How to Train With Shoulder Pain (and FIX IT for Good)

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @REVIVALFitness
    @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +3

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  • @corenko
    @corenko Месяц назад +50

    "Chest up, shoulder's f*cked"

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +8

      ‼️

    • @bullinvginshop9011
      @bullinvginshop9011 Месяц назад +7

      Once I stopped retracting my shoulder blades and arching my spine during presses my shoulder pain went away.

    • @MT-hy6pr
      @MT-hy6pr Месяц назад +1

      ​@@bullinvginshop9011 Same. The exaggerated arch destroys shoulder joints.

  • @marcmcphee
    @marcmcphee Месяц назад +11

    Right on the money! Ever since I started “retracting my scapula”, I’ve been slowly getting an increase in shoulder pain (on my right side)…I’m going to go back to how I was doing it before (and had no pain)…apparently I was also doing dumbbell flyes with too much weight (70 pounds per side)…so I’ve gone way down and that has already started helping. It’s all a journey but THANK YOU for this vid…no BS. I’m here for it. 💪💪🏋️‍♀️🏋️‍♀️

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you

    • @richardcaraballo1185
      @richardcaraballo1185 Месяц назад +3

      I'd recommend switching out dumbbell flyes period if you have any shoulder issues. The pec deck and cable crossover are suitable replacements. I speak from experience, flyes used to TEAR UP my shoulder, but once I replaced them, shoulders stopped hurting.

    • @marcmcphee
      @marcmcphee Месяц назад

      @@richardcaraballo1185 I don’t have access to a pec deck or cables. I’ve dropped the weight way down to just 25 pounds to get the movement in and it has made a huge difference so far (it’s only been a week or so). I may take your advice and just ditch them completely because it’s not worth it.

  • @ivaldirbatalha5436
    @ivaldirbatalha5436 Месяц назад +5

    for the long arm boys, a wide "powerlifter like" grip actually helped me alot, together with a small back arch.
    Those two got my wrist and shoulder pain a lot better.

  • @richardcaraballo1185
    @richardcaraballo1185 Месяц назад +1

    It's crazy how injury prone the shoulder joint is, yet how ignored it is on this platform. Shout-out to you for covering it. I injured my shoulder in a car accident actually, and ever since then it ain't been the same. Not bad enough to warrant a hospital trip and all the bills that come with it, but bad enough that i can't barbell bench press anymore, which used to be my favorite lift 😔😔

  • @Matwew21
    @Matwew21 Месяц назад +8

    Hey bro, just wanna say if you ever feel like doing non gym videos to upload more, just do it. I watch them because of your personality *and* because of the content in them tbh

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +6

      I do from time to time. I might start another channel for purely non-lifting stuff eventually.

    • @Neverwouldd
      @Neverwouldd Месяц назад

      So true

  • @Rayon811
    @Rayon811 Месяц назад +7

    elliptical machine helped me so much with my shoulders, esp. if you lean back and let shoulders be stretched fully. Great warm up.

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +2

      That’s a new one

    • @Rayon811
      @Rayon811 Месяц назад

      @@REVIVALFitness I have 10 minutes walk to a gym, so I thought, man I dont need to warm up, other than some stationary shit.
      But moving your hands back and forth on a elliptical helped me a lot.

  • @dr.monkey8385
    @dr.monkey8385 Месяц назад +1

    the last point about scapular retraction on pressing movements was eye-opening. Im currently in physical therapy for repeated shoulder impingement and we have started working on strengthening the serratus and improving scapular protraction since my left scapula wings a bit. I had always been taught to retract scapula on pressing movements and your video really illuminated the connection between that and my shoulder issues. excellent video!

  • @JesseTheBody1
    @JesseTheBody1 Месяц назад +1

    I never had shoulder issues then I took 11 years off from the gym. I’ve been back in for 2 years. I have distal clavicle osteolysis now. I’ve adjusted my flare when benching, done less OHP, and do not spend time thinking about scap retraction. I simply push the weight. Seems to have helped.

