Ivy League Vs Community College
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I went to an ivy league from a community college. Life tip for the young ones, nobody cares where you started, they only care where you finish.
Spot on
Thanks I’m in highschool right now and I’m trying to figure out what’s best after highschool
Most people don’t care where you finish either. You need work ethic, common sense and just a little bit of drive to be successful. Apart from Doctors and Lawyers and such, most universities are a waste of time and money
Whats your advice from transferring
@@JustPeachy738ou would want to minimize the student loan. You can start taking class in community college right now, when I was in high school I have seen class may get off the bus at community college and I asked so do you live nearby? My classmate told me now he is taking classes and we were in 11th grade. If you start right now, you only going to need to spend and other year in community college and you can transfer to a four-year University. But you'll be done in three years total if that makes sense
Let's be real...for 90 percent of jobs, the school does NOT matter. The degree is literally a check box to get to the interview phase. If you are not a lawyer or a specialist doctor, not person in the REAL world gives a shit which school you graduate from.
Exactly man. Im grateful i learnt from a young age that this world is all about connections.
Bingo!! Seriously, other than those specific careers, I seriously give no shits about where someone went.
Except that going to Ivy League or other elite schools opens doors and allows lifelong networking. That said I went to a public university and 2 non-elite Catholic universities and I'm fine with that.
Absolutely agree
It's true that no one really cares what school you go to for most schools in the country, but the top schools definitely have name recognition that will help you immensely in getting jobs.
I was not aware that there was guilt/embarrassment associated with attending community college. I went to a community college and didn’t feel ashamed. Got my RN degree from there! And I got FREE tuition with financial aid.👩🏻⚕️
Community college and transferring to a university is the cheapest way to get a bachelors. It's so nice and saves people from loans and debt
I realized it when going on Reddit where people make a huge deal and getting thousands of dollars in debt. It's all vanity but I can understand why they feel compelled to look the other way as it might be a cultural thing.
Lets be real, college is for people without the ability to learn things without structure, aka non self starters.
You can learn everything online for free these days, it just takes effort.
@@user-uc9nu1yn1n I agree, you can learn anything online, but companies will find it useless if you dont have something to certify that you know that specific thing, thats why people go into programs, so that they can have a certification that they have knowledge of a certain subject
@@user-uc9nu1yn1nlol. Try and teach urself calculus. Much better to have a structured curriculum
I’m not going to lie, I was ashamed to go to community college right after high school. As I went to a high school in the bay area, there was a lot of pressure to get into a top tier university, so when I made the difficult decision to go to CC, I received lot of sorry looks and pity from my peers. I felt really embarrassed back then, but now as I’m wrapping up my freshman year at CC, I realize this was the best decision I ever made for myself. My tuition is essentially $0 each year and I’ll end up at the same place as my peers with less debt! Community college systems in California are amazing, and I’m so glad I didn’t let peer pressure, family pressure, and societal pressure stop me from taking advantage of this educational opportunity.
A young gal I work with has chosen to go to cosmetology school instead of college she said people are treating her the same way. But she hates school-gets ok grades but hates it. She’ll be great as a stylist and you can make a butt ton on your own hours that way. And she’ll have essentially no debt. For a young woman who wants to stay home with kids some day I think she’s being super smart.
"...and I'll end up at the same place as my peers with less debt!" Yeah, keep believing that buddy.
I went to De Anza. I felt what you felt, but definitely a fantastic decision. Super smart of you! The professors were so wonderful, too. You will go far! Keep making those great decisions and don’t listen to idiots that tell you otherwise.
@@Hopespringseternal No way!! I’m currently a student at De Anza studying computer science. The professors here are definitely amazing. I feel like they genuinely care about their students and want to teach. It’s always a fun time in class. Thank you for your encouraging words!
So far, my best educational experience has been going to Los Medanos College. The Bay Area has no shortage of great CCs!
A previous neurologist of mine was so consumed with his identity as a Harvard alumni that he came off as narcissistic and insensitive. Since that experience, I switched to a neurologist who is empathetic and more effective. I don’t know where he got his degree and I don’t care.
I had the same experience. Mine was middle eastern and not only did he have the Harvard vibe but the women are second class ( if not less) vibe too. I was literally traumatized by this A hole.
I have heard a gentleman say that he would rather have a doctor that graduated from any average medical school in India than any doctor that graduated from any American medical school.
He wasn't a Harvard alumni; he was a Harvard alumnus.
The ego on some of the ivy league guys. They think they've completed life when they dont even have a job yet
Q: How can you tell someone is an Ivy league grad?
A: They will tell you.
Texan here - I got a full ride to community/junior college, then transferred to university. Was opposed to it at first - almost embarrassed, because it felt like I’d “failed” by not going straight to university. But honestly looking back I’m SOOOO grateful I did this. Paid off my student loans within 2.5 years!
Wild to me how people get so pressed about going to a CC. You're getting the same fancy paper regardless
In college I ate another guy's barf to join a fraternity
I recently was on vacation in Texas, great state. To be honest, I wouldn't mind living there, and I'm saying that as someone from NY. I had such a great time!
Alamo college isn't something to sleep on. I had a philosophy teacher that I learned the most about myself from. Dude was super humbled and wrote like 30 books and maybe 100 publicized documents. He hated university and thought community college has a better reach for real people
@@rsik1992 im going to pac this fall
I did the same thing Brett did. I was homeschooled, then in my Sophomore year I started taking classes at a community college which turned into me going full time my Junior and Senior year of highschool. I graduated with my Associates Degree before going to University for three years and getting out ahead of my class. I graduated with 15K of debt which I paid off six months after getting out. It was amazing.
