Tactics Ogre Reborn Review (Part 1, For the New Fans)
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- The New AI is really fun to play against, and seems to act differently for different teams. This is, in my opinion, hands down the finest SRPG in existence. Tactics Ogre Reborn knocks it out of the park way harder than I ever would have expected.
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Yes, Pincer Spears can go bananas:
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I wish my wife would talk about me like Potato talks about Tactics Ogre.
Your enthusiasm in this video is infectious lol. I was already super hyped for this game. I can't be more excited to play it
Hell, I'm still excited every time I look at my Switch.
Review embargo lifted!!! I am almost as hyped for this as the game itself, can not wait to hear CP's thoughts
Dope pfp
I'm going to get this game simply because of how fascinating it is to hear you gush about it. Your passion for this game is infectious!
This is the review I was most excited about! Glad to know you liked it
I love it.
So good to listen you exciting describe this one, thanks a lot - almost finished my one vision run but will definitely check this myself. Cheers.
As a tactics ogre fan it's great to hear someone gush over the game. I can't remember the last time I've had such fun in a trpg as of late.
Hopefully we'll get a remaster of The Knight of Lodis which is one of my favorite games of all time. I really just can't wait to see the future of the franchise seeing as how well received this is being
Ogrechads, it's an honor to play this remake with you all.
After discussing tactics ogre over the years and trying One Vision, we totally deserve this.
Cheers ogre fans!
Hell yeah!
It’s all ogre now
Great video and you can feel the enthusiasm and knowledge, so I subscribed so that I have now where to go for info for my playthrough on the Switch!
Awesome! I cannot WAIT to get my hands on this! Also can’t wait to see all the new videos you make for this game. Thanks for doing what you do!
Glad to do the do!
I think you sold me on the game, great video! It's nice to see a remake/remaster that actually delivers and has even hardcore fans of the original excited.
I've been waiting for a modern port of this game for almost a decade so I can finally play it, and here it is. Your excitement for it is infectious!
I now have this game in my possession for Switch and PS5. Now that I'm getting used to the new mechanics and of course getting used to how training works? I can safely say everything you say is absolutely spot on. The only two things I wish they did were allowing you to train on places outside towns and cities, also, they should allow you to choose which song you want playing in the background while you Duke it out. That and setting optimum equipment should be an option.
I'm so hyped! One more day. The reviews are glowing and for good reason it seems.
Absolutely, this is a masterpiece
You're a legend, thanks for the coverage
Glad to entertain, one more day!
So stoked to be getting this!!! Amazon should be delivering this to me tomorrow!
I was on the fence on this one (I got tired of playing a lot of my favorite RPG games 5 times from start to end)... but thanks to your enthusiastic review and how polished this rebirth has become I can't wait to play it again!
I wish I had HALF of your enthusiasm that you have for Tactics Ogre and apply that to life itself. Been a huge fan of anything Matsuno has ever had a hand in, and that is why this was the first game I've preordered in over 10 years. This looks phenomenal and deserves to sell left right and center... Imagine if this does well enough for a new entry.
Oh, my imagination is already going crazy on that, this elegance here was eye opening.
You answer questions I hardly see address in general by people. I appreciate all the information dump.
*reads thumbnail description*
Why yes, I concurr and give faith that Tactics Ogre Reborn is PEAK tactical RPG.
It has peaked even harder!
Your enthusiasm is absolutely off the charts here. Its great to see. I frickin loved this game and still plan to come back and play more. Its so good and finally I have found someone who seems as excited as I am about it. I feel this game should be getting more love. Glad its apparently sold quite well though and as an added bonus it runs like a dream on switch!
Absolutely does, and of course, there's a lot to love here!
bro!! ur love for tactics ogre is flooding out from the screen 😂
It is, I love this thing!
Awesome, they let you review a day early! Can't wait for this. Been a fan of onevision for a while and owned the PSP version
Thank you for this review! I want to know about the upgrades to the class / job system please.
Great review!!. Definetely will buy the game soon!
"Depressing chess simulator"
You sir have gained a new subscriber.
Glad to have you, and of course! You chess real good, you make choices, you read about how much of a monster you've been when that boss had 3 kids and an orphanage for puppies, and then repeat.
I am a big FFT fan and will be playing this for the first time starting tomorrow. I have played and loved the Ogre Battle games (March of the Black Queen and Person of Lordly Caliber), so I am stoked to play this.
The stoke is real!
