Learn more about StoryBlocks at storyblocks.com/Max READ ME: Sorry for less b-roll than normal, I wasn’t able to shoot more because I unfortunately have Covid and had to use what I had at home since I don’t want to get the rest of the team sick too. The last few days have really sucked but the kids are getting better and it’s mostly my wife and I that are suffering the most. I hope your all staying safe and healthy!
I'm getting the Canon R5 for stills (Photography) since this is my primary focus (70 %) and getting the Canon C70 for video ONLY. The beauty of this setup is they BOTH use RF Lenses! That is a huge selling point along with so many other positive reasons. The C70 DOES NOT overheat (built-in cooling fan) and can record in multiple different ways to the dual cards. It's a Super35 with Dual Gain Output sensor and with the Canon Speedbooster, you get Full Frame. I might be wrong here but Apple may release codec acceleration of these more difficult codecs in their newly announced in-house, non-Intel CPU's tomorrow. Get well soon.
Seems like it'll be an awesome setup. I went with the A7siii + A7iii and it seems to work out pretty good for my needs (like you said it's nice having cameras with the same lens mount) big plus for me on my setup is that they take the same batteries too lol 😂👌
Sad to read that you and your family are hit by COVID. I wish you all a quick recovery. I am enjoying your all your videos. Take it easy Max, we can live with a few less videos from you for a few weeks.
I ended up getting both. Ditched my Nikon D850 and lenses. I used the R5 primarily for photography and the a7siii for video. I also think the RF lenses are better than the GM lenses albeit less variety but I am sure it will catch up to Sony.
If the purpose is mainly video the A7siii seems like a clear choice. if you care about photography the R5 is significantly better - the A7siii isn’t even shooting images big enough for me to use as a desktop wallpaper - if you are a photographer the R5 4K HQ is great and enough to be the winner for hybrid photo + video
Hi Max and your wife as well. Screw the ad spot agreements, if they don't understand they do not deserve you supporting them in the first place. Can't add any more to the good wishes already expressed. You are a RUclips treasure. Kudos for going public, BobUK.
I don’t get why people keep comparing them. One is a dedicated video camera, while the other is photo based with video features. That’s like comparing a sports sedan vs a sports car
@@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia In what regard? Speed? Sure. Space? No. You can’t just say one would win if you don’t specify what is measured. Different people have different needs and the worst camera for one person might be the best for another.
using 2 brand camera you have to have 2 different workflow. pp dont shoot with 2 camera 2 brand at once matching color is pan in the ass. and end up with 1 collecting dust. sell one and take money for useful lens.
The Sony camera is borrowed from Sony - it has a sticker with a number to it to prove it. Man says he will keep Sony and sell Canon, but he won't keep the borrowed Sony. You can see that Sony has paid him. There are many videos where RUclips says that they sell Canon and buy Sony, unfortunately all lie. It is not worth watching such a RUclipsr because you never know if he is telling the truth or what he was paid for.
Thank you for the review. I think you are the only guy that addressed the codec problem. If you get the latest AMD an nVidia cards please put them to a test. I think it would be the best comparison of the year.
Yes, the codec is probably the biggest issue with the R5, much bigger than the overheat. Canon is coming out with new codecs in firmware updates (maybe this month) along with Clog 2 and Clog 3, but to me having 4.2.0 would be a game changer.
I will not buy a Canon again for ethical reasons, they NERF their cameras and intentionally inconvenience their users for transparent marketing reasons. But still, great video and interesting.
I chose the R5 as a complement to my C200 and some Ursas, so for me the R5 helps grab run and gun b-roll either hand-held or gimbal. The cinema cameras do longer-form interview content. So for me, the record limit is immaterial, and I have yet to get it to overheat on set. I love everything about this camera so far, and I don't even have the RF lenses yet. Despite that, I'm getting incredible handheld stuff in 10 bit that is totally useable next to my C200 in c-raw. I have a 2015 iMac, and I've been pleasantly surprised how fast the 10 bit H265 files transcode in Final Cut Pro (faster than the C200 raw files). I can go have a coffee, or grab a bite, and the files are transcoded. So for me, this thing is a dream, and the photo-capabilities are truly next level. Thanks for all you do!!
Thanks for your thoughts Max. I am trying to decide between the two myself. I am eagerly awaiting the (hopefully) upcoming firmware form Canon. If the C-log3 brings more Dynamic Range and they address heat issues then I might lean back towards the R series. An R6 + R5 combo would be quite a kit for stills and video. But I agree, this situation requires renting both and trying them out. Good luck with your new channel.
Also, I’ve been super impressed with the max tech channel. Hard to imagine a video a day, but you really have done it well. It snowed in Spokane and two hours later I see you with a video talking about snow in Spokane. That’s some efficient workflow for sure.
Thank you so much for this video - I have the A7iii and loved your honesty when it came to 4k image quality vs a7siii. Thank you again and appreciate all your hard work!
