How LeBron & Lakers FELL APART vs. Jokic & Nuggets in Game 1 | Hoops Tonight
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2024
- Jason Timpf breaks down film from LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and the Los Angeles Lakers' 114-103 loss to Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, and the Denver Nuggets in Game 1 of their NBA Playoffs series. Jason discusses how LA's early lead evaporated and what must be fixed for the Lakers to have any chance in the series.
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I wish, just for fairness, that Jason had taken a look at the fouls Jokic was complaining about when AD was guarding him on the post. Jokic kept telling the refs that AD was pulling him at the hip.
Its the playoffs and those fouls dont get called . . . AD has the ability to make shots over Jokic easily . . so why keep floating outside paint and not keeping you head in the game. The film doesnt lie
@@adriangallyot4193they totally get called... In Favor of the Lakers.
Lakers got a bunch of them
Jason is incapable of being unbiased when talking about the Lakers and LeBron. He will not do any actual work and in fact the only foul he referenced here was one clear foul called against LeBron that he didn't agree with. Then he grifts and calls every other fanbase losers for acknowledging a discrepancy so big this year that it reeks of favoritism.
@@sbeaber This is factually incorrect. Stop analyzing basketball with your emotions.
I just don’t understand how 64 points in the paint only equate to 6 freethrows😂 stop comparing the lakers to past teams compare them to the teams they are facing in the GAMES IN QUESTION like LAST NIGHT Denver dominated the paint and the 3 pts line and only get 6 freethrows… lakers DEFENSE somehow didn’t foul in the second half lol… address those numbers… lakers fanboys go to the stats an instantly assume that becuase “lakers don’t foul” means everynight there going to have 400 more Fts… lol 😂
The man just said the Lakers are top 3 in defending without fouling. Dang, y'all slow 😂😂
@@herusun3654no they aren’t. AD and Lebron foul all the time and don’t get called. AD had his arms around Jokic’s waist all night
Lakers are known to not foul when defending. Nuggets are known to not seek for fouls when attacking. Get those together. This is an expected result.
@@herusun3654 @berryesseen stop looking at the macro and focus on the actual game… lol if you watched the game there no way AD DIDNT FOUL JOKIC IN THE SECOND HALF.. lol 😂hide behind whatever stats you choose bro watch the games stop regurgitating what Jason Raymone TIMF James said lol
@@Desnond dude refs make mistakes. The refs bad calls have gone our way as much as it had gone yours. Denver fanbase are so weird. Your team is contending to repeat but the fanbase has a losers mentality of blaming the refs all the time. What a miserable fan base you are.
It's not that Lakers getting calls. It's the reluctance to give Joker the calls despite AD grabbing his jersey all the time.
Holding onto his waist constantly!
It’s both lol
He's so big and strong, plus he is skilled. AD tugging at him won't matter. That's why in spite of the foul baiting and no calls, Nuggets have beat Lakers 9 straight. They execute and play smart defense.
@@clanwaddell5628It doesn’t matter if it effects him. It’s a foul. If a person is fouled the foul must be called.
Nobody pushes off as much as Jokic, constantly throwing his arm into defenders to create separation
lol talking about officiating as if it’s in favor of the nuggets 🤣 dude cmon
It’s nasty work bro😂
Never heard him say that. Think he said the conspiracy about the Lakers being helped based solely off ft numbers was ridiculous. I would work on your listening comprehension skills.
What facts would need to be presented to you to acknowledge that bad calls went against the Lakers? In order to have an opinion, you should be willing to admit if there are bad calls against a team you don't like.
@@andrewpulsipher2062these dudes got too much hate in their hearts bro. The amount of emotional grown ass men in these comments bitching is honestly hilarious
@IsaacClark23 😂 facts.
"Our game plan is to expose he Lakers and make Dlo feel like a tiny tiny man." - Gru
Helluva plan😂
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Lmfao 😆😂
Last time Lakers had 6 FTAs at home?
In a playoff game no less!
Literally never.
They threw up 40+ 3s. Why would you expect Fts from that
@@ryankayombya7576nuggets also led in paint scoring so what is ur point
Love the analysis, but the free throw disparity stuff was a little deceptive. It isn't the defending without fouling, it's the defending without getting called for fouls they do commit, while the teams they play don't get that same benefit. Several trips last night you could plainly see Davis with his off hand around Jokic's waist but never get called for the foul. It's a foul that most players get called on.
If your team is called Lakers, you get away with few things. Everybody wants Lakers to get through. A little bit of help shouldn’t hurt.
that play in question, Davis was totally hooking Joker's waist...in front of the ref. No call. Its getting pretty blatant.
Expecting a lebron shill to accept reality is impossible, stop wasting your time, larry.
Yeah all what Jason did was "look at these other years guys! Dont pay attention to this year's disparity"
@@user-mp3pf2ir2pit was pathetic.
We have a lot of good comments countering your bias on the lakers fouls disparity. The simple fact is that refs gives lakers easy calls. Lebron bumps into jokic, reaves +1 are all similar calls that nuggets barely gets. Jokic just don’t get those calls most of the time
So rich, a Laker fan saying a call against them was bad.
Yes other teams do get favorable calls, grow up
@@andref9663not compared to the Lakers, WAKE up.
