It is nice seeing you get out of your main work booth and do more work outside... Folks on your channel will appreciate it more since it is more relatable 👍
I just need to figure out what compressor and paint guns to buy or too go with a turbine.. Not sure the turbine is sufficient being that it's only 9-11psi
The best tip I've learnt over the last 10 cars I've painted.... If you're not feeling it, or you feel like you are in a rush, take a step back, take a breather, and finish the job when you are ready. I painted both a car and a front bumper for the last 2 jobs and really messed them up. The car, I overfilled the gun bottle with clear and it dripped huge blobs on the hood, I also misplaced some tape onto a panel itself. The bumper, I had laying on the floor and tipped out most of the paint, I scooped it up and and filtered through 2 filters, but then I went on to bump the bumper itself with my hose quite bad after the paint job.... We all learn from our mistakes, but Brian you have saved us so much time by teaching us to do the job right from the beginning and I personally appreciate that so much, you are one of those youtube channels that are invaluable to an industry and you deserve everything you hope for out of your career and your RUclips channel :) Much love from Australia Brian, and I hope you get some rest over the holidays and new years
My lessons learned with the inflatable booth. Use quality 12g short as possible cords and put each blower on a separate circuit. Do a dry run and let your booth run for a few hours days before your project to make sure it works. Like on your final masking day just setup the booth and let it run to see what happens. Also the temperature inside the booth can get pretty hot if it's directly in the sun even when it is cool outside. Use a tarp or sheet material to block off the windows if it is an issue. Anything over a 10mph wind gets to be an problem, especially for a larger size booth. Airflow is pretty bad, but I painted a whole car in one recently (in three separate sessions) and it turned out great. It adds a ton of work getting the tent setup, cleaned, then the actual paint, cleaned again, and then finally folded up for storage. It is a very good option though for a DIY person and you can sell the booth when you're finished with your project.
I have a vevor paint booth and what I do is wet the floor when I paint to help trap dirt and debris and it works great to keep the trash out of my paint. I have gotten great results with it painting at home. Also on the fans where the air intake is I use a house AC filter and cut it to size to minimize the trash getting in via the turbines.
Great idea! To improve, make sure you have some filtered ventilation like these booths have. You can control the direction of overspray and keep any solvents from building up a too high concentration in your tent. A mask is obviously required, but even that is not perfect and I wouldn't be surprised if yours doesn't have built in eye protection. Getting solvent and paint mist in your eyes is no joke....
@ thanks for the help. I was going to put a few fans to push overspray out. I have a mask and I’ve been picking up everything I’ll need. I’m most likely going single stage paint. My 92 has white single stage from the factory. My whole life I’ve wanted to be able to paint a car hopefully it comes out ok.
@@6spd85notch also just to add, if you feel up to it, do a few panels at a time. a whole car is quite hard to do at home, mainly because of poor ventilation. and youre doing white singlestage so to me i think youll be okay to panel paint it. Good luck and cant wait to hear from you after you spray it
Your extension cord needs to be unrolled fully. at 10A (what your fan pulls) the wire gets "warm" not a problem with an unrolled cable, but if you keep it rolled up, "warm" turns into bloody hot and it will melt the plastic insulation of the cable and eventually short out. This has nothing to do with "AC" or magnetic fields, it is just a thermal ventilation issue. Source: my college education as an electrical engineer.
I have one of these and I tape fabric filter material (also used for electroplating) over the blower inlets. As I use mine indoors loads of overspray gets recycled into the booth and the filter material grabs a lot of it and also stops insects etc getting in. Will shorten the life of the blowers but helps a lot and shouldn't get clogged too quickly if you're outside
Nice work brother! I agree the turbine does have a learning curve but man when you get the gun dialed in it’s impressive. First time I tried it on sisters bumper it ran to the floor 😂but I didn’t have the gun setup and was trying to “lay it down” like I do with the Sata. After repainting it and slowing down it worked really well. You seem to have it figured out keep up the awesome content sir!
Bian when you use a reel with so many amps connected, you should unwind the entire extension from the reel. Due to heat this can cause a short circuit and fire in the wire Thx for all you help I’ve learned so much from you !! Greetings from the Netherlands
Hi Brian. A prayer to god certainly can’t hurt. I think overall the hood out slick for the all the advertising. We’ve all been there. Please enjoy your holiday with your beautiful family. Merry Christmas my friend.
hi when you are using the coiled lead you should really unroll all the cable from the drum and lay it out on the ground as when it is coiled it can act like a transformer ( makes the circuit draw more amps ) and can potentially you could end up bac where you started with the breaker tripping.
My thoughts are to put up a pvc internal frame (not glued) to hold the booth if the power goes out. Also possibly using tent stakes outside to keep it from blowing over.
I’m a mobile paint guy and turbine is the way to go for being mobile/diy. You can get great results. You just have to learn how to shoot with a turbine gun. The Apollo is probably the best there is. Also a small generator works good to power the turbine if you don’t have a good power source.
