Is Breath of the Wild Obsolete Now?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- With all that Tears of the Kingdom adds and improves upon, can we ever go back to Breath of the Wild?
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I realize I didn't mention the depths at all in this video. Mainly, that's because I both didn't have a lot to say about it and it also didn't factor much into what I wanted to discuss. Depths are cool, though. Cool as ICE.
You’re thinking of Penn. Seriously, that guy has insider knowledge from trendsetters or something.
Penn is the new kass
For a second there, I was completely lost. I thought you were talking about Penn Jillette or something! But yeah, it's always a delight to see him by the stables...the bird I mean. I don't know where Penn Jillette is right now.
@@JexoniteSoar long
Cryonis was cool aswell
The atmosphere in botw is better to me. Totk is a better game overall, but BotW was such a unique experience that I can't say that it will ever be obsolete.
Edit: FYI, I like totk more than botw.
Big agree! I think both are a beautiful pairing.
yup. BOTW will always have atmosphere over TOTK. also better antagonist, lol. Calamity Ganon was way more memorable and imposing than Ganondorf.
@@carnage0685 I have to agree. They didn't manage to flesh out Ganondorf like they did the Calamity.
Most people in that world never even knew there was a Ganondorf causing problems, I don't think.
After the end of the Calamity, people were empowered by Zelda to rebuild and fight back, and in this sense, the surface of TotK belongs to BotW.
@@Aladato Yup. I mean, I like all the cutscenes with Ganondorf, he's powerful, cunning, and imposing, but that's only in the past. He just doesn't have the same presence that the Calamity had. The Divine Beasts could be seen from a mile away, and each of them, to me at least, kind of served as a reminder of the Champion who had been lost inside them. It wouldn't have meant anything if it weren't for the fact that they were all fleshed out pretty damn well. They were all likable characters, and because of Ganon they're all fucking dead and the machines they once piloted still run amok.
All of the affected regions felt like they were in a crisis- The only region that felt like it was in a crisis in TOTK was Lanayru, or more specifically Zora's Domain. The goop was legitimately threatening their lives.
There's also the fact that Malice was a lot more present in the overworld- It felt a lot more invasive than Gloom did.
Something I actually despise is how almost everyone these days is trying to downplay Calamity Ganon as a threat. "omg Ganondorf is so powerful, Calamity Ganon was just a fraction of his power!" when like, the only reason Ganondorf was able to break free was because of the destruction the most recent Calamity caused. Idk, I guess people just like to flock to the newest thing for the sake of it being new.
@@carnage0685I thought the rito area was pretty atmospheric. All these kids running around, and if you ask them what's going on they tell you their parents left to find food. I had chills when they slow dragon roost island theme played... to each their own though
I love botw and its vibe you could say, the loneliness and nature, just you and the souls of the champions. Meanwhile totk you are never alone, the sage summons, and the overall community. Note you see the sheer devistation, and totk is he rebuilding of that land.
Nah i prefer totk, that loneliness was pretty depressing, it’s quite fun how Link now has allies to really help him in combat.
At least Wolf link will accompany you.
You can always turn off the sage summons
I turn off the sages. F those ninjas.
Do you still like ToTK?
TOTK is objectively a better game in pretty much every way. But BOTW had the same essence SIX YEARS AGO. Everything about BOTW was so novel at a foundational level. TOTK took it and improved on it, but the first time experiences in BOTW will be ingrained in me for the rest of my life. When BOTW came out, I remember even journalists saying "this is the best game ever made, full stop." TOTK's biggest flaw is that it lacks the novelty BOTW had.
It's fun to think about that. When BOTW came out and for many years after, it held this "greatest game ever" status amongst a lot of people, but with TOTK, so much has been improved that it's hard to look at it in the same way. I love that they were able to carry this world so much further in what they were able to do with it. Also, it is a MIRACLE that this game even runs on that console!
You said it perfectly!
And that's not a bad thing. Nintendo doesn't try to completely outdo BotW, but rather to bring out a sequel to it. So people would still play both games
To me it felt like re-experiencing botw for the first time
Not every way. There are still things I consider better in BOTW eg: some sections of the map; music.
Also TOTL's novelties are the new areas, quests and that's about it
One thing that BotW does better than TotK that is never mentioned is the music that plays when activating a tower and unlocking a new part of the map. The BotW jingle that plays is the most beautiful 10 second segment of music I've heard in my life
That's fair. I do still get a bit teary-eyed when the sax or oboe part comes in during the activation of the skyview towers.
@@Jexonite Co-vid still around, Yes Breath of the Wild is still good, should maybe A Link to the Past knowing it is 30 years old.
That is the most true thing I have ever heard
Well, I will gladly give up that sweet music in exchange of the tedious tower climbing in Botw. Totk had the better towers discovery where you find them and that's it, no more boring meaningless climbing.
I knowwww the tower music is amazing I miss it
They removed the whippoorwill bird noises in ToTK, it was one of the first things that genuinely bothered me when I was playing. They added so much to the ambience at night, it was almost as iconic as the birds from OoT’s nighttime ambience. Somehow that alone made the world feel so much more empty.
I'm the complete opposite, I hated hearing whippoorwill bird noises every 3 seconds.
Tbh, altough I prefer the aesthetic of the old shrines, and the tests of strength over the proving grounds (cuz don't tell me they aren't parallels), I had a lot of fun while playing TotK shrines compared to my experience in the BotW shrines. Altough, I haven't played BotW NEARLY as much as I played TotK (respectively, I spent 50 and 200 hours on each), and got a lot more stuff on TotK, but overall I think the zonai abilities made for much creative and challenging shrines. Every time I found a way to cheese the shrine that was actually harder than the intended way (most of wich involved rewind and really good timing) I felt amazing, and I felt that much more often then when I did the same thing in BotW.