I was already hyped, now I'm mega hyped!
hahahahahahaha, i love the enthusiasm frame one hahahahahahaha. God I can't wait to play this, thanks for the coverage these past few months I'm sticking around!!
I plan to keep covering this and doing challenge runs for years, honestly.
I cannot wait for this, I gotta do some trade-ins tomorrow to pay it off, but I'm pumped. Can't wait to hear this rendition of "Viking Spirits", considering how elegantly the rearrangements of iconic songs like "Air Land", "Three Kings", etc. I am 1000% sure "Viking Spirits" is going to hit me hard. The PSP version was stunning in its minimalistic approach, stripping it down to clarinet, strings, bass and percussion. If they kept that in tact for the rearrangement and made the bass more pronounced, they got a winner.
I am salivating at the thought of how good Faraway Heights will be.
@@CoffeePotato I bet that is going to be stunning. Just going to say that the soundtrack is all fully orchestrated by the Sydney Scoring Orchestra, so all the instrumentation you're hearing? That's all real.
I’m excited to play. Feels a little overwhelming but I heard about this game and never got to play it. I’m a fan of FF Tactics and any tactics game, so REEEEE!
No incap no tarot is the most thing i am looking for and damn 1k relics cap that is going to be some wonderful grinding
Man, this wets the appetite. I picked this up for ps5 the other day. Been watching a few vids like this to get in the mood while I finish ff16. I cant wait to get stuck in. I adore tactical rpg's, it's my fave genre. One thing I've learnt by watching these so far, is people have real love for Tactics ogre. I so cant wait to dive on in now.
Thanks, not only for this vid, but your passion for the game. We are still out there publishers. We still love these games.❤
Dang right we do! Just know this one does a lot of things unusually, but every system runs deeper. Like it's one of those where they reworked the original in so many clever ways that even many long timers thought stuff was gone, when it was just reworked somewhere else. You rarely see a remake that understood the original versions well enough to recontextualize what was already there over just doing something different entirely. I LOVE these kinds of remakes.
*whets
@@joearnold6881 ☺️👍
Great video and I love your enthusiasm!
I loved FFT and currently doing Azelstan's Pirate's Graveyard side quest.
This is my first from the series but man it is so fun!
Absolutely love the music too!
I was able to instantly tell that it's the same composer as FFT.
I really enjoy the rescue missions because of the unpredictability of the AI, and the heavy reward of recruiting a new character.
Clean strategy goes out the window and you just gotta charge in and save the sucker!
*Spoiler alert*
My favorite was the Cressida rescue mission.
Yasumi Matsuno is an evil man....
He does like the occasional trolly fight, but it's pretty consistent once you get used to it. Glad you're liking it!
I'm very excited to play this game. I got the PSP version and while there was a lot I liked there was also somethings I can't point out that made me stop playing halfway.
I'm also very happy to find out this Tactics Ogre community of fans of this franchise.
Your review is the only TO review i need
Glad to provide, sir!
I really wish steam would let me download this already. My internet is so bad and I just wanna play.
In year2022? Lmao
@@adidassler88 don't be an ass. Yes, many still don't have great internet, especially in rural areas. And games are large.
That’s why I go physical.
I just hope that I one day find something to love as much as this guy loves tactics ogre😂😭🥺
Starting at 5:45 in the video, there is a big block of opaque nothing in the middle of the screen. It goes away by 6:45 though.
Correct. I had to block out a word just in case.
A certain main character being a certain clan :0
@@CoffeePotato It makes it very difficult to watch the review, especially when you reference things that were under it.
I would love to see a class guide for beginners since this will be my first time playing tactics ogre only ever played ogre Battle 64.
This and Ragnarok are going to vampire my time away for the foreseeable future 😂
Gotta live that lightning and axe life.
As one of my if not my favorite game of all time your enthousiasm only multiply mine wich was already at top already .will play this gem very soon for how so many times!
If fact i love that game so much that I never touched final fantasy tactics outta respect for this one as being an heresy to be a copy of tactic ogre.
I wasn't sure how this would end up comparing to the PSP version, but this vid def cemented that I can feel secure going for Reborn for when I finally play TO (might be neat to circle around back to PSP one day though, they seem like very different games).
It definitely kept the important stuff, improved a lot of issues, and just generally massively improved it. It's not like absolutely nothing was removed, but overall it's a straight positive move, if that makes sense. They added way more than got left behind. I think we can live without Bewitch having a slow Loyalty drain function in favor of just straightforward Charm doing more. Losing Poison and Envenom to scaling Poison is just more logical, and makes it feel super threatening. Bind/Shackle/Stop basically did the same thing with minor tweaks, and over wrote each other, but now literally are just Stop. That kind of stuff. I know I still play the other versions, but when I want to sit down for the best experience, I turn on Reborn.
