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- College differences between the USA and Germany! There are a lot of similarities and differences between German and American universities and colleges. It was interesting to talk about the differences between our college experiences. :)
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00:00 - College / University Difference (USA vs Germany)
00:28 - College / University Differences #1
02:04 - College / University Differences #2
04:25 - College / University Differences #3
08:53 - College / University Differences #4
11:53 - College / University Differences #5
16:14 - College / University Differences #6
19:50 - College / University Differences #7
23:40 - What are colleges or universities like in your country?
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It was interesting to talk about some of the similarities and differences between our college experiences! These are based on our college experiences. Let us know some of the difference that you notice! 🤗💜
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It sounds like Germany realizes having educated citizens benefits the entire country.
Actually only 27% of Germans are college educated comparing to 44% in the US!
@@robertvance552 That's only due to the different definition of college. The 'Trade school' takes a much bigger share. Something like a nurse, or the "driver of a railway" is not going to college nor is it called an engineer. In US you already need to college to do accounting. This has the rank of painting walls, in germany. While it's not downgrading the accountants, it's upgrading the painters. The term we use is "having an academic degree" to distinguish from other trades. In this rates is currently around 50% among the learners, but it used to be 10% 50 years ago, when we had more miners, metal workes, textil, agriculture and so on. That's why the rate in the entire population is in average just 27%.
it wouldn't be as developed and prosperous if it didn't.
and if you were wandering,
the American education system is the most comprehensive, the most complex, the most complete, the most advanced... by far, the best in the world. which is the reason why The US is the most advanced country in the world, so yeah, you can even say America realizes the benefit of education better than anyone else.
@@holger_p Actually 27% and 44% are the rate of people with tertiary education so it already contain trade schools. for further information you can check the OECD statistic website, it has all of the data in details.
@@mariacheebandidos7183 Are you making fun, or are you serious ? I mean such a ranking doesn't exist and any statement of this kind is pure patriotism and cannot be fact based.
In Germany one needs to pay 300-600 EUR per semester depending on the university, this also includes the transportation fees (public-transport-semester-ticket) which in some states is optional but in other ones is by-default included. Of course, it is nothing compared to the USA, but "free" sounds a bit like "zero dollar".
Rather this than $30,000 for JUST tuition lmfao 💀💀💀
I'd also add that in the US it is more about a college degree and what college you went to. People often work in a completely different field afterwards (there is a lot more changing jobs and fields in general). While in Germany you study a very specific subject with the intend to work that particular job. You would never have random courses like you can choose from in the US within your curriculum. You can only select ones related to your subject.
Another funny aspect are the "forever" students in Germany. Since it's so affordable, there are some people who study for years and years and years.
Yeah, but that problem is usually overstated. A lot of students who fall into the category are working some second job in the relevant field, so they eventually either make a career out of their second job or they finish their degree and then enter the job market with both practical and theoretic experience. Or they are raising a child by the side. And those who genuinely don't turn up to their courses or do only one or two per year, they don't really cost the university anything extra, because the number of professors aso are based on how many people are actually sitting in the courses, not based on how many people theoretically turn up.
Zonker Harris at Walden College in the Doonesbury comic strip spent eight years at a four-year college before starting his career as a stoner. The UK used to have "chronic" students like that, who had family money to support them, but they seem to have faded away by the 1960's.
Why do you want to study for years? That sounds so crazy. You would have to pay me.
Those who cannot work teach ..and those who cannot teach nor work ..study ...
Forever students= lazy losers
In the US, a university is usually a collection of colleges under one name.
basically a big corporation
Could it be that in the US the high tuition is partially to blame on all the sports, the associated cost of facilities like the stadiums, the indoor and outdoor arenas, student travel to all the different events, etc? It's a big money making machine. Looks to me as if German colleges and universities focus on real academics. Want to play sports, be a cheerleader, play in a band? Sure, but what does that have to do with higher education, especially at the level it's being practiced in the US?
It's more about making profits
It's just the American way! You pay for expensive stuff
Well they gotta boost interest to fund their sports teams somehow, because that’s where the profits roll in.
Sports bring in so much money to the college, like 100's of millions. It also attracts more students.
Here in the U.S., we don't have an equivalent of your 'fachhochschule', which is unfortunate because we lack professions like craftsmanship...Germany seems to have a strong support system and government subsidies for people in a broader range of 'working with hands' professions...and agriculture!
yeah that's true. Since we don't have a lot of natural ressources, or tourism etc. we go all out on education. ;)
We do have vocational/technical schools in the US though. They offer things like welding, electrical, auto mechanics, drafting and carpentry. You can sometimes even take some of those type of classes part time during the last couple years of high school. I took cosmetology in high school, but never got my license.
