Nice iceberg video. I think when it comes to Pikamee’s graduation, I’ve been hearing a lot of conflicting reports on whether or not the Hogwarts situation was the reason why she graduated but it was still a really bad situation and I probably wouldn’t be surprised if that was a contributing reason or at least sped up the graduation date if she always planned to graduate this year. Also, I will admit, I am really surprised the Rushia drama and termination wasn’t in the iceberg considering how much of a big deal it was.
I would say it’s pretty obvious now pikamee’s graduation and hogwarts legacy are completely unrelated. Only impact it had was not more streams before graduation.
I can second the notion that the Pikamee cancellation and graduation were just a horrible coincidence. VOMS had the graduation merch ready to go as soon as the graduation itself was announced, entailing that Pikamee’s leave was already in the works beforehand. For a point of comparison, you remember the first Sonic movie and backlash to the initial design? There was a conspiracy theory going around that Sonic’s bad first design and the surprisingly quick resolution to delay the movie to change it was a giant marketing ploy to drive hype for the movie. A fairly convincing argument could’ve been made for this being completely the case but it was ultimately debunked when it came to light that there was already plushies and other toys with the old design made. That was still put out for purchase. Merchandise production is not a spontaneous practice, the existence of toys with the old Sonic design was proof positive that Paramount was willing to go forward with the design unironically until the Sonic fandom and wider moviegoing public slapped them down.
When it comes to sketchek's new incarnation, from what i heard someone said that he would make a good pyro main in the comments, and apparently the comment was immediately deleted
Gonna comment on this as I go: -for the Pokimane thing, there’s actually two other camps to the haters; the first is people familiar with her recent drama with smaller RUclipsr ItsAGundam (basically he made a video roasting a viewer who allegedly bankrupted himself to simp her) where she tried to get his sponsorship pulled (she failed but the shit she stirred cost him a much bigger deal he already had in the bag) and made fun of him for using a VR avatar so her turning around and trying to cash in on the VTuber craze with a shitty VR model of herself was a clear hypocrite move; the other extra faction was just people who thought Pokimane’s model was choppy, fugly mess and that she got absolutely ripped off on her order -Brittany Venti was apparently also a prolific troll, though the only place I knew her from prior to the Gura thing was her participation in He Will Not Divide Us (basically Shia LaBeouf acting like a divisive dipshit in response to the 2016 election to somehow prevent political division in America with a flag he made), or rather 4chan’s regular casual sabotage of He Will Not Divide Us for a cheap laugh -yeah, the Hogwarts Legacy thing was absolutely brutal for Pikamee; while hindsight has taught us that she was already on her way out (the smoking gun being that VOMS already had graduation merch at the ready) but that was at least one whole month of happy memories suddenly gone because she was either crying off-stream or finalizing the graduation early instead of streaming for the fans who JUST got time with her after a lengthy hiatus and now had to wait with bated breath worried for her in the moment -Everyone knows that the actual first real VTubers was Alvin and the Chipmunks :p -On the note of Depressed Nousagi, there was also the matter that he regularly got shit from Kiara and Ame fans for his exposés on them, even getting the boot from Ame fan Discords for it, and generally acted like a smug bitch about it on his livestreams… up until the moment where the wider VTuber caught wind and came down on him at once -In regards to Hololive Moments, one thing not mentioned was he was the monopoly source for a bunch of holo hood classics the originated from BiliBili and that he kept copystriking any reuploads of or transformative works featuring his old clips; this ensured that basically no one could ever enjoy his old contributions to the fandom ever again -oof, the Nux vs VShojo thing is why I was wary to follow anything VShojo after, even clips and fan animations for the longest time; that said, the extent of Melody’s involvement was apparently just blasting him on Twitter and not apologizing as publicly as she called him out since, in actuality, her alleged role with approving Nux’s vid was way overstated by Froot throwing her under the bus with the pretense of a panic