Xenon vs LED Porsche PDLS headlights - also Halogen
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2017
- Comparing the brightness of Halogen vs Xenon vs LED headlights
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I have kerosene headlights that I light with a flint.
This is the only way to go
kicking it old school! :)
is that a Amish horse and buggy lol.
azaz911c I don’t have a car
@@jameswilkinson150 That is strange. Just have a thing for headlights ?
I did not mention but you can see on the garage that the Xenons on low beam, have a more even throw of light over a wider area.
very inerteresting viedo thank you so much for this presentation
Nick Murray exactly. If you look at the Garage door, the bottom of door was more dim on LED vs. Xenon. So Xenon while not as bright, does a better job distributing lights and that to me is more important.
That does not mean anything. Relevant is not the projection on your garage door, but how well the light cone illuminates the actual tarmac and sides of the road in the distance. And if you have ever seen graphical representations of what those are like, the newer ones have always been better. You can be sure that they have put the lens design of the LEDs through a computer for the best results on the road - not on your garage door...
Good video. I have a 2016 Turbo S and didn't know the LEDs were that much brighter than the Xenon. I bought them for the auto dimming and speed variable length. Not sure you mentioned but if you go over 80Mph the LED lights will raise to increase length of beam down the road. Also, I find this annoying, the auto High beam will not come on at speeds below 45Mph. The manual says this is a consideration for inter city driving whatever that is. You can manually override it.
Baerchenization actually it does matter. Not to you but everyone else on the road. If you have sloppy beak masking and brighter lights it blinds the hell out of the incoming traffic.
That's one reason the EU cars have a higher power permitted and their inspections specs, driver discipline and roads result in less blinding of incoming traffic than in us conditions where folks routinely drive down city steers with hightbeams on and most states don't verify the beam shape settings regularly.
2:18 So beautiful to see two 911 like that :O
SylDreams that mid light is gorgeous
I also see the car only, so beautiful!
I agree that the Xenon headlights look more "classic". but the LED really looked cool to me. In addition, I did read about how much more closer to daylight LED is. Thing is, I didnt have a choice anyway because the 991.2 Turbo S comes with LED as standard.
Loved this video. Thanks for taking the time out to do this. This is one of those videos many wanted to see but didnt have the time to ask for :)
Congrats again on your 911 Nick!
I just gave a thumbs up to a light bulb comparison.
watching Nick Flirt with the hair stylist was pretty bad
Actually it was a lightbulb and LED comparison. Pft. Get it right. LOL.
I really wish auto makers would use a more neutral color temp on their led designs, say 4500-5000K. I get that they want them to stand out by making them with higher temperatures (aka more blue). But in my mind 4300K of the HID headlights is a nice clean white light thats revealing, yet easy on the eyes. Not to mention now with high CRI led dies available they could really improve color rendition of road objects and rival natural sunlight.
Tim Fritz not to mention the warmer (more yellow) the light, the better visibility. My car came with those blue ass HIDs and it's damn near impossible to see during rain. I swapped the bulbs for 4300K. So much more output and visibility.
Nicholas Smith: I've heard of blue balls but never "blue ass."
Its amazing how controllable the more modern bulbs/projectors are. Such a level and even dispersal vs the conventional bulb spreading light everywhere.
THANK god you made this video, I've been wondering about the differences between the Standard and LED headlights for a while. Thanks Nick
Nick, you just brightened up my day! Or would that be night...
You are my first subscribed to channel. Keep up the first class videos!
Nothing's better than the timeless lines of a 911...looks great!
DriveBMC And those Carrera 4Ss from behind in the video. Cool taillights.
yup love the new taillights
DriveBMC you mean a VW Beetle?
+Abhimanyu Singh No. VW Beetle is ugly IMO. Cannot compare to a Carrera .
Great video Nick!! I was always curious about the difference and this is the perfect video that no one has ever made!
i like the fact that u love Porsche , and your very thorough with your video and explanation but not over thorough which is great. some people go into details and u spend a day watching to one or 2 useful info, thats called waste of time, your videos are so good, thanks buddy keep the good work.
Thanks for delivering on a video you promised a while back. Was looking forward to this.
Love this video! Thanks again Nick You've been answering all the nuanced questions I have about Porsche
Great video. Excellent comparison.I have PDLS plus , I am used to xenons in my BMW & Audi since 2009, but I can see clear difference when I drive with PDLS plus.
Actually I found the Xenon light more evenly distributed. So while LED measure brighter, the bottom of your garage door was a lot dimmer on LED than Xenon. Hence, I think Xenon should do a better general job illuminating the road than LED. That's actually the issue with LED lights in general. They're very directional and not as wide as halogens or Xenon. I'd still pick Xenon.