I then went back to a vocational school as a young adult, 26 years old, and took nursing. I did get my practical nursing license.
@@DeanaandPhil It's not that we don't have many natural resources, it's that culturally we don't honor professions, such as craftsmen, farmers and others who can do 'hand-skilled' labor. Socially, there's a hidden stigma about laborers, etc. (they don't measure up). The truth is that there's global, collective greed for "high-end" professions, which carry high-salaries, prestige and comfortable lifestyles. Let's face it.
@@lisao7600 Yes, you're correct about that, but not on the level of European countries to my knowledge...they place a broader degree of focus on non-university skills and offerings.
A small specification, in Germany there is the dual training system for craft and trade in two variations: a) vocational training (company) and theoretical lessons at a vocational school, b) vocational training and study at a university / university of applied sciences, private university ~ based on an agreement with the Chamber of Crafts or Chamber of Commerce. Studying directly after graduation does not correspond to a full craft profession, since you are almost exclusively concerned with the development with machines etc., but not with repairs, maintenance, installation.For most craft professions, someone who wants to become self-employed needs a master's degree, which is awarded under the supervision of the chambers of crafts at special vocational schools. You have to make a masterpiece for the practical test (examples: part of an engine, special haircut / or a wig, etc.)In order to strengthen yourself for the financial side of your own company, you can also acquire the "Business Administration of Crafts" at a few universities.
Wow. In the UK we have a computerised system for all universities and you write one application and put up your grades. Then you get offers. It's really easy to use!
What’s it called?
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can international students use it too?
@@nondairymilk1689 yep. But the UK is very expensive.
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hey, that's awesome! Weird time to experience a country for the first time. I hope you like it! :)
@arizbe Ramirez you are so lucky 💕💕 even I wanted to go to Germany 😞
Hope you like it here :)
Until about 12 years ago, students in Germany that wanted to study highly demanded subjects such as medicine, architecture, psychology etc. could not apply at individual universities, but had to apply at a centralised agency (ZVS - Zentralstelle für die Vergabe von Studienplätzen) that would allocate students to available spots in those disciplines across universities around the country. The higher a student's grade average from school would be, the higher the chances of being accepted at all and of being allocated to a preferred university (from that student's individual preference list). As far as I know, this system is still in place for some medical programs.
That's interesting! I never had too much to do with Medicine students, so their system is quite unfamiliar to me. :)
That sounds so bureaucratic. but maybe it's better this way? who knows.
It's still in place for medicine, psychology and pharmacy
I went to two different community colleges and transferred to a university. Community colleges are great because there are fewer distractions; it is almost entirely centered on getting your GE's done so you can transfer to university and it is very cheap so you end saving a lot of money. I completed my education at the most infamous party school in America: San Diego State University. I did not party at all. I did not do any extracurriculars. I focused solely on my classes and my major. Thanks to my hard work and savviness with money I was able to graduate with a major I love and be debt-free.
Hey William I am high school student from Germany who really wants to study law later on in the USA. I wanted to ask about studying costs of a community College there, let's say majoring PPE? Thank you
@@samouelhemati7530 The costs of community college vary from state to state, but the average is around $8,000 a year. And usually, there is financial aid that can greatly offset those costs.
Regarding your interest in law and majoring in PPE, it is often the case that CCs don't have such majors. Most CC's have associates degrees and technical certifications. The primary function of a CC is to transfer you to a university.
PPE is a specific major and not all universities have it, although I'm pretty sure many do. I believe my alma mater, San Diego State University has a PPE major.
Regarding law, many students come into university as pre-law majors, but that is not necessary to get into law school. You can do PPE and still get into law school. Keep in mind, too, that law school is a post-graduate level of education. You won't be able to go to law school without a BA.
And law schools cost a lot, as well. They may have financial aid to help you out but it varies from school to school, and state to state.
I hope that helps. Good luck to you.
The biggest issue in the US’s high student debt is that teaching is a field less people go in to. I had teachers in high school in their forty’s that were still in debt. This has caused a shortage of teachers because people don’t want to be stuck in that much debt with such low pay after college.
You just made me realize how much I miss college time!
After graduating from junior high school I wanted to go to vocational school to get a specific profession at the age of nineteen. Unfortunately, vocational schools were badly associated, so my family did not agree to my studying at such a school. So I decided to make my dreams come true and I graduated from law school. After graduating from law school, we have an application that takes over three years. The application costs a lot, but there is no compulsion to go to it right after graduation. You can do it at any time. I decided to go to work. It has now been three years since I graduated from law school, and I still haven't decided to take the entrance exam for the application. It turned out that I prefer to learn foreign languages, because their knowledge gives me better prospects for a good job than a legal application. What a pity.
And I could graduate from vocational school and become a confectioner, for example.