I graduated with zero debt in the early 80's before our higher education system became financially predatory. Young people just accept the outrageous tuition and predatory loan system that does not allow student debt to be wiped out by bankruptcy. Today, students don't understand it doesn't have to be this way -- and they don't seem to be very curious about this either. Other countries have free or low-cost education, which is how it used to be in this country. And what are the students upset about? Recently, students at a supposed "elite" university announced they suffered a "micro-aggression" because a Chick-fil-a was proposed on campus. How can people be so smart and so stupid at the same time?
You don't have to go to college to be successful. There should be no reason the taxpayer should have to pay for someone else's college tuition.
Same, exactly the same for me haha.
I did that also! Although, I did dual credit for all of high school, but I completed high school in three years, and since I started high school a year early, I was able to get my associates at 16. Now, I'm 17yo and a senior in uni, and I am so glad I did community college.
Homeschooler here, doing the same thing!
I went to community college and transferred to UC Berkeley. The one thing that was most noticeable was that there were more teachers around me in CC that actually wanted to teach students. I took a big biochem class and there were so many students, it was hard to ask questions. What was worse was that they had new faculty when I took the class, and two of them didn't understand how to teach. It was like "why don't you know this?" For one of the professors. Horrible experience. In other classes, I had pretty good professors, and surprisingly most of them weren't the crazy leftists we see on RUclips. Well, at least they didn't act like it in class, which was nice. One even had said it's okay to vote however you want, whichever party that would be. I still keep in touch with that professor. I saved a lot of money going to CC since I received a full ride to my 4-year as I transferred, and I feel like I learned more while in CC than at Berkeley in many ways. Ivy league elitism is silly and most people who live with that mindset are probably miserable anyways. I think what's most surprising is that I went in with conservative values and came out with them too lol
I went to a CC before a UC too. My CCC instructors never discussed their politics, classes were about 20 students, and you could easily interact with them…
A friend of mine did the traditional route of getting Straight A's in high school. Got to a top rank university and is now working in Facebook at the age of 23 making 150k a year as a computer engineer. While that worked for her, I knew other people who went through the same exact route as her. They resulted in being depressed, hating themselves and going back to community college. They now have a job in a completely different field and are a lot happier in their life. Different strokes for different folks.
I worked as facebook, it is not a place for normal people, a complete bubble. Rather work somewhere and stay sane than be at those super liberal/fake environment. Looking at how AI is being rolled out it's going to be a bloodbath there and queue an existential crisis.
You couldn't pay me enough to work for Facebook 😄 sorry, Meta
exactly do what works for you
My hubby got an associates and makes 6 figures. I have a higher education from a respected university, but became a housewife after our second son was born, because it wasn’t worth me working.
I make 150k as a Computer Engineer. No degree needed.
I went to a community college and took random classes I thought I'd enjoy. It was a time of educational freedom. Transferred to a state university. Done with my masters from a private non-profit, and currently applying to PhD programs.
PHD ? ? Are you seriously staying in college until your mid 30s?
@@Iamachad-qf6qj Depends on what degree and industry.
@@Iamachad-qf6qj Did you even go to college?
@@js.a.silly.person. he goes or did go to community college
@@js.a.silly.person. 5 years- computer engineering course
I had my best and most engaging classes at community college. I felt like the professors really cared about their students succeeding, and I felt disappointed when I transferred to a traditional university after i got my AA and the professors didn't feel of the same caliber.
I went to community college then transferred to a 4 year university. I would recommend everyone to go to community college for your general classes. I got the fee waiver and literally paid $0 for all my classes. Got my AA, transferred to 4 year, I just received my MS this spring, and plan on getting my PhD. I got financial aid and have 0 school debt. My only regret is taking too long at community college. Ideally, you should only be there for 2 years, so keep that in mind. I do agree with Brett in that there was more community, not so much identity, for me at community college. I loved my experience at community college; it felt like a smaller, tighter knit community. When I transferred, it didn't feel the same. I tried joining clubs at the 4 four and it just wasn't the same.
What field are you going into?
I was never ashamed of going to a community college. I wasn't really aware of the stigma and i'm glad .
Ain't a stigma bro
Same
My husband is a math professor and was Chair of the department for 8 years. He said they often hired professors from the local community College when they had over enrollment and that the students at the university were paying twice the cost for the exact same class they could have taken at the community College.
Twice the amount is most likely a huge understatement. I only paid a maximum of $50 per semester, books we’re about $200 per semester. Back then hard to find used books.
Only twice as much? That's not true in most states.
The guilt and embarrassed questioning really hit me because I was one of the hightest scoring students in my entire high school and when people hear I'm going to a community college people cringe and say how sad that is. But what they fail to realize is that my degree is normally only provided by 2 year community colleges and maybe a few trade schools. There are many benefits to a community college, and I've had so many fun experiences that it just sucks that people constantly trash that discussion
I live in the county in NJ that offers the only 2 yr scientific glass blowing coursework in the USA. When I was going to the community college associated with that program, the talented ones were being offered jobs before they graduated.
I have a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering and only attended a major university for two years. I went to a community college as well and got all my basics out of the way. My daughters are doing the same because I told them I won't pay for a major university when they start college. I am 50 years old now, worked my way up the ranks in my company and fairly successful. It amazes me that people scoff at community college when it can save you so much money. Thanks for putting this out there, I try to tell people this for those that will listen.
I got into a community college at age 17. My high school GPA was a 3.9 and I graduated with an advanced math and science diploma, but it was because of some personal life circumstances I wasn't sure if I was gonna attend uni. So I worked at a local mall full time overnight while in community college, and got my A.S Science degree at age 19. Then I transferred to a uni and am currently doing a bachelor's in computational and data sciences. Best decision I ever made. 😌
Lol
Damn, I wish I was as good in math as you!
