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This man has done Oppenheimer, Late Night w/ the devil, Ant-Man 1 and 2, Suicide Squad 2, season 6 of The Flash and so much more. Guarantee Future Oscar winner!
I love him acknowledging that he is basically a professional "creepy guy" and that the little girl's method of getting into character even creeped him out. He seems like a self-aware, funny, and solid dude.
I didn't see if anyone else mentioned it, but Carmichael's melting death was also foreshadowed earlier when Jack describes him as "All wax and no wick."
James leaning into the theme of each movie with his costume/character is always a fun part of the kill counts, but he's clearly having such a blast with this one especially. Glad to see this movie getting the attention it deserves too, I have a real soft spot for found footage movies taking the form of a TV show after "Ghostwatch" (though that was a TV special).
@@mulder801 Right? I was admittedly too young to have witnessed its premiere, but seeing it years later as a horror fanatic I was really impressed by how well they shot it all and how authentic they kept it. It was a chilling Halloween watch for sure. The behind the scenes stuff is so fascinating too! It says a lot about how well it was done when the BBC insisted on putting in things to help reassure the public it was fictional (and then some of those steps ironically making people believe it more lol). It's definitely a classic for me.
There was a British show in 1992 called Ghostwatch which had a similar premise. It was presented as a typical British show on Hallowe'en where they go to an allegedly haunted house and the show is gradually taken over by the paranormal. It was so convincing that allegedly one person who tuned in late and missed the disclaimer at the beginning, thought it was real and it sadly contributed to his commiting suicide. It is worth a watch as it is very well done and has a great atmosphere.
There's also a film called Saikou: The Large Family, that also has a similar premise. A mockumentary about a family that suddenly turns paranormal, with a GREAT twist when you rewatch the film.
In 17:20 when she says when we were up in the trees she means the demon that the girl is possessed by is the same demon that Jack made a deal with for all of this to happen
No...only half true. The Tall Trees are the location of the Owl Party. Where politicians etc. meet under the redwood trees. It was in the intro. He made the pact you mentioned in that location.
Honestly my favorite part of seeing this in theaters was watching the seemingly unending studio intros and everyone getting increasingly confused until the actual movie began. I kept thinking of Mike from killer klowns going "Another door?!?"
This is what indie movie makers unfortunately have to go through to get a budget for movies. If one company gets mentioned all would want to be mentioned.
I absolutely ADORED the Christou bit in the beginning of the movie. In a very short amount of time it establishes a lot of things: - It's perfectly poking fun at cringe-worthy "psychic" shows. - Still manages to show why some of those acts CAN be effective against people mourning the loss of someone close to them. - Shows the dangers of charismatic performers (He fails miserably at first yet STILL manages to win some of the audience over in the next act by pulling some heartstrings). - Gives the audience an actual creepy moment by showing how Christou actually loses control of his act and body (He suddenly stops using the accent and of course his eyes rolling to the back of his head whilst he screams in pain and terror was AMAZING!)
i loved the hypnosis scene. carmichael seemingly losing control over the hypnosis and yelling ''dreamer awake'' being foreshadowing was SO GOOD.. the worms genuinely made my skin crawl and the big eye worm was just the cherry on top! by the time jack was stabbing his ''wife'' i was yelling at the screen that it was actually the girl LMFAO
The twist and third act of this film is exactly what I have been wanting out of a horror film. That and Longlegs have brought me so much joy this year in terms of (sort of) cosmic horror
Fun fact: IFC films did a a retro style show video called Monster Shock Theater with Martin Monster, which is presented as a show that aired before the events of the movie. Even David Dastmalchian shows up as Jack and has an interview with the host.
When my wife was diagnosed with cancer, we watched a lot of Svengoolie while she was recovering from surgery, chemo and radiation. Thankfully she's fully in remission now. So I appreciate a Svengoolie shoutout.
I had to explain to my friends who Svengoolie was when I laughed a little at the reference bc they just looked at me like "???". Nice to see the show getting a shout out.
I kid you not I saw Late Night with the Devil in theaters and I, along with a random guy in the same row, lost our minds with how many company cards there were. Like insane giggling from us both as we thought it was over just for another company card to pop up.
I couldn't stop myself from saying, "What the FUCK is happening?" just a bit too loudly, and everyone else in the theater laughed progressively harder as the cards kept going and going...
I work in a movie theater. I have never been more scared while working there when I did a theater check of this movie. I walked in right when the child head split about and started killing people. When she looked at the camera and it started zooming in on her, I ran out of the auditorium
I think the demon was in possession of Madeline’s soul considering she was what was sacrificed for Jack’s success. She was brought along for the ride against her will by the demon who looked forward to seeing Jack again and ruining his night. She was communicating to Jack how much he fucked her over and I think him putting out of her misery was symbolic of him accepting responsibility for what he did, representing the end of his success (cause of ya know, EVERYTHING that just happened on camera) and thus, she is set free when he kills Lilly as the demon no longer has a reason to keep her or be there.
@@disneyboy3030 That’s the ambiguity. Either he’ll be sent to the nut house for presumably murdering a bunch of people on live TV (cause maybe the demon made him and/or everybody else hallucinate) OR…proof of demonic possession was just captured on live camera and he’ll be forced to answer a lot of questions. Maybe expose others at the ritual. Perhaps he’ll be put on trial for Lilly’s murder and they’ll have to decide whether demonic possession is actually a defence but this time they have proof of it lol.
When I saw this film for the first time, I thought that Jack was stuck in everyone’s TVs forever as a form of torture by the demon. Sort of a “you care about the show so much, why don’t you stay in it forever?” I was admittedly disappointed that this wasn’t the case. I also like to think that Lily was using her demonic powers at the end to get Jack to put her out of her misery. I don’t imagine it would be very fun to be possessed by a demon.
If you watch the movie, the cult talks about sacrificing people that have the demon in them so it can spread to whoever watches the sacrifice. The final line in the transmission saying "and so it is done" with jack sacrificing lilly implies, to me, that anyone watching the broadcast that night would be inhabited with that spirit.
I see Minnie as a projection that Abraxas uses to manipulate Jack. Since Jack accidentally sold her life for fame, her soul now belongs to Abraxas and can to used to do his bidding. Minnie actually appears in a few reflections throughout the film, showing that the demon is always present and waiting for something. By the end, Abraxas uses Minnie's visage to manipulate Jack into killing Lilly on live television. It was said earlier that anyone who witnesses the sacrificial cult ritual becomes influenced by Abraxas, which was the demon's ultimate goal. By doing the sacrifice on live television, Abraxas is able to spread his power all over the country to anyone watching.
@@chwenhoou Same! And that she's among the few survivors that isn't under the demon's thrall (since the ending seems to hint he's sent out into the world to possess everyone via the TV/broadcast networks). Kinda reminds me of the Evil Dead tribute episode from the Creepshow series! ^^
If James and Chelsea ever decide to go full TV hosts, they would absolutely kill it. They have the charisma, the voice, the personality, the face. They both for sure have the chops for late night hosting. (Just as long as it doesn't turn out like this movie, but they've seen enough horror movies to know what to avoid, I believe in them)
I loved this movie, what made it cooler is that Jack’s wife Madeleine can be briefly seen throughout the TV showing - not just when they rewind the cameras after the demonic possession skit. And the perspective change when we enter the nightmare realm is on point. Great video!
