The Psychology of Arcane: Jinx Act 2 - Therapist Reacts!
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Your point about Mylo and Claggor being representative of Jinx's negative and positive self talk made me think of the sizes of the dolls. She went to the trouble of making a full-sized Mylo but Claggor is just a small plushie. I think that represents how much more power those negative thoughts (Mylo) have over her psyche than the positive (Claggor).
Damn that's a good observation!
OOOOH love that thanks very well thought out
I would also like to point out that when Jinx is on the bridge seeing Vi and Caitlyn together, you see the form of Mylo grow much bigger behind her, amplifying her negative emotions.
I don't think that Claggor is particularly positive influence on Powder/Jinx, though. From the little that we saw of them, Claggor was mostly a passive presence from her perspective, he didn't bully her but also didn't defend her like Vi. He was just there. And that's why his doll is little, he didn't have a great impact on Jinx beyond her guilt of causing his death.
@@Lightice1 He actually defend her in episode 2 in the gaming zone.
It’s a small detail, but whenever jinx says “make her go away” I think because she sees Caitlyn as a monster, and she wants vi to “make the monsters go away” like she did when they were children.
i like that assessment
It's interesting to me that nobody seems to have noticed that Jinx paints her fingernails both blue and pink. She clearly never let go of her sister. In fact, when she uses Vi's Atlas Gauntlets to drop the silver platter on the dinner table in episode 9, you can see that she painted the fingernails of the gauntlets blue and pink as well. It will be interesting to see if she continues to hang on to Vi this way in season 2 now that she has ostensibly fully embraced the Jinx identity and completely shed any remnants of Powder within her. And if she does continue to do so, would that mean that she still harbors a tiny shred of Powder somewhere deep inside?
Yes I was going to do it but I am waiting on Jinx act 3 for it =) Nice call
That would be nice to see, but current Jinx, has black painted fingernails. I noticed as I was watching the show and was wondering if the stuff and lore (back story of champoins) matched up. The only trace of her childhood still having effect on her, is what she says and the fact that her mini-gun is named Pow-Pow. The childhood nickname Vi have her. And she's always taunting the gun and saying 'she's such a cry baby'.
Arcane is set in the past, so I think Jinx considerably let's go of her attachments. But even then, she's always pranking Vi to get her attention, so there's that 🤔. (My source is from the League of Legends lore 😊)
@@cleo_patra3463 Pretty much.
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In the current lore its stated that "Jinx has an obsession with an pink-haired enforcer from Piltover".
@@cleo_patra3463 in the card game there’s a mode called path of champion where she still clearly seems to want to keep some sort of relationship with vi she still gets pissy at Caitlin whenever she’s involved with vi but otherwise doesn’t go out of her way to harm her.
I noticed the nails too and actually got them painted to resemble her!
I also want to say that Jinx's negative self talk and PTSD definitely takes away from the fact that Jinx understands what's in the notebook. The notebook of the master engineer who studied in school for years. Jinx didn't receive an education, but she was still able to understand the contents of the notebook. Jinx is incredibly smart and intuitive and probably has an incredibly high IQ. Makes you wonder what she could've done with her life if she was raised like Caitlin or Jace.
Right? And the fact she was making mostly working machines at a very young age from scraps and garbage lying around in Zaun is also a testament of a precocious intellect. She's a bloody genius, and if she was born and raised in Piltover, no doubt her talent would have been noticed and she would have been a student of the academy, hailed a genius just like Jayce or Viktor.
I believe she would have schizophrenia anyway but maybe they could help her
Nah makes you wonder what she would have done if that situation never happened her and ekko most likely would probably have tried to attend the school in the mere future as inventors like jace and probably would of made stuff to better improve zaun
@@snowlily6601 Without the string of events that destroyed their lives...yeah, it's interesting to imagine what could have been if Powder, Ekko and Vi grew up in Zaun, what they would have done of their adult life.
Even during the burglary, she recognised the maker of the clockwork orrery.
18:05 Another thing that happens during the reunion scene is that Vi tells Jinx that she got arrested and Jinx says "Marcus?!" in response, realizing that it was Marcus who took her sister away from her, which is most certainly why she kills Marcus shortly after that. In episode 9 when Silco talks about how the late sheriff "had his uses", Sevika responds by saying: "Too bad Jinx didn't think so". Killing Marcus was very much NOT on Silco's agenda but from Jinx' perspective, Marcus took her sister away, and she was going to make him pay for that sooner or later.
Like your idea, but she most definitely didn't care who she killed on the bridge, I don't even know if she care about not hurting Vi at that point
@@ItsJoeHut She does care what are you talking about… she hasn’t tried to kill Vi and killed Silco to protect her
@@HazelAmarie she was shooting at both Vi and Caitlyn when she saw Vi was helping Cait. This ties back to episode 4 where she's losing control of herself. Which also makes the ending more suspenseful; because we wouldn't have known who she aimed at. Silco or Vi? Because in those moments she could only react blindly. Which makes me believe if Vi was the one that's gonna shoot Silco, Jinx would've killed Vi instead.
That's a cool little nugget. I do think she cared about who she killed. Every enforcer (beside Caitlin) and Marcus died , Caitlin and ekko came away relatively ok so I think jinx was extremely selective with who was targeted.
In addition when she shoots to me they're just warning shots at perceived taunts from Caitlin. From everywhere we know about her aim she could have easily killed Caitlin at that point if she wanted to.
@@keith9864 I see. Yeah she might be shooting at them intentionally knowing that Vi would push Caitlyn away and thus separating them. More of a "get away from my sister" warning.
And yeah you're right that she was targetting every other enforcers and Marcus, because those butterflies didn't land on Cait or Ekko.
It's the fact that you, a professional therapist, could actually break down the human emotions represented in a CG show based loosely on a popular game franchise is a testament to the impeccable writings as well as the skillful animators that actually bring them to life.