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This was very informative! Thanks for sharing! PS You two are matching in this video 😜
that's true, thanks a lot! 😬
I assume uni is not free for foreign students studying in Germany. In the us, we like foreign students because they pay full tuition, not in-state tuition
Well you asked how partying is for German students right now, but all I ever experienced since I´ve started studying thanks to Covid is sitting in front of my laptop alone in my room. I haven´t even been in the college building yet... prettty strange times!
Hey, thanks for doing this video!
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Sorry for commenting the third time 😂
We do have a Quidditch Team on my University, too.
I'm in the second semester and I'm looking forward to the day I can see my University from inside the first time. It was locked down before I started...
This is so interesting ❤️
The key is “if you’re smart enough” or “willing to put in the effort and study” then free education is good. I bet if US did this every can attend then the majority will flunk out and waste tax payers money. I’m an American that worked in Germany and seen benefits of their system. The students need to prove their worth by passing an exam before going to college.
So in the Netherlands the System has some similarities with the German version. You have three brought highschool levels. Decided to which you go is depending on elementary school and an final test. The biggest of which is the school that prepares one for craftsmanship education, which takes 4 years. Then you learn a craft and you have 4 levels of those craftsmanship schools. That is almost all practical education.
Then there is the preperation for applied sciences. Which takes 5 years. It is somewhat advanced but does not focus on research techniques and scientific research.
That would be the last level. Of which there are two types, that take 6 years and are Scientific education preparation levels. Gymnasium which includes Latin and or Greek and Atheneum which replaces that with other courses.
Within each level you have to choose a set of courses that you keep doing after the first three or two years depending on the level. That makes you legible for a set of higher education programs you can follow.
So the scientific education all are Bachlor of Science, arts or Law. If you for example have done the Economy and Society in highschool without Physics' then you cannot do many of the Beta sciences. I tried CS for one year but found it too boring so changed. 15% approx. is legible for this type of education. Then 20% is legible for the Applied sciences. Which are Engineering, applied psychology, managment. Mostly they are 50% research on how to apply science to a specific professional field. In my case I study Aviation and do the major of operation. Some like Aviation are Bachlors of Science due to the course being almost at the same level as scientific education. Often more difficult for people from highschool for the applied sciences level.
It is meant for mostly education for managment functions.
The scientific education takes often three years and the applied sciences takes fours. Mostly due to the later needing a year of apprenticeship and then a final reasearch thesis. While in the former it is one of the two. Nobody gets why.
Since i went to university we can get loans for the 2000 euro we have to pay for tuition. The rest is payed for by the government to the schools.
This instead of gifting the money if you finish the school. In exchange for investments in better education. Because this did not happen the year i switched the tuition halved for a year. Except for me because I had already started a study earlier. For those they get a check to study extra after finishing school. Although i might miss that option due to me switching. I feel like i get screwed over.
Back in the day, we majored in Partying! :)
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Like you difference videos ... Maybe you can Talk about topics likes insurances, health systens (midwifery as example). Like you guys 🥰🥰
thank you Thomas. Insurances and health system is actually a good idea! I think many people have strong opinions about that. :D
I’m not in college yet but I know for myself and the people I know partying isn’t as appetizing now compared to how it used to be.
I mean I’m a bit of an introvert so that may have something to do with it but personally I don’t really wanna stay up late surrounded by a bunch of people and get drunk.
I think having the sports clubs outside of the college is a good thing, because when you graduate you don’t have to Stopp with your sports group only because of graduation.
I love videos that compare life here in the US vs other countries. I graduated with $30,000 of student loan debt 16 years ago. I just made my last payment because I paid it off early I paid off $11,000 in the last two years.
Yeah, a lot of possibilities to party in Göttingen during semester. I'm from nearby Kassel and am always baffled that Göttingen is dead between semesters. O.o All university students left town and it's pretty empty. In Kassel you don't recognize this as much.
Hey, I study in Göttingen in Germany. It is nice to know that you also study here.
Liebe Grüße aus Göttingen...
Uni Gö!!!
Well, I studied Biochemistry in Cologne and for us there was simply no time for partying throughout the week (everyday 8am lecture) and on the weekends most of the students were at her parents. But some faculties are in general partying more, I often ran into promoters which told me to which party I should go 😅 but hey the beer was cheap or free (Freibier) is still a huge thing
Things changed a lot with the Bachelor degree. I started withbtge old system and switched tracks. First it was pretty easy going but for my Bachelor I started at 7 to 8 am and usually finished my work around midnight.
