In this vid I show a recent pour of a lite deck roof and discuss advantages of the method as well as comparing and contrasting methods and brands available!
Very cool. I want to build an ICF single story, full basement with hydronic in floor heat throughout. I'm think of doing a single slope roof, low side facing south then installing solar on the roof for off grid power and mounting as cheap as possible.
Just found your channel and started binge watching. Lots of great info, thanks for sharing. I just did some floors like this very similar to lite deck. I used Quad-Deck, it too has embedded joists in the foam. It sure saves a ton of time Installing!
Love your channel! Do you find framing the support structure first and laying the roof on that or do you do roof then install support structure under. I’m asking obviously because you build the sections on the ground then stand them up but that leading edge would be to tall so you would have to shim. Just wondering what way is the quickest? I’m assuming getting the support structure up first? With no shimming? Or do you take off 1/2” and slip 1/2” plywood or something under everything? Cheers Seb
Love this! Can you please show the overhang detail when you’re building it? I am planning on a vacation home build (owner contractor) in the north east and will go the route of ICF for walls and floors. I wish you were up in VT!
Check out the RUclips video on calcium carbonate. Bacteria precipitate calcium carbonate will seal cracks in concrete. Incredible finding this while looking at various videos. I like your detailed explanations.
Very educational! Thank you so much for such useful information! Do you have any updates on this project in terms of soffits and TPO application? What is the slope of the concrete roof? I am in permitting phase on the house in South Florida (Fox Blocks walls + InsulDeck flat roof) and I am thinking of 1/4 inch per foot slope. Do you think this is enough? Another thing the InsulDeck rep suggested using the Vulkem 350 to coat the concrete roof for the waterproofing.
I'm also in South Florida and I'm also considering Fox Blocks walls + InsulDeck flat roof). Did you go with this for permitting? How's your build coming along and are you happy with your decision so far? Waterproofing is definitely a concern for me since cement will crack and create micro leaks. I was thinking of putting a metal roof on top for increase leak protection, but I'm not sure.
Quad Deck has a marketing with Plastbau, the inventor/ manufacturer of the forms. You might want to price bundling the form package in the nearest city and having a helicopter service drop them at your build site. 😉
Thanks for the video. Looks great. Have you thought about an elastomeric traffic deck coating on the roof? Easy to inspect and maintain since it's not hidden under pavers.
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Residential can range from $8 to $30 per SF. Depending on size of course. One balcony is more expensive per SF than a 1,000 SF terrace.
I'm wondering about doing a slightly sloped - basically flat icf roof in New Hampshire where we get annual temperature swings from -30 to 100+.with 6 to 8 feet of annual snowfall. How do you control cracking with that amount of expansion and contraction? I see you don't saw any control joints. Is it even possible or just cost prohibitive in this climate as I've never seen one around here.
I live in the GulfCoast region prone to hurricanes, and torrential rain downpours throughout the year. This type of structure makes sense, but not sure I could get the wife to buy off on the look of a sloped concrete roof. Could a slopped ICF roof be finished out with a metal roofing on top? Without creating a thousand concrete penetrations with the potential of a leak at each penetration? How would the attachments to the concrete be made?
Have you watched Lake Lot Build series? He did a nice job on his Lake of the Ozarks home. Do you have any more training coming up in December or next year? You do great work, I really want to get into building these.
It’s actually not lake of the Ozarks, it’s table rock and I deal with that builder on a regular basis! Another pool training in Jan or Feb, then next summer a few trainings on pools/walls/lite deck! Happy to help facilitate you getting into this, it’s really the future!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 we might be thinking of a different RUclips series. This guy is the home owner who built his own with his wife, but maybe not. He did standing seem metal siding and lookout on his litedeck roof.
I like to use tpo, there’s different underlayment if you are using pavers and bison pedestals but too is a fairly cheap super durable solution! They do promote laying a membrane over the beams before the slab portion is poured to leave the concrete exposed but it lessens the span by quite a bit and there’s no way to repair if there’s an issue…. Tpo on top leaves the structural superiority in tact and is easy to fix if/when there’s a problem!
