was scary and uncomfortable that my so embedded skills were useless regarding the size, the class, and handling of the bike... Had to learn a new set of skills, research and practice alot. Your content is amazing debunking many myths about motorcycling and big cc engine bikes - the rider's skills are the ones that matter first. 👏👏👏🏍️
Great point bringing up the different classes. Are a 1000cc supersport and a 1000 cc sports tourer both going to demand the equal amount of alertness? Not in my.books. A supersport is a razor sharp scalpel and a sports tourer is a utility knife. Both will cut you, but that scalpel is ALWAYS ready to mess you up.
I had a VFR800 and loved how smooth it was. Made a mistake and sold it. Now have a SV1000s and it does my head in. But it's more fun. I'm 80 this year.
This is great. Exactly what I would expect and yet people keep recommending me 1000cc bikes as my first. Watching this confirms my believe that I'll be much more comfortable on a 650 and have way more fun. Thank you!
Don't let people talk you out of that 650 saying it'll bore you or they're too slow either, wonderful class of bike with way more punch and capability than the "influencer" crowd will ever admit to
@@skyoom1 I'm probably not getting it brand new, so it depends on whats available, but I'd prefer the black/green (pearl storm green) or the white/green (pearl blizzard white) :)
This is the first video of yours I’ve seen and I really liked it. The only thing I think you could have added would be a discussion of how fast that bike goes full throttle in first gear. I think that’s a wake up call for people as well. Keep up the good work.
I can die in a recliner at home. Why add a motor? Superbikes is what motorcycles tried to be from their first iterations, hence people souping up their old bikes
I think it's because you're going into detail about a lot of things other videos just brush over. Id love to hear you talk about the differences between a 600 and a thousand
40 years riding, the last 2 years on a litre bike. Along the way, I owned GPZ900R, CBX, KZ1300 and 20 others. A litre bike is easy to ride, fast and slow. The difference is, for a rider with low skill. You will get to a speed where you need extreme skill, in under 10 seconds. The bike doesn't know who is riding, it just reacts to input. You can go from 0 to dead in under 2 breaths, don't make them your last.
I think what you said about being attentive is what makes them a bad idea for beginners. The margin for error is the problem. 1000cc are heavier than a 300cc or 400cc motorcycles but not drastically. The power increase to a 1000cc motorcycle is drastically different though. Obviously, starting on a 1000cc motorcycle isn't impossible, it's just increases the risk that most people aren't ready for. I have a 2022 Z900 (948cc). It's my 1st bike. I bought it brand new, and I have about 11k miles on the bike. I trusted myself to not take the power and weight of that bike for granted, and I've been good so far. At the end of the day, I think riders have genuine care for the safety of other riders. Either way, you made excellent points in your video, so thank you. Continue to be safe out there 👊🏾. Side note: what kind of gloves are you wearing?
Exactly I noticed that I was progressing really slow on my MT07 because I was just programmed to be careful on everything so I never understood the limit of riding and sometimes even become too safe that I lost confidence in making a turn or things like that. Most people think its being "safe" but its more about being attentive, having good judgement and taking action before its too late. "Respecting the throttle" dosen't really do shit because all you're doing is being mindful of the bike instead of scanning your environment. When you need to hard brake until you stoppie you'll freeze and crash because you haven't got the experience or not ready for the situation.
Very well presented demonstration. I've been driving manual transmission cars for the past 12 years or so, and I love the engagement whilst driving. I dont understand why people would want a DCT/automatic when owning a sports car--it takes all of the fun and skill out of driving, IMO. I've been researching bikes for the past several months and I'm considering getting an R7 for my first bike. It seems like the sweet spot for a street bike, IMO, and I love the torque/power curve it has, especially for the streets. I may consider getting a 600 at some point afterwards, but I think that's as far as I'll go. Perhaps I may change my mind over time, but I think I'll be content with the R7 for quite a while lol. Again, fantastic video. It really puts into perspective how powerful liter bikes are to those that already don't understand. I already knew they were like this, but like many people have said, I've really never seen anyone demonstrate it this way on RUclips. I think a lot of people that intended on buying liter bikes are reevaluating that decision after watching this video.
Nice detailed video. Been riding street since the late 80s, dirt since I was a kid in the 70s. Sold my liter bike last year as I never rode it much, as I spend most of my time on my Super Tenere. Ya, I went from sport bike guy to an ADV dork, but hey, at least I'm not on a bagger, that will have to wait until I hit 70! What I turned into as a rider is described perfectly at 8:38 which is aided and abetted by having cruise control. I live in Colorado and there are cool far away places to see, and a big comfy ADV bike with a big tank for long range is great for that. Liter bikes are great for experienced riders due to their broad powerbands - they effortlessly thrust around at casual RPM and that is awesome. Liter bikes are bad for new riders due to their broad powerbands as the video explains so well. Liter class bikes on the cam are ferocious things that can't really be contained on the confines on the street. I did a few track days on my sport bike, that was an eye opener when it came to what the bike was casually capable of. Still riding a KTM 300 XC dirt bike, that keeps me sharp on the street. Bought a Husky 701 Enduro to replace my sport bike last year. Being a hooligan, I might be in more trouble on the big thumper. It is Rottweiler tuned, and it does wheelies, lots of wheelies, and being a dirt biker I am powerless to resist. I am so screwed - was safer from the cops on my sport bike 😆
Remember guys, a lot of the time, the danger in riding isn’t your own skill, it’s the unpredictable nature of other road users🫡 Stay safe out there🏍️🏍️🏍️
I bought a Moto Morini 125 recently. I just want to enjoy local riding but have no experience of bikes. Honestly it feels fast enough to me! Great video.
Seeing you hit 60mph/100kmh with no visible change in your wrist position is insanity. That's already the speed limit on the highways where I am. Wild to think how powerful these bikes are.
This is actually super interesting and I never see simple videos like this get posted, and I say that because I’ve genuinely always wondered about the ridablity of 1st gear on a liter bike, I always assumed it was like 20mph idle speed
I was thinking of getting into motorcycle riding, this video was truly a great insight. was thinking of getting a 1000cc cuz I just happened to have money but this convinced me otherwise. I want to ride and not be bothered by everything. I live also in a busy city so I thought a 600cc street bike would be ideal. thank you sir and safe riding.
I own a2003 Suzuki GSXR 1000 that has been custom tuned (with parts) to 160 HP at the rear sprocket. It flies like you can't even imagine. 0 to 100 mph in about 4 seconds. It is no joke! I have had several lower cc bike prior to this one. You can't just get a 1000 and think you can handle it from the start. Experience is highly recommended before you get one. I have blown away mega cars like Vettes and Stangs and anything else, doesn't matter what it is (and they always want to race you, kinda funny). A gixxerr 1000 with custom engine work is only 400 or so pounds with sick power. It will keep you on edge, no matter how experienced you are. So, I completely agreeee with this guy in the video. It is a beast, plain and simple.
As a guy who always wanted to ride, but never once sat on a bike, this was really insightful; its insane how strong these machines are compared to their weight
what a great video, I started riding motobikes when i was a young boy and then transferred to street three or so years ago. Bought a klx300sm and it was the best purchase i could have made for my first street bike. Of course i wanted to go fast but something small to learn the feel of the street, riding, turning, braking, counter-steering on instinct was a life or death decision in hindsight. Got a gsxr 750 now and i can only imagine a liter bike on the road. You're playing a totally different ballgame riding that 750 around vs the supermoto. Absolutely excellent video, thank you for putting this into perspective. keep the content coming!!
This is the first explanation i’ve even heard that explains why liter bikes might not be for everyone, without suggesting “you can’t handle it”, or “i ride these, but you shouldn’t”. I can accept this way of looking at it, considering the type of riding i plan on doing- maybe i don’t “need” it. Really appreciate this video and your perspective.
