My son cried when Bambi's Mom was shot, and he got very upset every time he watched Lady and the Tramp, when the dog got arrested. Somehow, he has grown up into a fully functioning, non-traumatized adult.
Yeah at least old movies for kids had a lot of life lessons in to prepare kids for life that life it’s not only rainbow and sunshine. There are heavy days and life is sometimes sad. That is reality.
I watched all these old films ! And read Black beauty which was heart breaking ! But I also later on watched my little brother die my parents and sister later on !! It’s life ! And probably if I was younger now they would of had me on happy pills !!!!
@@shruti7740 Crying and feeling sadness is not traumatizing It helps ppl to grow and be more emphatic towards another being And here in Hungary there are a lot of parents taking their kids out to hunt, to learn pest control and I was also raised like that but instead of deers, wild boars and such I mostly killed rats, or I captured foxes live so they could be relocated (it mostly worked on the younger ones after spending some time with them so they wouldn't be afraid the adults were difficult to capture alive and you would be surprised how strong their bites can be)
What's funny about this is the same people who want to ban books about black history and LGBTqi experiences are the same people who are offended at Bambi's mom not being killed. The irony
I watched BAMBI when I was 6, I am now 60 and I am yet to see a therapist.😂😂😂😂😂 . My grandchildren have watched all the original DISNEY movies and they don't see therapist. Children need to be made aware of realty. These people are really really needing help. They are destroying everything.
I loved Disney as a child but these adaptations are terrible, like really, really terrible, I wouldn't have My kids watch that crap, and I dont even have any.
in arab world we dont care about this bs really there are some who got affected by the west but they got ignored not like there they control things ..hope they dont control us too lol
Same, because 20 years ago none of this madness would've been tolerated, now the patients are running the asylum. This world is fucked plain and simple.
You can’t shelter kids from the real world- I lost my mum as a child. Watching Bambi/Land Before Time/Lion King were nothing compared to the reality of actually losing a parent. Actually, experiencing these things through the “safety” of a cartoon/story can prepare you. It can also mean other children get your situation more.
We all grew up watching Bambi and none of us are traumatized by the mom dying. Sure it was sad, but it didn’t ruin my childhood or teen years or adulthood.
Saying our society has evolved past hardship and loss (e.g. Bambi's mother dying) is ridiculous and it's clear that Ernest doesn't live where most of us do.
my 4 year old son watched my Dad get very ill and die over a 4 month period as we live with my parents. It was very hard for us all, but it is the reality of life. Bubble wrapping children and giving them misinformation about genders is far more harmful than real life imo
Kids learn empathy from seeing these sort of scenes from cartoons, they're supposed to feel the feels. If we try to protect kids from films like Bambi were going to end up with a bunch of sociopaths running around the place
You don't learn empathy the same way you don't learn arousal. It's hardwired into you. But yes it is probably healthy to exercise these emotions in safe ways so we can have better command of them.
It is all really just a form of emotional training and or manipulation to make children how they want them to be. It places feelings in vulnerable children. They do it to adults too with music and movies. The name of the game is controlling emotions and pleasures in people, and especially reinforcing the idea that life is inherently going to involve terrible things ... when the whole point of civilization is to mitigate those things.
I agree. We live in a society where death isn’t rampant, our towns aren’t pillaged, our people aren’t slaughtered by invaders, etc. so kids don’t (typically) see death first hand or really experience much tragedy. A cartoon is a simple way to get a small dose of exposure to tragedy where you can talk to them about their feelings.
They best not ruin Bambi it’s a literal golden classic. Beautiful film, beautiful story, beautiful music. Can’t they just like… not bother with all the nonsense this time? 😩
Havent you heard about the Top Gear Remake? Jeremy is a body positive obese woman, richard is a non binary trans man and james is a pan sexual rainbow brite who goes by 'xi/xer' pronouns. And people wonder why modern tv is in the fucking toilet...
@@tenorio295 The extreme liberals kids will get a rude awakening when they learn how the world really works where nobody holds your hand or gives you second chances at a job. They say no to violence on screen but yes to showing gay sex in a parade in front of them? I really wanted to punch Ernest in the face when he was talking! He is not raised well.
@@Malayalikadayou are both wrong. Focusing on one or the other and brainwashing children, forcing them to be aware of things they do not have the ability to understand, like death and carnage is as idiotic as it gets. Children should be taught little by little that which adds up to them eventually being able to ask their own questions and find their own answers from books written by people who actually have good intentions for humanity.
I felt the Bambi scene teaches kids empathy and compassion. They invested in Bambi to live, and grow. Ignore the perpetually offended….please! Enough now.
I remember my mother took me to see bambi. It was an anniversary release. Snow white and then bambi. I was around 4 . I remember when bambis mother died , that was the first moment I realised my mother could and one day would die , I was very upset and cried. Yet by the time the movie was over, I was starting to feel better. And I had a wonderful talk with my mother when she put me to bed that night.decades later, I still remember it. .it's essential for the movie. A movie that doesn't require a remake
I cried my young face out when Bambi's mom died. Same when Mufasa died. And I still sang along happily to Timon and Pumba's Hakuna Matata. Imagine that, movies that actually allowed me to experience a whole range of HUMAN emotions in a safe way, that actually helped prepare me for the hardships (a lot of them) of adult real world life.
@@eoinoconnor5783 which is why there's no sense in changing existing stories. let them live in their current state. make new happy ones, or new sad ones, or new whatever you feel like ones. just. new. ones. stop remaking stuff.
As a child Bereavement Practitioner, this is such a backwards move! You can't protect children from death... hiding it from them is so dangerous in practice! Very disappointing 😞
I grew up watching the first Land Before Time. It was one of my favorite animated films and I wasn't traumatized by it. The main character loses their parent from a Tyrannosaurus attack, and she dies in front of him. I also watched Bambi as well. We need to stop raising weak people who need to be sheltered from reality.