attack (learned of this while blasting recaps of this situation during the Silvervale part of the earlier-mentioned Hogwarts Legacy drama, not my proudest moment) -oh man, the Saruei thing… around this time, it was also exposed that she was a terrible employer as well since it came out that condescended to a potential clipper and editor because she wanted someone already familiar with the culture of her chat and all the big in-jokes so she dumped on the poor dude for saying he wasn’t that familiar with her streams but willing to put in the work to learn; unrelated, there was also a clip of Saruei from her fleshtuber days where she remarked about the pointless stupidity of Twitter drama and to never engage in it… which conspicuously disappeared from RUclips around the time this drama was happening, totally a coincidence -wow, I haven’t heard a Connor take that bad since… Riro Ron actually, my god -I’d say anti-male sentiment is more of an idol culture thing than a general anime thing; idols are presented as pure (in body and mind) bachelorettes to attract the needy and horny dude who want a talented hot babe to themselves, if not several, so any male that’s not family or management (which serve as a self-insert role) is a huge threat to the illusion that they’d have a shot with the idol or any yuri-bait thrown about; since Hololive marketed itself as an idol brand in the beginning while tapping into the anime aesthetic, we sometimes get the worst of both worlds -Yagoo got misspelled right before Layer 6 -Last thing on the Hitomi Chris, she was intended as part of JP Gen 1 but the notable hole she left in her termination led hololive to having Mel, a late entrant into Generation 0, fill Chris’ old space and retroactively made her Generation 1 in the branding, not dissimilar to how Fubuki is officially part of both Gen 1 and GAMERS. -… don’t trust Ant-Hime about Froot either, heads up -I guess I owe Taiga a re-sub, thanks for the heads-up Lovely iceberg, learned a thing or two along the way and got to look back on fonder times too.
I have heard many of the info featured here from my own research, especially the stuff from the bottom part of the iceberg, but the sketcheck one took me by surprise
You've mentioned a lot of interesting information in this video and there's plenty of information, which is new for me, even though I've spent more than one year in this community. I only have questions for Hitomi's "sponsor" accusations, cuz' I never met such accusations towards him and there was no mention of them in Nousagi's video about Hitomi(which is weird, considering how deeply our vhistorian digs for information). Also I(and, I guess, plenty of people) would like to see the proofs and the original statements themselves which are mentioned in this iceberg(I know that's not necessary for iceberg content, but that's far from being a useless thing here). The other things here are well-made, especially the information, which you chose to tell. Even your pronunciation is good and your accent doesn't ruin it(The only thing, that may confuse listeners is that you pronounce short "ɪ" sound like long "i:" sound, like a typical Slav). The only thing that disappointed me a little bit in this video - is editing: The video lacks dynamics and on-topic materials on screen, which makes memorization of information from this video harder and just makes it more boring, especially when we're talking about long videos like this. (And also sorry for writing my comment in Russian at first. I thought you are the one, cuz' your accent is similar to Russian and I, not checking the information, wrote my comment in Russian. I'm incredibly sorry for that)
Found some nice content creators. Man, seeking toxic content on a RUclips is so hard, I wish I had X, but it just not for me. And Facebook etc shit, most likely, will not even allow me to create an account.
Very nice video! Immediately subbed! though just one part correction: 17:19 '[mel] left that industry" Mel never left *that* AKA camgirl industry, infact she's doing better at and with it every week! Either way, great video. Very informative and surprised about how many i didn't know or even have a hint about happening (mostly non-EN ones)
Nice iceberg video. I think when it comes to Pikamee’s graduation, I’ve been hearing a lot of conflicting reports on whether or not the Hogwarts situation was the reason why she graduated but it was still a really bad situation and I probably wouldn’t be surprised if that was a contributing reason or at least sped up the graduation date if she always planned to graduate this year. Also, I will admit, I am really surprised the Rushia drama and termination wasn’t in the iceberg considering how much of a big deal it was.