I have a dyna superglide 1340 and used to have a gsxr750, and a spotrster 1200. Just bought a 2024 cbr1000rr and you are absolutely right about everything you say. They must be respected as I’ve always been taught, but the power can get you out of trouble as much as it can get you into it. They are streetable if you have the strength and awareness. Also helps to be confident and familiar with your equipment, suspension settings, brakes, control adjustments and riding maps if you have them.
Excellent POINTS I don't think anyones really told beginner riders this the way you did, its definitely needed,. SALESMAN even lie and sell newbies 1000 we had one last year do it and the guy died. 1000 means 1000% FOCUS then the addiction of speed & adrenaline drive your life & its amazing! EVEN THE BEST CYCLE RIDER IS NOT BETTER THEN THE 1000 ITS WHEN ONE THINKS THEY ARE BETTER IS WHEN THEY WRECK & MOST OFTEN DIE, Lost 3 of my friends just in the last month.
Bought a GSXR 1000 as my 1st bike, never rode anything other than a bicycle before. Hopped on and yes it’s crazy but as long as you know your limits it’s an amazing 1st bike. The power isn’t scary until you get into throttle and the suspension and brakes give real confidence cruising around and pushing the bike
I have the feeling that most people or channels speaking of liter bikes have 2 issues; 1)consider only super sport bikes and don't state it 2) consider that riders that start have zero control over the throtle and will open it completely on the first try. It all depends on your level of skill and confidence when you get a licence. In Europe you can get the full licence directly if you are old enough and you get to practice with 600cc min bikes straight away. Same for me, when I got my licence, I got to try many kinds of bikes. The trick is not to go full monkey and open the whole throtle as soon as you can.
Hello from Manchester, England. I was probably about 10 years into my riding career before getting my first litre bike. Since then, I've had a few Fireblades, and a couple of RC51's (they take some mastering!). However, nowadays, I'm back with small bikes. I've a Honda CRF300L, and an SV650. The reasons? Primarily because I don't ride trackdays anymore, plus they are just too frustrating for me on the road. So much power, you never get the chance here to wind them up. Too many traffic police, average speed cameras and dashcam warriors around also. For me, it's simply more fun now to ring the neck of a slow bike on the back roads....!
You got my subscribe and I’ll tell you exactly when. When you were mentioning hitting a bump and blipping the throttle accidentally and how it changes the weight of the handle bars. I knew then you had experience and knowledge. I appreciate you giving me that info
A coworker has a 1000 and told me that its absolutely no fun to ride them on the streets. I have a 390 and love to turn my brain of and take in my surroundings.
I drove since childhood a 50cc, 2 years ago moved to 500cc and now looking for a 1000cc. I had worries if a 1000 is really for me because people told me that they are for "older" guys (I'm 22) and unpredictable, so I should look for a 600cc. Now after listening to your thoughts about the topic I'm 100% sure 1000cc is definitely for me. I love challenges and I'm not a guy who's afraid of power. The beast is not as scary as they were telling.
I can agree with what you're saying. I know exactly 1 guy that started on an open class bike. But he is a very thoughtful, careful guy. Bike #2 was a Hayabusa because his Blackbird wasn't enough (I assume). A Blackbird has softer edge than a GSXR or ZX10 though, more Sport Tourer. Then there's the fact that, when you really gas it up on a 1000cc sport bike, maybe you the top of 2nd or 3rd, you're past 100mph (I think one of them did 104mph at redline in 1st), and people don't realize how fast they're going when they get to the turn, then run off into the trees or the dirt, without even trying to make the turn. And at low speeds, parking lots, traffic etc., I ride them like a dirt bike, lots of clutch action. And if you aren't focused, don't ride the bike.
Honestly I’ve had a 1000 and I love my aprilla rs660 Light ,comfortable,every option and fast enough to get into too much trouble in the city. Cool video
Thanks for shedding a little light on this topic. I love to get new riders out riding but it flat out sucks seeing them get too spirited too soon and eat it. God forbid they get hurt and never have interest to ride again or worse they get themselves killed. I try to always tell riders, "Don't go looking for adventure, let the adventure find you" . I've found that displacement is less of the issue and lack of understanding to being the leading problem with a lot of these crashes. People who go from traveling 85+ mph in a car to that on a bike assume the physics are the same and they are NOT . I'll even go as far as to say that people traveling 85+ mph in a car seldom understand the physics at play on 4 wheels let alone 2. We see football players colliding with each other at a combined speed of about 25-35mph and get career ending TBIs. We're traveling 3x-4x that speed but simply don't appreciate the potential for catastrophe. Riding motorcycles is one of the most freeing and uplifting experiences one can ever enjoy but please do so with the proper mindset. Ride well and live. Ride Defensively. Start slow and work your way up. Lastly don't treat the street like the track. There are too many variables on the roads where the tracks eliminate as may of those as possible. If you want to really get a thrill sign up at your local and get a day or weekend of instruction. That small amount will stick with you forever and your toolbox of knowledge will increase while your risk will decrease.
Worked as a salesman for 6 years at Honda shop. I rode 3 in that time and only because the new guys would drop them. I hate them. HATE them. So unbelievably uncomfortable, so hard to keep cool, so so much power for no reason. Plus the price tag…. We had a 1/32 Honda track bike. Was like 80k in a glass box. I had to move the stupid thing 25 feet. I set hundreds of packing blankets on the ground around the path and then put the bike on casters. Absolute pucker moment. But tbh if I had the skill and $$ for track bike a 1000c would be so so much fun.
My first "road bike" was a R1200GS a few years ago and was so happy I went with this bike. But I've been riding a dirtbike (KTM 350 XCF-W) for 10 years. So I knew how to modulate power via the clutch and had good bike handling skills needed for the trails. For experienced dirt riders I would not be afraid of 1000cc + bike IMO.
Im just over 2 years on 2 wheels. I moved up from a cbr250 to a gaxs750 last year and it is a WORLD of difference. My wife learned and started on a r6. B4 i met her, She eventually totalled it but walked away. She encouraged me to start small and work my way up. Glad i did. 750cc is all i need. Couldnt imagine riding a 600/1000cc... yet. And if i never do, thats cool.
Started with a ninja 400 for my first 2 years from 16-18 then onward ive had my Z1000. I absolutely love everything about my Z and have done everything to it i wish to. Ceramic breaks, flashed, yoshimura straight lipe exhaust everything. But with all this said its more important than anything that i systted with that 400 so i could fully learn what a bike can do before uograding and expanding my possibilities. I still remember my first reaction to my z1000 being astonished and amazed at what i had gotten feeling like i was holding onto the horns of a bull. Granted now ive gotten used to it and dream of getting an h2 but even now i still reccomend nobody to start with a 1000 as it legitimately will horribly injure you.
Great video, I ride a GSXS 1000 and am very thankful I rode otehr bikes before it. But now that I'm used to it, the 1000 is the safest bike for me, I can accelerate or brake out of any problem on the road. I a lot don't realise with more HP bikes have the better the brakes get. I feel a lot less in control of a 650cc bike because the brakes are nothing. Yes big bikes are twitchy, but your wrist has a lot more fine control than your foot, so it's easier than you think if you're coming from an only car background.
The key thing is experience. Don’t let your confidence out-pace your experience level EVER. Always keep your confidence in check and if you’re feeling cocky, it’s time to get off the bike and chill the F out and have a serious talk with yourself!
I never understood what people were talking about when they say about bikes being too fast.... Only as fast as you want to go. You could ride this like a 125 if you wanted to and never go above 60mph.
I went through the MSF course and got my license recently. A guy in my group was a new rider (stalling a lot, difficult riding) and was showing everyone his new 1000cc he bought. I hope he’s okay.