She shows up so much, and I saw an excellent theory that everything that happened was her as an angry spirit. She shows up on. A tv backstage, on the mirror on the desk, and several more blatant times throughout, but the creepiest was when she was standing behind him with her hand on his shoulder because you weren’t quite sure what you saw at first. An excellent movie, and her appearances throughout reminded me of the game Immortality.
one of my mates dads is best friends with the directors, and they never expected this film to gain as much traction as it did. can't wait to watch this kill count!
I always thought that during the scene where he sees Madeleine suffering was meant to show how even at death she wasn’t in peace and was suffering because of Jack’s actions
David Dastmalchian is SO fucking good in this. He just nails the whole vibe of the 70s radio/tv show host. Honestly, I’m not sure any other actor could’ve gotten me to emotionally connect to a character named Polka Dot Man.
@@JordanWheeler1999 I don’t remember saying otherwise. I’m saying that he made me emotionally connect to a ridiculous character that I wasn’t expecting.
@beautifulmidnight I don't think characters are ridiculous, they are unique in their own way. I remember the spiderverse directors looking at spot and said the samething about him and I was disappointed at them. But who knows I respect the hell out of comicbook character creators for making something different
9:48 - You missed a moment with Jack's wife appearing in the mirror. Also later on when Gus talks to the skeptic guy, the demon face flashes on the TV behind them.
David Dastmalchian has quickly become one of my favourite actors. He's so good at getting into his roles without being pretentious about them-there's always a very human quality to his performances. I've heard nothing but nice things about him as a person, which always makes me happy. He's also from Allentown, PA, which was a steel plant town that suffered hard times when that plant shut down. My hometown of Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario (which is where In a Violent Nature was made!), shares that story with Allentown, so I feel a kinship with people from Allentown. Lastly, I think David Dastmalchian is just. So insanely cute. He's so handsome, and has this sort of puppydog look. I hope he becomes an A-lister, but I also hope that, in addition to high-production films like Oppenheimer, he keeps doing movies like Late Night with the Devil. I just love him. EDIT: this is unrelated to my David Dastmalchian lovefest, LOL. At 5:22, James says that Jack's wife Madeline is "not an ice queen at all". I can't believe I missed that the first time I watched this Kill Count. Her actress, Georgina Haig, played Elsa in Season 4 of Once Upon a Time. Thank you SO MUCH for that, James and Isabella-James for your script-writing and Isabella for your research.
16:46 yeah that's kind of problem with AI art. From what I can gather, AI art can't really seem to draw hands that well and it usually sticks out like a sore thumb.
I fuck around a lot eith AI art and its it's the hands are by far the hardest. The next one is emotions with closed eyes. Hands are tricky trying to generate cause of the proportions. Unless they're closed or pressed against something they'll stick out badly.
I'm so sad about the use of AI art. It couldn't have been hard to find someone to do a few little doodles for the interlude screens, even for cheap. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and say they just weren't aware of the problems with it but even then......
I watched this twice. Once at home and once on a plane on my way back from Mexico. The flight attendants saw me watching it and were like "Is that Late Night with the Devil? " I'm like yeah it's a great film and they're like we can't wait to see it.
Imagine watching this movie and a flight attendant(s) saw you watching a lesser-known movie that they were familiar with, that enhances the experience.
It does. The fire was supposed to sacrifice all 10 of them, but Lily made it out. Jack finally killing Lily offically allows the lesser demon serving under Abraxis (Mr Biggles) to enter into the world, which is why at the very end the text shifts from End Transmission to "So It Is Done". Evil WAS literally allowed into everyones living rooms that night: Anyone watching Night Owls at Lilys death gave open passageway for the demons influence to enter and spread.
This year’s Kill Counts are the best kill counts we have ever gotten. Pearl, Smile, Lost Boys, Orphan: First Kill, Nope, M3GAN, and Late Night With The Devil. These kill counts have been helping me through one of the shittiest years of my life. They’re so good.
You're not the only one who has been seeking out The Kill Count and The Dead Meat Podcast to cope with bad times. The past three years have been horrific for me, some of the lowest I've been in my life. On the days that are the worst, I watch both and try to focus on James, the movies and the kills, as well as Chelsea and James on the podcast. The bad times won't always be here. I had three horror movies tied for my favorite film of the year. That has to mean something good, right?
10:08 The best way to get people to understand is… no one’s made they used it. More that it sets up for the future where greedy execs realize they can get away with using ai as opposed to people and they fully switch. Could kill graphic design.
7:20 I got to meet Colin Cairnes at a Q and A for this movie in Melbourne, Australia. I asked him what was the difficult part about making this film and it was using specific cameras for tv talk shows as the cinematography in this film. He even went to the same university I go to, RMIT University. That was one of my favourite cinema experiences ever.
I am so glad David Dastmalchian finally got to play a lead role. After seeing him in Ant-man, Dark Knight, and God only knows so many supporting roles, I'm happy to see him in a role that suites his ability. I've yet to see this movie, but knowing Dastmalchian is in it, I know it will be good.
@@JordanWheeler1999 im pretty sure its something more common in indie productions where a lot of companies chip in because it isnt one giant studio doing it themselves
I think the big danger with AI art is that it's Pandora's box. Once it starts catching on, everybody is going to use it, which is bad both for millions of jobs and for the looming threat of AI getting smarter. All I ask is that we keep it in check. I wish that were easy.
@@YourAveragePlayer432 I wish I could see everything in black and white like you. It makes understanding and context obsolete. So much easier to stand on a pedestal.
@@minuette1752Careful... Don't want to get called a "communist"... Which is usually mistaken for having Socialist views and/or opinions. Anyway... I agree. UBI for all! Let machines do the hard, physical work. That's what they're for, right?
I would LOVE to see a cut of this movie that gets rid of the behind the scenes parts and replaces it with television commercials from the 70s like we’re watching an actual live broadcast 😂
A curse of low budget filmmaking I suppose. You can actually see there’s a frame of static when his head is being turned around to cover up the shoddy effect. I don’t mind though, I think it looks fine in motion.
This is one of the best horror movies I’ve ever seen, it didn’t need to be anything big. I watched this on a flight and I can say that I was hooked from the beginning, a feeling of not knowing what was going on mixed with hope of something major to happen. I had never been on the edge of my seat for a horror movie before waiting to find out what’s going to happen next, it was building pure suspense till the end. Then the end just messes with you to the point of wondering is what you watched even real and how did we even get here? David Dastmalchian gave a perfect performance and I couldn’t see anyone else in the role, he deserves more leading roles. Can’t wait to get the made into a VHS tape for the collection.
That was my homie who played Cleo James! Im glad James was as bummed as I was that segment got cut 😂 She was happy to get the role no matter how short, but this is amazing
I just wanna say everything James does is so comforting to watch everything about him is top tier. His content, his voice, his humor, his input and opinion on each and every video he’s doing a movie abt and how he researches and actually dives deep into the movies he’s reviewing. I’ve been watching for years and honestly this channel is my comfort show and I didn’t realize it til now so thank you James, ur hard work doesn’t go unappreciated.