I am studying Biochemistry and Molecular Biology in America.....in a small liberal arts school because I was stupid as a high schooler....and yeah I get to drink maybe every 2 or so weeks on fridays after exams but other than that its literally all work
But remember "Fachabitur" also makes you eligible for certain fachhochschulen as far as i am aware
I did my fachabi in metalltechnik and for certain jobs in that industry you can get bachelors/masters and i would be able todo those
yep, that's true! A lot of small details and differences throughout Germany as, well. We couldn't cover everything in an already long video. :)
@@DeanaandPhil thats what the comments are for so people can dive deeper into the topics
I think as a high school student back in 2007 who also had a German foreign exchange student living with me for the year:
Germany - Educational and focused.
America - Best 4 years of your life (and all that educational stuff too)
That’s why people in Europe are smarter than most Americans
Ihr könnt Gedanken lesen...ich frag mich das schon die ganze Zeit!
University sports: don't forget sports like floorball, canoe polo or ulitamte frisbee. :-D
There are "Hochschulmeisterschaften" German College Championships for this and other sports too.
But of course nothing is as important as the winner of the Bierstaffel, which is a real event from the institute for sport and when people run and drink bier.
I was told that at the University of Clausthal you could even do a Segelflugschein (glider plane license) in the earlier days. When I remember the story right it was in cooperation with the glider plane club in Bad Gandersheim.
Great videos. I have subscribed. :) One video that would be very helpful for me to understand the difference between German and America, is what happens after to college/uniersity. i.e., in Germany: Studium, ausbildung, training phase (3 years), practicum, internship etc. It seems very different from the U.S. where in most jobs, you finish school submit your resume and try to get a job. I spoke with a German who said, for example, a Frisoer (hairdresser) would train 3 years in a salon (not at a beauty school/college) where he or she was getting their "ausbildung." They would be paid at a lower rate (so they are not paying tuition to this salon) and then at the end of the 3 years, the salon might hire them or not, and if not, they would look for a job somewhere else, but already have their "ausbildung." Very different from U.S. I think.... and very confusing! I would love to have you guys explain this whole post education process! Vielen Dank! Annette
Hallo Ihr Beiden, ich schaue eure Videos echt gerne :) manchmal wünschte ich mir Ihr würdet deutschen Untertitel in den Videos haben dann würde ich besser mit kommen da mein English nicht ganz so perfekt ist :) Trotzdem schaue ich weiterhin gerne eure Videos. Bleibt gesund!!! Liebe Grüße
Many of the more prominent universities in the USA still have dining halls. (They serve actual meals at more or less regular mealtimes - of various standards). There are also eating clubs, for which a group of students agree/s to pay a certain amount per person. The members of the club eat together.
In Belgium we don't even need to apply. You just enter unless you do medicin because that has an entrance exam.
The word Tailgating comes from opening the tailgate door of your pickup truck and sit on it while partying
Very informative as usual ❣️
Here’s one thing you could add:
Different handwriting, usually acquired in school: A 7 looks like a 1 and a 1 like a capital i (or Roman 1).
It can lead to complications in a business environment e.g. where it makes a difference whether you make 1 or 7 expensive purchases. 😁
Will someone please do a vlog on this? I cannot read my husband's handwriting, he cannot read mine, and I cannot read anyone's in Germany it's like code please Lord help me. It's not just the 1 and the 7, it's the entire alphabet. I swear, if the FBI came here looking through his files, they would have no luck. I write in cursive and German people cannot read it. So, there's that.
I have taught business management in two state universities in the US over three decades both at the undergraduate and graduate level. I also taught at two German universities as a visiting faculty. A major difference I cam across was the degree of rigor. There is not much difference their abilities. In US universities, students have quizzes, midterms, term papers and group assignments throughout the semester. Attendance and participation are demanded and graded. I was shocked to see in Germany where students are enroll in courses that meet at the same time, and students chose which class to attend! Apart from affecting the student's individual learning, such absences affect the learning of cohorts. This is possible because, student grade depends on one final examination in Germany. In addition, many US students demand a good return on their "investment" as they pay tuition.
This is why I never teach English to German high school students unless they contribute some of their own money to my fee. I was in heaven when I went to University and kids were actually paying attention to the teachers. Return on investment. Then again it might have been their parents money paired with peer pressure from people like me who worked at Dunkin Donuts at night.
Well this is not entirely accurate. It really depends on the subject. Especially STEM subjects in germany are very rigorous.
Phil I went to university in Göttingen from 1974 till 1983. At that time (eighties) there was a legendary disco in Göttingen. The Clochard you came in and there was a very old sideboard with a bust of Bismark with a Pickelhelm on his head. Now you have to explain what that is. If the guys at the entrance found you were old enough, i.e. sixteen you were allowed in unless you had Lokalverbot (off limits) because you started a brawl or were too drunk.