I have the crossplane Yamaha R1 2010, very low mileage. It is an absolute lumpy pig to ride around the city at low speeds doing "stop-start-stop-start" between traffic jams and traffic lights. Out in the open roads its fun, providing there are few cars and no traffic jams. I miss the old days when there was less traffic, less cameras and less traffic police. Go for a sport bike for the looks and how it makes you feel, but practicality would be supernakeds all the way. Sadly.
I got my licence the day I didn't have to ride with any type of restrictions when I was 21. That was 25 years ago. I got myself a 1998 GSXR 600. I then spent the next few years avoiding people trying to kill me at every possible opportunity. I stayed on 600's and 750 twins until 2021 when I fell in love with a 2009 R1 Big Bang. It took me at least 5 months till I felt I was in full control riding with "spirit". I've done a lot of track driving in cars with the very rare bike trackday here and there so I had a decent amount of respect for a machines limits but it's totally different to riding on the roads. I wouldn't recommend to any new rider that a moped, 600, 750 or 1000 is a good idea until they have learned how bad other people are at driving and spent a few years learning road sense.
Agreed 100 💯 with everything you said great video. Beginners don’t get a 1000cc superbike you’ll get yourself killed. My Ducati v4s is 1103cc you need 1000% focus at all times. Another thing to get better on your machine is track days.
I daily a 2018 gsxr 1000. I really enjoyed this video, this is a bike that demands absolute attention, focus, and respect when riding. Exactly like you said, if you're not giving it you're full attention, a twitch in the throttle can be catastrophic. IMO, once I got used to it, I enjoyed taking it out anywhere, whether its twisty highways or low speed city roads. Ride safe my man.
Bought a Suzuki GX as my first street bike. Very approachable liter bike that is super comfortable. As long as you ride within your limits and understand the power behind the motor. I don't see an issue buying a liter bike.
I've only ever ridden 1000cc sportbikes, but the first time I ever hit the throttle stop and left it there was on a racetrack. It was slightly terrifying. Now I only ride track.
The amount of views this video has shows peoples mindset. Everybody wants the biggest and baddest bike. I would have thought the video on Ergos would have had more views. Keep up the good work. Love to see the growth
100% agreed, they do take attention and some skill to ride comfortably. As a MSF coach for many years, I can tell you that the issue is when an inexperienced rider is presented with an emergency situation. They do not have the skills or fine motor control to avoid "grabbing" and handful of brake or throttle while operating the bars and body position properly to control the power. No shame or lack of fun with a smaller bike.
As someone who had to start on a 125cc because I’m from germany, I’m very glad that I learned riding on a small bike before being given the option of high power motorcycles
Totally agree. I had a ZX-6R (I have a Street Triple now) and that thing demanded 100% focus all the time. Riding it felt like nothing else, but even a one hour ride generally left me exhausted. Amazing machine, freaking loved it.
Wow excellent points. I've never heard that argument of its a bike that will focus all of your attention to it. The power is there like you said, but if requires a rider who is willing to accept they're going to be busy with their own attention span rather than how hard they can hang on. Cool shit, man. Thanks for this
I went from CBR650R to MT10 SP. Im more of a cruise and relax person. The mt10 can be kind and rideable. But i have to admit the fear of god reaching higher rpm on it for the first time. Yeh, mt10 is not a R1 but it was still a big jump from 650. This man is spot on,bravo!
Excellent presentation!!! Due to my age; I recently opted for a more relaxed riding position with a Suzuki GSX-S1000F for a slightly more comfortable ride with nearly as much power and speed as a Supersport bike. Even with the slightly de-tuned K5 GSXR 1000 engine, a lot of the same principles still apply... with the de-tuned k5 engine; this bike's powerband is slightly different... with more torque in the lower to midrange with still some decent power in the higher rpm range. Just my observation if someone were considering a slightly different but similar experience to a gixxer. Keep up the great work with the content. ITS MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
Man, I've never seen a video that puts things this well into perspective! Ride safe brother, thanks for sharing this video. Subscribed, now going to watch rest of your videos. Sometimes RUclips algorithm does recommend quality videos.
I've been riding a long time and been on many different bikes and this is the most well stated 1000cc super sport explanation I've ever heard. Very similar to explaining 450cc moto cross bikes to people just how crazy they are.
I have a 1987 Yamaha Fazer 700 as my first bike and started to ride about a two months ago. A carbureted 20-valve motor that’s making roughly 86hp doesn’t sound like a lot. But it is enough to pull 4s in a 0-60 at half throttle, while pulling my 6ft, 210lb ass up a hill in third gear. I’m still learning how to use this power in an efficient and safe manner without getting into harms way. Start small, it might save your life when you make a mistake.
Anyone who turns their brain off while motorcycling might be in for a bad day, unless your on a single lane road out in the middle of nowhere, and thats assuming no animals jump out in front of you.
Yeap you never turn your brain off I think he meant that its less stress because a Sportbike is far more rigid and even a small bit of gravel sends the handling sketchy and twitchy. Where as a triumph tiger or gs can just ride through bad surface and you dont have to do anything the set up is made to ride thro all terrains. I think thats what he is getting at.
lol I turned off my brain when doing the most basic part turning it on lil gas clutch out roll away, well my brain dumped clutch and stalled then slowly dumped bike while over extending my leg to save it lol. The first time i've ever dumped my bike and in the dumbest way possible.
youve never rode a cruiser or goldwing lol. Brain off in the sense you don't have to worry about much because you're just riding with the flow of traffic
@@GunflameI don’t turn my brain off not even driving a car, to much idiots on the road
It's not turn off the brain. What he means is that as compared to the attention span of 1000 supersport, it is "like" a turn off the brain. Let's not nitpick
Zero plans of starting on a 1000, and the first couple minutes of this video just solidified that. Barely moving your wrist and going 60 mph is crazy.
Wise man👍🏻 60mph that too in a controlled situation just think about an inexperienced guy jumping on this ...he would be signing his death warrant basically the first gears are really tall in these bikes they go upto 90-100mph that too very rapidly.
i just did the msf course 2 weeks ago i learned and passed the class on a 250cc bike ! i bought a 1100cc bike bmw sport cruiser bike right after . you can definitely go fast if you want to !
but u can also cruise i went riding with some honda groms and they dusted me lol i was crusing with the guys on the scooters 😂 but if i wanted to i coulldve left em all in the dust
@@chokeeartist More power to you, but absolutely not something I'm going to do
@@AllTheRamenOnTheSky riding has alot to do with confidence. it sounds like u lack confidence in your riding ability/ just dont pull the throttle all the way if ur scared of going fast ( plus u need to be in like 3rd gear+ to get to any fastt speeed so just stay in second lol just keep riding and youll gain confidence . but if ur not confident dont hop on it . piece and
@@chokeeartist There's also a thing called over confidence... Which it sounds like you have.
"It's better to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow" - Marcus Aurelius
Considering that Marcus Aurelius lived and wrote in the first century AD, that advice is only going to get better and better
I’ve been riding since I was 4-5 years old, I’m glad someone is giving proper advice without trying to sell something. Always wanted a 1000cc but no one could explain exactly what you did to me.
Bro lol… if you been riding since u we’re 4 or 5 and still haven’t jumped on a 1000cc then what are u doing… Don’t be afraid, be confident. If you have the experience riding since 4 years old you could easily jump on any bike u wanted. I been riding since I was about 8 or 9 and the only bike I’ve jumped on tht had “to much power” was a very early 2000s 250cc that just had insane torque everything after market..and the bike was stupid light. But I’ve jumped on 1000cc street bikes tht will never compare street bikes is a cake walk compared to a torquey ass dirtbike that is half the weight.. I’m no pro rider I don’t even wheelie but I got confidence on handling pretty much any bike.. if u know how to ride u can ride anything u want fr..
@@HanJukes Typical dick measuring. I've been riding for nearly 30yrs and never felt the desire to buy a liter bike. 600 class is all around far more useable and fun. There's no such thing as "outgrowing them" unless you are a professional racer.
