If you were to buy one between the two coming from the A6500 (as I do, so it's the first full frame) imagining you are 70% video a 30% photo shooter, which one would you choose? Would you save some money on the A7iv to get a full-frame lens with the remaining money or would you just go with the A7siii anyway?
@@SidneyDiongzon thanks for your reply. Alright but I would like to know what would you do based on your experience. And speaking about the devil, apart from the specs...with which camera you had a better overall experience/more fun/more enjoyment and excitement? Anyway, these two are probably the most divisive cameras made in the modern era... Sony really did it this time!😤
Okay, I lied. Does the A7IV have the zoom toggle switch like the FX3 does? Funny you should mention the FX3 because I literally was going to add it to my cart like 2 weeks ago and noticed all the Sony cameras being marked down and that’s when it’s clicked…new camera coming!
2:18 The APS-C Crop Factor is closer 1.5 on Sony Cameras (it is close to 1.6 on Canon). Sony A7iv, FF: 7008 x 4672. APS-C: 4608 x 3072. Crop Factor = 1.521
Focus map is blue when sth is out of focus behind your object and red shows area out of focus in front if your object. Thigs that are in focus are without any colors 😃
Great video, all valid points, you are misunderstanding the focus mapping though. Anything without coloured squares is pin sharp. Light blue is slightly further away from focus, blue is further away than that, orange is slightly in front of focus red is really in front of focus.
Some of these reasons don’t make sense because half of the things mentioned are already in the a7sIII 🤨. There are only 2 reasons I would switch and that’s the high MP and Crop Mode. I hope the a7sIV has at least 24MP. The only things missing from the a7sIII are anamorphic mode, open gate, crop mode, and 24MP for it to be my perfect camera
@@deletedwaffles it’s not bad honestly. It’s still high quality. Not good for printing larger than 20 inches but most likely you’re using the pics for web or social so it doesn’t matter
The reason I got the A7IV over the A7SIII/FX3 is that the A7IV fixed the green-yellow roll-off everyone complained about (i.e. dslr shooter). The colors are better tuned than A1 or A7SIII/FX3 (According to G.U.) and in my own experience the colors are great
So it seems you were unhappy with the 4k quality of the A7siii? Is the difference in sharpness that important to you? Honestly I find it sharp enough. Most of the features will come to the A7siii via a firmware update. If you cannot tell the difference between the HD 120 fps for the A7iv and 4k 120 A7siii does it not contradict your view on sharpness?
He’s really dumb, he’d take the shitty 1.5x crop from A7IV footage over uncropped A7sIII footage. He said he loves the crop and how it gives him the extra reach, but what happens when you shoot indoors in a tight space using a prime 24mm?? 🤣 he didn’t think of all the scenarios and being able to shoot ultra wide is important especially when you don’t know to expect when being booked to a particular event or wedding.
@@NVIK5 Yeah, he doesn't really have that much clue about what he's talking about, he kinda proved me that the main reason he's making youtube videos is to add fillers to his channel/content regardless of whether he documented what he's talking about prior to actual shooting or not. If Crop was a good thing then the Canon shooters wouldn't have bashed the 1.7!! crop in the 5D MkIV. If he's shooting sports exclusively then fine, enjoy the crop, but we also have to take everyone's real world usage in consideration that doesn't really welcome the crop in the majority of cases.
Just to add something. The Focus breathing compensation is still mostly working for GM lens and some of G lens. it is still not working for any third party lens just yet. Thanks for a good review.
For me there’s a number of thing that would stop me or least make think twice from buying the a7iv. Rolling shutter as you say is a big one for me. The view finder resolution, buffer size, the shutter speed when shooting photos.10fps compared to 6 on the a7iv. The crop factors would annoy the hell out of me. As it stands if you don’t need the resolution the a7s3 is by far the more complete camera. A7s3 gets more right in my eyes. But they add stuff and take stuff away.
Why people after so many years of talking about sensors apsc vs full frame, don’t get that the focal length of the lens does not change, is only the field of view that gets narrower. A 50mm stays a 50mm whether is full frame or apsc .
It’s a no brainer for Hybrid shooters… if you’re a video shooter, docs, podcasts professional environment…fx3 all the way. I’d rather have the higher quality photos. 😎 while not loosing much on the video end. Great video 😎
I’m wonder what camera has the better 1080p. I’m selective what I film in 4K just for file sizes. Good video, surprised me to see the backlash you got in the comments.