@ I’m pretty sure the same you used but let me double check it tomorrow I use the Apollo for clear only. I’m the one who tagged you in that Coca-Cola resto job. That I shot with the dv1
@@PaintSocietyApollo recommends the 0.8 but I prefer the 1.0 with the B-HS cap. Now I’ve gotten great results with the A cap and the 0.8 as well. I love my 7700t! I run mine on my FujiSpray Mini Mite 5. No beeping, just consistent airflow. I found slow reducers and activators work best with turbine spraying overall…at least for me. I’m by no means a professional. I just enjoy spraying and practicing. Videos like yours have taught me to experiment and learn. Next time try your FujiSpray Q5 and make any pressure adjustments on the air control knob if you’d like. Thanks for the video and I’m looking forward to the next one in the series.
If I could even get half that good of a finish, I would celebrate with a T-Bone on the barbie! Haha. Great job Brian, I wish I could get a handle on this spray gun thing, but my try yesterday most definitely proved that I need to keep building motorcycles, send out what I need painted and quit thinking I can paint. Have a Merry Xmas to you and yours!
About the zip-ties: I'm thinking just have some duct tape ready. You could attach the end and then pull/wrap it tight a lot quicker. But I was thinking the skeleton idea before too.
If you want to try again on choking the tube off to hold the air in, maybe try a small light duty ratchet strap. Have it wrapped around loosely when inflated. If it starts to fall, you can pull the strap tight through the ratchet head, and ratchet it down pretty quick. Much quicker than all those zip ties.
Make sure you're on two separate circuits where you're plugged your blowers into, do this by disconnecting the breaker for that receptacle, sometimes they put outside GFI receptacles on one circuit. A 15 amp breaker size gives you 12 amps, a 20 amp breaker size gives you 16 amps. You also might want to use a backup generator if you have power issues.
Thanks for the great video. Learning a lot here. btw... My understanding is the cloth on the booths are very porous and that is the reason for the constant air flow requirement. I could be wrong.
Brian, that hood is jinxed, cursed, bad juju. Donate it to one of the ammunition rltesting channels. 😂 Thanks for leaving it in so we know what to do though.
Well it looks familiar. My blow up booth blew over in the wind after spraying basecoat. Bent the edges of an aluminum Miata hood. YOU MUST STAKE THEM DOWN!!! i had very little wind but it flipped on its side. I wasn't as calm you were 😂😂😂
Thanks for demoing a practical application.. Its a good system for DIY for small volume projects. Big benefit that turbine eliminates any issues with oil vapors or condensation, so no extra filter is needed. It also blows warm air which is great when outside temps drops. I use Apollo spray gun but with Titan CapSpray 115 with remote power switch. The spray gun is of a good quality and works decent with 0.8 - 1.0 tips. But the gun is a bit bulky and feels heavy especially when spraying big horizontal areas such as car roof or a hood.. the company should really explore a possibility to make this gun lighter.. switching to composite plastic. The gun can be a bit confusing to adjust for beginners.. for those look into Fuji Spray guns which have a more traditional adjustment. For automotive painting stay with 08-1.0 tips
Just a heads up when using extension leads unwind them all the way as when coiled they will create lots of heat and melt keep going loving the vids and top quality spraying 👌
The tie wraps will help deflation in a pinch, but if the booth was air tight, you would only need to inflate it, not have a blower on it permanently. If you plan to use it this way, have some snips ready to cut the tie wraps after you switch power source and your blower is running again. You will likely need to do that really fast to prevent the booth from collapsing too far during the time you run inside to find something to cut the tie wraps with.
Think about a portable battery back up such as E1500LFP Expandable Portable Power Station 2200W 1536Wh. You charge it up and have it on standby. One critical factor is how many amps does the turbine draw when running? The unit is 110v so my GUESS is it's drawing around 12 amps while running. The machine has a data plate on it and will say power requirements. Definitely everything on different circuits. Most modern homes have 110v 20 AMP circuits while many older homes have 110v 15 AMP circuits. Either are fine to run your equipment. Now the battery backup. Keep it next to the outdoor duplex where you are running the fan for the paint booth. If you should have a POWER FAILURE or a TRIPPED CIRCUIT you can quickly remove the plug from the outlet to the battery. Should last well over an hour to keep it inflated.
There is a company that makes potable spray booths in America they are called mobile environmental solutions that look to work as good as a professional spray booth you should do a review on them
Remember to always fully roll your extension cord off the reel!! Especially if devices connected draw large amounts of current, or multiple are connected! When not rolled out, the cable heats up and creates high resistance itself. That can trigger the breaker. Merry Christmas & best wishes
How big is the outlet on the booth fan? A 4” pvc ball valve is $48 bucks at Lowe’s/Home Depot. I’m sure there are bigger ones out there but I’m sure some kind of ball valve would be a better fail safe than zip ties
For someone who has been out of the trade for 15 years(with 15 years experience 96-2010 ) and not kept up with anything. Has there been any big innovations in that time, that i need to be getting my self familiar with, i mean yea it's just paint work at the end of the day, I have been helping out a guy locally a couple times a week just to get up to speed again, in his place nothing has changed its seems since i last did the job, but i am going to be working at a much bigger more professional place, kind of looks like where Brian works/owns big dealership fixing new cars damaged in transit/insurance work but in the UK. Been watching quite a few of these videos now and one thing that got me was this "sealer" that kept being mentioned and being used, i was thinking is this some new mandatory step, then released it was just "wet on wet" which i think i only used on brand new panels, maybe once in a blue moon if the car colour was poor coverer. So yea if anyone has anything that they think i should be aware of please let me know and thx for the videos
It isn’t the cord that is the limit, it is the breaker. A standard circuit is 15 amps. A new build kitchen, garage or outside circuit is typically 20 amps.