I would say it’s pretty obvious now pikamee’s graduation and hogwarts legacy are completely unrelated. Only impact it had was not more streams before graduation.
I can second the notion that the Pikamee cancellation and graduation were just a horrible coincidence. VOMS had the graduation merch ready to go as soon as the graduation itself was announced, entailing that Pikamee’s leave was already in the works beforehand.
For a point of comparison, you remember the first Sonic movie and backlash to the initial design? There was a conspiracy theory going around that Sonic’s bad first design and the surprisingly quick resolution to delay the movie to change it was a giant marketing ploy to drive hype for the movie. A fairly convincing argument could’ve been made for this being completely the case but it was ultimately debunked when it came to light that there was already plushies and other toys with the old design made. That was still put out for purchase. Merchandise production is not a spontaneous practice, the existence of toys with the old Sonic design was proof positive that Paramount was willing to go forward with the design unironically until the Sonic fandom and wider moviegoing public slapped them down.
@@mayborneflower yea, I kind of figured that was the case a while after posting that comment.
When it comes to sketchek's new incarnation, from what i heard someone said that he would make a good pyro main in the comments, and apparently the comment was immediately deleted
Gonna comment on this as I go:
-for the Pokimane thing, there’s actually two other camps to the haters; the first is people familiar with her recent drama with smaller RUclipsr ItsAGundam (basically he made a video roasting a viewer who allegedly bankrupted himself to simp her) where she tried to get his sponsorship pulled (she failed but the shit she stirred cost him a much bigger deal he already had in the bag) and made fun of him for using a VR avatar so her turning around and trying to cash in on the VTuber craze with a shitty VR model of herself was a clear hypocrite move; the other extra faction was just people who thought Pokimane’s model was choppy, fugly mess and that she got absolutely ripped off on her order
-Brittany Venti was apparently also a prolific troll, though the only place I knew her from prior to the Gura thing was her participation in He Will Not Divide Us (basically Shia LaBeouf acting like a divisive dipshit in response to the 2016 election to somehow prevent political division in America with a flag he made), or rather 4chan’s regular casual sabotage of He Will Not Divide Us for a cheap laugh
-yeah, the Hogwarts Legacy thing was absolutely brutal for Pikamee; while hindsight has taught us that she was already on her way out (the smoking gun being that VOMS already had graduation merch at the ready) but that was at least one whole month of happy memories suddenly gone because she was either crying off-stream or finalizing the graduation early instead of streaming for the fans who JUST got time with her after a lengthy hiatus and now had to wait with bated breath worried for her in the moment
-Everyone knows that the actual first real VTubers was Alvin and the Chipmunks :p
-On the note of Depressed Nousagi, there was also the matter that he regularly got shit from Kiara and Ame fans for his exposés on them, even getting the boot from Ame fan Discords for it, and generally acted like a smug bitch about it on his livestreams… up until the moment where the wider VTuber caught wind and came down on him at once
-In regards to Hololive Moments, one thing not mentioned was he was the monopoly source for a bunch of holo hood classics the originated from BiliBili and that he kept copystriking any reuploads of or transformative works featuring his old clips; this ensured that basically no one could ever enjoy his old contributions to the fandom ever again
-oof, the Nux vs VShojo thing is why I was wary to follow anything VShojo after, even clips and fan animations for the longest time; that said, the extent of Melody’s involvement was apparently just blasting him on Twitter and not apologizing as publicly as she called him out since, in actuality, her alleged role with approving Nux’s vid was way overstated by Froot throwing her under the bus with the pretense of a panic attack (learned of this while blasting recaps of this situation during the Silvervale part of the earlier-mentioned Hogwarts Legacy drama, not my proudest moment)