@@maruwaanmoses Right. I'm coming up on a year with it. Did some dope projects but still havent fully unleashed it. Very close to the perfect cam in my opinion.
I have totally pre-ordered the Sony a7iv. I have been waiting for this camera since the a7siii came out. a7siii is a lot of money and so is the a7iv but it is easier to stomach the a7iv price! I cannot wait to get this camera!!!
@@BrianTheCameraGuy me too. My Canon 70D and Nikon D750 are going on vacation 😂…soon. Great cameras served me well! The rolling shutter and crop 4k 60….does not affect my wedding hybrid work, neither shooting the compressed raw….
@@viktor928 I would agree with you about both. Everyone makes a big deal about the cropped 4k but it will be some of the best cropped 4k that Sony has to offer. The 10 bit 4.2.2 is 100% got me. I am so done with 8 bit.
I actually don't really mind the 4k 60p crop! In fact it's kind of a good thing to me, because the times I need to shoot 60p I usually use the sigma 18-35, which is a crop lens anyway! I'm very much happy that crop mode is also downsampled!
Agreed. I know sony did this to keep the A7Siii appealing but there are so many ways around that crop. It's very hard for me to see that as a major fall back... Maybe the pixel police 😆.. Heck, even the 1080 on the A7IV looks crisp and modern. Whether it's good is subjective but this is far from a deal breaker for me also. ✊
Great video man. Really like the idea of going the hybrid route when I jump to full frame, so this was really reassuring seeing that the features are this close. That rolling shutter does make a bit nervous though lol
Not sure I'd agree that A7iii owners would be happy to "upgrade" to another camera with bad rolling shutter performance because that's what they already have. In fact, it's a deal breaker for me.
Would you prefere 4k60 with Super 35 but in 10bit 4:2:2 OR would you take 4k60 without a crop but in 8bit 4:2:0? I think I prefere the 10bit and take the crop and if I dont want it I just shoot in 1080p60 10bit 4:2:2 full frame.
But the battery life for the A7IV in 4K sucks (only about 20 mins), then shut down because internal temperature is too high. This happened in the winter! I returned mine and will look at getting the A7SIII.
Why would they be reasons the sell the A7SIII for the A7IV if most of the reasons are ‘equal to’ the A7SIII. Maybe crop mode.I’ll give you that! 🤣…but not in 4K 60P. I’m defo selling my my A7SII for the A7IV, for all the reasons in the video. But not an A7SIII! Lets hope Sony brings Focus breathing and mapping to the A7SIII in a firmware update.
This may be partially click bait but at the same time... The A7siii pictures look worse than my canon m50... So.. I would say if a photographer accidentally bought that camera for hybrid work to get the latest and greatest with hopes it'll look professional.. That would be a real good reason to sell the A7Siii for the A7IV. Not to mention its way cheaper. 😊
Edit…after watching the entire video, I saw you touched upon the crop factor in 4k60. My initial comment was related to the crop mode section:)). Always better to be able to choose if you apply crop or not for video.
I would only sell my a7siii so I can buy 2 a7ivs instead of my current combo an a7siii and a7iii which is difficult especially in post. Unfortunately I didn't have enough cash to get 2 x a7siii so 2 x a7ivs seems like the next best combo.
I think never should be compared 2 different camera, aS7 III is especially for video a7IV is a hybrid camera for both video and photo. And it has 1,5 developement advantage over a7S III. I think a7IV is not better in iso and dynamic. It has advantages in autofocus and cropped/stabilized mode, but it didn't get 4k120p and has an awful rolling shutter (or I should use 35mm crop mode for a little bit better rolling shutter effect - insane in an FF camera). So also a beginner filmmaker will buy still A7SIII overt the a7IV. "Dogs must be fed"... They have given something for people, but I think this is not that why someone could say "Selling my Sony A7SIII for the Sony A7IV"... But I understand, this product must be also promoted and sold...
Focus breathing compensation check here: Pretty sure it doesn't fix it "regardless of what lens you use" and is only for approved lenses on a list Sony has. For example it doesn't fix breathing on the 50mm 2.5 G lens and the other G lenses of that size do not benefit from focus breathing compensation yet.
I thought the both cameras had the same bodies, which means the each grip is the same size, so why did you say the A7iv was bigger? Or maybe I misunderstood? Great video btw!
If you like photo more than go for the a7iv. You can spend the extra 1000 on lens or m1 pro macbook. however s is the best for video. I may get a7iv if screen is decent since I don't use 4k 120 often. Also I think only the a7iv has beauty filter right? More Friendly for girls or save some times for editing lol
No way I’d sell my siii without knowing when you’d actually be able to get the a7iv. People are still waiting on siii right now, so this one will be pretty difficult to get. I’m considering just buying a a7iii in the meantime until they are in stock.