I spent almost every early morning in this joint from 12 to about 3 a.m. Before 12 no student went there because it was full of school kids. They had to take the last bus home at 12.
4 beers was the daily bread and I danced all night. Even on the night before I had my diploma exams.
My friends and I mourned when the Clochard was closed because the building was sold and the new owner tore it down to build an apartment block.
The USA in-state college tuition difference is from it being the state's public university. So some of the state taxes that the citizens of that state go towards the state education system, and why it's "cheaper" though these US tuition costs are so high cannot say it is cheap by any means. Glad Deana pointed out that it only includes the tuition, and not all of the other "fees" that they require, including the whatever major you may be doing - lab fees or supplies, and of course textbooks, computer, etc. Not everyone who applies will get in either. Did Phil say that the students at the one type of high school can then apply to the universities in Germany and tuition is covered? Can the students from the other high school even be allowed to apply if they wanted to or that is now predetermined. Nice interesting video. Cute cartoons.
In Germany, you need an entrance qualification to apply to universities which is called the "Hochschulreife". You get this after you graduated at this one type of high school ("Gymnasium") Phil was talking about. But that doesn't mean that tuition at University is covered. You still have to pay a fee every semester which is about 350 Euro in my case. This fee includes a ticket for public transportation and covers a part of the administration costs of the university. Not included is housing and food.
And to your other question: If you went to a school other than the "Gymnasium", you don't get the university entrance qualification automatically. But you can make up the missing credits afterwards.
I went to high school in New York state ,. Where the drinking age was 18. It was a thing on your birthday to go to a bar at lunchtime, get hammered and go back to school for afternoon classes. Teachers were alert to this practice
At Uni Hamburg we Also have the Mensa and I live the food there but we have lots of food Cords and Restaurants around the campus as well as drugs stores etc. Hamburg is a very big City where you find basically everything!
Im not sure how long its been since Phil went to University, but in most States in Germany you usually pay what is called a "Sozialbeitrag" which includes the Semesterticket to use public transport in the state the University is in.
Dev-Talk Yes but this is not "tuition" as we know it in the States. In Germany they are administration fees which include benefits such as the Semesterticket. Plus these fees only amount to around 150-300 Euros per semester, compared to the tens of thousands paid at American colleges
@@KristinaKk_xx120 I know and its really not much but still. Its not entirely free and I know some ppl that without help (throug Bafög for example) wouldn't have been able to study.
Dev-Talk That's true!
Sozialbeitrag exists since 50 yrs at least ;).
At University you are able/set up to do research and to apply for a Dr./PhD. That is the actual difference to a Fachhochschule.
Swedish higher education is free of tuition , and used to be so for all, but now is just free for EU citizens. You have to pay for books and used to have to be a member of the student union that forced a fee, but this last changed. Housing is not included and can be a problem in the big citys, I know that people reported cues to the student apartments in Stockholm of up to seven years (Considering cue times for rental apartments can go up to 30 years in the most wished for areas, and the average is ten years).
You apply to programs (I guess this is the most like majors) that often lead to an exam or to individual courses.
To get money during your studying you can get finiancial aid to one part, and also a loan. Though to continue to get the loan you need to show results. This is why my knowledge is limited, I applied to the wrong program and had a bad time so did not end up doing anything- this meant that I went for something else I could not afford it even if the school was free (because food and housing still cost money).
The sports thing you might want to dig into a bit more, thinking of how different the leauge setups are, at least for the US Pro leauges and Football/Soccer in Germany with the 51% rule. This might explain why there is not so much university competition.
thank you for the insight from a Swedish point of view, very interesting to hear. I think the housing situation and renting in cities got very very bad over the last decade with the economic growth. I can imagine it being super hard to find a place in a city like Stockholm being on a student's budget... waiting for 7 years to get student housing sounds not like a good option.
At Unversity of Hamburg they Charge about 328€ (bus and train Ticket included but of course afordable. I'm grateful to live in Germany!
Just another great Video! 🙏🏻 Love your channel!☺️
Thank you Laura! Always appreciate positivity! Hope you are having a great day! =)
Technically you can just be smart and hard working enough to graduate without debt as mentioned earlier; applying to many scholarships and finishing GE requirements in high school via APs and CLEPs. The problem is that these options are not very transparent and require digging, which a lot of first gen college students don’t know about. Another problem is the stigmatization of state/community/trades and the glorification of privates/ivy leagues which means a lot of inelastic demand further encouraged by the loan system. The US as opposed to Germany has a tendency to focus on big names and throw debt at a problem until it goes away.