I'm just now counting the days until you give a TED Talk on human emotions and how they're represented in pop culture. You can even use this series as a nice backbone to that lecture!
that would be wonderful
I was about to make a similar comment on how masterful the animation was that they conveyed enough human emotion to be 'read' by a professional therapist and in a way that is coherent, logical, and consistent.
@@GeorgiaDow Hi, I want to ask you something about Jinx, I was wondering if she has ADHD? 😅
@@normalzman661 Georgia said in the video she doesn't feel comfortable diagnosing Jinx, since she can't talk to the character.
@@shadowkat678 ou, I see, thanks 😊
By the way, Jinx's memory of Vi calling her a jinx sounds completely different from the original one, it's louder, sounds frightened and in agony, and those are actually Jinx's feelings towards it, in my own inner monologue when I replay the way someone said something some of my own feelings and tones will end up slipping through too
From what I remember of my psych course, when you pull memories out of long term storage, you're actually opening them in a read/write state, not just a read state.
@@bthsr7113 guess that's why over time memories get changed and distorted from the truth, interesting
Not enough people are talking about the effort she puts into her cosplay every vid. Bravo 👏
It's one of the things I look forward to most each vid
Fr she be looking good
Honestly, I just want a solid three minutes of Jinx vibing to her favorite song while working on her projects.
me too
hear me out: a full, FULL Get Jinxed mv with jinx either vibing or an edit.
Honestly, I'd be down for it
An then literally 10 hour version of that... it'd be awesome to have Jinx in her element, working on her stuff on a secondary monitor while I'm working on my stuff. That would be awesome!
Low-fi beats to psychologically self-destruct to
I’d like a Vander vs Silco video on fatherhood, and whether Vander’s focus on Vi might have had a negative affect on Jinx.
yes that would be a good idea
I feel bad for that, since I think he had his hands so full with Vi simply because she was the one looking for trouble and dragging the others along, that he was hoping when he gave his lessons to Vi, shed pass them on to the others, especially Powder. But lets not forget all 4 kids were adopted by him.
I would love to see that!
@@Orapac4142 sure it wasn't five? Ekko was in that group when he came downstairs in The Last Drop after the Enforcers searched it. Then again...
@@GeorgiaDow When I came to think about it... Powder is a really bad name. It's associated with something weak. Even Jinx is a better one because it indicates something that at least can defend itself.
Did you notice what Jinx was doing in the "Chuck the bartender" scene. This was showing that Jinx knows how Silco's underlings see her, and she puts on an exaggerated "crazy person" mask to promote this idea and enhance her reputation of being feared. She was basically play-acting an over-the-top version of herself to boost her street cred. Plus, she just enjoys messing with people.
In episode 7 first scene with Jinx you actually hear Mylo say to Jinx: "You lost her?!"
with Jinx resonding: "I didn't lose her, they took her"
Mylo: "She cares about the enforcer you saw it"
Jinx: "She was there for me, not the enforcer"
Mylo: "Remember her name?"
Jinx: "Why would I remember her name? She's just some stupid topsider.... Caitlyn"
Is there a video with subtitles? Cause I always struggle to hear what Mylo's saying in her hallucinations.
I disagreed with Jinx in the finale, when she said that Silco thinks he created Jinx but in reality it was Vi...I think it was Mylo. Not exclusively, of course, but of any individual person whose interactions caused damage to her, I think it's clear that Mylo had the most impact.
Her recollections that cause her torment and trauma arent showing shades of Vi, or Claggor. They almost exclusively show Mylo. Even the things that don't make much logical sense to tie to Mylo, like her fear of abandonment, he is still there. He made her feel so awful about aspects of herself that everything she hates about herself, she subconsciously represents as Mylo. More than anyone else, Mylo made Jinx (and not just the name).
It's interesting (and juicy in a dramatic way) that we start to see a shift toward Caitlyn being demonized more in her head as she convinces herself Vi replaced Powder with Caitlyn. She had no issue sharing affection as a child, but then again considering what she's gone through and the fact that her fear of abandonment had spent years being honed like a razor blade by Silco, I probably shouldn't be surprised at how quickly she would villainize a perceived threat.
Also, LOVE THE OUTFIT!
I don't thinks it's currect to assign blame to a single person or factor for Jinx's mental illness. It's really everything.
Mylo is the entirely negative voice in her head. He never had anything positive to say to her, so it's no surprise that he's the voice of her negative talk. Vi is a mixed voice. Both the positive enforcement that kept her going. And the face of her abandonment issues. Vi is a much more important figure to her, but I think that for a while she was trying to hide Vi away, because she was too painful to deal with. She had Vi's doll closed off in a box with the flare. As a symbol of hope that she was scared to try for. While Mylo and Claggor's dolls were out in the open. Vi is much more of an influence on her than Mylo is. Mylo is the voice of all her negativity and doubt. Vi is family and hope and abandonment.
Dont forget, thats just how she sees the birth of Jinx, and shes not exactly in a great spot. Honestly I think it was a mixture of all 3 in different ways. Mylos part in it was his constant belittling of her to become the cruel voices always poking at her. Vis part was, as she said, the part that helped her keep going and picking her up when was down and all that. But Silcos part? It wasnt to do his "hard won lessons" at all, but the fact that he enabled and encouraged violent tendencies, fed into her abandonment issues because of his own issues and his projection onto her, turning her into a child soldier and really making her a darker parody of powder, turning her from a (relatively) well meaning child inventor to the monstrous one she is now.
I also think its sort of telling she doesnt outwardly say Mylo or Silco had a role to play for a couple reasons. For Mylo, its because she doesnt want to give him credit or power over her. For Silco, I think its because she doesnt want to blame him for something she knows her sister wouldnt like. But when shes saying Vi did it, shes trying to phrase the whole becoming Jinx thing and Vis role as something good; she helped her survive the undercity even when she was gone, helped her see the colours in life, kept her safe still.
