Keynote: Mike Shinoda & Mark Hoppus: Songwriting Live on Stage - Midem 2017
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2017
- Get a glimpse into the process and technology of the modern songwriter as Mike Shinoda co-writes and records a song from scratch, live on stage with Mark Hoppus from Blink-182.
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This is the definition of doing an assignment 30 mins before it's due
😂😂 so true
wow blinkin park
Binkin Bark
That's gold Jerry
I said Hey Blinkin, not Abe Lincoln.
i couldn't believe their true color, their influence, their character on a song is really really strong, at the first verse where mark use his lyrics melody and when mike add some little details which make the song totally different. i am speechless
Adi Mahendra haha nice buddy love it "blinkin park" or linkinhop
Doing this live in front of an audience would be crazy hard. Everyone just staring at you waiting for you to create magic.
yeah, 90% of the times garbage comes out when you try to force this process..............folks should not have pressure to create magic
this is a horrible idea tbh. its just very potential garbage
but i think even a bad song would have been good to teach them how difficult songwriting really is and that it's ok to have a song not pan out and be trashed.
+9board6 that depends on the person, some people can only write great under pressure
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Man, all the hate... Mark knows and openly admits he isn't super talented musically, he just loves doing this and the world keeps letting him. I was watching Hoppus on music recently and he was asked about why they don't do guitar solos and he straight up said "Because we aren't talented enough". He knows his niche is catchy songs, which is why I actually really like "Simple Creatures" I feel like it's the best fit for Mark at this point in his life.
so punk 🤩
hoppus looked like my dad learning email lol
LMAO
haha for real. cringedd
Ahhahahahah
marks humor was totally missed by the people there
You could say they *puts on pixelated shades*
Missed the Mark.
You made my day right there
Totally dude
Jacob Henry probably because he isn't that funny
Nah you just can't hear the audience laughing
I love how Mike turned this into a rap song and mark is just standing there
My 2 favorite artists since i was a child finally together. I'm dreaming.
dem lucky you
Don't lie
A bit unrelated, but I would have probably cried tears of happiness if Mark Hoppus gave me songwriting tips
oh hello there!
Liar
Mark Hoppus and Mike Shinoda, two of my favorites artist since 2000, its amazing seeing them writing together
aflliction especially on this international cyber platform
"We were doing a lot of 'Na na na na na'"
Steve Perry but him leaving is a big reason
zogatowa104 blink still made a better album than linkin park
Sober and Parking Lot are the only Na Na Na songs wtf 😂😂😂😂 2 out of 28 songs
fuck forgot about No Future. Still 3 of 28.
you forgot about Los Angeles and California too
Do you all think this could work as a TV show? Two different artists come together and write a 30 minute song? And talk about their process? Would this be something you would watch? Or is it only for musicians and music geeks?
Oh god this made me imagine all the possibilities. Like people from different genres coming up together and interviewing them and i wish this could happen
Yes, but have to be an hour long and a promised released single for every episode. Love to see Steven Tyler pair up with someone.
It would be great if the general public know and appreciate artists and art
@@electrifyingct-livestreams5115 Ideas like those are exactly what is _not_ going to make it happen.
Too big of a deal, too many moving parts with different companies and labels trying to work together.
Aye Yuh Aye Yuh yes
Watching this and I'm just thinking how unbelievable a Blink and Linkin Park would have been...just the thought of two different genres colliding.
I'm positive Mark and Mike could make pretty solid stuff even now.
I am a huge Linkin Park stan, I always knew about Blink and heard What's My Age Again a million times because of my dad but I only became a massive Blink stan too now since that Linkin Park/Blink 182 dating video that came out before they were supposed to go on tour lol strange way to really decide to listen to more Blink I know but I don't regret it lol
Blinkin Park as a name?
Mark & Mike both legends in their own respective styles!, Don't ever change mark, know that some of us that grew up with you will always be here, you're talented af and you changed our generation in your own way, Just like LP has.