I always get so caught off guard whenever James makes an Outer Wilds reference, they're spread out across these videos _just_ enough for me to keep forgetting that he has in fact played that game 😭
As someone who has went to seminars on AI a few years ago, I do think the precedent the film set was a reasonable concern for the time. Nobody really knew how generative AI worked then and it was REALLY good when people weren’t looking hard. However I do think that the way LNWTD used it is harmless in the long-run. For the uninitiated, some employees at OpenAI and other similar companies are coming out to say that AI is kind of a sham. It basically is a high-end equivalent of the autocorrect on your phone for images. It also “cannibalizes itself” very frequently, basically the data it gets from looking at images online gets corrupted by absorbing other AI images into its dataset. (Kinda funny how something so big on the internet fails at this basic aspect of scaling) Between that and people hiding their data from generative AI with better browsers and encryption is literally killing AI by starving it. (again funny how a robot can be killed by a basic consequence of organic biology) Additionally, the datasets AI pull from make it impossible for them to come up with detailed creative concepts that follow a process of thought like a human. They just mash random shit together as they’re told. So if you’re actually making a creative concept, it is a TERRIBLE idea to use generative AI. (I.E., why AAA studio games seem so soulless, it’s because they got forced to use it to make the concept art) I’m yapping like this to quell the fears of real artists in a way that doesn’t make me sound like an AI bro. The way AI functions *currently* cannot replace y’all, it’s just not complex enough. And it probably never will be, because companies are catching onto this too and are slowly pulling AI out of their services. And OpenAI is just a bunch of grifters trying to seem technologically advanced. To the artists reading this, if a client turns to AI to make something. It was probably just a piece of soulless corporate art anyways, don’t bother wasting your talent on that. And to the AI bros reading it, ironically the solution to the “AI basically being an image autocorrect with 38 GPUs taped onto it” problem is actually pretty simple to correct. But I don’t wanna start the apocalypse so imma let you find that out yourself. 🥰 This a Dead Meat comment section homies, let’s be good people!
thank you so much man. i am an artist and this whole thing is scaring me so fucking much. my dad is extremely pro-ai and it pisses me off to no end because of how stubborn he is and i've seen increasingly more worrying ai related scandals lately (like what happened with meta and instagram) so i'm glad to hear some companies are coming back to their senses and doing something about it. you've calmed me down a tad, my only hope is that there are laws/regulations for it soon because people are taking advantage of the fact there are none to get their way.
The worms scene was so crazy. I had no clue what was going on. And when the guy goes “oh god” right after winking to the camera as if he just realized this isn’t an act. But then bam, he actually was messing with everyone. I was so confused and disturbed. Good movie.
If you hired someone off fiverr, then some folks would complain about a feature film using fiverr to hire someone. That they exploited the hired person, or the quality of the stills weren't great.
I truly think that Minnie is the real “villain” or “force” is probably a better way to put it, behind all of this. She’s pissed at Jack for basically selling her soul for ratings and then immediately finding someone else so she’s destroying the show while ruining Jack’s reputation. That’s why he’s not dead at the end. He has to live with it.
I haven’t heard that take before, and honestly I could see it being true! I initially thought Car would end up being the devil and set everything up(until his death of course lol). Then I started looking into it more, and believed the whole thing could’ve been set up by The Grove after watching the rest of the film. Never even thought about how much more involved Madeleine was in all of it!
@@lovestumacher the Grove is definitely the catalyst of all the events, but I truly think that this is karma from Minnie. “Hell hath no fury” type deal, ya know. That’s why in his psycho vision him killing her is killing the demon. She’s like, “Now release me and deal with it.” I may be way out there, but I think it’s cool.
She wouldn't have had the power to make him famous while she was alive or inspire a cult. There has to be an Abraxas, Minnie is just the sacrifice used to torture Jack who made the Demon's bargain.
@@TheLegPumpkin idk, she’s the first contact of the night. Minnie is the first entity mentioned and ultimately seems to kill Kristeau, Abraxas was barely even brought up yet except in the opening montage. I do agree that her being that powerful kinda makes no sense, but like the saying goes, “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” what if in this case that is taken literally and her fury is given power as a repentance of what he did and they use her anger as the starting point. Idk. I agree it’s not perfect.
@@TheLegPumpkin all in all your take definitely makes the most sense, but it’s an interesting thought to think Minnie’s in charge. Cause then you could even interpret the title of the movie differently, Jack being the Devil in this case, or Abraxas is just fucking with Jack and using the death of his wife as a cruel twist of the knife. That very much works.
People who is anal and crying about ai should probably rethink there lives, to me it isn't that deep, when looking at the arts from the movie I thought all of them are cool to look at
@@JordanWheeler1999 It is that deep man. People loose their jobs to this shit. Luckily it seems like that wasn’t the case for this movie, but using the technology still sets a bad precedent, imo. It’s part of the reason why the actors/writers strike happened. People are scared they’re going to lose their jobs, and to think that’s not serious is kinda crazy.
@@RangerW36 The thing is; this is going to be the norm now. If you aren't going to support a small indie film for using A.I, you aren't going to support ANY film in the near future 🤷♀️ A.I is a tool just like any other technology we use to make movie making easier. It has to be integrated in a way that doesn't take away from people making money, but this is like saying CGI is going to ruin the film industry. Technology advancing past humans is not going to stop anytime soon.
@@who_be_dis8356 ALL these little radicals out here typing on their sweatshop Iphones saying how their morals won't let them support an industry where people get fucked over.... Hahaha
I've never promoted my own channel on here, but I interviewed James Randi about 10 years ago at the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival. There was a documentary made about him called "An Honest Liar". We talk about the Warrens, but he never said they were frauds.
As an artist myself, the main issue with ai is that it steals from actual artists. And the fact that they already had people capable of doing those cards on the team meant they didn’t have to use ai
@@jameshill4589 This movie used three, and also? yeah basically? using ai when real artists deserve to be paid is a really shitty thing to do, but i dont think these creators are horrible people or anything, i think they did this before the whole ai thing became a huge controversy and just saw it as a quick way to cut corners at the time.
Completely took me by surprise when I found out this was directed by Aussies and filmed here in Melbourne. It's just so... 'American' Also Vicscreen is an agency belonging to the Victorian Government in Australia that provides support for locally produced and distributed films, for anyone who's curious.
Yay I'm really happy that you guys are covering this film on the kill count big fan of both the film and your videos. What I liked best about this film when I covered it on my channel was how it handled backstory and basically hinted at things throughout the running time that might have happened to the main character off-screen during his wife's passing. I'm a big fan of the deal-with-the-devil trope in horror films because it essentially gives you an insight into a characters overall personalty and what they are willing to do to fix a mistake, gain fame and fortune or just get something that they have always wanted for a small price. I know I'm kind of gushing over the story in the comment section of a RUclips show about count the kills but storytelling is my bread and butter on my channel. But all I have to say is thanks again James and the team over at Dead Meat for the video, all the best and keep up the good work 👍😊
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After the events of the movie, Jack Delroy was sent to prison for the fiasco that occurred on his show. Later on, he breaks out of prison, and hides with his mother who works at Star Labs in Central City. She infects him with an inter-dimensional virus as part of a long series of experiments, and he gets deadly polka-dot powers. Afterwards, Jack changes his name to Abner Krill, and moves to Gotham City. He loses his mind, becomes the Polka-Dot man, and he gets sent back to prison thanks to the Batman. This eventually leads to the events of “The Suicide Squad” (2021), where Abner dies on his first mission with the Suicide Squad.
For anyone who didn't catch it, at the end of the interview with Madeleine, you can her mouth "I love you" to Jack, to which he whispers very quietly, "I love you too, Minnie."
You guys have made fantastic content for years and I have been watching the whole time. Thank you James, Zoran, Chelsea, and the whole team behind dead meat, we love you guys.