Good luck. University is hard, but for some careers you need it.
My school embraced the idea of getting 100% of students accepted into a 4 year program within a college. Most of my friends and classmates went to "Tier 1" schools where they were mostly known for their name. I finished within the top 25% of my classmates and did not receive any scholarships that I applied for. Coming from a middle-class family, financial aid was not going to help me either. Thus, I had the choice to get loans and pay for a "Tier 1" school, or don't get any loans and pay it all of myself, but I would have to attend a community college. Chose to pay it off myself and attend the community college. I was upset but my parents told me "Just wait and see, mostly everyone that went up to those schools will end up back here. Most of my friends ended up coming back to our hometown and attending the community college cause they were not able to get a full-ride and afford to pay their tuition. With that being said, I was one of the first to get my degree within our friend group and able to land a job with financial stability. Funny how that works that way.
If you were on top 25% of your high school class there’s no way you’d be accepted into a tier 1 school like Harvard, Yale, MIT. You have to be the best (top 5%) at a competitive high school to even get your app read. Did you mean state school or liberal arts college? No one I know that went to Tier 1 or Tier 2 schools came home to cc. Just applying to schools like that takes years of planning.
I’m in my 30s and I’ll just now be finishing my BS in engineering. Part of my road was Community College and I wouldn’t think about changing that for a second.
My senior year in high school I was doing dual enrollment and graduated at the top of my class. I got many scholarships including the one I ended up choosing where they literally owed me $5 to attend the first year. A week into it, I dropped out. The whole college life and living on campus wasn’t my thing. I was stuck, what felt like, a million miles from everything I knew with thousands of strangers.
I took a year off, got a “real job” and contemplated what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. I always wanted to be an engineer but with my new full time job I also knew I wouldn’t have the time to spend on a full time course load. Plus, I was a college drop out - who would take me seriously? That year, I lost all faith in myself academically, and figured I’d be like the rest of my family that just had a HS diploma and that was ok.
A year off turned into a few years off and one day I woke up and just decided I was going to go back to school, but I was going to go to a community college for business because the course load would be more manageable and the class offerings didn’t conflict with my work schedule.
I started slow, 1-2 classes per semester. After a year I remember crying to my bf at the time because I was so proud of myself for getting a perfect 4.0 while working full time. It didn’t matter that it was only a few classes.
Those teachers I had not only cared about the subjects they were teaching but THEY CARED ABOUT THE STUDENTS. I cannot thank them enough for believing in me and helping me when I didn’t even realize I needed help. They are the reason I did so well and why I continued.
The year after I graduated with my AA for business, I decided to pursue my engineering dream. At this point I’m in my mid 20s, I have a salary job, and living alone. It was thinking about the teachers from CC that made me look past all the doubts I had. They believed in me, why wouldn’t I believe in myself?
Fast forward to now, I’m making over 6 figures with just my AA from community college (which I don’t even really use to be honest) and I’ll be graduating with a 3.8 GPA from a prestigious university.
I would definitely not be where I am now if I forced myself to stay at “the nice school” just because it was what was expected of me.
BL: Get your education at your own pace. Figure out what you wanna do and don’t forget the importance of real-world experience. Go to that community college.
I went to community college a year after I finished high school, took me 3 years to complete the degree (basically Graphic Design/Media Design) and I ended up not using it because it just wasn't what I wanted to do, although I do appreciate all the knowledge I gained and still have a passion for art&design. I'm turning 30 in 2 weeks and I'm about to go back to school again because I want to be able to build a future for my family by going into a more "practical" degree (IT) but still something I know a good bit about. I know it's a bloated market, but I have no plans on going to any big cities and IT professionals are actually a lot more rare in rural areas so there are opportunities for me locally. The goal is to either work part time, or WFH while homeschooling my children.
Happy birthday!
Yeah I also want to get into IT I have been looking at more rural areas and they pay well
For those that can afford it, Ivy league and generally the prestigious colleges are worth the networking. You’re essentially around all the hard working children of other rich people.
But if you cannot outright afford them or state uni, go to a juco or CC. The professors there are usually WAY more hands on as they aren’t busy with researching for PhD related activities and the classes are also smaller for the most
well based on what I've heard... I don't really want to go there... how much will you actually be learning there?
Yeah they got their pros and cons
@@calebleach7988 It’s mostly to blast through your gen eds and prerequisite courses that won’t do very much for you in the future anyway. Especially for STEM.
Obviously you won’t get the glamor of roaming a big campus that you either live on or near, but if you want to go to college it’s an easIER foot in the door than b lining for a state uni
Forget that, the amount of 🐱 you get in community college frat parties is worth it
Community college professors are also often times people who work in the fields they teach, not just some theoretical practitioner, but an actual professional in the field.
I’m a Technical Program Manager at one of the largest tech companies on earth (the Big G). I went to community college and have a six-figure salary. Only one other person on my team has any type of degree, and every person on my team makes a six-figure salary. On my soul, I promise you do not need an Ivy League education. I would also go as far as saying that some of the rudest and most ignorant humans I have ever had the displeasure of working with…have been Ivy League graduates.
After high school, I took 2 years to work various retail jobs and really figure out what I wanted to do when I went to college. After I got married at 20, I enrolled in community college and got my AA after about 3 years, being able to work and start a family during that time. Now I am finishing up my BA from a private Christian university, all online. I had more community during my time at community college than I have at my 4 year university. Its hard looking at my higher educational career since I didn't follow a traditional path, and my peers from HS are finished with their masters by now, but I am getting it done and can show my 4 sons that their mom can do anything she puts her mind to.