I was traumatized and confused by so many movies and forms of 'art' as a child. Almost all of it is brainwashing and training, and manufactured by people who know exactly what they are doing.
Oh I loved Land Before Time. I was a teacher + we were studying dinosaurs - year 4, so part of our learning I brought the DVD in (that shows you there era 😂). Anyway, I had just started dating my now husband, then boyfriend + it was our 4th date night. He came over to my parents home + I wanted to watch the movie to make sure it was what I wanted for my class. He was a bit perplexed at first. We were 24. Nonetheless, he sat watching it with me. He adored it. Years later, I'd come home and find him watching it by himself 😊
I was thinking of that! I was 6 when I watched it, and to date, my siblings and I sing "don't lose your way..." when we get together, since we live continents apart as adults. The movie was poignant, and I'm so glad we grew up with such beautifully woven stories.
I'm 32 years of age and I survived Bambi's mum's death as a kid, mufasa's death as a kid and when Todd got abandoned in the forest. The moral of the story is, I grew up absolutely fine and learned empathy and emotions from my own parents through films, it's how parents treat and nurture your child through films like this not just simply push it aside and ignore just as much to be lazy and not properly teach your children and guide them.
I love Tod and Copper. I admit I have, Lady and the Tramp, The Parent Trap, Old Yeller, and Tod and Copper in my DVD library. The first three are from my childhood in the 60's.
As kid who lost their dad at 9 years old, these movies were part of what helped me process grief. Little foot in the Land Before Time was another one. So these movies you’re changing are robbing a kid who really needs them to cope with death.
Exactly. Simba overcame fear and guilt and became a strong brave king after Mufasa died. I know these films aren’t that old, but in “The Good Dinosaur” Arlo became a stronger, braver son after losing his dad, in “Barnyard” Otis became a strong, brave leader after Ben was killed by Coyotes. Are they next gonna bring back Batman’s parents? Or Harry Potter’s parents? Are Anakin and Padmé gonna raise Luke and Leia together? Going back to Disney/ animated films. If anything, films like that encourage people to become better and stronger for the sake of their late beloved parents.
Still having Ava Evans on after all she's said and done while condemning others is a joke and a slap in the face of everybody who has lost a friend, husband, son etc. to suicide, to every man whose mental health is soul destroying and to every man falsely accused of horrible things.
@@davidclark7233 because feminism is the supremacist view we are supposed to ignore. they, she, are pretty open. mens lives have no value. so suicide pah who cares. the feminist maths is= females suffer more=female isse, males suffer more =deal with it as if females suffer more. so covid/cancer/murder/suicide/homelessness/acid attacks/even war all issues where you are not just more likely to be effected as a male but far far more are portrayed as 'women are suffering'. once youve decided mens actual lives are valueless then merely destroing one through false accusations, and the demands for a kkk style believe preferred class' justice system, is no big deal. piers siding with an open supremacist by not having the spine to bin her, but then he was always a pompous fraud rather than the big tough guy debate 'ill call it' guy he wants us to think....
Disney's original "Bambi" is a great film and should not be changed for anyone's warped sense of reality. I remember watching it when I was 11 years old at the movie theatre with my brother and watching his mom get killed was a fact of reality, especially deer! Deer get shot! People hunt during deer season. It is a fact of life and it was a great lesson. I was a very sensitive boy and still am as a 57 year old adult and was NOT traumatized by this film at all! The whole story revolved around Bambi having a support "family" with Thumper and that gave us children a feeling of security! I haven't seen this film in over 40 years, but remember that and I felt great leaving the theatre! The story was part of life. Again, society is handling and controlling kids again and should not. Leave them alone. They need guidance from their parents, not the cinema!
Exactly! I believe it teaches kids to feel empathy and compassion for others. It certainly never hurt anyone I know. My own kids watched it. They were sad and tbh, I was glad to see them feeling compassion for Bambi. It certainly didn’t cause any PTSD. Both are in the military now lol.
When i was a child, kojack out of tarzan died and i cried, in lion king when mustafa died i cried but guess what, within 5-10 minutes i got over it, wokeness and all this "being considerate to others" will get us nowhere, creativity is supressed enough as it is.
Yeah and this wokeness supposed to be considered for everyone, well they are suppressing 95% of population for few people who feel really entitled like being sun and everyone and everything have to spin around them and we all have to embrace it and shout bravoooo. It’s sad and stupid really. Stop grooming kids in to useless stupid entitled society. How will world work in 20 years? After they groom whole generation? Who will do work? How does that come someone get away with Murdering or raping his own dother because of his ethnicity and someone who is working paying taxes and being ordinary person is being dragged to court and to prison for misgendering and because says own opinion. Whose feelings are about to be said and who’s feeling are punishable for being said. Who the f..k is deciding this? Free world, what a bullshit.
Nothing wrong with seeing someone die in a cartoon it prepares you for what it is or will be like, its a sad reality that we all must face at some point. It helps them gain a sense of empathy and understanding. Big Hero 6 and Find Nemo which were released a lot more recently than Bambi has death in it and that adds to the emotion and story of the movie.
Bambi and Dumbo give children fear that they or their parents will be murdered or they will be kidnapped. An example of a cartoon that shows a "natural" progression of life being death would be Charlotte's Web.
I watched the movie for the first time back in 1994 when I was 10 and there was nothing to Bambi's mothers death. You hear a gun shot and that's it. I thought nothing of it, It wasn't traumatizing. Now I'm a father I showed the movie to my son a few years ago when he was 5. He thought nothing of that scene too. It didn't upset him, we watched it to the end and infact he thought the whole movie was boring. I think what Woke Disney is gonna do is later in the movie when Bambi grows up they're gonna make Bambi gay, Thumper will become non binary and Flower will become a transgender!