Hi, thanks to share your interesting video. I'd like to ask a question please: I make only documentaries in 4K around the world, I don't take Pics. I take interest about a good image quality of the video. I only shoot handheld footage and never use the tripod, does it have a good stabilizer? Do you suggest this Sony A7 IV camera for 4K videos? Thanks you.
Excellent comparison! thanks a ton! I would get the sony a7IV as a second camera on video and to use it for wedding events in photography! Cheers, Isma
That's awesome Sid! yeah, plus it's $1k cheaper 😁but the crop mode at 4k60... 😌 they had to get us with something 😄 What picture profile are you now using with the a7IV?
Hello, loved your videos …I am new in photography and I want to make short cinematic videos , vlogs and also want to take some great pictures for property on airbnb …I want the camera which is good in both still pictures and videography …which one do you suggest if budget is between 3000-5000usd …can you recommend 2-3 options …I have shortlisted Sony A7 III / Sony A7 IV/ Sony A7R III / SONY A7S III
I wish there will be a firmware to upgrade the A7SIII AF system in the near future. the A7SIII's AF is good when it can see human eyes, otherwise it sux.
Hey 👋 can we shoot 100fps at 1080p and at 10bit , not talking about s&q mode but rather if we can map custom button as the a7 III to 1 or 2 and that is shot at 10bit , please clarify as unable to find answer anywhere
FYI, the A7SIII doesn't actually have a 12MP sensor. It has essentially the same sensor as the A1, just an older revision of it. To get the 12MP, they do 4x adjacent pixel compositing. In reality, the A7IV has slightly larger physical photosites than the A7SIII. This is why it performs so comparably in terms of ISO performance, and why the A1 could (seemingly inexplicably) do essentially everything the A7SIII can do (and more) despite the relatively short amount of time between their respective releases.
Thanks a lot for the video… but it’s kinda weird that the title is 10 reasons why you would sell the A7S III for A7 IV, which I suppose you would list things that A7 IV do better than the A7S III, and the first thing you mentioned is 10bit 422 recording… I mean A7S III can do it too, right? It’s true that crop mode is something that higher MP cameras have but the A7S III doesn’t, but 10 bit, color science, high ISO performance… None of them are the “advantages” over the A7S III, or definitely not the reason why you would sell the A7S III for, right, You did mentioned it at the end of the video, but if it’s not good pls don’t just say it at the end, pls mention that in the video where you are talking about it. Sorry to be blunt…found this video really misleading…
Im thinking of selling mine for 2. And then selling my FX6 for the FX3. It’ll be nice to have S35 mode back and getting some cinema lenses shooting 4K.
You know you can just crop in while editing. I am seriously confused by everyone being impressed by a crop mode and convincing themselves it's a pro instead of a con.
@@dylanolmstead6647 When I crop in during post I'm losing resolution. If I use S35 mode at the time of recording I'm not losing anything because it has enough pixels. I get kind of get two focal lengths out of one lens when I don't want to change lenses (especially if I'm moving quick or in a dusty environment). Also opens up options for APS-C lenses and be able to shoot in 4k where I can't do that with my A7SIII or FX6.
I thought about selling my a7siii and getting the a7iv, but I need a B cam and if I did that I would end up in the same boat. So I think I’m gonna get a a7iii or bite the bullet and get the a7iv to go along with my a7siii…. We have got to come up with a better way to describe these cams lol
@@WargodFilms This was the case with the A7III, but the A7IV records up to 600 mbps ALL-I 4k60 now. Codecs are vastly improved from 100 mbps XAVC-S LONG GOP!
WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE SONY A7IV???
If you were to buy one between the two coming from the A6500 (as I do, so it's the first full frame) imagining you are 70% video a 30% photo shooter, which one would you choose? Would you save some money on the A7iv to get a full-frame lens with the remaining money or would you just go with the A7siii anyway?
That’s a good point with getting the A7IV and using the money you would have spent on the A7SIII with a good lens!
Totally unrelated but I have one question for anyone. Is there a quality difference that your eyes can see between the Type A cards versus V90 cards?