Sure, but if you have a super long cord, a 12A load can trip a 15A circuit once the cord heats up. You can have split receptacles, like where a single receptacle has the top and bottom plug fed from two separate breakers. Unfortunately, that should have been done when the wire was initially run, since you need two runs of wire. What Brian has done here is the best thing, just get an extension cord and tap into another circuit temporarily. 👍
@ Length of cord is means little if the gauge is sufficient. He said he had a 12 gauge cord. That is plenty and more than the likely 14 gauge branch circuits he is connecting to. The cord won’t heat up and even if it did, that is not what trips a breaker. The breaker trips when it is overloaded or shorted. The concern with extension cords is voltage drop over distance. A 12 gauge extension will lose 3 to 5 volts over 50 to 100 feet on a 15 or 20 amp circuit.,
@@T3gliderif you are pushing the design limits of the equipment, that’s when you should start paying close attention. So most household breakers are 15amps, which gives you 1800 watts of “work done” before the breaker trips. Theoretically. The more often they trip, the weaker they get. And a 20amp breaker gets you 2400 watts. So take your constant state type device like a space heater. Most are rated 1200, 1500 tops, to keep everyone safe. But people are dumb and that’s how people die in fires. They’ll have a 1200 watt space heater going, plus the TV on the same circuit. Now we might be at 1400watts. Then they add in the second heater, just cause, why would anyone put effort into insulation anyways? 2400 watts, and it trips the 15amp breaker quickly. A 20amp breaker means it’s on the edge, but as it heats up, it will trip. So let’s stick with the 15amp, 1800 watt breaker. Let’s say each of those fans is 800 watts. Can anyone see where I’m going with this? So let’s use two, at full tilt, no timer, just peak power, times two, is 1600 watts. But we’re way out back and the power has to go all the way around to the front entrance of the garage, and at that point we have 200’ of extension cords. If it was one cord, zero connections in between, that would be best. If it were 10gauge, even better. But it’s not. It’s one 12 gauge 100’ cord, and one 12 gauge 50’ cord, and one 14 gauge 50’ cord. Damn, those connections each increase resistance, which increases heat, which increases resistance, and it becomes a helluva curve to the sky. So we lose, in loose numbers, 2 amps at each connection, so that’s 4, or 480 watts. Oh. Ouch. Let’s hope for only 1 amp of loss. We would still have 240 watts of work being done just to cross those lousy connections, and that means we are now at 1840watts. And that just the two fans. Then you add in ANYTHING else and you’re way over. Another thing to consider is how the devices load up. As the tent initially inflates, there’s not much load on the fans. Think of when you blew up a raft with your own lungs. When it got nearly full, it was much harder to inflate, right. Same with the fans. They might reach 800 only at the highest demand. And at other times it might be more like 600-700 watts, just to maintain the tent. But even then, it is constant, and those cables will heat up, and before long the heat alone can cost you a few amps, or 360 watts. The size of the cable doesn’t matter, ONLY IF YOU ARE nowhere near the edge of the rated usage. A 16 gauge extension cord is fine if the load you will be demanding of it is never more than say, 1000 or so watts. Ever notice how when a cable does melt, it’s usually at the connectors. All connections which are meant to be temporary are inferior to a solid connection, or no break in the line at all. Application, application, application.
I have the exact same size inflatable booth as you do. I use the blower, 2 fans, and the elephant trunk exhaust fan, plus my compressor, but I plug each into it's own power outlet. My booth has collapsed once, because I used an extension lead on the blower that wasn't up to the job, no problems since eliminating that lead though. I love my inflatable booth. Took a bit or trial and error to get it right, but it's brilliant now.
I need to get back on the elephant trunk. It does help out but its so much to lug in and out snd set up and the trunk itself is not flush with the ground so it needs to be propped up
What do you think about the 0.8 for base do you think the 1.0 would be better for base as well or just for clear because a two gun setup might be better if you think two different tip sizes for base and clear is best
I’m trying to help you here man lol… there are so many issues that can go wrong with painting, take this variable out of it. Get 1 or 2 canopy’s in there. Be the time you ran the other wire to another breaker, you could already have the canopy up. You will not have to worry about zip ties, switching plugs etc etc. etc…. You’re also not there the whole time babysitting it while the paint is flashing drying etc… remember, if you fail to plan, you have planned to fail
Probably would consider having a battery backup between the fans and the outlet so if the circuit does trip you'll have a bit more time to deal with it than having to run to save it and risk getting hurt in the process.
Think about a portable battery back up such as PECRON E1500LFP Expandable Portable Power Station 2200W 1536Wh. You charge it up and have it on standby. One critical factor is how many amps does the turbine draw when running? The unit is 110v so my GUESS is it's drawing around 12 amps while running. The machine has a data plate on it and will say power requirements. Definitely everything on different circuits. Most modern homes have 110v 20 AMP circuits while many older homes have 110v 15 AMP circuits. Either are fine to run your equipment. Now the battery backup. Keep it next to the outdoor duplex where you are running the fan for the paint booth. If you should have a POWER FAILURE or a TRIPPED CIRCUIT you can quickly remove the plug from the outlet to the battery. Should last well over an hour to keep it inflated.