But yeah, the champion's abilities are ABSOLUTELY better
I think I just never got into the spirit of solving a TOTK shrine through unintended methods that took longer to execute than the "normal" way, but I'm sure it probably is very rewarding for those who chose to. I enjoyed those sorts of creative solutions more when exploring the open world instead.
@@Jexonite lemme tell you, there is NOTHING in this world that is as satisfying as pushing a block upward and using ascend on it while it is being reversed through time and falling on top of Link- or using a bomb or a rocket to skip over a shrine
It's a shame that we lost both the powers from the champions and almost EVERYTHING related to Sheikas; Zonai stuff is really cool, but I would've loved if we had the option to combine the two, not have one replace the other
Yeah, plus, all the towers and divine beasts just- vanished. And took kass with them. Lol. It’s so unnatural and sad. Woulda been cool to see parts of the old towers used to make structures, or being half torn down/dilapidated. Same with the divine beasts, so sad they just vanished into thin air.
It really hit me when I went back to the shrine of resurrection. Seeing that all that was left of it is some pond just made me feel so sad and empty inside, bc it felt like they were tryna erase botw
@@chisakiaiko6678 yeah.. but you can get a schema(?) stone for the botw motorbike from going into the area below the shrine, so that’s nice
I would argue that BotW is not obsolete because the TotK experience would not be nearly as good without playing BotW first. I would advise every new player to play BotW before TotK because I firmly believe that you couldn't truly appreciate TotK on the same level without playing BotW first. I loved this game because I loved seeing how the world changed
This makes sense, however playing botw first can act like a double-edged blade. I played botw first like many other people and when I played totk, I just felt ridiculously bored. everything felt mundane. EVERYTHING, even to ganondorf, and his flurry rushes, nothing surprised me somehow. This is probably because I already experienced what totk would of had to offer, in botw (in terms of atmosphere, and atmosphere is probably the biggest factor in how enjoyable a game is)
@blazinglions9554 that's a you problem I guess
@@o0ugi860 smh imagine contributing by saying an opinion, couldn't be me
@@therichman3685no it's true. The games are very different and have there on pros and cons. TotK is BOTW with new runes, 1 1/2 new areas to explore, and a shit ton of fetch quests. BoTW's runes created very stable, useful and satisfying glitches in game which made combat and traversal better than TotK. Those were the 2 things I enjoyed most about BOTW so when I figured out you couldn't even crouch cancel anymore it just took a lot of the fun away.
147 Bubbul Gems for one armor set (the sentimental aspect gives it all it's value outside of aesthetics), 157 shrines for another armor set that does the same thing as the last all shrine armor set, 120 Lightroot for a medal, horse armor locked behind stable visit system. And there's more but without the tedious filler content ToTK is pretty much just a bigger BoTW with new runes and less versatile and useful glitches. I have fun in both but ToTK takes a bit more effort and I only end up playing because I get bored in TotK
BOTW felt like a proof of concept demo for TOTK.
Agree that shrines in BotW and "sage" abilities are better. I'd add a few things:
1) I HATE WHAT THEY DID TO WEAPONS IN TOTK!!!!! I went back and replayed BotW right after finishing TotK, and the gameplay in BotW just felt more rewarding because enemies drop good weapons that get better the more you play. In TotK, it took forever for me to figure out how to get "pristine" weapons that I wanted, and even then, it was a horrible experience because it's RANDOM. In BotW, there are reliable respawn points for good weapons, not to mention that enemies drop the good stuff and the more you play the better that good stuff gets. So I was excitedly going to fight a half dozen Lynels EVERY SINGLE BLOOD MOON all the way until I'd finished everything except Ganon because I wanted to get a +20 attack Lynel sword. But in TotK, I avoided fighting as much as possible because I didn't want to break my weapons and then have to go searching through the horrid random system again. This single reason almost completely ruins TotK for me.
2) Towers were more challenging in BotW. There were a number of towers in BotW that I died repeatedly trying to figure out how to get to the top of, and it took a lot of careful planning to finally figure out how to do them.
3) The temples in BotW were better. Changing the rotation of the camel, the tilt of the giant bird, etc. - those were really interesting puzzles. The puzzles in the TotK temples just weren't that interesting.
At the beginning, I was wishing for Revali’s gale but now I think if I went back to BOTW I’d miss Tulin’s ability more because of the crazy mobility it gives you when you sort of half cancel it
also the cool down is so slow
Revali and Tulin need to team up to combine their abilities, creating a nice little whirlwind that allows Link to go just about wherever he wants!
Revali's gale isn't even needed anymore in totk because of the many machines you can build. Heck, even simply jumping froma single spring already replicates Revali's gale really well. I don't miss revali at all in totk.
@@dinoman6481 Okay there's just one small problem with your argument. And that's the fact that ToTK is a game where there are generally multiple ways to achieve the same thing, all of which have their pros and cons.
For example, if Revali's Gale returned to ToTK it would probably be free to use once unlocked - no resources needed. But at the cost of being on a cooldown timer so you wouldn't be able to use it all the time. Whereas a single spring, while it has no cooldown, would require you to have a spring in your inventory or you manage to find one out in the wild every time you want to use it.
If Revali's Gale returned to ToTK, it'd be mostly redundant and very situational at worst. At best, it'd be incredibly useful for specific circumstances or even work alongside other methods for even more effectiveness. Hell, I even made a joke that Revali and Tulin need to meet and combine their powers in an earlier reply.
Revali is made obsolete by rocket shields. That plus all the sky shrines made elevation rarely an issue.