@@SidneyDiongzon thanks for your reply. Alright but I would like to know what would you do based on your experience. And speaking about the devil, apart from the specs...with which camera you had a better overall experience/more fun/more enjoyment and excitement? Anyway, these two are probably the most divisive cameras made in the modern era... Sony really did it this time!😤
Okay, I lied. Does the A7IV have the zoom toggle switch like the FX3 does? Funny you should mention the FX3 because I literally was going to add it to my cart like 2 weeks ago and noticed all the Sony cameras being marked down and that’s when it’s clicked…new camera coming!
2:18 The APS-C Crop Factor is closer 1.5 on Sony Cameras (it is close to 1.6 on Canon). Sony A7iv, FF: 7008 x 4672. APS-C: 4608 x 3072. Crop Factor = 1.521
Focus map is blue when sth is out of focus behind your object and red shows area out of focus in front if your object. Thigs that are in focus are without any colors 😃
I came to the comment section to talk about the same and found your comment
Great video, all valid points, you are misunderstanding the focus mapping though. Anything without coloured squares is pin sharp. Light blue is slightly further away from focus, blue is further away than that, orange is slightly in front of focus red is really in front of focus.
Some of these reasons don’t make sense because half of the things mentioned are already in the a7sIII 🤨. There are only 2 reasons I would switch and that’s the high MP and Crop Mode. I hope the a7sIV has at least 24MP. The only things missing from the a7sIII are anamorphic mode, open gate, crop mode, and 24MP for it to be my perfect camera
Exactly what I was thinking…
That 12MP is the only thing keep me from wanting the A7S III.
@@deletedwaffles it’s not bad honestly. It’s still high quality. Not good for printing larger than 20 inches but most likely you’re using the pics for web or social so it doesn’t matter
@@deletedwaffles yeah, that was a BIG miss. 24MP would have made it the most versatile camera in their lineup apart from the a1.
You really don’t need more than 12mp for 4K video .for photo, the more the better
you can also map on previous Sony cameras ISO to be on dial ring (no need to press ISO button and select ISO) just turn you dial ring
The reason I got the A7IV over the A7SIII/FX3 is that the A7IV fixed the green-yellow roll-off everyone complained about (i.e. dslr shooter). The colors are better tuned than A1 or A7SIII/FX3 (According to G.U.) and in my own experience the colors are great
So it seems you were unhappy with the 4k quality of the A7siii? Is the difference in sharpness that important to you? Honestly I find it sharp enough. Most of the features will come to the A7siii via a firmware update. If you cannot tell the difference between the HD 120 fps for the A7iv and 4k 120 A7siii does it not contradict your view on sharpness?
He’s really dumb, he’d take the shitty 1.5x crop from A7IV footage over uncropped A7sIII footage. He said he loves the crop and how it gives him the extra reach, but what happens when you shoot indoors in a tight space using a prime 24mm?? 🤣 he didn’t think of all the scenarios and being able to shoot ultra wide is important especially when you don’t know to expect when being booked to a particular event or wedding.
@@costinvaly1 agreed, the 7siii destroys the IV as a video camera.
Oh nooooo, I didn’t think about that!!!! What am I gonna do now?????
@@NVIK5 Yeah, he doesn't really have that much clue about what he's talking about, he kinda proved me that the main reason he's making youtube videos is to add fillers to his channel/content regardless of whether he documented what he's talking about prior to actual shooting or not. If Crop was a good thing then the Canon shooters wouldn't have bashed the 1.7!! crop in the 5D MkIV. If he's shooting sports exclusively then fine, enjoy the crop, but we also have to take everyone's real world usage in consideration that doesn't really welcome the crop in the majority of cases.
Sony and firmware....lol
Just to add something.
The Focus breathing compensation is still mostly working for GM lens and some of G lens. it is still not working for any third party lens just yet.
Thanks for a good review.
I doubt it ever will work with any third party lenses.
For me there’s a number of thing that would stop me or least make think twice from buying the a7iv. Rolling shutter as you say is a big one for me. The view finder resolution, buffer size, the shutter speed when shooting photos.10fps compared to 6 on the a7iv. The crop factors would annoy the hell out of me.
As it stands if you don’t need the resolution the a7s3 is by far the more complete camera. A7s3 gets more right in my eyes. But they add stuff and take stuff away.
completely agree!
Why are some of the reasons on this list exactly things that the a7siii has? 🤷♂️
Why people after so many years of talking about sensors apsc vs full frame, don’t get that the focal length of the lens does not change, is only the field of view that gets narrower. A 50mm stays a 50mm whether is full frame or apsc .