You can pick led lights and high beams xenon or HID
Those are the best lights to choose
If you have a look at the freezeframe at about 2:25 , you can easily notice how much more glare (above the cutoff) the LEDs are producing in comparison to the xenons. It can be a good and bad thing. Good thing is it'll light up distant road signs much better than Xenons can; bad, it may cause irritating glare to other drivers, but I'm sure Porsche has engineered the glare to be "just right" in addition to the dipping feature. It's all about usable light so xenons, better colour temperature and light distribution, LEDS better road sign visibility and longevity (less light output loss over time).
@@stevenlam4802 LEDs are not long lasting. Most of my home LEDs have lost their brightness or died after 5 years. It’s a fallacy. Yes they may last long, but lose light output every year.
Its so simple and obvious:
1. Regardless of how good Xenons/HIDs are, their light output deteriorate relatively much faster vs LEDs. Hence, in any Xenon headlights, the brightness is noticeably much dimmer after 2yrs if used for 2-3hrs every week. And replacement bulbs are expensive. LEDs and Halogens do not hv this issue. LEDs can maintain the same light output for many years.
2. Reflector LED headlights are cheap to produce, enable slim designs to be achieved (current Honda Civic), but the distance penetration is dismal. If you want the brightness and dependability of LEDs, then choose projector LED headlights.
3. If you are pursuing distance penetration, and a wide even swath of bright light, with little emphasis on aesthetics and are prepared to replace bulbs every 2-3yrs to maintain optimal performance, any factory Xenon/HID with a big projector is my favourite choice.
4. The super white light from LEDs only look impressive when it falls onto light and medium grey tarmac or sandy paths or concrete highways. On a wet, black asphalt on a rainy night, your white LED light is not noticeable at all and it appears your headlights are not switched on.
JK Low to be honest with you bro... led could not last a weak in my country bcaue of its hot weather... led cannot be to hot thats why they have a fan...
I recently changed my HID bulbs. It cost a arm and a leg each.
Nick: thanks a bunch for following up and producing this video. I have bi-Xenon's, and have wondered about the difference between the LEDs and the Xenons. Good stuff. Cheers. -S
Thank you for making this informative video. The best part was driving with all three headlamps. Anytime I'm not sure what to order I simply scan for your videos on the subject and end up making the right decision. Thanks again.
Wow great test Nick
Cool test! I like the look of the xenons, but like the performance of the LEDs. I didn’t realize their would be such a difference between the two
Thank you Nick for another informative and well done Porsche video!
Interesting! I was/had been curious regarding the headlights of the L.E.D.s V. Xeon lights!
Videos like this are why you have a subscriber count in six figures, Quite a simple idea but we all appreciate the time and effort that went Into this 5:12 video.Another well deserved thumbs up from me.
Wow, thank you for this great comparison Nick!
Really appreciate it!
Best Porsche vids online. Honest and true
Great test Nick! Kudos to your friend for letting him borrow you his ride.
Damn fine video, Sir. A regular Consumer Reports, you are.
The noting the readings on the screen was very nice. The video side by side by side was especially impressive.
Super helpful comparison. Thank you. Was very surprised that the xenon high beams were brighter than the LED.
Nice, concise, informative and well produced vid. Good job!
Great to see vid with a high end car comparison, great job
Have to watch it yet... but I can already tell you that I love this new video log. Thanks mate
I really like those three Porsche posters in your garage Nick!
Great comparison Nick. Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
thanks for the video nice! surprised at the results. I never would have considered the LED until now. I'm with you the styling on the HID does look better but you can't deny the light output on the LED.
I prefer xenon for the pattern, and there is something on the light that seems more comfortable and reliable on them (at least for me), plus LED is brighter on short distances i think, you could have done the video focusing the road instead of the sidewalk for a better comparison, after all you are ment to be looking forward most of time and there is where the beams should stand out, great vid anyways
Very informative and once again I have learned something new by one of your videos. Thanks much!
Thanks for doing this. Most of the videos I found of these comparisons were aftermarket. Currently thinking of a new car so it would be OEM
wow Nick, I think that You did very good job with that video. Measuring, driving, editing video, chasing Tui..that's a loot. Good job
Been waiting for this comparison video!!!
Very interesting video , congrats about the idea .
Very nice results , we learned something today.
The other thing i noticed is that xenon lights keep the same intese light everywhere . The projector just does an excellent job. On the other hand , halogens and leds (that are not projector lights) tend to have brighter and darker spots . So the result with xenons is much more uniform , and that's what i want from the lights . Even light everywhere , whether is bright or not. It makes driving more relaxed.