Interesting you like the image of the A7III better than that of the A7S III. Makes sense I guess given the former downsamples from a 6K image. Surprised the 10-bit color and 4.2.2. did not help sway things. Damn, that gives me pause in purchasing an A7S III now. I upgraded my A7S gen I to an A7III two years back. Will be very interesting to see what Sony does with the A7 IV.
yep. this. i love what I get from the A7III, not really sure it will make a big difference. I want the 4K60 and 120 for slow mo, and the unlimited record time. When it's all web delivery, no one can tell.
Nice honest review man. Respect. I also appreciate you mentioning the strengths of the a7iii. 6k downsampled. No one hardly mentions this. The R5 with ibis is awesome. Plus as a photo camera no contest. R5 is like the a7iii but better. Great all rounder
I appreciate your honest and unbiased review. You touched on a lot of aspects that are very helpful for a lot of people considering which one will be best for their workflows. Thank you!
The R5 has probably the best video of any mirrorless you can buy (the A7SIII is the only real competitor though it falls short with ultimate sharpness). The video is more than just useable.
Even though I’m a canon user, I still like Sony. The only problem is that, (other than my budget) I don’t like the look of the Sony cameras. They look too blocky and tourist-like. The R5 looks sleek and professional. Anyway, have a fast recovery!
@@BarkingMadMediaCan I guess I’ve never actually owned a Sony camera and am just going off looks. I can definitely see how Canon cameras look like consumer cameras tho.
@@BarkingMadMediaCan I always felt the Sony Alphas were built a bit cheap, especially the dpad/wheel on the back, the R/R5 seem to be more on a level with the old DSLRs...
lol i never understood looks of a camera body being a factor. As long as the ergonomics have some way for me to hold and use the camera right, that's all that matters.....that and not being a heavy camera if I want to use it as my run-n-gun cam.
Why argue. Almost every serious youtubers use the a7s3. It's crazy to mix cameras unless you review cameras and lenses. Stick with one system and get a great workflow. In the end nobody really notices the minor differences and you will drive yourself crazy. It's better to let it go to someone who will use it instead of collecting dust on the shelf. Great review.
Great job dude... loved that you're totally transparent, honest and not compromised with any potential 'leaning-on' from the corps. I have both too and the Canon is hard to beat when it comes to IQ and ergos. Clearly with your workflow, it makes total sense to go with the A7S III and that EVF and second ISO is a dream... I just can't wait for Apple silicon to handle 4:2:2!!
Sorry to hear you’re sick. Great video despite that. As for the camera, I wish I were in the market for the r5 right now. Not a lot of shoots for me right now in Spokane. Declined all weddings this year and am just doing outdoor family and senior shoots.
I'm actually considering doing the reverse and getting rid of the A7s3. Having received it has a Christmas gift and strictly a Canon user for years, I've experienced nothing but headaches with the Sony! Everything from the right SD Cards, SD card reader, which codecs will play on my computer and the programs I had to install just to play my freaking video. Don't get me wrong I do love what I see with the Sony but I don't want to work this hard!
Super classy review and video. I know you never liked the 5DIV and EOS-R when they came out, so to hear such high praise about the R5 sure says a lot. I think for you it's a no brainer to keep the Sonys since that is what you've always shot. For those of us who are pro photographers and also want to do video, the R5 is a dream come true. (the only thing I disagree with is the 1080p which seems to be one of the best 1080p on the market in the R5, much better than the R or other previous gen cameras) I hope your R5 finds a great home and can't wait to watch more of your videos here and on Max Tech.
At around 17:53 there is a flash of colored bars on the lower half of the screen. I played it back to make sure its acutally in the video and it is. Why is that? Is that to help identify copyright infringement?
The deciding difference amongst all these small differences is the pixel zize of the sanner, there the R 5 simply rules & i think that this is the reson why exactly in portrait shots the faces and facial expresiions come out much better than the S 3. And if you record with the Atmos Ninja V and remove the memory cards than there is really no overheating problem anymore
It’s pretty indisputable at this stage, video: A7Siii (and I have no love of Sony), photography: R5 for sure but it still overheats. If you’re balancing both worlds then see which gets you more work and favour that. I mean anyone on here regularly watching camera reviews and downloading samples knows this is the case I think.
Just about to sell my GH5S and all my MFT lenses. The upgrade is between these two cameras. I’m leaning towards the R5 with each new firmware. The “overheating” debacle sucks but there are work arounds that I’m comfortable with: Overheating => 4K oversampled crop mode ftw No full HDMI => internal 8K RAW better imho Native ND adapter for EF ISO performance still stellar for 45MP 45 MP stills for landscapes 4KLQ good enough for RUclips Canon colors Track DPAF AF is just amazing (Sony too!) Canon has more interesting cinema line imho Editing performance won’t be an issue with new Apple ARM laptops (based off iPad Pro). Fully accelerated 10 bit 4:2:2 in h264 and H265.
Max, you're saying Canon went with 4:2:2 as if there are no benefits to it. 4:2:2 is better for keying green screen footage. I actually wish the Canon had 4:4:4 but that's for higher end cameras. Point is, if something is better, why would you want them to go with something lesser?