I went to school in germany and while we had sport clubs it was never really big. Oftentimes we wouldn't even practice and only go to one tournament a year
Sorry wrong video😅
You can do your Abitur After realschule and Gesamtschule or even Hauptschule than you can study as well
i graduated two years ago. I was on a private university with a student fee in western germany. We had lessons from 8 am to 5 pm, to get there it was for me also 2 hours going by train. We also had to learn a lot, so partying was never a thing for me. But instead i was going out to eat with friends from University, because we didn't have a Mensa or Imbiss. Luckily i am not in debt, but i know people they are in debt, because of Bafög or Studienkredit.
But with Bafög, you also should mention, even if you have a full Bafög of 861€ per month for 5 years (or more, if you stretch out the time you'll get the money), what would be a dept of 51.660€ or more, you only have to pay back 10k and no more cent. So this dept is, I would say: Ok.
@@albrechtkuhnert870 yea i agree but the people i know could not graduate because of the debt. My university and the admission in general was really complicated for German standards. I didn't had bafög 👀 and i think 860€ is a lot 🤯 but obviously there is no comparison to what my fiance had to pay for his american collage.
Could you please make a video regarding FOREIGNERS STUDYING IN GERMANY coming from an ENGLISH SCHOOL?
the us college fees are just cracy
Interesting is that in Germany foreign students are welcome ( India.Adia etc.) often stay after study( close to greencard) as long as they want!!!!!
In germany we don't get into debts for 17 generations.
US colleges award only undergraduate degrees (bachelor’s degree) , universities award bachelor’s degrees AND master’s & doctorate.
In state is the state your PARENTS claim as their official residence (where they pay state taxes).
US also has the “private colleges” with small classes for people who often don’t want/can’t get into universities, need more help & are very expensive .
Community college level classes are known to be a bit easier than university classes.
2:54 Phil can't believe the U.S. has imcome-level-based fees 😂
7:26 please do not forget that you have to pay around 400€ monthly (around 500$) to rent a room (with electricity and so on) so you have to bring up 6000$ a year to study (except you can live with your parents). If you go to a bigger city you often have to pay a lot more for a room.
side note: If you come from a poor family, you don't get to university that easy! You have a 5% chance if your parents are worker or non academic.
How so? My mom didn't make much. My brother and I got to go to a Fachhochschule. He ended up getting a master degree in computer science. I decided to get married and moved to the US. He was eligible for BAFög and only had to pay back €700 or so. But that was years ago. Not sure how it is now.
@@doraemonforever1726 If you get BAföG (german financial student support payed by the state) you have to pay back 50% of it. The maximum rate is around 850€ a month if your parents really can't afford to support you at all. But this is also cuted off to a 10.000€ lean you have to pay back even if you get 850€ for a maximum of 6 Semester.
It is a absolutely great condition if you're able to get BAföG. They lowered the requirements this year and this is great.
Keine ahnung wieso, aber eure Videos helfen mir dabei besser englisch zu lernen 😂
I live in The Netherlands and the system here is almost the same as in Germany. We pay around €2000 per schoolyear (this year its €2209). In the period of 2015-2023 we had/have something called 'leenstelsel' (loansystem) which basically means that the average student only gets free transportation and a special student loan. Before 2015 everyone got money to pay for college, and starting in 2023, students will once again get a little bit of money (not comparable to before 2015 tho). If you studied in the period of 'het leenstelsel' you will get less than €3000 compensation, but thats still nothing. The average college graduate has a debt of around €30.000, so thats like the USA....
Oh, Phil is from Göttingen? It's a small world, as this is where my parents are from, and a part of my family still lives there. Pretty much the only reason why I didn't grow up there is that my dad got a job somewhere else a few years before I was born and so my parents moved to another city. ;-)
Regarding the Mensa thing, I beg to differ. I studied in Darmstadt, and the Mensa there was (talking about the early 2000s here, things may be different now!) just terrible. I think any commercial restaurant operating the same way would have been closed by the officials right away. I only dared to eat something there twice and I certainly regretted it. I barely made it home on those days before diarrhea struck. After that I never got anything prepared on site again, only packaged food they only sold the same way they got it, like chocolate bars. At least in the past this must have been pretty common there, as a colleague of mine who also studied there 15 years prior confirmed what I experienced. I certainly hope things have changed.
In germany all you have to pay for university every semester is about 190 - 350 Euros ( as far as i know, some say to 600 but i have applied everywhere and never seen that) i pay 295 Euros per semester. its nice. now i just have to worry about rent
Dude, nice, but my university is 100€ more hahaha
"you're legal to drink beer and stuff with 16 and with 18 alcohol" so beer is no alcohol?! :D
snowglu Beer is no alcohol in Germany it’s „Grundnahrungsmittel“ basic food
Most beer has a low concentration of alcohol
@@monicaogunbowale4359 and some has a lot.. "Starkbier" . I know german beer as I am german ;)
The sentence was just a bit funny :)
He made me laugh saying that. What he meant is that we're allowed to buy beer and wine at 16 because of the low alcohol percentage. The hard liquor (vodka, tequila, etc.) only once we're 18.
we have to different "kinds of Alcohol" in Germany.