And so what? Just because it was made one way and you liked it means it can never be made with different kind of characters? Have you read the Grimm tales, which have been adapted to these modern "fairy" tales with happy endings? Is that a betrayal too that will cause UK's great culture to be destroyed and white people to be hunted and the world to end? 🙄
I was hit emotionally but more because of the after scenes with Bambi alone and the tragic music. It is the absolute horror scenario for every child loosing its mum. But experincing strong emotions is not traumatsing.
Nearly all childrens films have a parent dye in the first scene, that was part of the previous programming of our generations to desensitise us to death. I definitely wont agree with any woke remake either but there are theories about how old disney films had weird subliminals. This debate is a weird cos the people who are supporting "Disney Classics" dont even like disney and think their satanic already. Why are we surprised disney is making more weird shit? Theyve been doing it all along.
@@mkadam1 The other way around. It has been made to push extra for emphatic emotions to create drama and not to desensitise. What has been made to desensitise are specific ego shooter computer games. Similar are used in military training.
I read the Bambi novel by Felix Salten when I was 8. That book was far more graphic and yet I was able to move on from it just fine. It seems that many just don't see the whole of that scene. It not only taught children about death and finding the strength to live on, but it also showed the power of self sacrifice and the most intimate value of pure love.
@@emilevanrensburg8094 Lol, I'm definitely not "OK" but as a child who adored animals it was something that I understood happens. Just like I never damned the lion for killing the buffalo to feed her cubs on Wild Kingdom. Sometimes children can understand the truth in the world far better if they aren't influenced by agenda.
"We are in a different world now..." Wow that sentence says a lot. Its the same world as it has always been. Survival of the fittest. We just live in a time where the weak are allowed to live.
Thank you Piers! Not only is there nothing wrong with showing death in cartoons, it's crucial to do so. It provides an opportunity to discuss death where there is some emotional attachment but it is still a made up story. That is a gentle way of teaching children about death caused by someone else. Taking every bit of resilience out of childrens upbringing is devestaing. That's probably one reason the phenomenon of "safe spaces" have explored.
I wish I could like this a hundred times! Yes, all of the fairy tales and fables are there for a reason! They teach lessons vicariously so you can learn something about human experience without having to experience it yourself. These libtards are ruining everything.
A few generations including myself a millennial grew up watching films like Bambi that touched complex subjects we are doing and have been doing absolutely fine!!!! Kids are growing up inside a bubble and unaware of reality and when the time comes for them to face reality they end up like Earnest, confused easily offended entitled lost brats.
I think the debate would have been stronger had they really focused on the fact that there are life lessons to learn from those movies. Movies like Bambi, The Land Before Time, or The Fox and the Hound showed their heroes experiencing things like the death of a loved one and learning how to continue on and flourish. The Land Before Time had Littlefoot lose his mother, grieve her, and discover that he could still remember what she had taught him and survive. Bambi did the same. Those lessons were basically the point and they're more valuable than a simplified, cute tale about a happy deer living in the woods with his friends would be. That's a totally different story. I would worry that keeping children so sheltered that they never have to consider those ideas until they've experienced a personal loss in real life would leave them more likely to struggle with the concept of loss. It's good to be able to present children with the complexities of life with stories because it helps them examine the ideas within those stories and the emotions they bring up. The current obsession with censoring such things, I fear, keeps us all in a position where we're forced to treat normal human emotions (such as sadness) as "traumatic." That's not healthy.
Bambi is the reason why thousands of people joined animal rights organizations, or became vegetarian, or just became more conscious to treat animals more humanely. It's a learning experience. It helps people to shape their beliefs and values. And they want to erase those moments so that some don't get sad from it? Are they really that short sighted?
Well said! By showing children the reality of many children's mothers being k!lled, they can develop empathy for them *AND* for animals. Also, how is Tomi's take on this homophobic and transphobic? He's just playing the rainbow card- he has no sound arguments.
I’m 100% okay with these silly films. Disney has lost a billion dollars at the box office. Snow White is gonna lose 100 million. Let’s keep the party going! Keep losing money, Disney!
As someone who leaned left up to just a couple of years ago, I'm appalled at where the left is now. It's mortifyingly embarrassing. And I can't even deal with the far right. Brutal.
Omg i cant believe what is going on! & the discussions that have to be had because of this whole woke generation... I cant deal 😤. Its pure crazy. When does it stop??
I'm with you on this Piers. I thought I was liberal until things changed... now I am most definitely on the side of the conservatives! The world is going mad!!
I cried at bambi, I cried at the lion king & I cried at the land before time. I still do as an adult, but scenes like those teach kids about empathy. We need to stop with this nonsense of being over sensitive & pushing that on others. There's nothing wrong with having a good cry at a movie.
For god sake what is wrong people you don't see anything in bambi's mother's death i was watching predator back in the 80's when i was 10 years old these days society is full of over sensitive pansy's.
You were affected. Such things helped you become a well rounded, balanced human, able to deal with life's ups as well as the downs. If kids are being sheltered from seeing a cartoon deer die, just imagine how well they are going to be able to cope when someone in real life actually dies! No wonder kids are always upset and riddled with anxiety nowadays. Cotton wool does not belong wrapped around children :(
The black guy on the right is actually so arrogant the faces he makes when someone is talking tell you all and he was itching to tell everyone he was gay although it is nothing to do with the argument ...
Bambi was/is a classic. I'm not going to lie, I am still scarred by Bambi's mother's death. I can remember crying my eyes out as a child watching that. But I don't think it hurt me over all or traumatized me. Although maybe it did lol 😆 Same with Mufasa's death. I'm still so tired of their "remakes" - "stop remaking" things that are classics and ruining them in the midst of it - just MAKE something.