The impact that Guardians have in BOTW is unmatched in TOTK. Gloom Hands and Gleeoks are kinda the counterpart to Guardians, but to me the level of stress and fear of running into a Guardian in BOTW doesn’t really happen in TOTK
botw’s atmosphere is just so much more likable. Calamity ganon might be a “bad villain” but the way it sets the atmosphere is so much better than any other game ive ever played
Man, you do such a FANTASTIC JOB with your vids. Thank you for poignantly articulating everything the ToTK does in comparison to its predecessor!
Thank you so much for watching and enjoying it! There was more I could've gone into more detail about but then this video would never come out.
I do LOVE TotK, but I really miss the new feeling. It doesn't feel... new. I have so many fond memories of just me playing BotW, discovering shrines, climbing towers, etc. I actually feel really sad looking back on those memories, knowing that I'll never experience the "newness" of BotW ever again. TotK helps with that a bit, but idk... it just... doesn't feel new enough.
Of course, the bosses and enemies were a cool addition and gave you a bit more to watch out for, but the overall terrain is just.. not new anymore. I already know where everything is.
I can understand that. But for me, there are some games, few and far between tho they may be, where I want to play a sequel or another version that uses the same graphics / engine as the first game. I loved Ocarina of Time so much that I hoped they made another Zelda game just like it (but advancing the story). Majora's Mask scratched that itch quite nicely for me. Not sure I'd call that game a sequel so much as an off-shoot. Great game non-the-less!
@@invictusunum4808 ah. Yeah
I wish I could experience the entire wind temple sequence again for the first time. The whole game is magic but that section in particular was breathtaking.
Same bro, it was my first one and the music, puzzles and everything jsut completely overwhelmed me. I really wish i could experience it again.
TOTK is a complete evolution of BOTW. One thing TOTK is missing is the Sheikah technology theme and Gaurdians which are my favorite enemy of all time. Ancient weapons, Ancient gear. TOTK will never fill that void. Plus the loneliness and quietness of BOTW gives it such a unique feel.
I do miss the old shrine quests like the ones Kass gave you. As much as I do enjoy the idea of the crystals, that’s all shrine quests really are now. If you scroll through all of your shrine quests, 90% of them will probably be crystal shrines
That’s exactly right, and a large portion of them are “Rauru’s Blessing” shrines. There are a few good ones, like the ones the constructs give you.
Yup. BOTW wins the Shrine Quests. TOTK improves on everything else though imo. But also the Fuse novelty can sort of get tedious. Some people might prefer Breath just for the normal weapons it offers.
If I want to fight big monsters or fly around then TotK all day but BotW is so quiet. If I want to just ride a horse around or sit looking at the landscape... BotW still has me there.
Here is how I would fix the sages' abilities:
Hold ZL for Sidon's Shield.
Shooting an Arrow for Riju's Lightning.
Yunubo is ZL + Hold A.
Tulin is already good.
Yeah
My version
Sidon's shield: ZL + down d-pad to activate, press Y to shoot water.
Riju: Press down on d-pad while aiming bow. Press B to cancel.
Yunobo: Hold ZL to activate, press ZR to fire, aim with right stick when not locked on to enemy.
Tulin: ZL, then hold A and then release. In the air, only press A for boost.
Riju's lightning could be a permanent item slot with her medallion you can attach to your arrow each time you need her ability
I miss Kass. And the old champions. I wish we’d have at least had some kinds of ruins of the divine beasts, like how the shrine of resurrection is all covered in vines and stuff.
Personally I like the vibes of BOTW more, but the vibes of a lost collapsed civilization is something I really like so I knew that TOTK couldn't do the same
Reading the comments a lot of people seem to agree which is cool so see
What you feared for "Breath of the Wild" is simply impossible, but what was removed for "Tears of the Kingdom" was a means of giving the new things a chance to shine.
They both kinda feel like 2 different games. I feel they are both unique in their own ways. One is more exploration based. One is more buildy buildy. Also, Pyper quest made me cry
They're very different games. While botw is an intuitive, elegant foray into open world gaming, totk takes that engine and makes it about activity and creativity. You don't relax on top of a Skyview Tower and admire the sunset. You have to be shot into the sky and carefully glide your way to a sky island.
One thing i kept thinking about when playing Tears of the Kingdom is how when finishing Breath of the Wild was "I wonder what will happen to Hyrule, and how will things evolve?" but now i somehow reached an end.
I know its a game, but i somehow now trust the characters that they will take care of the Hyrule Ive grown to love.
Usually I always ask myself "Ok but what happens now?" when playing games. Even my favourite games have me thinking that and thats fine, but with this one I’m somehow at peache in the best way possible just thinking "This is it and its perfect this way".
Well until Ganondorf returns lol
There was so many raurus blessing shrines.
True, but I do like how a lot of them were preceded by a task or a puzzle in the overworld. Kind of like a shrine outside of a shrine.
Something I noticed while playing TotK for a while, I eventually stopped completing the shrines as I found them. I would activate them so I'd have a fast travel point for later, but I rarely even bother going into the shrines to check to see what challenge it is. Just something about TotK's shrines as opposed to BotW's doesn't make me feel the compulsion to fully complete them
I feel like they are way too similair to the ones in botw. Some were really fun but some were really just a hassle to complete
BOTW has a serene and just relaxing sound design and ambiance that TOTK will never have.
And shouldn't have! You are playing a game, not a Hyrule simulator. Not dissing BotW, it was great at the time, but Totk just made the better experience out of it.
@@mohammadabuqubu7079 I never dissmist one or the other I just point out a big difference between the two.
