Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! Stihl 2-in-1: amzn.to/3pYRdyb Granberg Bar Mount Manual: amzn.to/3dx6Avt Granberg 12v Bar Mount: amzn.to/2ZxnB0l Oregon Sure Sharp 12v: amzn.to/3sdaBJA Oregon 120V Bench: amzn.to/3udObd3 Chicago Electric 120V Bench: amzn.to/3dATmxA Oregon Field Sharpening Kit: amzn.to/3qEvq09
I've never said it before, so I wanted to leave this here: Thank you very much for having little to no dead time on your videos. You always time your commentary on the comparison you're making just right so you're done before the test finishes. This makes it so that when you're done talking, you're ready to show the next in line, and gives your videos a very dynamic feel.
This guy is the best for comparison tests on you tube that I have seen. No nonsense, no time wasting and no annoying music. We should all send him a few dollars / pounds.
@@ProjectFarm i enjoy alot of your oil testing videos and i always use penzoil i had switched to full platinum synthetic i use to use regular 5w 20 and i was wondering if you could test the difference in the regular penzoil high mileage platinum and the platinum full synthetic and i think there is also just the regular high mileage thankyou for your videos on testing out different products and was wondering if you could test the different grades of penzoil.
It's been incredible to watch you grow over the years! I remember when most everything you tested was either "should you get this cheap thing or the super cheap knockoff?." Not to say that you have gone above the average homeowners budget, it's just that your growth and success has allowed you to test some higher end tools and it's verry appreciated.. A $7 screwdriver is one thing, but when you're testing multiple different products that are $50 to $100 a piece, that's where you're saving us some serious money brother! I agree with everyone else! Protect this man at all costs! For he is the only "Quality Control" person lookin' out for the little guys!! 🤙
Let's all stop for a minute to admire the amount of time and thought it must take for you to not only think of the ideas but to make the tests the video then editing. Thank you!!!
Hell, I'm just admiring the time it takes to sharpen one chain by hand, let along almost a dozen of them several times. I know he shows it only takes 5 minutes or so in the video, but I remember watching my dad spend hours doing that and his end result was that he felt like it didn't help much. I have a feeling he was just buying cheap chains and/or he had a crappy sharpener. Now whenever mine get dull, I just replace them. This video is making me consider getting a good sharpener. It would definitely pay for itself within a year (my use is light). I wonder how well these would work on other materials. I found a chain I really like and it says the blades are made out of titanium. The chips that come off that chain are huge.
@@teddgram i agree on just replacing them. when I know I am going to do some major cutting i just buy a couple/three new chains and have at it. I guess if you're cutting everyday or week it makes more sense to sharpen them. I do use the stihl sharpener when I am in the field cutting though and it does a very good job.
Ha! Gotta love the internet. The guy does a good and interesting video on different chain sharpeners and a whole group of viewers spend who knows how much time arguing over why you should or shouldn't use lye and what it does to steel etc. Maybe Project Farm needs to test that.
Wow. I've tried several chainsaw sharpeners, and hated every last one of them. So, I go to the hardware store, get the proper bits for the mototool, and go to town. I have a rare knack to repeat actions over and over, so holding the proper angle used to require a protractor or angle guid, but now, it's all in the muscle memory. But, I will say that the mototool is a whole lot faster than by hand!
I love to see that both you and, speaking for myself others weren't gonna be satisfied with the first round of results. Thank you for the dedication of going back over the products and taking the time to produce accurate tests! We appreciate your hard work and dedication!
I have used the sthil 2 n1 for nearly 2 years now , compact, convenient, fast and easy to use. It also fits in the glove box of my utv without trying to keep track of accessories or other loose parts other sharpeners need.
I own 4 of those from Stihl. They run about $40 here in Alabama and I own so many because they seemed to disappear when I would cut some storm trees so I would pick another up. It is the only time I haven't been upset about buying needless multiples. Now I have them everywhere I need them... BTW, I haven't checked lately but the Pferd ones or knock offs I'm not sure are almost half on eBay. I believe Pferd makes these for Stihl. If price has got you unsure I wouldn't think twice about buying one on eBay. They really are that good...
I run a firewood and tree removal business and run 4 stihl chainsaws ranging from a 230 to a 441c magnum. I have tried all forms of sharpening tools over the years including the electrics and the granberg system which bolts on the bar. The small electrics wear out stones very fast and the big electrics are not site potable. The granberg bolt on the bar system is accurate but cumbersome and I threw mine away after a few sharpenings. By far the best system I have found is the stihl 2 in 1 for simplicity,ease of handling and portability. Just cannot beat it.
I go back and forth between the 2 in 1 and the oregon bench grinder skipping the rakers on the grinder. To me that makes a really consistent really sharp chain
I agree also from 71 year old fellow. I also believe the stihl chains are the best. To me, these chains stay sharp longer and wear longer. It is like that have much better steel to begin with.
I bought 2 of the Stihl 2 in 1 sharpeners last year and love them! You're getting the depth gauge work done without even thinking about it, and they're small, portable and don't need a power source.
Twenty years ago I purchased the big Oregon bench sharpener , think I paid $300 , and some spare stones . I have sharpened hundreds of chains and it’s still in perfect condition! There is definitely a learning curve , easy to remove too much material, and burn cutter ! You must adjust slowly and go easy !
Fun fact: I was listening to an album named Grinding Stone when the notification came up. Great test, the effort you put into every single video remains astonishing and I thoroughly enjoy your methodology! Thanks for this high quality content!
I love my Stihl 2 in 1. Not only is it fast, portable and requires no power, but it does a great job with both the teeth and the rakes. The testing times obviously don't include removing and replacing the chain with some units, a fact that eliminates those from consideration for me. Plus, there's something satisfying about hand sharpening a chain, that can't be quantified.
I showed my dad this channel. We all love it. This channel has the best practicality measuring between brands that I've ever seen. Your advice and experiments have genuinely changed our lives. Thank you, and keep up the good work.
I love this video. Nothing but pertinent info. No dead air or wasted words. I also loved the scientific integrity, the weighted bar to insure consistency and the 2nd take of the whole process. Good job!
"It was so bad that I had to make sure the chain wasn't on backwards" LOL. I learned something new about cleaning up the chains using lye. You must have a massive inventory of power tools. Loved the video!
@@replynotificationsdisabled Well no shit you wouldn't use it on a motorcycle chain. Lye is used to remove the dead tree bits from the chain before sharpening. Unless your motorcycle eats dead trees, don't use lye on it lol
Doing chainsaw work for 40 years almost every day, I never used anything but a file. I also never let anyone else run my saws. High-end Husky's and Stihl's. I also wrapped my files in soft cloth and kept them clean, I'd get years out of the file. We had a Stihl grinder, which some people preferred because of their inability to file it correctly. I was always constantly making new chains up for them, since they'd go through chain so fast. I did use the Stihl file tool, and found it excellent if you were careful.
Files? or grinding stones? I keep my files piled together in a drawer, same files my dad had. Probably some 60-70 year old files. I bet all that piling up damaged them. 😆
All of my files are separated from one another. I roll them up in a cloth. Making a "file roll" with a layer of wrap between each one. File cards or brass brushes to clean out the filings, this helps with file longevity. Files are cutting tools and should be treated as one should treat all sharp tools and protect the cutting edges from unnecessary damage.
My thoughts exactly. I've always loved using it and "felt" it to be sharper than factory. It's my #1 for in that it doesn't need voltage to run. Thank You!
Certainly is advantageous in being a 2-in-1 sharpener over my HF Grinder which, overall, scores highly on value-for-money & ease of use. Thanks for a neat comparison video.