Given more time and a better chance to collaborate instead of a 30mins on spot they couldve made an incredible hit. First of all this show was lame. You don't drop artists together and get them to explain how they do it. Look at both of them how they grew up and came from nothing but passion to make music. This isn't some class or ripoff demonstration put under a spotlight.
Every artist and musician knows the time spent and the thoughts and being let doen and the frustration, the lack of inspiration for them to sing it in their songs so the rest of us can live through their words that carry us on. You guys can hate. But what you're seeing is legendary in this day and age and will never be forgotten. People that changed the world through their music. I'm a fan of both and if it wasn't for Mark I'd never have known happiness in life and living those years. If it wasn't for Mike I would've never gotten back up and what it's like to recover from being down in the dumps. They are both my ups and downs. They are both a part of who I am today.
I never tried this hard to write songs. I just wrote songs. You have an idea and write a story about it, or you play a tune and then write a story about it. It's interesting to see Mike get so technical. I remember hearing Mark 15 or more years ago talk about songwriting and say something along the lines of if you can't think of words you just say na, na, na. Also, if you write something and it sucks you just call it art and no one can complain. Both of these guys are great musicians and songwriters. Mark is great
always left in awe by mike... by linkin park for that matter. every single ounce of my being has loved those men for 17 years. Mike is and always will be the most talented in my eyes.r.i.p chester.
Mike is unreal , I would love to watch that dude get after it in the studio!
MrJdub322 yes! Extremely passionate in the work he does. Its mesmerizing
This is truly amazing, takes a lot of balls as a musician to go out and show everybody how you go about writing your songs
This shows how treuly talented Mike Shinoda is. Look at what he created in like 30 seconds. He made the meat and bones for that entire song. That guy is so incredible.
also it was prewritten did you not listen
@A A ffs its 30 minutes mike spends days on a single song
@thenoodleshop its 30 minutes. while simultaneously working with a musician who is from a completely different genre and talking to an audience. not that mike cant do it, but it's obviously not gonna be the same as him doing his thing as usual
Great bridge example: “Feeling This” by Blink-182
MIKE NAILED IT!!! HE BROUGHT IT TO LIFE. IN NO TIME. BLOODY PASSIONATE!!!
Mike Shinoda what an artist... If we have some hope about LP since Chester's gone, that because we have Mike.
love this. teared up a bit when mike mentioned chester.... RIP CB
Just one month away from that day
I don't know why it is so fascinating to watch Mike work.. I could watch this kind of shit for days.
You're not alone, sis :D He's just amazing and inspiring.
I think part of me hopes that I'll become even the slightest bit more talented. He's great at many things, I'm like maybe ok at a lot of things but not particularly great at any of them xD I need him to teach me his ways.
They just went for it :) that's what I am going to do in the morning; best of luck to you
I could watch mike shinoda and Dave Grohl write stuff all day
he's on twitch every weekday doing just that nowadays ;)
I could watch Mike make music all day
Only Mark Hoppus could turn a beautiful beat into a Blink song
LMFAOOO
Mike Shinoda is easily one of the most talanted guys on this planet. Rapper, singer, producer, artist..
Not at all.
fuck you pig
I don't think it was "safe" considering how many fans they're gonna lose because of it.
David Reece you're an idiot. look at my december, in the end, numb, linkin park have been doing pop longer than you know.
lol but youre not a millionaire musical talent selling millions of records with the #1 album in the u.s.......youre just a loser commenting on his videos
... Because he writes every note and he writes every line
And I've seen him at work, when that light goes on in his mind
It's like a design is written in his head, every time
Before he even touches a key or speaks in a rhyme
... #mikeshinoda everybody!!!
Remember when he said he would switch it to minor ;) Fort Minor.
Was in the front row for this! Had a blast meeting both Mark and Mike, super down to earth dudes.