@@CoffeePotato That's great to hear, makes sense to trim the fat when you have a lot going on if you wanna avoid redundancy. I feel like before Reborn I was like "well PSP is the way to go, but OV seems like it fixes stuff, but maybe a mod isn't ideal for a first run" and now Reborn just made my choices easier haha
I haven’t played a tactics game since FF Tactics on PS1. I am very much looking forward to this.
Oh, you're in for a treat!
oh this is gonna be fun
dumb question, but is there an easy way to see what different statuses (spellstrike, sidestep, etc.) do when I’m in a shop and elsewhere? Using the help menu doesnt seem to provide any additional information
I can only afford to get one game right now. It was between God of War Ragnarok and Tactics Ogre. I chose Tactics Ogre
As someone who was a fan all the way back in the PS1 era, I am so incredibly happy we get all these new versions of TO. Although I cant but help and wonder if we will get a new installment after this. The only reason I didnt keep my original purchased version of TO for PS1 was because of a memory card bug, I was very young and didnt realize that the 'clear colored' memory cards wouldnt load data correctly (for some reson) and if you had the grey humdrum card it was fine. I have since acquired each version though and am a big fan of this series.
Oh shoot, I didn't know it had one on the PS1 version, only ever saw that on SNES.
@@CoffeePotato Yeah I went through like 10 copies of TO at the store back in the day because it just wouldn't load the data. Come to find out it was just the fancy Sony Clear memory cards that were f'ed. I found this out years later when I ran into the same issue after buying a used copy and trying my colored card again. Same issue, swapped to the grey one and it was fine. I got BOF3 instead of TO at the time and was happy with BOF3 as well, but sure wished I kept my original TO copy.
@@troywilliams2473 Weird, but makes sense
Great! I’m still playin the PS1 version on emulator. Will check the remake out once I’m done
cant' wait. the mailman better be on schedule tomorrow :P
I am impressed you were able to keep all these secret until the embargo was lifted lol.
Hey Coffee, does this add any new story or playable characters from the psp version? Like how ps1 to psp included different characters added in. I'm wondering if this will give people that I uncovered everything story wise from the psp version a new experience aside from mechanics and improved quality of life systems. ie. now Leonar is playable on certain routes? I know this is not a completely new tactics game (if only), but just wondering if this remake is purely revamped mechanics asa posed to new story/character divergence. Thanks for these videos none the less.
The time has come! the Hype is real!
Good work
How fast would you say can you get through battles on average with the speed boost? And how about time to complete one run through the game if you had to guess?
Chapter 1 took about 1.5 hours in the original. I would assume you could get through it in maybe 40 minutes.
I'm excited to hear that all the early reviews are worshipping this remake. Being a fan of the original, I'm hype!
Also a quick question: In your opinion how many leagues is this game above Final Fantasy Tactics/Advance Wars 1 and 2 on the GBA?. Those are the only SRPG that I played and I would like to know how this one compares to them.
Very deep gamelay, flexible customization, tons of postgame content and replay value!
LFG!!! This was the first game that I logged 200+ hours on, and it was on PSP 😂.
I bought the digital to start at midnight and my steelbook is coming from UK lol. I'll buy a third on PS5 if they will remake Vagrant Story or a spiritual successor. So pumped
Another 4 rounds of Palace of the Dead? Heck Yeah!
Only 4? Dude, PoTD is my address, that's where I live lol
Well, not really, but my good friend Mr. N. certainly lives there with a few of his mates. Quite a good company. I be paying them multiple, way over 4, visits for sure😂
I actually drop FFT after playing this game on my PSP, never regret it..... too much fun, and you can make super soldier too if you like grinding ^^
Or just build well.
Hey buddy! Nice job! Still not watched part 2 yet, but do you know if they kept the chaos frame system? Thinking about recruit cressida already hahahahaha sorry for my bad english!
They did, but with no random Galgistani tanking your CF in grind fights, it should be all down to intentional choices.
time for a tier list for this version? :)
Got this back on the ps1. Play this to death. Even finish the end game death dungeon. A massive time sink for sure. One surprise I remember is how to make angel from a dying unit or undead.