@@andref9663if you didnt see the blatant misses nobody can help you
@@andref9663 These losers will never understand that the refs are almost never never a valid talking point in basketball games. Paige Bueckers, a 21 year old, after losing her shot at a NCAA FINAL partly because of a bad call was the ultimate grown up in her post game interview and she didnt even take a second to critisize the refs. Yet here these losers are complaining about AD periodically pinching Jokic on the hip in a PLAYOFF game that the nuggets WON and in a series that they will 100% WIN.
@@akig122 bozo
The Lakers addiction to FTA is showing in their lazy play. Refs have been bailing them out for to long.
THE GIG IS UP
Yes. And the defending champs shooting 6 free throws at home to open the playoffs is insane.
Nah, we get to the rim, go to the basket we get freethrows, shoot 40 3s you probably won't get them, simple game
Yup been saying if there wasnt many LARefs/LAFts in the lat 2 years they don't even make the play in.
@@dannyaoalssondidn’t deserve em
The issue wasn't the number of free throws the Lakers got. The idea that the Lakers are grifting free throws (uh, yeah, obviously) and that it hurts them overall seems reasonable to me. But that's not in any way the point here in this particular game. The point is that the Nuggets got 6 free throw attempts. Zero in the second half. That's beyond outrageous in a very physical game. It's actually impossible unless officials are completely incompetent like they were yesterday. Jokic should have had 10 by himself. We didn't need a season long trend analysis. Just watch that game and that film.
Yeah, "BuT tHe LaKeRs DeFeNd WiThOuT fOuLiNg" pathetic! Yeah, with all their great defenders! Bout to block this channel.
Then could you break down all those 10 ft jokic should have? You should also put into account that refs make mistake. Did you see that game against boston when bron was clearly fouled going for the winning layup? So clearly calls go against us as much as it is to you. There is no conspiracy about it. You can't prove it anyways other than just your feelings got hurt.
If the NBA really favored the Lakers then why didn't they just suspend MPJ after what happened to his brother. Suspending would help the Lakees right. Again the nuggets clearly are the better team and most likely going to repeat but somehow the fan base has a loser mentality which is just funny.
@@patrickjane2024 why would mpj get suspended for his brother being a moron lol?
You're really reaching lol
@@patrickjane2024oh but literally we can prove it. Nuggets have beaten the lakers in 9 straight games with a total of 130 free throws compared to 200 for the lakers. Jokic barely has as many free throws as Joel Embiid this season and Joel missed like 35 games this season. There’s literal proof that the nuggets don’t get free throws and everyone is noticing now because they are playing the team that gets the most free throws so it looks crazy. It’s gonna be real hard for any official this series. If they don’t want criticism than there just gonna have to call fair games. People don’t like the lakers and really hate lebron. So there eyes are on the refs to call a fair game.
Man... your take at the end was absolutely horrible and an extreme gaslight. Stating that the Lakers are top 3 in drawing fouls and not fouling does not prove your agenda. There is zero explanation for the Nuggets having zero free throw attempts in the 2nd half. There is zero explanation why the 17th ranked defense is only 3rd in defending without fouls. There is zero explanation why the 2x MVP, soon to be 3x MVP, got 2 free throw attempts with AD bear hugging him all game off of 23 shot attempts. There is zero explanation why the Lakers who had 54 points in the paint on 38 drives got 19 free throws compared to the Nuggets 64 points in the paint on 30 drives who only got 6 free throws.
Your entire point this video was how the Lakers didn't execute, how they got lazy, how they had mental break downs. You can't tell me that a team that had that poor of a lapse didn't commit fouls during the entire 2nd half when that team played their worst basketball.
In one of your clips where Jokic drove to the basket, made contact with Reaves and made the bucket... that exact play was called a foul when Lebron drove into Jokic (Lebron initiated contact and Jokic didn't even touch Lebron outside of the initiation).
You are missing the entire free throw disparity point entirely and are coming across as a homer. As someone as intelligent as yourself, who breaks down a lot of film, I feel like you can do a better job in removing your LA bias and actual look at the facts instead of some crappy graph that shows historic free throw disparities. We are talking about the Lakers this year and last year. Not comparing them to other historic teams. A team that ranks 15th in offense and 17th in defense should not have such a large free throw disparity night in and night out.
As someone who doesn’t care who wins, who cares lol.
Bro. It's okay. It's okay. Here's some tissue
Preach!! 🎉❤
JT really grasping at straws in this discussion, it's kind of embarrassing. 😪😭
THANK YOU
The Lakers overhelped a lot during the season to avoid shots at the rim to give wide open threes. they have to give up something. Teams take a lot of threes and jumpshots against them, this isn’t rocket science. When they deal with speed, they just fold most of the time. No one fouls, they just give up a layup. Also look at rim frequency and efficiency.
@HoopsTonight The issue regarding the FTs was not about differential overall (that is a lazy argument that losers use I agree) but just how Nuggets are officiated in general, including when playing the Lakers. Nuggets are 9th in the NBA when it comes to defending without fouling so your argument that they make too many fouls is just untrue. A team that has absolute elite post presence in Jokic, monsters at pressuring the rim like Gordon, Watson even Braun, as well as excellent shot makers, is 26th!! in the NBA when it comes to drawn fouls. That is just absurd. A look at Jokic's body throughout the game is enough to see what kind of whistle he gets while he is constantly mauled. Even in Game 1 on Saturday, AD got away with so much shit, grabbing around the waste, and stuff. On the other hand the calls that non-stars like Reeves and such get on the other side are just, well supersoft... I like the physical game just want the whistle to be at least close to equal, especially when playing at home. And it has never been when it comes to Nuggets. Jokic is a superstar who gets by far the least amount of calls. Fan of the show btw, keep up the good work!