As soon as I heard that first guitar strum I knew it was all over
Mark has a lot of patience for Mike , shows his versatility as a musician , Mike added much needed depth , special moment for a rough draft
I love how they are aware it could go terrible and still try to do it. I remember watching this and being excited that LP were about to play Singapore that year..but we all know what happened. 😭
you got two guys writing a song from scratch in front of a audience with many different expectations. as a song writer myself I know that can be difficult. song may not be a hit but its definitely a learning process for everyone watching. great job
*final lyrics:*
sat at the back of the wall
played at the back of a bar
another drink
another day
another thing we'll never say
fucked up
said it today
left you bleeding away
left the things to burn
and now we're burning today
the summer we began to love
CHORUS:
let's fall apart
fall forever
let's fall apart
let's fall forever
let's fall together
we'll fall apart
((nana's))
I actually love this.
I think it's awesome..
Mike is an instrumental genius!!!!
This sounds like rebel girl by angles and airwaves
Wow.... I was thinking the same thing
Omg I was thinking the same thing
holy shit never heard it till now
“Angles” and Airwaves hahahahaha
Peter oh shit😂😂
Shinoda doing music is sexiest thing ever.
LTH AVN Yes. He had me feeling some type of way when he was getting into making the beat.
He seems like an arrogant control freak to me.
They should do this same thing with Jack Black and Dave Grohl.
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!
That would not be the greatest song in the world. It would just be a tribute
@@tomking7039 😂😂😂
Isn't that what the video for Low By Foo Fighters is??
it's so sad sometimes I watch mark or blink and realize how they've aged and it's crazy. I literally grew up listening to these guys and still am. i don't give a flying fuck what dumbass remarks will surely be put on this comment but I was such a die hard fan of blink that when they first broke up I skipped school for like 3 days. later when Travis was in his accident I flipped shit. u feel a certain connection with a group of individuals that make music which speaks to u or sums up your life. even if those don't apply u just know when u have something special and if it wasn't for blink I probably wouldn't have explored different genres of music or even different bands. for awhile it was only blink. the self titled album blasted out of my stereo every damn day. I got my first drum set when I was 6 so once I was able to read music I learned every note and every beat from every album. I play the shit on my sleep. if there are any drummers here please..(with all seriousness) do any of u make beats in your head, with your fingers, hands, clicking your tongue or just play with everyday objects? it's so bad that I sometimes turn my blinker on in traffic to match the persons blinker Infront of me which acts as my metronome.
You are very obsessed with music. I can relate to that. :)
Well I am not the musician, but I am a dancer. Just like for you it was Blink 182, for me it was Linkin Park. I've been listening to them since the beginning - I can't believe I was only 6 years old. I can't even remember my life before them anymore.
It was Mike who motivated me to start dancing, particularly it was his remix of the song Enjoy The Silence back in 2006. I always was very passionate about the music and the first time I heard this remix, I just couldn't stay still. So I started to dance in my own room, even tho I had no clue how to dance. I just let my body move freely to the music - and after that I realised what a fuckin wonderful feeling it was. So I started to attend the dance classes... and now, more than a decade ago, it's become my living. So I have pretty much to be grateful for.
By the way that thing you described - about you making up drum beats in your head - is relatable for me too. I listen to music pretty much all the time, and sometimes it inspires me and I start to imagine in my head how I would move to that. Basically I create my dance choreographies when I'm in grocery store or when I walk my dog. :D
While I was never as die hard of a Blink fan like yourself (skipping school for 3 days? XD) I can definitely relate as a drummer to always tapping my fingers/hands/feet/nearest object to the rhythm of a song stuck in my head, especially if I'm having trouble learning it I'll play at different speeds just to get down the basic pattern!
I'm not a drummer I'm a guitarist but I totally relate to always thinking about music like that and even I always tap to a beat in either 4/4, 3/4, or 6/8 time and I'm always humming melodies and thinking of different lyrics to go with them in my head. My songwriting process isn't just when I'm at my guitar but it's all the time
Logan Light ALL THE TIME. I'm constantly either tapping, tapping teeth together or just doing something that feels like a rhythm. It feels like a disorder. It means music's in you.