@@jascrandom9855 wholeheartedly agree (pretty sure I started off saying that...if not, I meant to!), but there are varying degrees of "guilt", so to speak, for their contributions to Jinx's self esteem and insecurities that led to her downward spiral. I think that, while Jinx says Vi is chiefly to blame, Mylo is in fact king of that mountain
@@Orapac4142 All of this is gold. I love it. It's super interesting how my mind immediately went to "this must be an accusation" when she said Vi made Jinx, when it could just as easily be a commendation when you consider what you said about how she viewed Vi's influence. I can't stress enough how much I loved this show.
I think in the scene where she meets Vi Jinx also asks "Are you real?" because in the previous scene she mistook the pink haired girl for Vi and she is so used to seeing Vi in places and people even if she's not there that when Vi shows in front of her she believes it's her mind playing tricks on her again.
There's one thing that picks my interest and I've written this in another video but here I write it again.
You know, there are crows everywhere in Arcane. Jinx keeps shooting them, there are a "murder" of crows in the background during the scene where she kidnaps everyone for the table scene. Crows are a symbol of change and adaptability in literature. She keeps shooting them in previous acts, resisting change. She proves this resistance by lighting up the flare Vi gave her years ago, proving that even after all those years all she wanted was her sister to find her. In the table scene, though, the crows are all gathered on the roof of the building as if waiting for it to happen. Finally, she sits at the "Jinx" chair, which is decorated with the crow feathers she collected from the ones she shot. She finally accepts change, as Jinx, and the hope of getting Powder back is gone.
I feel like the mere presence of crows and how she deals with them represents her inner struggle with changing, being a different person from how her sister used to see her, and accepting that change in the end.
What do you think about this?
I thought that the crows represented bad luck and were the harbingers of misfortune as every time they showed up something bad happened. I have two takes on the scene where Jinx shoots one. First, is that she acknowledges this kind of superstition, and she doesn't want it to be true as she came to this place to battle her insecurities so she doesn't want to mess up. She shoots the crow as the sign of 'nah, I won't let the situation screw up this time, it's too important'. My other take is that she sees herself as the harbinger of misfortune as well, as a 'jinx', and shooting the crow represents her self-loathing for all the trouble she have done.
But I like your interpretation as well!
@@amaranth7612 that one too! I know crows are seen as a sign of bad omen and wherever jinx goes there is death etc, but there must be more to it regarding the way she interacts with them, that's what I thought at least. She sits on jinx chair which was heavily decorated with crow feathers, that was very intentional, for example.
@@Raven_Black_252 apparently it relates to a champion in League of Legends but I didn't want to spoil myself and I don't play it.
thanks !!
While this is a good reading, and crows might be playing dual use, crows are a symbol of Noxus who come into play later in the series and might just be there laying the groundwork for Noxus gathering information
I think she's actually HEARING Mylo and Claggor talk to her, that's why in the end scene she shoots the Mylo doll and tells it to shut up.
The Flare scene was also my absolute favorite scene of the entire series, and the music couldn't be more perfect. The fact the Mylo and Clagger were there with her kinda shows in that moment she was putting EVERYTHING she was out there to try to find Vi. This was Jinx at her most vulnerable, and thats why her reaction was so strong when Caitlyn came up the ladder.
Jinx act 3 happening
I actually think she is hearing voices, during the scene when she is stapling her leg you can hear Mylo's voice asking: "Who was the enforcer?" or something of that like.
yes it is
@@GeorgiaDow Yes. If you actually turn on the CC it actually has subtitles of what he is saying to Jinx in this scene.
@@GeorgiaDow Hey Georgia, I wanted to restate my understanding of DID, I thought Jinx was suffering from DID because I was comparing her to Anakin/Vader. I then recalled Golum/Smeagol from lotr/The Hobbit and understand that he has more DID than Jinx or Anakin does. The commonality that all 3 had is that they underwent some severe trauma in their lives, for Jinx it was killing her family, Anakin killing his wife, Smeagol was killing his friend Deagol; now they all created an alternate persona or changed their personalities to cope with the trauma that they went through, but Golum/Smeagol has actual DID due to the fact that there was still a core personality (Smeagol) that is who he is and the alternate personality (Golum) that is evil that is designed to be a coping mechanism to help with the trauma and isolation. Vader and Jinx on the other hand don't have alternate personalities; it's just their core personalities that has under gone some radical change but no development of an alternate personality.
Something I found very interesting in Act 2 was her reaction to Silco thinking she was weak. She decided to prove him wrong by going back through the Act 1 events. Only this time she gets them right. Blows up a building, contains none of her people, only enemies. It’s also very pointedly not an accident like the first heist, which she completes to perfection.
She “fixed” her childhood failures to remind herself and show Silco that she’s not weak and scared anymore.
I would absolutely love to see a reaction of how little Jinx struggles with her psyche when she's with Silco,
In the scenes of the two of them alone she barely if almost not at all sees or hears anything. She's there and present and what that could mean beyond how comfortable she is around him.
Yes! and we all know that he is not the best for her, but he almost keeps her grounded in a way. He understands/gets to her in a way that Vi will never be able to do. Silco's bond/hold on her is unhealthy, but we all know that he has abandonment/trauma issues too, so I cant blame him. Jinx's emotions run her all the time.... she's very quick to act on something and not think about the things she's doing yk.
thank you
@@bellal320 yes, thats what i want people to understand him that why he lied to her about Vi being back for the crystal not for her but silco has really abondonment issues and he's such a complex character
@@csnichcain5031 he did not lie to her. from his point of view she made a deal with the enforcers for her freedom. and tbh she did make a deal, cait freed her in exchange to help find the one responsible for the bombing. and in the end she did give up her sister to the council.
So I guess silco was right all along :)
@@bellal320 He understands her because he molded her since Vi’s been gone.
Vi’s not going to understand her sister is a mass terrorist just after being released from prison nor should she be expected to.
I love how your outfits match the character you’re discussing! Such an interesting nuance to every video. 🥰
thanks this one may have been over the top but I had to
@@GeorgiaDow no I absolutely love it! this arcane series has been so interesting - thank you for sharing your knowledge with us all!
