A Hunter's Guide to PreRaid BIS in the Burning Crusade | WoW TBC Classic Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Another day, another Hunter's Guide #wowclassic. This time we are covering preraid best in slot for #tbc. Bit of an interesting bis list compared to usual ones as its not really a bis list... kind of.
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A few things have come up on the beta that change this list slightly.
The main one being fist weapons becoming the best option for preraid bis because of Adamantite Weightstone. This did change throughout the beta though, so who knows if it will change again. Currently though, fist weapons are the best option for preraid bis if you're going to be using Adamantite Weightstones on them.
Claw of the Watcher from Shirrak the Dead Watcher in Auchenai Crypts heroic and Stormreaver Warblades from High Botanist Freywin in the Botanica are the best ones.
They are also talking about adding arena rating requirements to the gloves... even for S1 and S2, which is kind of dumb.
Update: Seems Bliz agrees that adding rating req to S1 gear is dumb ... to a degree.
So everything except for Shoulders and Weapons do not require rating so this video is accurate again.
Notes:
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We’re going to use the rating requirements that were originally introduced with The Burning Crusade’s 3rd season, which requires a rating of 2000 for shoulders and 1850 for weapons.
The rest of the gear will have no rating requirements.
When Season 2 launches, we expect to use those same rating requirements for the Season 2 gear, while removing all requirements from the season 1 gear at that time.
Seeing the Aldor ring, should all hunters go Aldor?
yo heard that the axe from blacksmithing is bis for melee weaving till like kaelthas drop is that true?
why u mentioned a few heroic pieces but not foothills pants and BM wrists? because ppl will get the rep later to run those on heroic?
@@clubpenguincheate100 no because it's pre-bis and t4 bis drops at kara.
i did tho for another reason: the shoulder enchant
It's nice that Blizz started to recognize the master race
Just a shame everyone and their pet is going to have a hunter.
@@skolkor cause of the fotm players
@@Shyzenth Keep playing your shitty orc male warrior then LUL
@@YourSweatyUncle better than playing midgets or purple elfs
Masterclass
I like your style chief, keep it up! Looking forward to the Pally and Mage vid!
I just discovered your content today and have binged watched all of your content .... You are my new Hunter Trainer
Happy to have you John!
Legendary video my brother. Getting me so excited for Outland.
definitely want the SRV video, thats what Im goin in TBC
Thanks for the list. I am stoked for TBC!
Watched this twice now. Keep making these. They’re the ssheeett. Please make a phase 1 TBC BIS video.
Great video. I've also watched this twice so far and will probably watch it again when I actually reach 70.
Love every single one of your vids. You're super entertaining. Keep up the great work dude. HMR
i always get chills on that intro
Commenting for the algorithm. Also hoping that we get the SV vid soon. Love your work.
After blizzcon! I want to see if they announce a date for a beta.. I'd hate to make the video, then immediately get a beta where I could have better info and better footage.
@@Bigbobbedboi 100% get it. So much could change depending on how they choose to release it.
Good Job on this vid, bring on that Survival specific :)
Love the vid man!
Decent guide, but I have to say getting hit capped is most important. Most the gear you showed didn't have hit on it. I always go 4/5 beast lords set then get hit capped with the rest of the items. Pretty easy to do hit cap is 142 btw for BM. Cheers!
I just want to say thank you!
Extremely helpful to my nooby self.
Oh the sweet dweet wep breakdown...thats what my lifes been missing! Awesome awesome job
Do you stream?
Yeah man right here on YT! I try to stream at least one a week, but it just depends on how busy I am making videos.
I'll turn on the bell and try to catch you. Really enjoy your content, you cannot be far from just blowing the lid off this with your quality and depth of info. Cant say it enough, thank you.
I hope so man.
Either way, glad to have you here!
That was amazing. Well done.
"Probably tastes good" when talking about sonic spear, i actually laughed out loud
Would love the survival video!
Super helpful guide to help all of us huntards reach our full potential
Been waitin for this. Thank you
Ahhh the ole hourglass. GL to anyone going for it. Ive had 60 runs on some characters and ive gotten it in 1 run. Also probably 70% of dps on servers will be hunters
Damn that's some shitty luck man sorry.
Please do a Survival Hunter pre-raid BiS guide too. I believe many of us will find that useful!
There is no pre-raid bis for Survival. You need to get at least 600 agility for it to be viable.