Same thing happens to Steph on the perimeter. He gets CLOBBERED, no call. Especially since Steph gets hit on threes, refs will actively not call the foul cause they don't want to award three free throws. The NBA has had this problem of free throws being WAY too arbitrary for far too long
9th from a team in the top 3 is a big gap bro. That means the lakers NEVER foul.
@wesleycuban8649 Because they don't call the same fouls on the Lakers! The Lakers have one great defender and a bunch of poor defenders, and yet they never commit any fouls. They ant the 80s Nuggets either.
Reaves doesn't even get that many calls
truee and never forget LAL vs toronto
in 4th quarter LAL get 20 free throw that is insanity
"SEE THE LAKERS HAVE GOTTEN BULLSHIT CALLS ALL YEAR THAT MEANS ITS NORMAL AND OKAY, I PROVED IT"
Lakers fans coping about the Fts is insane lol.
"Its actually bad that the Lakers have shot 500+more free throws than their opponents over the course of the season" 😂
Denver shot 6 fts, 6. And won comfortably. End of the game AD and Lebron were absolutely gassed. Its game one, pack it up boys its over
Facts, you ain't getting over the line with a geriatric bron. He ain't the one. And not like davis is a game changer. And finally garbage time reaves who shows up when the game is over. Yeah this team is cooked. And funny thing is DLO has lost all his good will from the season in one game. If he can't produce at least 2 games in this series because let's be honest they ain't winning it. Than he may as well pick up the players option and get traded to whoever. Ain't no one backing up the bricks truck to him
It was embarrassing. What a clown. 🤡
Disappointing.
Uh, Lakers fans aren’t coping about the fts. Lakers fan are coping about the coaching and beating themselves. They stopped playcalling midway in the 2nd, giving Denver better shots(guess what they don’t stop playcalling ever).
@@thumpthumptv1651you are coping about coping. What a sad time to be part of the Lakers cult. 😂😂
@@watchmesquatch So you don't agree with the fact that Denver runs organized offense at an extremely high rate compared to other teams? You don't see the Lakers literally going iso / mismatch hunting / vanilla PNR and AD chucking up threes giving Denver a free possession defensively essentially. Don't be an idiot and actually provide your counterargument. Despite the off rebounds advantage Denver had and the lacking production from the other starting 3, they could've still won. This isn't some adjustment Denver made, the Lakers literally stopped running offense. A team can beat itself, not hard to realize that.
My favorite delusional Laker Fan, Jason. 😂
Not delusional but so clearly biased that you can't really trust any of his takes about the Lakers or series they Play In (pun intended). Way too much attention paid to a team that since Jeannie Buss took over is a lottery team or a play in team every year with the one championship exception in the bubble.
You aren't going to win many playoff games when your "best player" is a no-show in the 4th quarter.
Both Jokic and Murray outplayed LeBron in the 4th.
The spinzone take on the FTA discussion actually having downsides for LA is so shameless. This matchup over the last 18 months has truly brought any LA/Bron fans to a dark, dark place lmao. Just unfathomably asinine stuff to save face where you think you can.
I mean listen, it’s clear as day to anyone with two eyes the lakers have a more favorable whistle then other teams, NOT related to anything skill wise😂. The MISSED calls on them are immense & it’s shocking we haven’t seen a film breakdown of that….. HOWEVER, the league definitely isn’t trying to help the lakers win or something like that. Laker’s just have as he said , grifters. & unfortunately, grifters get rewarded. But they came into the playoffs thru the play in😂, that’s not a team the league is helping win
As definitely not a Lakers/LeBron fan and a somewhat Nuggets fan (live in Denver, my #2 team until Draymond retires [go MSU]) there is a drawback. AD especially flops/grifts so much on shot trying to draw fouls that it is noticeable in almost every game I happen to catch the Lakers in - mainly the playoffs and GSW games. Now, is it a net negative? That'd require some deep-dive analysis that neither you nor I would want to do but just watching the game it is very noticeable from AD and not as glaring from LeBron likely because he can get back on defense quicker.
It's a huge problem that has plagued the league for years now. Players and teams are arbitrarily chosen to receive more or less calls almost completely by chance. Certainly not for basketball reasons. The same level of contact is called differently depending on the player and the team. That's BS and should not ever ever happen. Foul baiting should not be a viable tactic. The Lakers coasted to the wcf last year solely off of free throws. They weren't a particularly great all around defense. They weren't a great offense. They're not very talented. Literally, it was just getting spotted 15-20 extra points every game.
@@UnoDinero95001 He is right about AD being possibly the best effective big man in the league without fouling. He is right about LA rostering a BUNCH of grifters that play big minutes. He is absolutely wrong about that math working itself out to collect over TWO TIMES the positive free-throw differential of other teams just this other season alone, and almost THREE TIMES over the last two season combined. That is well, well, well outside any reasonable variance that could possibly happen over those given time frames. It is quite literally hundreds of FTs outside what that variance would be on the upper end.