1. you can drink and buy with 16 (Beer, Wine, sparkling Wine and mixes of that)
2. you can drink and buy with 18 and this is all stuff that is distilled alcohol (Whisky, Rum, ...)
the strength is not relevant.
I come from latvia, i have studied in university in latvia and in denmark, both free of charge. ( In latvia, if you have good grades in every subject after graduating high school, its free, unless people with better grades have filled up the budget spots, but that never happens in engineering degrees, cos 45-60 budget spots, the rest have to pay like 700-1000 per year ), but ye, i was surprised that in denmark, they sold beer in university cafeteria. :D And you actually are allowed to drink beer during lectures, while listening to the lecturer. :D
I'm a student in Germany and the clubs in the city kinda suck so usually we have houseparties and then when we are drunk at 3-4am we go to the clubs because then we don't have to pay entrance anymore. Then we stay either until after hours or we leave after an hour.
But is this a students-only thing ? Or general auditory ? I think there is no separate student life.
they CHARGE FOR APPLYING?!
US College: "Yeah dude thanks for applying but you're not accepted. Also you owe me 50bucks."
In state tuition is cheaper because the state taxes that are paid by citizens of that state go, in part, to funding state schools of higher education. Out of state tuition is higher because the individual (their parents actually) has not paid taxes to the state in an “out-of-state” college or university. I would be interested to know what foreign students, in general, pay for higher education if they choose to attend in Germany. Could I, as an American, attend college or university in Germany, for “free?”
You can go to uni even without finishing the highest level of highschool. You have to Finish a formal aprenticship and work for at least two years. You do however have to Pick Something related. A car mechanic could study engineering but Not medicine or bioligy. You although automaticly qualify for the highest level of state benefits for students (basicly a loan but the state will firgive up to half If you have good grades and pay it back fast. The Idea IS that people who already worked some years already have responsibilies that would conflict with going to uni Having people with hands on experience and a uni degree is wörth some Investment.
I did some research in Texas, having studied Medicine in Germany and they told me there that College is like the first 2 years of our Medizin Studium. The basics, so to say. After College they dive deeper and more specific in Medicin for 4 more years in an institution called University, too. We learn Medicine in Germany the same 6 years in total at an University.
In the USA the PhD in Medicin is more the Dr. title in Germany, I would say almost like Habilitation in Germany.
The high fees for the universities are used for the founding of research, together with the grants. In Germany the most money for research is comming from the state ( with exceptions in some projects from the industry).
Also the cost of tuition in the US in driven by the schools need for funding. Because we have schools that are tremendously wealthy in the country and ppssibly world that are still have the highest tuition. And professor's research money is something they must continually apply for...students don't fund that and in fact that money contribtes to the school which is why professors who attract more research dollars are highly sought after and the best paid.
@@nicthommi
Got it. I knew about the grants as reaserch fondation but I though that the taxis, the students have to pay, are also used partially for the founding of research.
Thank you for the explanation.😀
Take care, Christian
UK is like American system for money and applying, but like Germany for applying for a specific subject. UK everyone drinks loads at Uni with private parties, disco's, concerts and balls..both Uni organised or Departement organized or in the city by local pubs and discos. Loads of extra clubs for hobbies.
It depends on the subject in Germany. I teach geoscience. Our students need to cover field studies..which can add up. Plus are lectures are from 0800 to 1900..so no getting up late for our students.
Could you guys address an American going to college in Germany?
Student loan debt is horrible in the US
So students from Vermont are tuition-locked in their small state 😂
Phil, where do you write a cover letter with your grades to apply to uni? I went to uni 3 times in Germany and you just sign up.
I think in germany, the students are more anonymous, the professor do not know any of them by name.
Actually they never talk with each other, professor is giving lectures and disappears.You have halls with 300-1000 people regularly. Partying is more a matter of age I think, not a students-only thing. The 20year olds party with each other, but there could be garbage workers and craftsmen among them. "Student" is a false friend, by the way. While in US, this addresses already kids in elementary, in Germany this is restricted to colleges only.
Holger P. - I’d say it depends on the university and the classes you’re doing. If you have lectures with lots of people at a large uni I’d agree but if you have small seminars with up to 30 people which I mostly had it’s not anonymous and you were able to approach the professors whenever you needed to.
@@isabellproschak1633 Really ? The seminars were given by the Post-Graduates, hardly by the professor himself. At least in my place. Sure in later years and more specialized topics, lecture size will shrink. Personal talks happen only during thesis and exams.