  • @zsoltliptai9591
    @zsoltliptai9591 Месяц назад +3

    I have a 6'7 wingspan and fucked shoulders from D1 sports.
    With this new craze of stretch mediated hypertrophy I was doing extra ROM cable laterals, DB presses, etc and they completely fucked me up. I learned the hard way not to go overboard with it. Don't cut the standard ROM, but lower or stretch the weight only until it doesn't hurt. Like RF mentions with OHP. Your posture will collapse, there will be no space for your tendons and ligaments and you will mess them up. IMO it is better to progress with slightly less "optimal" form than no progression because you are always hurt.
    We are all going to make it!

  • @eddiegardner8232
    @eddiegardner8232 Месяц назад +4

    As a 78 year old guy trying to recover muscle mass lost during Androgen Deprivation Therapy(to undetectable T level for prostate cancer treatment), I find your training recommendations and explanations to make the most sense for me. I am now "unnaturally natural" to high normal range T levels on TRT, vacillating between cut or bulk strategy. I don't want to regain the 30 pounds of waist fat I put on doing ADT, and have now lost on diet and resistance exercise (177 lbs --> 147 lbs), but I need more muscle on my 5'9" frame. A slower muscle gain rate in exchange for less fat accumulation is acceptable. Do you have any suggestions for exercise/diet strategy? I trust you will have the best and honest advice. Thank you.

    • @bloxnbrixgamer61
      @bloxnbrixgamer61 Месяц назад +1

      damn 78

    • @eddiegardner8232
      @eddiegardner8232 Месяц назад +1

      @@bloxnbrixgamer61 Yeah, a 20 year old in a 78 year old body, wondering WTF went wrong.

    • @bloxnbrixgamer61
      @bloxnbrixgamer61 Месяц назад +1

      @@eddiegardner8232 its gonna happen to me soon lol, life goes fast.

  • @ivaldirbatalha5436
    @ivaldirbatalha5436 Месяц назад +7

    we need the algorithm back tho bro

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +2

      Man that hasn't made an appearance in years now it seems

    • @ivaldirbatalha5436
      @ivaldirbatalha5436 Месяц назад

      @@REVIVALFitness yeaa, miss it, that was something super unique i saw in your videos when i found your channel

  • @olivierlazure1
    @olivierlazure1 Месяц назад +4

    In my first years of lifting, I was bench pressing with elbows flared out because that's what people like Kinobody were doing, and my shoulders always hurt and my overhead press strength was limited by this, but eventually, I figured out that a slight elbow tuck of 45 degrees is better than going 90 degrees (elbows flared out), and that completely fixed the issue. One of the problems with form videos on youtube is when you have a youtuber with a really big audience doing the lift wrong, then people start to copy him and get injured, thankfully I caught the issue before that happened.

    • @marzukkhan3396
      @marzukkhan3396 Месяц назад +1

      Well Kinbody benches over 3 plates while being shredded and doesn't have any shoulder injuries so I don't think his form by itself was your problem

    • @jessekappler4160
      @jessekappler4160 Месяц назад

      ​@marzukkhan3396 it could be. Idk who you're talking about but they are probably more genetically gifted and possibly younger. You can be shredded and bench 3 plates with bad form.

    • @marzukkhan3396
      @marzukkhan3396 Месяц назад

      @@jessekappler4160 well i know the guy and hes been an advanced lifter for some time and he doesn't have bad form on bench press. As mentioned in the video, it may look like the elbows are flared but that doesn't necessarily mean the form is bad or there is internal rotation. He may not have powerlifting form but its not bad form

  • @antoniostrina82
    @antoniostrina82 Месяц назад

    Wonderful video. Recently, I alleviated my tendinopathy on my left shoulder following some rehab exercises but I would add that other two things helped me. The first one is performing clean movement in every exercise, and the second one is performing the dumbbell chest press in a stretching way using the other hand as a help during both the positive and the negative, especially in the positive anyway. Just anecdotal but I hope that my experience could match some other people's experience.