I never held a chainsaw in my life and honestly don't see myself in a situation where I will need a chain sharpener but I can't stop watching, that's how great and well made this man's videos are
@@ProjectFarm The stihl two in one would've done an even better job had you purchase the right size file in the tool for your chain. It's a precision made piece of equipment. Not recommended to swap out file diameter sizes. It messes up the tolerances. Best sharpener I ever owned. 🤗👍
Agreed. I have two Stihl 2 in 1s-one for each size chain I own. They are affordable, reasonably fast, and do a very good job of keeping my saws sharp while cutting juniper firewood. Plus, no need for electricity of any kind, they are very quiet, simple to use and the files last much longer than sharpening stones. I bought one of those Chicago sharpeners. Never made it past reading the set up instructions! Thanks to ProjectFarm for validating my purchase decision! What a great reviewer!!!
Personally I use the Stihl 2 in 1 and it's a great compromise between simplicity, price, and performance. Great video! Thank you for all your hard work on this channel. After watching; I no longer feel the urge to buy/try a new sharpener. I now believe that the 2 in 1 is the best option for the particular work that I do. Cheers 🍻
I agree. That tools is a perfect combination of simplicity and accuracy. As long as you have working hand muscles, you don't need motors for this stuff. And since it also cuts the depth gauges at the same time, it's usually the fastest tool for the job.
Even when you review products I will most likely never use, I still love to watch your videos. As always thank you for the content and keep up the good work! Can't wait for the next Video!
@@ProjectFarm while i have you - I saw that you did a video on oscillating tool blades. have you done one on the best oscillating tool? I've been thinking about getting one
Like most of our early learning from educated people who were not liking kids very much but the money comes in whether we learned what they put on the board. Just in case we had a question on subject matter.🤔
I bought one of these a year ago and haven't looked back since. The best for ease of use, compactness and price. Top quality as well. I agree. The winner in my opinion as well. So easy to use you could sharpen your chain in the porta john after morning coffee. Double threat this thing is..
I've used a few types of chainsaw sharpeners over the years from the field sharpening kit to the oregeon bench sharpener before I finally settled on the Stihl 2 in 1 sharpener. I've used the 2 in 1 on all my chains that I've amassed over the years (quite a few) and they all are cutting almost better than they did new. I will also note that after watching this video I will definitely be adding cleaning my chains this winter to my list of winter projects every year from now on. Awesome video thanks for making it.
"One of my least favorite things to do is chain sharpening" A Fricking Men...The only thing I hate more than sharpening chains is cutting with a dull one.
I get such a thrill every time you say VERY IMPRESSIVE! Gotta say the same about you, Todd, and that ranking is epitomized in this video. Your diligence, work ethic, ingenuity, fairness, and charisma are VERY IMPRESSIVE. Thanks for your product's value and entertainment.
Can you do one on digital torque wrenches? I seen the other day harbor freight has one and I would like to see how it held up to a snap on. Like if you agree 👍🤙🤙
@@ProjectFarm I was wandering the same thing. I need to buy a torque wrench and was wandering if the one at Harbor freight was worth buying. PS, Your channel is the best on RUclips!
My manual Craftsman and Wright Tool torque wrenches are growing tired. Costs a lot to calibrate them. Seen digital ones at dealerships and there seems to be a big range in the green light and beep.
I seconds this, I use the cornwell CTG5000ANG, because at the time I bought it 3 years ago it was half the price of the snap-on equivalent and I like the weekly warranty service. From what I understand the cornwell is identical to the Eastwood digital wrench. The head was very cheap feeling and coarse-tooth, but I swapped a snap-on 1/2 ratchet head into it with a tiny bit of filing the opening. Would love to see how accurate it is compared to others, both in Torque and angle measurements. Your channel is excellent, please keep up the great work!
I agree, this would be a good one. And please include the digital adapter style like the AC Delco one that you use in the videos, and the Quinn digital adapter style from HF.
Thank you for another valuable video. I think yours is the most valuable channel on youtube. Whenever I am considering buying a new tool, I stop at your channel and review the applicable comparison video. You have saved me considerable time and money through the years.
I love it when Project Farm recommends tools I already own. Thanks Todd, another awesome video.. I have an old (really old) Homelite. I have been using Granberg sharpeners for ever.. I'm going to get a Granberg 12v just cause the older I get, the less time I want to spend sharpening my saw every season.
Never owned a chainsaw Never envisage needing one Certainly won't need a chainsaw chain sharpener So why am I watching this video? Because Project Farm 😁 Feel free to use that as a slogan everyone 👍👍👍
*_Stihl 2 in 1 is the best! I use it all the time, on the field even 2-3 times per day. Simple brainless sharpening ;) I hate electric sharpener if you don't have electricity nearby and they also take away a LOOT of material making chain useless after a week of working !!_*
i think that there is a very important variable here: the angle that you use the chainsaw to cut -- is not the same all the time. A steeper angle means greater cutting area - this can influence the time a lot. thank you for your test. it is always nice to watch your videos
I've always heard good things about the stihl 2 in 1 and this just shows how good it is for a field sharpener. I love your videos and how good you are at making sure everything has a far comparison and the technicality of testing to back it up. Great content, smart analysis and easy to understand. Exactly what RUclips needs.
Now that I've seen the entire video, I'm really impressed that you have everyone a second chance "because I'm not very good at sharpening chains" I didn't think you could get fairer than a Project Farm test, but it seems that you can 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I worked as the yardman for a logging company for several years. The best chain sharpener I found was a file. I tried one of these electric sharpeners and even had a person who worked on our chainsaws to sharpen chains using his sharpener. They all harden the chain to the point you cannot sharpen them with a file when you need to.
@memyself I always use a chain saw file. You have to use the right size file also. There are several different sizes of files. Which one depends on what kind of chain you use. Most saw manuals tell you which size to use for your chain type. Also the person who sold you the saw/chain should be able to point you to the right size.
Hi, first, I'm very thankful to you. There's a lot behind the scene to prepare and create, very inspiring. 2nd perfect incredible synchro while writing down my "to do list" and knowing I have to buy something to sharpen my chain saw and want to search and I opened my internet and what I see on you tube right now, this. Perfect timing. A great amazing demonstration. From Quebec/Canada.
I don't own chainsaw but for some weird reason I still find this video interesting :-) Just like all Project Farm videos I just like to watch them because they are really well done and interesting and I will always learn something new from them =)
regarding reviews... you don't know the half of it. Some places have you sign a non-disparagement agreement before they send out review products (early release stuff). There's a certain industry that is having a trade show this month that is pretty bad for "soft reviews".
I watched many other videos on saw-chain sharpening tools. This one was excellent. Lots of subject matter covered rapidly. Right to the point! Concise descriptions. Good use of fast-frame. Excellent editing! 5 stars! Thank you. I'm subscribing.
OUTSTANDING video. I fully appreciate how much testing you did. I found your video because I'm searching for a chain sharpener. It was truly eye opening to see so many different types when all I'd heard about was the one from Harbor Freight or manual files. Currently, my cost for sharpening is $5 per chain (off the saw) or $8 per chain (on the saw). Since I currently have 6 x 16" and 6 x 20" chains, you can see how, even at $5 per chain, the costs add up fast. Thank you for providing such detailed information and great explanations. I'm sub'ing your channel for more great videos like this.
And if they are not careful, a tech sharpening the chain by machine can overheat the steel, which hardens it at the edge and makes it basically impossible to sharpen again with a file.
That’s amazingly cheap. It’s $10 our way off the bar. I started sharpening my own because of the cost and because they remove too much material they overheat the teeth turning them bluish. Nope, don’t want that. I’m much happier with the results sharpening it myself.
PS: I have a Northern tool electric grinder and the Stihl 2in 1. I prefer the 2 in 1. The bench grinder is nice the even out the length of the teeth. That’s it. Otherwise the Stihl is my go to.