Go somewhere else if you hate Jason so much, you guys literally have zero clue what you’re talking about all you guys do is whine.
If it was really rigged you get Jokic and Murray in foul trouble and boom game over, you could even foul them out but does that happen? If the lakers can foul without getting called whenever they want I mean WOW why aren’t they the #1 defense? Being able to foul is a huge advantage they should be getting way more stops? Explain. I’ll wait
Come on, you are smarter than that! Off course to get a large FTA differential you MUST have to be one of the leaders in defending without fouling. This is not the issue. The thing is that the Lakers, specially LeBron, do foul and they are not calling it!! Besides that, a lot of the calls the Lakers get results from ridiculous acting of notorious floppers like LeBron and AR
Regarding you technical analysis, congratulations. Seems pretty accurate and very didactic
You can use those same numbers to help disprove your case too tho
What game this year that the nuggets only had 6 free throws? It is idiotic that the Lakers didn't get help. The joker is the best player in the world. I think he only went to the line once? So the Lakers magically didn't foul . People from Australia or Brazil have questioned the refs
I'm from Brazil and I agree : )
What you do not show in the discrepancy is the foul calls you see during games. The lakers get touch fouls in the line. Thats the reason why you get people saying it is a conspiracy.
Lakers' mantra: Flop, no call, transition, easy bucket, LeBron's tired, Lakers look to refs for FT. Nuggets in 5.
Left out one thing: If the Lakers are losing? LeBron fakes a serious injury and has to be peeled off the floor.
As a Lakers fan, I would be thrilled with that result at this point. Can we get one damn win please? 😂😭
All that was true, except: Nuggets in 4. 😊
@@dvdv8197 quidditch vs. basketball (brooms are powerfull)
Man pulls out a whole lecture about how the league doesn't glaze the Lakers with FT's. Here look at my evidence showing I'm not glazing as he proceeds to glaze the Lakers. Can't wait til the Nuggets sweep the Lakers. Nuggets > LA Glazers.
Please show us the footage of AD on joker and tell us why they are not fouls.
We all know he wouldnt dare
Jokic is a ground-bound finesse player who is large, extremely strong and very stable, all those things work against you in terms getting fouls. If designed a player in a lab to get zero calls it'd be him.
You are so far off. You can see the would that they don't call on jokic. He should get to the line a lot more!!!
Get the Lebrooms ready! Nugs in 4! 9 moral victories and counting.........
This dudes takes are unbelievable
It was seriously embarrassing. Very disappointed.
Didn't you hear, referees fixing a sports game is crazy conspiracy that could never happen 🤣🤣🤣
Is it just me or is Jamal Murray incredibly underrated as a defender. His stats don’t scream “defender,” per se, but to my eye he’s clutch and always makes the big defensive play. He was an especially great defender during last year’s playoffs.
Who knows, perhaps I’m wrong but I think he’s underrated.
I understand Lakers draw a lot of fouls but the Nuggets had 64 points in the paint and 6 FT.
The whistle has been very selective in all the playoff games, in fact EVERYONE has been getting less calls since the all-star game, they’re allowing more physicality and I love it
Big fan, honest question... is the # of total FTA differential total since start of 2022 season inaccurate? I see a chart showing LAL as + 1017. The next closest is 358... I dont have a grand conspiracy theory but my laymen eyeball test shows disparity in the way LAL games are called.
I appreciate you calling out Austin Reeves and Anthony Davis for grifting... Lebron obviously doing the same... so if they are grifting on one end and consistently getting favorable no-calls on the other end... that is how you get top 3 in both categories right?
Don’t hit him with facts. they all wanna be generalist and make true statements that mean nothing to what we are trying to collect context for lol yes AD and reeves are grifters. They don’t avg the most points in the league tho so it can’t be that crazy and there has to be other players in the league that don’t play for the lakers that do the same thing. Lakers can’t have the only grifters. Yet no other team gets free throws like the lakers do. Crazy af to think someone would try to come up with a basketball reason they have so many free throws and he comes up with there grifters 😂
💯 %.
They quit in the middle of the 2nd quarter . Lebron start throwing the ball away . Then AD started shooting 3s 😂 .
This is why MJ is in a tier of his own. Bron crumbles in the big moments too much
@@hk2737Recency bias a hell of a drug I bet you never even watched MJ had a lot of games where he was throwin up bricks.
@@Moesly443 I think you dont know what recency bias is? But I agree with you, Mj not a good shooter and really throwing bricks
@@chris-oy7ey He mentioned big moments like Bron hasn’t had his fair share of big games in big moments he just used this game to claim that about his career aka recency bias.
@@Moesly443 All I know is, MJ would never lose to a team 9 times in a row. Bron aint got that killer mentality!
A better title for the video, "How the Lakers were taken apart by the Nuggets"
So a poorly coached d doesn't foul alot... youspent the whole video pointing out how poor their D is and how they lack discipline... but yet they don't foul alot...
the Lakers are treated different we all know that.
Man, I was thinking the samething! Almost couldn't believe what I was hearing at the end! But but the 2018 Hornets!
The lakers were barely defending, how many open looks did you guys get? A lazy defender doesn't foul.
Getting beat nine times in a row isn't "falling apart". It's getting beat by a better team.
