Fixing Crimes in Spider-Man 2
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- With an open world lacking diverse crimes and events, there isn't much to come back to in Spider-Man 2... so I thought of ways to improve the open world for the next game.
Let me know what you think!
Copyright: Sony, Marvel, Insomniac Games
Thanks to IGN, Anonymous Affection, and the short film 'Mr. Indifferent' by Aryasb Feiz for the use of some clips.
Anonymous Affection: @AnonymousAffection
Colin: @C0LIN.
Dark Space: @DarkSpaceStudios
00:00 Intro
03:07 The Current State of Spider-Man 2
07:17 Crime Improvements
09:19 Quick Crimes
11:41 Small Accidents
13:33 Urgent Accidents
16:50 Timed Events
18:23 Special Events
20:02 More Mechanics
21:04 Conclusion
#spiderman #spiderman2ps5 #ps5 #gaming
Not having jetski or boat chase crimes like in the lizard mission was kind of a missed opportunity, wouldve spiced things up a little.
I miss the first game, because almost every mission in the main story branched off into a Side Mission or random open world activity
Fr and the helicopter missions
@@ccelite3782the first game was made with more passionate
@@MegasXRLI can definitely feel that. I’ve replayed the first game six-seven times. I couldn’t stomach replaying Spider-Man 2. I felt so bored and drained sitting through the game a second time.
@@meewm33I need Spider-Man 3 to be the best Spider-Man game ever after spiderman 2.
There's another crime you missed: the yellow chest trap. Hunters put out a yellow chest and ambush you.
To be fair, it is pretty rare. I got this game on day 1 and only encountered it once.
I wouldn't be surprised if people didn't know it existed.
@@nofacedgoldfish6216yellow chest trap?
@@TheRealRip-Tide You can find a yellow tech chest on a roof with hunters hiding behind their camouflage shield.
@@nofacedgoldfish6216damm yeah haven’t got that one
@@nofacedgoldfish6216do you remember which location they first ambushed you at?
Heres my ideas
1.Saving people from burning building
2.Helicopter chase
3. Some mf hijack a bus
4. Literally saving a kitten from a tree
5. Pizza delivery
6. Deadlock situations (like tasm 2 game)
7. having to chase a purse snatcher into the subway before he gets on a train and gets away
8. Criminal hideouts in subways, sewers, or abandoned buildings
9. Helping old lady cross the street
10. Retrieving kids balloon
The fact that none of the Insomniac Spider-Man games have a pizza mission is criminal
Yeah those would be dope
That variety would be lit. Stuff from big to small. Man send this idea in lol
Too much effort for Insomniac lol
Ill also add that itd be better if these side missions didnt just have quick time events. To make it feel less linear
Ultimate Spider-Man had a rare crime where Shocker and Boomerang could be fought in the open world. It sucks no developer after that has tried to replicate supervillain activity in the open world. Seriously not every fight with a super villain needs to be a part of the bigger story.
exactly nd now we prob won’t ever get that cause they killed off half the rogue gallery
Dang i dont remember that
They killed off 90% of the villains from the first game, all but one off camera. Game was rushed asf
@@seliteguitarist3664 thats not even it being rushed...that was just a SH!TTY story decision used to build CHEAP tension that didnt even last 2 seconds😐🤦♂️
@@no.1spidey-fan182facts lol
why are y’all killing off everybody lmao this isn’t the raimi series
It also sucks that the residential areas in the game seem to have no smaller-scale crimes like vandalism or breaking and entering. It would be hilarious for Spidey to tell some neighborhood kids off for spray painting something
like bro this map is so huge but feels so lifeless
@amirigio 100% a valid criticism that I agree with. It’s a great game, but not as great as it could have been. I think it should have just been delayed till spring 2024 tbh
@@KTLaughteragreed
Yes bro! every time I'm in the neighborhood in Queens I wish there would be like a breaking and entering attempt on one of the smaller houses but nothing, they should really add some smaller scale crimes in Pete's neighborhood also Coney Island never has any crimes, that would be a good place for the save a balloon one
It’s spider man not police simulator
I think it would be cool if there was a rare crime where one of Spider-Man's villains broke out of the Raft. Spider-Man would have to track them down, there'll be a boss fight with them, and then he'll send them back to the Raft.