You need to stay away from ground fault receptacles or ground fault breakers, they get hit they kick ! One of those zip ties is all you need for that !know it would have made you humidity worse but maybe water your floor down !
Great job on showing all the pitfalls and peaks and valleys of doing it at home. How much clear did you use do you think? 12 ounces total? Can't wait to see you start doing mobile paint job videos with that rig and getting a small 3500 / 5000 generator to run it all. Is a gutted astro van in your future? LOL
Those inflatable booths scare me. When deflated you get all the stuff on the floor all over the walls and ceiling that will land on your panel not to mention all the contaminants from the factory in China. They are "crossflow", which is the worst since all the stuff flows over the entire length of the booth.
You said that if the clear dries too fast the new coat won't melt with the old? Will there be clear coat burn if you don't reapply two new coats? Did you do a 3rd coat to account for all the die back and dirt that needs to be cut and compounded out? Is that the purpose of a "flow coat"?
That all will be cut n buff in the next video. It would be worse if i had 3 coats maybe causing solvent pop. Flat planel are tough. Maybe the 1.0 was too much material. Gotta figure it out.
You should try with a cheaper turbine like Fuji mini mite 2or3 or a harbor freight brand I think you can reach more of a audience with the cheaper ones most people can afford
In the beginning you etched and epoxied and then used filler but did not seal after the filler. Wouldn't it be better to apply body filler directly to metal and then seal over the whole thing with epoxy and then painting over epoxy? Or you still need the 2k primer over epoxy? Merry Christmas bro
Epoxy first on the metal. It is the absolute best way to protect the metal. The filler hardeners have water in them and down the road can cause rust. Burn throughs small enough after sanding filler can be sorted out with etch
LOL think up the zip tie idea in your sleep. You're like me your mind is always racing in the middle of the night. What would keep me up at night is the sky high property tax and maintenance on that beauty of a house
I think a 1500 UPS will give you more time and the beep sound will let you know you are out of electricity. You can get one at Costco in case you do not have one for your PC. Max load is 12 amps soonly one blower could be connected.
It is nice seeing you get out of your main work booth and do more work outside... Folks on your channel will appreciate it more since it is more relatable 👍
Yup! Its my most relatable content
I just need to figure out what compressor and paint guns to buy or too go with a turbine.. Not sure the turbine is sufficient being that it's only 9-11psi
2 of the best "diy" channel ;)
@@litare4328 Haha... Thanks man, appreciate it !! 👍
Brian - Thanks for taking the time to present both the good and the ugly - and how to recover from the ugly.
The best tip I've learnt over the last 10 cars I've painted.... If you're not feeling it, or you feel like you are in a rush, take a step back, take a breather, and finish the job when you are ready. I painted both a car and a front bumper for the last 2 jobs and really messed them up.
The car, I overfilled the gun bottle with clear and it dripped huge blobs on the hood, I also misplaced some tape onto a panel itself. The bumper, I had laying on the floor and tipped out most of the paint, I scooped it up and and filtered through 2 filters, but then I went on to bump the bumper itself with my hose quite bad after the paint job....
We all learn from our mistakes, but Brian you have saved us so much time by teaching us to do the job right from the beginning and I personally appreciate that so much, you are one of those youtube channels that are invaluable to an industry and you deserve everything you hope for out of your career and your RUclips channel :)
Much love from Australia Brian, and I hope you get some rest over the holidays and new years
Thats some great advice and so true! Happy holidays!
My lessons learned with the inflatable booth. Use quality 12g short as possible cords and put each blower on a separate circuit. Do a dry run and let your booth run for a few hours days before your project to make sure it works. Like on your final masking day just setup the booth and let it run to see what happens. Also the temperature inside the booth can get pretty hot if it's directly in the sun even when it is cool outside. Use a tarp or sheet material to block off the windows if it is an issue. Anything over a 10mph wind gets to be an problem, especially for a larger size booth. Airflow is pretty bad, but I painted a whole car in one recently (in three separate sessions) and it turned out great. It adds a ton of work getting the tent setup, cleaned, then the actual paint, cleaned again, and then finally folded up for storage. It is a very good option though for a DIY person and you can sell the booth when you're finished with your project.
I have a vevor paint booth and what I do is wet the floor when I paint to help trap dirt and debris and it works great to keep the trash out of my paint. I have gotten great results with it painting at home. Also on the fans where the air intake is I use a house AC filter and cut it to size to minimize the trash getting in via the turbines.
YES, YOU DON'T SEE MANY PEOPLE BUILDING A FILTERED BOX TO HOUSE THE INTAKE AIR. VERY IMPORTANT. WELL SAID.
Harbor freight 12x24 tent garage is what I plan on using to spray my white mustang this spring. I have 2 of them and they’re great for about 5 years.
I cant find HF 12x24 but i did find that size on amazon 🤞 im ordering the 20x20
Great idea! To improve, make sure you have some filtered ventilation like these booths have. You can control the direction of overspray and keep any solvents from building up a too high concentration in your tent. A mask is obviously required, but even that is not perfect and I wouldn't be surprised if yours doesn't have built in eye protection. Getting solvent and paint mist in your eyes is no joke....