If the refs are calling the other team and not calling on you... guess what... You would be the top three in those categories. One thing leads to the other, but you have it backward.
Over the past two years, the Lakers have +1000 free-throw differential, which leads the league. That is 700 more than the team in the two spot. But from the two spot to the bottom of the league, there is only a 600 gap, from +300 to -300. That is more than some coincidence or statistical anomaly. It's clear and obvious the treatment they get.
Dwight Howard was on that Charlotte team, and yes, hack-a-Howard was still a strategy being employed at that time which explains their high FT rate. In fact, Howard's teams during his prime were always at or near the top of FT rate, not because of the refs, but because of the deliberate strategies of the opposing teams. Howard accounts for most of those prior FT discrepancy leaders. The current Lakers are absolutely an outlier when you account for hack-a-Howard.
I can’t wait for the 30 fta to 9 fta game that’s coming lol.
The thing is if you watch the Lakers or Nuggets play the Lakers have players who foul bait and not so much with the Nuggets. Jokic does have possessions where he does but for the most part the Nuggets focus on making shots. There's plenty of guys in the league that foul bait. I personally don't like to see parietal hunting contact but I understand why players do it. My issue is if you're one of those players then I don't want to see you crying because someone does the same thing to you (foul baiting). As for this game of y'all pay attention you'll notice Davis, Reaves, Russell, and Prince hunting contact but most Nuggets players are hunting easy shots.
LeBalco needs a reup😤
Sad that we will enjoy LeChoke only three more games 🤣🤣🤣 I just love watching the goat after 21 years in the NBA pick up his dribble, gets lost and throw the ball in the stands 🤣🤣🤣
Good takes overall.... but you may be off when it comes to the foul disparity or perhaps I am. I watched the game without bias and the majority of fouls called on the Nuggets just flat out weren't fouls (obviously this is common, and you're going to get some bad calls, but it was excessive in this game and lopsided (within the first few minutes I could see that it was going to be a very strict reffed game, which it was, but Denver seemed to get the brunt by a pretty significant margin). I don't have a dog in the fight and of course they're just as likely to have bad officiated games against the Lakers or anyone, so it has nothing to do with a given team getting favoritism.
Many weren't the type of foul calls that could go either way... there just simply wasn't contact on any level. In the 4th quarter there were either 3 or 4 foul calls on Denver in a row that weren't fouls.
In the event you happen to watch tape on the game if you haven't already, I challenge you to look a little closer into the foul calls and see if you still think it was. I may do so myself just to make sure that I'm not embellishing. It's possible that a portion of them were the Lakers on fast breaks and driving the ball that drew the non foul foul calls. They still of course would be bad calls, but perhaps the Lakers did a better job of utilizing the bad reffing precedence that the refs had set early on. There weren't too many instances of fouls that weren't called from what I recall, but was it somewhat equal to the opposing side.
In general there are few things that are as inconsistent as NBA reffing and pretty much every game is reffed different. The one thing that's perhaps good is the reffing style typically remains consistent for a given game and you can usually tell early on how a game will be reffed. The thing I don't like about modern day reffing in particular is they make it difficult for players to contest shots. As a result players can get paranoid to contest shots so they do the half ass arm raise thing and they don't jump with the shooter (beyond protecting against the fake) in or around the paint because they know it will automatically in some games trigger a foul. It makes the game and the defender look really pathetic. I assume most of us wish they'd allow the players to play stronger on the ball defense. They of course allow a lot of physicality off the ball, but on the ball it can be ridiculously delicate, but I digress. It wasn't just that game, but I'm finding myself constantly frustrated with the refs anymore. I guess I just have to accept it and get over it.
Was the 4th quarter outside of “just those 2 stretches”??? lol these guys man
@hoopstonight
if you think this FT is conspirasy go play by play and explain what warrant foul in den vs lal to "put it to rest"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anyone who doesnt think jokic should have been at the line atleast 5 times doesnt know basketball
He averages like 4.5 fts a game you're telling me one less foul than normal in one game is a conspiracy.
Jokic is a ground-bound finesse player who is large, extremely strong and very stable, all those things work against you in terms getting fouls. If designed a player in a lab to get zero calls it'd be him.
@@Kosithegod AD was bear hugging his waist for multiple moments throughout the game since u saw the game you know that in 2nd half he was fouled a lot and no foul was called
Also the lakers in the 2nd half were sluggish and gassed their defense was a mess and all they did was grabbing and fouling if it weren't for the injustice the game would have stopped been competitive at the end of the 3d quarter look at the mavs game the clippers defense basically did the same thing the lakers did and the mavs were awarded by free throws in nearly every possession near the end of the game
WOW! The Nuggets just ended the refs 6 game road winning streak! 🤯😳😅
Jason needs to do a review of calls missed for each team throughout the game in order to put the conspiracy to bed. Telling people they're stupid for believing it won't help them stop by itself. They'll just claim bias and go right back to their stupidity.
He cannot do that cause if he does his bias will show more. In fact the one call he goes over in this clip is a clear foul and he tries to say the ref messed up lol he’s so bias he can’t help it. It’s not even for him just being a lakers fan. He’s trying to out smart his audience and give some bullshit basketball reason why they get free throws lol like other teams don’t have grifters on there team. Explain to why it only seems to work for the lakers tho? Women lie men lie numbers don’t 🤷♂️ we got receipts.