@@coffeenclinic Overheating steel (or any iron-based metal) like you're describing anneals it, making it softer, not harder... but you're 100% correct - it makes it almost impossible to sharpen again, and prevents it from holding an edge.
Are you sharpening the rakers as well, or just the cutters? I was a Dremel guy for years until I recently learned what I was doing. Dremel is great for cutters. Using it for rakers is dangerous unless you hand depth gauge each one. The Stihl 2 in 1 is definitely worth having. The 2/1=cutters and rakers. It automatically hits both while maintaining the proper ratio of cutter/raker. Way faster than depth gauging each raker. Worth having if you don't want to lose fingers.
The most interesting part was cleaning them. That’s probably the first thing I need to do from now on. I’ve always used the basic Oregon kit. I think I’m going to get the Stihl 2 in 1. It looks like the most versatile. Thanks for this video.
Just remember that the 2n1 is only used on full chains such as what he was using. If you have a skip tooth for faster cutting of large wood you would want the other one.
Had not seen your channel until now, excellent Job!! I really love how you get through the material in a clear and speedy way, so many videos out that are time burners, like testing a log splitter by starting in the barn and showing hooking it up to the tractor!!!!
You could have your own TV show. I have used your videos a ton for selecting what to buy and what to stay away from. You are humble and honest in your testing.
Thank you for your tremendously thorough review ! I've got the Stihl 2-in-1 and for the money it sharpens so good and fast with no electricity needed - Lightweight too.
I have both the Stihl 2 in 1 and an Oregon bench grinder...the Stihl in my opinion is by far the best. And it can be used on site for quick touch ups. Another great video with real world results 👍 well done.
Best reviews I've ever seen. Unbiased and short to the point. Have you ever done one on the best water fittings? Shark bites, crimp rings, solder or compression.
@@ProjectFarm I think it's possible to flip the sharpener instead of switching the blade out of vice. At least thats been my experience. Thanks for sharing
Used a Dremel with Sharpening stone for many many years, do it by eye. Always works fine. Maybe not optimal, but plenty sharp. Sharpening done ON the bar. easy to see what already done because layer of oil removed from blade done. (done most like the Stihl version)
Again, with perfect timing! Just had a nasty ice storm here in Oregon. I was lucky, power was only out for 24 hours. Some friends went over a week! But lots of oak limbs and some dead trees fell around the house so I have a couple very dull chains now. Thanks! 😁👍
I am very impressed by your thoroughness, precision, and attention to details. I especially liked the fact that you used a constant force for each cut by applying a weight to the chain saw. This has to be the definitive test of chain saw sharpeners. You put a lot of time, thought and effort into this and I thank you.
Project Farm: "When it comes to using a chainsaw, one of my least favorite things to do, is chain sharpening!" Also Project Farm: *makes a video sharpening 9 chains all at once
The Stihl 2 in 1 will make sharpening easy and no longer a chore. I have a Triton SuperJaws in my shop and I clamp a 5 inch C- Clamp in it and use that to clamp my bar and sharpen my chain on the saw with the 2 in 1. It's quick to clamp my saw and a good height to sharpen at. Takes about 5 mins to sharpen. In the field I just set the saw on the back of my truck, put the tip of the bar in my stomach (usually wearing a sweatshirt), sharpen all the top teeth, then rotate the chain. 3-4 times and I'm done. Probably 7 minutes that way.
I'm a big fan of your impartial and robust reviews. Thank you for taking such time and care to be independent and reliable. I'd love to see how the Oregon Powersharp system stacks up against these. Some regard it as a gimmick, but the 5 second sharpening process and reliable chisel profile is helpful especially for the inexperienced. I've found it useful on my ego power+ saw and my petrol one before that. Although more expensive to use, it does remove the safety risk of using a blunt chain or one that is out of balance due to improper sharpening. Pros and cons so a test would be great. Keep up the great work! Best regards from Sussex in Southern England!
Never been this early to a video Really impressed that you went back to redo the tests after taking the time to figure out each sharpening system. Curious as to which ones had the greatest learning curve, as well as the easiest and hardest to set up.
I found the stihl 2in1 to be pretty good. Here in australia we cut alot hardwood & have lots of termites so the wood often has dirt in it so chai wear is really bad so not only does the cutting edge go blunt quickly the height of the tooth wears also. The 2in1 not only sharpens but also reduces the height of the rakers. Alot of people have trouble sharpening chains because they dont realise the height of the rakers is important.
As a professional woodcutter in Australia I agree completely. The Stihl 2 in 1 is easy to use and does need power. That means you can sharpen in the forest / bush every refuel which for me can be every hour or 30 min if really going hard on a Stihl 500i.
I do not cut alot, but I have cut off and on for many years. Sharpening a chain has been hit or miss for me... the Stihl 2 and 1 works everytime, I will never go back. I tried the Oregon quick sharp and it didn't have a long life. Good for a few sharps, then cuts in a circle.
The Stihl 2 in 1 seems to be a clone of the Pferd 2 in 1, or perhaps it is made by Pferd for Stihl. Only difference being color of plastic and the Pferd is a few dollars less. They come in various chain pitches (ie file size) to match your saw chain. I've been using if for two years with a stump vise in the field, and haven't used my bench saw chain grinder since. Another advantage in using the 2 in 1 system is there is no chance of overheating the chain tooth as too often happened to me with the bench saw chain grinder.
Really great timing on this one. I've been thinking about buying a chain sharpener and it looks like I can save some money by just getting the field sharpener for my limited use. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for a great review, I have been using the Stihl 2in1 for about 12 months on Ozzie hardwood and find it great but I use a stump vice in the field and a bench vice in the shed to hold the saw it makes life a lot easier
The timberline chain sharpener would have been an ideal addition to this list. It's a unique system. Personally I like to hand file and find that with practice you can get much sharper than factory and faster cutting which is usually determined by raker height adjustment.
I like to hand file as well. I use the oregon 12v infield for dirty logs sense it's so fast. You can definitely implement hand sharping skills in to the portable 12 v sharpeners.
@@WOODDIGDIY I think about getting a grinder but just don't. Asa long as I can file one there's really no need and as far as taking the drags down it's too much trouble to swap stones just for that and having to take the chain off the saw too. And I might have a spare chain but most of the time I don't. And I run Stihl chains because of holding an edge so well. I used to run Oregon till I tried a Stihl. I'll pay the extra for the extra cutting and most of mine is firewood that's been skidded so dirt is a regular deal. And I always clean, file and gas and oil after I get done so I'm ready to go when needed. And am using Tru-fuel and don't ever have to worry IF a saw will start. BLESSINGS 2 U!
He should registered it. I used a DC attorney named Josh Gerben for mine. #2 attorney in the US for number of trademarks filed. Prices were *insanely* reasonable.
As usual, great information. I have used chain saws for over 50 years and have hated filing chain saws for decades. About 20 years ago I picked up grinding bits for my Dremel tool and my chainsaw sharpening miseries were over. No special jigs or holders were needed....just maintaining the correct angle by eye and grinding until stone nicks were gone has produced excellent results. Plus my Dremel can be used for all kinds of tasks. Keep up the good work. Great testing protocols, great subjects. Your wood glue testing deserves a national science award.
Another great video! I sharpened about 50 chains a week for around 2 years (rental yard) I also sharpened for a couple of competitive loggers. I used a commercial sharpening machine, and what I learned after all that was that there are a lot of ways to use tweaks in sharpening settings to ; improve chain life, speed up cutting, tune for ripping or crosscutting, or tune for safety. High rake teeth and shallow cut angles cause much less kickback, but work much slower. They also dull less quickly in dirty wood. Guess how I was instructed to sharpen chains in the Rental Yard?. It was great of you to do a second round after going through the learning curve. What do I use today? The Oregon Field Sharpening kit. Fast enough for me. I sharpen on a good tight section of damaged chain bar set up in my bench vice. This is caster and more precise than sharpening on the saw.