@@vowswithyou thats why I said (im not that rich). still I know plenty of DOP that shoot with the 8k Red, and even a few looking to pick up the new 12k blackmagic camera. the eos r5 is the smallest package you can get 8k raw in, that being said something like the 6k red komodo makes far more sense (or a7siii with atomos)
Hi Max! You mentioned in the video you'd link the latest clog lut in the description but it doesn't seem to be here. Hope you and your family feel better soon! Cheers.
@@Sam-uw7pw OMG for real? Good for you! You must be excited to get it. I am still waiting for B&H to get it stocked. I pre-ordered mine in August. I am guessing I will probably get mine around November. I hope you enjoy your A7S3; I know I am going to enjoy mine when I get it.
Hi Max, again! The IBIS is important to me, sadly these days I shake a bit so what you are saying is very interesting. The rolling shutter assessment also helps - I'm on the fence between the R6 and 5 and not because of the cost. More to do with understanding what I am really looking for. The perfect camera, of course, but since that will never exist ......BobUK.
I would go with the r5. I got mine a month ago and very happy. There is not that many downsides to it better build better resolution, better video and very similar noise to R6 at more resolution. It depends what you want to do the ibis is perfect in photo mode. In video if you buy the 15 35 it can wobble sometimes in the corners at 15mm.
do u get the monitor and finder is warmer than the actual video when u compare it on an NLE? or perhaps my monitor and finder on the a7siii needs recalibration by Sony?
I bought both and decided to keep the R5 and buy a second body. I shoot primarily weddings and events with it at ISO 10000 or lower and found the Canon to be cleaner with more natural colors in mixed or low light, which I often find myself in. The Sony had some things I preferred also, but on the ones that weighed heavier for my work, the Canon won. Both of these are great cameras though and you really can't go wrong with either. Buy the one that fits the style of shooting you'll be doing with it.
I am a hobbyist and don't do weddings often. I did one a couple of weekends ago with a Pentax K-1 and a Fuji X-T4 and, frankly, although the newer cameras have nice features, I challenge anyone to show me that Pentax IQ and DR are lagging behind. On the contrary. The newest toy isn't always the best. I don't believe that "if some is good, more is better" popular saying. 😁 A camera is only a tool. Many weddings photographs from a year ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, are pretty nice. The newest technology doesn't make better photogs. Or does it!
@@jean-philippeperetti8463 I don't get it, why are you hijacking someone's comment with totally unrelated comment? The guy said he bought both camera a7s3 & r5, he decided to keep r5 and but extra one. Yuki coming saying u used Pentax & Fuji, she time you bashing someone to compare IQ, save time you be didn't mention the reason why he bought new camera but you happen to discredit his decision by bashing those who but new gears. Get life please and stop assuming things. And always get a tool that will help you accomplish your job faster and with less effort. Working smart always trump working hard. And if your decision makers financial sense, go for it, if not don't discredit those who are buying new toys.
I came to conclusion that a super detailed image is not always good for "cinematic" picture. My opinion was confirmed after the Brandons Lee review of A7Siii when he told that he reduced a details in post of his A7Siii footage. And his footage was so pleasing and beautiful. So even not the most detailed 4k of A7Siii is enough for me o think.
Exactly ... was about to post the same. If it's more and more crisp it starts to feel like video or a game. I have seen footage with black mist filter (which actually reduces the sharpness and some detail) which looked much more pleasing and has still tons of detail. And nobody crops in when watching a film 😀
Thank you for your final thoughts. I love coming back to your channel(s). You mentioned rolling shutter but did not go into detail. Did one camera have worse rolling shutter than the other?
It's weird, about 50% of videos show the R5 having better rolling shutter than the A7Siii (Dan Watson and a few others), 50% show the other way. I guess that shows just how close they really are. Pretty good for a 45 MP sensor vs a 12 MP sensor. The A7Siii is probably the only full frame camera that can go toe to toe with the R5 for rolling shutter. That says a lot for how good that Canon sensor tech is.
great review, usually I find yours a little bit biased (as you said, you're a SONY shooter), but this is by far one of the most objective comparisons out there. kudos!
Man, i have both...sometimes in a run and gun situation you don't know your focus on the a7s3...but on the R5 it's really better cause the screen is 2 times better ... so i use mainly Canon, for wedding for exemple....and the ibis is AMAZING
The Sony camera is borrowed from Sony - it has a sticker with a number to it to prove it. Man says he will keep Sony and sell Canon, but he won't keep the borrowed Sony. You can see that Sony has paid him. There are many videos where RUclips says that they sell Canon and buy Sony, unfortunately all lie. It is not worth watching such RUclipsr because you never know if he is telling the truth or what he was paid for.
For your use case - the Sony is a no brainer. It will be interesting what happens with the R5 with upcoming CRAW light, CLOG 2,3 and recording codec changes. They need to remove the darn 30 minute limit though.