The moment i realised that totk was a good game was actually at the start in the sky Islands. It gave me that Vibe and made me want to explore.
i miss my motorcycle man… ultrahand builds just ain’t the same! 😆
Going back and playing Breath of wild actually opens you up possibly for the first time how actually drastically different the two games are. Because of the similarities and perhaps because people haven't played breath of the wild in years they've forgotten how vastly different they are.
There is one good thing about the Blights. The Blight battles were *battles.* They were no-frills, “I attack you while you try to attack me” kinds of fights. TotK reverts back to the classic style of Zelda boss, making them like a living puzzle, “Look! Here’s my weak spot! Look!” kind of deal. Whichever approach is better is in the eye of the beholder.
I agree completely, but I also feel that traditional zelda battles were *battles* too. Whereas totk failed miserably with recreating that, making something worse then every zelda boss ever. The totk bosses felt mundane, and to be fair fighting even a normal gleeok feels miles more like a proper boss battle then the 4 main bosses could ever be
@@blazinglions9554 I don’t hate the TotK bosses, Colgera wasn’t meant to be difficult, it was intended to be the first dungeon boss and it was more focused on being cinematic, and it delivers on that front. Marbled Gohma is probably the weakest of the four imo, I actually like Mucktorock because it’s so weird and fun and charming in a way that not many Zelda bosses are, and Queen Gibdo was just all-round a pretty fun fight, especially in the second phase with all the Gibdos running around.
Colgera, queen gibdo
I think Nintendo was able to make this such a great sequels from being able to reuse the world and physics from Breath of the Wild, which gave them more time to work on the story and quests in Tears of the Kingdom
I don't know... I realise it probably sounds daft, but I kind of enjoyed some of the emptiness of BotW! It made it more chilled. I'd walk Link miles, find myself on the top of a mountain and just delight in the beauty of the sunset. It was, as you said, about exploring. TotK is always, constantly trying to give you something to do. You'll set out on a specific quest and end up doing 150 things before you get there, which obviously is fantastic from a gameplay/value for money perspective, but is not such a chilled experience. Some have said this game is harder though... I'm not sure about that side of it. It is certainly harder at first, but once you've got more hearts and mastered the abilities, I would say it's on par difficulty wise. Maybe BotW is slightly easier as there is less to do! Though you did have the guardians, don't miss those. Lol.
aaand I'm not crazy about the depths, forgot to mention that part. I personally don't really think they add anything much to the game, in fact you could probably complete the game without even bothering with it and I just don't find stumbling around in complete darkness that much fun myself. 🤷 But I'm not anti TotK, it is a better game in general overall, but I certainly don't think it makes its predecessor, or for that matter previous Zelda games obsolete.
Hopefully the next Zelda game will use the same engine and world, but with the ability to swim down in lakes and the ocean. I really believe the game is missing a few things... three of them are: swimming properly, fishing and petting the dogs in the stables.
I like the desolate and nostalgic feeling of botw
It feels more focused
One thing you haven't mentioned is the guardians. I missed them in totk.
I also felt more free in botw. No guided quest, no need to talk to everyone, no "bring this thing to there". Totk put bits of OOT into botw, for good reasons, but less feel of freedom.
As a Zelda's fan first I can tell you:
I can't play BoTW anymore because all the "faults" has vanished from Tears and all the good ideas are still there. I can't lie to you my friend, I thought that BoTW will be my last Zelda game because I really don't like it at all...but Tears saved me from that terrible fate.
really? honestly when I played totk nothing shocked or surprised me, the whole experience felt empty. Whereas in botw it felt like such a new experience, its hard to describe. the atmosphere in botw, learning how to play it. Totk can't compare at all to botw in this sense
@@blazinglions9554 Yes. I felt like something or many things was wrong in BoTW - new experiences, yes, but don't felt like a Zelda game in some aspects that give me mixed feelings. So, I really couldn't enjoy the game.
Although I would not call myself a Zelda fan, but I totally agree with you. I barely finished Botw main quests, while appreciating what it did yet I felt so bored and was irritated from many things like climbing, rain, writing down recipes, broken weapons that looked cool, walking or horse only traversal wasting precious time just aimlessly was....frustrating.
Totk saved the series for me, I can't get enough of it.
@@blazinglions9554You might be one of the biggest botw simps i have ever seen
The most frustrating yet rewarding part for me was, collecting the 7 spirit orbs. That last one was right in our faces, yet i headed west and about lost hours of my life trying to find it. Then, trying to knock out some wells for the wells quest, i stumble upon the missing man. That made me appreciate all my years of grinding out zelda games. Sometimes, you have to give up on a side quest, only to stumble upon the "key" later. Love it!
BotW is more chill and approachable. Not just due to the density of TotK, but also due to the looming danger of things like Gloom Hands or Evermean trees lurking around every corner. This, along with the heavier focus on action, result in the games being very different in tone. Like you said, they compliment each other well.
Idk though, I think the guardians were much more intimidating in breath of the wild
@@AT-vc3kz But guardians could be spotted from a distance and avoided, for the most part. Hands and trees are designed to pop up out of nowhere and surprise you.
As someone who just started playing BOTW for the first time after sinking 250 hours into TOTK, I honestly like BOTW as much if not more. It doesn't feel like the same game. Some basic mechanics were definitely improved on TOTK, but I dont feel like TOTK is the "objectively" better game so far. I think it's just nice to have something fresh when you've put so much time into one game. Definitely encourage anyone to play BOTW if they haven't.
Good video! While at first thought I would agree that the abilities of BotW didn't let you "break" the shrines, I saw another video kind of counter this. It allowed people to beat the shrine how they want. There were people that wanted to get it done quickly and do whatever they had to in order to complete it. Then you have purist, like myself, that tried to beat them the way they seem intended. So I am good with the way TotK did this. I DO agree that the look was better in BotW though.