@@joshuataylor3550 Its the peoples choice to decide to "adapt" to every liberal woke stupid idea that they create from 1 day to another, but leave children out of it.
Bring back the days when our parents were ok with us kids building a billy cart out of scrap, racing them down the nearest steep tar road without a helmet and seatbelt, getting to the end and realising it would be a good idea to fashion a break lol. Apart from walking in circles when the microwave is turned on, we turned out fine hahahhaha. Joking but we turned out fine and eager to try anything without fear. Just as nature intended.
There’s a lots of kids lose a parent when they are very young those kind of animations it’s literally made for such a child so they could relate that they could see that it’s not only happening with them and see Bambi going through it I’m not sure why people think tragedy is not part of life, and they need to protect this new generation from it when it’s going to be so horrible for them when it starts happening all at once to them other than that people don’t give children enough credit the reason why learning starts so young because children could separate themselves from whatever they are seeing they didn’t develop enough empathy to extremely be involved in a situation so, even if it made them sad. It wouldn’t stick with them. Two minutes after this movie ends they will forget they even seen it but they will have the lesson that some people may lose their parents very young even if it didn’t happen to them maybe it will have it happened to a friend so they will have the tool to deal with this so this week demented gross society that they are trying to build. It’s horrifying to me honestly
Disney needs to understand that in 2023 most children see violence in their home between family members. I think that Woke is attacking the cartoon because it has family values, respect and love in it. Woke people hate real loving families and happiness.
How are they gonna make Bambi more appropriate for kids these days to find relatable?! Is Bambi’s dad gonna suffer an opiate OD & her mom try feeding her puberty blockers?
You know some of us kids had dead moms already and we were able to relate to this story. Now I will add a funny thing. My sister fast forwarded the mom dying for my nephew and he has grown up to enjoy hunting
My son cried when Bambi's Mom was shot, and he got very upset every time he watched Lady and the Tramp, when the dog got arrested. Somehow, he has grown up into a fully functioning, non-traumatized adult.
Yeah at least old movies for kids had a lot of life lessons in to prepare kids for life that life it’s not only rainbow and sunshine. There are heavy days and life is sometimes sad. That is reality.
Do you think he would have been less fully functioning if he had been less traumatised, and seen animals treated more kindly?
I watched all these old films ! And read Black beauty which was heart breaking ! But I also later on watched my little brother die my parents and sister later on !! It’s life ! And probably if I was younger now they would of had me on happy pills !!!!
@@shruti7740
Crying and feeling sadness is not traumatizing
It helps ppl to grow and be more emphatic towards another being
And here in Hungary there are a lot of parents taking their kids out to hunt, to learn pest control and I was also raised like that but instead of deers, wild boars and such I mostly killed rats, or I captured foxes live so they could be relocated (it mostly worked on the younger ones after spending some time with them so they wouldn't be afraid the adults were difficult to capture alive and you would be surprised how strong their bites can be)
It promotes empathy for animals
Seeing a child cry let’s you know they have empathy shutting down emotions is unhealthy
@@KJ23. are you saying teachers and parents are experts in monitoring childrens in cinema and their reactions. Didn't know that.
@techscience1480 omg 😲 I'd say a child's PARENTS is the expert on what there child does or don't see be taught etc😮
@@techscience1480 you must be very smart
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What's funny about this is the same people who want to ban books about black history and LGBTqi experiences are the same people who are offended at Bambi's mom not being killed. The irony
Bambi's mother dying is the tragic event that sets up the character. It's why the viewer is sympathic. It's a necessary element.
I watched BAMBI when I was 6, I am now 60 and I am yet to see a therapist.😂😂😂😂😂 . My grandchildren have watched all the original DISNEY movies and they don't see therapist.
Children need to be made aware of realty.
These people are really really needing help.
They are destroying everything.
100% 👏
Disney is woke as hell. End of discussion!
The last ten years for sure.
Bro...woke is hell
At this point, "woke" is too polite a word. Better to say "fucked into the ground" 😂😂
I loved Disney as a child but these adaptations are terrible, like really, really terrible, I wouldn't have My kids watch that crap, and I dont even have any.
How is it in the woke world, none of that s**t exists where I am from. Seems very very strange.
I miss where society was 20 years ago.
in arab world we dont care about this bs really there are some who got affected by the west but they got ignored not like there they control things ..hope they dont control us too lol
me too
Same, because 20 years ago none of this madness would've been tolerated, now the patients are running the asylum. This world is fucked plain and simple.
20 years ago? The age of terror? 🙃
I miss where it was just 10 years ago 🤷♂️
You can’t shelter kids from the real world- I lost my mum as a child. Watching Bambi/Land Before Time/Lion King were nothing compared to the reality of actually losing a parent. Actually, experiencing these things through the “safety” of a cartoon/story can prepare you. It can also mean other children get your situation more.
I forgot how Land Before Time used to make me cry every time, haha. Loved that movie.
We all grew up watching Bambi and none of us are traumatized by the mom dying. Sure it was sad, but it didn’t ruin my childhood or teen years or adulthood.
just wait...
@@toddinthemiddle😂
@@toddinthemiddleFor what?
If anything, movies such as Bambi teaches empathy, humanity, love etc. The very thing the wokies pretend to champion.
Its a bloody cartoon!😅
Saying our society has evolved past hardship and loss (e.g. Bambi's mother dying) is ridiculous and it's clear that Ernest doesn't live where most of us do.
He should say the same thing about black issues left in the past
I cried when bambis mom died.
My moms response? Be a fucking man!
I thank her to this day.