@@ivillious7573 Lucky, I used mine my R5 for a month and would get overheating warnings after short clips and photos. I had to return it and got a A7Siii. I really loved using it, especially with all my EF glass. I also was shooting in August, so the summer heat might have played a factor.
Thanks for this awesome video! How do you transcode your canon video files so that you can work with it? Are u using proxys? I am also a Sony shooter (a6600) and i was thinking about switching to the R6 but the 4.2.2 codec makes me really sceptical.
It just doesn't make sense the 30m limit to protect the cinema line because takes usually don't last that much. Using an un-editable codec makes more sense to that matter.
Serious question: Why not keep the Canon if you love the lenses so much? Invest in the lenses and when the R5ii comes out then hopefully that will solve your other issues? Hope you get better fast man. I was sick for almost two months it sucked.
Hey, might be a bit late for the party. is the camera sold? I was thinking of picking one up from germany, however i'm living in Sweden if that is an issue. Wasn't really looking for the 24-70 since I have one for the EF mount but depending on what we're talking I might consider getting the RF one instead. I'll send you my email if the camera is still available. Ps. just found your channel, looked at a few videos and will def. subscribe! Keep it up!
I’ve shot a wedding with the R5 on set and never touched it for video. Stuck with the GH5s for reliable 4k60p. The feel of the r5 and it’s photos are pretty solid though. Lens selection is industry leading. Would love to use the 24-70mm IS for weddings. Went with the a7s iii for my future of pro video. The recording limit is a joke for canon as well. Cancelled my r5 preorder after overheating. It’s ridiculous how it gives warnings for photos. Didn’t expect the IBIS on canon to be so good
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READ ME: Sorry for less b-roll than normal, I wasn’t able to shoot more because I unfortunately have Covid and had to use what I had at home since I don’t want to get the rest of the team sick too. The last few days have really sucked but the kids are getting better and it’s mostly my wife and I that are suffering the most. I hope your all staying safe and healthy!
Get well soon, man! Sorry to hear that.
Hope you and your wife are feeling better. Stay isolated, stay safe. Pay attention to any warning signs.
Praying for you! Take care man!
Hope you doing alright. Get some Vaseline between your toes. Won't help with covid, it just feels good.
Prayers for your and your family. Get well soon.
Max, wish you fast recovery. appreciate your effort.
Wishing your family a full and fast recovery! Your videos have meant a lot to me, and I'm grateful for your generosity and knowledge!
I'm getting the Canon R5 for stills (Photography) since this is my primary focus (70 %) and getting the Canon C70 for video ONLY. The beauty of this setup is they BOTH use RF Lenses! That is a huge selling point along with so many other positive reasons. The C70 DOES NOT overheat (built-in cooling fan) and can record in multiple different ways to the dual cards. It's a Super35 with Dual Gain Output sensor and with the Canon Speedbooster, you get Full Frame.
I might be wrong here but Apple may release codec acceleration of these more difficult codecs in their newly announced in-house, non-Intel CPU's tomorrow.
Get well soon.
Seems like it'll be an awesome setup. I went with the A7siii + A7iii and it seems to work out pretty good for my needs (like you said it's nice having cameras with the same lens mount) big plus for me on my setup is that they take the same batteries too lol 😂👌
Is C70 expensive than R5?
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Sad to read that you and your family are hit by COVID. I wish you all a quick recovery. I am enjoying your all your videos. Take it easy Max, we can live with a few less videos from you for a few weeks.
Seriously? OMG, best of luck to you Max and your family.
I ended up getting both. Ditched my Nikon D850 and lenses. I used the R5 primarily for photography and the a7siii for video. I also think the RF lenses are better than the GM lenses albeit less variety but I am sure it will catch up to Sony.
You've had it for 2 months and others like myself are still waiting for their preorder to arrive.....
If the purpose is mainly video the A7siii seems like a clear choice. if you care about photography the R5 is significantly better - the A7siii isn’t even shooting images big enough for me to use as a desktop wallpaper - if you are a photographer the R5 4K HQ is great and enough to be the winner for hybrid photo + video
Hi Max and your wife as well. Screw the ad spot agreements, if they don't understand they do not deserve you supporting them in the first place. Can't add any more to the good wishes already expressed. You are a RUclips treasure. Kudos for going public, BobUK.
I don’t get why people keep comparing them. One is a dedicated video camera, while the other is photo based with video features. That’s like comparing a sports sedan vs a sports car
Sports Car would win
@@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia In what regard? Speed? Sure. Space? No. You can’t just say one would win if you don’t specify what is measured. Different people have different needs and the worst camera for one person might be the best for another.
They clearly do it because of the views..
Plus you don't put 8k in a "photo based with video features" camera, c'mon..
@@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia Sports car would shake, rattle and break your back!
I don’t understand why people on RUclips don’t just keep both. :) they surely have the money. Lol
using 2 brand camera you have to have 2 different workflow. pp dont shoot with 2 camera 2 brand at once matching color is pan in the ass. and end up with 1 collecting dust. sell one and take money for useful lens.