@ thanks for the help. I was going to put a few fans to push overspray out. I have a mask and I’ve been picking up everything I’ll need. I’m most likely going single stage paint. My 92 has white single stage from the factory. My whole life I’ve wanted to be able to paint a car hopefully it comes out ok.
@@6spd85notch also just to add, if you feel up to it, do a few panels at a time. a whole car is quite hard to do at home, mainly because of poor ventilation. and youre doing white singlestage so to me i think youll be okay to panel paint it. Good luck and cant wait to hear from you after you spray it
Thanks Brian. This is why this is such a great channel
Happy new year to you all, thanks for all your hard work last year.
Your extension cord needs to be unrolled fully. at 10A (what your fan pulls) the wire gets "warm" not a problem with an unrolled cable, but if you keep it rolled up, "warm" turns into bloody hot and it will melt the plastic insulation of the cable and eventually short out. This has nothing to do with "AC" or magnetic fields, it is just a thermal ventilation issue. Source: my college education as an electrical engineer.
You are the man! Learning alot in the comments. Ty again for the great info!
I will be painting the dash on my 66 Chevelle soon. These videos are a tremendous resource. Thanks for making these videos.
I have one of these and I tape fabric filter material (also used for electroplating) over the blower inlets. As I use mine indoors loads of overspray gets recycled into the booth and the filter material grabs a lot of it and also stops insects etc getting in. Will shorten the life of the blowers but helps a lot and shouldn't get clogged too quickly if you're outside
Nice work brother! I agree the turbine does have a learning curve but man when you get the gun dialed in it’s impressive. First time I tried it on sisters bumper it ran to the floor 😂but I didn’t have the gun setup and was trying to “lay it down” like I do with the Sata. After repainting it and slowing down it worked really well. You seem to have it figured out keep up the awesome content sir!
Yeah the gun can be finicky but once you get it set up it works like a charm. 😀😀
Bian when you use a reel with so many amps connected, you should unwind the entire extension from the reel. Due to heat this can cause a short circuit and fire in the wire
Thx for all you help I’ve learned so much from you !!
Greetings from the Netherlands
Hi Brian. A prayer to god certainly can’t hurt. I think overall the hood out slick for the all the advertising. We’ve all been there. Please enjoy your holiday with your beautiful family. Merry Christmas my friend.
Just throwing it out there...... brians got an amazingly nice place 😂
Nice work man!!
Looks really good Brain, the Apollo is a great system, and the hose is so much lighter than the fuji hose
It really is i agree
hi when you are using the coiled lead you should really unroll all the cable from the drum and lay it out on the ground as when it is coiled it can act like a transformer ( makes the circuit draw more amps ) and can potentially you could end up bac where you started with the breaker tripping.
Would love to see more at home videos 😊
Really good video Brian
Heck yeah AND ACTION!
My thoughts are to put up a pvc internal frame (not glued) to hold the booth if the power goes out. Also possibly using tent stakes outside to keep it from blowing over.
I’m a mobile paint guy and turbine is the way to go for being mobile/diy. You can get great results. You just have to learn how to shoot with a turbine gun. The Apollo is probably the best there is. Also a small generator works good to power the turbine if you don’t have a good power source.
What fluid tip for clear?
@ I’m pretty sure the same you used but let me double check it tomorrow I use the Apollo for clear only. I’m the one who tagged you in that Coca-Cola resto job. That I shot with the dv1
@@PaintSocietyApollo recommends the 0.8 but I prefer the 1.0 with the B-HS cap. Now I’ve gotten great results with the A cap and the 0.8 as well. I love my 7700t! I run mine on my FujiSpray Mini Mite 5. No beeping, just consistent airflow. I found slow reducers and activators work best with turbine spraying overall…at least for me. I’m by no means a professional. I just enjoy spraying and practicing. Videos like yours have taught me to experiment and learn. Next time try your FujiSpray Q5 and make any pressure adjustments on the air control knob if you’d like. Thanks for the video and I’m looking forward to the next one in the series.
If I could even get half that good of a finish, I would celebrate with a T-Bone on the barbie! Haha. Great job Brian, I wish I could get a handle on this spray gun thing, but my try yesterday most definitely proved that I need to keep building motorcycles, send out what I need painted and quit thinking I can paint. Have a Merry Xmas to you and yours!
Ty! It actually dried pretty dull! Stay tuned for next video. Ty for the love and merry christmas
About the zip-ties: I'm thinking just have some duct tape ready. You could attach the end and then pull/wrap it tight a lot quicker. But I was thinking the skeleton idea before too.
If you want to try again on choking the tube off to hold the air in, maybe try a small light duty ratchet strap. Have it wrapped around loosely when inflated. If it starts to fall, you can pull the strap tight through the ratchet head, and ratchet it down pretty quick. Much quicker than all those zip ties.
I’m new I think I find everything that I was looking for
Make sure you're on two separate circuits where you're plugged your blowers into, do this by disconnecting the breaker for that receptacle, sometimes they put outside GFI receptacles on one circuit. A 15 amp breaker size gives you 12 amps, a 20 amp breaker size gives you 16 amps. You also might want to use a backup generator if you have power issues.
Thanks for the great video. Learning a lot here. btw... My understanding is the cloth on the booths are very porous and that is the reason for the constant air flow requirement. I could be wrong.