After I played through and finished everything I wanted to do in TotK, it actually made me want to keep playing zelda. I had a trip coming up, and had still never played master mode in BotW, so I went and started that. Though I did spend like two days getting the master cycle as early as I easily could, just to make travel faster and more fun. It honestly elevated the experience of a second playthrough of BotW by 10.
The game was definitely easier to complete with all of the shrines done a second time round, and turning off the Sheikah sensor was the best choice I made by far. It was interesting to recognize npc's from TotK because that didn't really happen the other way around. And what you said really summarizes BotW. It's a lot of empty wandering between places, taking in the sights, but it really just keeps you moving. TotK makes you stay in one place for longer, which isn't a bad thing. They both have their place, but I don't think I'll be replaying BotW again, at least not any time soon.
I just wish I could have collected more green link outfits.
there's also massive mods that are like entire extra dlc packs *cough* *cough* second wind, for breath of the wild, theres also mods that entirely change the experience of the game for breath of the wild *cough* *cough* survival of the wild
So many moments in both games. I’m taking my time with TOTK, I don’t want to leave this world without giving it the respect that it deserves!
My favourite moment in tears was A) finding the frog armour and B) fighting my first boss and screaming about how awesome the game was afterwards. Both moments would have been ten times less impact full if not for botw.
The good things though is that there are substitutions in TotK. Like sure, we all miss the convenience of Revalis Gale but we now also have Rocket Shields that don’t need to recharge if you have enough materials.
Mipha's grace, you can obviously have a bunch of fairies and then eat (not as convenient though I know).
The Lightning armour set basically gives you Urbosa's fury if you charge your weapon. And that has no cooldown. You just need a weapon.
And I can’t remember what you can fuse to your shield to mimic Daruk's protection but there’s probably something.
totk is not easy to jump into as botw. The great sky island and great plateau we can argue are about the same experience - but while in botw you are loosely directed towards Kakariko, you have the means to go anywhere.
In totk, you are forced to do more investigative work around Lookout Landing before having access to essentials like the sail cloth.
On top of that, the excess of caves and wandering in the depths gets pretty stale very quickly because what you do down there is usually rinse and repeat (break boulders, break ore, get lightroot - No significant reward).
This is where it begins to feel hollow. My 2nd replay of totk was me just creating a hoverbike in most situations and just going over places in a mechanical fashion.
I've replayed botw at least 10 times and that's thanks to its tutorial where I'll gain all the powers I need to explore the world in the first hour or so. Without any "Zelda sightings" obnoxious quests and a bloat load of other quests which makes you feel like there is a lot to do... but it's all for nothing really.
Most of the sky portions in totk were also boring and time consuming. The zonai devices unnecessary to progress the game. And the disposable nature of crafted zonai machines also adds to the hollowness. (It definitely felt pointless after creating my first jeep and going into a shrine for 5 mins, and that thing disappears)
Also me at 3 am: ah let me get a dragon horn and then log off *the skydiving music*
The moment when I realized how good this good was when first jumped off from the great sky islands into the revamped kingdom oh Hyrule(I got so excited) also great video keep it up.👍
Thank you so much! Yeah, after the lengthy tutorial, I was elated once I was finally free to roam Hyrule at my leisure!
dude ur editing on this one made me laff several times, the minecraft cave sound over the cave header was a particular point of amusement. but sillies aside, i'm so happy to see this one come out! your quote about botws scarity against totks excess continues to SLAP
Theres a little thing for me that i just enjoyed alot of botw robotuc aesthetics
I honestly found the temples more repetitive than i wouldve hoped, in older zelda games each had a real theme, a mansion on a hill frozen over and abandoned, a execution sight, torture chamber etc. The temples in totk all were just, zonai with some things of their elements, except for wind trmple which they shouldve just called its name, stormwind ark.
As a long-time Zelda fan, I came into BOTW really late. Only about a year before TOTK launched, so the sheer awe of it is still pretty fresh in my mind. I tried going back to Skyward Sword after having beat when it came to the Switch, but in spite of it being my favorite Zelda game in terms of story, both control outputs can go f*ck themselves and I put it down. I'm replaying BOTW now and plan to get as close to 100% it as my sanity can take. Then I'll probably do a replay of TOTK. As much as I love the older games, the open-world aspect is my preferred version now.
I think that the fact Fuse is too strong but also too required will make BotW a better choice to return to.
The game giving you a tool to solve everything and letting you cheat everything through that same tool in casual use has consequences. You won't be able to escape the constant having to stop to fuse unless you choose to ignore the game.
At which point BotW is going to be better for you.
It almost makes me yearn for some type of Master Mode in TOTK, because I feel the progression curve was a bit too steep at a certain point.
honestly I have to agree with that take. The tears of the kingdom shrines had a few interesting and memorable one but I swear half of them took like 5 seconds max to complete, just in and out.
3:35 this is definitely one of the most common and logical criticisms of this game's ability system. Like *spoilers* mineru's makes sense as a button prompt because that's a mount, but the others... I just, maybe have yunobo do his "goro" goro thing when you hit the shield button and launch with a shield bash. Tulin's works fine as is. And then I guess Sidon would just come out when you shield, maybe while crouching? Idk, that would be for gamedevs to figure out. And obviously the lightning should activate when you start shooting your bow.
Maybe with an easy toggle menu by holding down a button.