When Piers said “Bambi’s mom is dead! Wake up!” I literally laughed out loud at work
my 4 year old son watched my Dad get very ill and die over a 4 month period as we live with my parents. It was very hard for us all, but it is the reality of life. Bubble wrapping children and giving them misinformation about genders is far more harmful than real life imo
100% correct
Ernest is the reason why are kids are growing up insane
Kids learn empathy from seeing these sort of scenes from cartoons, they're supposed to feel the feels. If we try to protect kids from films like Bambi were going to end up with a bunch of sociopaths running around the place
You don't learn empathy the same way you don't learn arousal. It's hardwired into you.
But yes it is probably healthy to exercise these emotions in safe ways so we can have better command of them.
It is all really just a form of emotional training and or manipulation to make children how they want them to be. It places feelings in vulnerable children. They do it to adults too with music and movies. The name of the game is controlling emotions and pleasures in people, and especially reinforcing the idea that life is inherently going to involve terrible things ... when the whole point of civilization is to mitigate those things.
probably that is their aim
I thought you can learn empty without watching movies.
I agree. We live in a society where death isn’t rampant, our towns aren’t pillaged, our people aren’t slaughtered by invaders, etc. so kids don’t (typically) see death first hand or really experience much tragedy. A cartoon is a simple way to get a small dose of exposure to tragedy where you can talk to them about their feelings.
They best not ruin Bambi it’s a literal golden classic. Beautiful film, beautiful story, beautiful music. Can’t they just like… not bother with all the nonsense this time? 😩
Why can't they write new classics on their own theme. Why do they have to corrupt others peoples work. Why not just leave them on the shelf.
Havent you heard about the Top Gear Remake? Jeremy is a body positive obese woman, richard is a non binary trans man and james is a pan sexual rainbow brite who goes by 'xi/xer' pronouns. And people wonder why modern tv is in the fucking toilet...
I love Tomi, that woman always speaks facts! So, children should not learn about death and loss?
Imagine raising kids that life is happiness and rainbows and they grew up to realize life is the opposite. Sick and weak generation in the making.
@@tenorio295 The extreme liberals kids will get a rude awakening when they learn how the world really works where nobody holds your hand or gives you second chances at a job. They say no to violence on screen but yes to showing gay sex in a parade in front of them? I really wanted to punch Ernest in the face when he was talking! He is not raised well.
@@tenorio295absolutely correct
@@Malayalikadayou are both wrong. Focusing on one or the other and brainwashing children, forcing them to be aware of things they do not have the ability to understand, like death and carnage is as idiotic as it gets. Children should be taught little by little that which adds up to them eventually being able to ask their own questions and find their own answers from books written by people who actually have good intentions for humanity.
@@MalayalikadaHere, little Johnny, take a good look at this dead corpse! This is the reality! Better get used to it you little snowflake!
Oh?
I felt the Bambi scene teaches kids empathy and compassion. They invested in Bambi to live, and grow. Ignore the perpetually offended….please! Enough now.
I remember my mother took me to see bambi. It was an anniversary release. Snow white and then bambi. I was around 4 .
I remember when bambis mother died , that was the first moment I realised my mother could and one day would die , I was very upset and cried. Yet by the time the movie was over, I was starting to feel better.
And I had a wonderful talk with my mother when she put me to bed that night.decades later, I still remember it. .it's essential for the movie.
A movie that doesn't require a remake
“ for starters I’m gay”
No shit, we could tell
Exactly Sherlock
Gay and black the only things that make his empty existence feel important.
Yeah, he didn't need to self-identify, it was clear upon first observance Earnest's a homosexual.
He speaks like how I would expect a gay character to speak on South Park lmao. A living stereotype.
I'm glad he told me 😮
I cried my young face out when Bambi's mom died.
Same when Mufasa died.
And I still sang along happily to Timon and Pumba's Hakuna Matata.
Imagine that, movies that actually allowed me to experience a whole range of HUMAN emotions in a safe way, that actually helped prepare me for the hardships (a lot of them) of adult real world life.
Littlefoot’s mother dies. In newer films, Arlo’s father dies. The Ice Age baby’s mother dies. Nothing has changed there.
@@eoinoconnor5783 which is why there's no sense in changing existing stories. let them live in their current state. make new happy ones, or new sad ones, or new whatever you feel like ones.
just. new. ones. stop remaking stuff.
As a child Bereavement Practitioner, this is such a backwards move! You can't protect children from death... hiding it from them is so dangerous in practice! Very disappointing 😞
I grew up watching the first Land Before Time. It was one of my favorite animated films and I wasn't traumatized by it. The main character loses their parent from a Tyrannosaurus attack, and she dies in front of him. I also watched Bambi as well. We need to stop raising weak people who need to be sheltered from reality.
An amazing film kids learn values from these films that they take into adult hood
well said
I was traumatized and confused by so many movies and forms of 'art' as a child. Almost all of it is brainwashing and training, and manufactured by people who know exactly what they are doing.
Oh I loved Land Before Time. I was a teacher + we were studying dinosaurs - year 4, so part of our learning I brought the DVD in (that shows you there era 😂). Anyway, I had just started dating my now husband, then boyfriend + it was our 4th date night. He came over to my parents home + I wanted to watch the movie to make sure it was what I wanted for my class. He was a bit perplexed at first. We were 24. Nonetheless, he sat watching it with me. He adored it. Years later, I'd come home and find him watching it by himself 😊
I was thinking of that! I was 6 when I watched it, and to date, my siblings and I sing "don't lose your way..." when we get together, since we live continents apart as adults. The movie was poignant, and I'm so glad we grew up with such beautifully woven stories.
I'm 32 years of age and I survived Bambi's mum's death as a kid, mufasa's death as a kid and when Todd got abandoned in the forest. The moral of the story is, I grew up absolutely fine and learned empathy and emotions from my own parents through films, it's how parents treat and nurture your child through films like this not just simply push it aside and ignore just as much to be lazy and not properly teach your children and guide them.