Brian, that hood is jinxed, cursed, bad juju. Donate it to one of the ammunition rltesting channels. 😂 Thanks for leaving it in so we know what to do though.
Yes, more videos like this.
Well it looks familiar. My blow up booth blew over in the wind after spraying basecoat. Bent the edges of an aluminum Miata hood. YOU MUST STAKE THEM DOWN!!! i had very little wind but it flipped on its side. I wasn't as calm you were 😂😂😂
Thanks for demoing a practical application.. Its a good system for DIY for small volume projects. Big benefit that turbine eliminates any issues with oil vapors or condensation, so no extra filter is needed. It also blows warm air which is great when outside temps drops.
I use Apollo spray gun but with Titan CapSpray 115 with remote power switch. The spray gun is of a good quality and works decent with 0.8 - 1.0 tips. But the gun is a bit bulky and feels heavy especially when spraying big horizontal areas such as car roof or a hood.. the company should really explore a possibility to make this gun lighter.. switching to composite plastic.
The gun can be a bit confusing to adjust for beginners.. for those look into Fuji Spray guns which have a more traditional adjustment. For automotive painting stay with 08-1.0 tips
😂 that oh shoot when you ran out of clear seem so familiar the panic and rush to make it right
Just a heads up when using extension leads unwind them all the way as when coiled they will create lots of heat and melt keep going loving the vids and top quality spraying 👌
Thanks for the info!
Such a helpful video ❤
The tie wraps will help deflation in a pinch, but if the booth was air tight, you would only need to inflate it, not have a blower on it permanently. If you plan to use it this way, have some snips ready to cut the tie wraps after you switch power source and your blower is running again. You will likely need to do that really fast to prevent the booth from collapsing too far during the time you run inside to find something to cut the tie wraps with.
Try a long velcro strip. The ones with the loop on the end can be pulled tight quickly, and it is reusable. Amazon has a lot of varieties.
For a backyard job it come out rly good. greetz from Germany 🤟
Ty my friend!
I would run the fans off 2 separate circuits and keep the inflation blower on the best one.
Perfect place!!!Mery christmass from greece!!
Happy holidays!
you should try to use another GFCI protected circuit from indoors if possible (the outdoor circuit is already GFCI)
Think about a portable battery back up such as E1500LFP Expandable Portable Power Station 2200W 1536Wh. You charge it up and have it on standby. One critical factor is how many amps does the turbine draw when running? The unit is 110v so my GUESS is it's drawing around 12 amps while running. The machine has a data plate on it and will say power requirements. Definitely everything on different circuits. Most modern homes have 110v 20 AMP circuits while many older homes have 110v 15 AMP circuits. Either are fine to run your equipment. Now the battery backup. Keep it next to the outdoor duplex where you are running the fan for the paint booth. If you should have a POWER FAILURE or a TRIPPED CIRCUIT you can quickly remove the plug from the outlet to the battery. Should last well over an hour to keep it inflated.
Love the channel and appreciate the prayer and thanking God! Great to see fellow brothers in Christ showing our Lord some love!
A little prayer goes a long way. Look it worked!
@ 🙏 Amen!!
There is a company that makes potable spray booths in America they are called mobile environmental solutions that look to work as good as a professional spray booth you should do a review on them
Remember to always fully roll your extension cord off the reel!!
Especially if devices connected draw large amounts of current, or multiple are connected!
When not rolled out, the cable heats up and creates high resistance itself.
That can trigger the breaker.
Merry Christmas & best wishes
I never knew that! Ty for the tip!
How big is the outlet on the booth fan? A 4” pvc ball valve is $48 bucks at Lowe’s/Home Depot.
I’m sure there are bigger ones out there but I’m sure some kind of ball valve would be a better fail safe than zip ties
That was real! Thank you!
I'm glad you liked it!
I had the same problem with my paint booth.I pulled out my generator that solved the problem.
For someone who has been out of the trade for 15 years(with 15 years experience 96-2010 ) and not kept up with anything. Has there been any big innovations in that time, that i need to be getting my self familiar with, i mean yea it's just paint work at the end of the day, I have been helping out a guy locally a couple times a week just to get up to speed again, in his place nothing has changed its seems since i last did the job, but i am going to be working at a much bigger more professional place, kind of looks like where Brian works/owns big dealership fixing new cars damaged in transit/insurance work but in the UK.
Been watching quite a few of these videos now and one thing that got me was this "sealer" that kept being mentioned and being used, i was thinking is this some new mandatory step, then released it was just "wet on wet" which i think i only used on brand new panels, maybe once in a blue moon if the car colour was poor coverer.
So yea if anyone has anything that they think i should be aware of please let me know and thx for the videos
Do you provide painting classes? An onsite class would be awesome
It isn’t the cord that is the limit, it is the breaker. A standard circuit is 15 amps. A new build kitchen, garage or outside circuit is typically 20 amps.
YES!!!
Sure, but if you have a super long cord, a 12A load can trip a 15A circuit once the cord heats up.
You can have split receptacles, like where a single receptacle has the top and bottom plug fed from two separate breakers. Unfortunately, that should have been done when the wire was initially run, since you need two runs of wire.