@gabehernandez538 to your point about the illegal screen, I think he was technically correct that his rolling to the basket early was actually inadvertent contact and technically not a foul but I had no problem with that one personally. It's understandable. The refs did miss a few for AD and Lebum though, and also missed Jokic committing a couple offensive fouls as well. That analysis is based on reviewing the game, not on free throw disparity numbers. It doesn't matter which team shot what number of free throws, it matters what team got away with more fouls than the other. If anything, that was Denver. But they're also just the better team and it's weak to try to blame everything on the refs. Nobody's getting screwed, the Lakers got fouled more than they fouled, that's it.
@@andrewpulsipher2062 lol yeah they got 19 free throws your right they should of had 40 and nuggets should of had 6 😂 I think the point is one team is known for getting no free throws at all (Denver) compared to a team that has double the amount of free throw attempts as anyone else in the league this year and if we go back to just last year it’s 3 times the amount lol
Net free-throw attempts since the start of last season (including the playoffs)...
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1. Lakers (+1,017)
2. Knicks (+358)
3. Bucks (+344)
These numbers don’t make you wanna throw up than just stop talking to me bro. There’s literally no coming back from these numbers. And don’t tell me it’s cause they live in the paint either
The Lakers are 27th in drives per game this season. They are 22nd in paint touches per game.
The slo-mo and stop-time play breakdowns were excellent. Thanks.
Great analysis as usual!
“Some blame”? 7 turnovers, 2 points in the 4th, ZERO defense, The offense literally runs through him.
“Some blame”. 😂😂😂
Excellect Analysis
Love all the film analysis.
Jason, these video breakdowns are so insightful. Thanks for your efforts to illustrate what is going on. It helps me put the series in a better perspective and feel that there are some concrete corrective actions tot take. Now the real question is whether Darvin Ham will actually make the right adjustments or “go back to the drawing board.”
Hell bron had nearly half the turnovers total of both teams in this game adding to his most untouchable and his longest living longevity stat he has since he has somewhere between 1-2k more turnovers than anyone in history
gr8 break down as usual .. keep it up
Will be tuning in for more film breakdowns
Great Analysis! Love it!
Nuggets vs lakers series 2023: Largest free throw discrepancy in a sweep, in NBA history.
Damn My Lakers are ass. So this was a bad shooting game from Murray, don't expect much more. We play tomorrow with 2 days rest with Lebron and AD playing 40 mins. Trust me do get calls, we don't have too make excuses for my team. Its bad we all know, AD pulled Jokic's Jersey and no call, Denver plays inside out so they play from the paint to the 3.
Id like to call Jason's FTA argument bad faith -- because it is -- but more accurately, its just a stupid argument that he's making. Sure, bad defenders get blown past and dont contest shots well, but they try to make up for it by grabbing, over-committing, and being out of position to guard soundly. They dont just flail around like a matador giving guys free lanes. You can go back to last nights game and see when AD could do literally nothing to stop Jokic when he had low postion and would just grab Jokic around the waist. This would occur right in front of the baseline ref and he just wouldn't call it. Of course you can use a "how much a team doesn't foul" stat as supposed "proof" of a team not fouling, but it's a logical fallacy since the refs aren't calling the fouls they actually commit. 🙄
Jokic does the same shit, shoving on rebounds etc. That isn’t something only the Lakers do, you think teams don’t try to abuse the margins?
@@thumpthumptv1651 You gonna cry. 😂😂 Bozo.
@@watchmesquatch Cry about what? You agree with this narrative as if Denver is this pristine infallible team that has no people who try to get away with fouling or any other advantage they can push. Instead of acting like a bozo, how about just saying "You know what you are right".
@@thumpthumptv1651 and he should get called for it when it happens, and the difference is that he can actually get called for it. Are you really trying to tell me that the Lakers did not do anything worthy of a foul call from the beginning in the first half until around 5 minutes left in the fourth quarter? The people who defend the lack of foul calls on the Lakers can only do so in bad faith and try to leave out half the details in order make the claim come remotely close to working.
Acting as if this is a matter of "abusing margins" is also silly. You don't end up with 3 times more free throws than an opponent with a more critical whistle of a playoff game because of margins. You don't end up with free throw differentials multiple times more than the next highest team because of margins.
@@bignamek No and I wouldn't be crazy enough to say that. I would bring up both teams getting away with fouls. Abusing margins goes well beyond just free throws, that went over your head. Break it down more and think about why it happened.
Free throw differentials for seasons.
2023 LAL +5.6
2022 UTA +4.1
2021 NOP +5.0
2020 OKC +5.3
2019 DAL +3.3
2018 CHA +8.8
2017 CHA +5.6
2016 HOU +4.7
2015 SAC +6.1
2014 HOU +8.6
Lets push the narrative that the Hornets were just being favored because they were a big market in 2018 and were a repeating "offender"
love the detail of these breakdowns
Facts, despite my frustration with the overtone or lack of shifting perception,
i do appreciate a guy this knowledgeable taking time out his day to point out the nuances within the game of basketball
I can't stand when AD starts shooting 3s. He makes them now and them but misses a lot. That's not what he's on the floor for.
You’re fantastic, Jason, and it’s unfortunate you’re getting blasted in the comments for that commentary at the end but I think the reasonable criticisms of the perspective are valid.