I’m 53 and also a survivor 😂
I love Tod and Copper. I admit I have, Lady and the Tramp, The Parent Trap, Old Yeller, and Tod and Copper in my DVD library. The first three are from my childhood in the 60's.
Ernest Owens: "there's nothing wrong with me" hmm obviously a matter of opinion.
Exactly
Ernest is delusional
@@gregpavitt309methinks he protests too much!
The jacket says otherwise.
Ridiculous!! Why not just make a new movie about a baby deer and leave Bambi be! What a sensitive generation🤦♀️
As kid who lost their dad at 9 years old, these movies were part of what helped me process grief. Little foot in the Land Before Time was another one. So these movies you’re changing are robbing a kid who really needs them to cope with death.
Exactly. Simba overcame fear and guilt and became a strong brave king after Mufasa died.
I know these films aren’t that old, but in “The Good Dinosaur” Arlo became a stronger, braver son after losing his dad, in “Barnyard” Otis became a strong, brave leader after Ben was killed by Coyotes.
Are they next gonna bring back Batman’s parents? Or Harry Potter’s parents? Are Anakin and Padmé gonna raise Luke and Leia together?
Going back to Disney/ animated films. If anything, films like that encourage people to become better and stronger for the sake of their late beloved parents.
Still having Ava Evans on after all she's said and done while condemning others is a joke and a slap in the face of everybody who has lost a friend, husband, son etc. to suicide, to every man whose mental health is soul destroying and to every man falsely accused of horrible things.
Ava can rot in hell
Guarantee they will make Flower the Skunk gay or trans.
Bound to. Just wait.
Why isn't Ava cancelled for her sneering at male suicide?
@@davidclark7233 because feminism is the supremacist view we are supposed to ignore.
they, she, are pretty open. mens lives have no value. so suicide pah who cares. the feminist maths is= females suffer more=female isse, males suffer more =deal with it as if females suffer more. so covid/cancer/murder/suicide/homelessness/acid attacks/even war all issues where you are not just more likely to be effected as a male but far far more are portrayed as 'women are suffering'.
once youve decided mens actual lives are valueless then merely destroing one through false accusations, and the demands for a kkk style believe preferred class' justice system, is no big deal.
piers siding with an open supremacist by not having the spine to bin her, but then he was always a pompous fraud rather than the big tough guy debate 'ill call it' guy he wants us to think....
The thing is without such things being known to kids, imagine their trauma when it actually happens and not understand what death is.
It’s insensitive to assume Bambi’s mum’s gender
How dare you call them "Bambi's Mum"?! That's "Bambi's Birthing Parent"!
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@TheWorstWarlock how dare you assume they want to be a parent. You should call them Bambi's birthing person
@@l0wk3y10how dare you deadname Bambi?!
@@leech1355lmao this nonsense is endless
This man is what is wrong with this planet now,
Spot on there .
this is a kid look how he cant even hold a proper discussion without pouting or making faces
Disney's original "Bambi" is a great film and should not be changed for anyone's warped sense of reality. I remember watching it when I was 11 years old at the movie theatre with my brother and watching his mom get killed was a fact of reality, especially deer! Deer get shot! People hunt during deer season. It is a fact of life and it was a great lesson. I was a very sensitive boy and still am as a 57 year old adult and was NOT traumatized by this film at all! The whole story revolved around Bambi having a support "family" with Thumper and that gave us children a feeling of security! I haven't seen this film in over 40 years, but remember that and I felt great leaving the theatre! The story was part of life. Again, society is handling and controlling kids again and should not. Leave them alone. They need guidance from their parents, not the cinema!
What about the kids dealing with losing their mother?
Exactly! I believe it teaches kids to feel empathy and compassion for others. It certainly never hurt anyone I know. My own kids watched it. They were sad and tbh, I was glad to see them feeling compassion for Bambi. It certainly didn’t cause any PTSD. Both are in the military now lol.
Ernest entire personality is “I’m super gay” and that’s it
SO FABULOUS😂
Also ✊🏿
He is like a living South Park character. Him saying he is gay is like saying that water is wet.
When i was a child, kojack out of tarzan died and i cried, in lion king when mustafa died i cried but guess what, within 5-10 minutes i got over it, wokeness and all this "being considerate to others" will get us nowhere, creativity is supressed enough as it is.
Yeah and this wokeness supposed to be considered for everyone, well they are suppressing 95% of population for few people who feel really entitled like being sun and everyone and everything have to spin around them and we all have to embrace it and shout bravoooo.
It’s sad and stupid really. Stop grooming kids in to useless stupid entitled society.
How will world work in 20 years? After they groom whole generation? Who will do work? How does that come someone get away with Murdering or raping his own dother because of his ethnicity and someone who is working paying taxes and being ordinary person is being dragged to court and to prison for misgendering and because says own opinion. Whose feelings are about to be said and who’s feeling are punishable for being said. Who the f..k is deciding this?
Free world, what a bullshit.
Exactly
Guarantee they will make Flower the Skunk gay or trans.
@@squeekyclean1644 or anything else
We now have a huge mental health problem, that’s the problem 100%
100% correct.
Real life isn’t an episode of fantasy island.
Emotional vs physical reality have the same outcome:death
Nothing wrong with seeing someone die in a cartoon it prepares you for what it is or will be like, its a sad reality that we all must face at some point.
It helps them gain a sense of empathy and understanding.
Big Hero 6 and Find Nemo which were released a lot more recently than Bambi has death in it and that adds to the emotion and story of the movie.
Bambi and Dumbo give children fear that they or their parents will be murdered or they will be kidnapped. An example of a cartoon that shows a "natural" progression of life being death would be Charlotte's Web.