Great video as usual. Quick question, what's the chances of doing some kind of Trusses across or in combination with the litedeck? I'm mot a huge fan of the flat deck modern look. I like the idea of total encapsulation, just want a traditional look above it. Especially if I'm thinking HRV/ERV, HVAC, duct work, plumbing, and so on in a conditioned attic space(upstairs mechanical room).
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 do you happen to have links to those who have done it, or would you be interested in giving a consultation for one here in Texas. Will Google what I can.
@@vicsmark007 I have one coming up in another month . It will be 7/12 pitch for main roof, with a gable dormer and 3/12 shed dormer ruclips.net/video/OwW0iqmm3J8/видео.html
2x4 flat truesses, maybe a little slope on the upper side for roof slope. Rigid foam insulation and the trusses have bays for trades. I can't understand why these are used instead for a steel deck or just forming under the slab. The cost to just form it when you have to support these anyway. I priced these 15 years ago and I could do better for way less. Now that there are European style forms for rent nationwide the cost is WAY less to form than to us a product like this.
Thank you! Would you pour these in interior floors too? If it’s not too difficult to add plumbing, electrical, and hvac up through the forms why go with a truss and thick advantech subfloor? Since ICF floor decking needs bracing, why not use commercial steel decking? Doesn’t seem like you need the bracing with that route right?
Yes I have a video with a huge house that’s all lite deck floors! Commercial steel then requires steel structure to hold it up because it’s effectively just a slab, this form creates a 3 dimensional slab and beam decking that’s monolithic, very strong!
Quad Deck / Insul Deck are cut to length at the manufacturing plants. I have used it when pouring safe room ceilings and as a floor for the upstairs of a two story home. Haven’t tried it on a pitched roof yet but I want to.
What about putting a metal roof on top? Wouldn't that be a solution to the water leakage issue? What's your experience with that? Love your channel, new sub! I'm recommending you to a few buddies .
When you revisit this can you please go into detail on any options available when in the design faze. I have watched the progress of quite a few owner/builders here on YT but most use standard truss roofs. So far I’ve only seen 1 complete their Litedeck install and they didn’t go into any detail. The other 1 is still in progress and hasn’t started on the roof yet. Thx
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Thx! We hope to start planning phase 1 of our home sometime next year and I definitely want a fully ICF home given we will be at the tail end of tornado alley in Indiana and will be sure to send you a copy of our rough plans to get a block estimate.
As ICF floors/roofs become more mainstream, which would include multistory projects, where is your preference for the cold joint? Also how big would you be willing to go on a monopour?
Right at the top of the wall bellow the floor, j know guys who purposely don’t fill the last few inches of that wall to make the cold joint down in the block and I don’t hate the idea!
Do you have any recommendations on drainage and waterproofing of a flat ICF roof? I'm in the design phase of my ICF house w/ICF roof with my architect and we are trying to figure out how to drain and waterproof it. He wants to use tapered insulation w/TPO on top. I am wondering if it can be screeded to the correct slope to drains and with Xypex added + on top to waterproof. Thoughts?
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Ok sounds good. Its going to be a "flat" roof with parapet wall, would you still tilt the lite deck itself? Or screed the required slope to the drains?
Are you ever concerned about the weight of the roof or floor inside a home? Looks extremely heavy but I love the idea of having a flat roof that is like ICF.
No, the way it’s designed it can span further with less deflection than wood, and concrete has great compressive strength so the walls holding it up are bulletproof
I’m planning on building my next house and I want all 6 sides to be ICF. That means the floor and roof as well as the traditional side walls. My vision is to have the attic be sealed and part of the air envelope of the house. But I want a traditional roof with a peak (and solar panels on it) instead of a flat roof like this is with a metal roof on top of the ICF roof. Is that something that is feasible today?