So that's another unmentioned aspect of the results! Do you agree?
Thanks Nick.
Excellent video Nick... very interesting information!
Thank you for this very Good test and compare
Nicolas
Very interesting video mate. My previous car had xenons and my current car has LEDs although they're early, entry-level LEDs and not as advanced as those found in more expensive cars. I must admit the xenons were a little brighter in main beam and a lot brighter in high beam. I'm still happy with the LEDs though overall.
I subscribed cuz you brought a light meter to the question! Good job big!
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Great stuff!!
Thanks Nick! Your videos are great.
Damn, Nick! Ha ha
Great video... your vids only get better and better.
They're informative and appreciated.
Although, I do love my Xenon setup, I'm leaning towards the LED investment/ upgrade.
Thanks again.
Nick, this was very helpful!
Could you please make a video comparing the new Bose system with the Burmester sound system?
Many thanks!
Finally some decent comparison. Thank you!
I wanted to know about that. Thanks, Nick!
Thanks for this Nick, really informative.
Nicely done.can you do a video on the difference between a (green) light saber and a phaser (set to stun).
You should do a video on longevity and replacement costs. I think the LEDs look better here (it's the ones with the distinctive 4 little lights design, right?), but I wonder about those 2 factors. LED was crazy expensive to replace from personal experience vs xenons.
Nick,
Thanks for the objective testing. The real question is how much lux is enough? Unless one is doing high speed runs, guess either is fine. Keep up the good work.
Great video Nick thanks for your time & effort, regardless of the look of the xenon which you like it..in your opinion is it really worth it to choose LED over Xenon regarding brightness wise ??
Another brilliant video Nick. We are missing all of your regular video updates! Do you know if it's a straight in/out replacement if you wanted to replace a 991.1 Xenon headlights with LED headlights?
very very helpful Nick thank you very much for conducting the study
I would let it all come down to the kind of 911 I was going for. Yours is incredibly stylish and elegant and somewhat classic looking, so the round-eye classic looking xenons fit the car tremendously. Also on a focused car like a GT3, I would go for those. On a Turbo or an all-out bold looking version like a GTS, the LED's give the car a great look. I just wish you could have the Xenons be adaptive without having to paint them black.. I want the lights to swivel but not allways have them i black.
Thanks for shining a light on this contentious topic.
I see what you did there...
I can not explain why the hell I like your videos but I do and maybe like is not a strong enough a word. Thank from NYC and Kent CT on the weekends.
Thanks Pete
Does anyone really want to know what the 8 thumbs downers were thinking?
Nick, I appreciate the time and effort that you put into this vlog!
That was really interesting. I love xenon from the driver seat but seeing them coming at you is so blinding
really great vid, nick!
Nice practical comparison Nick Murray. I prefer the distribution of my Porsche Xenon's over my wife's BMW LEDs and since the high beams are about equal I would opt for the Xenon again.
Great comparison. Thanks. Very helpful and informative.
Thanks for the helpful info...definitely a consideration for future purchases.
Nick,
You say it's not scientific but I say it is - your measurements were accurate enough compared to the light differences. You gave a very good picture for all of us - thanks!
I also choose the regular lights for my 991.2, purely for the looks.
Cheers!
Good move!
Hi Nick, if you have a chance to re-visit this, maybe lining up all three against a wall from a greater distance and shooting a picture - with the same settings - one-by-one would show off the differences nicely.
Very interesting! Thanks for the review.
Great vid again, educating too. The choice is ours, now. And that's a good thing. Porsche itself presents graphics on its website to mark the differences. They could do however, with a video like yours. Some things you really need to see with your own eyes. This is one of them. Thumbs up, Nick!
Well done Nick
Nick, do you know which xenon lamps porsche delivers in the cars. maybe you get better result with some different lamps.
Yours are the best choice Nick. They suit the car stylistically and are plenty bright enough unless you are driving into a black hole.
Great video Nick! Very useful.
Nick, is there any difference between the daytime running lights on the xenon vs LED configuration? Great video as always.
Interesting comparison! Certainly if it were a $2K bump from halogen to LED I would consider it, but I don't think I'd spend that to go from Xenon to LED. I have always been delighted with the Xenon lights on my BMWs.
Illuminating :) nice one nick, cheers
Nice demo to observe the difference. : ) Thank you
Thing i hate about LED's on other cars is they are freaking blinding, even on low beam.
lyianx not in projectors. Yes they are in reflectors.