I thought this was such a fun and clever film in how it uses its tropes. Love how even the show title involves owls. I was hyped to see it and it didn’t disappoint. Fantastic performances.
I met David Dastmalchian at a Convention a few years back. Was a sunday afternoon and he was one of 2 celebrities that were still at their booth with no fans or visitors anymore. I only knew him from Ant-Man but put down my last 20 Euro for an autograph and had a little chat. Very nice guy, super friendly and we talked a bit about my Always Keep Fighting shirt :D Have that autograph hanging on the wall right under the one from Ricky Whittle as Shadow Moon (also nice guy - brought a boom box to the session. Was a lot of fun XD).
@@PlatyNews oh yeah I guess I never thought of that but I mean, I could see him doing The Sixth Sense where like revealing that a character is a ghost is their death, given that each ghost has like a visual representation of how they died, but that’s a good point. I guess, I’d never really realized that. I’m just surprised we didn’t get a kill count of The Happening yet.
I'm not gonna lie, as a fellow Gorehound, this is the FIRST horror film that genuinely made me both legitimately scared, AND uncomfortable, it made me feel like I was watching something I wasn't supposed to be watching. Now THATS how you make a good horror movie.
Watched this movie yesterday and loved it. About time someone do something different with a demonic possession movie. Also, the DVD include an extra video, that adds 1 kill to the count.
I absolutely loved the actual review, but I just have to commend the OUTRO referencing The Beach That Makes You Old, which gets me EVERY FREAKING TIME for some reason.
Since no one seems to have said it, the editing in the To the Numbers bit was Awesome. You've upped your game to the point you could be making in house horror films that would be better than most low to mid budget stuff being produced. Keep growing and Dead Meat Studios will absolutely be a thing. X
28:08 let’s say hypothetically the beach makes you old. …the rocks. Let’s say hypothetically the rocks make you old. How much of you gets old? Does your metabolism speed up? Do you pee more frequently? I’m not going to entertain the idea that a beach can make you old
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So glad to see David Dastmalchian in a lead role finally. He is a beast in every role he plays.
Talent is an understatement
I’m sure he’ll do great in One Piece.
@@calebcarmichael2257 He is doing great since i first saw him as one of Joker's henchman in The Dark Knight back in 2008
@DodoRibeiro-ts6po That was his first movie and he was still amazing. His one-on-one with Eckhart is probably the most underrated scene in the movie.
This man has done Oppenheimer, Late Night w/ the devil, Ant-Man 1 and 2, Suicide Squad 2, season 6 of The Flash and so much more. Guarantee Future Oscar winner!
I love him acknowledging that he is basically a professional "creepy guy" and that the little girl's method of getting into character even creeped him out. He seems like a self-aware, funny, and solid dude.
I didn't see if anyone else mentioned it, but Carmichael's melting death was also foreshadowed earlier when Jack describes him as "All wax and no wick."
And how he got ‘roasted’ by half the characters early in the movie
Not just that, but they specifically say they don't want to make Gus' "Head Spin"
Such phenomenal foreshadowing in this movie
@@johnathandoe6034yeah... We saw that... In the video...
Tbh I was hoping the foreshadowing for Carmichael was getting stabbed by the dagger
James leaning into the theme of each movie with his costume/character is always a fun part of the kill counts, but he's clearly having such a blast with this one especially.
Glad to see this movie getting the attention it deserves too, I have a real soft spot for found footage movies taking the form of a TV show after "Ghostwatch" (though that was a TV special).
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They are always a fun addition but Zorans tremors run was legendary
Still James was right, David Dastmalchain’s performance was amazing. Hope he gets more leading roles in the future.
Ghostwatch! Still gives me the creeps!
@@mulder801 Right? I was admittedly too young to have witnessed its premiere, but seeing it years later as a horror fanatic I was really impressed by how well they shot it all and how authentic they kept it. It was a chilling Halloween watch for sure.
The behind the scenes stuff is so fascinating too! It says a lot about how well it was done when the BBC insisted on putting in things to help reassure the public it was fictional (and then some of those steps ironically making people believe it more lol).
It's definitely a classic for me.
There was a British show in 1992 called Ghostwatch which had a similar premise. It was presented as a typical British show on Hallowe'en where they go to an allegedly haunted house and the show is gradually taken over by the paranormal. It was so convincing that allegedly one person who tuned in late and missed the disclaimer at the beginning, thought it was real and it sadly contributed to his commiting suicide. It is worth a watch as it is very well done and has a great atmosphere.
There's also a film called Saikou: The Large Family, that also has a similar premise. A mockumentary about a family that suddenly turns paranormal, with a GREAT twist when you rewatch the film.
@@Ijustusethistocommentstuff oh hell yeah saikou mention! Love how the name is a wordplay too, no surprise there :D
@@IjustusethistocommentstuffI’m not sure if paranormal is the right word, everything that happens in the movie can definitely be explained
@@kuwakaney2443 That's why I just said there was a great twist rewatching the movie. It's technically a spoiler.
Additional fact, the BBC imposed a 10 year ban on re-airing it. For awhile it was only available on DVD, but nowadays its fairly easy to find
In 17:20 when she says when we were up in the trees she means the demon that the girl is possessed by is the same demon that Jack made a deal with for all of this to happen
No...only half true. The Tall Trees are the location of the Owl Party. Where politicians etc. meet under the redwood trees. It was in the intro.
He made the pact you mentioned in that location.
Honestly my favorite part of seeing this in theaters was watching the seemingly unending studio intros and everyone getting increasingly confused until the actual movie began. I kept thinking of Mike from killer klowns going "Another door?!?"
This is what indie movie makers unfortunately have to go through to get a budget for movies. If one company gets mentioned all would want to be mentioned.
My theater started some scattered chuckles after like the 8th one
The doors with never end :3
Another logo! Another logo? Another Logo? ANOTHER LOGO?
As a Mockery once said "Too many cooks!"
I absolutely ADORED the Christou bit in the beginning of the movie. In a very short amount of time it establishes a lot of things:
- It's perfectly poking fun at cringe-worthy "psychic" shows.
- Still manages to show why some of those acts CAN be effective against people mourning the loss of someone close to them.
- Shows the dangers of charismatic performers (He fails miserably at first yet STILL manages to win some of the audience over in the next act by pulling some heartstrings).
- Gives the audience an actual creepy moment by showing how Christou actually loses control of his act and body (He suddenly stops using the accent and of course his eyes rolling to the back of his head whilst he screams in pain and terror was AMAZING!)
The way his eyes rolled back but were kinda gray ?? So creepy
Never noticed he lost his accent. Nice catch or I suck at paying attention. Lol
i loved the hypnosis scene. carmichael seemingly losing control over the hypnosis and yelling ''dreamer awake'' being foreshadowing was SO GOOD.. the worms genuinely made my skin crawl and the big eye worm was just the cherry on top! by the time jack was stabbing his ''wife'' i was yelling at the screen that it was actually the girl LMFAO
One thing I like about the hypnosis scene was how the hands on the watch spun so fast, it turned into a hypno-wheel.
The twist and third act of this film is exactly what I have been wanting out of a horror film. That and Longlegs have brought me so much joy this year in terms of (sort of) cosmic horror
I missed minnie trying to warn/protect everyone when the glass explodes. that's such a cool and subtle thing.
I would unironically watch a late night show with David Dastmalchian as the host. He plays that part so well
Check out Grave Conversations; he is a lot more subdued than a late night host, but it’s really interesting.