The ones I’ve seen hipped and gabled appear to be about a 5 or 6/12…. I suppose with the right crew and proper lifts you could do just about any pitch, but 5-6 seems most reasonable
Im designing a 60'x60' garagement. 15' tall front walls and 10ft rear walls to create a continuous slope for solar and rain collection. Could I span that with an ICF Roof? Otherwise I could make the central wall ICF as well that runs all the way through the house at 30ft or maybe add support pillars
Its not to expensive to rent shoring, a couple aluminum I beams and some shoring posts would have been less labor intensive and quicker to install for the false work. Love the content btw.
For small projects like this we’ve always had lumber handy and my boys are very fast framers…. We actually have two truckloads of legit bracing coming for the Coulter lite deck project!
Any ball park price per sqft for a roof? I can never get a straight answer. I understand it varies place to place. If it helps I am in Kansas. Easy to get to, out in the open. I would like to have an all concrete house. I am just not sure if I can afford it.
The material itself can range from $5-7 depending on depth…. Shipping is a wildcard depending on where, and labor for setting is usually 5-10, again it varies based on skill gap in parts of the country that will allow for gouging when labor is in short supply, finishing labor $3-5 depending on difficulty of placing concrete and equipment….
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 yes. I am planning on complete concrete. Do the exterior walls need to be thicker? Do you have an architect that is knowledgeable in these structures?
Don't recall the technical limitations of EcoFinish... how would that perform on an exposed low-slope ICF deck compared with other methods of keeping water out? UV loads are pretty extreme in NM, so I'm concerned about longevity & the need for frequent reapplication of roll-on. Kinda don't want to pay for a roof over my other roof (metal or Bison), lol, & using the sqft as a deck just seems obviously the way to go.
Eco being engineered for pools makes it a somewhat expensive process for a roof, I love tpo, easy to apply, around $70/sq material cost and simple to service or replace…. And it’s simply the cya for an already great…. I was in China right at the start of covid, they had multiple brands of bison-like pedestals for a very reasonable price, which I’m hoping to take advantage of on our deck in nm!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 ...not sure what the Chinese version of a Bison is, but if anything close to a panda my wife will approve! Figured EcoFinish might be too costly -bummer
Lite deck can be parked on in most cases including my New Mexico build, as long as it’s engineered it should be totally fine! I don’t do HI at the moment but one of my trainees is moving to the big island if he hasn’t already, if he could put a crew together I could easily be persuaded to come consult lol
Because of the great weather, Los Angeles building code lets you get away with building leaky wood-framed houses with R13 walls and R30 ceilings. None of the builders I know have even heard of ICF. However, I want to build ICF on my next two new construction projects to showcase how we should be building future houses in Los Angeles. I want to be able to pass a blower door test and get to LEED Certification or Passive House numbers. My design style will be Palm Springs mid-century modern mixed with a little Eichler flair. Do you work in Los Angeles or know any ICF professionals who would?
I trained a guy from LA back in March, he’s a professional photographer who’s house burned in a recent fire and he’s building the entire thing epically all icf! I’m sure his crew will be incredibly well versed in all things icf by the time they are done with his project! I’m happy to share his contact, email be at aaron.cuttingedgehomes@gmail.com
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 I get I’m asking for a WAG. But 125k a 30x30 detached garage is a bit steep. Don’t get me wrong, I admire the obvious quality and am envious of your build but I cant justify that kind of money for a detached garage.
@cuttingedgehomes9251 let's separate this into 3 tiers. Teir 1 is possible and need professional assistance to implement it correctly. Teir 2 possible, but major considerations may make other designs more appealing. Teir 3 Don't do it
I’m not positive about quad, but I’m in love with the modular nature of build deck and amdeck, shipping things that fit on a pallet save tons of logistical dollars for not having oversized pallets!
Respectfully, I would like to say Light Deck looks like a great product. The cost of anything today is grossly overpriced and the fact that the Banks are going to fail within a year from now, I would never attempt to use this product. 99% can not afford it.