@@thelolkhoangkhaclienminh2658 great answer
I really don’t like to make these comments, but it seems to me that Sony is sponsering/ endorsing way more you tubers than Canon ?
@@thelolkhoangkhaclienminh2658 pan in the ass... that's brutal, dude
The Sony camera is borrowed from Sony - it has a sticker with a number to it to prove it. Man says he will keep Sony and sell Canon, but he won't keep the borrowed Sony. You can see that Sony has paid him. There are many videos where RUclips says that they sell Canon and buy Sony, unfortunately all lie. It is not worth watching such a RUclipsr because you never know if he is telling the truth or what he was paid for.
Thank you for the review. I think you are the only guy that addressed the codec problem. If you get the latest AMD an nVidia cards please put them to a test. I think it would be the best comparison of the year.
Yes, the codec is probably the biggest issue with the R5, much bigger than the overheat. Canon is coming out with new codecs in firmware updates (maybe this month) along with Clog 2 and Clog 3, but to me having 4.2.0 would be a game changer.
I will not buy a Canon again for ethical reasons, they NERF their cameras and intentionally inconvenience their users for transparent marketing reasons. But still, great video and interesting.
I chose the R5 as a complement to my C200 and some Ursas, so for me the R5 helps grab run and gun b-roll either hand-held or gimbal. The cinema cameras do longer-form interview content. So for me, the record limit is immaterial, and I have yet to get it to overheat on set. I love everything about this camera so far, and I don't even have the RF lenses yet. Despite that, I'm getting incredible handheld stuff in 10 bit that is totally useable next to my C200 in c-raw. I have a 2015 iMac, and I've been pleasantly surprised how fast the 10 bit H265 files transcode in Final Cut Pro (faster than the C200 raw files). I can go have a coffee, or grab a bite, and the files are transcoded. So for me, this thing is a dream, and the photo-capabilities are truly next level. Thanks for all you do!!
What are the green lines in 17:54 please? Some sensor fail while recording? Video is fine, but I realised this. Can you explain? Thx!
Thanks for your thoughts Max. I am trying to decide between the two myself. I am eagerly awaiting the (hopefully) upcoming firmware form Canon. If the C-log3 brings more Dynamic Range and they address heat issues then I might lean back towards the R series. An R6 + R5 combo would be quite a kit for stills and video. But I agree, this situation requires renting both and trying them out. Good luck with your new channel.
Also, I’ve been super impressed with the max tech channel. Hard to imagine a video a day, but you really have done it well. It snowed in Spokane and two hours later I see you with a video talking about snow in Spokane. That’s some efficient workflow for sure.
Thank you so much for this video - I have the A7iii and loved your honesty when it came to 4k image quality vs a7siii. Thank you again and appreciate all your hard work!
Interesting you like the image of the A7III better than that of the A7S III. Makes sense I guess given the former downsamples from a 6K image. Surprised the 10-bit color and 4.2.2. did not help sway things. Damn, that gives me pause in purchasing an A7S III now. I upgraded my A7S gen I to an A7III two years back. Will be very interesting to see what Sony does with the A7 IV.
yep. this. i love what I get from the A7III, not really sure it will make a big difference. I want the 4K60 and 120 for slow mo, and the unlimited record time. When it's all web delivery, no one can tell.
Nice honest review man. Respect. I also appreciate you mentioning the strengths of the a7iii. 6k downsampled. No one hardly mentions this. The R5 with ibis is awesome. Plus as a photo camera no contest. R5 is like the a7iii but better. Great all rounder
The best tech reviewer ! You give your viewers what they want, kudos to you
Your videos are very very informative and you put a lot of work into them. Keep it up
Max is that a dropped frame at 17:55 of your video? Is that an issue with the camera/card or rendering? Please let me know?
I appreciate your honest and unbiased review. You touched on a lot of aspects that are very helpful for a lot of people considering which one will be best for their workflows. Thank you!
Wishing you and your family a fast recovery Max. You lost a bit of weight. Stay safe!
R5 was mis marketed its really a fantastic stills camera which happens to have some useable video. A7Slll is for sure a more dedicated video shooter
The R5 has probably the best video of any mirrorless you can buy (the A7SIII is the only real competitor though it falls short with ultimate sharpness). The video is more than just useable.
Get well soon, Max! Your reviews have been among my very favorites fro several years!
What happened at 17:54 ?
Great video. You guys will all get well. Wishing you all a speedy recovery.
Even though I’m a canon user, I still like Sony. The only problem is that, (other than my budget) I don’t like the look of the Sony cameras. They look too blocky and tourist-like. The R5 looks sleek and professional.
Anyway, have a fast recovery!
I find the opposite. They feel like consumer cameras. Sony cams are heavy and well built.
@@BarkingMadMediaCan I guess I’ve never actually owned a Sony camera and am just going off looks. I can definitely see how Canon cameras look like consumer cameras tho.