What Brian has done here is the best thing, just get an extension cord and tap into another circuit temporarily. 👍
@ Length of cord is means little if the gauge is sufficient. He said he had a 12 gauge cord. That is plenty and more than the likely 14 gauge branch circuits he is connecting to. The cord won’t heat up and even if it did, that is not what trips a breaker. The breaker trips when it is overloaded or shorted. The concern with extension cords is voltage drop over distance. A 12 gauge extension will lose 3 to 5 volts over 50 to 100 feet on a 15 or 20 amp circuit.,
I didn't know that thanks!
@@T3gliderif you are pushing the design limits of the equipment, that’s when you should start paying close attention. So most household breakers are 15amps, which gives you 1800 watts of “work done” before the breaker trips. Theoretically. The more often they trip, the weaker they get. And a 20amp breaker gets you 2400 watts. So take your constant state type device like a space heater. Most are rated 1200, 1500 tops, to keep everyone safe. But people are dumb and that’s how people die in fires. They’ll have a 1200 watt space heater going, plus the TV on the same circuit. Now we might be at 1400watts. Then they add in the second heater, just cause, why would anyone put effort into insulation anyways? 2400 watts, and it trips the 15amp breaker quickly. A 20amp breaker means it’s on the edge, but as it heats up, it will trip. So let’s stick with the 15amp, 1800 watt breaker. Let’s say each of those fans is 800 watts. Can anyone see where I’m going with this? So let’s use two, at full tilt, no timer, just peak power, times two, is 1600 watts. But we’re way out back and the power has to go all the way around to the front entrance of the garage, and at that point we have 200’ of extension cords. If it was one cord, zero connections in between, that would be best. If it were 10gauge, even better. But it’s not. It’s one 12 gauge 100’ cord, and one 12 gauge 50’ cord, and one 14 gauge 50’ cord. Damn, those connections each increase resistance, which increases heat, which increases resistance, and it becomes a helluva curve to the sky. So we lose, in loose numbers, 2 amps at each connection, so that’s 4, or 480 watts. Oh. Ouch. Let’s hope for only 1 amp of loss. We would still have 240 watts of work being done just to cross those lousy connections, and that means we are now at 1840watts. And that just the two fans. Then you add in ANYTHING else and you’re way over. Another thing to consider is how the devices load up. As the tent initially inflates, there’s not much load on the fans. Think of when you blew up a raft with your own lungs. When it got nearly full, it was much harder to inflate, right. Same with the fans. They might reach 800 only at the highest demand. And at other times it might be more like 600-700 watts, just to maintain the tent. But even then, it is constant, and those cables will heat up, and before long the heat alone can cost you a few amps, or 360 watts. The size of the cable doesn’t matter, ONLY IF YOU ARE nowhere near the edge of the rated usage. A 16 gauge extension cord is fine if the load you will be demanding of it is never more than say, 1000 or so watts. Ever notice how when a cable does melt, it’s usually at the connectors. All connections which are meant to be temporary are inferior to a solid connection, or no break in the line at all. Application, application, application.
A one way valve between the pump and the booth would be a better idea. simple thing to make, but probable available to buy off the shelf.
How are you doing to pump it back up if it is zip ties you need wire cutters ready to go to un do the zip ties
Teacher that clear You used you can tell me or it's private I see all your videos
Sprayed a sport bike in my garage with a harbor freight 10x10 pop up and some home depot appliance drop plastics duct tape around.
I have the exact same size inflatable booth as you do. I use the blower, 2 fans, and the elephant trunk exhaust fan, plus my compressor, but I plug each into it's own power outlet.
My booth has collapsed once, because I used an extension lead on the blower that wasn't up to the job, no problems since eliminating that lead though.
I love my inflatable booth. Took a bit or trial and error to get it right, but it's brilliant now.
I need to get back on the elephant trunk. It does help out but its so much to lug in and out snd set up and the trunk itself is not flush with the ground so it needs to be propped up
What do you think about the 0.8 for base do you think the 1.0 would be better for base as well or just for clear because a two gun setup might be better if you think two different tip sizes for base and clear is best
I’m trying to help you here man lol… there are so many issues that can go wrong with painting, take this variable out of it. Get 1 or 2 canopy’s in there. Be the time you ran the other wire to another breaker, you could already have the canopy up. You will not have to worry about zip ties, switching plugs etc etc. etc…. You’re also not there the whole time babysitting it while the paint is flashing drying etc… remember, if you fail to plan, you have planned to fail
Looks great
Probably would consider having a battery backup between the fans and the outlet so if the circuit does trip you'll have a bit more time to deal with it than having to run to save it and risk getting hurt in the process.
Can you suggest one ?
Think about a portable battery back up such as PECRON E1500LFP Expandable Portable Power Station 2200W 1536Wh. You charge it up and have it on standby. One critical factor is how many amps does the turbine draw when running? The unit is 110v so my GUESS is it's drawing around 12 amps while running. The machine has a data plate on it and will say power requirements. Definitely everything on different circuits. Most modern homes have 110v 20 AMP circuits while many older homes have 110v 15 AMP circuits. Either are fine to run your equipment. Now the battery backup. Keep it next to the outdoor duplex where you are running the fan for the paint booth. If you should have a POWER FAILURE or a TRIPPED CIRCUIT you can quickly remove the plug from the outlet to the battery. Should last well over an hour to keep it inflated.