TPO is a common roofing membrane. It is competing with EPDM roofing membrane because it is cheaper but it will last maybe twenty years vs. EPDM which will last at least 50 years. Both EPDM & TPO can get punctured but TPO is a little stronger (it has a built-in supporting mesh). The EPDM is pure rubber and stays fixable in Sun. People also use EPDM in their fish pond. RV roofs used to be covered by EPDM and now switching to TPO because it is cheaper.
It’s concrete…. The foam is encased in concrete…. If you watched you’d know that, think it’s more resilient to “forst” fire than any other roof system I’m Aware of…
Used car lot…. Geeze man make fun of a guy using his god given adhd as a force for good in the world…. You are why more people aren’t putting themselves out there!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 I don't have a following and I don't care to. Your insecurity comes out in every rant in your videos, seeking validation. You even responding to me with a child's perception of a comeback, only hammers my point further. Get to the point and get over yourself in the future, please, and thanks.
"This is going to house a couple cool cars" Not showing or telling what those "cool" cars are. Only throwing a dingy stock photo. That seems poor if you ask me, coming from someone with 10k plus subs.
Can you put a Concrete Wall ledge about 3 feet tall around the perimeter so people can be up there. Also why not just put some kind of plastic then put 3 inchs of dirt and then grass that doesn't grow. Then you have the best Roof Top then.
You CAN do all of those things if it makes sense in the buildings mission…. This buildings mission is to be a fortress for some very fancy cars…. So no lol;)
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 You don't have to be rude about it. A Grass roof top is very eco friendly much better than those crappy plastic tiles you were thinking about, which would get all kinds of junk under them anyway you dumbass. lol; )
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Currently live in KC. Next house will be somewhere in SW MO. Intend to build a full ICF house. Love the videos. Keep em coming.
Mr. King, thank you very much for all your time.
You are welcome!
Very cool.
I want to build an ICF single story, full basement with hydronic in floor heat throughout.
I'm think of doing a single slope roof, low side facing south then installing solar on the roof for off grid power and mounting as cheap as possible.
That’s the way!
Awesome! I am brand new to your channel and was pretty much unaware of ICF. ICF…just wow! My third and next house is gonna be ICF!
Thanks for the follow, I’ll keep up the content
Just found your channel and started binge watching. Lots of great info, thanks for sharing. I just did some floors like this very similar to lite deck. I used Quad-Deck, it too has embedded joists in the foam. It sure saves a ton of time Installing!
Yes, I came to this way after icf walls but I use them whenever I can now!
@Cutting Edge Homes ! Can you use Helix with these lite deck systems? Also, how do you create overhangs?
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 How does the cost compared to other concrete options? We are looking at clear span polished concrete for our first floor
Love your channel!
Do you find framing the support structure first and laying the roof on that or do you do roof then install support structure under. I’m asking obviously because you build the sections on the ground then stand them up but that leading edge would be to tall so you would have to shim. Just wondering what way is the quickest? I’m assuming getting the support structure up first? With no shimming? Or do you take off 1/2” and slip 1/2” plywood or something under everything?
Cheers
Seb
Love this! Can you please show the overhang detail when you’re building it? I am planning on a vacation home build (owner contractor) in the north east and will go the route of ICF for walls and floors.
I wish you were up in VT!
Sure!
Check out the RUclips video on calcium carbonate. Bacteria precipitate calcium carbonate will seal cracks in concrete. Incredible finding this while looking at various videos. I like your detailed explanations.
Such good product! Would you ever do a living grass roof on one of those puppies? Ultimate deck :D
Very educational! Thank you so much for such useful information! Do you have any updates on this project in terms of soffits and TPO application? What is the slope of the concrete roof? I am in permitting phase on the house in South Florida (Fox Blocks walls + InsulDeck flat roof) and I am thinking of 1/4 inch per foot slope. Do you think this is enough? Another thing the InsulDeck rep suggested using the Vulkem 350 to coat the concrete roof for the waterproofing.