I actually got Covid for the first time a couple days before Christmas 2021. I know it sounds awful, but it was probably one of my favorite Christmases to date. I love having Christmas at my house (I ALWAYS go somewhere else), and I made the most of it. It was awesome! I hope I get Covid this Christmas too! (Also I got 2 weeks off of school)
Honestly I like the divine beasts not as good as normal dungeons but they just just are creative I guess
honesty divine beasts > totk dungeons. the totk dungenons felt like forced recreations of traditional zelda dungeons, but they failed it. whereas because the botw divine beasts were so unique and new, you could tell more passion and devotion wen t into them
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@@blazinglions9554 personally, i feel the opposite. BotW's divine beasts are fun the first time you go into one, but eventually they start to feel too predictable and boring. They all look and feel too similar imo, and the blights are repetitive (besides thunderblight of course). When playing TotK's dungeons, they felt magical to me. Each one felt different and unique with new puzzles to solve and a cool bossfight. I wouldn't know how they feel compared to traditional dungeons because BotW was my first Zelda game. I respect your opinion though
@@blazinglions9554The problem is the Divine Beasts are an awesome concept, but such a concept would be a singular dungeon (maybe two) in a Zelda game with several other styles of dungeons like a gauntlet style or more lock and key based. When they're all the main sources of meat for the game, they get quite bland, and all of them could've been pushed to a greater potential.
Plus, if they were going to be truly successful, they'd force you to explore the whole thing with various challenges before you're even allowed to unlock the beast control from the map terminal.
The Tears dungeons also fail at this, despite having unique aesthetics. The game can be as free as you want, but the dungeons are supposed to be restricted testing grounds to see if you've actually mastered the game or not.
dude the colgera music is just PERFECT! its amazing
BotW felt like an adventure.
TotK feels like the British Museum.
0:48 i totally agree with the shrines, after going trough a few i was like... damn... are these shorter than in botw??
Which I think is cool! I personally just want the blessing at the end so I can be stronger
my least favorite parts of TOTK were the dungeons, specifically the fire one. The other dungeons I just didn't really like in general, but the fire dungeon had some of the most confusing, convoluted "puzzles" i've ever seen in a dungeon. Like, how was i supposed to know there was a rock in the ceiling that I had to build a ramp to destroy that would drop a block that I have to use recall on to get up? How the hell was i ever supposed to find that???
I played some BotW yesterday, and it was a great relief to know I would not have to spend an immense amount of time stumbling about in the dark depths looking for stuff I didn't really want to find, while the ghost sages get in the way.
So you didn’t like ToTK?
@@weisenbergphoto I didn't like the Depths in particular.
Once I'd done the initial required exploration to the first lightroot and found the first abandoned mine, 90% of the rest of it was just a slog. It was just far too big and repetitive to be enjoyable for me, and more and more I found myself just flying through the dark on a zonite fan-bike to reach a light root, hopefully not crashing on the way, turn it on, and then do it again.
@@ziploc2000 but aside from the Depths, you liked the game?
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I didnt even realize there were no caves in BOTW until this recent play-thru😂😂
Another TOTK thank u😂
Everyone out of the way. I am about to drop kick this man. 0:08
My theory is that bubbulfrogs are blupees in the throes of being corrupted by Ganon. You're saving them from a worse fate.
I love TOTK, but there are some things I like better about BOTW. The design of the shrines, for one, and the cut scenes when you complete them with the yogi like Shieka elders. I just think it’s way cooler and mystical. I also like the towers better, and the puzzles of making it to the top of them. I like how the shrines are more hidden and not obvious, just a small speck of orange in the distance. Same with the towers… I think the spotlight thing is too obvious.
I saw a video where a guy talked about how the core feeling of each game is different. BOTW takes place in a broken hyrule with a tone of failure, grief and mourning. While TOTK is in a healing state and has a much more hopeful tone and drive. That feeling of the people of hyrule rebuilding is less impactful without the tone of BOTW. Although people say BOTW had less story than TOTK, the sadness of BOTW hit a lot harder than the sadness in TOTK did for me.
This is my top 10 all time:
#10 A Link To The Past
#9 Link’s Awakening
#8 Minish Cap
#7 Twilight Princess
#6 TOTK
#5 A Link Between Worlds
#4 BOTW
#3 Majora’s Mask
#2 WindWaker
#1 Ocarina of Time
TOTK is a great game but the 5 games ahead of it will be more memorable as time progresses forward. They all felt masterfully crafted and balanced and feels more like a complete Zelda experience. OoT, WW, and MM are considered the Holy Trinity of the franchise.
Breath is the Two Towers, Tears is the Return of the King.
The next game might be the Fellowship of the Ring.
Thanks for the amazing video, you managed to pick me up for the entire length of it. The way you talk about both games really moved me.
I'm about to start TOtK, just finished BOtW and I'm HYPED! THANKS!
Wow I could not disagree more about the Shrines. I thought they were WAY better, creative & fun in TOTK.
I do agree with ya about how the Sage abilities are used tho. That has messed me up so so many times, having them activate when you didn't want them to.
"Finding a cave in Tears of the Kingdom is like finding a kinder suprise in your lunch box"
me, an American: So I hide them from the cops?
Great video!!! I do think the shrines and the "dungeons" in breath of the wild were both equally harder to cheese and therefore got my braincells working 10x more, BUT I just.... the way the atmosphere, soundtrack and MUCKTOROK (I mean what a goofy ahh boss, no way you can hate it), just came together so perfectly that, yeah, it just evoked feelings of fullness and satisfaction every time something was checked off the to-do list! I WILL 100% this game
I put this video on to see if you shared my critique of sage abilities vs champion abilities and was not disappointed. Beyond the conceptual side of it being your ability vs their ability, the champion abilities are easier to use and better integrated into how you play while the sage abilities give me headaches every time I try to pick up loot only to have Tulin or Yunobo walk up then activate & fire off their ability. Then when you do want to use them you have to chase them around half the time to get it.