@@HanJukes although I agree with you, its good that people should know their limits. if he been riding his whole life and still doesn't want a 1000 then he is probably correct on his judgement. know thyself lol. I feel like the video creator is over exaggerating on the powerband, but then again there's a lot of dipshits out there. I've also only driven a cbr1000 as a sportbike ( started on a cruiser) so maybe his gxr 1000 is way more powerful/sensitive, I've never tried.
@@HanJukesunless he's going to the racetrack there is literally no reason for him to own a 1000cc bike. The one other exception would be if he's wanting to ride with a passenger plus a crap ton of cargo.
@@HanJukeshes 14 i guess
Here is a story to not overestimate your ability / underestimate physics: I started on a 125cc at 16 and I drove quite aggressive. Right before I was allowed to upgrade to a big sports bike, I barely evaded a fatal accident on my 125cc. I was cocky, overtook a slow car before a turn and promptly needed to fit between two cars to survive. That barely worked out and I was cured from speeding. I did not buy a big bike yet (I am mid 30s now).
To be fair, passing is safer with a quicker bike. You can get around and away from people much faster. Sounds like you should go get that liter bike to me 😉
Passing before a turn is retarded.
I have a feeling this channel is going to blow up. This guy is hitting ALL the tiny, relevant details that, out of the millions of moto instruction videos, NOBODY is talking about. It's fantastic.
Means a lot man truly, thank you!!
Exactly man
@@skyoom12 amazing vids in a row! i appreciate your commitment! consistency is king. thanks for the smart tips. you might have saved a life! or a bike at the least.
Yeap, covering things that clearly he thinks about deeply himself and shares his thoughts with practical demo.
It's probably because this is a no nonsense content. Most content these days are just clickbait poor quality videos supporting people's bias on one thing/ego posting. This video is just19 minutes straight facts.
As a beginner rider, who decided to start on a 250CC despite everyone yelling id regret. Seeing this video makes me glad im learning to ride before im buying an actual rocket. TY sir
Regret is whiskey throttling a litre bike into the side of a tram at 35mph, one second after hitting a bump mid turn in a city street. Fun is learning to ride a bike that you're comfortable on, that you can make mistakes on without it or the law punishing you and that you can thrash a bit. In my country, when I first got my learner's permit, back in the days when dinosaurs were still considered a road hazard, we had a 250 restriction for learner and probationer riders. All these years later and I've never heard a single one of my piers say that they hated their 250 or that it wasn't fun. Quite the opposite, in fact. Enjoy.
One of greatest joy's of riding is opening the full throttle, whether you have to wait for the power or it is on instant,even greatest joy is to daily have a place to do it,with 250 the fun is guaranteed and fatal mistakes are more easly avoided.Always have a super bike as a second bike(or first,but then you have to have a second haha)
When I did my motorcycle license training, they had a tu250x for the first rides before upgrading you to the 650 the law requires you to take the test on. That little 250 was the most fun bike they had.
My first bike was a Honda CB 500 (PC32), I loved that thing so much. You could push it to the "limits" and go nearly full throttle in a corner without anything happening and what a nimble thing it was. Pretty happy with my bikes now but I still think foundly back to that time.
A 250 is just fun man. Its more fun to be fast on a slow bike, than slow on a fast one
I started at 19 years old with a Yamaha fzr1000. First time I'd ever ridden any kind of bike. Glad to still be around at 42 to tell the story!
i started at 17 on a gsxr 1000, i honsedtly belive that the best way to stay alive for an extended period of time as a rider is to start on a bike that you are forced to respect, it teaches you so many lessons about riding that you cant learn on a 400cc "beginner" bike
@@c1fi364 I highly doubt anyone at 17 had or will have the emotional maturity to be "gun shy" riding a literal bullet. The reason people preach starting small and gradually upgrading is that smaller bikes forgive mistakes due to performance restrictions. The reason you can get an over 400 cc license at 25 (at least where im from) is because you're expected to be more mature/responsible compared to your teens. Highly doubt a kid of 17 with a mind still ruled by his cock got any "lessons" of respect riding a GSXR 1000 of all bikes.
@@theopap6110well when I was young I still knew not to do shit that could kill me so I get what he’s saying
@@theopap6110there’s little kids in other countries riding 1000 bro…. It’s really not that unbelievable
The smooth power delivery of the FZR1000 Genesis is quite unlike any other 1000 I have had, super smooth and easy to ride, the Kwak ZX9 for example of the same vintage has an animal powerband in comparison..??
I fell in love with motorcycles because it gives me the same stimulus as flying a plane. It's so mentally active and when you accurately predict traffic and put yourself out of danger proactively, it feels like an achievement each time. That being said I love my RC390, banging gears to get up to 60 feels so fun every time. I'm planning on going for an S1000RR, and while I'm an extremely defensive and safe driver/rider, I feel like that amount of power being on tap gives no room for play in self-restraint or error (obviously more now with the computerized bikes.) This video was really a great reality check, thanks for this
Yeah I'm on a Ninja 400 right now, and I think I'd really be happiest with a 600 as I've heard you can have a similar chill riding experience to the little bikes when you keep the gears high and the revs low
@@36shadowboy I got a GSXF600 from 2001. bought it for 400euros. did my own maintenance for 100 euro. and new tires for 460 euro. Pretty cheap and reliable bike
Perhaps you could hire/borrow one (or something similar) before making the commitment. Faster and more powerful on a bike doesn't necessarily translate to more fun. It does for some, but not all. And going from something like your RC to the BMW isn't like going from a 152 to Vans RV7, it's like going from a Tiger Moth to an F18. It's a big step to take all at once.
You could well make the choice to take another step up the ladder before going for the all out 200hp bike. SV 650, R7 or even a super sport of some description.
Plenty of newer riders trade "up" from their "beginner" bike to their dream bike and before too long, they're regretting their decision. A mate of mine is in exactly that boat as we speak.
Don't get me wrong. Ultimately, the S1000rr might be the right bike for you. I'm not you and you're not me. I can't judge for you. But I wouldn't be surprised that if you hired one for a couple of days, you'd start looking elsewhere for your next bike.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Big thing is I was a BMW fanboy when it came to cars for a long time and I've wanted the s1000rr since 2014. I know it's probably not the bike that I think I'll love, but I'll only want to ride sport bikes for so long and during that time I gotta get the dream bike even for just a season
@@jacksonsingleton I get it. I really do.
This is exactly why lower power motorcycles are much more fun to ride. You still have to pay 100% attention to traffic/road situation, but you have much more forgiving control of the bike. And you can go full throtle and still be not too far from legal speed after few seconds of instead of liter monsters with which you would have gained speed that has nothing to do with safe riding on public roads (for you and others especially).
My Chinese 150 agrees with you !
@@jimstenlund6017 .. Inbetween coughing up pieces of engine.
@@HRRRRRDRRRRR No, mine is based on the Honda CG engine, it’s probably the most simple four-stroke single you can find. A guy in my Condor 150 FB group just put his up for sale with 23,000mi on it, still running.
@nohandlefound. Right, and I’m only imagining that it runs great, has both electric and kickstart…
I had a ZRX 1200, a mild bike compared to a 1000 cc Supersport, and I could be doing 60 mph in less than 4 seconds, and I could crack 100 mph in the 1/8 mile. I miss it.
I just wanted to say, this is god sent. I was looking at upgrading to a 1000cc from a cb650r. I've been checking reviews on the 04-08 cbr1000rr, 02-2011 R1s and 06-10 zx10r. Never have i come across the insight of what a 1000cc actually requires from the rider. Thank you for sharing this valuable lesson. I would say my experience is adequate.. i think i should stay on the cb650r awhile longer and really prepare for a 1000cc. Thank you so much again!