As a proud community college graduate, I can tell you one thing, and it’s all about talent and hard work. I have competed with the IVY grads in my career, and they would often put me down because I went to community college, and I always remind them that my mind and ability got me there.
I LOVED COMMUNITY COLLEGE! I have a Bachelor’s in Business and the first 2 years I did at Miami Dade Community College! I was in their Honors Program which definitely created a lot of “togetherness & belonging” and the bonus was I got a full ride through that program! ❤
Let me guess, the frat parties were the best
@@Iamachad-qf6qj What’s with you and frat parties
@@js.a.silly.person. Good time in my life. Now i have to actually work.
@@Iamachad-qf6qj lol
I think that Miami Dade now offers bachelor's like BCC does. I wish I had gone to BCC or Miami Dade instead of art school, but my career is winding down and I'm not interested in advancement anymore.
I went to a community college straight out of high school, took me 4 years to get my AS. I was working part time and paying for all my classes and books myself. I don’t regret it at all. I didn’t end up transferring because I eventually figured out I didn’t want to get my bachelors degree and just finished out my associates and was happy to be done with school.
Me too! I wanted to transfer to a university but changed my mind and decided that I was done with school after my associates degree. I had wanted to do something in archeology but I dropped that class because it was kind of hard for me at the time as a freshman.
@@juliemichael3619 Nice! Just out of curiosity, what are you doing now?
Did pretty much the same while going to community close to home. I couldn't bear the thought of going back, feels like wasting time and I despise our education system.
I'm proud of the fact I went to Daytona State College (at the time Daytona Beach Community College. The name changed when they started to offer 4 year degree programs in certain areas of study) going there helped me develop good study habits and get used to the college lifestyle by the time I transfered to a bigger school I was better adjusted and excelled in my degree program (graduated with a 3.4 GPA)
I’m currently a student at Princeton and can personally attest to the fact that there are both students here who wish to take advantage of all the school’s opportunities as a stepping stone to something even greater yet also those who made getting into Princeton the capstone of their academic career and fail to really make the most of their experience here (at least from an academic perspective).
Community College was the best thing I could've ever done. Got to save money, got to complete certain courses towards a regular college at a fraction of the price, and I got to structure a schedule that didn't drain my soul. Everyone's also chill at community college as well. The teachers are more lenient with you missing classes and assignments.
I can vouch for the "chillness" of CCs.
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I went to a community college for my freshmen year and transferred to a state school my sophomore year. There was a stigma around community college when I was in high school, but plenty kids went the route I did with a year at CC, getting an Associates Degree after two years, or moving home and going to a CC after a university didn't work out. Though I liked my university much more than my CC, I think this route is a good choice for many.
I bet the frat parties in ivy league schools are boring. Going to college for education is pointless unless you are in STEM
I lot of the stupid kids (low gpa) losers who went to CC that is where the stigma came from
I went to community college, the military, a state university, and finally an Ivy League to further my professional career. The community college was the best experience. It had the best, most involved, most impactful teachers. I actually felt like I learned things and that my teachers had a deep knowledge and love for their subjects. My other experiences paled in comparison. State University felt like a scam. The curriculum was a joke, and it felt like I could have gotten just as good of an education by reading a Wikipedia article. My Ivy League experience was decent, but certainly colder and less memorable than my time at community college. I find that the people teaching in the community are there because they truly love it and are invested in the next generation, whereas most of the professors I had elsewhere were clearly there for other reasons and did the bare minimum. Obviously, people should try to go to the best four-year university they can… Even if the program feels like a joke, the reality is that the piece of paper and the networking you gain is crucial to making more money in your career. But I truly believe people should have some time at a community college first to set the foundation for their adult lives. You don’t have to go straight to a four-year institution right away. Take a year or two to explore other experiences like community college or a trade school. It can only enhance your life going forward, and there’s truly no rush.
I recently graduated community college and I’m now heading to a 4 year and it truly was the best choice for me. I feel like I was able to get a strong foundation and really learn about who I am as a student before committing to something I wasn’t ready for.
It’s not the education, it’s what you make of it.
I went to community college then university, and it was a great decision. I saved so much money, and like it was explained, once I went to university all I had to work on was the concentrated, specific classes for my major. At cc, I had great professors and made great friends that I'm still friends with today, but didn't make any real connections at university.
i hate core classes so much. these universities are literally wasting our time with stuff we already learned in high school. my history class in uni was just a combination of the 2 world history classes i took in high school. my writing class i took in uni was just the exact same as the writing units i had in my english classes in hs. my math classes were the only thing that wasn't what i learned in high school, but that's only because i took a different math class my senior year than the options that taught exactly what was taught in my uni math class. i know this cuz my friend took the high school math classes that taught the same thing as the uni class i took (my hig school has multiple options for math classes after you finish the 3 that are required for graduaton as in algebra 1 & 2 and geometry).
Same plan my niece has mapped out. Big plus that she got a 2 year full ride at a CC. It's just being practical really.
Thank you so much for the great advice! You are amazing Brett!!
Thank you so much Brett for making this video. I love watching your videos, but this hit very personal. I’m trying to enroll in college right now at 20 year old sometimes I felt like it was too late and I had to miss my mark and I would never get into a good college cause when I was younger I always wanted to go to an Ivy League or university, but because of stuff out of my control I felt like I never got the opportunity but this video just inspired me again so thank you so much❤❤❤
I was a home school student that ended up going to community college and then transferred to U of South Florida. I enjoyed my time at community college. I had professors at CC that were on different sides politically, but i didn't feel like they were going to fail me cause i disagreed with them. Like you said, i had professors that actually cared about what they were talking about.
Go Knights!
I’m not conservative, but I agree so much with the point about figuring out who you are outside of your education. That’s one of the reasons I speak so highly of community college!