  • @richardcerritelli9657
    @richardcerritelli9657 Месяц назад

    This is spot on I've been having arm shoulder nips and pains for 45 years lol been doing heavy benching all my life competitively always have those lingering pains restrictive movements and the weird thing is it went from my left arm for like 7 years to my right arm for the last 6 years I'm not kidding you sound strange but that's the way it is chiropractor did no good just have to deal with the pain and still packing away after all these years going heavy on bench in pain.

  • @callum5471
    @callum5471 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks bro, this really helps with a dislocated shoulder

  • @ciaranmehigan1206
    @ciaranmehigan1206 Месяц назад

    Great video and great point about scapular retraction I was doing this on incline DB Press and it didn't feel right at all I kept on focusing on that than the actual movement. Some exercises upset the elbow too at times like single Arm tricep extensions and Incline DB Skullcrushers but I did notice that when you had a the bench really far back it doesn't irritate the elbow

  • @ChudBogdanoff
    @ChudBogdanoff Месяц назад +1

    I had right shoulder pain during benching, push-ups etc for 8 months. After some reaserch one possible reason was that my back and rear delts are too weak compared to my chest and front delts. I modofied my training so I did 22 sets per week for my back and rear delts and only 6 sets for chest. After 2.5 months my shoulder pain completly went away and my posture has improved.

    • @TheErnman-gd3eg
      @TheErnman-gd3eg Месяц назад +2

      58 year old here. I have cranky shoulders from decades of lifting but a few years ago I started focusing on rear delt/rotator cuff work and it’s made a big difference.

    • @ChudBogdanoff
      @ChudBogdanoff Месяц назад

      @@TheErnman-gd3eg sometimes some insight with a little bit of patience can do wonders

  • @entername4166
    @entername4166 Месяц назад +2

    Finally the vid I've been asking for !!!!!!!!!

  • @Not-Lunar
    @Not-Lunar Месяц назад

    For me, focusing a lot more on upper back training and adding in vertical presses helped a lot. Also, relaxing with super ROM presses also helped.

  • @ratmajat22
    @ratmajat22 28 дней назад

    Tip: I’ve found that dumbell pullovers really improve my shoulder mobility.

  • @BubbyX669
    @BubbyX669 Месяц назад

    25lbs plate halos and rotator cuff rotations with bands is what always primes my upper joints.

  • @Linkskyfyre
    @Linkskyfyre Месяц назад +1

    Finally, the video I requested months ago!🎉

  • @danielyeary148
    @danielyeary148 Месяц назад

    Pullovers have helped my shoulders a lot

  • @blazecow1133
    @blazecow1133 Месяц назад +2

    Its time for the algorithm
    🦅

  • @Chrisket
    @Chrisket Месяц назад +1

    My crunchy shoulder and I thank you

  • @nomaderic
    @nomaderic Месяц назад

    Listen to your body as well. I made the mistake of not doing that and ended up not being able to press for a week or so to not being able to press for like 2 months. My body usually tells me if im on the verge of something going wrong. A little tiny bit of pain can turn into a lot of pain very quickly

  • @hanskazan7403
    @hanskazan7403 Месяц назад +1

    always had some shoulder pain after benching touch and go then started to pause bench and never had shoulder issiues again

  • @masterbaiter7757
    @masterbaiter7757 Месяц назад

    Yeah was chasing 315 bench so hard then I got weightlifters shoulder(overuse/impingement) and I couldn’t do any push movements, even some pull ones hurt. I had it about a year before I could bench again, towards the end I started using very light weight and would go very slow and get a stretch, then explode back up. That helped a lot with getting back into lifting and I’ve spent most of this year getting back where I was strength wise. But now I’ve been fighting this bug or something that’s been messing with me and I haven’t really been able to progress.

  • @shinythegoat1389
    @shinythegoat1389 Месяц назад

    Hey MK, can you please make a video on how to break through strength plateaus? Because my legs are big but somehow still weak and it pisses me off. Ik you have a similar one but can u make an updated one focusing more on strength training rather than muscle building? That would be really helpful.