Would Primalstrike Set be good for a Survival Hunter due to all the extra AGI and AP or should I just go Ebon Netherscale for the crit and gem slots?
subbed. looking forward to a SV video
Yo man i just subbed, great content and loving the deep voice lmao. Im maining rogues sooooo would u mind making a vid about them? Keep it up my man!
Maybe. I might do some other preraid bis videos for classes I really enjoy in tbc. Rogue and War are at the top of the list.
Good video. Hopefully badges are not in at the start. Srv Hunters gear differently than BM or MM looking forward to that video. Get all the Agi. Also hopefully they let us tame GTSG!!!
Great video.
do you remember if the sharpening stones still work for added ranged dps? it's an exploit in private servers.
I love your voice and humor. Keep making videos!
The dude is trying so hard to sound low pitched and sexy, it makes me cringe. Just speak in your natural voice ffs.
Don't forget Natasha's Choker from The Houndmaster quest in Blades Edge.
Any thoughts on a prepatch guide? Talents etc.
shieet, great comedy i chuckled alot while the video was informative as well. Great work.
There's also the leather working pattern for quiver of a 1000 feathers
Great video but you forgot about Melmorta's Twilight Longbow from Black Morass :)
HAHA I smiled through it all. You are amazing. More more more!
Isn’t primal strike set more better than netherscale set? I know that he doesn’t have mp5 but I can use mana potion e.t.c ??
Nice video.
How come you didnt mention weaving when picking between onehanders and twohander?
Great vid. What do you think about felstalker vs ebon netherscale? I'm a sucker for a good set bonus... so wss thinking of combining 3 piece felstalker with 4 piece beast lord
Well, ebon beats felstalker in pretty much every way unless you're going surv, but it's bop so you have to be a LW.
I think the real question here is if it's worth the investment. Felstalker takes 18 primal airs for the set and can be replaced pretty quickly.
That badge by your name is lookin niceeeeeeee!
Awesome video, but where is the full-set comparisons? Like.. what FULL SET is best?
Apparently I will need this set on my hunter
I got the two pieces from the steamvaults in my first run it was crazy
awesome video. drop the survival one also :D
What about weapons before 70? Haven’t had much luck finding info on leveling weaps.
Anyone have a Excel sheet or a Google Docs sheet I could use for this? Love the video!
Another great video =)
idk why but I'm probably most excited about the Sonic Spear out of the initial upgrades.
It looks soooooooo goooood.
After wanting to play ret pally but quickly discovering how weird seal twisting is for a casual andy like me.
My hunter seems like its going to get played mostly along with my mage.
I'll save paladin for Wotlk.
Hunter seems like it has a very straightforward path with gearing too.
What about fist weapons with Adamantite Weightstone?
Isnt the primalstrike LW Set better than Ebon netherscale?
Where do you get the footage of each boss?
Hey what about items from nax. Does any of that carry over well into pre raid for tbc? Like weapons / xbow ?
I checked the Naxx gear in comparison but most Naxx gear is problematic since it is scaled for 1 agi = 2 ap. It rarely has any ap but AP is a way better stat in TBC for hunters compared to classic. But the difference is not that high for most items so you might get away with it playing full T3 in the first raids.
Most Naxx gear falls really close to 70 dungeon blue items.
Although, all our agi mail gets it's stats reworked. I assume they did that so surv hunter isn't wearing all Naxx gear until T5.
@@Bigbobbedboi ranged weps seem to get a buff if you compare a classicdb to a tbcdb. If they correct slavemaker will be preraid bis. Unless the speed messes things up.
keep the naxx ring for surv for an easy option. keep the AQ40 rep ring if its exalted also for surv for an easy one if u already have it. keep badge of the swarmgaurd for both specs
Every time you mention a BC dungeon I think of the dirty names my friends had for them.
Subscribed for the survival vid
Getting so hype for launch. Can’t wait to level and grind these dungeons. I think end game bc is the best of any wow expansion ever.
Wotlk is better But its close
@@doncorleone1720 wotlk is not better cuz when a new raid tier releases old one becomes obsolete, not the case in tbc
@@MegaReinart Yea But who tf cares about this little thing??? Wotlk best By far we all know it and in 2 years you guys will see
Id love a deep dive on survival
Did u ever do the survival video?