6 fts for Denver, 0 in the second half with a completely gassed and undisciplined Lakers squad does not add up. Lakers defenders were holding, grabbing, committing various contact that was being called against Denver on one end but not against them on the other. This is the type of thing you see that results in these massive discrepancies over two years.
Nuggets still win and have won battling the discrepancies in each of these matchups, and I tend to agree that blaming officials is a loser mentality, but it’s also a little disingenuous to not acknowledge that there’s likely an officiating bias going on here, even if only minor and not some super conspiracy.
Shooting 500+ more free throws than your opponents is not a super conspiracy. It's factual.
New subscriber love your takes saw u on Colin’s show. Looking forward to the content!
Your analyses are appreciated. Mabuhay!
Jason literally talks about Lakers being grifters and then brings up foul numbers. He literally doesn’t say anything about the no calls on AD guarding Nikola.
Been telling everyone that Lebron quit in the 2nd half. Nobody wanted to hear it lol.
It's not just fatigue, he looked defeated and didn't want to play when Denver made their run. they were done only 6 midway through the 4th. Lebron, even at this state could make solid plays. If they miss so be it. But he didn't even look like he was trying. Everything was a sloppy mess
The narrative of "the Lakers collapsed" or "fell apart" is hilarious. The Nuggets are just better like you mention a few times. The only time they weren't clearly superior is when Aaron Gordon was on the bench with 2 fouls from 6 minutes remaining in the first quarter to ~7 minutes remaining in the 2nd. [at least you do mention that AD and Reaves are grifters, that I appreciate]
Great work
Nuggets won despite taking the second fewest amount of free throws by a winning team in playoff history. 64 points in the paint? Come on dude, nuggets beating lakers 5 on 8.
As a Laker fan , yes, I'm sure Refs can do things to help a side over the other. Sure, they probably have before . Doesn't mean it successful 100% of the time
This is a really good film analysis. I am also glad that you are trying to address the free throw discrepancies, even though I don't agree with every point.
7 turn over HE HE HE
Terrible analysis. First play, bron is looking at Jokic because he’s backside help and mpj rolls over but bron still provides a a great close out but great shot by MPJ . AD doesn’t flop . The ball was literally knocked out of his hands backwards . During the transition defense , no one is suppose to have anyone . Gotta stop the ball and pick up whoever is the biggest threat . The guy double team jokic because you would rather give up Jackson shooting a 3 than an easy 2 to jokic . The next play levron has Murray on him and he just misses the shot . It’s happens . Terrible analysis of the game . The lakers played horrible defense but it was the way they were defending the pick and roll .
You should do these more often
As a Nuggets fan, this video sparks joy. Thanks JT
Watching ty lue coaching the clippers shows a stark contrast in coaching personnel with the lakers
I've been thinking a lot about foul baiting costing your team, especially when the whistle gets tighter in the playoffs. I watched the Mavs-CLippers game, and i can't remember who was defending but Harden had the ball and the guy fell back flailing wildly trying to draw. There was no whistle and Harden had a full 2 seconds to set up for a three, which he made.
The problem with your argument is that we aren’t talking about only this version of the lakers. It’s been like this for my lifetime. The lakers and Celtics are the teams the league can benefit most from being in the finals EVERY year. And you unknowingly helped legitimize the theory by mentioning the Celtics!
Ever since the merger the 2 teams that have had the most season leading the league in FT difference is 76ers(8 times), denver(7 times)…yall gotta stop pushing these conspiracy theories with literally no evidence to back it up
Lakers didn't collapse. The Nuggets are just way better. You should stick with tractor pull.
The entire Lakers needs balco. Refs are not enough.
Great work. I doubt lakers look at film and analysis like this which is why it's always the same script vs Denver
Hey Jason, love the playoff coverage thus far. I’d say the free throw disparity is more of a double edge sword rather than a net negative. It usually is beneficial and I’ll explain. The foul calls slowing the game down plays to their strengths and roster construction. Older superstar playing with a lot of size around him. Keeps them in the game endurance wise and makes it that much harder for younger, more athletic, faster paced teams to go on runs and play their game. Ie sac plays fast and doesn’t foul often. Without the calls the lakers would look just as old and ineffective as the warriors did in the play in game. The only team capable of beating this nuggets team in a series from the last 15 years is the 2016-2019 warriors
I am a huge life long laker fan ,Im new to your channel and absolutely love your content and your show ,ive found a go to show and a home ,thanks
the main issue this game was DLO taking 20 shots and playing 40 minutes while having a 33fg% and 1/9 from 3.
Rui should be shooting more shots
It's everyone outside of AD and Bron. Nobody on the team played good except Prince but even then he's still trash
@@iwaynewalker2456honestly i was surprised to see rui didn’t get more shots
QUESTION: why dont the lakers ice the screen and implement backside help from the weakside on jokic rolls, to slow down the pnr momentarily.
Great analysis, respect! One missing point, though: the TOs - LeBron 7, DEN starting 5 had ONE! Team-wise it was 12 to 4!
D'Lo and AR didn't deliver and that was a real bummer as it was clear Denver's supporting cast is superior and Lakers one literally had to deliver... and that also caused LeBron's frustration and lack of motifivation/energy/focus later on, so he was the catalyst for their loss.