I'm also in South Florida and I'm also considering Fox Blocks walls + InsulDeck flat roof). Did you go with this for permitting? How's your build coming along and are you happy with your decision so far? Waterproofing is definitely a concern for me since cement will crack and create micro leaks. I was thinking of putting a metal roof on top for increase leak protection, but I'm not sure.
Quad Deck has a marketing with Plastbau, the inventor/ manufacturer of the forms. You might want to price bundling the form package in the nearest city and having a helicopter service drop them at your build site. 😉
We love our disaster restiant home
Where’d you build?
Avon Park fl
What does restiant mean?
@@JonnieShipbaugh-dc9wkIt's a term used to cover one's ass, because never say never.
Thanks for the video. Looks great. Have you thought about an elastomeric traffic deck coating on the roof? Easy to inspect and maintain since it's not hidden under pavers.
I haven’t, what’s the price/foot?
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Residential can range from $8 to $30 per SF. Depending on size of course. One balcony is more expensive per SF than a 1,000 SF terrace.
I'm wondering about doing a slightly sloped - basically flat icf roof in New Hampshire where we get annual temperature swings from -30 to 100+.with 6 to 8 feet of annual snowfall. How do you control cracking with that amount of expansion and contraction? I see you don't saw any control joints. Is it even possible or just cost prohibitive in this climate as I've never seen one around here.
I live in the GulfCoast region prone to hurricanes, and torrential rain downpours throughout the year. This type of structure makes sense, but not sure I could get the wife to buy off on the look of a sloped concrete roof. Could a slopped ICF roof be finished out with a metal roofing on top? Without creating a thousand concrete penetrations with the potential of a leak at each penetration? How would the attachments to the concrete be made?
Great videos. Just wondering if you have looked into Super Floor for potential roofing system or other steel truss systems?
Yes
Have you watched Lake Lot Build series? He did a nice job on his Lake of the Ozarks home. Do you have any more training coming up in December or next year?
You do great work, I really want to get into building these.
It’s actually not lake of the Ozarks, it’s table rock and I deal with that builder on a regular basis! Another pool training in Jan or Feb, then next summer a few trainings on pools/walls/lite deck! Happy to help facilitate you getting into this, it’s really the future!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 we might be thinking of a different RUclips series. This guy is the home owner who built his own with his wife, but maybe not. He did standing seem metal siding and lookout on his litedeck roof.
i want to make a nudura house from footing to the roof. can i use this on every flooring and last story ceiling?
Hello, Great videos... What product do you use to waterproof a low sloped concrete roof????
I like to use tpo, there’s different underlayment if you are using pavers and bison pedestals but too is a fairly cheap super durable solution! They do promote laying a membrane over the beams before the slab portion is poured to leave the concrete exposed but it lessens the span by quite a bit and there’s no way to repair if there’s an issue…. Tpo on top leaves the structural superiority in tact and is easy to fix if/when there’s a problem!
Great video as usual. Quick question, what's the chances of doing some kind of Trusses across or in combination with the litedeck? I'm mot a huge fan of the flat deck modern look. I like the idea of total encapsulation, just want a traditional look above it. Especially if I'm thinking HRV/ERV, HVAC, duct work, plumbing, and so on in a conditioned attic space(upstairs mechanical room).
I haven’t done one yet but there are guys pouring hipped and gabled roofs like this!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 do you happen to have links to those who have done it, or would you be interested in giving a consultation for one here in Texas. Will Google what I can.
@@vicsmark007 I have one coming up in another month . It will be 7/12 pitch for main roof, with a gable dormer and 3/12 shed dormer ruclips.net/video/OwW0iqmm3J8/видео.html
@@vicsmark007 ruclips.net/video/EkjfZiq99WY/видео.html
2x4 flat truesses, maybe a little slope on the upper side for roof slope. Rigid foam insulation and the trusses have bays for trades. I can't understand why these are used instead for a steel deck or just forming under the slab. The cost to just form it when you have to support these anyway.
I priced these 15 years ago and I could do better for way less.