@@BarkingMadMediaCan I always felt the Sony Alphas were built a bit cheap, especially the dpad/wheel on the back, the R/R5 seem to be more on a level with the old DSLRs...
To me I see sony as super more japanese sleek sharp edges and sexy and have a vintage modern work horse design
Canon too blobby
lol i never understood looks of a camera body being a factor. As long as the ergonomics have some way for me to hold and use the camera right, that's all that matters.....that and not being a heavy camera if I want to use it as my run-n-gun cam.
Wish you quick recovery 🙏
Why argue. Almost every serious youtubers use the a7s3. It's crazy to mix cameras unless you review cameras and lenses. Stick with one system and get a great workflow. In the end nobody really notices the minor differences and you will drive yourself crazy. It's better to let it go to someone who will use it instead of collecting dust on the shelf. Great review.
Great job dude... loved that you're totally transparent, honest and not compromised with any potential 'leaning-on' from the corps. I have both too and the Canon is hard to beat when it comes to IQ and ergos. Clearly with your workflow, it makes total sense to go with the A7S III and that EVF and second ISO is a dream... I just can't wait for Apple silicon to handle 4:2:2!!
Sorry to hear you’re sick. Great video despite that. As for the camera, I wish I were in the market for the r5 right now. Not a lot of shoots for me right now in Spokane. Declined all weddings this year and am just doing outdoor family and senior shoots.
I'm actually considering doing the reverse and getting rid of the A7s3. Having received it has a Christmas gift and strictly a Canon user for years, I've experienced nothing but headaches with the Sony! Everything from the right SD Cards, SD card reader, which codecs will play on my computer and the programs I had to install just to play my freaking video. Don't get me wrong I do love what I see with the Sony but I don't want to work this hard!
Super classy review and video. I know you never liked the 5DIV and EOS-R when they came out, so to hear such high praise about the R5 sure says a lot. I think for you it's a no brainer to keep the Sonys since that is what you've always shot. For those of us who are pro photographers and also want to do video, the R5 is a dream come true.
(the only thing I disagree with is the 1080p which seems to be one of the best 1080p on the market in the R5, much better than the R or other previous gen cameras)
I hope your R5 finds a great home and can't wait to watch more of your videos here and on Max Tech.
At around 17:53 there is a flash of colored bars on the lower half of the screen. I played it back to make sure its acutally in the video and it is. Why is that? Is that to help identify copyright infringement?
I don't see any...
@@JackFN_VR64 Well its very clear on mine. Maybe location related?
Funny Max himself is keeping mum.
@@dyong888 Might be browser related. Firefox and chrome don't have it. Brave and Edge have it.
@@weixingyang898 I'm using the latest Chrome. The latest FF is fine.
Nice review. So perfectly breakdown every aspect.
Thank you ❤️
The deciding difference amongst all these small differences is the pixel zize of the sanner, there the R 5 simply rules & i think that this is the reson why exactly in portrait shots the faces and facial expresiions come out much better than the S 3. And if you record with the Atmos Ninja V and remove the memory cards than there is really no overheating problem anymore
Great content as always, best wishes on continued good health to you and your family. What are you asking for your R5?
It’s pretty indisputable at this stage, video: A7Siii (and I have no love of Sony), photography: R5 for sure but it still overheats. If you’re balancing both worlds then see which gets you more work and favour that.
I mean anyone on here regularly watching camera reviews and downloading samples knows this is the case I think.
17:53 - 17:54 check the video its flickering or something like that
side question lol. how much mm is ur Apple Watch? looks dope
44mm. Thanks!
@@MaksimYuryev welcome! Fits you well. ordered mine yesterday. thanks alot !
so it means a7iii 4k better than a7siii 4k in term of detail ? 11:49
Hi Max, now with M1 Max, would you change your mind on A7S3 vs R5? Thx!
4k HQ is 8k readout of course it will overheat! People need to understand that .
Doesnt matter when their normal 4k is worse than just about every other cameras 4k.
Hi Max, Panasonic GH5 also shoots in 10bit 4:2:2, will it have difficulty in post production like the R5?
hey Max, where can i get those wall arts? they look dope!
Get better soon Max
A nice thoughtful comparison. Hope you're feeling better soon.
Sending you love ❤️ and speedy recovery for you and your family
Just about to sell my GH5S and all my MFT lenses. The upgrade is between these two cameras. I’m leaning towards the R5 with each new firmware. The “overheating” debacle sucks but there are work arounds that I’m comfortable with:
Overheating => 4K oversampled crop mode ftw
No full HDMI => internal 8K RAW better imho
Native ND adapter for EF
ISO performance still stellar for 45MP
45 MP stills for landscapes
4KLQ good enough for RUclips
Canon colors
Track DPAF AF is just amazing (Sony too!)
Canon has more interesting cinema line imho
Editing performance won’t be an issue with new Apple ARM laptops (based off iPad Pro). Fully accelerated 10 bit 4:2:2 in h264 and H265.