Harry...dude yeah..I chatter my teeth and make beats like that. I've been playing drums since I was 7 and when I learned how to read sheet music I could write my own stuff so ever since I can't stop making beats in my head or whatever I feel like using. I seriously thought like..I was insane or something. I might be anyway but I'm glad I'm not alone lol...makes me feel better. Its cool to see other people replying.
I could watch this kinda thing all day
MIKE'S A GENIUS. KEEP IT UP MAN!!👍
Now I can see where all the Nana's and whoas come from....
I think this was a great view of how to start writing the music; I loved this so much!!!
I would pay to hear a "finalized" version of this song.
Sev Pha why this is garbage
Me as well Sev Pha. Would be dope once they put some more time into it.
Sev Pha same
i wouldnt
Only a month and 13 days later, Chester was gone, RIP🖤
Mark Hoppus rocks!
except in this video. he was pretty quiet
Eric Coombs he looks bothered, like he didn't want to be there
Miguel Guerrero he's actually always said he loves teaching and inspiring youngers dude
🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
I wanted to hear more Mark... Mike is great!! But I mean come on... It's Mark friggin Hoppus the king of choruses
This is really cool. Linkin park and blink are two of my favourite bands so it’s awesome to see their styles come together
I've learned much more in this video than in 2 years of guitar lesson's.
Fire your instructor.
They should just get this song done!Fucking awesome watching these two creating music!Just so amazing looking at Mike working,so passionate in what he's doing. That's what an artist should be like. Blinkin Park 182!
I did not have 33 minutes free but I made 33 minutes free for this. That was dman interesting to watch. Mike is like a Jedi. Mark was there also. I want more lyrics.
Mike has the easiest job of giving mark a loop while mark tries to “make something” of it imo
Mike Shinoda is a genius. ♥
ohhh that classic pop punk chord progression....
Right because we are all expecting some john petrucci chord progressions from mark
You could clearly see how mike is still programmed to do songs the way they've used to do it. Lay down a track and then the lyrics.
guys you need to realise that they are just giving an example of what they do in the studio, its not like they had a lot of time to write like you would in a studio so can we just be respectful of what they just made instead of saying to many 'nanananas' or they came up with that riff before hand. yes they did because if your a song writer you have two sides, one being i can can up with a riff straight away ive got nothing to worry about and one being oh god i cant fit anything in with these lyrics vise versa. this is just my open opinion so dont yell, i just think that in the time that they had they did a lot more than most people could in a day.
20 minutes, and already half a song its huge progress. My band has been songwriting and rehearsing for 7 months already and we have roughly 6 songs and none of them are the final version. People just like to mess up whenever they can...
Songwriting probably isn't for you then. Ive been in a project for two months and we already have 17 songs written, 11 are on our first album coming out next month. We can write a song in 20-30 minutes.
Michael Bell Um no dude, im surely not a songwriter, but im a composer,and our vocalist is the lyricist and he is damn good. I have tons of tracks( mainly the guitar and bass with simple drum tracks) its when we try to blend together what we have that takes time,since the last comment we have found a middle ground to work and we have four new tracks and completed the arrangements for the past six. This video actually helped. And im glad that your band works so fast, but i could never say a song is finished in 20 minutes, we usually get the idea (chords, rhytm, main lyrics) in that timeframe, but we will comeback to it to rework it and add stuff many times after...
Michael Bell writing a song that quick all the time doesn't make you even a remotely good song writer, though I'm sure a select few of yours are bangers I'll give you that
Aleksey Daziel yea, I agree but if you've been writing for 7 months and only have 6 songs completed, that might be an issue. Especially once you are on a label and they are expecting new material in a timely manner. That's where lots of bands get in trouble, rushing songs to meet label deadlines and putting out subpar music. I guess it all depends on how much time you spend writing. If you're only getting together a few times a month then that's not usually productive. I'm just in a duo so it's guitar and vocals to drum tracks, so it's a bit easier. We just wrote and recorded 4 songs in a little over two hours the other night. I had the riffs laying around, we came up with the melody and lyrics to it and recorded it, done. But everyone works differently.
