How to Paint Single Stage without Orange Peel
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- In this episode we show you how to paint single stage and add a special touch to your project by giving it the clearcoat protection. This guide will put you in the driver's seat to knock out any single stage stae project from your garage or shop in no time!
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Awesome ,Thank you my brother for being with us on this project, you escaped me this time from grabbing the paint gun, but next time we're going to spray paint both together, thank you for the support and being there when I've called you, we had a great time 😎👍
This was a great project! Everyone make sure y’all subscribe to Pedro’s channel!
Doesn’t clear on white tend to yellow over time??
@@Adanaconyes
The owner's reaction says it all. I'm happy for him. I'd love to see a follow up showing the completed job.
Hello, watcher from across the pond here. After binge watching hundreds of hours of videos, many of which on this channel. Just wanted to say thanks for the content. Recently did my first paint job using a LVLP a610 and a small compressor, this was on a bare metal tubular chassis using 2k epoxy primer followed by 2k single stage metallic but I will go on to paint the car itself once it's built. Still lots for me to learn but this type of content has been invaluable to getting the confidence to have a try so thanks, keep up the good work!
I used the Nason single stage on my mom’s Miata using this introduction first coat and then two heavy coats after and three years later and it still looks great!
How much did it cost you all in?
@@papasmurf986 It was under $400. There’s videos on my channel of the original paint job and then a follow up a couple months ago
@@thebeardsgarage thanks...have a 944 I need painted...just had the bumpers and valance painted with Nadon Single Stage so trying to figure how much paint I will need.
@@papasmurf986under $400 if you buy sandpaper,tape , paper , thinner,paint,clear coat and everything else needed to do the job. eBay has great deals for this paint and clear personal the sherwin-Williams finish 1 is a much better clear coat has a better shine and will last longer too.
I really like the slower pace presentation of your current videos and over the last little bit. It's much easier for me to follow as a very inexperienced painter
This is definitely the smarter way to do single stage for max gloss.
My most recent job the third coat of single stage is where I got to much build up and runs. Which are easy to cut and buff out ESPECIALLY on single stage solid color. But these guys definitely did a great job!
nason products are also another one of the best DIY friendly budget paints that give a professional finish.
Always good to see you and Pedro together
Finally single stage,i hope we gonna see more of it,keep up the good work,so inspiring.
These guys know their business. It's awesome to watch artists at work.
Yet they left a decent sized dent in the hood and claimed this to be a $5k paint job? I guess some of y'all will believe and buy into anything huh?
@@ls4.8frankwhere’s the dent?
I so much thank you for this video. As hobbiest and live in a city with no proper room or equipment, this video changed my mind and helped a lot. I tried and failed both BC/CC and SS in my limited situation, but finally had successful result last night with single stage paint and clear coat. It was genius idea and very forgiven even in my limited situation. Thank you Brian.
Great job. I have a 93 z71 I'm restoring and this video was perfect. Love the way you explain the process. It really helps us beginners and gives me confidence.
Beautiful! When you talk about keeping the wet edge, I deeply regret having tossed my early 80's Martin Senour paint chip book. It had a great tech section which included a diagram of how to move around a full sized car (single stage back then) to keep the edges wet. I recall those jobs as being extremely frantic, especially when you needed to refill the gun. Laying the hose out in the proper shape on the floor to facilitate moving from side to side and front to back was equally important. Like you say, basecoat clear is much easier and forgiving. Metallics were nearly impossible to get wet without zebra stripes. Great video as always!
Great timing with this video, My brother and I have been talking about repainting his car in single stage to keep cost down and I'm used to spraying basecoat and clear. Going back black with it; a little less forgiving than white would be, but this video helped give me the confidence to give it a shot.
I did single stage and had fish eyes EVRYWHERE. But the guy was a seasoned fisherman, so I told him I added the fish eyes to honor his fishing passion. He was thrilled, and all of his fishing buddies were jealous.
This video reaffirmed my suspicions of issues i had laying out paint. Ive only done a few cars and it was years ago but had issues with orange peel and always suspected using medium hardner and reducer rather than slow was causing most of the issues. We'll see how my next goes hopefully this spring or summer. Thanks for sharing your info. Great channel!
Great job, I like how you explained painting from the back of the booth to the front and really making a point about keeping a wet edge. 👍
Well done Brian. First time I did a base/clear job my first thought was this is easy………….that was after many years of essentially shooting single stage (urethanes, enamels, lacquer…..)
I came across your channel when I decided to paint to paint my 99 2dr Tahoe. SICK!!!
Omg this came in clutch I start my new job Monday spraying single stage and never sprayed it before this is gonna help me impress my boss! Thanks!