Tried different kits and files and basically threw them into the bottom draw. What matters IMO is actually looking at the chain profile and sharpening it till it's razor sharp. And close to the right angle for the type of wood. I just use a 12 volt hand electric sharpener and change stones and sharpen really regularly. Learning what are sharp chain should really look like is the key. Depth gauges etc are a substitute for brains and frankly a waste of time. In Australia we cut real hardwood not mock wood. Your chain must be really sharp. And you need a proper saw.
Im not sure if this would be up your alley, but getting you hands clean after a dirty job can be a pain without a good cleaner, would love to see you compare hand cleaner/soaps, such as glo-jo, snap-on's orange (imho the best,) man hand cleaner etc. Not sure how hard it'd be to compare them though. As always, love your work PF, no one comes near to your level of unbiased straight facts
I make my own hand cleaner, take a full box of Borax and mix in just enough water to make it the consistency of wet sand, then also mix in a quarter cup of Dawn dish soap and store in a sealable container. Now if you get pine sap or roofing tar on your hands spray some WD 40 on your hands and rub and follow up with the DIY soap and you will get clean.
Just got a Stihl 2 in 1 and I am very happy with it. Such a simple solution to sharpen where ever you go. A no brainer to get one if you are a not a pro. Speaking about the measurements hereyour last part really shows that is is also a lot about knowing how to use your tools cause you got way better results over all in the second round. It sort of leads me to the conclusion that the differences in round two might just be attributed to differences in the wood. We all know how much a hard twig or crossfibre can slow down the cutting. All in all a nice demo. Will subscribe to your channel.
Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
Stihl 2-in-1: amzn.to/3pYRdyb
Granberg Bar Mount Manual: amzn.to/3dx6Avt
Granberg 12v Bar Mount: amzn.to/2ZxnB0l
Oregon Sure Sharp 12v: amzn.to/3sdaBJA
Oregon 120V Bench: amzn.to/3udObd3
Chicago Electric 120V Bench: amzn.to/3dATmxA
Oregon Field Sharpening Kit: amzn.to/3qEvq09
I've never said it before, so I wanted to leave this here:
Thank you very much for having little to no dead time on your videos. You always time your commentary on the comparison you're making just right so you're done before the test finishes.
This makes it so that when you're done talking, you're ready to show the next in line, and gives your videos a very dynamic feel.
Thanks!
I agree with you 110%!
Yes, super professional production values.
agree completely
Agreed. Videos are long but don't lose your attention.
This guy is the best for comparison tests on you tube that I have seen. No nonsense, no time wasting and no annoying music. We should all send him a few dollars / pounds.
Since you speak for us all go ahead and Chip a a dollar for each of us
he runs and burns (hardens of ?) the metal as fast as he talks. Easy on the grinding! RUMMMP! "blk & blue" metal
This guy is our only reliable source of knowledge about tools and he needs to be protected at all cost.
Thanks!
Commercials lie, he tells the truth.
AvE is cool too
@@ProjectFarm i enjoy alot of your oil testing videos and i always use penzoil i had switched to full platinum synthetic i use to use regular 5w 20 and i was wondering if you could test the difference in the regular penzoil high mileage platinum and the platinum full synthetic and i think there is also just the regular high mileage thankyou for your videos on testing out different products and was wondering if you could test the different grades of penzoil.
Absolutely
It's been incredible to watch you grow over the years! I remember when most everything you tested was either "should you get this cheap thing or the super cheap knockoff?." Not to say that you have gone above the average homeowners budget, it's just that your growth and success has allowed you to test some higher end tools and it's verry appreciated.. A $7 screwdriver is one thing, but when you're testing multiple different products that are $50 to $100 a piece, that's where you're saving us some serious money brother! I agree with everyone else! Protect this man at all costs! For he is the only "Quality Control" person lookin' out for the little guys!! 🤙
Thanks!
Let's all stop for a minute to admire the amount of time and thought it must take for you to not only think of the ideas but to make the tests the video then editing. Thank you!!!
You are welcome!
Hell, I'm just admiring the time it takes to sharpen one chain by hand, let along almost a dozen of them several times. I know he shows it only takes 5 minutes or so in the video, but I remember watching my dad spend hours doing that and his end result was that he felt like it didn't help much. I have a feeling he was just buying cheap chains and/or he had a crappy sharpener. Now whenever mine get dull, I just replace them. This video is making me consider getting a good sharpener. It would definitely pay for itself within a year (my use is light). I wonder how well these would work on other materials. I found a chain I really like and it says the blades are made out of titanium. The chips that come off that chain are huge.
@@teddgram i agree on just replacing them. when I know I am going to do some major cutting i just buy a couple/three new chains and have at it. I guess if you're cutting everyday or week it makes more sense to sharpen them. I do use the stihl sharpener when I am in the field cutting though and it does a very good job.
Nah dremel faster
Ha! Gotta love the internet. The guy does a good and interesting video on different chain sharpeners and a whole group of viewers spend who knows how much time arguing over why you should or shouldn't use lye and what it does to steel etc. Maybe Project Farm needs to test that.
I'm a line clearance tree trimmer and the Stihl 2n1 is my go to.
Thanks for sharing.
The 2 in 1 is my go to as well. 5-10 min tops and good to go!! If I’m in the woods I use a bar clamp to hold the saw steady
It's definitely the best value and also the most portable. Very fast to get the chain sharp as well. That's all I use to sharpen my chains
Awesome. I'm old school. I've got an old John Deere with a 38" bar, 67cc. Very heavy, powerful, and a great workout. Not so much fun for trimming.
Hey same I work for abc.
The most famous quotes of all time: "one small step for man", "let's get ready to rumble" and "We're going to test that" :P
Thanks!
more like "Let's find out"! I love seeing that in the clip.
@@MiloPerrotti Me too! Another good one
Wow. I've tried several chainsaw sharpeners, and hated every last one of them.
So, I go to the hardware store, get the proper bits for the mototool, and go to town.
I have a rare knack to repeat actions over and over, so holding the proper angle used to require a protractor or angle guid, but now, it's all in the muscle memory.
But, I will say that the mototool is a whole lot faster than by hand!
Dont forget the most famous:
"I make a new one" - mymechanics
Thank you for having the best comparison videos on RUclips!
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!
This channel is what youtube is supposed to be about. Amazing knowledge for the world. In short, thanks for posting.
You are welcome!
This is the absolute most unbiased channel about tools I have ever seen, I love it
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm I only stumbled upon your channel 2 days ago I'm curious why the Kobalt chainsaw was not featured in chainsaw videos?
Great job! Thank you! I enjoy your channel!
@@Blacklistwar Because it's not a chainsaw comparison, it's a chainsaw sharpener comparison......
I love to see that both you and, speaking for myself others weren't gonna be satisfied with the first round of results. Thank you for the dedication of going back over the products and taking the time to produce accurate tests! We appreciate your hard work and dedication!
Awesome! Thank you!
I second that! Thank you!
I have used the sthil 2 n1 for nearly 2 years now , compact, convenient, fast and easy to use. It also fits in the glove box of my utv without trying to keep track of accessories or other loose parts other sharpeners need.
Thanks for sharing.
dito. blue 2in form Pferd
I own 4 of those from Stihl.
They run about $40 here in Alabama and I own so many because they seemed to disappear when I would cut some storm trees so I would pick another up. It is the only time I haven't been upset about buying needless multiples.
Now I have them everywhere I need them...
BTW, I haven't checked lately but the Pferd ones or knock offs I'm not sure are almost half on eBay.
I believe Pferd makes these for Stihl.