If they are blinding there is an issue with them. Most likely a bad aftermarket kit in a headlight made for halogen, or a badly aimed headlight.
Johannes Mittendrin where did u get ur info at?😂 led is so much better
My moms Altima has the led lights it’s 2017 and it has a clean cutoff line
Great vid Nick! Does the turning feature come standard on the Xenons or was that an option?
Interesting video Nick !
It's quite cool seeing the LED beams in my Audi in action as they constantly change their beam. The xenons look great and your car is tastefully specced as well ! Enjoy
I would also add, in my experience I find that cars oncoming with LEDs don't glare the driver as much compared to Xenons!
Great video. Thanks for the comparison.
My ND Miata has LED lights. They are honestly amazing! They light up the road and swivel around corners. One thing is most people think you have your brights on in certain situations even if they auto level.
Great info! Thanks Nick
Great video. Thanks for the work.
Very well done. I really appreciate it. I have read quite a few articles that the insurance folks are now rating headlight system effectiveness and Xenon and LED systems are really the only systems that meet their standards, I think there are maybe two cars with halogens that can meet the standard so I think halogen's days are numbered. I am hoping that the insurance folks will push the Feds to allow European levels of headlight performance and laser technology used at its full potential because from what I have seen of the BMW laser system that is the best of all worlds, shapes the light to protect oncoming drivers and lights much further than any system before it.
Great video Nick!
Nick, I have been informed that the standard HID system on the Porsche is a 25 watt system. If it was the typical 35 watt it would definitely be brighter. A lot of manufacturers seem to be putting out 25 watt systems for some reason (my TL has a 35 watt system)
Awesome comparison man
Nick, thanks for the comparison, well done. You should consider a RaceDeck floor for your garage, it would be a huge improvement. I am not affiliated with RaceDeck. 😉
Great video Nick! Would you be able to do a video showing off the "Light Design Package" for the 911 at night? I think it would be a great feature to show off.
Intelligent comparison, nice review
I ordered my 2017 C4 with Xenon lights although I might have considered LED had I seen this video. On the other hand, the Xenon seemed to do a bit better brightness wise on high beam, but that doesn't address the quality and "throw" differences between Xenon and LED.
Given that most of my driving is done in a well lit city, I wonder whether i'd notice much of a difference from day to day (or night to night) driving. On the highway, I wonder if the Xenons don't do a bit better. that would be of interest to me.
Vs Laser Headlights...
Laser headlights are illegal in the country of the free ...
I think Audi got them in North America on the 2017 R8 (at least in Canada I can confirm), but yeah like in this video they coded all the fun out of it. I think its only laser on high beam in certain situations. Its a damn shame, when all we want is to make driving safer and its illegal...
Not anymore. You can order an i8 with them.
kinds sorta not true LOL
I think it actually is available now ... just checked ...
Hey Nick, Cool experiment. I was wondering, for the drive way metered test, were the car engines were running? Just a side note: It is funny how similar the VWs night time fender/hood profile is to the Porsche.
Amazing test. Thanks.
The LEDs in our C300 coupe are maybe marginally brighter than our 911s HIDs. They do tend to fill out the space a bit better tho.
I'd like to acknowledge my two most popular Porsche/car channels: Nick Murray and JP & Co!
ten2055 haha thanks man. Always nice to hear stuff like this!
JP & Co.
actually there not, the DOT sets the max brightness not the mfg. as in most high end cars the LED lights are set around 83% that’s so you don’t blind the driver in front of you.
Great comparison, Nick! I have High density light on my 2011 GT3RS, the beam turn as turn of the steering wheel.(now i got 7,500 miles) As I know you're a respectable car guy! Could you tell me when would be a good time to sell the car?(RS market). What would you consider to purchase to replace the GT3RS?! So far, I couldn't find a similar price range car to be comparable to the RS driving sensation and involvement. I drove a Huracan, it looks amazing w/ jet fighter interior but the steering feel a bit remote. The only car I found that I feel the driving sensation and perhaps as exciting to drive would be 430 or 458. But i know the repair and maintenance is outrageous to me.
I really like the headlight technology, I noticed the 2017 LED headlight is whiter and brighter beam on my niece Rav 4 than my business delivery fleet 2013 Prius V (whiter light than Porsche HID but not as white as new 2017 Rav 4).
How is the headlight tech on Porsche vs,. BMW laser headlight? I saw Merc offer intelligent LED headlights. Audi got their own headlight tech too.. have you get a chance to check them out yet? Please let me know... cheers 🍻
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cool thanks for the comparison. I should have ponied up for the LEDs...