"There is alot of grotesqueness..."
Yea, the whole woke insanity is grotesque
Snoring is a better term
When she says the dreaded words “ Modern Audiences “ it’s time to get scared.
"evolved"
Like it was a natural process and not the work of indoctrination.
Why do they not write their own stuff? They just cannot be original!
Killing classics? BS
Once again, Esther and Tomi doing wonderful jobs
Creating a society of weak people one child at a time
Man, Disney just love losing money
I watched the movie for the first time back in 1994 when I was 10 and there was nothing to Bambi's mothers death. You hear a gun shot and that's it. I thought nothing of it, It wasn't traumatizing.
Now I'm a father I showed the movie to my son a few years ago when he was 5. He thought nothing of that scene too. It didn't upset him, we watched it to the end and infact he thought the whole movie was boring.
I think what Woke Disney is gonna do is later in the movie when Bambi grows up they're gonna make Bambi gay, Thumper will become non binary and Flower will become a transgender!
And so what? Just because it was made one way and you liked it means it can never be made with different kind of characters? Have you read the Grimm tales, which have been adapted to these modern "fairy" tales with happy endings? Is that a betrayal too that will cause UK's great culture to be destroyed and white people to be hunted and the world to end? 🙄
I was hit emotionally but more because of the after scenes with Bambi alone and the tragic music. It is the absolute horror scenario for every child loosing its mum. But experincing strong emotions is not traumatsing.
You must be sociopath 🤣😭
Nearly all childrens films have a parent dye in the first scene, that was part of the previous programming of our generations to desensitise us to death.
I definitely wont agree with any woke remake either but there are theories about how old disney films had weird subliminals.
This debate is a weird cos the people who are supporting "Disney Classics" dont even like disney and think their satanic already. Why are we surprised disney is making more weird shit? Theyve been doing it all along.
@@mkadam1 The other way around. It has been made to push extra for emphatic emotions to create drama and not to desensitise. What has been made to desensitise are specific ego shooter computer games. Similar are used in military training.
I sick and tired of people being “Triggered”. Why do people have to confirm their security? Go a pair already.
This is what’s wrong with letting women have leadership roles. They are followers and should follow the reason and logic of men.
Label any change as woke and Ernest will be 100% behind it. He'll always come up with a reason to support it.
He's a gay black man, without woke he'd not make any money and have nothing to define his existence.
3:19 Tommy 's talking about the remake of Bambi "'maybe the mother died of climate change". That was priceless!!
I read the Bambi novel by Felix Salten when I was 8. That book was far more graphic and yet I was able to move on from it just fine. It seems that many just don't see the whole of that scene. It not only taught children about death and finding the strength to live on, but it also showed the power of self sacrifice and the most intimate value of pure love.
I loathe the "I'm okay" arguments because it's anecdotal evidence proving nothing.
@@emilevanrensburg8094 Lol, I'm definitely not "OK" but as a child who adored animals it was something that I understood happens. Just like I never damned the lion for killing the buffalo to feed her cubs on Wild Kingdom. Sometimes children can understand the truth in the world far better if they aren't influenced by agenda.
In Norway kindergarden kids learn and see by them self how we get food. Hunting and fiishing are a natural thing.
"We are in a different world now..."
Wow that sentence says a lot. Its the same world as it has always been. Survival of the fittest. We just live in a time where the weak are allowed to live.
Thank you Piers!
Not only is there nothing wrong with showing death in cartoons, it's crucial to do so. It provides an opportunity to discuss death where there is some emotional attachment but it is still a made up story. That is a gentle way of teaching children about death caused by someone else.
Taking every bit of resilience out of childrens upbringing is devestaing. That's probably one reason the phenomenon of "safe spaces" have explored.
I wish I could like this a hundred times! Yes, all of the fairy tales and fables are there for a reason! They teach lessons vicariously so you can learn something about human experience without having to experience it yourself. These libtards are ruining everything.
A few generations including myself a millennial grew up watching films like Bambi that touched complex subjects we are doing and have been doing absolutely fine!!!!
Kids are growing up inside a bubble and unaware of reality and when the time comes for them to face reality they end up like Earnest, confused easily offended entitled lost brats.
I think the debate would have been stronger had they really focused on the fact that there are life lessons to learn from those movies. Movies like Bambi, The Land Before Time, or The Fox and the Hound showed their heroes experiencing things like the death of a loved one and learning how to continue on and flourish. The Land Before Time had Littlefoot lose his mother, grieve her, and discover that he could still remember what she had taught him and survive. Bambi did the same. Those lessons were basically the point and they're more valuable than a simplified, cute tale about a happy deer living in the woods with his friends would be. That's a totally different story. I would worry that keeping children so sheltered that they never have to consider those ideas until they've experienced a personal loss in real life would leave them more likely to struggle with the concept of loss. It's good to be able to present children with the complexities of life with stories because it helps them examine the ideas within those stories and the emotions they bring up. The current obsession with censoring such things, I fear, keeps us all in a position where we're forced to treat normal human emotions (such as sadness) as "traumatic." That's not healthy.
Bambi is the reason why thousands of people joined animal rights organizations, or became vegetarian, or just became more conscious to treat animals more humanely. It's a learning experience. It helps people to shape their beliefs and values. And they want to erase those moments so that some don't get sad from it? Are they really that short sighted?
They talk about being inclusive, but they are excluding the kids that actually go through that difficult situation. Makes no sense
Well said! By showing children the reality of many children's mothers being k!lled, they can develop empathy for them *AND* for animals.
Also, how is Tomi's take on this homophobic and transphobic? He's just playing the rainbow card- he has no sound arguments.
She kept it a 100👏👏
I’m 100% okay with these silly films. Disney has lost a billion dollars at the box office. Snow White is gonna lose 100 million. Let’s keep the party going! Keep losing money, Disney!