-oh man, the Saruei thing… around this time, it was also exposed that she was a terrible employer as well since it came out that condescended to a potential clipper and editor because she wanted someone already familiar with the culture of her chat and all the big in-jokes so she dumped on the poor dude for saying he wasn’t that familiar with her streams but willing to put in the work to learn; unrelated, there was also a clip of Saruei from her fleshtuber days where she remarked about the pointless stupidity of Twitter drama and to never engage in it… which conspicuously disappeared from RUclips around the time this drama was happening, totally a coincidence
-wow, I haven’t heard a Connor take that bad since… Riro Ron actually, my god
-I’d say anti-male sentiment is more of an idol culture thing than a general anime thing; idols are presented as pure (in body and mind) bachelorettes to attract the needy and horny dude who want a talented hot babe to themselves, if not several, so any male that’s not family or management (which serve as a self-insert role) is a huge threat to the illusion that they’d have a shot with the idol or any yuri-bait thrown about; since Hololive marketed itself as an idol brand in the beginning while tapping into the anime aesthetic, we sometimes get the worst of both worlds
-Yagoo got misspelled right before Layer 6
-Last thing on the Hitomi Chris, she was intended as part of JP Gen 1 but the notable hole she left in her termination led hololive to having Mel, a late entrant into Generation 0, fill Chris’ old space and retroactively made her Generation 1 in the branding, not dissimilar to how Fubuki is officially part of both Gen 1 and GAMERS.
-… don’t trust Ant-Hime about Froot either, heads up
-I guess I owe Taiga a re-sub, thanks for the heads-up
Lovely iceberg, learned a thing or two along the way and got to look back on fonder times too.
Luckily the hagwarts situation only accelerated Pikamee's transformation into Henya, it didn't cause it.
I have heard many of the info featured here from my own research, especially the stuff from the bottom part of the iceberg, but the sketcheck one took me by surprise
I know, i was suprised as well when i found out
You've mentioned a lot of interesting information in this video and there's plenty of information, which is new for me, even though I've spent more than one year in this community. I only have questions for Hitomi's "sponsor" accusations, cuz' I never met such accusations towards him and there was no mention of them in Nousagi's video about Hitomi(which is weird, considering how deeply our vhistorian digs for information). Also I(and, I guess, plenty of people) would like to see the proofs and the original statements themselves which are mentioned in this iceberg(I know that's not necessary for iceberg content, but that's far from being a useless thing here).
The other things here are well-made, especially the information, which you chose to tell. Even your pronunciation is good and your accent doesn't ruin it(The only thing, that may confuse listeners is that you pronounce short "ɪ" sound like long "i:" sound, like a typical Slav). The only thing that disappointed me a little bit in this video - is editing: The video lacks dynamics and on-topic materials on screen, which makes memorization of information from this video harder and just makes it more boring, especially when we're talking about long videos like this.
(And also sorry for writing my comment in Russian at first. I thought you are the one, cuz' your accent is similar to Russian and I, not checking the information, wrote my comment in Russian. I'm incredibly sorry for that)
Bro imagine donating 500k just so you can simp😂😂😂
After the veibae said that about lilly and vea basically being a one skill vtuber i stopped watching anything related to her after that
Surprised the Rushia/Mikeneko thing never came up
nice iceberg vid!
Tanks for the info man.
Very well said and cursed knowledge ☕🗿
Voice changer theory on in my country indonesia is "VTUBER ITU OM OM" Mean "vtuber is male" is a male behind girl avatar and voice charger
Found some nice content creators.
Man, seeking toxic content on a RUclips is so hard, I wish I had X, but it just not for me. And Facebook etc shit, most likely, will not even allow me to create an account.
It would have been nice if you stated each topic before explaining, for us who are mostly listening rather than watching.
Very nice video! Immediately subbed! though just one part correction: 17:19 '[mel] left that industry"
Mel never left *that* AKA camgirl industry, infact she's doing better at and with it every week!
Either way, great video. Very informative and surprised about how many i didn't know or even have a hint about happening (mostly non-EN ones)