I take it that you mean partying = figuring out who you are
@@Iamachad-qf6qjthat isn’t always the case. And more often than naught the partying happens at these 4 year colleges.
Don’t disrespect people that trying to better themselves.
I went to Community College and it helped me figure myself out. I was a goof off in High School and going to CC allowed me to grow up without saddling myself with a ton of debt.
@@AkodoNoEyes what i said is valid. So many sorority girls say that
@@Iamachad-qf6qj if we’re talking about sorority girls then yeah, 10000% valid, but if we’re talking about your average CC student then nah.
Great show, this really encouraged me!❤ As a nearly 40 year old women who has pursued higher education yet still work an entry level position in transportation, I can attest i feel i am only now finding my way. One size does not fit all. ❤
I went to community college and I completely agree you don’t have those friendships that were made by people who started at even just 4 year colleges, staying in dorms, social clubs, intro classes and the difficulty you get through together and the friendships you make in those first 2 year courses and dorm life.
"You are what you do, not necessarily what you attempt." Excellent quote at 6:15
Also, it's neither who you know nor what you know, it's the quality of your character and your work ethic.
Not even the quote, but okay.
Community college is not a bad route to take. I went because not only was it cheap but I also was able to help my dad cause he was sick at the time. Best decision because I learned a lot from my pops from the time I got to spend around him. Learned how to be a better man and that I wouldn’t change for the world.
Pretty crazy when I saw the original video a few months ago. I went to LBCC and I’m currently at Princeton. Both experiences (so far) have been awesome. The CA CC system is amazing, and I had great professors that pushed me to apply.
The resources here are insane, and I still have trouble wrapping my head around it. Not being a super rich person here and being on full financial aid (shoutout to no student loans) AND being a non-traditional student, (former military) I sometimes feel “on the outside” mainly bc I live in an apartment with graduate students and not on campus.
I’m super grateful for the opportunity and ultimately I do believe that having a sense of identity before getting here, I understand while this is a big accomplishment, it’s simply a part of my story and a small piece of whom I am. Don’t let labels and degrees define you.
I also did dual enrollment at a local community college my junior and senior year of high school!! Graduated with my AA at the same time I graduated from high school. Did 2.5 years at a private Christian university before graduating with my BS. I’ll say my experience in community college was better than in university. I met so many amazing people, felt really involved while at the opportunity to work and spend time with family. Dual enrollment is such a blessing and is the only reason I paid all my student loans off in 2.5 years!!!
I went to our community college on an academic scholarship, 2 year degree completely paid for and the education quality was great. I really enjoyed it, loved most of my teachers, and I met my husband there (married 19 years this year). This fall, my daughter is going to the same community college to get her 2 year degree on the same academic scholarship, then moving on to a 4 year school. She already got college credits in her high school classes to kick things off. This is HUGE for us since it starts her off into adulthood without tons of debt because we can’t pay for her college. Community colleges are a blessing, they open the doors of education for more people, reduce college debt, and many have trade programs as well (like ours does) 🙌🏻
I went to community college for 3 years and did not graduate but I would say never say my time there was wasted even though I did not complete an AA. When I graduated high school I genuinely had no idea what I wanted to study and I felt really bad about that. I remember other kids already had a plan on what they were going to do and what field they would major and I felt like I was behind the curve because I didn't. I have always done decently academically but nothing really caught my passion. I still remember the looks of pity I got from my friends and family when I told them I wasn't planning on attending university. Some of them even of began to look down on me. But because of CC I was able to explore all my academic interests and pick a program (that I am currently enjoying) at the university level I could commit to, happily. Some of the people that judged me dropped out of university in their first year, the others swapped their program so many times it took them forever to graduate with loads more debt than others. A very very small portion of them stuck with their major of choice from high school and actually made it work. My point being is CC is a great place for anyone unsure of what they want to do like I was and it allows them that chance figure things out without being as expensive as universities and still getting a quality education.
Exactly!!!
Such a good point. A lot of kids don't know what they want to do at 18. So many of my friends, myself included, changed our majors multiple times. Community College allows you the freedom to explore your interests and the different jobs you could do without spending >$20k for a year/semester. Glad you were able to find something you enjoy! And don't worry about friends and family. My high school friends, teachers, and some family members did the same to me and now they all praise me for my job. It doesn't matter in the end as long as you can support yourself and enjoy your life.
I went to a top private school for undergrad and completed my PhD and MBA. I currently work for a top consulting firm, making a great salary. I hate my job and so do many of my colleagues; many of whom attended Ivy League colleges for undergrad and/or grad school. I entered into consulting partially because the work seemed interesting, partially because I thought it would open doors in my career, and partially because I didn't really know what I wanted to with my life (professionally, speaking).
I think going to a CC and exploring different majors / career paths in a low cost way, is I think, probably the best way for most 18 years old to go. Aside from that kid who has always known they wanted to be a doctor or teacher, most kids have a very narrow band of exposure to all the career options available to them.
All this to say: I think you're on the right track and seem to have a great head on your shoulders. I wish I would have been as mature and thoughtful as you when I was your age.
This video is comforting for me.