I just subbed to the channel ❤
Far as I'm concerned that cbr650r is one of the prettiest bikes ever produced and a bike I view extremely highly of. Definitely not a bad bike to keep around for a while longer :)
@@skyoom1 cb650r neo cafè is such a pretty bike, but i was also thinking to trade it for a vstrom 650 because i ride all seasons in the UK and need comfort lol. I only wanted a 1000cc for just riding during them warm days
@@KppG-dn6zf sounds like 2 bikes may be the solution you're looking for haha
This is funny, I also have cb650r, and I’m about to upgrade to either - 15’ bmw s1000rr or the new cbr600rr 2024 . I’m in Ireland I mostly do short spins in the mountain and some commuting.
@@KppG-dn6zf The Trident 660 is a pretty nice bike too, and very fun to ride
i've been riding liter bikes for about 20yrs. my MT10 was the first bike to ever "scare" me with its throttle response. doing about 75mph on an interstate at night - hit a bump which caused me to pull back a hair and the thing almost went out from underneath of me. had never experienced that level response before. it's still my favorite bike but i've got a whole new level of respect for the newer technology
hope this channels pops off, really good content so far
Honestly! I was surprised he only has a month or so of videos based on how high the quality and info is. Definitely earned a sub here
I'm into motorcycles because of the capabilities of the machines and the way they force my mind to focus on riding. It's really therapeutic for me to be so immersed in the finer points of my riding technique. My current ride is a Tuono 660 with 100hp, but your video lends me to think I'd really enjoy the bigger Tuono!
Ride your 660 for awhile, and then move up to the big one. You will like it. Do a GP exhaust and a tune. Tuono V4 is the best sounding engine you can buy, when you do the GP exhaust.
Take your time with the 660 the 1100 is an animal a light front end and it will 100% catch you out if you don't know what you're doing.
I appreciate the feedback guys. Just so no one thinks I'm taking the decision lightly, I'm on my third season on my 660, and I have a couple track days and an advanced rider clinic under my belt on that bike. I am also considering moving to something "between" my bike and the V4, like one of the Street Triples, but until I decide I'm going to keep racking up track days and rider clinics.
@@JoshMeeks-b3l Get the Tuono V4. You will like it.
@@JoshMeeks-b3lim excited for the day i get a 1k cc bike but also the idea of " lifting the front end " under accereration at almost any gear or rpm is wild. I will try to save money up and learn how to wheelie on my 2006 zx6r 636 before i look to upgrade now that the rest of my riding skills are much better
In 2012 I started out on a 1000cc (2002 Yamaha R1) with a graves 1056cc big bore motor in it that came out of a homoligated road race bike. I never went down on it and havent been down once since I started riding. Not saying it won't ever happen because its not a matter of if , its a matter of when. The key is to respect the power the motorcycle has, dont ride like an idiot, be aware of your surroundings, dont ride outside of your comfort zone or experience level, dont push yourself to keep up with reckless or more experienced riders, and always wear proper gear (helmet, jacket. Gloves, pants, boots). Staying fit and keeping your reflexes in top shape does help a lot with reaction times well. Sure you can open the throttle up here and there but dont do it when you shouldn't. Starting on a 1000cc isnt a bad thing, but it isn't for every rider.
Exactly. Respect the power, always. You do that, actually do that, and you'll be fine.
Ever grateful the AI landed me to your content. Bonus points for doing the video in the wet
After 25 years on Sports Bikes 600's have always been the sweet spot for me, Love that dual personality of flat low down and screaming top end.
I rode dirt bikes for years before getting my bike license and starting on the the tiny cbr125! That little bike was an absolute blast to ride other than low power. I went to a 600 gsxr which I absolutely loved and had more than enough power to get into trouble. My mates all went straight to 1000cc or bigger sports bikes. Some of which almost died shortly after buying the bike!
Way to many people think even a 600cc bike is slow!
Similar background here. I think that is the way to do it. Learn the dirt, then the road. And start out on wispy and wimpy, until you learn to control the weight and power of the bike.
Me and my friend bought our first bikes together, and we both did our licence together as well. I only did the A2 Licence (in the UK allows you to ride up 47 bhp) he did his full A Licence (ride a bike of any bhp you want). I'm not into big bikes or sports bikes. I like retro looking cafe cruisers.
Following me passing my A2 and him passing his A, we went to a dealership together to buy our bikes. I already had my mind set before I'd even learnt to ride and went home with an amazing Royal Enfield Meteor 350. My friend, on the other hand, is the opposite to me he adores sports bikes and the idea of riding track days eventually. After some searching around, he found a Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade. It was an older bike (2012) but had been used as a display piece at this patricular dealer, so it had very low miles on it. The dealer seemed happy to sell it to him. However, I was very sceptical. I didn't like the idea of him jumping right on a superbike. A couple of weeks go bye and due to poor weather we aren't really able to ride our bikes together. (I used my Royal Enfield regularly throughout this time as it's great in all weather) My mates honda, however, didn't enjoy the wet, so he stayed of it. Following this two week pause, we went out for our first big rid together. I ride to his house, and we set off and zero word of a lie he bins it on the first roundabout right in front of me. He was unharmed, but the bike was written off. He literally rode it twice one time to ride it home and then again when he binned it. He slightly added too much power when conering, and it slid out from underneath him. He's since bought himself a Royal Enfield Classic 350 and has lost all interest in riding superbikes and even trackdays (the crash shook him up). Me and him just enjoy heading to the british superbikes on our machines now.
The moral of the story folks is don't buy a 1000cc monster as your first bike, start small and work your way up.
I'm learning on a 250 and I do understand why I could have gone bigger but this video puts into perspective the difference in how the bikes react to the smallest of inputs much appreciated man
This video is amazing! Not only does this video apply to 1k’s but also 600’s. This is a complete culmination of all the things I want to tell someone that wants to get their first bike. I have always advocated for smaller bikes because they are more forgiving, but never really could figured out what made them more forgiving as far as “less power.” My first bike was a 22 ninja 400 (now stunted) and seven months later I felt I out grew it, so I bought a 2008 R6S because I knew a 1k would be too much for me. I quickly realized how much BIGGER 1k’s are, I was able to have good throttle control over my R6 but there were still rare moments (even in the year and a half I owned it) where I forgot how much pull the bike had and ended up having a small whisky throttle. Always wanted an H2 but I knew I would never ride it because of how much power it has. Recently sold my R6 for a 15 Fz-07, absolute blast! I love the low end torque, but I can’t lie, I really miss that high end power and the sound of a screaming 6. All the best to you man! Hope to continue to see this channel grow!
1ks Bigger…how so? The GSXR s I’ve had (had many, all sizes multiple years and models) (same with other brands of sport bikes), the 600, 750, and 1ks were all pretty much identical sizes, and aside for a dozen pounds here and there, or an inch or two in height, all weighed about the same. I don’t follow!
Interesting demo indeed, thanks. Actually confirms my suspicions. I've been riding for 20 years and still won't go near such an excellent but unforgiving machine. Happy with my torque-before-power Triumph Street Twin which is very easy to ride and still faster than I ever want to go.
As a 10 year experience 1000cc rider from my 3rd month of riding, I was not surprised and agree 1000% with this quality video.
I love all manual trans cars, so I have no problem with these bike dialing you in all the time, but only for an hour at a time
For all those that like the gloves, they are Bison Thor.1's
If you have the skills this young bloke, is talking about and your body is fine with the seated position.
Get one, these bikes bring a smile to the dial every ride
there’s naked ones
Most eye opening video I've seen. Switching from a 650 to a 600 this year and I think I'll be staying there for a few years.
Try a trackday!
I love my 'little' 650cc V2 naked bike. I've notice mistakes when I make them while riding, but the bike is forgiving. The other thing is that for beginner riders it is needed to practice shifting between gears and not just changing between 1st and 2nd gear.