Fun fact: IFC films did a a retro style show video called Monster Shock Theater with Martin Monster, which is presented as a show that aired before the events of the movie. Even David Dastmalchian shows up as Jack and has an interview with the host.
True
When my wife was diagnosed with cancer, we watched a lot of Svengoolie while she was recovering from surgery, chemo and radiation. Thankfully she's fully in remission now. So I appreciate a Svengoolie shoutout.
I had to explain to my friends who Svengoolie was when I laughed a little at the reference bc they just looked at me like "???". Nice to see the show getting a shout out.
I'm glad your wife is okay
Fellow Svengoolie fans! My people lol.
Also, great to hear your wife is doing well, f cancer.
so happy shes okay!
genuinely happy your wife is still by your side and in remission wishing you guys a long healthy life
I kid you not I saw Late Night with the Devil in theaters and I, along with a random guy in the same row, lost our minds with how many company cards there were. Like insane giggling from us both as we thought it was over just for another company card to pop up.
I watched it on streaming with my partner and we just kept looking between the TV and each other and giggling lol
I couldn't stop myself from saying, "What the FUCK is happening?" just a bit too loudly, and everyone else in the theater laughed progressively harder as the cards kept going and going...
I work in a movie theater. I have never been more scared while working there when I did a theater check of this movie. I walked in right when the child head split about and started killing people. When she looked at the camera and it started zooming in on her, I ran out of the auditorium
I think the demon was in possession of Madeline’s soul considering she was what was sacrificed for Jack’s success. She was brought along for the ride against her will by the demon who looked forward to seeing Jack again and ruining his night. She was communicating to Jack how much he fucked her over and I think him putting out of her misery was symbolic of him accepting responsibility for what he did, representing the end of his success (cause of ya know, EVERYTHING that just happened on camera) and thus, she is set free when he kills Lilly as the demon no longer has a reason to keep her or be there.
I wonder what Jack's final fate will be, as well as for his show.
@@disneyboy3030 That’s the ambiguity. Either he’ll be sent to the nut house for presumably murdering a bunch of people on live TV (cause maybe the demon made him and/or everybody else hallucinate) OR…proof of demonic possession was just captured on live camera and he’ll be forced to answer a lot of questions. Maybe expose others at the ritual. Perhaps he’ll be put on trial for Lilly’s murder and they’ll have to decide whether demonic possession is actually a defence but this time they have proof of it lol.
When I saw this film for the first time, I thought that Jack was stuck in everyone’s TVs forever as a form of torture by the demon. Sort of a “you care about the show so much, why don’t you stay in it forever?” I was admittedly disappointed that this wasn’t the case. I also like to think that Lily was using her demonic powers at the end to get Jack to put her out of her misery. I don’t imagine it would be very fun to be possessed by a demon.
That's very Twilight zone☺️
Personally that could be the case or not. It's left to your interpretation
If you watch the movie, the cult talks about sacrificing people that have the demon in them so it can spread to whoever watches the sacrifice. The final line in the transmission saying "and so it is done" with jack sacrificing lilly implies, to me, that anyone watching the broadcast that night would be inhabited with that spirit.
@@jameshill4589 Come to think of it, which Twilight Zone version is better, the original or the modern reimaging?
@@kyrohowe3156 I never got to watch the modern one! I didn't have (whatever channel it was on). But actually, I prefer The Scary Door
I see Minnie as a projection that Abraxas uses to manipulate Jack. Since Jack accidentally sold her life for fame, her soul now belongs to Abraxas and can to used to do his bidding. Minnie actually appears in a few reflections throughout the film, showing that the demon is always present and waiting for something. By the end, Abraxas uses Minnie's visage to manipulate Jack into killing Lilly on live television. It was said earlier that anyone who witnesses the sacrificial cult ritual becomes influenced by Abraxas, which was the demon's ultimate goal. By doing the sacrifice on live television, Abraxas is able to spread his power all over the country to anyone watching.
Omg! Poor Lilly
That “FUCKING BULLSHIT” after the canceling of Cleo James’ appearance was the funniest thing, oh my god
I think Cleo got the F out of Dodge after the Mr. Riggles segment. That's my head cannon, at least.
@@jaketaller8567 much appreciated
@@chwenhoou I hope so, I’d hate to have such a legendary performer be killed here
XD watch out cotton James is more pissed for Cleo james then Diane Sawyer
@@chwenhoou
Same! And that she's among the few survivors that isn't under the demon's thrall (since the ending seems to hint he's sent out into the world to possess everyone via the TV/broadcast networks). Kinda reminds me of the Evil Dead tribute episode from the Creepshow series! ^^
This film feels so American, in the best way. I wish the US would make more films like this. It took two Australians to do this one. 😂
If James and Chelsea ever decide to go full TV hosts, they would absolutely kill it. They have the charisma, the voice, the personality, the face. They both for sure have the chops for late night hosting. (Just as long as it doesn't turn out like this movie, but they've seen enough horror movies to know what to avoid, I believe in them)
I loved this movie, what made it cooler is that Jack’s wife Madeleine can be briefly seen throughout the TV showing - not just when they rewind the cameras after the demonic possession skit. And the perspective change when we enter the nightmare realm is on point. Great video!
Right?? I had a real fun time picking her out in scenes while watching with a friend.
Fun fact! If you look closely enough you can indeed see Madeline's ghost throughout the movie.
No really 👀
Would you mind giving us a few timestamps?
during the first B&W scene, you can see her standing in the mirror.
@@jaketaller8567 lmao XD
She shows up so much, and I saw an excellent theory that everything that happened was her as an angry spirit. She shows up on. A tv backstage, on the mirror on the desk, and several more blatant times throughout, but the creepiest was when she was standing behind him with her hand on his shoulder because you weren’t quite sure what you saw at first. An excellent movie, and her appearances throughout reminded me of the game Immortality.
one of my mates dads is best friends with the directors, and they never expected this film to gain as much traction as it did. can't wait to watch this kill count!
Oh that's so cool!
Hey, tell your dad that it was an interesting movie for him to tell one of the directors!
I figured the movie was somewhere across the pound
I also know him he’s been telling me about how much work the man’s been putting into this for about 2 years now love the movie
Are you British, don’t lie I can tell
I absolutely ADORE James doing the late-night host bit during the whole Kill Count. Honestly, dude would kill it as a late-night or game show host.
Aussie here.
Your shout out to SharpFX put them on my radar and now I have a job interview with them as a Mechatronics engineer.
Thanks Dead Meat.
I always thought that during the scene where he sees Madeleine suffering was meant to show how even at death she wasn’t in peace and was suffering because of Jack’s actions
David Dastmalchian is SO fucking good in this. He just nails the whole vibe of the 70s radio/tv show host.
Honestly, I’m not sure any other actor could’ve gotten me to emotionally connect to a character named Polka Dot Man.
I mean polka dot man has been played with other actors for years. People just doesn't realize it
@@JordanWheeler1999 I don’t remember saying otherwise.
I’m saying that he made me emotionally connect to a ridiculous character that I wasn’t expecting.
@beautifulmidnight I don't think characters are ridiculous, they are unique in their own way. I remember the spiderverse directors looking at spot and said the samething about him and I was disappointed at them.
But who knows I respect the hell out of comicbook character creators for making something different
Maybe Robin Williams could have done it, were he still with us.