Thanks Buddy! Nice Video! Will you go for Engineering and Leatherworking at the beginning? :) Cant wait for your mentioned SV Specc Video, hate to play BM :)
I'm not sure on my profs until they say how drums are gonna be nerfed.
I'm actually now thinking I should do a deep dive into each spec... because MM is overlooked a lot, even by me sometimes. All 3 specs have their place in TBC and I really want to show that off.
@@Bigbobbedboi I think so too, Alone in the sv specc you have so many different possibilitys for PvP its crazy and needs a lot of testing, i Start doing it by myselfe this Week and wait for your Video to compare the experiences:) in anyway, keep up the awsome work!
Love the vids.
And yes, if you could release a video about everything you know about survival that'd be great.
Master class more than a master race. ;-)
Don't forget the Mark of Conquest. This trinket is really good just because of the passive mana return it gives. You get it for 30 of the PvP tokens acquired from killing enemy players at the hellfire fortifications. The trinket is amazing for long fights and also if you are lacking a paladin keeping up blessing of wisdom on the boss. Also means you can focus on chugging dps potions instead of mana potions.
I just got my epic drop at level 69 with 60k exp until 70. Got the epic plate chest off a croc in the eco-dome
Loved the Video! Has the SV video came out yet!?
Not yet, but getting pretty close. Next video is an important hunter one and I will talk some about surv.
Get mark of conquest + Dungeon set
Conquer DPS
While Mark of Conquest wont give you damage and etc
The mana sustain in long fights is incredible, when I played on on pservers my DPS skyrocketed after I acquired mark of conquest
Brutal glad is season 3 though we wont have those gloves for awhile. I'm assuming you meant to show the season 1 gloves?
S4* it's glad, merciless, vengeful, brutal
Your intro's give me goosebumps
What about losing 5’s for a few weeks and getting the arena xbow if there’s no rating requirement?
You could do that for sure. But.. you wont be able to do that for a while.
In original tbc, arena didn't start until 30 days after launch. So 30 days + 3/4 weeks of arena points and you'd probably already have Sunfury by then.
Maybe worth doing on an alt or a character that doesn't raid.
Sonic Spear looks sick
Doooood I know! I wish we got to use it longer.
Beast Lord set is even better then a T4 set because of its set bonuses (armor ignore). Even in SSC hunters were running in beast lords doing omega dmg with that gear :)))
Hey bb, nice guide. Have any plans for making another class pre raid bis?
Maybe, but only classes I know well and am interested in playing in tbc.
My question is, what would you do if you are full T3? is the beastloards still better than that?
Yeah you still want the 4pc set bonus.
loved the video i have always been a hunter in every xpac, tho havent played shadowlands. currently have 4 lvl 60 hunters in classic all with bwl xbow and full t2. 2 are even raiding naxx others were just prof alts. Either way why not include bis section talking about t3 loot? Please do a video comparing p6 bis to tbc pre raid bis items
T3 is like a poor mans pre raid BiS. It’s not actually comparable to most of these items
Going for Survival on BC! Make that video for us and thanks again!
I'm planning on doing a few vids focused on survival.. One where I go over some numbers to see the effects of agi stacking since it's very different in tbc.
The other I want to cover survs control in PvP..... but kinda want to wait for at least beta for that.
Wasn’t survival best later in the expansion? I remember playing beast mastery for a long time, then I logged in one day and survival was king and I remember being pissed I had to learn how to play all over again 😂
@@offkilter9364 it often is because of agility talents scaling well with great gear. Personally, I just want the utility of buffing my melee friends with expose weakness and imp hunters mark
How about the pvp crossbow? You could start working on the marks when the pre patch is released. Its 84.4 speed or is the speed a problem?
You mean the Gladiator's crossbow or High Warlord/Grand Marshal crossbow?
The HWL/GM one you could get it if you wanted it but... there's nothing particularly special about it and you're likely better off using that honor+marks for your epic nonset pieces.
@@Bigbobbedboi The Gladiator ofc. You can get the marks and honor before TBC releases and have it waiting for you at 70. That's my plan anyway.
The Gladiator one will cost arena points, not honor. It moved to honor during season 3 and then season 2 gear moved to honor in season 4. It was like catch up gear.
@@Bigbobbedboi It's only the 5 piece gearset that is arena points during season 1. I'm quite confident about that.
@@dyseskytten1 no. Just no. Arena points
primal strike gear is better than ebon isn't it?