@@GeorgiaDow I think it works really well, you manage to draw out just enough imagery of the characters youve been doing without making it distracting. Though with Jayce, you're going to need to have a 5 oclock shadow glued on, and a sledge hammer in the background lol.
When she did Viktor if only she had a puzzle cube to solve in the background haha
@@Orapac4142 exactly! it’s a lovely subtle detail which I look forward to each video - especially between acts!
I’ve talked my therapist into watching arcane, she haven’t watched it yet but im wondering as you’re both therapist - did you see and figure out all of these emotions and triggers with the first watch or did you have to repeat it?
I watched it more than once and then went over the scenes again to ensure I was accurate on the emotions. Wasn't something I wanted to be incorrect with =)
That is fair, wanting to verrify your information before putting it up for the world to see is good idea.
I talked my therapist into watching it too LOL
I too told my therapist to watch arcane LMFAO
my therapist is on a 6 month break rn so I can’t recommend it 😔 I guess I was too exhausting for her lmao
I already graduated from psychology a couple of years ago but I mostly work with kids with SN, watched arcane like 4 times already and God knows I'll keep watching it, I'm SO happy I found your channel because I really needed to confirm stuff I was noticing while watching but wow, your approach is amazing and I love all your outfits. Looking forward to all your next videos!
thank you and thank you for the wonderful work you do with kids
I wanna add something, when you were talking about how Jinx was fighting the bossing machine.. Her score being 2nd to Vi is ALSO how she has always seen herself and how she perceived Vi to see her. Also all the attempts at the end from the boys :’)
Shoutout to the animators for this. They did such detailed and emotional animations without motion-capture.
21:43 If watch this show with subtitles on, there are several scenes in episode 7 where Mylo has subtitles which makes it a lot clearer on what she's hearing him say to her. Mylo has always been the critical voice in her life, and he remains so even after his death. To Jinx, he's still there just like Claggor and Vi were still there in her mind.
There's also a lot more Mylo shaped halucinations
But since he's dead she can't point it at him at instead at a person who's actually alive
I think one of the saddest things is Jinx asking Vi if shes real. I feel so bad for her right there.
Also I only just recently noticed that Jinx has the same mismatched Gold and Silver metal covers on their boot tips lol.
i didnt notice that a sweet nod
What I think is interesting that a lot of people haven't brushed on is in "The Boy Savior" (ep 7) Jinx specifically shoots between Vi and Caitlyn on the bridge almost to force them away from each other rather than to do harm. If you watch the bullets go right down the middle, not on the right side where Caitlyn was. If Jinx really was targeting Caitlyn to kill her, she would've shot on her side. This is revisited in "The Monster You Created" (Ep 9) where Jinx wants Vi to get rid of Caitlyn. Jinx wants Vi to pick her over Caitlyn, not force it per say physically through her hands. Might also have something to do with how Vi reacted when she accidently killed Mylo and Claggor.
It's also interesting that's it's not really talked about how Jinx had the shot on Ekko but didn't take it. It could be argued it happened too fast, but if you think about her reaction time in other scenes she would've either landed the shot, dodged, or continued to fire. You can see this reaction in her face just briefly when he dodges it which either snaps her out of the trance she was in of when they were kids and made the situation of potentially killing her friend real to her, or something else.
It wasn't until she had this facial reaction and a guaranteed shot on Ekko where she stopped firing. She traced his jump and had him targeted centerfold the entire time. Makes me wonder if she was more taken back that he adjusted from when they were kids, or if she, just like Ekko, couldn't "pull the trigger" for the final blow. Jinx, to me, was actually was the first one to display restraint or incapable of killing off a childhood friend, which was then mirrored by Ekko.
I might be completely off though lol
Loving all these react videos giving an even deeper dive into the characters. Can't wait to see more!
I was thinking the same. It really shows when Jinx is targeting someone to kill and when it is to just scare away. And when she shots to kill, most of the times it ends up dead.
Fun fact I learned like a week ago is in episode 6 while Silco has a meeting you can see an ashtray Jinx decorated and barely make out the word “Dad” on it.
Oh wonderful detail
I adored this show but had not considered any of the depth you've been providing with these videos. This superpower you have to read into humans even animated ones is wildly impressive.
Thanks for all the insight.
Aww thanks =) "my superpower"
While yes she is indeed amazing, I think its just as amazing that they can animate those micro expressions, to the point where a therapist can actually analyze it.
@@DarkHarlequin and don't forget you have more studying to pass an exam to get a licence
@@DarkHarlequin Getting Dr Strange vibes here :D
Throughout the series. Any time we see her schizophrenic aspects "talking" to her. We only hear something akin to white noise in the background. That is until E7. After her reunion with Vi and she is at her table to staple her leg wound then for the first and only time we can actually hear Mylos voice berating her for losing Vi at the end of the battle with the fire lights, and echoing and emphasizing Powders own fears and doubts about Vi's relationship with Caitlyn.
Side note. The Mylo aspect is the one most often seen. And appears to be equal in size and strength to the Claggor aspect. That is until the lighting of the flare. In the scene in which Powder is holding the flare and we see the ghostly image of Mylo and Clagger at her back. The ghost of Mylo appears to be in agony while Clagger appears stoic. I took this as an affirmation that Powder was finally reaching a point in which she could release her guilt and shame over the events that caused he initial schism. That with Vi back in her life Powder at that moment could have finally been free from the cage she was trapped in. In fact throughout the whole series. Right until the moment she killed Silco. It was still mostly Powder. At least it was Powders ID that was the dominant personality. Jinx was the name of the cage. The ID that Powder built around herself to shield her mentally from the damage she caused the night of Vander, Mylo and Claggers deaths.
It’s after her toxic baptism that we see her schizo typical personality go full schizophrenia, although as pointed out she is at around the age when schizophrenia tends to express.