Very good hands on songwriting process fair play to the lads to do this in front of a live audience taks guts which they have .We all work in different ways .Great songs take a long time to make them great a lot of hard work as we all know .well done guys .It was a pleasure to see you work fair play to you .Well done Variety and Midem. Cant wait to go back there this year with our new album
Mark looks so old, I can't believe how the time pass because I grew up with their music and they always looked like eternal teenagers.
This was very refreshing to see. Mark has been a major influence on my bass playing and songwriting in general, so being able to watch him writing a song on the spot gave me some insight on how he proceeds, how he comes up with vocal lines, etc...I only wish he grabbed bass instead of the guitar (or asked for an acoustic).
His basslines just follow the guitar
What a geniuses! imagine if they make an album together.
the passion that mike is showing is incredible..he's so much involved
This is one of the coolest things ive ever seen.
If mark can make money being a musician then we can too!
it's not about the money. It's about elitists commenting on youtube.
Mike’s doing all the stuff and Mark’s just looking at him doing strange shit😂
I love that beat and keys!
GOD DAMMIT! give these two guys a studio and two weeks, and an ep contract.
Shinoda is one man show..impressive
i couldnt imagine trying to write totally on the spot, on a stage, with a packed audience, and with someone ive never worked with before. damn that would be intimidating
My eyes were just stuck with my Shinoda right there. Like damn! Like he age just a year old after 2000. And I'm also glad he's doing his process live on Twitch. It was a blessing during this pandemic. Go check it out. He also draw sometimes. ❤
Two talent levels here, I love Mark but Mike is obviously worlds ahead when it comes to creativity and hasn't been playing the same power chords for the last 20+ years.
Andy Munoz yeah well if you think about the fact that THEY ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ARTISTS and that they write songs COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY then maybe you wouldn’t be so quick to judge Mark for the artist that he is so don’t judge a book by its cover (basically)
They are going for two completely different genres. Blink 182 is also not AC/DC or Black Sabbath. Everyone knows blink songs are simple chords, but the way they combine different riffs off those chords and combine them with their genre of music is what makes them popular. if anything, tom and mark coming out of high school and barly knowing how to play an instrument is probably what made them so good, they kept it simple. Then the best drummer in the world joined them and they added a 3rd song writer they could fit the simple chords into. Also some of blinks riffs are very unique and catchy, which is what makes a good artist. Blink was always a punk band at heart.
chaser When did Neil Pert join Blink 182? Am I missing something?
Dude you have no idea. Mike didnt write anything he just added tracks. Anyone could do it if they have time. He dossnt even ply the instruments. I know its live but what he said was he just sits down and evolves ideas that Chester came up with, the only songwriter in LP. A better match would have been Chester and Mark because they actually write songs.
@@thomaskyprios8086 This is incorrect.
Hoppus is bang on about the bridge section of a song. I'm thinking of songs like Violence and What's my age again where the whole feeling of the song changes due to the bridge and it works woderfully. He done this really effectively in +44 songs too like baby come on and Chapter 13. These two guys are great, they simply make good music that people want to listen to.
Two great bands:)
Wow the two greatest on stage together doing magic
All of the guitar and vocal melodies sound like every Blink song.
almost like the guy was from Blink
F1337 no way
really?
Not the point I was making. I'm saying he's gotten away with writing mediocre songs forever.
Probably got something to do with the fact that mark is from blink 182? I could be wrong though
Mike Shinoda a Musical Genius
chaflanful yes he is, so talented!