It’s a no brainer for Hybrid shooters… if you’re a video shooter, docs, podcasts professional environment…fx3 all the way. I’d rather have the higher quality photos. 😎 while not loosing much on the video end. Great video 😎
We are debating upgrading between these two cameras 🤔 How is the A7iv lcd screen when filming outdoors vs the A7siii? Thanks Sydney!
They’re both not very good haha. I just use the EVF when I’m filming outdoors
a7siii + a7iv = 6355$, why not just get the Sony A1 at that point?
I’m wonder what camera has the better 1080p. I’m selective what I film in 4K just for file sizes. Good video, surprised me to see the backlash you got in the comments.
Which one to get if image quality, color, and low light is what matters most
FYI. Focus map is Red (foreground, Blue (Background) and no color when in focus.
I feel like a cant go backwards from A7siii. I want to buy another or the FX3. A7siii = WORTH IT
Yeah man. My Siii has been a beast!
@@maruwaanmoses Right. I'm coming up on a year with it. Did some dope projects but still havent fully unleashed it. Very close to the perfect cam in my opinion.
@@AM1media absolutely man! With built in ND filters and it would be the "perfect camera"!
Currently in the market for a new camera and you convinced me! Didn't know about the livestreaming capabilities! REALLY COOL!
I LOVE THIS CAMERA!!!!
I have totally pre-ordered the Sony a7iv. I have been waiting for this camera since the a7siii came out. a7siii is a lot of money and so is the a7iv but it is easier to stomach the a7iv price! I cannot wait to get this camera!!!
Yeah, the price of the A7IV is way better!
Ooo yeah me too. I preordered it same day ..21st? 🤣 ugh can’t wait to get it
@@viktor928 I am so pumped to get this camera. Is it perfect, no, but it is an upgrade for me so that makes me excited.
@@BrianTheCameraGuy me too. My Canon 70D and Nikon D750 are going on vacation 😂…soon. Great cameras served me well! The rolling shutter and crop 4k 60….does not affect my wedding hybrid work, neither shooting the compressed raw….
@@viktor928 I would agree with you about both. Everyone makes a big deal about the cropped 4k but it will be some of the best cropped 4k that Sony has to offer. The 10 bit 4.2.2 is 100% got me. I am so done with 8 bit.
I love the A74. One of the easiest cameras to use I've ever owned. It's awesome.
i think red in focus map is for foreground and blue is background. the one that doesn't have color map is focus? isn't it?
Yes, I believe you’re right.
Isnt the crop factor on sony 1.5x and on the canon 1.6x ??
That’s what I thought too.
Yes please do a video on color. Both slog 10 bit and standard 10 bit. I’m noticing an improvement in skin tones and green shift
I think I will! It’s definitely slightly better than the A7SIII…
I actually don't really mind the 4k 60p crop! In fact it's kind of a good thing to me, because the times I need to shoot 60p I usually use the sigma 18-35, which is a crop lens anyway! I'm very much happy that crop mode is also downsampled!
Agreed. I know sony did this to keep the A7Siii appealing but there are so many ways around that crop. It's very hard for me to see that as a major fall back... Maybe the pixel police 😆.. Heck, even the 1080 on the A7IV looks crisp and modern. Whether it's good is subjective but this is far from a deal breaker for me also. ✊
I don't mind it either, because I'm usually doing close-ups when shooting slow-mo.
I hate any forced crops, just me though
Huff that copiummmmmmmm
The A7Siii is the perfect video camera imo it’s everything I ever wanted since I started being interested in using real cameras for video.
I shoot in 4k 60fps so sticking with my A7SIII but would like more than 12Mb for stills! Hopefully gets replaced soon!
Don't count on it. It's been more than 5 years before the a7s3 came out. You'll be waiting for a while.
Great video man. Really like the idea of going the hybrid route when I jump to full frame, so this was really reassuring seeing that the features are this close. That rolling shutter does make a bit nervous though lol
Taking photo & Video, A7iv or A7siii
which camera would prefer to buy? Concern about that 12mp photo megapixel and 4K 60 crop difference?
Please could you Vlog the selling process? Edit: well… now I know the outcome of your decision, please still Vlog any gear selling process?
Not sure I'd agree that A7iii owners would be happy to "upgrade" to another camera with bad rolling shutter performance because that's what they already have. In fact, it's a deal breaker for me.
I wouldn’t call it a deal breaker lol. At least you have the ability to film in 10-but
It greatly depends on what youre' shooting. If your'e shooting lots of fast moving handheld stuff, then yeah the A7S3/FX3 is going to better.