I’m very hard on myself, I try to do the best I can. For a while I’ve felt like if I can’t go to a “proper college,” then I’m not doing good enough. But I really like the reasons surrounding going to cc
I went to a local university. Honestly, I’m glad I chose the university over community college. Both were within a 20 minute driving distance of where I lived growing up and my mom really encouraged community college, cause they were paying for it, but after a semester of commuting I ended up moving into the dorms. I got very involved in the campus ministry, made friends and enjoyed the college experience. College isn’t for everyone though, and I probably didn’t make the best of choices during my time there, but…I’m glad I did it. I’m an only child and living with a roommate taught me a lot about life and helped me really grow up and be more responsible. Unfortunately, all the friends I made were from a town 2 hours away and when we graduated, I stayed local because my family is here, and they all moved back home and we’ve lost touch. But…I had a good experience and moved on with life. I think that’s important. Have some pride for your alma mater, but don’t get stuck there and make that your whole identity. You don’t want to be like the college dude in high school party movies who gets wasted and tells all the high school boys how nothing is as it seems while trying to snag the hottest senior homecoming queen. Ick.
I went to tech school, spent grand total between tuition, tools, materials, an apartment, food. Everything all in for 2 years, was around 25k, my older brother went to an out of state university, spent 4 years paying 45k a semester. We graduated at the same time and I'm debt free with tooling, materials and resources so I was able to start working immediately
College is a huge scam unless your doing STEM. Gender studies, art studies, pyschology all of that nonsense is irrelevant in the real world
I work with people who didn't even go to college and I swear they're so much easier to work with and so much smarter due to their experience. They don't have this attitude that they're the smartest person in the room, but often they have more experience than everyone else in the room and deserve to feel that way because they often are the smartest person in the room purely due to their experience
@@donk8105 slow your roll I'm one of those gosh darn book learners 😅
This is one of your best videos. Everyone should watch this.
I have been so ashamed of having to take semesters off from university due to my health, and this video truly helped me realize that I should appreciate the progress I've already made, rather than the "timeline" I have deviated from. I love your videos, Brett
I went to community college in my 30's. I learned a lot, got a lot of understanding about my field of study. I ended up not completing a degree but I dont regret going
You went to school in your 30s?
@@Iamachad-qf6qj yeah. I had inherited a small sum of money and at that time had a small muffler and brake shop that wasnt exactly booming, so I decided to enroll in a community college and take some courses about manufacturing and machining. a good portion of my classmates wer emy age or older.
@Iamachad-qf6qj Higher education doesn't have an age limit.
@@paulgardner5079 Good for you
I went to community college, then a university for my bachelors and now I’m currently at Columbia for my graduate degree. I think community college does take away the pressure to choose what your future 4 years will look like and an opportunity to discover what you like. And like Brett said, you save money. I love my graduate experience at an Ivy League because I am mature enough to appreciate the research opportunities and connections I can make instead of just saying you go there.
As someone who went to a community college and then transferred to a 4-year university, I appreciate you talking about this and promoting the community college experience. I learned so much from both my time at community college as well as my time at a 4-year university. It's great how more people are starting to realize that community college is a valuable, wise decision for many people. And not to mention the money you save!
I started out in CC and felt so bad about it...until I went to a 4 year university. I was so stoked to go to my 4-year and then realized how terrible the education was. It made me extremely grateful I started out at CC. Made me with my CC was a 4-year.
Just my opinion, but If you have no clue what you want to do but want to start college, go to a community college and knock out general Ed then see what jobs you're interested in that college may help with. Otherwise you may waste your time and money and may just change majors and what not. I dropped out of college and fell into desktop support for a year like 2 years after then went back to finish with Information technology as my major. Loved it ever since
I was engaged and felt like I learned a lot at CC. I remember the classes and I felt very engaged in the learning. I feel like I "endured" the university, and got my degree, and moved on. I remember a few of the classes, but largely never used most of them after. A Bachelor's degree is more about the proof that you can do something difficult than anything else.
I also went to community college right after high school. There was a stigma from my class when it came to community college, but it didn’t bother me. We saved so much money, flexible, super duper interesting professors and students with so many backgrounds, and I got to be with my parents a little bit longer too which we both enjoyed. And I absolutely love how I got right into my junior year when it came to transferring to the 4 year school. I had a great experience and I’m so thankful for those experiences. 😊
Thanks for the show Brett. You're really great!
I've recently been struggling with the shame of my choice to go to community college despite the good grades I have. I really needed to hear this message it helped me a lot thank u for that!!!
same.
Please don't feel shame......you will be debt free while many others will spend long years paying of student loans. Be proud of your decision. Someone made the comment that unless you are in a highly competitive field the college that you go to is not as important as some think. Keep up the good grades and good luck!
Forget about the shame! When you're not 200k in debt at 26, the shame will be worth it.
All 4 of my kids went to community college. You will not regret it. My kids are all debt free and never had a student loan. They all worked while attending school. The teachers in Community College really focus on the students that put in the effort. Universities also offer great scholarships to Community College transfers. You also have way more fleixibility to switch majors in CC if needed without the financial risk of a University.
I went to community college and had great memories and it was fun but then I transferred to be a private university. Both had their disadvantages and advantages. Saved SO MUCH money
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I graduated from a prestigious aeronautical school and we all bonded over our struggles. Our friends help each other out and we would do it regardless of where we work, go to school, etc. I met a lot of my best friends here and I really have enjoyed the experience, but we definitely struggled and it helped me and my friends bond more over our flight program. We definitely didn’t try to just get in and slack. There are certainly people who did this but the aviation industry is so much more different. We are considered a flying Ivy League.
Fantastic video though! I agree with most everything said.
Man, this conversation is SO important! I am one of 5 kids from two teachers (physics/biology and Latin) and we really value education in our family, with a little school snobbery (we are in Virginia. Sorry, but I think Virginia schools are pretty strong so we are spoiled as a state) but man, I worked in an industrial job and I LOVE trades and community college! Biggest mistake of my life was not doing an engineering co-op and not understanding what that offered me (second regret was not doing band in high school)
My parents did not allow me to do that. They wanted me to go straight to a university. They were worried that I would be influenced by low achievers of not continuing with my education. At 16 I've already started my career as an electronics technician and was making good money and I figured I would just rise through the ranks. I was more interested in making money than to put that on hold for the years at a university.