Ive sprayed single stage for over 12 years and used all the top guns and my 2 favorite guns are the lph400 and teknas. It'll take you a little bit to get used to them but they are fun (imo). Only thing I do differently from the video is how long I wait to apply clear. I do wait 15-30 min depending on the weather or thinners used. I've had reactions with the clear and paint if I go in there right afterwards. good luck with the new job
@@Whitening98thank you I was actually looking at lph400 highly suggested gun I appreciate the advice
@@ej1james954no problem
I didn't use the lph400 until like 3 years ago and fell in love with how it sprayed single stage and clear.
@@ej1james954just an fyi, the lph silver cap is pretty much general purpose but in my opinion works best with clear and single stage, you can't go wrong with the orange cap either in my opinion the fan that one produces is a bit more comfortable to work with.
Beautiful work. I've painted many cars in my youth (40+ years ago). Great tips and your guys are talented. I wished I had Pedro's wing span.
Finally a single stage video
Thank you Brian.
We took an engine bay from rattle can black to single stage red (body color) recently. It come out beautiful thanks tp tips ive picked up by watching your channel.
I've been waiting for a single stage video. Can't wait til it warms up so I can paint my truck. Thanks Brian.
I have recently been spraying some fiberglass airplane parts. I discovered on my own that the first coat should be thin. Wish I would have seen this video first!! I was trying to make it shine on the first coat, and getting runs like crazy. I then put a thin coat on, and pounded the second coat with great shine and no runs. It lays out so nice too! Sometimes I would get little bubbles in the paint from tiny pores in the fiberglass. I would pound a third coat over those areas and they would fill right in and not even need sanding or buffing. I used Omni single stage and it seems to work really well with the gloss hardener. Love this stuff.
What a beautiful paint job!!! Those guys are incredible with the guns.
Congratulations on 500K!!😁😁
Great job guys. The owner should be happy. Nice wing span Pedro. Thanks Brian!
Speechless, man ,...two words,....love it!!❤ paint society is the crack
Class has started... 👏 👏 👏 Nice shout out to Marco! 🎨
So beautiful. Thanks Brian. 🙏🇬🇧
amazing video! appreciate the detailed narration. Thanks!
Brian,
Thanks for the content you produce. My Collision Repair classlovese to watch and learn from all of your videos!
Turned out awesome!
I just did my first single stage it was electric blue metallic by Hot Rod Flatz. Did it with the Kiwami4 on about 30 psi and it turned out great with zero orange peel. Followed pretty much the same method but before first coat did a few fine mist coats because I was spraying around 55 degrees. Did mine one panel at a time and used an infrared space heater to help speed drying.
My teacher God bless you brother
ABOUT TIME YOU DID SOME SINGLE STAGE!!! NICE DUDE 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Did you hear the shout out ?
Yes thanks! Yes we do have the best single stages that cover in one coat, but don't be a Dumbo like me and try 3 😂😂
I love what you do for teaching me to learn how to do this I am just a60,s year old woodworker learn to do this on our vehicles first time we have a 1977 ford super cab long bed 1995 Chevy ext cab long bed 1998 Cadillac concourse and 2000 ford f250 super duty v10 6.8 crew cab and they All need paint and body work I will send you progress pictures when I start thank you for your channel Bill the deaf man can woodworker from Kansas
Beautiful job!
Great video and job guys! I spray a lot of single stage and it’s definitely a different animal. Wish I had those Pedro skills…very impressive!
Very nice job , admittedly I’m not the best painter in the world and don’t do it for a living but I always take the doors / wings etc off . Makes it so much easier especially if you don’t have a spray booth.
Second tip although some may disagree/ job dependent is say when painting a door paint one side first and get some wrap round, leave it to harden properly. Then block back and dust / overspray and then paint the other side .
This takes the stress out of dust issues in cavities and actually holding the panels.
Technically then it’s only the shells rear 1/4 / roof skin to do in one hit and if you F up it’s a lot easier to just blow in / re paint.
Never underestimate how hard and skilled someone needs to be to paint a car .
Oh and yeah it sounds stupid and obvious but make sure ALL your panels fit , PROPERLY!!!! 😂
You guys are beasts of the beasts , GOD bless all you guys talents
Congratulations on 500 thousand subscribers!!
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Yay! Thank you!
Thanks for in info it will help me with my next project
Big truck like this is a true project. There is a reason single stage paint is so much better. I can’t help myself though and go for at least 3 coats of clear because I love that forever depth to the finish.
This is great. Thank you.
Amazing job guys
That turned out real clean, now I know that you can spray clear over single stage 😁 thank you paint society.
Just check the product sheets for the times allowed and don't rush it, if you clear to soon with some higher end products it will dry dull.