  • @marcmcphee
    @marcmcphee Месяц назад

    Notification squad!!! Get after it!! 💪💪🏋️‍♀️🏋️‍♀️

  • @poejavelski148
    @poejavelski148 Месяц назад

    For me I hurt my shoulder as a noob and had on and off shoulder pain in my first year of lifting. Funnily enough, knock on wood but I haven’t had shoulder issues in the last 4 years after, the fix being bulking (I was frail before) and getting much stronger shoulders. I didn’t actually do any specific stretches to fix the issue.

  • @Connor827
    @Connor827 Месяц назад

    6:39 your very tight down there ☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @olliski2802
    @olliski2802 Месяц назад

    Hurt my shoulder recently and I’m still just as strong in all my lifts but if I move it the wrong way I feel pain idk if it’s a ligament thing.

  • @bernardoalbano1816
    @bernardoalbano1816 Месяц назад

    Good video

  • @Sunkem1Not6Hacks
    @Sunkem1Not6Hacks Месяц назад

    You should do a video about knee strengthening. I feel like that just isn't discussed enough, though I am out of the loop when it comes to fitness media so I might be wrong.

  • @V1PERB3ATZ
    @V1PERB3ATZ Месяц назад

    Question: (sorry spammed on a few posts I want some opinions) - I’ve been going gym for a while, I now go with my friend who’s in better shape than me by far, I also try to eat as good as I can and definitely do better than most people while eating protein primarily most days, I don’t do too much cardio like I did before, I recently done a testosterone test and it says my test is HIGH and my free test is in the normal range for my age (21). But after all I can’t seem to grow properly AND I’m lowkey skinny fat with a small belly, I only weigh around 70kg and been going gym for around a year… is it just my genetics? Is my build small like that and I need to lose even more fat and become 60kg to look decent without fat? I feel like as a man I’m too “weak” especially for someone going gym this much. THINKING OF TAKING A ESTROGEN TEST AS WELL COULD THAT BE THE PROBLEM EVEN THOUGH I ALSO HAVE HIGH TEST APPARENTLY? (More on my mind but can’t remember everything to mention right now). Thanks for any advice.

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад

      Hey. I can’t properly answer this in the comments without more context. If you join Patreon, we can direct message and cover things in full detail, including sending progress pictures. www.patreon.com/MKAngeletti or linked in my channel about page. Thank you.

  • @zmvrcv
    @zmvrcv Месяц назад

    elbow, knee pain is way more common since the joints have a fixed path, make a video for those people too.

  • @InterFinumRerum
    @InterFinumRerum Месяц назад

    Interesting how you just made this video as I recently developed shoulder issues with all pressing motions. The cut is going insane for me though. 2 more pounds and I am done.

  • @MasterDChief
    @MasterDChief Месяц назад

    My shoulders are bothered by dumbbell laterals

  • @andrewspicecake
    @andrewspicecake Месяц назад

    It's amazing how according to the LIKES only about 5% of those who chose to view this video have shoulder pain 👏😎

  • @ivanivanovski1
    @ivanivanovski1 Месяц назад +1

    Was waiting for this video. Thanks!

  • @AMG-ko3gt
    @AMG-ko3gt Месяц назад

    Bruh yesterday, I might've hurt or impinged my left shoulder a bit when I was removing my collared shirt. But right now I just finished my pull day workout and my left shoulder is feeling fine. I even hit the punching bag after lifting.

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +1

      Ultimate grindset moment, injuring yourself with business attire

    • @AMG-ko3gt
      @AMG-ko3gt Месяц назад

      ​@@REVIVALFitness Bruh 💀🤣

  • @johnprager662
    @johnprager662 Месяц назад

    What do you think about upright rows?

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад

      Good exercise, just have to know the right technique

  • @Ethereum1789
    @Ethereum1789 Месяц назад +1

    Can you do one for Low back and Hips?

  • @metamodernbarbell
    @metamodernbarbell Месяц назад +1

    Some people's shoulders actually do better with a wider-grip.