Max, you're saying Canon went with 4:2:2 as if there are no benefits to it. 4:2:2 is better for keying green screen footage. I actually wish the Canon had 4:4:4 but that's for higher end cameras. Point is, if something is better, why would you want them to go with something lesser?
any update on this comparison?
Wait for the new update before you sell. These two companies are still trying to compete even post release.
the 4k standard quality won't get better tho...
if I could afford 3x canon eos r5 to switch them out when one overheats in 8k raw it could be fun. but I'm not that rich
What clients are paying you that much money to shoot 8K RAW?
@@vowswithyou thats why I said (im not that rich). still I know plenty of DOP that shoot with the 8k Red, and even a few looking to pick up the new 12k blackmagic camera. the eos r5 is the smallest package you can get 8k raw in, that being said something like the 6k red komodo makes far more sense (or a7siii with atomos)
Hi Max! You mentioned in the video you'd link the latest clog lut in the description but it doesn't seem to be here. Hope you and your family feel better soon! Cheers.
One future firmware update they say they'll have is one that uses a lighter codec
I am still waiting for my A7S3. Can't wait to have it!
When are you getting it? I'm receiving mine in a few days 😱
@@Sam-uw7pw OMG for real? Good for you! You must be excited to get it. I am still waiting for B&H to get it stocked. I pre-ordered mine in August. I am guessing I will probably get mine around November. I hope you enjoy your A7S3; I know I am going to enjoy mine when I get it.
Thanks for the great video Max. Speedy recovery to you.
Hey btw, where can I get those latest C-Log luts?
take care Max, get welll soon. love from India to you and your family.
Interested in the R5 if its still available!
Hi Max, again! The IBIS is important to me, sadly these days I shake a bit so what you are saying is very interesting. The rolling shutter assessment also helps - I'm on the fence between the R6 and 5 and not because of the cost. More to do with understanding what I am really looking for. The perfect camera, of course, but since that will never exist ......BobUK.
I would go with the r5. I got mine a month ago and very happy. There is not that many downsides to it better build better resolution, better video and very similar noise to R6 at more resolution. It depends what you want to do the ibis is perfect in photo mode. In video if you buy the 15 35 it can wobble sometimes in the corners at 15mm.
do u get the monitor and finder is warmer than the actual video when u compare it on an NLE? or perhaps my monitor and finder on the a7siii needs recalibration by Sony?
Do you still have the canon?
Canon's IBIS is wobbly tho
I bought both and decided to keep the R5 and buy a second body. I shoot primarily weddings and events with it at ISO 10000 or lower and found the Canon to be cleaner with more natural colors in mixed or low light, which I often find myself in. The Sony had some things I preferred also, but on the ones that weighed heavier for my work, the Canon won.
Both of these are great cameras though and you really can't go wrong with either. Buy the one that fits the style of shooting you'll be doing with it.
I am a hobbyist and don't do weddings often. I did one a couple of weekends ago with a Pentax K-1 and a Fuji X-T4 and, frankly, although the newer cameras have nice features, I challenge anyone to show me that Pentax IQ and DR are lagging behind. On the contrary. The newest toy isn't always the best. I don't believe that "if some is good, more is better" popular saying. 😁 A camera is only a tool. Many weddings photographs from a year ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, are pretty nice. The newest technology doesn't make better photogs. Or does it!
@@jean-philippeperetti8463 I don't get it, why are you hijacking someone's comment with totally unrelated comment?
The guy said he bought both camera a7s3 & r5, he decided to keep r5 and but extra one.
Yuki coming saying u used Pentax & Fuji, she time you bashing someone to compare IQ, save time you be didn't mention the reason why he bought new camera but you happen to discredit his decision by bashing those who but new gears.
Get life please and stop assuming things. And always get a tool that will help you accomplish your job faster and with less effort. Working smart always trump working hard. And if your decision makers financial sense, go for it, if not don't discredit those who are buying new toys.
@@JonathanSeni You're right. You don't get it. At all. No discredit intended dude! LOL
You can actually triple record with an atomos recorder.
Great comparison, i just cant find the updated lut in the description as you mentioned
I'd of bought the R6...if it didn't overheat. Wishing you the best during your recovery.
I came to conclusion that a super detailed image is not always good for "cinematic" picture. My opinion was confirmed after the Brandons Lee review of A7Siii when he told that he reduced a details in post of his A7Siii footage. And his footage was so pleasing and beautiful. So even not the most detailed 4k of A7Siii is enough for me o think.
Exactly ... was about to post the same. If it's more and more crisp it starts to feel like video or a game. I have seen footage with black mist filter (which actually reduces the sharpness and some detail) which looked much more pleasing and has still tons of detail. And nobody crops in when watching a film 😀
@@hcl8836 i bought two ProMist's :-) Like it a lot!
@@hcl8836 We use black pro mist all the time too. Great filters.
I hope you speedy recovery Maxim vizdoravlivai😊
Camera conspiracy sent me. :)
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Thank you for your final thoughts. I love coming back to your channel(s). You mentioned rolling shutter but did not go into detail. Did one camera have worse rolling shutter than the other?