Going from 650 to a 600 will be a huge jump in performance. You won’t get bored with the power either. Ride safe
I just got myself a CFmoto 450ss which is of course 450cc. I'm a new rider, and got a lotta back talk about not getting a 600 or 1000 from folks. I loved your video a ton man, and this is what I figured when I was out lookin' for bikes. lol. Glad someone really showed and explained it, perfect video. I'm happy with my choice, later on i'll move up of course, but for now i'm content with it. Cheers man.
Changing the class from naked to sport-touring or super sport needs a complete skill upgrade. Had a 600 Fazer and changed to a VFR800 - it was scary and uncomfortable that my so embedded skills were useless regarding the size, the class, and handling of the bike... Had to learn a new set of skills, research and practice alot. Your content is amazing debunking many myths about motorcycling and big cc engine bikes - the rider's skills are the ones that matter first. 👏👏👏🏍️
Great point bringing up the different classes.
Are a 1000cc supersport and a 1000 cc sports tourer both going to demand the equal amount of alertness?
Not in my.books. A supersport is a razor sharp scalpel and a sports tourer is a utility knife.
Both will cut you, but that scalpel is ALWAYS ready to mess you up.
I had a VFR800 and loved how smooth it was. Made a mistake and sold it. Now have a SV1000s and it does my head in. But it's more fun. I'm 80 this year.
This is great. Exactly what I would expect and yet people keep recommending me 1000cc bikes as my first. Watching this confirms my believe that I'll be much more comfortable on a 650 and have way more fun. Thank you!
Don't let people talk you out of that 650 saying it'll bore you or they're too slow either, wonderful class of bike with way more punch and capability than the "influencer" crowd will ever admit to
I ride a 400 as my first. It's a lot of fun!
@@skyoom1 dont have my license yet, but went to a dealership yesterday to get a feel for the z650 and I am sold.
@@Dr.BenjiBuddy Hell yeah man awesome bike, which color you leaning towards
@@skyoom1 I'm probably not getting it brand new, so it depends on whats available, but I'd prefer the black/green (pearl storm green) or the white/green (pearl blizzard white) :)
I ALWAYS send this video to dorks that think they can go from zero experience to a liter bike. Very informative 👏
This is the first video of yours I’ve seen and I really liked it. The only thing I think you could have added would be a discussion of how fast that bike goes full throttle in first gear. I think that’s a wake up call for people as well. Keep up the good work.
That's why I like my cruisers, I putz around like an old fuck and enjoy the scenery
I can die in a recliner at home. Why add a motor? Superbikes is what motorcycles tried to be from their first iterations, hence people souping up their old bikes
The way youre going about these videos is really interesting, appreciate it as someone about to make the jump from a 400 to a 600.
I think it's because you're going into detail about a lot of things other videos just brush over. Id love to hear you talk about the differences between a 600 and a thousand
400 sport to 600 supersport is a huge huge jump! Take her easy for a while till you learn the bike. Ride safe brother🎉
Everything said in this video is exactly why I want a 1000. I’m already 100% in the mindset of respect the machine.
40 years riding, the last 2 years on a litre bike. Along the way, I owned GPZ900R, CBX, KZ1300 and 20 others.
A litre bike is easy to ride, fast and slow. The difference is, for a rider with low skill. You will get to a speed where you need extreme skill, in under 10 seconds.
The bike doesn't know who is riding, it just reacts to input. You can go from 0 to dead in under 2 breaths, don't make them your last.
the way you described the difference between cruisers and sportbikes got you a new subscriber :D
I think what you said about being attentive is what makes them a bad idea for beginners. The margin for error is the problem. 1000cc are heavier than a 300cc or 400cc motorcycles but not drastically. The power increase to a 1000cc motorcycle is drastically different though. Obviously, starting on a 1000cc motorcycle isn't impossible, it's just increases the risk that most people aren't ready for. I have a 2022 Z900 (948cc). It's my 1st bike. I bought it brand new, and I have about 11k miles on the bike. I trusted myself to not take the power and weight of that bike for granted, and I've been good so far. At the end of the day, I think riders have genuine care for the safety of other riders. Either way, you made excellent points in your video, so thank you. Continue to be safe out there 👊🏾.
Side note: what kind of gloves are you wearing?
Exactly I noticed that I was progressing really slow on my MT07 because I was just programmed to be careful on everything so I never understood the limit of riding and sometimes even become too safe that I lost confidence in making a turn or things like that.
Most people think its being "safe" but its more about being attentive, having good judgement and taking action before its too late. "Respecting the throttle" dosen't really do shit because all you're doing is being mindful of the bike instead of scanning your environment. When you need to hard brake until you stoppie you'll freeze and crash because you haven't got the experience or not ready for the situation.
Probably got lost in the other comments but asked before what gloves are they bro ?
Nintendo Switch gloves
Bison
@@skyoom1 thanks bro didn't realize they were all custom actually really nice since its kind of hard to find gloves in colors I want
Very well presented demonstration. I've been driving manual transmission cars for the past 12 years or so, and I love the engagement whilst driving. I dont understand why people would want a DCT/automatic when owning a sports car--it takes all of the fun and skill out of driving, IMO.
I've been researching bikes for the past several months and I'm considering getting an R7 for my first bike. It seems like the sweet spot for a street bike, IMO, and I love the torque/power curve it has, especially for the streets.
I may consider getting a 600 at some point afterwards, but I think that's as far as I'll go. Perhaps I may change my mind over time, but I think I'll be content with the R7 for quite a while lol.
Again, fantastic video. It really puts into perspective how powerful liter bikes are to those that already don't understand. I already knew they were like this, but like many people have said, I've really never seen anyone demonstrate it this way on RUclips. I think a lot of people that intended on buying liter bikes are reevaluating that decision after watching this video.
You saved lives and prevented injuries with this video.
👍🏼
Regards from India.
Nice detailed video.
Been riding street since the late 80s, dirt since I was a kid in the 70s. Sold my liter bike last year as I never rode it much, as I spend most of my time on my Super Tenere. Ya, I went from sport bike guy to an ADV dork, but hey, at least I'm not on a bagger, that will have to wait until I hit 70! What I turned into as a rider is described perfectly at 8:38 which is aided and abetted by having cruise control. I live in Colorado and there are cool far away places to see, and a big comfy ADV bike with a big tank for long range is great for that.
Liter bikes are great for experienced riders due to their broad powerbands - they effortlessly thrust around at casual RPM and that is awesome. Liter bikes are bad for new riders due to their broad powerbands as the video explains so well. Liter class bikes on the cam are ferocious things that can't really be contained on the confines on the street. I did a few track days on my sport bike, that was an eye opener when it came to what the bike was casually capable of.
Still riding a KTM 300 XC dirt bike, that keeps me sharp on the street. Bought a Husky 701 Enduro to replace my sport bike last year. Being a hooligan, I might be in more trouble on the big thumper. It is Rottweiler tuned, and it does wheelies, lots of wheelies, and being a dirt biker I am powerless to resist. I am so screwed - was safer from the cops on my sport bike 😆
Remember guys, a lot of the time, the danger in riding isn’t your own skill, it’s the unpredictable nature of other road users🫡
Stay safe out there🏍️🏍️🏍️
I went from an R3, to a 2021 MT09SP. That step up was HUGE, and yet, the MT09 is not even close to a GSXR1000 / R1. Great video
MT09 will keep up with most liter bikes until 100 mph. Then they will start pulling away fast.
@drewmoto732 yeh I'm aware. It's about 120kmh from my experiences pulling with one.
Thank you for informing our newer riders, been riding for 6 years and still watched in full. Good stuff.
I love the 1000cc super bikes. They’re the best. You’re right here. You must have excellent throttle control and you cannot take a break mentally.
Love the detail. The video feels very real. Excellent style. You're doing a great job. Keep up the good work.
I bought a Moto Morini 125 recently. I just want to enjoy local riding but have no experience of bikes. Honestly it feels fast enough to me! Great video.