I didn’t play botw to the end, don’t even know if I’d fought any of the blights
But I didn’t really enjoy any of the bosses in totk, when I think back at fighting the bosses, I just don’t care for any of it
If I were to rate the dungeon *preambles/Buildup* for both, from *worst to best*
Vah Ruta, Vah Rudania, Water Temple, Vah Medoh, Vah Naboris, Fire Temple, Wind Temple, Lightning Temple
But honestly, I can’t say I really liked any of the dungeons themselves, I honestly thing I’d enjoy the divine beasts more
Can we talk about the Guardians? I mean it makes sense that Hyrule ditched the Guardian technology after they served as Ganon's troyan horse and committed genocide on Hyrule 100 years ago. And so we see only very few of said technology in Totk (Purah used the techbologylike for the arms within the skyview towers). But seeing basically no references to Guardians whatsoever is saddening considering the giant impact they had in Botw.
It can't be understated how terrifying a Guardian Stalker was that spotted you. I legit didn't even know you could fight them back until in Trial of the Sword 3 where you had to fight all Guardian typss in a room to proceed
I've been replaying BOTW with a couple of mods (nothing gameplay changing) and I gotta say it still holds up. I spent about 50 hours just exploring without touching the divine beasts and it's been fun so far. I kind of rushed the main story on my first playthrough and never appreciated the random overworld puzzles like the island that is completely dark or the mazes etc. but they are just as fun as in TOTK
Both games are obviously very similar and share the same map but they filled it with completely different stuff. I do appreciate the ability to pretty much fly everywhere in TOTK and in BOTW I remember not being a fan of running around and getting stuck on mountains but that hasn't been anywhere near as big of an issue on this BOTW playthrough
At first I thought so. TotK feels better in nearly every way imo. But after sitting on it a while, I no longer think so. While I’ve yet to test it by replaying BotW and while I still prefer TotK quite a lot, I think BotW and TotK have VERY different atmospheres. BotW feels far more lonely and massive, with less characters and less fast movement options. It forces you to engage in the world and enjoy the quiet melancholy of an ancient civilization
Having put.... umm... lets say "many" hours into both games, I started playing BOTW from the beginning again the other day; that opening scene when you leave the shrine of resurrection to an orchestral swell while the title is revealed and you get a panoramic shot of the plateau and points beyond still hits even though I've already thoroughly explored Hyrule (as well as the sky islands & depths in TOTK). TOTK did one-up it though, they bookended the game with a similar orchestral swell, sense of wonder & emotional pull.
Rivalis gale can be simulated with a rocket shield (or a spring placed on the ground); I do miss Urbosas fury though, one of the most satisfying AOE attacks.
TOTK was designed for the switch hardware, where BOTW was designed for the Wii U hardware and it shows. Both games are peak utilization for their hardware, with TOTK having the leg up of better hardware, but both games have exceptionally good story writing and gameplay mechanics that are independent of the hardware; that is why Switch continues to sell really well even though it's hardware is inferior to the competition - the story writing and gameplay of their first party games is simply unmatched on other systems.
When I fought the Colgera in the air temple for the first time I ran out of arrows in the second phase; I remembered that earlier in the game (and while in the temple itself) stepping on ice would make it crack and eventually break, so I took a chance by diving through it's back panels when they were exposed, and sure enough, I got to finish the fight without arrows; it's one of the things I love about the game, there are multiple ways to achieve a goal; I deliberately try not to "cheese" the game though, as I enjoy the challenge certain enemies bring.... Lynels are still the toughest enemy in my opinion, they are a combination of hard-hitting & tanky while being agile, and have an AOE close range attack to prevent you from just hiding under them and wailing away (like I do to Moblins).
I have played LOZ games since NES, I missed Majoras Mask through Skyward sword, so I'm playing catch up on those titles (played links awakening a bit back, currently playing skyward sword, also picked up a copy of twilight princess FOR THE Wii!!! that is on deck next; I'm trying to figure out how to play Windwaker without buying a game cube copy & controller for my Wii because they are going for stupid money currently).
I liked all the temples. but the fire temple can burn in hell, that place was a mess to explore and do
Tulin helps a lot in fire temple. And auto build. And deciding the mine carts suck and using all your other movement instead.
Yep, I couldn't be bothered to figure out the mess of mine cart tracks. I feel zero regret for cheesing it with my hover bike
I think I too cheesed it at one point, but I actually quite enjoyed that temple.
Yeah I completely cheesed the fire temple, it would've taken me hours to do it normally. However, I liked the atmosphere of the fire temple
tbh i think that revali's champion skill is kinda redundant in totk, mainly because there's so many ways to get up vertically now. rocket shields, ascend, over-engineered zonai launchers, etc.
but him himself? definitely miss that dilf
Even though it's not that old, Breath of the Wild has that nostalgia value to it that ToTK may never have. I made so many memories playing that game, like getting my first Boko club and then completing the game for the first time. Breath of the Wild holds a special place in my heart, it's hard putting something on top of it.
Most Boss fights in TOTK where a walk in the park, i had a harder time with the Blights tbh but that could be because that was also the first time exploring/learning the game
I am finding the sages annoying in TotK, they're in your way when you don't want them, and you have to chase after them when you do want them.
I'm constantly turning different ones on or off situationally, and that requirement breaks the immersion.
You can go back to botw, i just did, you only have to mod it and then its fun. Best mods are : Zelda's Ballad, Zelda's Ballad dialogue and cutcsene audio fix, girly animations pack and why not the short hair hood mod wich replaces the hairstyle she has in botw with the one she has in totk.