Shiiiet I love your videoes 😀
It’s funny I got the necklace and vendored a quest gives you a better one
Any word on the survival video?
subbed :)
love your video s can you do druids bis slots ??
Thanks man! I will probably do resto druid at some point, not sure about the other specs. I'm not really a feral expert.
Duuuuude defo need surv hunter vid how can you leave us out ;)
some wotlk hunter bis comming?
Bro this is the SHEEIT
I think Girdle of Ferocity is also worth mentioning for the belts from Heroic Shadow Labs.
Nice
Hunters rise!
wolfslayer sniper rifle is all i want in bc
Same
You never mentioned Cloak of the Inciter. Why not?
What about gems ? Since 1 agi gives 1 AP, is it worth it to go for AP gems instead of agi gems ?
This is actually more complicated of a question than you would think. If you're Surv, you still want agi.
For BM and even MM, all the old guides say still go with agi, but no reasoning for why. Crit to agility was rescaled, so now it's 40agi to 1 crit, but you would still expect ap to be more desirable now. They even say to skip the higher ap pvp gems.
The old sims do reflect agi gems being better than ap, so maybe the sims weren't great, idk. With the info we have now, agi all around, but a small chance there were some sim errors and ap gems get a use.
@@Bigbobbedboi Ty vm for your answer
the problem about hunt's pieces is "
06:50 SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIET
When you hit 70 on Friday and get 2 pieces of Beast Lord during the weekend and on Monday afternoon you get invited to a pug Kara group and Thr SunFury Bow of the Phoenix drops and your the only hunter in the group! Hell yeah
26! Runs of shadow labs in 2 days no spear
I completely understand taking Leatherworking if you're in a guild that will require the use of Drums in raids...even if the drums at first are not as good as they became (tbd if Bliz will have drums in their 2.4.3 state at launch). In this situation it's a no brainer and you can work toward your Primalstrike or Ebon Netherscale.
But if drums aren't a guild requirement...is Leatherworking necessary at all for a Hunter? Not sure if I'm reading conflicting information or just too many assumptions...but the gist I've read is that Primalstrike/Ebon just gets replaced by Kara/Gruul (tier 4) gear because the LW crafted set bonuses aren't anything to write home about.
If we can free up a profession slot that's a worthy note imo
Edit: This is not a critique on your video, as you clearly state "if you want" when referencing the crafted LW items. I'm asking for opinions/advice.
Ugh comment accidentally deleted.
Okay so hunters don't use any of the t4 armor set itself as its worse than beastlord. Now regarding off pieces in t4... you could use those instead of ebon absolutely.
Problem is though those pieces are generally what every melee class and bears want too. So a lot of competition on items that aren't abundant drops to begin with. Its another reason ebon is so highly recommended. You'd be competing against hunters who didn't go ebon and against melee for those items. As most are leather pieces they all use.
@@settee_4638 Hunters have higher prio for the dps gears as there's no way melees can reach the dps BM hunters so.
When I see these items, beside the set, I feel like my current items from aq/naxx/bwl are way better
People have asked a lot, I wish I had put in a section comparing vanilla items to TBC. I did on my warrior one and further preraid bis ones I will.
One thing to keep in mind, is all that classic hunter gear will have it's stats rebalanced because of the changes to agi.
If you don't raid beastlord until the end of the game?
I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking.
@@Bigbobbedboi if you don't raid at all it's the ste you use until the end of classic tbc.
Your voice is like the movie premier..
COMING THIS SUMMER TO A MOVIE THEATER NEAR YOU..
So creamy lol..
Hahaha I loved when they used to do that in movie trailers.
Movie trailers nowadays suck.
I was thinking more of a Mitch Hedburg
I have done over 60 runs in SV, but I have never even seen either piece drop even once...
Bruh
I want play Troll hunter.
Yooo that engi gun has a Meta Socket??? Damn aren't there %increase crit damage metas? Might be worth the expense, could be amazing if it lets you have 2x meta gems.
Unfortunately no. Metas are exclusive to helms.
There's a big issue with TBC databases for some reason.. like none of them are complete and a lot of them have errors. I try to get archived tooltips when I can but there's very few.
Yellow gem sockets showing up as meta sockets is only one of the problems they have :[
Sheeeit that's a bummer.
@@Bigbobbedboi I'm pretty sure wowhead will have TBC database ready to go but like most are probably waiting for the definitive announcement of classic TBC