I like your clips but are a bit surprised that you always give the disclaimer. Is this because it is "manditory" or do youstill get responses that are over the line (when no disclamer is mentioned)?
Ich habe auch in Göttingen studiert :) (2008-2015)
Love that Diana's sprite is now Brown-skinned! YAY for Brown people magic!
He looks like james mcavoy and i cant get over it
Die Studienwerk Gebühren sind fällig. Aber das sind ca. 160 Euro für ein Semester.
Schade, dass das thema Studentenverbindungen nicht auftauchte
Make job differences guys♥️
That's not right. In Germany we have also something called "Berufskolleg" (Google translates that with professional Colleg) what's more like the US Colleg than the typs of Universities in the Video. There you can get quallifications from secondary school level up to the same range like a Bachelore Diploma. I have done so and I'm going to an University of Applyed Science now.
For all the Universities at 1:54 you need to have a testimony/school report that you get after class 12 or 13 (and yes, we took back the class 13 in the regular sytsem).
In Germany, is it possible for several of the students to work a part-time job, on campus, to pay for this expensive, shared apartment rent, food, books, and alcohol?
It is possible. But many students have a job outside the campus like working in a restaurant or tutoring kids
Brother i'm an international student and planning to go community College in usa. After completing my associate degree can i transfer my credit and start my bachelor in European countries?
In Germany, how much are the after high school education books each year? Nowadays, are they all via laptop/paid access annual license to document databases or are they still simply physical books?
I pay a max of 60-80 Euros each semester, but most books are purchased by the university and therefore available for free via the university's library or the publisher's website using Athens, Shibboleth or a similar service.
Tailgating is called so because they'd party around the tailgate of a truck...
hey i am form germany and i really want to go to an unyversity in america but i dont know how to get there
warum? scheint so du stehst auf schulden haha
Don't envy the US college sports. The general student population doesn't participate (other than watching) it. It does not enhance the academic teaching and learning process and it costs all students money to support having it.
Wieso werden Klischees so bedient😂 bin froh über unsere mensa
It does suck that they're allowed to offer majors that will not secure you any work but it's up to you to do the research unfortunately. And why on earth anyone would major in Fermented science I've got no idea lmao.
Phil Bier ist Alkohol aber es ist nicht Schnaps
Phil du hast das Sportstudium vergessen in Punkt Nr. 7.
her face when you say its free is so funny
Did you ever heard about police hour in Germany.all the young people had be out of the gasthaus bei 10.00pm
If they are under 16 and without their parents.
So essentially Universität in Germany is a 4 year traditional college/university in the US and the Fachhochschule is essentially a community college/trade school.
"community" College (the community has recently been dropped) can compare to a fachhochschule. But it is commonly used as a stepping stone to University because for a lower price you get the same credit for the 101 level classes. It is a great experience for people sick of high school who want to get on with learning, cuz money is involved. They offer a 2 year Associate's degree which you can use do move on in life, or to move to the University.
@@LythaWausW I'm from the US. I know how community college works lol. I was asking in the case of Germany
@@AyeeeItsCam It is not really comparable. Fachhochschule is still an academic institution where people go who do want a more practical approach to a subject.You can get a bachelors and masters there but no a phd. Thats why the call themselfs "University of applied sciences". Its definetly much more academic than a trade school.
community college and trade schools do not really exist in Germany. If you do not want/ cant go to university you usually apply for something thats called "Ausbildung" to a company. It kinda is like the same process of getting a normal job. An Ausbildung is a schooling for a specific job were you work for the company 3 days a week and go to a specific school, to get educated in that field. The company you work for not only gives you money, but also pays your education. After 2 - 3,5 years you have completed your apprantaceship and you have a degree. With these programms exist for many different jobs. From becomming a mechanic to being a Nurse and so on.
After you have finished you can still educate yourself further to get a Meister/Techniker/Fachwirt Title, which is pretty much what the Master is for the Bachelor. These Meister/Techniker/Fachwirt titles are seen as high as a bachelors degree, accept the fact that they aint the same thing. But in general, people with a Meister/Techniker/Fachwirt title and a bachelors degree earn the same thing.
An issue with these titles is that you cant add a masters degree afterwards, so if you wanted to have a masters degree, you would have to get a bachelor first.
Overall i think this system is just FAR superior to the US system and idk why it hasnt been addopted yet.
Hey! I really want to study abroad either during undergrad or my masters. Is Germany a good country to study Microbiology, Biochemistry or Chemistry? I'm majoring in Chemistry this Fall and am curious.
Germany is certainly good in research in these fields. TUM in Munich would be a good example I think. One important thing: when studying Chemistry or Biology, its often hard to find it in classical University, because there is a specialised version of it: TU or technical university.