That sounds cool, idk if it would eventually get annoying or not but it would be a cool way of turning Spider-Man’s classic villain of the week shtick into a game mechanic.
They would hav to pick an obscure one, since a lot of them are dead
@@Megakiller538 True
@Megakiller538 But I'd love something like that! A downtown chase with Slide, Speed Demon or Big Wheel? Stopping Hyrdo Man from flooding Queens? Maybe taking down enough thugs of a certain type could lead to a battle with Silvermane?
@@brycebitetti1402 yeah because the lesser known villains never get enough attention
Random event that could occur while swinging is a civilian calling out to Spiderman to simply ask for a selfie
that was in the first game as a side mission
@@mtndewcrew that was Miles Morales actually
no@@blueblitz283
@@blueblitz283no it was in the first game
If you walk around instead of swinging you can interact with pedestrians and they will sometimes ask for a selfie, high five or handshake
This is something that i loved about Miles Morales' game and why i rank it above Spider Man 2018. All the side missions, feel like something spider man would help out with, finding lost toys, helping a crane worker, helping a building cleaner, helping a car out of the snow, and the crimes were even better, you could help an enemy in a rogue copter, finding enemys who are messing with a board. Plus the pacing in that game is so good.
Nah 2018 is the throat goat
@@drekiskrek5008His opinion
In the ultimate Spider-Man game yes
Well technically they only did that cause it was just miles learning what it meant to be Spider-Man I don’t see why that would rank it above 2018 Spider-Man’s game. Where Peter is already 23 and a veteran
@@jalen_the_only1390 Well it's his opinion, and in my opinion, Miles has the better gameplay
I have an idea, a division from big crimes and small neighborhood activities.
Spidey uses the police scanner for bigger crimes like shootouts and armored vehicles.
While the neighborhood app is used for smaller events like in miles morales. For example, helping an a car stuck in ditch.
No u mean in ultimate Spider-Man
Unfortunately some game articles called Marvel's Spider-man 1 pro-cop and copaganda. And Insomniac had to respond to that. Which is why there's no more cops responding to the crime alerts, or just fewer cops in general.
I’d like as you said lower crimes like purse snatching, but does anyone remember in the first game how random npcs from Fisks gang or corrupted students would jump you when you weren’t swinging? I’d love if that was implemented as somebody robbing a store/person and you have to chase them before they escape like the crimes where you had to stop them.
Fr like an occasional Fisk agent or like a random side mission u just randomly find
I like how, despite being a negative video, he doesn't rage or yell about how everything in the game is trash and he just focuses on one problem.
Was sorta mentioned here, but why not just have random races with the other Spider-Man? While swinging, your character will point out either Peter or Miles hanging around nearby, and if you perch next to them, you challenge them to a race to a certain point in the map. It's low stakes, but you can add it pretty much anywhere on the map and lets you interact with the other spidey outside of just crimes. Maybe during the story theres a rare event where you couldve challenged Harry to a race when he had the symbiote
With the new traversal system, speed limit and webwings it's a no brainer. I found myself replaying the drone chases in Miles Morales
@@GRUZZLY8in ultimate Spider-Man stop calling it thar
@@hotmcfly9247it's called miles morales there's already an ultimate Spider-Man game
Everybody hyped up having 2 spider-men as if it would be like GTA V but there is only ever 1 Spider-Man on the map unless there is a crime happening and you can’t interact in the open world. No races, no little talks, can’t see them just out and about maybe in their civilian clothing, no swinging alongside each other except for literally only 2 missions. Insomniac absolutely dropped the ball with this game
Big facts bro
Absolutely true. You cant even encounter Peter in the open world at all if you're playing as Miles. Theres actually not a single part in the game where you fight alongside Peter. Plus i was expecting Tombstone and Mysterio to fight alongside in the open world.
I commented on a tik tok about how I liked the game but like the first one it misses a lot of oppurtunities. And some guy replied saying I should be grateful 😭 like bro is the reason we won’t ever get good game features
Fr. There aren’t any post game/non-story essential phone calls like there were in Miles Morales, Peter and Miles are only together for the beginning and endings, and there aren’t any activities for Peter to do nor are there like team activities (ie racing) for both Spider-Men to do. I appreciate storytelling but it can’t be the only selling point of a game. GTA has a good story but it also has a bunch of activities you can do.
you can't even switch characters in missions like GTA, I wanted this feature so bad...