It's quite the thing, and way the hell smoother this time around. You might have an easier time just recruiting Angels with a priest in the end game. The process of making one is presumably the complex method used by the PSP version (Kill unit, bring back as undead, strip away the undead bits with a Book of the Dead, bring skelly to heaven, and give him a Vagrant Story reference.).
@@CoffeePotato Don't forget had to be female & lawful.
I think they also have to have warrior class or training. It happens literally after they die. They automatically resurrect into an Angel. Crazy mechanics.
For the last 20 years FFT has been in my top 5 favorite video games. I've only played TOR for 3 hours and it's already taking over FFT
Glad to hear it, they're all related!
@@CoffeePotatochecked your content. I will sub good Sir!
@@nathankettle357 Thank You for the support!
Hi, I would like to know more about the end game content, if there is any?
Yes, there is post-game content known as CODA (the DLC from the PSP version) that add several hours to the playtime.
I only have one real question is the difficulty like the PS1 version? And have you tried the potd yet? IS IT HARD?!
Oh...those No Incap No Chariot titles are going to be hard. The difficulty is super legit.
I can't wait to get this on Switch tomorrow. I played FFT to death on ps1. Never got the chance to get this one
You're in for a fantastic time, then! Just know that it's more than a few routes. Everything can adapt, change, have variations, etc.
Tomorrow's gonna be a fun evening
I preordered this awhile ago. Forgot about it. Package showed up today. After watching this video I AM FIRED UP to play this. Love tactical games like Shining Force and Fire Emblem, but I missed Tactics Ogre the first time around.
What do the constantly changing units in the upper right corner mean?
It is his overlay he puts on his videos.
Is LV40 the maximum for the whole game (or: What is the level cap for characters/union)? Thanks for the review!
Seems to be 50 for units, 40 for skills. It's balanced to max around end game this time, with post game and NG+ (World) getting new gear mechanics.
@@CoffeePotato Thank you!
Another FYI: Several of the dev team behind this strategic RPG (of the original, the PSP remake, and this remaster) have worked on great games like Final Fantasy Tactics, FF XII, FFXIV and even on the upcoming FFXVI so quality is asured!
I'm really curious what's being blurred in the video.
Just noticed it's more than intended to blur.
Feel like I’m on the right channel for this question … I’ve not played any TO, ever, so wondering if the post game is worth playing? I usually find myself, in FFT, etc., restarting from scratch quite a bit, before finishing the main story, because I’m not invested in just continuing “random” battles. So, are there still stories, or just more quests?
Thanks for your great enthusiasm for this. I know I’ll be up at midnight tonight, trying to start my first playthrough!
There are 4 post game stories to go through, called Coda 1-4. In addition you can play through the other two routes through the game.
yes, there's a lot of post game content, dungeon, NG+, also you can use world to recruit the unit u missed because you took different path
Oh don't worry, it ain't just random battles.
Also, going back in time can also be considered post game content, since you unlock it only after getting through 1 route, any route.
Oh, absolutely. Only half of the post game is canon, but it goes wild with fun maps, new mechanics, and narrative. It was hard to get into in the original versions, but it's a smooth transition now. It feels fantastic to jump into, bringing forward the fun challenges, while smoothing out the weird level bumps from before.
Absolutely loving this game! I played the PS1 version way back in the day, but haven't touched the game since, so getting this new remake is amazing.
And yes, for the love of god Square Enix, we now need VAGRANT STORY!!
Here's hoping! Looks like the next one is FF9, but someday, hopefully!
Can it be tomorrow when I get off work already please, I want to play this so bad now
Paradigm Shift 800 times until time travel.
This is problably explained further along the line but I heard random battles got removed , is this true? How do you recruit people if so?
Random map battles (not to be confused with story or dungeon battles) are replaced with "military excercises".
Unlike training in original, you face actual enemy formations controlled by AI.
As for recruitment, same as in PSP. Recruit in battle or at the shops in case of humans.
I am so excited. I hope I can download at midnight
Soon!
If you preordered on PS5 at least, it downloaded and preinstalled yesterday.
@@rct2fanatic I've chosen to get it for switch so I can play it portable!
@@luke4010 It should be preloaded then and just have to check tomorrow to make sure it's playable since PS and Switch both preload preorders. I'm assuming you preordered.