Would you prefere 4k60 with Super 35 but in 10bit 4:2:2 OR would you take 4k60 without a crop but in 8bit 4:2:0? I think I prefere the 10bit and take the crop and if I dont want it I just shoot in 1080p60 10bit 4:2:2 full frame.
I would just buy an a7siii, lol
But the battery life for the A7IV in 4K sucks (only about 20 mins), then shut down because internal temperature is too high. This happened in the winter! I returned mine and will look at getting the A7SIII.
Why would they be reasons the sell the A7SIII for the A7IV if most of the reasons are ‘equal to’ the A7SIII. Maybe crop mode.I’ll give you that! 🤣…but not in 4K 60P.
I’m defo selling my my A7SII for the A7IV, for all the reasons in the video. But not an A7SIII!
Lets hope Sony brings Focus breathing and mapping to the A7SIII in a firmware update.
It's called clickbait my dude
It cost less. Could probably get a lens equivalent to the price of an a7siii
@@BrandonAhmaud For sure, good excuse to get a 20mm, or even 24mm 1.4 gm
This may be partially click bait but at the same time... The A7siii pictures look worse than my canon m50... So.. I would say if a photographer accidentally bought that camera for hybrid work to get the latest and greatest with hopes it'll look professional.. That would be a real good reason to sell the A7Siii for the A7IV. Not to mention its way cheaper. 😊
@@cbmuze1016 bro I tripped, fell, and accidentally bought a $3500 camera without researching it
So the used A7SIII are coming in at 2800 if so then new a7iv with 2500 or a7s3 with 28-29K
Edit…after watching the entire video, I saw you touched upon the crop factor in 4k60. My initial comment was related to the crop mode section:)). Always better to be able to choose if you apply crop or not for video.
4k15 vs 1080p 60 for live stream recording, hmm u got me thinking about things..
Sony should really bring a firmware update where users will get option to enable 4k-60 in full frame! I dont mind pixel binning or whatever issue is.
i would buy the A7 IV today, if there where no crop at 4k 60...then this camera would be perfect for me...
@@MontagoDK can u explain? for me as an austrian :)
@@wolframmarius9009 sorry i was wrong
@@wolframmarius9009 Same for me !!!
If they do, it will cannibalize sales of the a7s3. Not gonna happen.
Does the rolling shutter problem is that big of a deal in this camera or in filmmaking ?
yes a7iv has a big rolling shutter problem
I have a canon 5d mark3,need to add one for video. Which one should I pick?
I didn't have time to watch all the video, just key features. But I loved what I saw, thanks a million for this video!
I would only sell my a7siii so I can buy 2 a7ivs instead of my current combo an a7siii and a7iii which is difficult especially in post. Unfortunately I didn't have enough cash to get 2 x a7siii so 2 x a7ivs seems like the next best combo.
I think never should be compared 2 different camera, aS7 III is especially for video a7IV is a hybrid camera for both video and photo. And it has 1,5 developement advantage over a7S III. I think a7IV is not better in iso and dynamic. It has advantages in autofocus and cropped/stabilized mode, but it didn't get 4k120p and has an awful rolling shutter (or I should use 35mm crop mode for a little bit better rolling shutter effect - insane in an FF camera). So also a beginner filmmaker will buy still A7SIII overt the a7IV. "Dogs must be fed"... They have given something for people, but I think this is not that why someone could say "Selling my Sony A7SIII for the Sony A7IV"... But I understand, this product must be also promoted and sold...
Focus breathing compensation check here: Pretty sure it doesn't fix it "regardless of what lens you use" and is only for approved lenses on a list Sony has. For example it doesn't fix breathing on the 50mm 2.5 G lens and the other G lenses of that size do not benefit from focus breathing compensation yet.
Doesn't Sony A7s3 also have active stabilizaiton?
yep, a7iv/a7S3/FX3/A1 all have same active ibis which is a big improvement over standard ibis
Is the 1080p the same quality or better than the a7iii?
likely, given the increased pixel count & same poor rolling shutter I would assume so (trying to find some info)
A7sIII also has a fully articulated screen, I don’t get the point about it being the reason you’d favor A7 IV.
About the crop, could you not just crop on the sensor on the A7S3 anyway? It's the best of both worlds.
If you crop in on the A7Siii in 4K, it goes to 1080p because of the 12mp.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Good point. I forgot about that. 👍
Pretty sure focus breathing comp is only compatible with a small amount of Sony lenses
Ok but what about if you could only have one of the two?
I'd go with the A7IV to be honest
is the new A7IV compatible with Capture one wired tether?