If price has got you unsure
I wouldn't think twice about buying one on eBay. They really are that good...
I run a firewood and tree removal business and run 4 stihl chainsaws ranging from a 230 to a 441c magnum.
I have tried all forms of sharpening tools over the years including the electrics and the granberg system which bolts on the bar.
The small electrics wear out stones very fast and the big electrics are not site potable.
The granberg bolt on the bar system is accurate but cumbersome and I threw mine away after a few sharpenings.
By far the best system I have found is the stihl 2 in 1 for simplicity,ease of handling and portability.
Just cannot beat it.
I agree
I go back and forth between the 2 in 1 and the oregon bench grinder skipping the rakers on the grinder. To me that makes a really consistent really sharp chain
Yup can’t beat the two and one portable just keep a good shark file and you’re good to go
Agreed
I agree also from 71 year old fellow. I also believe the stihl chains are the best. To me, these chains stay sharp longer and wear longer. It is like that have much better steel to begin with.
"Hey man, you wanna come over for a beer?"
"Sorry, I'm busy sharpening 9 different chain saw blades"
Thanks for watching.
CHAIN AND BAR! There is no blade
"Sorry, I'm busy watching a guy sharpen 9 different chainsaw blades"
"Sorry, I'm busy dulling 9 chainsaw chains"
@@bassboat1 Ahaha That is good one! :D
I bought 2 of the Stihl 2 in 1 sharpeners last year and love them! You're getting the depth gauge work done without even thinking about it, and they're small, portable and don't need a power source.
Thanks for sharing.
Agreed.
Twenty years ago I purchased the big Oregon bench sharpener , think I paid $300 , and some spare stones . I have sharpened hundreds of chains and it’s still in perfect condition! There is definitely a learning curve , easy to remove too much material, and burn cutter ! You must adjust slowly and go easy !
Thanks for sharing.
Fun fact: I was listening to an album named Grinding Stone when the notification came up. Great test, the effort you put into every single video remains astonishing and I thoroughly enjoy your methodology! Thanks for this high quality content!
Thank you!
I love my Stihl 2 in 1. Not only is it fast, portable and requires no power, but it does a great job with both the teeth and the rakes. The testing times obviously don't include removing and replacing the chain with some units, a fact that eliminates those from consideration for me. Plus, there's something satisfying about hand sharpening a chain, that can't be quantified.
Thanks for sharing.
I showed my dad this channel. We all love it. This channel has the best practicality measuring between brands that I've ever seen. Your advice and experiments have genuinely changed our lives. Thank you, and keep up the good work.
Wow, thank you, will do!
I love this video. Nothing but pertinent info. No dead air or wasted words. I also loved the scientific integrity, the weighted bar to insure consistency and the 2nd take of the whole process. Good job!
Thanks so much!
PF: "I will now sharpen 9 chainsaw blades."
Foresters everywhere: "The Absolute MadLad!"
Lol, Thank you!
it's ya boi!.....Project Raid: Farm Legends
I assume they'rere probably thinking "Chainsaw blades?"
@@intox69
Huh?
@@intox69 Not sure what's up with the "blade" referral when it comes to chainsaws, either. They have a "bar" and a "chain".
"We're gonna test that"...Companies begin sweating. :) love every one of your videos,you help the consumer more than anyone .
Thank you!
"It was so bad that I had to make sure the chain wasn't on backwards" LOL. I learned something new about cleaning up the chains using lye. You must have a massive inventory of power tools. Loved the video!
Doubt the lye helps any. Sure wouldn't use it on a motorcycle chain.
Thanks!
@@replynotificationsdisabled Well no shit you wouldn't use it on a motorcycle chain. Lye is used to remove the dead tree bits from the chain before sharpening.
Unless your motorcycle eats dead trees, don't use lye on it lol
@@replynotificationsdisabled It only reacts with aluminium or zinc. I'd stick with gasoline or diesel too tho because I dont know the alloy
@@Sun-ut9gr but you'd use it on a chain with blades, literally in front of your face?
Doing chainsaw work for 40 years almost every day, I never used anything but a file. I also never let anyone else run my saws. High-end Husky's and Stihl's. I also wrapped my files in soft cloth and kept them clean, I'd get years out of the file. We had a Stihl grinder, which some people preferred because of their inability to file it correctly. I was always constantly making new chains up for them, since they'd go through chain so fast. I did use the Stihl file tool, and found it excellent if you were careful.
Thanks for sharing.
Files? or grinding stones? I keep my files piled together in a drawer, same files my dad had. Probably some 60-70 year old files. I bet all that piling up damaged them. 😆
@@m4rvinmartian I actually used mine every day. And the files I sourced weren't that old, so maybe the old ones stayed sharp longer, but I doubt it.
hand filing is the way to go, i learned the hard way letting someone use my saw.
All of my files are separated from one another. I roll them up in a cloth. Making a "file roll" with a layer of wrap between each one. File cards or brass brushes to clean out the filings, this helps with file longevity. Files are cutting tools and should be treated as one should treat all sharp tools and protect the cutting edges from unnecessary damage.
I've been using the Stihl 2 in 1 for about 2 years now and I'm so glad you were able to confirm my biases! Thank you as always!
You are welcome!
My thoughts exactly. I've always loved using it and "felt" it to be sharper than factory. It's my #1 for in that it doesn't need voltage to run. Thank You!
I use one in the field and touch up my chains regularly rather than let them get dull before I sharpen. Great sharpener.
I find myself sitting here rooting for my tools, and today I was not disappointed.
I love my Stihl 2-in-1!!!
Same, and fits in your back pocket!
Thanks for the feedback.
Agreed no hassle does a great job use it in the woods. Can change out the files when worn out. There is no better file in my opinion.
Grat job...its nice to see a real product comparison ( some are so bias )
Thanks.....I'll be back!
pc
Certainly is advantageous in being a 2-in-1 sharpener over my HF Grinder which, overall, scores highly on value-for-money & ease of use. Thanks for a neat comparison video.
I never held a chainsaw in my life and honestly don't see myself in a situation where I will need a chain sharpener but I can't stop watching, that's how great and well made this man's videos are
Thanks so much!
In a world where you can trust so few, you make up the few. Amazing work. Thanks for all you do.
The Stihl 2 in 1 on time, cost, set-up and results is by far a clear winner.
Great point!
@@ProjectFarm The stihl two in one would've done an even better job had you purchase the right size file in the tool for your chain. It's a precision made piece of equipment. Not recommended to swap out file diameter sizes. It messes up the tolerances. Best sharpener I ever owned. 🤗👍
I agree, I love mine!!!
Agreed. I have two Stihl 2 in 1s-one for each size chain I own. They are affordable, reasonably fast, and do a very good job of keeping my saws sharp while cutting juniper firewood. Plus, no need for electricity of any kind, they are very quiet, simple to use and the files last much longer than sharpening stones. I bought one of those Chicago sharpeners. Never made it past reading the set up instructions! Thanks to ProjectFarm for validating my purchase decision! What a great reviewer!!!
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Personally I use the Stihl 2 in 1 and it's a great compromise between simplicity, price, and performance. Great video! Thank you for all your hard work on this channel. After watching; I no longer feel the urge to buy/try a new sharpener. I now believe that the 2 in 1 is the best option for the particular work that I do. Cheers 🍻
Thanks for the feedback.
I agree I cut professionally and the 2 and 1 does the job for us
I have a 2 in 1 by Pferd. Also from Germany. Excellent results. Don’t mind sharpening the saw any more.
I agree. That tools is a perfect combination of simplicity and accuracy. As long as you have working hand muscles, you don't need motors for this stuff. And since it also cuts the depth gauges at the same time, it's usually the fastest tool for the job.
I love my 2 in 1. Been sharpening saws for many years and have found nothing that comes close to this tool.