Really wish mark said no to C maj. he's even said before that he struggles to sing in this key
which is funny considering how many blink songs are in it haha
Hey I watch ur vids
Mr Dude ahh that's cool!💯💯
soooo many 'mark songs' are in C. no idea why he keeps playing it, maybe he enjoys the sound idk
For The Oracle he can't sing in that key because it's too low or to high for his voice to reach the notes
I love your post! 🤟🏻
Thank you for sharing. That is great
got my tickets to blinkin park in hershey. I haven't gone soft since the tickets came in the mail
Mark wasnt prepared for the finish :(
this was really cool to watch
Mark comes with the catchy part and Tom is a decent song writer that’s what made blink 182 great and Mike’s a talented musician he almost revealed everything about songwriting here didn’t actually expected this from them
bro said decent. tom deserves better lmao]
The audience had to listen to that 4-note pattern at least a thousand times that day.
Ah oh
Mark talking about bridges really made me think of Feeling This.
This shows the musicianship that Mike has. Magic happens behind the keys
This is amazing. I love Blink-182 and Linkin Park, so this is just great.
I need more of this! I would love to see how full bands write with each other or 2 random members of two different bands is good to.
I am not a Linkin Park Fan. Not at all. But, man, that Mike Shinoda knows his shit and seems to be a really nice dude.
So interesting. Especially with two of my favorite song writers. I must say though, Ben Folds is another favorite of mine, and he would go beast mode with 10 minutes to write a song, let alone 30. Funny thing is, it would be good too. So cool how the process is different for everyone. Good on Mark and Mike. Really enjoyable to watch. They both are giants.
This is F’n awesome!
Mark: *Pulls up the same chords from all his songs*
Mike: *Builds the entire song and engages the audience*
Mark: "Good work! I love writing!"
The stuff Mike came up with sounded like some of the stuff I made messing around trying to learn reason in GCSE music. And Mark writes songs using only basic sounds with attitude.
Horrendous cross over. A guy who wants to try and be smart and technical trying to make a pop rock dance track, and a pop punk minimalist who, lets be honest, was the backup song writer for the band. Since Box car racer with tom and tavis sounds like blink 182. +44 and california with mark and travis doesnt sound like blink 182.
@@KeziaKez it was still literally 30 minutes though. mike spends hours on every song. they are both humans. the magic doesnt always happen instantly. mike wanted to build things in pieces and tweak it but again, 30 minutes.
That's Mark's style tho. And they are just showing the process of writing. Doesn't necessarily need complex chords and stuff. I'm sure Mark's just going basic to get through this real quick. Sometimes simple shit is all you need. That's also the magic in writing
@@KeziaKez you did not just call Mark hoppus a back up song writer, you evil human
I kinda wish I could see this with just Mike. But without the time constraint and pressure -- just seeing the process from spark to finish.
this ti so cool mike
OMG, both are incredibly talented and I love them but, watching this, is like PLEASE, MARK, COME UP WITH SOMETHING
Hahaha Mark sitting there like we gonna write a song or polish a melody 30 times? I respect what Mike does though 100 percent. Just different styles.
Mark uses the same peogression like in every california song :)
MrPoppunker182 ummmmm what?
marks job was to write the lyrics and vox melody but cos mike kept talking about changing it he never even bothered to do it! mike is a beast and mark can write a pop punk song everyday of the week but in 30mins on a stage it was more about the tips they gave in the talking then what they were writing together,,, all and all pretty cool :)
Two legends on that stage! I would have lost my sh*t
MIKE A LEGEND
I love this. It was just a 30+ minute video and they were able to come up with something that has a lot of potential. I understand that it's hard to hand a master painter a paint brush and a wall and tell em to "have'at'it" but Mark and Mike did an amazing job at explaining and even showing the audience (and us) the basis to creating a song. Notice they didn't mentioned ANYTHING about creating a "HIT" song? They just focused on making "A" song and didn't really care about what it sounded like. Awesome!
Hey that's great thank you for sharing
That was fuckin cool id love to see them get together and make a full song and see what they come up with!