Now that there are European style forms for rent nationwide the cost is WAY less to form than to us a product like this.
Thank you!
Would you pour these in interior floors too? If it’s not too difficult to add plumbing, electrical, and hvac up through the forms why go with a truss and thick advantech subfloor?
Since ICF floor decking needs bracing, why not use commercial steel decking? Doesn’t seem like you need the bracing with that route right?
Yes I have a video with a huge house that’s all lite deck floors! Commercial steel then requires steel structure to hold it up because it’s effectively just a slab, this form creates a 3 dimensional slab and beam decking that’s monolithic, very strong!
Quad Deck / Insul Deck are cut to length at the manufacturing plants. I have used it when pouring safe room ceilings and as a floor for the upstairs of a two story home. Haven’t tried it on a pitched roof yet but I want to.
What about putting a metal roof on top? Wouldn't that be a solution to the water leakage issue? What's your experience with that? Love your channel, new sub! I'm recommending you to a few buddies .
Thanks for the sub! Answered the rest in comment above:) cheers
When you revisit this can you please go into detail on any options available when in the design faze. I have watched the progress of quite a few owner/builders here on YT but most use standard truss roofs. So far I’ve only seen 1 complete their Litedeck install and they didn’t go into any detail. The other 1 is still in progress and hasn’t started on the roof yet. Thx
We will!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Thx! We hope to start planning phase 1 of our home sometime next year and I definitely want a fully ICF home given we will be at the tail end of tornado alley in Indiana and will be sure to send you a copy of our rough plans to get a block estimate.
As ICF floors/roofs become more mainstream, which would include multistory projects, where is your preference for the cold joint? Also how big would you be willing to go on a monopour?
Right at the top of the wall bellow the floor, j know guys who purposely don’t fill the last few inches of that wall to make the cold joint down in the block and I don’t hate the idea!
What do you mean how big would I mono? How tall or how many yards?
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 tall
Can you add monopour crenellations to the outside as you are pouring the litedeck?
Yes, but our lite deck was delivered then the homeowner expanded the room to the limit of the span so we need to build out now!
Will you take ICF home project in California - San Francisco North Bay? not too many ICF contractors out here.
Like your roof ideas. I don’t see any downsides to xypex.
agreed
Do you have any recommendations on drainage and waterproofing of a flat ICF roof? I'm in the design phase of my ICF house w/ICF roof with my architect and we are trying to figure out how to drain and waterproof it. He wants to use tapered insulation w/TPO on top. I am wondering if it can be screeded to the correct slope to drains and with Xypex added + on top to waterproof. Thoughts?
Lay the lite deck on the slope then tpo it, cheapest way, tpo is cheap insurance, xypex is great but I wouldn’t bet my possessions on it alone!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Ok sounds good. Its going to be a "flat" roof with parapet wall, would you still tilt the lite deck itself? Or screed the required slope to the drains?
Are you ever concerned about the weight of the roof or floor inside a home? Looks extremely heavy but I love the idea of having a flat roof that is like ICF.
No, the way it’s designed it can span further with less deflection than wood, and concrete has great compressive strength so the walls holding it up are bulletproof
That’s what I was thinking. I’m sure theirs tons of engineering going into not having a roof collapse but it’s just seems super heavy.
I’m planning on building my next house and I want all 6 sides to be ICF. That means the floor and roof as well as the traditional side walls. My vision is to have the attic be sealed and part of the air envelope of the house. But I want a traditional roof with a peak (and solar panels on it) instead of a flat roof like this is with a metal roof on top of the ICF roof. Is that something that is feasible today?
They do hip and gable roofs, it’s quite a bit more expensive
Angel Fire, NM? Such a beautiful area but I haven't been there since the fire
Didn’t affect af much, not far east and north it’s pretty different
What kinda roof pitch is possible with icf if you wanted a more traditional roof.