Seeing you hit 60mph/100kmh with no visible change in your wrist position is insanity. That's already the speed limit on the highways where I am. Wild to think how powerful these bikes are.
This is actually super interesting and I never see simple videos like this get posted, and I say that because I’ve genuinely always wondered about the ridablity of 1st gear on a liter bike, I always assumed it was like 20mph idle speed
I was thinking of getting into motorcycle riding, this video was truly a great insight. was thinking of getting a 1000cc cuz I just happened to have money but this convinced me otherwise. I want to ride and not be bothered by everything. I live also in a busy city so I thought a 600cc street bike would be ideal. thank you sir and safe riding.
I own a2003 Suzuki GSXR 1000 that has been custom tuned (with parts) to 160 HP at the rear sprocket. It flies like you can't even imagine. 0 to 100 mph in about 4 seconds. It is no joke! I have had several lower cc bike prior to this one. You can't just get a 1000 and think you can handle it from the start. Experience is highly recommended before you get one. I have blown away mega cars like Vettes and Stangs and anything else, doesn't matter what it is (and they always want to race you, kinda funny). A gixxerr 1000 with custom engine work is only 400 or so pounds with sick power. It will keep you on edge, no matter how experienced you are. So, I completely agreeee with this guy in the video. It is a beast, plain and simple.
As a guy who always wanted to ride, but never once sat on a bike, this was really insightful; its insane how strong these machines are compared to their weight
what a great video, I started riding motobikes when i was a young boy and then transferred to street three or so years ago. Bought a klx300sm and it was the best purchase i could have made for my first street bike. Of course i wanted to go fast but something small to learn the feel of the street, riding, turning, braking, counter-steering on instinct was a life or death decision in hindsight. Got a gsxr 750 now and i can only imagine a liter bike on the road. You're playing a totally different ballgame riding that 750 around vs the supermoto. Absolutely excellent video, thank you for putting this into perspective. keep the content coming!!
This is the first explanation i’ve even heard that explains why liter bikes might not be for everyone, without suggesting “you can’t handle it”, or “i ride these, but you shouldn’t”. I can accept this way of looking at it, considering the type of riding i plan on doing- maybe i don’t “need” it. Really appreciate this video and your perspective.
I have a dyna superglide 1340 and used to have a gsxr750, and a spotrster 1200. Just bought a 2024 cbr1000rr and you are absolutely right about everything you say. They must be respected as I’ve always been taught, but the power can get you out of trouble as much as it can get you into it. They are streetable if you have the strength and awareness. Also helps to be confident and familiar with your equipment, suspension settings, brakes, control adjustments and riding maps if you have them.
Excellent POINTS I don't think anyones really told beginner riders this the way you did, its definitely needed,. SALESMAN even lie and sell newbies 1000 we had one last year do it and the guy died. 1000 means 1000% FOCUS then the addiction of speed & adrenaline drive your life & its amazing! EVEN THE BEST CYCLE RIDER IS NOT BETTER THEN THE 1000 ITS WHEN ONE THINKS THEY ARE BETTER IS WHEN THEY WRECK & MOST OFTEN DIE, Lost 3 of my friends just in the last month.
Bought a GSXR 1000 as my 1st bike, never rode anything other than a bicycle before. Hopped on and yes it’s crazy but as long as you know your limits it’s an amazing 1st bike. The power isn’t scary until you get into throttle and the suspension and brakes give real confidence cruising around and pushing the bike
You’re actually insane
I have the feeling that most people or channels speaking of liter bikes have 2 issues; 1)consider only super sport bikes and don't state it 2) consider that riders that start have zero control over the throtle and will open it completely on the first try.
It all depends on your level of skill and confidence when you get a licence. In Europe you can get the full licence directly if you are old enough and you get to practice with 600cc min bikes straight away.
Same for me, when I got my licence, I got to try many kinds of bikes. The trick is not to go full monkey and open the whole throtle as soon as you can.
I accidentally skipped to the “I love nakeds” part and had to do a double take 😂
Hello from Manchester, England. I was probably about 10 years into my riding career before getting my first litre bike. Since then, I've had a few Fireblades, and a couple of RC51's (they take some mastering!). However, nowadays, I'm back with small bikes. I've a Honda CRF300L, and an SV650.
The reasons?
Primarily because I don't ride trackdays anymore, plus they are just too frustrating for me on the road. So much power, you never get the chance here to wind them up. Too many traffic police, average speed cameras and dashcam warriors around also.
For me, it's simply more fun now to ring the neck of a slow bike on the back roads....!
You got my subscribe and I’ll tell you exactly when. When you were mentioning hitting a bump and blipping the throttle accidentally and how it changes the weight of the handle bars. I knew then you had experience and knowledge. I appreciate you giving me that info
This video should be shown in riding schools to educate new riders what bike they actually want / need
A coworker has a 1000 and told me that its absolutely no fun to ride them on the streets.
I have a 390 and love to turn my brain of and take in my surroundings.
Love my 390. Sure, there’s a lot of shifting, but it’s fun. I’m thinking about a 790, but concerned it will be too annoying.
I drove since childhood a 50cc, 2 years ago moved to 500cc and now looking for a 1000cc. I had worries if a 1000 is really for me because people told me that they are for "older" guys (I'm 22) and unpredictable, so I should look for a 600cc. Now after listening to your thoughts about the topic I'm 100% sure 1000cc is definitely for me. I love challenges and I'm not a guy who's afraid of power. The beast is not as scary as they were telling.
I can agree with what you're saying. I know exactly 1 guy that started on an open class bike. But he is a very thoughtful, careful guy. Bike #2 was a Hayabusa because his Blackbird wasn't enough (I assume). A Blackbird has softer edge than a GSXR or ZX10 though, more Sport Tourer.
Then there's the fact that, when you really gas it up on a 1000cc sport bike, maybe you the top of 2nd or 3rd, you're past 100mph (I think one of them did 104mph at redline in 1st), and people don't realize how fast they're going when they get to the turn, then run off into the trees or the dirt, without even trying to make the turn.
And at low speeds, parking lots, traffic etc., I ride them like a dirt bike, lots of clutch action. And if you aren't focused, don't ride the bike.
I ride an mt07. Guaranteed the smile on my face is just as wide as everyone else. Perfect bike for me and glsd to be riding
Honestly I’ve had a 1000 and I love my aprilla rs660
Light ,comfortable,every option and fast enough to get into too much trouble in the city.
Cool video
Rs660 is one of my favorite bikes being made right now, most underrated engine on the market if you ask me
Thanks for shedding a little light on this topic. I love to get new riders out riding but it flat out sucks seeing them get too spirited too soon and eat it. God forbid they get hurt and never have interest to ride again or worse they get themselves killed. I try to always tell riders, "Don't go looking for adventure, let the adventure find you" . I've found that displacement is less of the issue and lack of understanding to being the leading problem with a lot of these crashes. People who go from traveling 85+ mph in a car to that on a bike assume the physics are the same and they are NOT . I'll even go as far as to say that people traveling 85+ mph in a car seldom understand the physics at play on 4 wheels let alone 2. We see football players colliding with each other at a combined speed of about 25-35mph and get career ending TBIs. We're traveling 3x-4x that speed but simply don't appreciate the potential for catastrophe. Riding motorcycles is one of the most freeing and uplifting experiences one can ever enjoy but please do so with the proper mindset. Ride well and live. Ride Defensively. Start slow and work your way up. Lastly don't treat the street like the track. There are too many variables on the roads where the tracks eliminate as may of those as possible. If you want to really get a thrill sign up at your local and get a day or weekend of instruction. That small amount will stick with you forever and your toolbox of knowledge will increase while your risk will decrease.