Even when you review products I will most likely never use, I still love to watch your videos. As always thank you for the content and keep up the good work! Can't wait for the next Video!
You are so welcome, will do!
Thank you for your attention to detail and explanation of the process. This serves to make the video credible. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
I personally love the Stihl 2 in 1, we always take it with us to the forest, takes me max 3 minutes to sharpen the chain.
Thanks for sharing.
Yep. You can't go back to the shop and run your power grinder if you're out working. Lowering the depth gauge at the same time is a big plus, too.
Hands down the best for the money.
You got it right Hannah. I do the same. Files rakers(depth gauges) at the same time. Great sharpener
I've tried many sharpening tools and failed miserably. I haven't used the Stihl. Is it easy to use by a layman?
Project Farm spares no expense of his time or money to make these videos.
Another stellar video!
Thanks so much!
@@ProjectFarm while i have you - I saw that you did a video on oscillating tool blades. have you done one on the best oscillating tool? I've been thinking about getting one
I used to hate to sharpen my chains until I bought this stihl 2 in 1 sharpener, it is a game changer for me...
My dad has it and loves it
I use a stump vice with my 2&1. It's fast, reliable and simple. Just keep sharp files in it and you cant go wrong.
Like most of our early learning from educated people who were not liking kids very much but the money comes in whether we learned what they put on the board. Just in case we had a question on subject matter.🤔
The Stihl 2 in 1 lives in my belt pouch and gets used in the field - clear winner in my opinion…
Thanks for the feedback.
I bought one of these a year ago and haven't looked back since. The best for ease of use, compactness and price. Top quality as well. I agree. The winner in my opinion as well. So easy to use you could sharpen your chain in the porta john after morning coffee. Double threat this thing is..
It's what I use.
I just bought this thing and I'm blown away at how good it performs and ease of use. I'm sold on the 2 in 1.
@@williamwalter4882 Yep simple, foolproof, and effective. Kinda perfect.
I swear you are able to read my mind brother! I was all set to order the STIHL 2 in 1 this week. Thanks for reinforcing that decision.
Glad I could help!
I've used a few types of chainsaw sharpeners over the years from the field sharpening kit to the oregeon bench sharpener before I finally settled on the Stihl 2 in 1 sharpener. I've used the 2 in 1 on all my chains that I've amassed over the years (quite a few) and they all are cutting almost better than they did new. I will also note that after watching this video I will definitely be adding cleaning my chains this winter to my list of winter projects every year from now on. Awesome video thanks for making it.
Thanks and you are welcome!
I use the the Stihl 2 in 1 sharpener and now my chainsaw goes thru logs like a hot knife thru butter..fantastic sharpener..
@@ProjectFarm , what so you do with the lye water?
yes.. the lye is a neat trick...didn't know
"One of my least favorite things to do is chain sharpening" A Fricking Men...The only thing I hate more than sharpening chains is cutting with a dull one.
Thanks for the feedback.
Gives us something to do when it’s raining/too wet out.
My husband will stop cutting if it ain't throwing big chips. Hates a dull chain, he uses a dremel to sharpen chain
The Stihl 2 in 1 is the one I would go for! Good results with no power supply needed! Also small and compact and you could carry it with you.
Great feedback. Thank you!
I keep mine right in the stihl chainsaw case
I get such a thrill every time you say VERY IMPRESSIVE! Gotta say the same about you, Todd, and that ranking is epitomized in this video. Your diligence, work ethic, ingenuity, fairness, and charisma are VERY IMPRESSIVE. Thanks for your product's value and entertainment.
You are welcome!
when you don't even own a chainsaw, but click because you love Project Farm videos!!
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely!!!
Grab one at yard sale. Fuel lines likely bad. 10 bucks like new
@@jeromeduffy9270 I would but I dont have a need for one yet
@@Torque_Haven fun to have.
Can you do one on digital torque wrenches? I seen the other day harbor freight has one and I would like to see how it held up to a snap on. Like if you agree 👍🤙🤙
Great suggestion!
@@ProjectFarm I was wandering the same thing. I need to buy a torque wrench and was wandering if the one at Harbor freight was worth buying. PS, Your channel is the best on RUclips!
My manual Craftsman and Wright Tool torque wrenches are growing tired. Costs a lot to calibrate them. Seen digital ones at dealerships and there seems to be a big range in the green light and beep.
I seconds this, I use the cornwell CTG5000ANG, because at the time I bought it 3 years ago it was half the price of the snap-on equivalent and I like the weekly warranty service. From what I understand the cornwell is identical to the Eastwood digital wrench. The head was very cheap feeling and coarse-tooth, but I swapped a snap-on 1/2 ratchet head into it with a tiny bit of filing the opening. Would love to see how accurate it is compared to others, both in Torque and angle measurements. Your channel is excellent, please keep up the great work!
I agree, this would be a good one. And please include the digital adapter style like the AC Delco one that you use in the videos, and the Quinn digital adapter style from HF.
Thank you for another valuable video. I think yours is the most valuable channel on youtube. Whenever I am considering buying a new tool, I stop at your channel and review the applicable comparison video. You have saved me considerable time and money through the years.
Ohhh man! I’ll say it again, “ Most useful channel on RUclips” 😄
Appreciate that!
I love it when Project Farm recommends tools I already own.
Thanks Todd, another awesome video..
I have an old (really old) Homelite. I have been using Granberg sharpeners for ever.. I'm going to get a Granberg 12v just cause the older I get, the less time I want to spend sharpening my saw every season.
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
Never owned a chainsaw
Never envisage needing one
Certainly won't need a chainsaw chain sharpener
So why am I watching this video?
Because Project Farm 😁
Feel free to use that as a slogan everyone 👍👍👍
Thank you!!
Thank God for project Farm! Yes, because project Farm!
I was going to say the same thing. I'll never use some of the products that Todd tests but having the knowledge about them is important to me.
Man bidness.
*_Stihl 2 in 1 is the best! I use it all the time, on the field even 2-3 times per day. Simple brainless sharpening ;) I hate electric sharpener if you don't have electricity nearby and they also take away a LOOT of material making chain useless after a week of working !!_*
i think that there is a very important variable here: the angle that you use the chainsaw to cut -- is not the same all the time. A steeper angle means greater cutting area - this can influence the time a lot.
thank you for your test. it is always nice to watch your videos
I've always heard good things about the stihl 2 in 1 and this just shows how good it is for a field sharpener. I love your videos and how good you are at making sure everything has a far comparison and the technicality of testing to back it up. Great content, smart analysis and easy to understand. Exactly what RUclips needs.
Thanks so much!
Never used chainsaw in my life yet watched whole vdo. Love from Asia.
Thanks for watching!
Now that I've seen the entire video, I'm really impressed that you have everyone a second chance "because I'm not very good at sharpening chains"
I didn't think you could get fairer than a Project Farm test, but it seems that you can
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for watching.
I worked as the yardman for a logging company for several years. The best chain sharpener I found was a file. I tried one of these electric sharpeners and even had a person who worked on our chainsaws to sharpen chains using his sharpener. They all harden the chain to the point you cannot sharpen them with a file when you need to.
This is a really important point that many will miss
@memyself I always use a chain saw file. You have to use the right size file also. There are several different sizes of files. Which one depends on what kind of chain you use. Most saw manuals tell you which size to use for your chain type. Also the person who sold you the saw/chain should be able to point you to the right size.
If it hardens the chain isn't that a good thing? As in stays sharp longer while you are cutting?
@@harvestvillage695 makes it nearly impossible to field sharpen with a file though. Didn't seem to last as long as with a file either.
Hi, first, I'm very thankful to you. There's a lot behind the scene to prepare and create, very inspiring. 2nd perfect incredible synchro while writing down my "to do list" and knowing I have to buy something to sharpen my chain saw and want to search and I opened my internet and what I see on you tube right now, this. Perfect timing.