Thank you! The R5 is worse but not by much and overall both do great.
It's weird, about 50% of videos show the R5 having better rolling shutter than the A7Siii (Dan Watson and a few others), 50% show the other way. I guess that shows just how close they really are. Pretty good for a 45 MP sensor vs a 12 MP sensor. The A7Siii is probably the only full frame camera that can go toe to toe with the R5 for rolling shutter. That says a lot for how good that Canon sensor tech is.
@@77dris Yes that sensor is very impressive in terms of readout speed! I'm going off of a few side by side tests and also some lab data from cined
great review, usually I find yours a little bit biased (as you said, you're a SONY shooter), but this is by far one of the most objective comparisons out there. kudos!
PS. just read the comment, sorry to hear, fast recovery to all of you!
Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
How much u want for ur camera
Get well soon Max!
R5 photography 1st, video 2nd
A73 video 1st, photo if you want it. People who need/do video mainly shouldn't get the R5.
Man, i have both...sometimes in a run and gun situation you don't know your focus on the a7s3...but on the R5 it's really better cause the screen is 2 times better ... so i use mainly Canon, for wedding for exemple....and the ibis is AMAZING
Thanks for the video...did you ever get to try Nikon Z6/Z7 for video and photo....if possible can you make a video on that?
The Sony camera is borrowed from Sony - it has a sticker with a number to it to prove it. Man says he will keep Sony and sell Canon, but he won't keep the borrowed Sony. You can see that Sony has paid him. There are many videos where RUclips says that they sell Canon and buy Sony, unfortunately all lie. It is not worth watching such RUclipsr because you never know if he is telling the truth or what he was paid for.
Have the codec issues and heating been resolved? Looking to upgrade from a73 to a new camera
For your use case - the Sony is a no brainer. It will be interesting what happens with the R5 with upcoming CRAW light, CLOG 2,3 and recording codec changes. They need to remove the darn 30 minute limit though.
Thanks for the good information max hope you and the wife get well
That overheating issue would keep me away from the R5, those I just do stills and not video
Got mine a month ago never ever had a warning even for photo and video for hours
@@ivillious7573 Lucky, I used mine my R5 for a month and would get overheating warnings after short clips and photos. I had to return it and got a A7Siii. I really loved using it, especially with all my EF glass. I also was shooting in August, so the summer heat might have played a factor.
@@ivillious7573 Sorry but...no one grab so long if you are a videast...it's a non sense argument
There's an other update coming next month to the R5. Let's see how much more time it get's and what RAW light looks like.
I'm looking forward to C-log 2 and 3! 😃
Hey Damon! Just curious to know where you heard this information from?
@@Mightythunder0987 Canonrumors confirmed it on their page. They have been pretty spot on with their stuff about the R5.
@@darwinmacon me too
Get well soon Max!!!
Thanks for this awesome video! How do you transcode your canon video files so that you can work with it? Are u using proxys?
I am also a Sony shooter (a6600) and i was thinking about switching to the R6 but the 4.2.2 codec makes me really sceptical.
Max do you know if AMD cards do support 4:2:2?
I don't yet know when to set the A7SIII to 4:2:2 but I want the piece of mind my workflow won't change
17:54 - What was that?
TLDW;
I am a videast, so I pick the more video centric one (a7s3) (funny is that I began writing that before hearing the end of the video)
Yeeks, get better soon Max. Sorry to hear that.
It just doesn't make sense the 30m limit to protect the cinema line because takes usually don't last that much.
Using an un-editable codec makes more sense to that matter.
“Video guy chooses video camera over photo camera for video”.
it’s not a photo camera - it’s heavily marketed for video as well
Serious question: Why not keep the Canon if you love the lenses so much? Invest in the lenses and when the R5ii comes out then hopefully that will solve your other issues? Hope you get better fast man. I was sick for almost two months it sucked.
Hey, might be a bit late for the party. is the camera sold? I was thinking of picking one up from germany, however i'm living in Sweden if that is an issue.
Wasn't really looking for the 24-70 since I have one for the EF mount but depending on what we're talking I might consider getting the RF one instead. I'll send you my email if the camera is still available.
Ps. just found your channel, looked at a few videos and will def. subscribe! Keep it up!
I’ve shot a wedding with the R5 on set and never touched it for video. Stuck with the GH5s for reliable 4k60p. The feel of the r5 and it’s photos are pretty solid though. Lens selection is industry leading.
Would love to use the 24-70mm IS for weddings. Went with the a7s iii for my future of pro video. The recording limit is a joke for canon as well. Cancelled my r5 preorder after overheating. It’s ridiculous how it gives warnings for photos. Didn’t expect the IBIS on canon to be so good
There is no overheat issue for photos. Any warnings it gives are for the extended video modes.
@@77dris when shooting photos, you get an overheating icon which can prevent you from using video
Get well soon, Max. Allah bless you.
Is there a link to buy? I will buy the combo
I want one of these so badly but the budget? Nope!
buy nikon z7-2