Lesser-villain subplots. Series of villain themed crimes that build to a one off boss fight with some wacky back-catalog villain.
Boomerang would be good
big wheel 🔥🔥
I know it's probably just an example, but finding howard's pigeons and bringing them back home isn't possible anymore, because howard died in this game, and peter set his pigeons free. As for the car chases: It'd be cool to see insomniac use the adaptive triggers on the dualsense controller, maybe to pull the tires out from under the car or something to make it stop
the pigeons still work, youd have to catch them but ur not returning them to howard ur returning them to their new home
I actually love a lot of these ideas for random crimes and events. Especially the balloon idea like imagine every time you return a balloon there’s a small cutscene where Spider-Man signs the balloon or draws something on it. And there could be a few different designs and words he could draw on there each encounter.
What if after a certain amount of “balloon rescues “the city throws you a festival of ballons where people just let go of a lot of balloons so for a few hours in game the sky could be filled with colors
Something I personally wish the games included is non-Spider-Man activities. Taking examples from my favourite games.
GTA San Andreas would let you play basketball in a basketball court if you interacted with a ball. Yakuza games allowed the characters to go out and do Karaoke or play Shogi. San Andreas also had a dance floor that you could go to and dance. Some thing else I wish the developers added is multiple crimes happening at the same time with a time limit but you've mentioned that already. It'd be nice to see Spider-Men do non-Spider-Man stuff to pass the time when they're not saving the world and are just on patrol. Interacting with civillians would also be fun aside from a simple emote or a high five there could be more things to do with civilians like taking selfies with them. The game has two school buildings available to it I'm surprised they haven't had tiny events like stoping bullying or anything like that. Great video!
The original Spider Man 2 on PS2 had a ton of these side activities that were still fit for Spiderman gameplay that just are still fun to do even 20 years later.
Challenge Races, Delivering Pizzas, Practicing gameplay mechanics in the Arcade, Taking Photos for the Daily Bugle, Making a date with MJ before time runs out, and even an unlockable combat arena with three different varieties PLUS an unlockable superboss.
20 years later and PS2 Spider Man just still has so much more content than any other Spider Man game ever could dream of
@@cloudshines812 That's true
Part of this is already in the game although it's EXTREMELY rare, you get to participate in yoga if it takes place at a specific spot, you also get to web a guy's keys who he lost in a sewer drain
And like the first 2 games you can interact with civilians they'll give a handshake or a hug or a selfie
@@cloudshines812ain’t no original of Spider-Man 2 u good lol
I've always wanted children interactions that either freak out over seeing Spider-Man, or him playing with children that pretend to be a bad guy or another Spider-Man
I don’t know if other people experienced this, but once or twice I saw the rare loot chests and went to them. Once I tried to open them I got jumped by the hunters. It could’ve been a bug or something but it made me wish that it was an actual crime
That happend to me too, It was a trap set by Them.
Is this new? Because I barely found this a few days ago and I've olayed this game a lot.
@@rufus5208 i wouldent say that, i did play it fore 38 hours, and only found it once, and i Think it was like 2 mounts ago.
@@rufus5208nope its been there since release it only happens once i think
Imagine Having to stop a Prison break at Rykers or Raft as a crime activity
Be dope if we get a crime update and suit tech or new moves
I miss the abilities from the first game like Web Blossom, and Peter’s Quips
@@TruBloodGaming same especially the quips
@@NIIJIX I used to use the quips when I was perched on something near the criminals
Peter's quips were so good in the first game that he had a whole ability for it, in SM2 he makes knuckle sandwich jokes
This video has really opened my eyes to exactly what's missing from Spider-Man 2. I hadn't really thought much about these little things before, but that richness that gets you immersed is seriously exactly what this game is missing.
Blows my mind how much of a step back this game took. The best thing about this game was the web swinging
could not agree more
Makes me wonder wtf they were cooking up for 5 years
@@DOWNTOWNMAK You clearly missed all details this game features.
@@mohdsalmand1385fuck all the details bro. Where are all the side missions and crime at?