Getting close to the end of ToTK and aside from the fuse/building mechanics, it feels very much like a reskin of BoTW. I had just assumed there would be more things different about Tears as compared to Breath. If there is another follow-on that is just as formulaic, I may not jump on it right at release day. These are very enjoyable games but I have a few gripes about them having now essentially played through both.
The grinding for materials as well as the weapons breaking is tedious and in my opinion doesn't add anything to the game. Thankfully I didn't update the software for Tears and could do the drop-repro glitch for materials and zonai devices. The need to excessively farm doesn't make a game good. The broken weapons mechanic wouldn't be as bad if they lasted longer before they broke, and were easier to repair. I also thought Tears went crazy on the amount of content with the added underworld, NPCs and side quests -- it got to the point where I was just tired of it all. Gathering the kurok seeds is pretty tedious as well -- just to get a decent number of slots for weapons/armor.
In the pro's column, I loved the shrine puzzles and navigating the sky island realm was great. The fuse and device-building concept was wild but once again upgrading the battery so it lasted long enough was annoying without duplication glitches.
8:06 Yes, I completely understand that part. Gives me goosebumps every time😂👍
No, Totk does not do everything better.
Botw is the real open world. That world was created to traverse by walking, running and climbing. It wasn't created to use vehicles and it shows: since some vehicles are highly effective in traversing distances, they had to limit them in other ways... annoying ways. I still prefer horses to vehicles, since I can go in a shrine, go a major distance or even save-reload my game and my horse will still be there. That's not the case with vehicles.
Botw had the correct size. It was a huge world, but it was manageable. Totk is the same world + depths + some sky islands. Is way too much content that ironically produces an overwhelming effect on the player.
Sure, totk is now "more fun"... but have you ever thought about what they give to make it more fun? They knew they would be using the same world as a base, so the fun of exploration is gone. So they focused instead on making fun mechanics and allowing us to "break" things a little more. And while I admit it does make for a highly fun game, they still ended taking away the very main and core concept of the Zelda franchise: the exploration.
They tried to fix it with depths and sky islands, but those were not enough to remove the feeling that you are in fact exploring - again - the same old world.
So please, let's appreaciate the og a little more!
I love Botw and I love Totk. The first experience with Botw was incredible and it is one of the best games ever released. BUT because of Totk, which is better than its predecessor in every way, I think it's really outdated now. If I had to recommend one of the two to someone, it would always be Totk.
Did anyone else notice how many raurus blessing shrines there are its honestly sick
i agree
ive played totk for about 20-30 hours and still havent completed all the 4 regional phenomena or all that many quests lol so i probably havent done the super fun things yet. But so far my favourite part so far was probably doing the goron death mountain boss thing.. flying around launching a cannonball at this 3 headed mountain sized monster was so fun to me.
the guardian part of the video had my blood pumping out of my chest and i wasn't even the one playing thank BOTW for giving me unmeasured ptsd
I think BOTW is better in almost every way, the the mechanics on TOTK is so complicated and stupid, not saying TOTK is a bad game, but it's very inferior to BOTW.
One of the most disappointing things about TOTK, it''s the exploration, the map feel so empty, the map was specifically made for BOTW, so you had some really cool missions to find, like the dragon stuck on the moutain, or terrey town, or even the satori moutain, or Kilton, on TOTK you don't find ANYTHING memorable, it's just a bunch of NPCs asking for favors, the caves are also so disapointing, there is nothing there, just rocks, or maybe a shrine.
The koroks were these little fun challenge puzzles on BOTW, on TOTK you have to stop your progress to buid something to give a ride for the korok, and THAT'S NOT FUN, THAT BORING, the memories was also these interesting mission on BOTW, that kinda fit to the story, you had on picture, and you actually had to explore to find it, on TOTK "here a point on the map, just go there".
The shrines as you mentioned, it was also better on BOTW, because they were actually puzzles, on TOTK is like, "just get to the end", itt feels more like a platform game than a puzzle.
Also in BOTW you had these places specifically made for shrines, like the two ring region or Master of the Wind Quest region, they all serve a pupose, now on TOTK they are still there, but now they are just rocks, the map does not feel like is important anymore.
Btw, the bosses are better in BOTW, on TOTK, the bosses just stand there waiting for you to attack them, they don't do anything, they just trow tornados at you, come on, be honest, they are easy and boring, on BOTW they actually attack you, they had some really cool attacks and you had to think fast about what you had to do, in terms of gameplay, BOTW bosses are A LOT better, on TOTK you also have more of a "right way" to fight the bosses, on BOTW you just fight with whatever you want.
the deaphs are also so terrible in this game, there is literally 3 missions on that entire map, the rest is just a bunch of copy and past content, come on, TOTK also there is no enemies variety as you mention, they re use the same enemies from BOTW, and the new one gets old pretty fast, BOTW also had the same problema, but at least in the first hours of the game you got supreized by some enemies like the mouduga, or a lynel, on TOTK the only enemie tha suprized me was the dragon, and even that gets old pretty fast.
Anyway, I like TOTK, but I don't know, I honestly can't see the "emprovements" that people talk about on TOTK, everything is a worse version of what BOTW did.
They made Gmod inside Zelda. So yes as much as fun that is, it gives you way too much flexibility to "cheat" a puzzle
During The development of TOTK, Nintendo intended for the game to be newcomer friendly, to be friendly for people who haven't played BOTW yet
That's still a poor excuse for many shortcuts they've given because Nintendo has always catered to new gamers each Zelda game. A good game should properly have you master it across the whole playthrough.
I dunno, I didn't get burnt out playing breath of the wild. I always came back for more. TotK burned me out so hard, it wasn't quickly, but it was hard as hell with the burnout
I miss the guardians.
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