Yh I loved the scene where she figures it out. Proves that her power always lay in her brains not her brawn like Vi. Something that is unique to her not just her trying to live up to her sister.
I mean then she uses it to kill people and possibly start a war but at least she's feeling a bit better about her self. 🤷
yes her journey of who she is as a person
yep
I like that scene too. I think what is important is that this happened after Silco "baptises" her and tells her to essentially let her fears die and accept who she is. Before this moment, when she tried to figure out the gemstone she was filled with fear which expressed itself in the forms of those flashbacks. But after, she was in her element with no sense of fear and full of confidence.
@@cfadipe2755 Great catch!!!
Great scene, but sadly she chooses to use it for the people who killed her family and took over her home. It was Vi who encouraged her to use those skills, but sadly it took her many years to learn that lesson. Imagine if she used her weapons to avenge her family instead of fighting for- and loving their killers. What could have been....
*[mini cosplay is amazing as always!]*
thank you !
Something that strikes me is how very quick Jinx (I almost don’t even like calling her that, damn…) is to leave Silco behind and lash out at him, and how quick she is to crave Vi’s affection and approval again. Vi kinda held a surrogate parental role in her young life and I think Silco stands as more of a replacement for Vi, rather than something new, as what she looks for in Silco is very similar to what she looked for in Vi. She is of course very attached to Silco, but I think the nature of that attachment as a psychological placeholder for Vi’s absence and how it causes Vi’s return to cause inherent and automatically heavy strain on her connection with Silco, I think that says something about how unhealthy her bond with Silco is despite being a genuinely loving and caring one. She flips right back to her sister the moment she comes back and the only thing that gets in the way of that initially is her perception of Caitlyn and how it makes her question Vi’s sincerity, but still, the moment Vi returns, she’s automatically the center of Jinx’s world, Silco barely enters the picture.
Actually she does go back to him to talk and he can easily disarm her.
And she also still completes his weapon.
And she wasn't actually going to leave him I think.
It would be like, leave the only person that accepts me for the past or stay with the only person that accepts me and leave the past..
In the end it was leave the past with no one as she fucked up once again.
But she still worked with silco to complete his weapon.
I think you are right for the most part, she never really had vander as a father the same way vi did, so I think silco replaced vi rather than vander from jinx's perspective
I think this is an awesome, well thought out take, even if I disagree with some of it.
If she wrote Silco off as soon as Vi re-entered the scene, I don't think she would have doomed her relationship with Vi after killing Silco by choosing the Jinx chair and firing the weapon. I believe Jinx is co-dependent, violent, volatile and reactionary, and responded in the heat of the moment and in the worst way when the two most important relationships of her life were irreconcilable and at odds. It's an honest to God tragedy, and one of the best character-driven story arcs I've ever had the privilege of experiencing in my life.
@@The_SinisterMister I’m not saying she writes Silco off like that. I did say they still love each other, years of attachment and emotional dependency will do that, but love doesn’t get put on hold, it stays in the mind even when a relationship is severely strained (her embracing Vi in seconds after she turns up if proof of this). Silco’s death mattered to her, but ultimatelt why she turns away from Vi is because Caitlyn (unintentionally) and Silco (intentionally) convince her that Vi won’t be able to stay faithful to her and would inevitably abandon her again (because of this Jinx identity that Silco has also convinced her is perfect and shouldn’t change, even though neither of those are even remotely true and even if they were, Vi still wouldn’t abandon her. It isn’t loyalty or love for Silco that causes Jinx to abandon Vi (Jinx actually instinctively fires at and kills Silco to protect Vi when he tried to shoot her, one of the writers confirmed this).
its so complex isn't it
I’d like to see you do an analysis on Vi as well… we got Vi and Cait together but I’d like to see one individually for both.
Vi especially… her trauma is mostly internal but there are subtle hints showcasing that she’s going to unravel at some point….her breaking point will be coming to full realization of what her sister’s become.
I'm looking forward to Act 3! Especially the moment when Jinx reveals a "Cupcake" to Vi. She had to know the importance of the nickname if she went to the effort of baking that cupcake for effect
Love this episode!
I was hospitalized 3 times in a mental hospital and so much of the stuff you said here I’ve went throw and felt, and is so reassuring to see that it’s something palpable and known “outside” my head by other people, especially by professionals, and not just something no one can understand.
Also, check Doctor House season 6 episode 1 and 2 (broken part 1 and 2) are great psychological episodes on house itself in a mental hospital.
Keep up the great work!!!!!
I hope you are doing better and I aim happy that my work touched you
It also breaks my hearth a little to see the distressed face she makes at 3:34 because I've seen that same face from a couple of friends with schizophrenia when they hallucinatory episodes and it's something I didn't really see pointed out, but I think it's a way to show that she is actually hearing Mylo talking to her. (Also we hear the voices talking to her in episode 7)
Thanks for the mention early in the vid that panic attacks can actually last a while and aren't just a 5 minute thing. I'm gonna send this to a friend that didn't believe me when I told him I had one for almost an hour and needed to go to the store during it. Also, cosplays are getting better and better
yes they can and thanks for appreciating the cosplays they are as much fun as the videos
I can definitely see you doing a future Arcane video on Mel. Obviously Vi and Jinx are the stars of the show, and Silco is a wonderful villian. They get the most focus, rightfully so. Mel is also a pretty interesting character. She became a more interesting character after we learned more about her mother. Her mother. Yikes...
My mother had schizophrenia. Her experiences greatly impacted my life. To me, the reason why Jinx is so reactive is that she lacks object constancy -- the trauma brought about by neglect and post-traumatic stress has made it impossible for her to integrate both the good and bad sides of a person. Be it Silco or Vi, as soon as someone displays the slightest hint of betrayal she chooses to lash out and obliterate whoever that may be.
Great analysis as always, Georgia! And I love the cosplay :)
I also noticed how Jinx records her score on the boxing machine as 'Pow' instead of Jinx, it didn't look like she input anything but it felt purposeful from the writers
You reveal and share so much emotion. Your analysis is lovely, but I just want to thank you for your openness and courage.