The ones I’ve seen hipped and gabled appear to be about a 5 or 6/12…. I suppose with the right crew and proper lifts you could do just about any pitch, but 5-6 seems most reasonable
Im designing a 60'x60' garagement. 15' tall front walls and 10ft rear walls to create a continuous slope for solar and rain collection. Could I span that with an ICF Roof? Otherwise I could make the central wall ICF as well that runs all the way through the house at 30ft or maybe add support pillars
Yes if u split the span I’m confident they could span 30’ easily
Its not to expensive to rent shoring, a couple aluminum I beams and some shoring posts would have been less labor intensive and quicker to install for the false work. Love the content btw.
For small projects like this we’ve always had lumber handy and my boys are very fast framers…. We actually have two truckloads of legit bracing coming for the Coulter lite deck project!
Any ball park price per sqft for a roof? I can never get a straight answer. I understand it varies place to place. If it helps I am in Kansas. Easy to get to, out in the open. I would like to have an all concrete house. I am just not sure if I can afford it.
The material itself can range from $5-7 depending on depth…. Shipping is a wildcard depending on where, and labor for setting is usually 5-10, again it varies based on skill gap in parts of the country that will allow for gouging when labor is in short supply, finishing labor $3-5 depending on difficulty of placing concrete and equipment….
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Thank you. Do you do any work in South East Kansas?
Is it possible to do lite deck for second floor and lite deck for roof? or is that too much weight?
That’s what I’m doing, that’s what it’s made for assuming your walls are concrete too
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 yes. I am planning on complete concrete. Do the exterior walls need to be thicker? Do you have an architect that is knowledgeable in these structures?
Can you give me a rough width of the forms? Trying to come up with an idea for how much i can fit on a truck.
24”
Do you have any crews in DFW? Looking to build in the next few years.
We will by then
Don't recall the technical limitations of EcoFinish... how would that perform on an exposed low-slope ICF deck compared with other methods of keeping water out?
UV loads are pretty extreme in NM, so I'm concerned about longevity & the need for frequent reapplication of roll-on. Kinda don't want to pay for a roof over my other roof (metal or Bison), lol, & using the sqft as a deck just seems obviously the way to go.
Eco being engineered for pools makes it a somewhat expensive process for a roof, I love tpo, easy to apply, around $70/sq material cost and simple to service or replace…. And it’s simply the cya for an already great…. I was in China right at the start of covid, they had multiple brands of bison-like pedestals for a very reasonable price, which I’m hoping to take advantage of on our deck in nm!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 ...not sure what the Chinese version of a Bison is, but if anything close to a panda my wife will approve!
Figured EcoFinish might be too costly -bummer
Anyone know about the general cost of an ICF roof for a 2,500 square foot single story house ?
Varies greatly depending on roof design but probably 20-25 per foot minimum
What is the steepest roof you can pour?
Depends on the Drew’s talent, no limit…. If it’s steep and tall you may need some gift equipment for finishers to safely access it all
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 could you do 45 degrees?
ThermaSteel F-panel is another option
Roughly how much would a Icf garage like that cost DIY? Ball park figure for that project?
40ish, depending on a lot of variables
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Thanks
I want to build my home gym on my flat roof icf home. Do you guys build in Hawaii?
Lite deck can be parked on in most cases including my New Mexico build, as long as it’s engineered it should be totally fine! I don’t do HI at the moment but one of my trainees is moving to the big island if he hasn’t already, if he could put a crew together I could easily be persuaded to come consult lol
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 How about NW Montana? Have any crews out this way?
can you park cars on lite deck ??
Yes!
Because of the great weather, Los Angeles building code lets you get away with building leaky wood-framed houses with R13 walls and R30 ceilings. None of the builders I know have even heard of ICF. However, I want to build ICF on my next two new construction projects to showcase how we should be building future houses in Los Angeles. I want to be able to pass a blower door test and get to LEED Certification or Passive House numbers. My design style will be Palm Springs mid-century modern mixed with a little Eichler flair. Do you work in Los Angeles or know any ICF professionals who would?