@@mohdsalmand1385 what details? Outside of web swinging, the game plays virtually the same, and is sometimes worse than its predecessors
18:57 - To be fair, Kraven's hunters' reputation was already ruined when a Journalist with a stun gun and 2 weeks of training was able to clear out their new jersey Zoo base Lol.
Anyway building on top of the hunters hunting Spider-Man idea, I'm going to do what the insomniac Spider-Man fanbase refuses to due out of either cope or denial, I'm going look back on what previous (previous as in before Insomniac) Spider-Man games did better.
In the Amazing Spider-Man 2 game (stay with me please, I have a point) there was a type of Morality system, where you would be considered a hero or a menace, and if you were at any menace level the taskforce that Oscorp set up would start bringing in obstacles like wall mounted turrets, have barricades to impede your web swinging, and even have their drones called spider-slayers chase and track you, And I feel like the hunters should've been doing something like that.
Like while Web swinging a group of hunters would throw one of those electric nets in the area and you'd have to doge it. Stuff like that.
I'm gonna stop before I repeat you. (I probably already did....)
Marvel spiderman 2 is just a much better amazing spideman 2 however there are things tasm 2 did better
The morality system was awful to support your point. But to support your point, every single decision about the open world in web of shadows trumps anything that this game tries to do in its third act. This game was rushed and their design philosophy is the golden mission path only, they do not care at all about the open world because they probably analyse how it doesn’t affect sales
right @@bruhmoment1761
this is a crazy take cuz the crime and morality system sucked in that game..
@@Wertyberthe crimes were good
Damn. You cooked with the crime notification variation idea.
Insomniac needs to hire this man immediately! I want to see these crimes in the game
Really cool video, I didnt know the past games had such varied crimes, they should really add them especially the train accident
Thanks for linking Darkspace and Colin in the description, makes it easy to find their videos as well
All of those are really good suggestions. The one addition I'd add is what I call "random supervillian boss-fight". Basically, when swinging around, there'd be a rare chance (say, every 1 in 200 or so crimes) for a C-Tier supervillain to show up - The Riot Symbiote appears and is trying to create a Symbiote hive, so you've got to take him down, or Big Wheel is tearing through the streets after committing a bankheist, or you've gotta stop Jack 'O' Lantern flying about. Or, occasionally, you could be ambushed by a boss Spider-Slayer and have to boss fight that, similiar to the Taskmaster fights from the first game. Most of your crimes are going to be petty theft, helping a guy get to his job interview and saving folks from a burning building, but the odd rare bossfights would really help to spice things up, I think.
These are all fantastic crime ideas, I didn't even realize the issue with the current ones until this video. Hopefully Insomniac can add some if not all of these to future game updates or the next title in the series
love small channels like these great vid
I agree with Everything on this video 10/10. As far as personal ideas, here some:
•Web Shooters customisation: collectables lets you customise web shooters, improving the stats. Every type of enemy can now be webbed up with 2 shots, regardless of their size, and they stayed webbed up for double the time when web shooters are maxed out in upgrades. Also, "select web shot sound". Noticed how the web shooters sound much cooler in Stealth? You can now set the standard sound, in the gadget menu. Last but not least, you can increase the web shooters capacity and refill ratio to double the end game amount.
•Custom Gadget Slots: All the Gadget from previous games are back, you can now assign them to each slot, mixing old and new gadgets.
•Pro Swinging Mode : web swing with L2(left arm) for Buildings on your left, R2(Right Arm) for Buildings on your right. ( Maintain the current Web Swinging mechanic, + give players the choice to try "Pro Mode". Aiming swaps to L1, and slow motion Is disabled While aiming and shooting webs with R1 mid air. This allows the player to Aim and use the abilities with 1 button, increases realism and player immersion.
•Parry Style : Bare Hands/Spider Arms/Symbiote.