  • @SachinThakur-wk9ft
    @SachinThakur-wk9ft Месяц назад

    Is it ok if you cant sustain the same reps in all sets of an exercise. I struggle with this on bench and ohp particulary and I get below the 5 rep mark sometimes. What to do?

    • @Nigga-ti9qr
      @Nigga-ti9qr Месяц назад

      Yes that's fine. Sometimes you may have to drop the weight if you do too little of reps. Low reps are ok tho as long as it's till failure. Make sure you don't have any major form breakdown and you're good 👍🏾

  • @loves2smooch384
    @loves2smooch384 Месяц назад

    I just do incline bench .... i have 0 shoulder pain 0 elbow pain

  • @Volty-fn
    @Volty-fn Месяц назад +1

    I only get elbow pain on overhead triceps

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +2

      You and me both

    • @Volty-fn
      @Volty-fn Месяц назад +1

      ​@@REVIVALFitness do you just push through it?

    • @David1807m
      @David1807m Месяц назад +1

      Warm up your triceps before overhead work in general, (ohp, overhead triceps extension, db pullovers)
      That's a tendinitis, you can fix them in like 5 minutes with a good massage in the triceps tendons

    • @David1807m
      @David1807m Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@Volty-fn dude never push while you have pain, that's the quickest way to get a serious injury

  • @pgs4870
    @pgs4870 Месяц назад

    i dont have pain but i have a fucking pop in left shoulder everytime i press

  • @DrOrr
    @DrOrr Месяц назад

    My left chest is messed up for sum reason too lol

  • @shadowman3557
    @shadowman3557 Месяц назад

    Whats the background music bro

  • @Riza20462
    @Riza20462 Месяц назад

    You ever plan to make videos about politics? Or journalism
    You would be a good street interviewer

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад

      I don’t think so, but that’s not a bad idea

  • @WadaMalone
    @WadaMalone 23 дня назад

    Want to get shoulder pain? Do lots of push and hardly any pull, like my n00b self used to

  • @watermelonpinapple8618
    @watermelonpinapple8618 Месяц назад

    Yo, hows the carnivore diet going bro?
    Ive just been eating intuitively with carnivore. Im about 8-10lbs more than i was just a month ago lol.
    Im looking to get lean but oh well, I'll stick to it to see if i "get fat adapted" and shed the love handles.
    And no i dont use seasoning, just meat , butter, salt, and some milk or cheese here amd there.

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад

      I would guess you have a bigger appetite then. If I ate to satiety with carnivore I would drop weight quickly. Even on a general diet that will happen if bulking prior. You probably want to get a macro estimate and then adjust. Dairy may also not agree with you fully.

    • @watermelonpinapple8618
      @watermelonpinapple8618 Месяц назад

      @@REVIVALFitness just curious. If I eat as much as I want? Maybe reduce the dairy to 1-2 per week. Will I drop fat naturally? Just beef, butter, chicken, salt. I saw this guy on yt. He does carnivore. 170lbs 4k calories avg only burns 200 with gym. He ended the month 168lbs. (He eats like that all the time, he just tracked ever for a month)

  • @thund3rlord181
    @thund3rlord181 Месяц назад +2

    Hey I like your videos and stuff but just wanted to ask why you have an interview with Bart Kay who's a con man who claims to be a professor(despite just being a senior lecturer) and has several degrees yet has very little evidence to show for it, just seems like someone like you tries to call out the bs might have needed to take a better look. But you still make pretty good content

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад

      Do you have evidence that he doesn’t have those qualifications?

    • @thund3rlord181
      @thund3rlord181 Месяц назад

      @@REVIVALFitness He also threatened to sue the last guy that pointed this out so

  • @RahStheticz
    @RahStheticz Месяц назад

    My elbows are f*_ked from weighted pull-ups

    • @AMG-ko3gt
      @AMG-ko3gt Месяц назад

      Bruhhhhh I just did weighted pullups awhile ago. Idk if your elbows are suffering from overuse. I remember when I went overboard with greasing the groove on pullups, I felt elbow pain (possibly golfer's elbow).