Where do you suggest to sell your cameras?
I thought the both cameras had the same bodies, which means the each grip is the same size, so why did you say the A7iv was bigger? Or maybe I misunderstood? Great video btw!
A7IV has a thicker and a little bit longer grip. Thanks for watching!
@@SidneyDiongzon So it is not the exact same body as I keep hearing?
@@WilliamAbbate It's the same except for the grip size
I'm surprised you never mentioned the overheating. A lot of the features seem nice but if it overheats then whats the point
I’m thinking of selling my A7S3 for the A7iv…what’s a reputable place to do that online?
GearFocus.com
Sony should update firmware for A7s3 to include Focus Map and Focus Breathing compensation.
And shutter angle!!!
And sensor cover by shutter
Great video Sidney!! Great quality! Exactly the info I was looking for.
Is base iso something that manufacturers disclose? Googling the base iso of the A7IV seems to give me conflicting information
If you like photo more than go for the a7iv. You can spend the extra 1000 on lens or m1 pro macbook. however s is the best for video. I may get a7iv if screen is decent since I don't use 4k 120 often. Also I think only the a7iv has beauty filter right? More Friendly for girls or save some times for editing lol
COLOR GRADE, COLOR GRADE, COLOR GRADE......... HELLL YEAH, CANT WAIT!!!!
Sidney! a7iv would be attractive to me if it had active cooling. . . 💨
Hi! About rolling shutter. Got a Sony A7S2. Will the A74 be the same, worse or better? Thanks for a great video!
And just like that, I’m torn. Why, Sidney, whyyyy? 🤦🏾♂️ (dusting off the credit card right now….)
😂😂😂
That's kinda slap in face at end. Of course you'd keep both. Who wouldn't want both. But which one if you could only have one is the question...
Thanks for the video Sidney! Would you say the stabilization is the same, better, or worse than the A7S III?
It would be great second camera as back up to my Sony A s 7 3. 4k 120 is life. I don't think I could replace it with this camera though.
Not to be a pain but at Time code 10:28 you say that the a74 has a bigger grip but your pointing at the a7s3..
The focus breathing is not on every lens, only certain sony lenses
Thank you. I’ve been pondering the a7 iv or the a7c and think this helped me decide the a7 iv.
No way I’d sell my siii without knowing when you’d actually be able to get the a7iv. People are still waiting on siii right now, so this one will be pretty difficult to get. I’m considering just buying a a7iii in the meantime until they are in stock.
If you’re a working professional I’d wait at least 6 months before purchase. Wait to see if there are any bugs. That’s what I’d do.
That’s 6 months of work you could be missing out on lol
@@SidneyDiongzon right! that's crazy talk lol
Love you, bro, but the crop aint 1.6, only canon uses that crap, it's 1.5
Hi, thanks to share your interesting video. I'd like to ask a question please: I make only documentaries in 4K around the world, I don't take Pics. I take interest about a good image quality of the video. I only shoot handheld footage and never use the tripod, does it have a good stabilizer? Do you suggest this Sony A7 IV camera for 4K videos? Thanks you.
Amazing video as usual, thanks a lot!
Did you or someone tried the 4K 60p with the Ninja V, is it still only on the crop mode?
Thanks! I haven't tried this with the Ninja V, but that's something I'd like to test out now!
@@SidneyDiongzon I just realise that no one test it ;) (Please tell me it's working)
Looking forward...
That would be amazing 🤞
Hi @@SidneyDiongzon, did you check it already maybe?
A7iv autofocuss down to -4EV, while the A7S3 down to -6EV. So if you shoot in low light, A7S3 is much better. FYI A1 is -5EV
good info thx
Excellent comparison! thanks a ton! I would get the sony a7IV as a second camera on video and to use it for wedding events in photography! Cheers, Isma
That's awesome Sid! yeah, plus it's $1k cheaper 😁but the crop mode at 4k60... 😌 they had to get us with something 😄
What picture profile are you now using with the a7IV?
Still S-Log3!
Hope we get that color mapping and focus breathing comp. in the a7siii.
Introducing: The Sony Alpha 7S IV
5:54 I heard focus breathing compensation is not for any lens, just particular Sony lenses.
i like that new custom dial!
Hello, loved your videos …I am new in photography and I want to make short cinematic videos , vlogs and also want to take some great pictures for property on airbnb …I want the camera which is good in both still pictures and videography …which one do you suggest if budget is between 3000-5000usd …can you recommend 2-3 options …I have shortlisted Sony A7 III / Sony A7 IV/ Sony A7R III / SONY A7S III
Great info, I will be using the crop mode tip with my Sony 20mm lens for sure!! Can't wait for pre-orders to start shipping!