Got the Apollo 6 pro, now looking at the sewinfla inflatable booth…so thanks for the turbine tips!
Good choice! I will pass as much knowledge as i can
put you a filter on the inlet of your fan so it doesn't blow dust into the booth.
Happy Birthday brian!
Hi do you use the the sander all the time ordo you hand sand as well
So what is a better clear you would recommend over the Eastwood clear?
Are you going to do any painting using your Eastwood scroll compressor and did you buy the new automatic moisture drain kit for it?
Damn cuz that's a nice neighborhood for a painter we usually live in trailer parks and hoods
I work 3 jobs. I know alot of painters that live a decent life
You need to stay away from ground fault receptacles or ground fault breakers, they get hit they kick ! One of those zip ties is all you need for that !know it would have made you humidity worse but maybe water your floor down !
I have the fuji Q5 platinum. What's the difference between the Apollo and fuji q5?
Great job on showing all the pitfalls and peaks and valleys of doing it at home. How much clear did you use do you think? 12 ounces total? Can't wait to see you start doing mobile paint job videos with that rig and getting a small 3500 / 5000 generator to run it all. Is a gutted astro van in your future? LOL
Those inflatable booths scare me. When deflated you get all the stuff on the floor all over the walls and ceiling that will land on your panel not to mention all the contaminants from the factory in China. They are "crossflow", which is the worst since all the stuff flows over the entire length of the booth.
Did you only get the 3/16 Milwaukee sander? Do you use that throughout the whole process? No 3/32?
Beautiful house! I’m 24. We talked I’m the one guy that paints boats. Something like your house is my future goals
Ty Nick! Wanted a place to do some work in the backyard with a nice view
@ your garage set up is a dream as well! I’m hoping next year when I plan to move and try to switch to cars from boats I’m not too old to start!
One way ball valve from a wet and dry vacume
One more mistake never leave extension core half rouled when using powerful electric, because its like magnetic coil and you potensioly can fry cable
You said that if the clear dries too fast the new coat won't melt with the old? Will there be clear coat burn if you don't reapply two new coats? Did you do a 3rd coat to account for all the die back and dirt that needs to be cut and compounded out? Is that the purpose of a "flow coat"?
That all will be cut n buff in the next video. It would be worse if i had 3 coats maybe causing solvent pop. Flat planel are tough. Maybe the 1.0 was too much material. Gotta figure it out.
Try a single zip tie I think you'd be able to do it faster. Get to it grab it and zip it
My thoughts exactly!
@PaintSociety you could also make a gate valve put it in line at the blower make it so the air can flow in but not out.
@@taz9433I think you mean check valve? But yes, that would be a clever solution
6 to 12 in away for spraying or you will build up over spray and fish eyes
You should try with a cheaper turbine like Fuji mini mite 2or3 or a harbor freight brand I think you can reach more of a audience with the cheaper ones most people can afford
Was that the Temu prayer at the beginning? 😊
Yes lol
In the beginning you etched and epoxied and then used filler but did not seal after the filler. Wouldn't it be better to apply body filler directly to metal and then seal over the whole thing with epoxy and then painting over epoxy? Or you still need the 2k primer over epoxy? Merry Christmas bro
Epoxy first on the metal. It is the absolute best way to protect the metal. The filler hardeners have water in them and down the road can cause rust. Burn throughs small enough after sanding filler can be sorted out with etch
LOL think up the zip tie idea in your sleep. You're like me your mind is always racing in the middle of the night. What would keep me up at night is the sky high property tax and maintenance on that beauty of a house
Only 30 more years of making videos and it will be paid off
You're talking about dirt, im not seeing anything there. That job looks great 👍
Its there. The camera has a hard time picking it up but youll catch it in the next video
The words that came from a teacher I could definitely tell without a doubt it wasn’t staged lol wasn’t even a thought in my mind.
I for sure would like to set up this booth the least amount possible lol
Some 1/4" cord with a loop in the end wrapped around your duct would be quicker.
Great idea!
You need to roll all the extension cable out not leave some coiled on the reel pal.
Have a generator on standby lol
Hey bud you could use a gazebo inside the tent over your workpiece..
I just saved myself a hundred and fifty bucks, if it ain't shoelada i don't want nada.
668...damnit!!!!
I think a 1500 UPS will give you more time and the beep sound will let you know you are out of electricity. You can get one at Costco in case you do not have one for your PC. Max load is 12 amps soonly one blower could be connected.
Good tip!
I think that your zip tie trick should be tested before you completely set up
I didn’t have any more zip ties left to reset it up
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Glad I didn't get the Apollo now , that auto shut off is so dumb. Let me control my equipment.
bro, roll out the whole spindel. youre creating a coil electric field this way. danger
Ty for the advice
@@PaintSociety it will get hot and melt if you run a high charge on it. good luck. and ''hold my beer''😝😝
👍👍👍🍀🍀
On earth as it is in heaven
Yea i got nervous 🥲
@ well Jesus is who I call on too for all things.have a merry Christmas from my family to your family and friends
I’m just saying it would’ve been easier for you to strip it down to metal then sealer,base,clearcoat🤦🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️🤯🤣
Why don't you zip tie it shut once you blown up😂
Get a generator