Congrats on the new channel.
Another great clip A1 indeed.
🤘🏼🤘🏼 Thanks for the awesome lessons! Vote for Pedro, that reach is insane.
Pedro with that 76" reach lol
Love some Fulthane!
Great videos by the way.
Used to shoot alot of Imron on Peterbilts and etc.
Single stage metallics were the thing on those trucks back in the day.
Good lord they were a pain in the rear to spray!
Keep up the great work 😎
You done the great job!
I painted like that in the 80s always came out perfect
I painted like that and had small moon craters all over paint the next day , you dont use 2 stage clear on top of single stage paint
Perfect. My black 99 2dr 2 wd Tahoe needs some love. I love black but white on a Tahoe or Blazer looks great also. I’m in Florida so white with turquoise pinstripes would be great at the beach.
The beauty with single stage paint is you can re-coat to cover imperfections. The disadvantage to single stage (without a coat of clear) it is difficult to do a blend in case of body damage. Also with metallics there is a trade off between the flake laying down right and orange peel. As usual Brian, well done!😎
Also they say you shouldn’t buff/polish metallic single stage. With metallics I notice that they tend to mottle very much, especially the larger/coarser flakes
@@erickt2665 very true!
A blending solvent like Sikkens SRA reducer will make any blend invisible even without buffing if you know how.
As said, the blending solvent is a great tool. They work. Blend into the next panel with an elongated S diagonal pattern.
For all over metalics, get plenty of wet EVEN paint (three medium wet coats) coverage on the car with slow reducer, let dry to the touch of the tape. Then reduce the paint another 30% and spray it with a fast arm stroke from 50% farther away in random directions. Do this "just" before you can touch the paint on the tape. Don't get carried away with this last drop coat or it will go dull in a year.
All I do is blends for local dealers and metalic single stage all overs for local body shops. But then, I'm still using 40-year-old Binks 7 and Devilbiss guns, so.
@@user-mp8er1ds9x "Old Timers" could blend single stage well. Every time I did I would get solvent droplets all over the place. My Willys Coupe I is wearing 30 yr old Centari enamel on it and everytime I do a blend I have to let it sit a yr or so before buffing it or I get a dark line on the edge of my blend. Then again the great outdoors is my spray booth! 😆
That was a great white to pick and with the clear on top it pops.
Good job👍👍
Back when I was painting Nason paint was the cheapest paint you could buy, now looking like it’s building a new name for itself.
I was doing mobile body and painting repairs on cars and trucks.
U the man appreciate the tips and tricks again I can wait for the weather to break I'm getting back at it again Keep It coming motivation 👀 🍿 remember it's just paint lol nice 🙏
Dam! Really wanted to see that all complete and back together
Nice Video. I spray a Lot Of Single Stage even Metallic, I Learn on the 70' when Centari Dupont, Acrilic enamel was the rule. I always begin and finish with slow reducer , slow activator, plus retarder. Adjusting the fluid in the gun to mirror spray, and by myself keeping the shine even start to finish, giving and testing the flash time. Single stage without a clear topcoat last longer, and when fade , onlyy need a compound and come back like new. I only mix clear with single stage on metallic , evrething slow start to finish and a fog coat 1to1 clear and color mix, when the system is 4 to 1.
looking good guys
Bro I literally just did single stage last weekend after searching THROUGH ALL of your videos for a how to and now this 😅
Gracias por los videos 👍
Looks great, I'll be painting a 30th anniversary Camaro soon artic white. Hopefully it comes out as nice
Congrats on 500k subs
Thanks my friend!
That is one clean square body now. Wow!
Damn! Dear old dad was an auto body man & painter. Our jobs never came out that clean! I remember late nights sanding & prepping for paint jobs. I purchased a white 05 regular cab Tacoma 5 lug that was neglected during COVID. It set in the back of a Portland yard with the windows down about 3”. I've gutted & replaced the seats & carpet with new. At this time I’m going through the entire drivetrain & replacing everything that has fluid flowing through it. New brakes, ball & U- joints, shocks Yada Yada Yada. Where are you guys located as I LOVE to have you lay down another single stage white w/ a clear coat on a Tacoma. Oh I’ve lowered it on coil-overs about 2.5 & 3.5” so it shouldn’t be difficult to reach over. :😁
I use an small booth and I have someone trail me and keep an eye for the hose to not touch the job and if spraying alone mix up multiple cups to keep up with the flash time.great video
I miss Dupont Centari acrylic enamel single stage and a Binks #7 spray gun layed down metalic colors well, the Centari hardner brought out tbe gloss and added durability. That truck in the video came out great with that Nason single stage paint.
yes, Centari rocked and would lay nice and flat without all the orange peel of these urethane paints. Urethane is made to match factory and always shrinks back , if you want it flat you need to sand and polish it.
had my 71 superb sprayed about three years ago in a downdraft with Dupont Centari 99a. no cut, no buff. It's stunning paint. Still putting it back together. lol
Totally important to protect yourself. Many years ago I was painting with an autopaint that had isocyanates. Those go straight through the skin. I had a good respirator for organic solvents, but I didn't have my arms fully covered. Yeah, you feel it pretty fast. I covered myself in a proper suit and was ok. But yeah... autopaint isn't something I mess with, though I imagine today's formulas are less.. dangerous.. possibly.