•Spider Arms:Enable/Disable
•Web Climbing: While web swinging, i noticed the 🔲 button Is empty, as Pete/Miles are hanging on the web. I was thinking maybe we can bring back the "web climbing" animation during the swing. Simply put, you Jump from a Building, Press R2 to shoot a web, and as you hold R2 to hang on the web you can Also hold 🔲 to climb up the web and avoid hitting the ground.🙏🏻🕸️
•Suit Addition by personal favorite: Classic Red&Blue from the 90's animated series
More Ideas on my Instagram, feel free to use them, i don't care about credits, all i want is to help insomniac improve Spider-Man games. Peace
i love the variety of red dead redemption 2 random events, id love to see that in a spiderman game
If we ever get a Spider-Man game with that much detail it might be the last
@@BoyMadeOfCardBoard true
To be fair, at least the story enemies (Hunters, Symbiotes, and Flame members) stay post game,
in Spider-Man 1, the demons, prisoners, and sable agents go away after like five encounters each and only leaving thugs around
great video!!! I really like the transition cards, great job!
At this point, this is one of those games when i feel like being spider-man ill play it for bout 30 min and play something else
This is a beautifully made video. Comprehensive, quick, and straight to the point of what Insomniac can do better with great examples.
One things for sure, Spider-Man 2 definitely lost some of its magic that it had in the previous installments. I think this video sums it up pretty well after beating the game. Well done!
The Music in the background goes perfectly with this video. Soothing my Guy.
Great content
I'd love to see crimes involving super villains after you finish the main story, like say you get an alert that Rhino has broken out of prison and is now rampaging through the streets. This could help you feel like the villains aren't just taking the L, they are still getting out of jail to cause mayhem, and it's continuously your job to take them out time and time again. This could also serve as a cool boss rematch system in the open world with the environment changing every time. And perhaps these would be the rare crimes that can't happen that often and perhaps here you could actually get the other Spider Man to help you cause it would actually be a big threat dealing with a super villain.
This is true like I've always had this problem with every Spider-Man game I feel like there should be more Bank heist and just overall more crime like muggings and stuff like that instead of just beating up one group of gang you know
Pizza delivery and the balloon are so iconic. I'll be surprised if they never included them in the upcoming game/DLC.
I love every single idea that you put on the table
These are really really good ideas that would add so much to the game
Great video bro! The editing and presentation of everything is great! New sub 🔥
This video is incredible!!! Your ideas are incredible!!!
Genuinely SM2 is much less interesting to me compared to SM or SM:MM, because of the lackluster crime system. Having another Spider-Man to help out is cool and I like it when I jump into a crime and decide to leave it while it's in progress, the Spider-Man I am playing as says that the other one can handle it, but just this alone isn't enough.
Here is another idea: Maybe in some cases when the crime is small, sure you can leave it to the other Spider-Man, but when the crime is something along the lines of a truck being on fire or a symbiote horde attacking civilans, there shouldn't be a reason for my Spider-Man to not intervene, so I think a punishment system like what they TRIED to do in TASM2 game could be introduced, but heavily improved upon of course!
Your ideas are genuinely amazing!!! I know they could be hard to impement but this is a AAA studio we are talking about... At least half of these MUST be included in some capacity. And the best thing is, this will most definitely prolong the game play in the long run and have more people play the game for longer than just 100%-ing the game over and over again.
I love the ideas in this video, insomniac should definitely implement these
This was so well done and thought out... had me hooked!
great video, exactly described my feeling from spending tens of hours in the post story open world. Great suggestions for crime improvement. I would actually cry from happiness if some of these were added in an update
the narration at the begining is a perfect 1:1 to my experience thats insane. even rolling the credits two days after release
I think it would be cool for mini bosses in the world if a villain escapes or smth. Yeah most of them got killed off but that’s a way to have a some smaller villains or returning villains return and add variety.
One thing that I liked about the first game is that when you just walked in the crowd, there was small chance you would find people trying to attack you. They weren't counted as crimes, and there was variety to them. Like, sometimes it's an undercover guy working for Fisk who is trying to catch you off guard, and sometimes it's a group of people who got infected by Mr. Negative and are trying to attack you.
Dope video bro, i genuinely think your ideas are sick
Exactly what i was thinking man, also i wish they would add more immersive events such as
•Web swing races with Miles
•Grab a slice of pizza to eat
•Maybe have events for peter to do around nyc, walk around/change into your suit in the alley
I love Insomniac but I really was expecting them to fill this open world with more events. Open workd just felt too empty
•Also maybe crimes indoors. Like inside midtown high. Would love to fight in there maybe in the basketball court/lockers. Would love to do the bouncing off the wall moves in there
Patrolling the city After completion was the best in both previous titles. Great video
I was really dissapointed how they misued the friendly neighborhood app. I really thought that there were gonna be a bunch of cool missions where someone needed help but there were only like 4. There is so much cut content for the game which really hindered what it could've been.