AD's 3s were a total miscalculation - high risk and no reward... He should have been smart enough not to take them.
Very disappointing game, but in the end, the better team simply won.
You are the only LeBron fan I can listen to 😂
Great podcast. Keep it up bro
Facts😂 , everyone else is pretty unbearable
Except when he tries to explain that FT differential...
The Lakers didn't "barbecue their lead away". The Nuggets simply periodically stepped on the gas.
Nasty work:
Playing LeBron James 40+min at this point in his career.
Nastier work:
Arguing against the Free Throw disparity. The disparity is not the issue. The issue is that the Lakers get FAR MORE free throws than the Nuggets, despite both teams shooting relatively few 3s and scoring the bulk of their points very close to the rim:
Lakers
3 attempts: 31.4 per game (28th)
Restricted area: 25.6 (18th)
Paint: 19.6 (6th)
Mid-Range: 10.7 (6th)
Free throws: 24.2 *(2nd)*
Nuggets
3 attempts: 31.2 per game (30th)
Restricted area: 27.7 (10th)
Paint: 17.9 (15th)
Mid-Range: 10.7 (6th)
Free throws: 19.9 per game *(29th)*
The problem here is not that the Lakers have a better Free Throw disparity, that is explained by them getting a lot of them and not fouling a lot. The actual problem here is that the Nuggets get very few of them, despite the very similar scoring metrics around the basket. Jokic in particular simply does not get a superstar whistle.
In fact, he _has_ received a superstar whistle _once_ in his career so far. And that was during this season against the GSW at the Christmas game. You know the one, where Steve Kerr was moaning about foul baiting after the game. It stood out so much (and of course had a lot of eyeballs on it due to it being a nationally televised game) precisely because it was the _one_ time Jokic received a superstar whistle.
That is why during their 2020 run, Rondo was their 3rd best player. Because as soon as Lebron take a rest, Rondo eventually filled that gap of game management that Lebron was so good at and only Rondo can match that. And the great thing about Rondo during that time in LA, he improved so much his 3 point game where you left him wide open, you will pay for it. And on top of that, hey was so lazer focus on the defensive end with his match up with Murray. He outclass Murray in their matchup.
Mailbag: I've mentioned a few times in the mailbag that I use a methodology related to the traditional statistics to rate the overall contribution of players. I find it to be very revealing how "great-looking" performances can actually be much less than great. I used my more in-depth rating to evaluate LeBron's performance for Game 1. The more in-depth rating includes the Defensive Rating and True Shooting percentage in the calculation. Everything is based on the per-100 possessions statistics. (I calculated this value in Game 1 based on the Pace and LeBron' minutes played). Here's how LeBron's Game 1 performance compared to his career and 2023-24 regular season ratings:
+ LeBron's career value using my methodology is 63.5.
+ LeBron's value for this season was 60.1.
+ LeBron's value for Game 1 of the series against the Nuggets was 45.0.
It was dramatically lower! Yeah, his general stats were good; however, my methodology gives us a much clearer picture. I find that using my methodology provides a way to compare players fairly with one another (and to their own typical standards).
The Mailbag question is: "How do you (Jason) evaluate the overall player contribution based on statistics? Do you have a methodology for using a combination of defined statistics to evaluate player performances? Mine uses the traditional statistics in a way that directly relates to the points scored.
Please breakdown all fouls and missed fouls
our guy jason finally doing clips and graph now, this is over, i aint watching others anymore
Jason I know the series prolly doesn’t excite u but could u do tape on why Tyler herro struggled against Celtics game 1 , and how jrue and Derrick guarded him
DLO had a bad game but it kinda PMO when lebron started going off at him when he turned the ball over in transition. At the time, that was his 1st turnover. Meanwhile, bron had already had 3 and was throwing lazy passes all night. Showing up your teammates like that can be what contributes to them having a bad game.
Yeeerp fastest way to get someone overthinking everything every dribble. Lebrons been there, he should know better
watch the tape, analyze the calls, then develop a better argument
Bro really shit the bed with the free-throw take at the end.
64 points in the paint 6 free throws,AD pulling Jokices jersey the entire game with his hand on the guys hip.
As a Lebron and LA fan, that was damning….but really well done Jason, kudos
When you simply call it defending without fouling you are assuming your conclusion. There are certain things I’d like you to address. 1) at least half the time when LeBron drives, he lowers his shoulder and dislodges the defender. It’s a clear offensive foul but is never called, when it does get called against Laker opponents. 2) LeBron almost never sets a legal screen. He’s almost always moving, or throws his hip into the defender or hits the defender with an elbow as they come through the screen. Again, it’s almost never called. 3) in last nights game look at the and 1 that Reaves got on his nice little floater. Compare it to any number of possessions by Denver where nothing was called (and yeah, one example doesn’t make a trend, but I see this all the time with the Lakers, without regard for their opponents.).
Take a look at what happened with the Lakers right after the all-star break when the refs swallowed their whistles. They went into a slump. Then, all of a sudden, the free throw differential went up again for them, so that in 60% of their wins the margin of victory was less than the differential. It raises suspicion, and especially when you compare that stretch in terms of FTAs to other parts of the season.
You think we can't tell when a game is not called fairly? Laker fans/analysis explanation is the same "defend without fouling"😂 😂! You need the refs to make the foul call!!