Thank you very much for accepting me as me =)
"Jinx you got it wrong. She got me out of prison for a trade. Me to get back to you, and her the gemstone"
"OH really"
Communication is key
I love these videos so much, a lot of what you say seems to be stuff subconsciously recognized when watching the show, but you put it into words so beautifully how and why the characters react the way they do.
Thank you for such a thoughtful comment
yesss I love these videos, the writers deserve all the praise for writing such amazing characters
they really do
@@GeorgiaDow I still find it amazing that the lead writers never wrote a script or anything like this before in their lives.
I love your characters description, they are incredibly spot on 😁. I would like to leave my personal opinion on Vander and Silco if that’s okay. My personal opinion on them is that they both shared the same dream for the underground but Vander realized that what they were doing is not creating a better future but repeating the cycle at the cost of change that is what he thought when he saw VI and Powder when they were kids that his actions cost them their family and any more it will cost them as well. Vander wanted VI to realized that as well so she can be better because the young can change the future to be better. Silco however came to realize that as well when rising Jinx that she can continue what he wanted, to do better than him. That’s what I think about Vander and Silco ideology but came to realize the cost of their actions and the potential of the future 🤔
thank you for this
@@GeorgiaDow and thank you for your time ☺️
Good analysis, but I don't think it's about Vander realising the cycle being repeated.
Imho Vander saw the cost of their revolution, the price of true freedom and was unwilling to pay it. Silco is willing to pay whatever price is required to be free of Piltover. It's the age old question of does the end justify the means. Silco believes it does. I don't think he's evil, but just set on his goal - a free Zaun, free of Piltover. To do this, he needs power, which means he's willing to do anything (child exploitation, the bit where he says he would have killed the woman's son for betraying him, drug supply) to achieve it, because it may be bad, but it's for the greater good. He's willing to head into the abyss in order to achieve his aims. Vander stares at the abyss and blinks. He views the lives being lost as too high a price, that being alive but living in terrible conditions is better than sacrificing lives for freedom.
Silco wants to be free of Piltover, he needs power to achieve that aim. But it doesn't drive him in itself, he views power as a means to an end. If all he sought was power and wealth, he already has it. For me the telling scene is the one with the other gang bosses in the penthouse, where they bring in the dirty air. The other bosses have used their power to give themselves a nice life, clean air - and they all choke when the contaminated air comes in. Silco doesn't. He hasn't allowed himself to forget, to become weak. If he was motivated by power, he wouldn't have been breathing the dirty air as a reminder. For him, any hardship, any cost is acceptable - at least until the cost becomes Jinx.
At least that's my interpretation.
Georgia Dow,
I'd love to see more about Silco, him and Jinx are by far the most nuanced characters and I think he isn't really a villain, just someone who is "willing to do the things others aren't" in order to achieve his goal - being free of Piltover.
Someone on tumblr pointed out that Jinx’s tattoos of rolling blue clouds could have been subconscious choices of Powder crying out for her sister all these years, because the flare has blue smoke clouds
i love all your analyses so much. i would be interested in an analysis of sevika next if youd like! i think there is some interesting material there
I really do like Sevika a lot
I'm surprised that nobody has noticed that the first time Jinx looks at who she thought was Vi, it actually looks like Vi. Notice the face structure. In the second shot though, wrong-Vi has a different face structure. Our brain tends to trick us in that way. It's amazing just how much the animators pay attention to detail.
When Vi and Jinx reunited, the scene really hit me like a truck. I know what it's like to be abandoned by someone you really care about. I've had so many dreams and nightmares about the person that reality and fiction started to blend. I know the feeling of thinking you recognize someone because they look like that person who abandoned you. The line "Are you real?" is such a genuine question, because once you see this distorted version of someone for so long, the real version is jarring to see again. Especially when they're so different to what you think you know. The Vi that Jinx believes in is cruel and heartless. She abandoned Jinx so she believes she doesn't love her anymore. So when she sees the real Vi, it doesn't seem real. This Vi embraces her and clearly still loves her. This is the Vi from when Jinx was still Powder, the one who seemed to die with Mylo and Claggor. Combined with her hallucinations, Jinx has no reason to believe in any of this. And sadly, the part that makes her realize this is real is Caitlin's entrance, because it assures her that what Sevika said is true.
There's also Vi's perspective, who had this vision of Powder in her head for all this time. And when she finally sees Powder again, she's looking at a different person. Jinx. And when she sees that she just freezes and watches her, which in turn allows her to be captured.
I still remember watching this with my friends in my dorm for the first time. We were binge watching the whole series and we got to this scene. I had to leave the room because it was so emotional for me. Incredible job on everyone's part when making this, it still blows my mind how real this scene was.
Also I've really been loving the arcane videos, keep up the great work!!
I'm really glad my obsession with arcane gifted me your channel.
I have binged lots of your video, so enjoy able and helpful
I really appreciate your analysis of jinx, many of her traits
I find in myself seeing them in someone else's even a fictional character help me see the question I need to ask my therapist so thank you for that.
I can't forget to say thank you for your hard work and effort with all your video & with the mini cosplays, the time it would take.
Ps, don't know if you have thought about this but a discord for your patreon peep could be fun, just some food for thought 😁.
I hope you have a wonderful day
thanks =) and I will look into it
@@GeorgiaDow Sweet, and I cant want for season 2 and all the things to come.
Crying awaits 🥲😅
I'm convinced you'll actually become an Arcane character by the end of this series 😂🙌 love the cosplays
Ha thanks
Something that I noticed about the fight between Jinx and Ekko. How Ekko used the game that he played with Powder as a child to gain an advantage with there fight on the bridge. I really think the game was Ekkos successful attempt at baiting Jinx into a pattern he was most familiar in fighting her with.