Can’t forget how the moves feel super obsolete it’s like insomniac didn’t even try for the moves to feel satisfying at all
They should add B tier villains not involved with the story randomly popping up and performing bank heists or other crimes occasionally, kind of like a villain of the week mechanic, could have multiple sections depending on the crime and villain, like a chase sequence, mini-boss fight, stealth options, investigating crime scenes to track them down, etc... A lot of them have been killed off already so they'll have to pick some obscure ones, but I'm thinking things like the Shocker mission in the first game
Also we need races! Race the other Spider-Man, or other heroes, like Johnny Storm in the Ultimate Spider-Man game (especially since Fisk Tower is now the Baxter Building), Iron Man, or basically anyone who would make sense to show up and would put up a fair fight
They also need to add more random encounters with other heroes like with the other Spider-Man, Yuri, and Agent Venom in this game, for example Daredevil could be there if you're stopping a crime in Hell's Kitchen (more likely to appear at night)
So I thought of some villains they could use for this mechinc
The wall
Big wheel
The looters
Spot
The living brain
Big man
Kangaroo
Grizzly
Plant man
Leap frog
Slide
Video man
Human fly
Great Video. All these recommendations are spot on. I have a suggestion as well. Not only have random events & crimes but also have Spider-Man interact w/ the people he’s dedicated his life to protecting. Lets ride the rides at Coney Island other than the story and play against people, lets join an outdoor yoga class randomly, have Spider-Man commentate over a basketball game & be able to play chess w/ people in parks. But w/ that you need an expression world & insomniac’s pedestrians are all the same in each district w/ nothing to them. We need more people like Teo or Howard & have regulars around NYC that we can visit. Truly make us feel like a friend neighbor
Amazing video. You just got a new subscriber!
17:39 thanks for helping me decide what to eat
This guy made the most valid points i ever heard
Brilliant video! I also kinda miss the police radio you hear when a crime is up, it just felt better than a phone notification from the FNSM app, maybe they could have the random thug crimes and narcotic deals be with the police, and the other ones with the people reporting them in the app.
Hell yea Crimes should be randomly generated from a Pool of things small to medium that can happen and add a C or D list super villain robbing a bank/store/company every now and then. Would be nice if they would be good enough to play around with after you finished the game
Wow the intro was exactly what happened to me until NG+
wow, you put a lot of time into this, keep it going
Who’s going to tell him about Howard
😢😢 he has no idea
imagine having to save everyone from a burning building then having to stabilize it before it collapses😳
I love that you understand what makes spider-man spider-man. I lot of missions where you help people on a time limit is literally the point a lot of the time.
This things just make me appreciate Rockstar even more bro, ik insomniac and other studios really put effort in their games man but there’s really no point of comparison, sometimes it’s feels like they do the minimum, could be bc of deadlines that studios put tho
It’s mainly budget and deadline differences tbh
The High Speed Chase crime has something I discovered, when failing to press square the game gives you one last chance to do a QTE by pressing circle and it ends with Spidey going in the car kicking the driver out and using the car door as a surfboard while stopping it. I'm not kidding I actually tested it out and it's the same animation from the Miles Morales game. Though I have a suggestion, since the Hunters have speedboats why not insert crimes by sea that way you can still do the vehicle takedowns like when the Hunters were chasing the Lizard in the East River, better yet have some crimes happening in the air, that way there's things to do in air, sea, and/or land. Oh here's another one remember Fisk thugs undercover ambushing you when interacting with civilians along with Li's corrupted in Act 2, why not do the same with thugs, hunters, and symbiotes, I mean in the mission Wake Up Miles is tricked by a hunter in disguise and sedated
and so the cracks start to show once again
Something I've dreamed Insomniac would do in a future game is some supervillain events. I've admittedly played the first game way too much, but I remember being tired of just fighting supervillain factions/ goons.