Thank you, Brett. I’m forwarding this to two of my kids. One just turned 19 and the other is almost 18. They’re stressing about what they should do. My best advice to them was that they don’t need to do everything in 4 years, and to pay as they go as much as possible. 😁
If you have daughters, do not let them join sorority societies. Its a 304 manifacturing centre.
College Credit plus would’ve been great option in high school just sayin
I'm 24 yrs old and maybe I can help. I did community College did not finish because of cost. Yes, I was working in retail though. I got into a trade I wanted to work in Healthcare so I did phlebotomy/ lab assistant. I was able to find a full time job with tuition reimbursement okay benefits and okay pay. I live at home my mom is very supportive because i am working my butt off. Also, bought a car 2 years ago that alllll mine! I was able to go back to school online full-time. Now I am going for my B.S. Health Administration and HR Management. I graduate next year and guess what??? No student loan debt because I pay out of pocket and had help with my job, my mom, and Pell grants. That was my route. I am grateful because I have working experience that most kids my age do not have and a 401K (and other savings). Since I work in healthcare I can apply within my organization. I have a great rapport with management. Research some trades that might peak there interest. I could not do retail forever. I hope this helps sorry for the long message.
I started community college at 19, straight out of high school, and worked full time. I finished that degree (Associates) at 22, and just got my Bachelor's at 25. I got my career job before even finishing, and I regret nothing. I did monthly payments the whole time, and luckily left with no debt. There is a societal push to finish college in 4 years and it's just nonsense. Life is not that specific. Things happen. I think what you are suggesting is great for them. You are welcome to share my comment with them. My mom went to my community college and she pushed me to go. At first, I was very disappointed with that. I had wanted to go to a famous private school in my state that specialized in my program. It turns out that my program at the community college was actually very deep and wonderful. I regret nothing what so ever.
This is my kind of Jubilee video, where its not people who have so different ideas that they cant see eye to eye and can actually agree on stuff! Thanks for making a video about this Brett!
I’ve been to a community college, ministerial institution, and a trade/tech program. I couldn’t figure out what I wanted to do. I will say, I am glad that I went for a two year business degree at my CC. That foundation has helped me in every job I’ve taken. From retail to working at a humane society/spay & neuter clinic.
I’m definitely not the type of person to get a job for the money, but rather for the experience.
I will say that sometimes I am a little jealous of my younger sister. Right out of high school she has been at the same job, for 11 years, based off of a program she entered her junior and senior year. Took a few night classes and realized college isn’t for her, right now, but maybe someday. Every person is unique and different. Always appreciate your videos Brett. This is one subject I am very passionate about with the young people today.
This is so true, not just regarding community college, but what one of the last girls said about working in the industry. As a freelance musician, it is so much about networking and who you know and definitely how you are as a person more than your skill/talent
In NC, community college is incredibly commonplace as well. Most people I know have some experience with it, whether it's through dual-enrollment or by going there after high school. Way cheaper and the classes are worth the same. I have heard though that CC classes are harder ;)
Very similar education path to you Brett! Loved the duel enrolled high school
Wow. This video made me feel so good. I feel like I have good options and to not feel ashamed of where I go. Thank you
I live in Virginia and we have a similar thing to your community college, Brett. My school actually has a deal with every college in the state that all credited courses and all degrees are transferable to the other schools. The one girl, Aiden, said something that rang true for me. She's obviously taking her time in community college and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm doing the same thing, I've only taken 1-2 classes a semester for the past four years. However, it makes me feel embarrassed to say I'm only 1/2 way through my goal to transfer when I have friends taking 5-6 classes at a time and graduating from college this year with Bachelor's Degrees. Especially since I now work at the college and my boss keeps insisting I should sign up to get Financial Aide and take more classes. (I don't qualify and I honestly don't want it. I'd rather do what I can to not go into debt by myself. I'd have to pay for it later anyway, it isn't just free money.) The good news is that I'm actually one of the students in the school with the highest grades and if I keep up my incredibly high GPA. When I finally graduate from the school, it'll be with one of the highest honors they have. There's always a silver lining.
I went to a 4 year university on in-state tuition for music ed. I did my Master's later on a similar price tag with a remote learning option. I am glad that I took the route I did. My experience was probably somewhere between going to an Ivy and going to community college as there was school spirit, especially within the music departments. Because I had high grades in high school, many people were puzzled about my choice to stay in-state at something "not prestigious enough." When it comes to life success, going to a more expensive university would have just equaled more debt to pay off later because teaching jobs are on the same pay scale regardless of where you go and I have been continuously employed.
Excellent post!!! Keep up the great content. 👍🏼
This is a great take
There is definitely still camaraderie in community college. Yes there are still programs, not just gen eds. And the programs are still hard (nursing, dental hygienist, physical therapy assistant, occupational therapy assistant, etc). And you are in the same classes for 2 years with your classmates, so you definitely lean on each other. But I agree it's much less a part of my identity.
I live in Ohio and I think it's a lot more common for people to go to community colleges here, there doesn't seem to be as much of a stigma.
In terms of networking, it probably is a lot better from Ivy League. But I got my job after graduation from one of the people I met during my fieldwork. So networking/meeting the right people definitely still happens, at least in my experience.
I also graduated last year with no student debt which is a huge plus. I got my degree, then took my certification test, then got a job all within a few months so having "just" an associates degree did not affect my job outlook. I have no regrets for attending a community college.
I got my associates at a community college then transferred to a 4 year and ended up getting a masters too. It saved me SO much money and also gave me time to figure out what I wanted to focus on. I couldn’t recommend it more to people. I ended up working for the university and getting free college through that. 26 now with a career and no debt.