Worked as a salesman for 6 years at Honda shop. I rode 3 in that time and only because the new guys would drop them. I hate them. HATE them. So unbelievably uncomfortable, so hard to keep cool, so so much power for no reason. Plus the price tag…. We had a 1/32 Honda track bike. Was like 80k in a glass box. I had to move the stupid thing 25 feet. I set hundreds of packing blankets on the ground around the path and then put the bike on casters. Absolute pucker moment. But tbh if I had the skill and $$ for track bike a 1000c would be so so much fun.
My first "road bike" was a R1200GS a few years ago and was so happy I went with this bike. But I've been riding a dirtbike (KTM 350 XCF-W) for 10 years. So I knew how to modulate power via the clutch and had good bike handling skills needed for the trails. For experienced dirt riders I would not be afraid of 1000cc + bike IMO.
Im just over 2 years on 2 wheels. I moved up from a cbr250 to a gaxs750 last year and it is a WORLD of difference. My wife learned and started on a r6. B4 i met her, She eventually totalled it but walked away. She encouraged me to start small and work my way up. Glad i did. 750cc is all i need. Couldnt imagine riding a 600/1000cc... yet. And if i never do, thats cool.
Started with a ninja 400 for my first 2 years from 16-18 then onward ive had my Z1000. I absolutely love everything about my Z and have done everything to it i wish to. Ceramic breaks, flashed, yoshimura straight lipe exhaust everything. But with all this said its more important than anything that i systted with that 400 so i could fully learn what a bike can do before uograding and expanding my possibilities. I still remember my first reaction to my z1000 being astonished and amazed at what i had gotten feeling like i was holding onto the horns of a bull. Granted now ive gotten used to it and dream of getting an h2 but even now i still reccomend nobody to start with a 1000 as it legitimately will horribly injure you.
Great video, I ride a GSXS 1000 and am very thankful I rode otehr bikes before it. But now that I'm used to it, the 1000 is the safest bike for me, I can accelerate or brake out of any problem on the road. I a lot don't realise with more HP bikes have the better the brakes get. I feel a lot less in control of a 650cc bike because the brakes are nothing. Yes big bikes are twitchy, but your wrist has a lot more fine control than your foot, so it's easier than you think if you're coming from an only car background.
The key thing is experience. Don’t let your confidence out-pace your experience level EVER. Always keep your confidence in check and if you’re feeling cocky, it’s time to get off the bike and chill the F out and have a serious talk with yourself!
I never understood what people were talking about when they say about bikes being too fast.... Only as fast as you want to go. You could ride this like a 125 if you wanted to and never go above 60mph.
Wonderful video! Never seen anyone break it down like this. Thanks and ride safe!
I went through the MSF course and got my license recently. A guy in my group was a new rider (stalling a lot, difficult riding) and was showing everyone his new 1000cc he bought. I hope he’s okay.
I have the crossplane Yamaha R1 2010, very low mileage. It is an absolute lumpy pig to ride around the city at low speeds doing "stop-start-stop-start" between traffic jams and traffic lights. Out in the open roads its fun, providing there are few cars and no traffic jams.
I miss the old days when there was less traffic, less cameras and less traffic police.
Go for a sport bike for the looks and how it makes you feel, but practicality would be supernakeds all the way. Sadly.
I got my licence the day I didn't have to ride with any type of restrictions when I was 21. That was 25 years ago. I got myself a 1998 GSXR 600. I then spent the next few years avoiding people trying to kill me at every possible opportunity.
I stayed on 600's and 750 twins until 2021 when I fell in love with a 2009 R1 Big Bang. It took me at least 5 months till I felt I was in full control riding with "spirit". I've done a lot of track driving in cars with the very rare bike trackday here and there so I had a decent amount of respect for a machines limits but it's totally different to riding on the roads.
I wouldn't recommend to any new rider that a moped, 600, 750 or 1000 is a good idea until they have learned how bad other people are at driving and spent a few years learning road sense.
Agreed 100 💯 with everything you said great video. Beginners don’t get a 1000cc superbike you’ll get yourself killed. My Ducati v4s is 1103cc you need 1000% focus at all times. Another thing to get better on your machine is track days.
One of the best videos concerning this specific subject, thank you.
I daily a 2018 gsxr 1000. I really enjoyed this video, this is a bike that demands absolute attention, focus, and respect when riding. Exactly like you said, if you're not giving it you're full attention, a twitch in the throttle can be catastrophic. IMO, once I got used to it, I enjoyed taking it out anywhere, whether its twisty highways or low speed city roads. Ride safe my man.
This dude knows his stuff. I just got a naked CB1000r and though it’s powerful it’s more manageable than a CBR1000rr. Glad I went this route.
The focus and attention required to ride is exactly why I am always exhausted after day or night riding.
Bought a Suzuki GX as my first street bike. Very approachable liter bike that is super comfortable. As long as you ride within your limits and understand the power behind the motor. I don't see an issue buying a liter bike.
I've only ever ridden 1000cc sportbikes, but the first time I ever hit the throttle stop and left it there was on a racetrack. It was slightly terrifying. Now I only ride track.
The amount of views this video has shows peoples mindset. Everybody wants the biggest and baddest bike. I would have thought the video on Ergos would have had more views. Keep up the good work. Love to see the growth
If only I had ever heard of a “low skill floor” in all my 62 years……
100% agreed, they do take attention and some skill to ride comfortably.
As a MSF coach for many years, I can tell you that the issue is when an inexperienced rider is presented with an emergency situation. They do not have the skills or fine motor control to avoid "grabbing" and handful of brake or throttle while operating the bars and body position properly to control the power. No shame or lack of fun with a smaller bike.
As someone who had to start on a 125cc because I’m from germany, I’m very glad that I learned riding on a small bike before being given the option of high power motorcycles
It takes time and experience to understand what these motorcycles do. Starts gentle, milliseconds later a different story.
Totally agree. I had a ZX-6R (I have a Street Triple now) and that thing demanded 100% focus all the time. Riding it felt like nothing else, but even a one hour ride generally left me exhausted. Amazing machine, freaking loved it.
Wow excellent points. I've never heard that argument of its a bike that will focus all of your attention to it. The power is there like you said, but if requires a rider who is willing to accept they're going to be busy with their own attention span rather than how hard they can hang on. Cool shit, man. Thanks for this
I went from CBR650R to MT10 SP. Im more of a cruise and relax person. The mt10 can be kind and rideable. But i have to admit the fear of god reaching higher rpm on it for the first time. Yeh, mt10 is not a R1 but it was still a big jump from 650.
This man is spot on,bravo!
The absolute control over the throttle is what I enjoy
Excellent presentation!!! Due to my age; I recently opted for a more relaxed riding position with a Suzuki GSX-S1000F for a slightly more comfortable ride with nearly as much power and speed as a Supersport bike. Even with the slightly de-tuned K5 GSXR 1000 engine, a lot of the same principles still apply... with the de-tuned k5 engine; this bike's powerband is slightly different... with more torque in the lower to midrange with still some decent power in the higher rpm range. Just my observation if someone were considering a slightly different but similar experience to a gixxer. Keep up the great work with the content. ITS MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
Man, I've never seen a video that puts things this well into perspective! Ride safe brother, thanks for sharing this video. Subscribed, now going to watch rest of your videos.
Sometimes RUclips algorithm does recommend quality videos.
I've been riding a long time and been on many different bikes and this is the most well stated 1000cc super sport explanation I've ever heard. Very similar to explaining 450cc moto cross bikes to people just how crazy they are.
Hell no! 9 miles is a lot faster than what I thought
I have a 1987 Yamaha Fazer 700 as my first bike and started to ride about a two months ago. A carbureted 20-valve motor that’s making roughly 86hp doesn’t sound like a lot. But it is enough to pull 4s in a 0-60 at half throttle, while pulling my 6ft, 210lb ass up a hill in third gear. I’m still learning how to use this power in an efficient and safe manner without getting into harms way. Start small, it might save your life when you make a mistake.