I wanna know what the dragon things is that he's trying to do with all those dragons
Regarding fewer skill slots. Sometimes giving fewer slots can lead to more depth. Case in point, Disgaea. Which lets a unit do pretty much everything at the same time, yet build making in those games is really hollow. Depth needs options, but they also need dilemmas. In the case of this game, do I want a 2 hander to deal more damage? Do I want 2 weapons for more passives and finishers. Everything covered in this game looks to have been properly thought out. Which is really nice. There is also the fact that there is indivdiual levelling now. You can can still have a "strengthened" Archer by levelling as a berserker a bunch of times. Most of those passives are now completely unnecessary in the new skill system and would be nice if the detractors could acknowledge this.
However, the spoilers in this review for Fire Emblem was not ideal. Given that that game is extremely likely to have a remake in development, according to a very reliable leak, it is getting the Echoes Treatment.
Dear Coffee , thank for this video, I LOVE the PSP version and I will play it anyway even when I will start tomorrow this incredible remaster, this is my favourite game of all time.
I need to ask you something strange and I hope I can explain you well what I mean:
We know that we have a limited stock of items per battle: 4 in total oder each unit.
What I ask to myself and to you is: when we have that " a lot of undead situation" plus some normal enemies like octopus or dragons or whatever ( but I can say in general too, I mean other situations that require many items) how we can handle that situation?
I mean, on LUCT I used to have many MP items, or HP items, revival items ( I used it many times) and most important, scrolls, because not every unit has exorcism and cost a lot.
I know that the level cap is up to...99? So we will have a lot more MP, but to have a fully " bar " we need many items ( I think the rarest MP items is 150 MP at once) many potions, many scrolls or even if we need to take the buff from tarot cards ( teleport, the ability to go through water ecc) , so....with only 4 slots...how we can manage this thing?
Is my biggest doubt by far..
Uhm , what do you think about that :)?
2:01 What job class is Rikka? I dont recall ever seeing that portrait b4.
NVM, I found out a few minutes later...
I’m a nerd and took tomorrow and Monday and Tuesday off so I can have some time to play this game.
Told my wife I was taking Friday off for this, and her reaction: “For a game?”.
To say nothing of my having taken a day off before for just a new Pokémon release.
I don’t think I could explain how distracted I would be at work, for this game in particular. Or even explain how much this is not “just a game”. 😊
@@Scuderia-hy4zu Hehehehe totally empathize.
Same here!!!! Well, I have Friday and Saturday asked off with vacation pay. So stoked!
Nice.
Is it true that they completely remove the random battles?
Yes, that is true. So hyped!
They removed some until post game.
Never played it, but I was interested in getting the game since it influenced a Final Fantasy spin-off which I didn't played either but I like the concept itself.
There's a lot more to it than that. I'd highly recommend taking a peek at the currently ongoing Resonant Arc podcast for watching folks realize in real time how deep it goes.
I have game preloaded and excited to try it, so I hope you won't mind if I skip watching this review just to not spoil myself further. Just leaving comment to boost video engagement.
The only possible spoiler is blotted out (poorly, but that YT blur system is janky)
@@CoffeePotato Game mechanics are spoilers too, haha. I wanna explore what game has to offer mostly blindly.
Still my favorite review
Thanks, man! Honestly, while some details may be off after we dug through the mechanics more, I stand by it, this remake really floats my boat.
are you going to be doing a lets play of reborn?
Warren Report channel is doing one LP! Also Yunalescka Games streamer.
Yes yes yes🙏
How is the performance on the switch?
i really wish the level cap was higher than 50
What's with the blurry box on the screen?
Should be fixed now. I was trying to avoid showing a class I showed for a second.
I can only get ps4 or Switch version for now. Which is better?
Well both versions run at 60 fps, so it depends whether you want to play this on the go or not!
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 thanks
@@TacticsOgre35 You are welcome!
RIP to the cyclops stuck with the name "Purple People Eater" for the rest of its life
Hey. At least he gets hired for a rock band in the end.
Game arrived a Day early. See you on the other side in 100+ hours
When do you unlock auto battle
AI unlocks after Golborza, like before.
Thank you
Just so I know, are those giant boxes blocking my sight are you trying to censor spoilers asked by SE or somthing?
He's trying to censor a very major plot spoiler.
@@des-trina thats what i thought, but the games been out for literally decades, what could there possibly be that isnt known at this point? they literally sad no story was changed.
I was trying to block one scene in particular, but YT bugged out, or I used it wrong. Trying to fix it.
@@CoffeePotato ok gotcha
Maaaaaan, I hope Tactics Ogre Reborn unlocks at midnight on Switch. I'm gonna be so bored waiting! Lol