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад

      Mine seem to get irritated the most on certain tricep exercises

    • @marzukkhan3396
      @marzukkhan3396 Месяц назад

      Switch up the grips to prevent overuse, do very light and high speed band work to alleviate tendonitis

    • @RahStheticz
      @RahStheticz Месяц назад

      @marzukkhan3396 not overuse injury, stopped doing pull-ups for nearly a year and came back to it. Still there.

  • @raffc
    @raffc Месяц назад

    yea always keeping your scapula in retraction for any upper body movement is the dumbest cue for bodybuilding, literally fighting your bodys natural movement pattern just to slap more weight on the bar and barely feel the targeted muscle

  • @VargVikernes1488
    @VargVikernes1488 Месяц назад

    "Retracting the shoulder blades" is probably the worst bench press cue out there. I don't even understand how can it ever lead to a good technique?

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +1

      The intention is to stabilize the back and prevent internal rotation of the shoulders, but it doesn’t practically work that way without the other issues

    • @VargVikernes1488
      @VargVikernes1488 Месяц назад

      @@REVIVALFitness they probably didn't expect people to be autistic enough to keep the retracted (not depressed) position throughout the whole movement like I always did, LOL.

  • @nfrankiksa4596
    @nfrankiksa4596 Месяц назад

    bro I just hurt my shoulder like 2 days ago lmao, do you read minds

  • @JP5466
    @JP5466 Месяц назад +24

    Your body and joints have a limited shelf life. Shoulders are involved in almost every upper body exercise, even in leg movements they're stabilizers. There comes a point with age and years of wear and tear where your shoulders start hurting. It sucks, but that's the reality. Young trainers have no hindsight and always think it won't happen to them, until it happens. You want a pain free, joint functioning life?... don't powerlift or ego train. Everyone I know that did this when they were young is totally F'd up now in one way or another.

    • @CAPNBACK
      @CAPNBACK Месяц назад +2

      False, it’s just wrong

    • @JP5466
      @JP5466 Месяц назад +1

      @@CAPNBACK How old are you?... 25? lol Keep on living and training.

    • @CAPNBACK
      @CAPNBACK Месяц назад +2

      @@JP5466 Gotta be honest with you I read your comment too fast and missed part, that’s my bad. Have a good night sir stay healthy.

    • @chilldoc9638
      @chilldoc9638 Месяц назад

      Different parts of your shoulders are hit in upper body exercises not all of it

    • @JP5466
      @JP5466 Месяц назад +1

      @@chilldoc9638 Doesn't matter, the labrum gets much wear and tear.

  • @Arch_Dornan
    @Arch_Dornan Месяц назад

    Algorithm comment

  • @shranks6560
    @shranks6560 Месяц назад

    why do you stand with your arms jutting out like that? what does it look like below the camera? 🤣

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +3

      I'm silently and slowly wanking the entire video

  • @Blueballedchad
    @Blueballedchad 29 дней назад

    Day 31 of asking you to oil up:

  • @brianbachmeier34
    @brianbachmeier34 Месяц назад

    We're all gonna make it brahs
    👍

  • @ixplain
    @ixplain Месяц назад

    These gym videos are boring bro. Do more Blackpill or Lifestyle content brother.

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +2

      I’ll be doing more reactions coming up

  • @helamanseavey4812
    @helamanseavey4812 Месяц назад

    I dont believe he’s still natty he looks ridiculous

  • @salvatroop7710
    @salvatroop7710 Месяц назад

    First

  • @MyltraGaming
    @MyltraGaming Месяц назад

    21 min and 173 views bro fell off

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +4

      Sad

    • @MyltraGaming
      @MyltraGaming Месяц назад +1

      @@REVIVALFitness i am just joking you deserve more views

    • @REVIVALFitness
      @REVIVALFitness  Месяц назад +1

      This type of content never gets a lot of views

  • @rrhyme
    @rrhyme Месяц назад

    4:26 just a sneaky bro split attack