Some examples I thought of before SM2 came out was a Shocker bank robbery (just a simple boss fight), a Vulture chase (similar to the car chases but in the sky), or a Rhino rampage (similar to the opening of Miles Morales). They would be more rare just so that it isnt tiring, but it'd be a nice reminder that some of these villains aren't always out for murder. I understand that all these villains are dead now, but its the type of stuff that happens in the comics quite a bit and there are still a lot of supervillains unaccounted for (like Big Wheel)
I think it would benefit the open world if they introduced some stealth crimes to flesh out both the stealth combat and crime system. These are just some of my ideas all as I go along btw
1. Hostage situations where you cant be spotted. There can be some variety where it could be some thugs demanding money, some psychos intending to make a sacrifice like the followers of the flame, or a desperate goon trying to evade arrest. Getting caught would likely just end in defeat. You could even maybe incorporate the latter as a teamup mechanic where in certain situations near the end of a combat encounter a thug will threaten a bystanders life if your current spidey doesnt back off, only for the one youre not playing as to intervene, and even vice versa where the other spidey will signal for your help while you swing through the city. For solo you would probably just do a web strike or something, but the other spidey can sometimes swoop in for a stealth takedown.
2. bomb diffusions where you have to diffuse a handful of bombs silently, whether it be goons trying to bust open a bank or psychos just wanting to cause damage. If youre spotted you only have a limited amount of time to deal with the enemies before they go off, otherwise resulting in injured bystanders and in the bank robbery's case, youd have to stop the goons before calling an ambulance. If you have to enter that phase of the bank robbery crime maybe the first time you do so jjj will make a podcast about it digging into you lol.
3. criminal holdouts where you silently takedown a bunch of goons to get to a heavily protected crime lord or drug peddlers, and if youre caught they escape by car, and you have to defeat their goons fast enough so as to not lose them, and have to do a follow up car chase.
4. Infiltrations where criminals are going to destroy evidence, and you have to get it to the nearest officer. If youre caught, you have to get the evidence before they can destroy it, and once you do the evidence will be destroyed when you take too much damage.
Those are just some ideas for stealth scenarios, and theres actually a lot of game potential now that im typing it out and thinking abt it. Might add more tbh lol
Your video is absolutely amazing man. After watching this video, i can't help but feel like Spiderman could have been so much better here. And i was wondering why i kept playing Spiderman 2018 so much here and this video helped explain that feeling here. I originally had spider man 2 at 8/10 Here but after watching this, it quickly dropped to a 7/10 here. Man new york feels really lifeless here without that Diversity in Crimes here. You rock friend ♥ 🐀
i feel that because they removed the requirement to respond to a certain amount of each crime in a district in order to complete it, these factions never truly go away or become more rare, giving a feel that even after doing everything there is to do in the endgame, the city is never fully saved, i think that the symbiotes should stop appearing except for a few very rare occasions after every symbiote nest is destroyed, and why are there so many hunters even after their leader died and all of their bases have been raided?
Something I praised about the original is how the open world crimes supported the sense of crimes ramping up, and then eventually returning to normalcy once you 100% the game, afterwards the game felt like a slice of life for Spider-Man regardless of when it took place, and it felt rewarding to wrap up all the chaos that insued in the wake of the main story
You lifted great points!
Dude these are amazing ideas and I would love to see them implemented into the game.
I feel like these would add more to the constant stress spiderman is under, like he reacts more calm to the low level stuff but as the game goes on and crimes stack more he gets audibly more stressed.
11:02 maybe for Spider-Man 3 have a story mission that revolves around a hot air balloon festival that’s taking place over the ocean, maybe in the mission, green goblin terrorises the event, similar to the first Spider-Man movie. This will give Spider-Man an easier time swinging in the open world over the ocean as those hot air balloons will stay there for post game as well
I absolutely love these ideas! Hopefully this video can get enough traction where someone at Insomniac might see it and possibly bring it up in a group meeting to maybe add these features to the game in a future DLC expansion.😮😄🤞🏼
I was actually really suprised the other day finding out that the hinters actually can ambush you setting up a fake yellow gear chest and jumping you when you open it. But in my 72h playing it only happened once so it really should be more often
Miles morales has really good crime variety
The nostalgia of Spider-Man 2 is so strong lol. Those damn balloon missions 12:00 were fkn hard 😭🤣
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Man I'd love Insomniac to watch this. I also loved the mission in the first game where you follow a woman's husband to discover he's wrapped up in a heist - tracking his elevator as you crawl up the building and spy through the window to photograph their plans. I really thought the sequel would build on this variety, not strip back.