@@coolnerdlll6053 he's dead home boi
9:48 - You missed a moment with Jack's wife appearing in the mirror. Also later on when Gus talks to the skeptic guy, the demon face flashes on the TV behind them.
David Dastmalchian has quickly become one of my favourite actors. He's so good at getting into his roles without being pretentious about them-there's always a very human quality to his performances. I've heard nothing but nice things about him as a person, which always makes me happy. He's also from Allentown, PA, which was a steel plant town that suffered hard times when that plant shut down. My hometown of Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario (which is where In a Violent Nature was made!), shares that story with Allentown, so I feel a kinship with people from Allentown. Lastly, I think David Dastmalchian is just. So insanely cute. He's so handsome, and has this sort of puppydog look. I hope he becomes an A-lister, but I also hope that, in addition to high-production films like Oppenheimer, he keeps doing movies like Late Night with the Devil. I just love him.
EDIT: this is unrelated to my David Dastmalchian lovefest, LOL. At 5:22, James says that Jack's wife Madeline is "not an ice queen at all". I can't believe I missed that the first time I watched this Kill Count. Her actress, Georgina Haig, played Elsa in Season 4 of Once Upon a Time. Thank you SO MUCH for that, James and Isabella-James for your script-writing and Isabella for your research.
16:46 yeah that's kind of problem with AI art. From what I can gather, AI art can't really seem to draw hands that well and it usually sticks out like a sore thumb.
I fuck around a lot eith AI art and its it's the hands are by far the hardest. The next one is emotions with closed eyes. Hands are tricky trying to generate cause of the proportions. Unless they're closed or pressed against something they'll stick out badly.
Badum-tiss
I'm so sad about the use of AI art. It couldn't have been hard to find someone to do a few little doodles for the interlude screens, even for cheap. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and say they just weren't aware of the problems with it but even then......
The “Turn it off!” part at the end of the movie was my favorite. I really loved this movie and I’m so glad you did a kill count on it!!
I watched this twice. Once at home and once on a plane on my way back from Mexico. The flight attendants saw me watching it and were like "Is that Late Night with the Devil? " I'm like yeah it's a great film and they're like we can't wait to see it.
It was am alr film nut glad people likes it
@@JordanWheeler1999what 💀
@@Askozra idk auto correction sucks ass Idk why it does that I agree I also had a stroke
Imagine watching this movie and a flight attendant(s) saw you watching a lesser-known movie that they were familiar with, that enhances the experience.
21:48 That frame would've been so much better and creepier than going with the incredibly pale and Photoshopped ghost
I'm pretty sure that was the intention. It was subversion, but actually going out of your way to look at the frame is kinda more frightening.
David Dastmalchian is my favorite actor. He knocks every roll out of the park.
Can't wait to see him in One Piece season 2! So excited!
Him killing Lilly with the dagger is bad cause it completes the demon ritual I think
It does. The fire was supposed to sacrifice all 10 of them, but Lily made it out. Jack finally killing Lily offically allows the lesser demon serving under Abraxis (Mr Biggles) to enter into the world, which is why at the very end the text shifts from End Transmission to "So It Is Done". Evil WAS literally allowed into everyones living rooms that night: Anyone watching Night Owls at Lilys death gave open passageway for the demons influence to enter and spread.
“FUCKING BULLSHIT” killed me 😂
This year’s Kill Counts are the best kill counts we have ever gotten. Pearl, Smile, Lost Boys, Orphan: First Kill, Nope, M3GAN, and Late Night With The Devil. These kill counts have been helping me through one of the shittiest years of my life. They’re so good.
Hang in there, it won't always be shitty. The circle turns ❤
I hope the rest of the year turns around for you! ❤
Also the Killer Klown recount.
And we got when evil lurks
You're not the only one who has been seeking out The Kill Count and The Dead Meat Podcast to cope with bad times. The past three years have been horrific for me, some of the lowest I've been in my life. On the days that are the worst, I watch both and try to focus on James, the movies and the kills, as well as Chelsea and James on the podcast.
The bad times won't always be here. I had three horror movies tied for my favorite film of the year. That has to mean something good, right?
Fun detail : at 16:26 you can
see a ghost in the small mirror on the table . Most likely Minnie's
I genuinely love this movie and David Dasmalchian. Every time he’s on screen I get excited
10:08 The best way to get people to understand is… no one’s made they used it. More that it sets up for the future where greedy execs realize they can get away with using ai as opposed to people and they fully switch. Could kill graphic design.
7:20 I got to meet Colin Cairnes at a Q and A for this movie in Melbourne, Australia. I asked him what was the difficult part about making this film and it was using specific cameras for tv talk shows as the cinematography in this film. He even went to the same university I go to, RMIT University. That was one of my favourite cinema experiences ever.
That's cool!
Saw a theory that the Skeleton is literally just Abraxas watching over the whole thing.
I am so glad David Dastmalchian finally got to play a lead role. After seeing him in Ant-man, Dark Knight, and God only knows so many supporting roles, I'm happy to see him in a role that suites his ability. I've yet to see this movie, but knowing Dastmalchian is in it, I know it will be good.
4:24 "I'm always confused when the studio logos end and the actual movie begins"
😂😂 surprised he didn’t make that reference
I remember first seeing David Dastmalchian in both Prisoners and The Dark Knight even though his roles were small, he sold it.
The number of studio introductions before the movie began was so hilarious, but also chaotic just like what was to come.
I was so confused and a bit annoyed when studios does this. Like "is this gonna be a 6 hour movie lol" 😆
@@JordanWheeler1999 im pretty sure its something more common in indie productions where a lot of companies chip in because it isnt one giant studio doing it themselves
@@ASliceOfYoyleCake i mean yah but it isn't needed because it's the same length as any other movie
I think the big danger with AI art is that it's Pandora's box. Once it starts catching on, everybody is going to use it, which is bad both for millions of jobs and for the looming threat of AI getting smarter. All I ask is that we keep it in check. I wish that were easy.
To late for that. Hopefully it replaces almost all jobs and we get a world wide UBI.
@@YourAveragePlayer432 I wish I could see everything in black and white like you. It makes understanding and context obsolete. So much easier to stand on a pedestal.
@@YourAveragePlayer432 yeah, hate on this movie and all those cast and crew who worked hard on it simply for 3 AI images. What a hero you are.
Easy?
Shit... Considering the folks in charge of such things?
"Keeping it in check" is a literal impossibility.
@@minuette1752Careful... Don't want to get called a "communist"... Which is usually mistaken for having Socialist views and/or opinions.
Anyway... I agree.
UBI for all!
Let machines do the hard, physical work. That's what they're for, right?
I would LOVE to see a cut of this movie that gets rid of the behind the scenes parts and replaces it with television commercials from the 70s like we’re watching an actual live broadcast 😂
I didn’t think Gus getting Reagan’d looked bad until I paused it-
A curse of low budget filmmaking I suppose. You can actually see there’s a frame of static when his head is being turned around to cover up the shoddy effect. I don’t mind though, I think it looks fine in motion.
This is one of the best horror movies I’ve ever seen, it didn’t need to be anything big. I watched this on a flight and I can say that I was hooked from the beginning, a feeling of not knowing what was going on mixed with hope of something major to happen. I had never been on the edge of my seat for a horror movie before waiting to find out what’s going to happen next, it was building pure suspense till the end. Then the end just messes with you to the point of wondering is what you watched even real and how did we even get here? David Dastmalchian gave a perfect performance and I couldn’t see anyone else in the role, he deserves more leading roles. Can’t wait to get the made into a VHS tape for the collection.
i love how james REALLY puts effort into making every opening stylistic to the movie he’s talking about. Amazing work!