I wish there will be a firmware to upgrade the A7SIII AF system in the near future. the A7SIII's AF is good when it can see human eyes, otherwise it sux.
You keep talking about the bigger grip of the A7IV while actually touching the A7SIII which has the bigger grip, weird.
The A74 has the bigger grip yo
Only reason NOT to is Crop in 60p 4K
Hey 👋 can we shoot 100fps at 1080p and at 10bit , not talking about s&q mode but rather if we can map custom button as the a7 III to 1 or 2 and that is shot at 10bit , please clarify as unable to find answer anywhere
Very cool comparison, got to know a lot of the features of the 4 by watching.
Hi Sidney. Thanks for the video. Are the base ISOs (800 and 3200) if you are filming in slog3? Or no PP?
FYI, the A7SIII doesn't actually have a 12MP sensor. It has essentially the same sensor as the A1, just an older revision of it. To get the 12MP, they do 4x adjacent pixel compositing. In reality, the A7IV has slightly larger physical photosites than the A7SIII. This is why it performs so comparably in terms of ISO performance, and why the A1 could (seemingly inexplicably) do essentially everything the A7SIII can do (and more) despite the relatively short amount of time between their respective releases.
*_I got a7iv just today and i am looking for a cage...would tilta a7siii cage fit a7iv????_*
Thanks for your great video!
I've a question: What software do you use to edit the 10 bit 4K 4.2.2 videos of the A7 IV?
Thanks a lot for the video… but it’s kinda weird that the title is 10 reasons why you would sell the A7S III for A7 IV, which I suppose you would list things that A7 IV do better than the A7S III, and the first thing you mentioned is 10bit 422 recording… I mean A7S III can do it too, right? It’s true that crop mode is something that higher MP cameras have but the A7S III doesn’t, but 10 bit, color science, high ISO performance… None of them are the “advantages” over the A7S III, or definitely not the reason why you would sell the A7S III for, right, You did mentioned it at the end of the video, but if it’s not good pls don’t just say it at the end, pls mention that in the video where you are talking about it. Sorry to be blunt…found this video really misleading…
Selling the A7SIII would be a mistake in my opinion the a7Siii is a masterpiece, I can see people buying the a74 as a second cam.
Im thinking of selling mine for 2. And then selling my FX6 for the FX3. It’ll be nice to have S35 mode back and getting some cinema lenses shooting 4K.
You know you can just crop in while editing. I am seriously confused by everyone being impressed by a crop mode and convincing themselves it's a pro instead of a con.
@@dylanolmstead6647 When I crop in during post I'm losing resolution. If I use S35 mode at the time of recording I'm not losing anything because it has enough pixels. I get kind of get two focal lengths out of one lens when I don't want to change lenses (especially if I'm moving quick or in a dusty environment). Also opens up options for APS-C lenses and be able to shoot in 4k where I can't do that with my A7SIII or FX6.
I thought about selling my a7siii and getting the a7iv, but I need a B cam and if I did that I would end up in the same boat. So I think I’m gonna get a a7iii or bite the bullet and get the a7iv to go along with my a7siii…. We have got to come up with a better way to describe these cams lol
Even with the 7iv release, still want another 7siii or fx3.
@@AM1media if I had the extra dough I definitely wouldn’t mind another a7siii!
@@Coach_Chris_ It's only money man!! 😂😂
@@AM1media hahahaha agreed!
Sony apsc is 1.5 crop because it is the same as nikon, because history... canon has a crop of 1.6
For any video this camera do you UHS ii 170MB writing it's enough V30
Now I’m super confused.. I like the crop mode.. but I wish 4K 60 was in full frame. Do you think this would potentially be a firmware?
No idea!
Nope. If Sony puts full frame 4k 60p on the a7iv, it would cannibalize sales from the a7s3.
How's editing with the a7iv footage? Is is smoother or harder to edit than the a7s3?
Great actually!
Woud it not be the same? Isn't it using the same codecs?
@@TyroneLT don't think so plus I believe a7s have higher bitrate as well which the a74 still at a
100. I could be wrong
@@WargodFilms This was the case with the A7III, but the A7IV records up to 600 mbps ALL-I 4k60 now. Codecs are vastly improved from 100 mbps XAVC-S LONG GOP!
the crop factor in crop mode is 1.5 not 1.6!!