When we usually see Jinx in control and focused in a fight, we see her aggressively dominating multiple people by keeping them away with her mini gun (which she does both physically and emotionally), crippling people using her explosions, and taking out any main threats using her pistol and amazing reflexes. Shes even able to take immediate reactions on order to take out incoming projectiles with it in a blink on the eye. So how was Ekko able to still beat Jinx when she had such an advantage?
It was the game. Ekko use the game, something that had specific rules and familiarity with the both of them, to fall into a familiar pattern of attack that Jinx took as a kid. And for anyone who knows Ekko, he uses his past experience and learns to make changes to get a successful outcome. He made it so that Jinx would likely fire off in a pattern he was already familiar with, and adjusted himself in order to take the win.
really like this assessment. yes it gave him control of the situation
What I found interesting about the way jinx hear the voices is that neither vander nor vi are actually part of her common hallucinations, vander didn't quite die because of her explosion directly and she still feel he was his father and never said anything mean to her, as for vi, she isn't dead so not a ghost, even if jinx doesn't know she is alive, she doesn't know for sure.
I also like the fact it shows jinx might be "crazy" but she isn't stupid, she one very ingenious and she was never going to be as good as vi fighting, she was a shooter.
Both sevika and silco know jinx for years and know when not to lie to her or play the "what do you mean?" Card
also keep in mind that jinx, throughout the 2nd and 3rd acts, is estimated to be around 15-19, so she could still very well be a child
If you ever got the chance, I would love to hear your thoughts on ekko! He lost Benzo and all his friends at once. Then kinda grows up to be this awesome leader taking care of his people. Building a safe haven for them.
watching her just breaks my heart, all I see is the broken painful child that needed help and love
Weirdly enough 2:08 that deer in headlights uncontrollable shooting reminds me of the first confrontation with the Predator in the 1987 movie, you have all these seasoned soldiers on top of their game, they saw everything they went through hell and back and nothing can surprise them anymore, and then they just break... in that movie it's a perfect setting to fill the audience with horror.
For Jinx reminders of that massive traumatic event are like that. It was the first time that her toy trap worked. It worked spectacularly as well, finally she could show everyone and especially Vi that she is a valuable part of the team, but in that moment she also learns that she lost everyone and even worse it's because her spectacular trap caused so much damage and then even Vi leaves her again. I can imagine the terror. For her, it's especially brutal because even her biggest triumph just ends up as her biggest loss and defeat. Then she does the same thing in the final episode.
"Filtered through the facets of our fear" that is just poetry and it's amazing
Aww thanks !
I love your videos about Jinx, I identify with her a lot so watching these videos helps me cope with my own traumas and issues
I also just love seeing you talk about all this, I can see that you're really invested in it :)
I'm used to seeing a lot of therapist who seem to have lost their passion
thank you.
I love your comment. If I were involved in the series, that would be the biggest compliment ever 😊
In that second Hextech gem "activation" experiment it looks like she put Vi´s toy to the wall, like she showed her this accomplishment she is about to do. But what i found most interesting in act 2 was that bartender and Jinx scene, while she was questioning him she was drinking the exact same drink and cup with a straw when she was Powder. Like i think she is like a kid trapped in adults body, since she hasnt been able to confront her past.
One thing i have not noticed anyone talk about is "Chuck" the bartender. Jinx insists on calling him Chuck because he is the same kid from the episode 1 kid fight. He was the boy "Chuck" who cornered powder when she threw the stolen loot overboard. I believe the reason he tells her he has a different name is because he is now afraid of her and doesnt want her to make the connection to that fateful day. But jinx cheekily lets him know that she does remember him by setting off the same faulty "pink smoke" grenade on his back that she used "with nails" when they were kids!
Yay, always so happy to see you break down Arcane!
Please keep up this amazing work of yours!
thank you
As always love the video look forward to your next video. I hope you eventually do a stand alone Silco one, I loved the Jinx/Silco one but would like to see one just about him because I love him as a character.
i will do a silco video also
@@GeorgiaDow yess pls
I really wanted you to do one just for Vi or Vander's relationship with Vi
I loved the video
yes I will =)
I mean thier relationship was quite simple, to me at least.
your professional analysis on ANIMATED CHARACTERS not only is an impressive show of your work as a therapist, but a real kudos to the writers of Arcane to have such real characters to be analyzed at different angles, in multiple videos, in such a real way. Just amazing! I love your breakdowns!
Appreciate you
Asa child Jinx (Powder) tries to use the orbs that she found as a bomb to help her family but the power was so great she lost control over it and the explosion killed a lot of her family members, and then in the scene when she's in her element she is working with that same types of orb yet this time she is in control over it and she quite literally conquers that fear of that technology that hurt her in the past and uses it to her advantage.
Jinx is definitely more of the engineer type even when she was a kid she had her (unsuccessful) contraptions she was hoping would help her because she was physically smaller and even as an adult she is very skinny and small compared to a lot of the other characters yet she is feared because she built alternatives to physical force and she's not afraid to use them which is interesting considering her sister relies so much on her physical force and size.
I will also add that Jinx seems to bury many of those doubts brought about by the incident in the 3rd episode after her "baptism" scene with Silco, since we see her more free afterward making the gemstone work for her. We don't see those doubts resurface until Sevika tell her about Vi being back. As shown by the scene contained in the blade. Those seeds mentioned are growing during the reunion with her sister and the introduction of Caitlyn but made worse when she confronts Silco about his involvement in keeping the sisters separated. When he says "she is here for the gemstone, not for you" she hesitates. This may be why Mylo seems to grow in the bridge scene when Jinx sees Vi running back for Caitlyn. Many of her fears are coming true even if only true from her perspective.
Super early to this vid. I'm convinced Jinx has BPD/Schizoaffective disorder. Either way, great vid I'm sure!!
thanks for being here
I've been binging your vids(maybe I miss my counselor) and I adore the cosplay and thought in your monologues to break down the scenes. Great content!
this is the most engaged i’ve ever been in a youtube video. you’re incredibly well-spoken and your analysis is amazing to listen to. looking forward to more
I was waiting for this video since part one! Thank you very much
thanks for being here right away
I love how there is even more details in arcane. Like that you caught the flashes and which person they show and stuff like that. Insanely good this show.