That was my homie who played Cleo James! Im glad James was as bummed as I was that segment got cut 😂
She was happy to get the role no matter how short, but this is amazing
Nice try, Jan. Receipts 🧾
I just wanna say everything James does is so comforting to watch everything about him is top tier. His content, his voice, his humor, his input and opinion on each and every video he’s doing a movie abt and how he researches and actually dives deep into the movies he’s reviewing. I’ve been watching for years and honestly this channel is my comfort show and I didn’t realize it til now so thank you James, ur hard work doesn’t go unappreciated.
I bet this would be really cool to see adapted into a stage play and get to be actually part of the audience during the show.
This is so much like the 1992 British movie ghost watch. Both are really good.
I always get so caught off guard whenever James makes an Outer Wilds reference, they're spread out across these videos _just_ enough for me to keep forgetting that he has in fact played that game 😭
I love it so much
1:18 I love whenever James includes themes and scenes from the movies but I gotta say the ‘audience’ reactions are my favorite so far 😂❤
As someone who has went to seminars on AI a few years ago, I do think the precedent the film set was a reasonable concern for the time. Nobody really knew how generative AI worked then and it was REALLY good when people weren’t looking hard. However I do think that the way LNWTD used it is harmless in the long-run.
For the uninitiated, some employees at OpenAI and other similar companies are coming out to say that AI is kind of a sham. It basically is a high-end equivalent of the autocorrect on your phone for images. It also “cannibalizes itself” very frequently, basically the data it gets from looking at images online gets corrupted by absorbing other AI images into its dataset. (Kinda funny how something so big on the internet fails at this basic aspect of scaling) Between that and people hiding their data from generative AI with better browsers and encryption is literally killing AI by starving it. (again funny how a robot can be killed by a basic consequence of organic biology)
Additionally, the datasets AI pull from make it impossible for them to come up with detailed creative concepts that follow a process of thought like a human. They just mash random shit together as they’re told. So if you’re actually making a creative concept, it is a TERRIBLE idea to use generative AI. (I.E., why AAA studio games seem so soulless, it’s because they got forced to use it to make the concept art)
I’m yapping like this to quell the fears of real artists in a way that doesn’t make me sound like an AI bro. The way AI functions *currently* cannot replace y’all, it’s just not complex enough. And it probably never will be, because companies are catching onto this too and are slowly pulling AI out of their services. And OpenAI is just a bunch of grifters trying to seem technologically advanced.
To the artists reading this, if a client turns to AI to make something. It was probably just a piece of soulless corporate art anyways, don’t bother wasting your talent on that.
And to the AI bros reading it, ironically the solution to the “AI basically being an image autocorrect with 38 GPUs taped onto it” problem is actually pretty simple to correct. But I don’t wanna start the apocalypse so imma let you find that out yourself. 🥰
This a Dead Meat comment section homies, let’s be good people!
thank you so much man. i am an artist and this whole thing is scaring me so fucking much. my dad is extremely pro-ai and it pisses me off to no end because of how stubborn he is and i've seen increasingly more worrying ai related scandals lately (like what happened with meta and instagram) so i'm glad to hear some companies are coming back to their senses and doing something about it.
you've calmed me down a tad, my only hope is that there are laws/regulations for it soon because people are taking advantage of the fact there are none to get their way.
The worms scene was so crazy. I had no clue what was going on. And when the guy goes “oh god” right after winking to the camera as if he just realized this isn’t an act. But then bam, he actually was messing with everyone. I was so confused and disturbed. Good movie.
It's a bit sad that the movie used Ai art, like come on, you could have just hired someone off of fiverr, but I guess you can't stop Ai.
It’s sad you care this much get a girlfriend bro
If you hired someone off fiverr, then some folks would complain about a feature film using fiverr to hire someone. That they exploited the hired person, or the quality of the stills weren't great.
@@Unknown-d8q5w Sorry for having morals "bro"
@@Unknown-d8q5w lmfao whats getting a girlfriend have to do with this. Maybe take your own advice since you're projecting so much
the audience cues and talk show host demeanors during the cuts to james were a nice touch ngl
This movie reminded me of a really good Tales From The Crypt episode. I could easily see this being a great double-feature with Demon Knight.
Lilly was amazing in this film! The BTS of David talking about her getting into character was hilarious!
17:46 Pause and you can see the demon form come out for a second
8:30 Love the They Might Be Giants reference
I truly think that Minnie is the real “villain” or “force” is probably a better way to put it, behind all of this. She’s pissed at Jack for basically selling her soul for ratings and then immediately finding someone else so she’s destroying the show while ruining Jack’s reputation. That’s why he’s not dead at the end. He has to live with it.
I haven’t heard that take before, and honestly I could see it being true! I initially thought Car would end up being the devil and set everything up(until his death of course lol). Then I started looking into it more, and believed the whole thing could’ve been set up by The Grove after watching the rest of the film. Never even thought about how much more involved Madeleine was in all of it!
@@lovestumacher the Grove is definitely the catalyst of all the events, but I truly think that this is karma from Minnie. “Hell hath no fury” type deal, ya know. That’s why in his psycho vision him killing her is killing the demon. She’s like, “Now release me and deal with it.” I may be way out there, but I think it’s cool.
She wouldn't have had the power to make him famous while she was alive or inspire a cult. There has to be an Abraxas, Minnie is just the sacrifice used to torture Jack who made the Demon's bargain.
@@TheLegPumpkin idk, she’s the first contact of the night. Minnie is the first entity mentioned and ultimately seems to kill Kristeau, Abraxas was barely even brought up yet except in the opening montage. I do agree that her being that powerful kinda makes no sense, but like the saying goes, “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” what if in this case that is taken literally and her fury is given power as a repentance of what he did and they use her anger as the starting point. Idk. I agree it’s not perfect.
@@TheLegPumpkin all in all your take definitely makes the most sense, but it’s an interesting thought to think Minnie’s in charge. Cause then you could even interpret the title of the movie differently, Jack being the Devil in this case, or Abraxas is just fucking with Jack and using the death of his wife as a cruel twist of the knife. That very much works.
“You have successfully hit metal 17 times. You have won this photograph of motorcar.”
but property is theft so you are now under arrest
@@yonghong4832 fair enough
@@aquapenguin9697 you can't say fairer than fair enough
@@amanwithaplan3873 you can't say fairer than that
@@aquapenguin9697 oh drat
It's a real shame that the AI discourse overshadowed the actual movie because it's a really solid underrated gem of a film
People who is anal and crying about ai should probably rethink there lives, to me it isn't that deep, when looking at the arts from the movie I thought all of them are cool to look at
@@JordanWheeler1999 It is that deep man. People loose their jobs to this shit.
Luckily it seems like that wasn’t the case for this movie, but using the technology still sets a bad precedent, imo.
It’s part of the reason why the actors/writers strike happened. People are scared they’re going to lose their jobs, and to think that’s not serious is kinda crazy.
@JordanWheeler1999 When it stops taking people's jobs ill stop complaining
@@RangerW36 The thing is; this is going to be the norm now. If you aren't going to support a small indie film for using A.I, you aren't going to support ANY film in the near future 🤷♀️ A.I is a tool just like any other technology we use to make movie making easier. It has to be integrated in a way that doesn't take away from people making money, but this is like saying CGI is going to ruin the film industry. Technology advancing past humans is not going to stop anytime soon.