I live in Miami.A good portion of college graduates here have attended thr local community college before transferring. It saved me tone of money, and yes, classes were smaller and teachers cared about their students.
As a college student going into my junior year this fall this was rather encouraging.
I'm so glad this video game out. I had gone to college at 18 (currently I am 22) but dropped out because I literally couldn't handle the stress. I worked full time for a year to pay off my community college debts and I am attending once again this Fall to better my education. I'm nervous to be judged but I am also happy because I am bettering myself by going for a major I finally found that clicks with me. I have learned I am not stupid for taking the community college route.
I'm a college freshman, as of August 2023, and right now I'm in a summer program that is designed to help introduce you into college math and writing, and literally as I'm writing this, I feel like I have learned more about my writing skills from the two sessions I've had from this program than I did in my entire time in high school.
Also, the only reason I decided to go straight into university as opposed to community college is because I'm not paying anything out of pocket to be here, so I personally don't see a reason not to come to the university right away
Pro-tip--Major in Electrical engineering. If not that, then chemical engineering followed by environmental engineering.
@@MH-eu1dr another tip- ensure you pass your exams but dont try too hard. Just do enough to get a degree. Ive seen 22 year olds have half their head grey from stressing too hard over studying.
@@MH-eu1dr I'm majoring in math lol
I dropped out of high school due to some family issues and I went to community college after I got my GED because it was all that was available to me. It was a great experience and I’m glad it was available! I’m now at a university to finish my bachelors in biotechnology, but I might not have been able to go to college at all without CC
This was a good one and to get both perspectives when it comes to education. It would be neat to see a discussion on trade schools.
I went to a community college in CA and it was the best choice I will be highly encouraging my kids to do the same.
I just finished up high school and chose to apply to community college to give myself more time to figure out what I want to do for a living, before transferring to a 4-year college and I've had so many family and friends tell me they wish that's what they'd done, and it's been very reassuring to see so many people support this decision
I'm at Yale right now and I'm about to finish up my research and work on an ambulance as I try to join a fire department. When I teach on the side, no one coordinating my program ever wants to introduce me as someone working in EMS or interested in joining fire service; they instead double down on having been affiliated with Yale and other schools. It makes me feel so much less self esteem than if I had never had these affiliations. It really ties to the point in the video about the identity aspect making you feel you have to live up to having a certain kind of job, or even if you don't feel that way, other people treating you that way and like you've gone astray if you do anything else. I meanwhile double down with my students about how you should listen to your interests and not feel any obligations to do one thing or another, only have gratitude for the paths opened up for you and that you've had resources or mentorship available to help you forge for yourself, whether made available in a school or elsewhere.
I did the same thing in Minnesota (PSEO), which gave me so much freedom to explore what I liked and save money. Being 17 and getting the option to skip high school was a no-brainer because it allowed me to work or intern on a flexible schedule. And when I transferred to a state school I was so disappointed at the price-per-quality ratio that I moved to Australia and finished my degree there. Flexibility is so underrated.
Attending a community college was the best step I made in furthering my education after HS. I was able to get my GEUs out of the way and give myself time to figure out what I truly wanted to do in my next phase of learning. I was and still am proud of getting the base classes out of the way first. Having that time at a community college made me realize my strengths and allowed me to change my future goals to better fit me. I earned a bachelor's degree at my second college thanks to the choices I made in CC 😁
Ohio does dual enrollment where the state will pay for it if you're a high school student. I ended up coming into college with over 60 credits that way! Always highly recommend it to people who want to feel challenged in high school
Great info in this video, CC is very underrated and people should never feel ashamed to go to one.
I love everything about this video as a community college student turned 4 year university
I went to a community college before transferring to a state university and it was one of the best times of my life.
I started doing martial arts, got involved in clubs/student government and explored philosophy classes when I needed to pad out my schedule.
At one point I couldn’t walk from one end of campus to the other without a mob of my friends joining me.
I’m still in contact with all the people I did martial arts with 10 years later.
I couldn’t wait for todays video I was just watching the first ever Brett videos ❤
I dropped out of high school when I was younger. at the age of 30 community college allowed me to do all my general education classes and get my associates to transfer to Fresno State and receive my bachelor's in science. I came out debt free. I feel that community college has a lot to offer
also love your videos
Most of my community college professors where retired IV league and UC school professors.
Llavalo - Stanford - Multi.V. Calculus
Tak - California Tech - Algorithm Analysis and Assembly Language
Frimbal - MIT or John Hopkins- Engineering Physics
Others who's names i don't remember at the moment regrettably.
My point is i don't have any debt and I was taught more personally by the best due to the constraint in class size.
Thank you Maestros.
Keep posting brett❤
Community college is awesome. Learned a lot, saved money, and met really good friends (best friends till this day). Transferred to a university later on. Got my engineering degree. I have been in the aerospace industry for about five years, one year away from a masters degree, and I do youtube for fun.
It's totally worth it and recommend it to anyone.
In North Carolina, we have a similar system: attend community college and finish your transfer AA or AS, and any public, in-state school has to accept all of your credits and start you as a junior. At my current college, some of my credits even transferred in as 300-level courses, which has been phenomenal.
It's always a good idea to look first at CC. I recently retired from an administrative position in our local CC and they have funding that will pay the tuition for any HS graduate for the full 2 years to earn an associate degree. That's free education with some of the very best instructors you will find. I love that our community, the administration, and faculty are so engaged in the education and success of our youth that graduates right out of high school can begin their college transfer program and all the tuition is covered by people who really want to see the student succeed. There is no shame in that!!!!!