All great ideas. Another one to add would be small-time villains of the week. Someone like the Spot could randomly be the robber or part of any random crime. Maybe sometimes they could work together as well. Over time, they could gain skills and abilities as well.
Lots of effort in this video and many good ideas in this video! I’m not a bot, I’m a person with opinions and feelings. I really appreciate the work put into this.
So good! Would love to see these ideas, especially pizza delivery 😂
I'd love to see a rare event where an established Spider-Man villain would escape from prison and you'd have to catch them. Yes, it would probably be extremely expensive but hey, one can dream.
Amazing video, including these things would make an extraordinary Spider-Man 3
I think something else that would make the game feel less stale is not locking you out of locations like FEAST or the Emily-May foundation. They did this with Ottos lab in the first game but a more populated place would feel more lively. The Emily-May foundation or Science Lab from Miles Morales were fun to explore and I’d love to revisit them post game.
Something I thought about is the near non-existent random encounters in the first Marvel's Spider-Man where you would talk with a civilian but he would turn out to be a undercover agent for Fisk and you would have to fight him. Implementing something like this into those more relaxed crimes like saving a kid's balloon or saving a crane operator but have it turn out to be a enemy faction ambushing you after saving them. Something like this happening out of a rare chance would keep these crimes interesting even after you have done them before seeing how you would be on your guard the entire time.
Something I would love it came back to this Spider-Man games is races, like the ones in Ultimate Spider-Man. They kinda did something in the first game with the Taskmaster dron chasing but it's just that, a chasing, not a race. However Miles Morales did something with the Holo-Pete training but there were just three of them, and wasn't so much complicated. But if they added like 30 races that would be a lot more fun, and obviously, every newer race is more and more complicated, even if they want to they could add some online leadermark to see the best time marks like Arkham Knight does with some AR challenges. I don't know, I just liked a lot the races in the Ultimate Spider-Man game
I love the way he just casually did one of the most sickest fucking moves at 2:03 and just brushed it off as if it was nothing… I’ve never seen anything like that being performed in SM2 👀👀
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I personally think another way insomniac could possibly improve post game content, like everything presented in this video, would be more "villains of the week." In the first Spider-man game, they did great with Taskmaster and (semi-painstaking) Screwball, as they provided more stuff to do and improved the world building. C-D list Villains like Big Wheel, Jackal, Hydro man, Molten man and Swarm would be great as they pose a threat to NYC in ways that support your ideas.
Building on fire: Molten Man was trying to flee from a crime scene but his powers are uncontrollable, causing a huge fire to breakout. You have a time limit to putting out the fire and so on (as stated in your video)
Hydro man could be putting people in danger by the docs, making you chase him or gather clues to where he'd be next. this would use the car surfing mechanic a lot more and would possibly expand upon it (shooting webs when surfing)
Big Wheel hijacked the ferris wheel and is running rampit in NYC. Now it's up to you and the other Spiderman to stop him.
Swarm's bee's are lowering the population of pigeons in NYC, you have to catch and save them while tracking swarm.
These are just a few ideas I thought would be possible and fun as a world-builder for the Spider-men had they added more obsucre villians
I wish insomniac’s see this video. Spiderman 2 is a great game but after I finished it 100 precent the game is missing something remarkable as the first game was. Every idea that you give here well add so much for this game. Hope with the dlc we will see more content. Great video
I had an idea ,what if depending of the time of the day the crimes change;
Day time:Bank heists,Car chases,bombs,purse stealing, accidents etc.
Night Time:Armed Robbery, Stop Drunk driver,Help Firefighters to stop a Fire/rescue civilian from fire,stop jewel robbery, etc.
That'll be awesome, and the city will feel more organic , with day and night cycle.
Great video I hope insomniac can some how see this and take some ideas for Spider-Man 3
Awesome suggestions 👍👍👍🔥
Someone said one time that they could spice up car chases by adding more variety to how you could catch them. Like maybe shooting a web net in their path. They could turn and try to avoid it for extra challenge. Or maybe have something to where you can fling them into a spider web in the air. I don’t know, anything than what’s usually done would be cool
Great suggestions