@@who_be_dis8356 ALL these little radicals out here typing on their sweatshop Iphones saying how their morals won't let them support an industry where people get fucked over.... Hahaha
This is such a damn good movie, I'm so fucking glad I saw it in theaters. Love David as well, he's an amazing actor
I've never promoted my own channel on here, but I interviewed James Randi about 10 years ago at the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival. There was a documentary made about him called "An Honest Liar". We talk about the Warrens, but he never said they were frauds.
I swear David Dastmalchian would make a great Jim jones if they ever wanted to do a biopic of some sort
22:12 “OH MY GOD HER HEAD JUST SPLIT OPEN HELL YEAH!”
Legit laughing out loud at James getting so upset at not seeing Cleo James 😂😂😂😂😂
At 2:43 I love how he sounds like Alan from smiling friends when he says devices
dirty brown waTer
21:28 "can't leave everyone hanging like this"
*Goes to an ad break*
Sometimes, RUclips ads are funny.
As an artist myself, the main issue with ai is that it steals from actual artists. And the fact that they already had people capable of doing those cards on the team meant they didn’t have to use ai
You're saying if a movie makes ONE card using AI they are wrong?
@@jameshill4589 ...Yes.
@@jameshill4589 This movie used three, and also? yeah basically? using ai when real artists deserve to be paid is a really shitty thing to do, but i dont think these creators are horrible people or anything, i think they did this before the whole ai thing became a huge controversy and just saw it as a quick way to cut corners at the time.
@@jameshill4589pretty much yeah
AI does more than just create art
Dead Meat has been killing it this year. This is seriously one of my favorite years of Kill Counts and we still have 5 months to go.
Completely took me by surprise when I found out this was directed by Aussies and filmed here in Melbourne. It's just so... 'American'
Also Vicscreen is an agency belonging to the Victorian Government in Australia that provides support for locally produced and distributed films, for anyone who's curious.
Right?? They nailed it. Hey fellow Aussie, glad you included the Vicscreen info for a probably predominantly US audience
It's crazy that the director went to do Ai art when like... Just get a commission, dude. You have a budget, we can tell
So? Money saved on art can be used elsewhere. Why give some egotistical "artists" when you can do it yourself
@@tonypringles2285it's extremely ironic to put artist in quotation marks while talking about real people
@@boiledcabbages i dont count people on twitter as artists who draw hentai as their main income. which is all "artists" on twitter
Yay I'm really happy that you guys are covering this film on the kill count big fan of both the film and your videos. What I liked best about this film when I covered it on my channel was how it handled backstory and basically hinted at things throughout the running time that might have happened to the main character off-screen during his wife's passing. I'm a big fan of the deal-with-the-devil trope in horror films because it essentially gives you an insight into a characters overall personalty and what they are willing to do to fix a mistake, gain fame and fortune or just get something that they have always wanted for a small price. I know I'm kind of gushing over the story in the comment section of a RUclips show about count the kills but storytelling is my bread and butter on my channel. But all I have to say is thanks again James and the team over at Dead Meat for the video, all the best and keep up the good work 👍😊
kill count actually covers and appreciates the making of movies! instead of just narrated monotone explanations, we get energetic passionate explanations that show how much this channel cares about the movies. especially the making
the marketing on this movie was SO good that it had me Googling to see if it was based on true events
Yes the director worked really hard on this ima tell him you said this such good movie
@@Leo_MTB767IT ABSOLUTELY WAS 😈
After the events of the movie, Jack Delroy was sent to prison for the fiasco that occurred on his show.
Later on, he breaks out of prison, and hides with his mother who works at Star Labs in Central City. She infects him with an inter-dimensional virus as part of a long series of experiments, and he gets deadly polka-dot powers.
Afterwards, Jack changes his name to Abner Krill, and moves to Gotham City. He loses his mind, becomes the Polka-Dot man, and he gets sent back to prison thanks to the Batman.
This eventually leads to the events of “The Suicide Squad” (2021), where Abner dies on his first mission with the Suicide Squad.
Lol
I had no idea Abner was a late night talk show host. It's fun to learn new things 😂
And while he was in Gotham he tried to help the Joker assassinate the mayor
You're forgetting Abra Kadabra...
"Go to a goddam commercial!"
[Ad plays]
Brilliant
For anyone who didn't catch it, at the end of the interview with Madeleine, you can her mouth "I love you" to Jack, to which he whispers very quietly, "I love you too, Minnie."
Fuckin love how James kept up the late night shtick throughout the whole video 😭
You guys have made fantastic content for years and I have been watching the whole time. Thank you James, Zoran, Chelsea, and the whole team behind dead meat, we love you guys.
I thought this was such a fun and clever film in how it uses its tropes. Love how even the show title involves owls. I was hyped to see it and it didn’t disappoint. Fantastic performances.
Who else wants David to be on dead meat horror awards 2025
I met David Dastmalchian at a Convention a few years back. Was a sunday afternoon and he was one of 2 celebrities that were still at their booth with no fans or visitors anymore. I only knew him from Ant-Man but put down my last 20 Euro for an autograph and had a little chat. Very nice guy, super friendly and we talked a bit about my Always Keep Fighting shirt :D
Have that autograph hanging on the wall right under the one from Ricky Whittle as Shadow Moon (also nice guy - brought a boom box to the session. Was a lot of fun XD).
Old being the first Shyamalan movie with a kill count is crazy.
Bet!
He is famous for horror, but his movies have impressingly low kill counts. Both Signs and 6th sense (ironicaly) would have what, only one?
@@PlatyNews oh yeah I guess I never thought of that but I mean, I could see him doing The Sixth Sense where like revealing that a character is a ghost is their death, given that each ghost has like a visual representation of how they died, but that’s a good point. I guess, I’d never really realized that. I’m just surprised we didn’t get a kill count of The Happening yet.
It feels so good when you catch a kill count that isn't from 4 years ago
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i eagerly wait every Friday lol
Lol okay?
Lol
And to think, I first saw Dastmalchian as "Jokers Thug #1" in The Dark Knight. Man has come a LONG way- and deserves every praise hes ever received!
I'm not gonna lie, as a fellow Gorehound, this is the FIRST horror film that genuinely made me both legitimately scared, AND uncomfortable, it made me feel like I was watching something I wasn't supposed to be watching. Now THATS how you make a good horror movie.
Watched this movie yesterday and loved it. About time someone do something different with a demonic possession movie.
Also, the DVD include an extra video, that adds 1 kill to the count.
Oh cool
I absolutely loved the actual review, but I just have to commend the OUTRO referencing The Beach That Makes You Old, which gets me EVERY FREAKING TIME for some reason.
Since no one seems to have said it, the editing in the To the Numbers bit was Awesome. You've upped your game to the point you could be making in house horror films that would be better than most low to mid budget stuff being produced.
Keep growing and Dead Meat Studios will absolutely be a thing. X
If they ever do it I'm signing on as a VFX and SFX artist
28:08 let’s say hypothetically the beach makes you old.
…the rocks. Let’s say hypothetically the rocks make you old. How much of you gets old? Does your metabolism speed up? Do you pee more frequently? I’m not going to entertain the idea that a beach can make you old
Dead Meat Kill Count: 815,510
So glad to be up to date as of now. This was a crazy task.