A great amazing demonstration. From Quebec/Canada.
Thanks so much!
I always lighten up whenever I see a new upload from Project Farm. Stay safe and keep doing what you're doing, partner!
Thank you. You too
I don't own chainsaw but for some weird reason I still find this video interesting :-) Just like all Project Farm videos I just like to watch them because they are really well done and interesting and I will always learn something new from them =)
Thank you very much!
I don’t use a chainsaw every day maybe once a week or sometimes maybe once a month but I like chainsaws and I got two of them
You should get a chainsaw. They’re fun tools 🤪 and now you know which sharpener to get 😉
@@johnw1178
And if there something in your way just cut it
Your fairly scientific videos are the best maybe the only reviews that I trust. Keep up the great reviews USN Retired
Thanks for your service! Thanks and you are welcome!
regarding reviews... you don't know the half of it.
Some places have you sign a non-disparagement agreement before they send out review products (early release stuff).
There's a certain industry that is having a trade show this month that is pretty bad for "soft reviews".
I watched many other videos on saw-chain sharpening tools. This one was excellent. Lots of subject matter covered rapidly. Right to the point! Concise descriptions. Good use of fast-frame. Excellent editing! 5 stars! Thank you. I'm subscribing.
Thank you!
My only goal in life is to be called "Very impressive" by Project Farm
"we have twenty commenters here and we're going to see who comments the best"
thakita vs stihl
You do NOT want to know how he's going to test you to get that rating.
@@DiscoFang this is the most underrated comment on RUclips.
With a chuckle to boot 😂
Very impressive video! Getting right to the point and no wasted airtime.
Love how you gave all the tools a 2nd chance by resharpening the chains.
Thank you very much!
Another great test! I’ve used the Stihl 2in1 for a while yet and it’s hard to beat, especially in the woods away from a work bench.
Great point!
Totally agree! I bought one for each of the three chain sizes I use. Great tool! You can buy them directly from Pferd who makes them for Stihl.
Great video as always. I appreciate the time, effort and detail you put into each of your videos.
OUTSTANDING video. I fully appreciate how much testing you did. I found your video because I'm searching for a chain sharpener. It was truly eye opening to see so many different types when all I'd heard about was the one from Harbor Freight or manual files. Currently, my cost for sharpening is $5 per chain (off the saw) or $8 per chain (on the saw). Since I currently have 6 x 16" and 6 x 20" chains, you can see how, even at $5 per chain, the costs add up fast. Thank you for providing such detailed information and great explanations. I'm sub'ing your channel for more great videos like this.
Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
And if they are not careful, a tech sharpening the chain by machine can overheat the steel, which hardens it at the edge and makes it basically impossible to sharpen again with a file.
That’s amazingly cheap. It’s $10 our way off the bar. I started sharpening my own because of the cost and because they remove too much material they overheat the teeth turning them bluish. Nope, don’t want that. I’m much happier with the results sharpening it myself.
PS: I have a Northern tool electric grinder and the Stihl 2in 1. I prefer the 2 in 1. The bench grinder is nice the even out the length of the teeth. That’s it. Otherwise the Stihl is my go to.
@@coffeenclinic
Overheating steel (or any iron-based metal) like you're describing anneals it, making it softer, not harder... but you're 100% correct - it makes it almost impossible to sharpen again, and prevents it from holding an edge.
Appreciate learning that my Dremel tool with the proper stone is just fine; experience helps.
Thanks!
@TimothyPrice: exactly! I use my Dremel with a lawnmower blade guide every year, and it gives a nice, sharp cut.
Project Farm shows how the commercial products stack up against each other, but often I find none of the products are worth having😉
Are you sharpening the rakers as well, or just the cutters? I was a Dremel guy for years until I recently learned what I was doing. Dremel is great for cutters. Using it for rakers is dangerous unless you hand depth gauge each one. The Stihl 2 in 1 is definitely worth having. The 2/1=cutters and rakers. It automatically hits both while maintaining the proper ratio of cutter/raker. Way faster than depth gauging each raker. Worth having if you don't want to lose fingers.
Your warning seems a bit over the top. Been doing this for years and fingers are fine.
I always need to look through your old videos to understand how a specific product and technique works. Thanks again.
I love how the second Granberg is just the previous two combined.
Thanks for the feedback.
The most interesting part was cleaning them. That’s probably the first thing I need to do from now on.
I’ve always used the basic Oregon kit. I think I’m going to get the Stihl 2 in 1. It looks like the most versatile. Thanks for this video.
Thank you!
The stihl 2in1 is awesome.. I own several of the others and will never use them again... 2in1 is the bomb
The Stihl 2n1 is worth every penny. Grab a chainsaw stump vice as well and you can keep your saw sharp out in the field quickly.
Just remember that the 2n1 is only used on full chains such as what he was using. If you have a skip tooth for faster cutting of large wood you would want the other one.
Had not seen your channel until now, excellent Job!! I really love how you get through the material in a clear and speedy way, so many videos out that are time burners, like testing a log splitter by starting in the barn and showing hooking it up to the tractor!!!!
You could have your own TV show. I have used your videos a ton for selecting what to buy and what to stay away from. You are humble and honest in your testing.
Thanks so much!
Thank you for your tremendously thorough review !
I've got the Stihl 2-in-1 and for the money it sharpens so good and fast with no electricity needed - Lightweight too.
Thank you!
I've got the Stihl 2-in-1 also n it's the best sharpener when ur in the field.
@@roberthagberg5482 Yeah, I know - Once you've got one you wouldn't have anything else.
I have both the Stihl 2 in 1 and an Oregon bench grinder...the Stihl in my opinion is by far the best. And it can be used on site for quick touch ups. Another great video with real world results 👍 well done.
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
Best reviews I've ever seen. Unbiased and short to the point. Have you ever done one on the best water fittings? Shark bites, crimp rings, solder or compression.
Thanks so much!
the Stihl 2-in-1 is great in the field! i find it very useful!
I agree. It gets mine peeling better than a new chain. I’ve never been happier!
Thanks for sharing.
Yup, the ease of use in the field makes it the best in my opinion.
@@ProjectFarm I think it's possible to flip the sharpener instead of switching the blade out of vice. At least thats been my experience. Thanks for sharing
Used a Dremel with Sharpening stone for many many years, do it by eye. Always works fine. Maybe not optimal, but plenty sharp. Sharpening done ON the bar. easy to see what already done because layer of oil removed from blade done. (done most like the Stihl version)
Thanks for sharing.
Yep - same here - takes 2 mins for whole chain..
I file mine, but I was kinda thinking the same.
if you have bad eyes, you can just buy the dremel chain saw sharpening attachment.
Again, with perfect timing! Just had a nasty ice storm here in Oregon. I was lucky, power was only out for 24 hours. Some friends went over a week! But lots of oak limbs and some dead trees fell around the house so I have a couple very dull chains now. Thanks! 😁👍
You bet! Good luck!
I am very impressed by your thoroughness, precision, and attention to details. I especially liked the fact that you used a constant force for each cut by applying a weight to the chain saw. This has to be the definitive test of chain saw sharpeners. You put a lot of time, thought and effort into this and I thank you.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Project Farm: "When it comes to using a chainsaw, one of my least favorite things to do, is chain sharpening!"
Also Project Farm: *makes a video sharpening 9 chains all at once
Also Project Farm: "I hate getting punched in the face, so next video I'll be testing 12 different types of brass knuckles on my own face"
Thanks for watching.
@@MichaelMacGyver the fuck lol
Ah the sacrifice he's willing to make is most valued.