Your Arcane videos have become one of my favorite YT series!
As always: entertaining and insightful! I appreciate you doing these reaction videos. Blessings on your day.
Your videos have really deepened my enjoyment of Arcane,
thank you for letting me know that
This channel is the only psychoanalytical breakdown of these characters I trust on youtube. I really hope she enjoys making these Arcane videos just as much as we enjoy devouring them lol.
i am addicted to these react videos oh my god. you offer such a cool new perspective into the whole series its great
Im so glad you posted another one! I enjoy these so much
thanks happy you liked it
I've been loving your uploads! Arcane is super insightful on character expressions and I've been learning so much from your videos :D
thank you for watching and enjoying
I'm so glad I found your videos. I get so excited when you post. Also, what you were saying at 22:50 just changed my entire future perspective whenever I interact with somebody in a situation where I assume the worst. Seriously, thank you!!
these videos are so nice to watch. not just because i appreciate the informational value of your videos but also because it's really encouraging to see a fully grown adult who's main job isn't RUclips put this much effort into this and visibly enjoy the process. sometimes i worry that the older i get the less acceptable it will be for me to get this invested in shows or games but it's really comforting to see so many different people come together because they love arcane so much. i guess I'm just saying thank you for sharing your expertise and input, it's super exciting to see such detailed analysis
Finally ! That's the one I was expecting the most ! Thank you for your hard work ! Not only it's good content but I also learnt two or three things :D
Wonderful thanks !
Thank you so much for these💗
You are so welcome!
Already stoked for part three, or which ever characture you go next with your videos. woof though, Jinx's final scene/choice ive been dieing to talk about it and these videos fill that.
thanks
My daily dose of Georgia Dow
haha = )
I've been waiting for this video sooooo much and it's all that I expected and more, the first one made cry a loooot and this one it's not the exception, thank you so much 🥺🙏🏻💙✨
Loving these videos! Jinx is such a complex character and hearing your takes on her psychology has been incredibly interesting.
appreciate you
I also think it's interesting that she has the blue cloud tattoos....when vi gave her that blue gas flare to "call for help" so that vi would be able to find her no matter where she was. She has those blue cloud tattoos and it's a blatant cry for help. But notice, it's only on one side. Meaning that she's split between jinx and powder..... interesting
The fact that you held back tears several times throughout your analysis videos of this series makes your videos stand above the rest.
You show that you're human and not just a machine telling us which emotional reaction means what. Please keep up this great work!
thanks I appreciate that you accept my humanity
waited so long~~finally!! Thank you! That’s a wonderful video! wanna watch act 3 too❣️🙆♀️
You mentioned the bunny rabbit teddy representing Vi, yet in that box is also the blue flare that represents the return of her sister. The blue flare with it's billowing blue smoke is SO important that her body is covered in a tattoo of this! A beautifully tragic mirror is Vi's tattoos, predominantly of cogs and schematics - the techie in their group was Powder, not Vi... there is also 2 keys on either side of her spine representing Mylo & Claggor, and also has the billowing blue smoke clouds at the top across her shoulders reinforcing that the tattoos she got in jail means that Powder has been the primary thing on her mind keeping her going!
Oh I love this analysis thanks. The attention to details is wonderful. I read it twice to take it all in. Thank you
@@GeorgiaDow the level of detail is spine-tinglingly phenominal! Glad I could share this detail with you. Thank you for an amazing series and all the efforts you put in to every episode!
I can relate to Jinx the most out of this entire series, I am part of a DID system and see a lot of ourself in her. From the mood swings, to hearing voices, heck even seeing who is speaking. We aren't for sure that she has DID but it wouldn't surprise us, and if she does, it's a better representation than what Hollywood gives of a very serious mental health issue.
i love how in depth your videos are omg
Thank you !
Your videos really show that you have so much compassion for these characters. I really admire that you can understand them without judging them, which alot of people don't often do , even in real life.
I’m not sure how much there would be other than what you’ve done with Vi & Cait but I would love to see one about Vi solo as well! I loved the Vi & Cait ones but would love to see analyses of both characters individually too ❤️ Also I would absolutely love to see one on Mel!!
yeah that would be great :)
I just realized when Jinx is holding the gun towards Vi and says "youre playing me" and Mylo says something to her in her mind and shes said "I'm in no mood" it made me wonder. Where did that speech pattern come from? Vi and Vander didn't talk like that...but Silco does. So it really shows how the scriptwriters took her personal development into account from child to teenager/young adult and how the people around her shape the way she talks and reacts to things.
ahhh! i've been super excited for part two, ive been watching every part of the arcane breakdown series and i love them all so much! i'm quite interested in part three to jinx, since i find that act 3 really stands out about what's really going on in her mind. we finally get to hear mylo's voice in her head and we hear his whispers throughout the episode, and we never heard any of that in act 2, so its quite interesting when analyzing! there is still so much more to expand on regarding jinx's character, i could watch a million breakdowns on her and would still love to see more! keep up the great work, i'm excited for more amazing content!
appreciate you
I love seeing all the outfits you make for these videos! Makes my day.
hahah it was such fun
I'm so glad I found your channel. I've been coming to terms that I have been dealing with depression for many years, so I'm trying to save some money for actual therapy, but until then, its been so healing to watch your videos. You've confirmed so many things that I feel, and all while enjoying the same kinds of things I love like Arcane. Every time I see a new video, I immediately save it for after work as a personal treat before bed. Idk if you'll ever see this, but please know you're appreciated and cherished. Thanks for everything you do! ❤
If you qualify for medicaid, you could likely get therapy fully covered!
Oh Roxanne your words touch me and I am happy you find the videos healing> means so much to me that you find my videos a treat and they make your days brighter. Thank you for this heart warming words I see you and am thankful you are a part of my community.