I trained a guy from LA back in March, he’s a professional photographer who’s house burned in a recent fire and he’s building the entire thing epically all icf! I’m sure his crew will be incredibly well versed in all things icf by the time they are done with his project! I’m happy to share his contact, email be at aaron.cuttingedgehomes@gmail.com
Can you give me the total cost of your detached garage? And what is the square footage?
30x30, 125k could be wildly different given finishes…. Square foot cost is way to crude of a metric to use for any real decision making
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 I get I’m asking for a WAG. But 125k a 30x30 detached garage is a bit steep. Don’t get me wrong, I admire the obvious quality and am envious of your build but I cant justify that kind of money for a detached garage.
Do you all work in Houston TX?
No but we have some traveling crews who might!
Any names and or contacts?
What kinda strength can an icf roof have? Flat roof. Snowy climate
Depending on engineering but it can achieve hundreds of lbs per foot if necessary
@cuttingedgehomes9251 let's separate this into 3 tiers.
Teir 1 is possible and need professional assistance to implement it correctly.
Teir 2 possible, but major considerations may make other designs more appealing.
Teir 3
Don't do it
LiteDeck vs Quad-Deck?
I’m not positive about quad, but I’m in love with the modular nature of build deck and amdeck, shipping things that fit on a pallet save tons of logistical dollars for not having oversized pallets!
Respectfully, I would like to say Light Deck looks like a great product. The cost of anything today is grossly overpriced and the fact that the Banks are going to fail within a year from now, I would never attempt to use this product. 99% can not afford it.
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What's a tpo?
Thermoplastic overlay
TPO is a common roofing membrane. It is competing with EPDM roofing membrane because it is cheaper but it will last maybe twenty years vs. EPDM which will last at least 50 years. Both EPDM & TPO can get punctured but TPO is a little stronger (it has a built-in supporting mesh). The EPDM is pure rubber and stays fixable in Sun. People also use EPDM in their fish pond. RV roofs used to be covered by EPDM and now switching to TPO because it is cheaper.
Took a drink every time you said "Uhh". Now I'm too drunk to watch the ending.
Sweet, when you go out of your way to make informative content for nothing I’ll take your criticism seriously👍🏼
I don't think by the time that insulation goes bad inside the ceiling either of us would have to worry about it.
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Hope it will not disappear in flames. Ever heard of forst fire ?
It’s concrete…. The foam is encased in concrete…. If you watched you’d know that, think it’s more resilient to “forst” fire than any other roof system I’m
Aware of…
Man, this guy needs to limit his caffeine intake!! The info is good, but the used car lot delivery..........!!
Used car lot…. Geeze man make fun of a guy using his god given adhd as a force for good in the world…. You are why more people aren’t putting themselves out there!
a rambling mess of a channel.
Says the guy with 90 subs😘
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 I don't have a following and I don't care to.
Your insecurity comes out in every rant in your videos, seeking validation. You even responding to me with a child's perception of a comeback, only hammers my point further.
Get to the point and get over yourself in the future, please, and thanks.
"This is going to house a couple cool cars"
Not showing or telling what those "cool" cars are. Only throwing a dingy stock photo. That seems poor if you ask me, coming from someone with 10k plus subs.
Can you put a Concrete Wall ledge about 3 feet tall around the perimeter so people can be up there. Also why not just put some kind of plastic then put 3 inchs of dirt and then grass that doesn't grow. Then you have the best Roof Top then.
You CAN do all of those things if it makes sense in the buildings mission…. This buildings mission is to be a fortress for some very fancy cars…. So no lol;)
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 You don't have to be rude about it. A Grass roof top is very eco friendly much better than those crappy plastic tiles you were thinking about, which would get all kinds of junk under them anyway you dumbass. lol; )
All of the ICF roof builds that I have seen using Zypex have leaked.. That product just doesn't seem to work in that application.
It works, but you’ll never make me believe it will seal the inevitable cracks, which is why I advocate against it
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 it works until it doesn't lol..