The Stihl 2 in 1 will make sharpening easy and no longer a chore. I have a Triton SuperJaws in my shop and I clamp a 5 inch C- Clamp in it and use that to clamp my bar and sharpen my chain on the saw with the 2 in 1. It's quick to clamp my saw and a good height to sharpen at. Takes about 5 mins to sharpen. In the field I just set the saw on the back of my truck, put the tip of the bar in my stomach (usually wearing a sweatshirt), sharpen all the top teeth, then rotate the chain. 3-4 times and I'm done. Probably 7 minutes that way.
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I'd love to see how the Oregon Powersharp system stacks up against these. Some regard it as a gimmick, but the 5 second sharpening process and reliable chisel profile is helpful especially for the inexperienced. I've found it useful on my ego power+ saw and my petrol one before that. Although more expensive to use, it does remove the safety risk of using a blunt chain or one that is out of balance due to improper sharpening. Pros and cons so a test would be great. Keep up the great work! Best regards from Sussex in Southern England!
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Wow, what a lot of effort you put into your videos, much appreciated! Earned my sub!
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Never been this early to a video
Really impressed that you went back to redo the tests after taking the time to figure out each sharpening system. Curious as to which ones had the greatest learning curve, as well as the easiest and hardest to set up.
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I found the stihl 2in1 to be pretty good. Here in australia we cut alot hardwood & have lots of termites so the wood often has dirt in it so chai wear is really bad so not only does the cutting edge go blunt quickly the height of the tooth wears also. The 2in1 not only sharpens but also reduces the height of the rakers. Alot of people have trouble sharpening chains because they dont realise the height of the rakers is important.
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As a professional woodcutter in Australia I agree completely. The Stihl 2 in 1 is easy to use and does need power. That means you can sharpen in the forest / bush every refuel which for me can be every hour or 30 min if really going hard on a Stihl 500i.
That does not need power.
@@49100CHPAmen.
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I’ve been recommending the Stihl 2 and 1 for years now I’m super happy to hear that it’s most definitely still a great recommendation
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I do not cut alot, but I have cut off and on for many years. Sharpening a chain has been hit or miss for me... the Stihl 2 and 1 works everytime, I will never go back. I tried the Oregon quick sharp and it didn't have a long life. Good for a few sharps, then cuts in a circle.
@@ProjectFarm found they work very good on " full house " but they are terrible on " skip tooth " chain
The Stihl 2 in 1 seems to be a clone of the Pferd 2 in 1, or perhaps it is made by Pferd for Stihl. Only difference being color of plastic and the Pferd is a few dollars less. They come in various chain pitches (ie file size) to match your saw chain. I've been using if for two years with a stump vise in the field, and haven't used my bench saw chain grinder since. Another advantage in using the 2 in 1 system is there is no chance of overheating the chain tooth as too often happened to me with the bench saw chain grinder.
@@roynajecki1100 how are they on skip tooth chain ?
Really great timing on this one. I've been thinking about buying a chain sharpener and it looks like I can save some money by just getting the field sharpener for my limited use. Thank you for the video!
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Thanks for a great review, I have been using the Stihl 2in1 for about 12 months on Ozzie hardwood and find it great but I use a stump vice in the field and a bench vice in the shed to hold the saw it makes life a lot easier
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The timberline chain sharpener would have been an ideal addition to this list. It's a unique system.
Personally I like to hand file and find that with practice you can get much sharper than factory and faster cutting which is usually determined by raker height adjustment.
Definitely!
Great point!
NICK has the secret. The raker/drags height!
I like to hand file as well. I use the oregon 12v infield for dirty logs sense it's so fast. You can definitely implement hand sharping skills in to the portable 12 v sharpeners.
@@WOODDIGDIY I think about getting a grinder but just don't. Asa long as I can file one there's really no need and as far as taking the drags down it's too much trouble to swap stones just for that and having to take the chain off the saw too. And I might have a spare chain but most of the time I don't. And I run Stihl chains because of holding an edge so well. I used to run Oregon till I tried a Stihl. I'll pay the extra for the extra cutting and most of mine is firewood that's been skidded so dirt is a regular deal. And I always clean, file and gas and oil after I get done so I'm ready to go when needed. And am using Tru-fuel and don't ever have to worry IF a saw will start. BLESSINGS 2 U!
“We’re going to test that” has become your trade mark.
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He should registered it. I used a DC attorney named Josh Gerben for mine. #2 attorney in the US for number of trademarks filed. Prices were *insanely* reasonable.
We need a t-shirt with the project farm logo that says " we're going to test that"
As usual, great information. I have used chain saws for over 50 years and have hated filing chain saws for decades. About 20 years ago I picked up grinding bits for my Dremel tool and my chainsaw sharpening miseries were over. No special jigs or holders were needed....just maintaining the correct angle by eye and grinding until stone nicks were gone has produced excellent results. Plus my Dremel can be used for all kinds of tasks. Keep up the good work. Great testing protocols, great subjects. Your wood glue testing deserves a national science award.
The work you put into these videos is impressive and much appreciated!
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You are really a reliable place, man, I use your videos as a source for many of my talks
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Another great video! I sharpened about 50 chains a week for around 2 years (rental yard) I also sharpened for a couple of competitive loggers. I used a commercial sharpening machine, and what I learned after all that was that there are a lot of ways to use tweaks in sharpening settings to ; improve chain life, speed up cutting, tune for ripping or crosscutting, or tune for safety. High rake teeth and shallow cut angles cause much less kickback, but work much slower. They also dull less quickly in dirty wood. Guess how I was instructed to sharpen chains in the Rental Yard?. It was great of you to do a second round after going through the learning curve. What do I use today? The Oregon Field Sharpening kit. Fast enough for me. I sharpen on a good tight section of damaged chain bar set up in my bench vice. This is caster and more precise than sharpening on the saw.
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Tried different kits and files and basically threw them into the bottom draw. What matters IMO is actually looking at the chain profile and sharpening it till it's razor sharp. And close to the right angle for the type of wood. I just use a 12 volt hand electric sharpener and change stones and sharpen really regularly. Learning what are sharp chain should really look like is the key. Depth gauges etc are a substitute for brains and frankly a waste of time. In Australia we cut real hardwood not mock wood. Your chain must be really sharp. And you need a proper saw.
Can’t believe I’ve watched you for a year or two and haven’t subscribed. Made sure I fixed that
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I use the Stihl 2 in 1 and have been very impressed with it. Very easy to use so right now I see no reason to try anything else. Great review
Great feedback on the Stihl
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You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for this video
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Im not sure if this would be up your alley, but getting you hands clean after a dirty job can be a pain without a good cleaner, would love to see you compare hand cleaner/soaps, such as glo-jo, snap-on's orange (imho the best,) man hand cleaner etc. Not sure how hard it'd be to compare them though.
As always, love your work PF, no one comes near to your level of unbiased straight facts
Great video idea! Thank you
I make my own hand cleaner, take a full box of Borax and mix in just enough water to make it the consistency of wet sand, then also mix in a quarter cup of Dawn dish soap and store in a sealable container. Now if you get pine sap or roofing tar on your hands spray some WD 40 on your hands and rub and follow up with the DIY soap and you will get clean.
Just got a Stihl 2 in 1 and I am very happy with it. Such a simple solution to sharpen where ever you go. A no brainer to get one if you are a not a pro. Speaking about the measurements hereyour last part really shows that is is also a lot about knowing how to use your tools cause you got way better results over all in the second round. It sort of leads me to the conclusion that the differences in round two might just be attributed to differences in the wood. We all know how much a hard twig or crossfibre can slow down the cutting.
All in all a nice demo. Will subscribe to your channel.
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You should do a “best hydraulic car jack”
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Yes I would like to see that.
Just bought the big daytona from HF. I hope I picked a good one lol
This!
That would be a great idea, I've bought a few that have really let me down for their durability