Most single stage urethanes made today have an isocyanate component.
So nice to see guys working on a 'real size' vehicle! :D
Where I live, this (being lowered) would be considered small.... haha...
Good job
Back in the day single stage was my fav dupont centari ppg durcryl excellent and be sure if your spraying metallic it needs to flash longer so you don't have metallic movements
PPG Duracryl was Lacquer. PPG acrylic Enamel was Delstar.
I love your videos. The way you explain your technique is great. Could you tell me where you got the summit white? I'm restoring a 93 Chevy truck the same color. Thanks for the videos.
I hope that in the future my friend's business will be more and more successful
I am a vehicle paint sprayer, I will always start at the top and finish at the bottom, and as you said always work towards the fan
3:40 I never had anyone explain this to me but I came to figure it out over time and have had many disputes with my father regarding how to spray using the system we use to what he is used to from back in the day 😂
Heck yes man!!!
500k subs !!! Finally 😮
Excellent video. Thank you. I’m looking to do this with my ‘88 K5 (square body). Plan to redo it in the same as the factory two tone. White-red stripe-white bottom. Should be the same white as this ‘96. At what point would I do the red?
1. Finish the whole truck out with a couple coats of white how I want it. 2. Allow it to fully dry. 3. Tape off everywhere but where I want the red 4. Shoot a couple coats of red. 5. Allow to dry. 6. Pull tape and paper 7. Shoot clear a couple coats over the whole thing. 8. Allow to dry. 9. Cut/buff -or- wet sand, then cut/buff
Sound about right?
Awsome ❤
Will paint not stick to 400grit prep if its too cold? Just had tape peel of the clear in the engine bay in one spot were i had the grill was bolted down over the tape.
exelente travajo saludos
Single Stage is best left to solid colors. many people especially beginners have a tendency to spray it too dry and end up with a lot of orange peel, when I first started I use to spray a fair amount of single stage, in real hot weather I would spay a coat of retarder after the last coat and it would allow the paint to level out like glass, DuPont used to sell a reducer and special hardener that make the final coat look like it had clear over it and worked well with metallic s but that was a long time ago, I would recommend spraying urethane's over enamel's , a little more expensive but much better lasting results.
I want to paint my car single stage white. Mainly because I don't have the space or equipment to do it all at once. So I'll be panel painting it. With a single stage white I won't have to worry about color match as long as I start with enough paint and blend any separate containers together for a consistent color
Beginner here looking to repaint my frost white integra would you recommend to try to paint it championship white ?especially doing it outside at home ?
Happy New Year, looking forward to more videos in 2024 👍
Guy that painted tailgate triggers gun, top man.
Hi Bryan. I am getting ready to do 78 TA in arctic white. Do you think I can panel paint this car at different times and the paint match okay? It is a solid color. We'll use the same paint with the same pressure. Thank you
Good 💯 job I like it 👍
Reminds me of about 40 years ago I painted a car in acrylic lacquer. Then had to color sand it, then rub it out, and then wax it. NEVER AGAIN! I had some lacquer left over and a friend wanted his VW painted that color. So I painted it with the lacquer, but rather than sand/polish/wax; I shot some "clear" acrylic enamel over it. It looked just as good as the lacquer/sand/polish/wax. A year or so after, the engine in the VW caught fire and scorched the engine cover--bonnet---hood--?. The body shop that was going to repaint the engine cover, called the owner and asked her to find out what kind of paint I had used. They had tried everything they could think of to match my paint.
Pedro is an industrial painting robot. :)
Thx Brian! I have a white Fiero. Do you recommend this method (single stage) for my plastic/fiberglass car?
Nice 👍
Nice
Another great video. When would you use a gun with a light on it? I would think white would be a good candidate for the light.
Great video looks great if anyone can answer a question I have do you mix up all the paint at once noticed large mixing cup
Mix up however much single stage you will need, then after you sprayed that mix however much clear you need and spray it.
Nice job men
Hey there thanks for a great video. I am from South Africa. Single stage I assume is 2K? If you get runs in 2K, can you flat and polish? Thanks again