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/grabs popcorn
Guarantee they will make Flower the Skunk gay or trans.
As someone who leaned left up to just a couple of years ago, I'm appalled at where the left is now. It's mortifyingly embarrassing. And I can't even deal with the far right. Brutal.
Ikr? I don't feel a part of this society any more.
Hopefully you don’t consider exercise as a far right ideology. Because what the modern left labels as far right is absurd.
People have GOT to toughen up. This is not healthy.
Omg i cant believe what is going on! & the discussions that have to be had because of this whole woke generation... I cant deal 😤. Its pure crazy. When does it stop??
I experienced my first death of a close family member aged 4 and then again at 6. Films like Bambi made me feel more normal tbh
Was your family member murdered? I think this is a better way to teach that lesson:
ruclips.net/video/gxlj4Tk83xQ/видео.html
They are taking away all the great lessons on life and mortality that children got from these wonderful classics. It’s heartbreaking.
Spot on Tomi
I often don't agree with Tomi, but this time I do😅
Tomi is a clown
Maybe the problems amongst youth stem more from chemically imbalanced parents than films that present serious content
Holy moly Earnest!🤦🏻♀️
Completely out of touch with reality 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I'm with you on this Piers. I thought I was liberal until things changed... now I am most definitely on the side of the conservatives! The world is going mad!!
Same here, it’s crazy how the left has ruined that thought!
Conservatives are more rational and reasonable.
Me too, the made up genders, demand for race guilt and whacko 3rd wave feminism did that.
I cried at bambi, I cried at the lion king & I cried at the land before time. I still do as an adult, but scenes like those teach kids about empathy. We need to stop with this nonsense of being over sensitive & pushing that on others. There's nothing wrong with having a good cry at a movie.
Disneys best tear jerking scene is in Up 😭😭
@MC-nb6jx Oh God, I forgot about that one 😭
@@amandaochampaugh9887 … Gets me every single time I watch it..
"well theres nothing wrong with me" first words out of his mouth were a lie and it was down hill from there
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For god sake what is wrong people you don't see anything in bambi's mother's death i was watching predator back in the 80's when i was 10 years old these days society is full of over sensitive pansy's.
Bambi’s mum being killed actually teaches kids compassion and empathy 😉
They want kids living in a bubble and to grow up thinking life is all roses and when real life hits them they’re unprepared mentally and just crash.
Disney has always drawn on emotions, changing things to suit the sensibilities of the woke idiots is damaging to society.
In sports you play to win that's the whole idea of sports
EVERYTHING Tomi Lahren says I ALWAYS agree with!!! She is very good with what she says and I couldnt agree with her more!!!
If I had kids , I would show all the originals , watership down ( traumatic ). Bambi (I cried for day ) … I wasn’t affected ….
You were affected. Such things helped you become a well rounded, balanced human, able to deal with life's ups as well as the downs.
If kids are being sheltered from seeing a cartoon deer die, just imagine how well they are going to be able to cope when someone in real life actually dies! No wonder kids are always upset and riddled with anxiety nowadays. Cotton wool does not belong wrapped around children :(
The black guy on the right is actually so arrogant the faces he makes when someone is talking tell you all and he was itching to tell everyone he was gay although it is nothing to do with the argument ...
I have to say I'm really enjoying the new show Piers, real conversations with people who you aren't afraid to disagree with. Keep it going 👍
Death is part of life …. So are we going to lie about that to our kids ?? 😂 please somebody help us… what is going on… this is so scary….
Of course that dude has a problem with it, he’s probably scared of his own shadow🤣
Facts! Lmao! 🤣🤣
"For starters, I'm gay".........no really?!
We know you're good at identifying gays.
It’s his entire personality
Bambi was/is a classic. I'm not going to lie, I am still scarred by Bambi's mother's death. I can remember crying my eyes out as a child watching that. But I don't think it hurt me over all or traumatized me. Although maybe it did lol 😆 Same with Mufasa's death. I'm still so tired of their "remakes" - "stop remaking" things that are classics and ruining them in the midst of it - just MAKE something.
Ernest is a smug one isn't he?
Then don't watch it if you get triggered. Watch something you can handle.
That man on the panel does not represent us black men at all.
"Society evolves" he saying 😂... To me it looks the opposite way.
Evolution doesn't imply improving, just adaptation
@@joshuataylor3550 Its the peoples choice to decide to "adapt" to every liberal woke stupid idea that they create from 1 day to another, but leave children out of it.
Yeah, that person is a genius with all the flops Disney’s had at the cinema 😅
Bring back the days when our parents were ok with us kids building a billy cart out of scrap, racing them down the nearest steep tar road without a helmet and seatbelt, getting to the end and realising it would be a good idea to fashion a break lol. Apart from walking in circles when the microwave is turned on, we turned out fine hahahhaha. Joking but we turned out fine and eager to try anything without fear. Just as nature intended.
Tell him to go read a modern "childrens" book
There’s a lots of kids lose a parent when they are very young those kind of animations it’s literally made for such a child so they could relate that they could see that it’s not only happening with them and see Bambi going through it I’m not sure why people think tragedy is not part of life, and they need to protect this new generation from it when it’s going to be so horrible for them when it starts happening all at once to them other than that people don’t give children enough credit the reason why learning starts so young because children could separate themselves from whatever they are seeing they didn’t develop enough empathy to extremely be involved in a situation so, even if it made them sad. It wouldn’t stick with them. Two minutes after this movie ends they will forget they even seen it but they will have the lesson that some people may lose their parents very young even if it didn’t happen to them maybe it will have it happened to a friend so they will have the tool to deal with this so this week demented gross society that they are trying to build. It’s horrifying to me honestly
Disney needs to understand that in 2023 most children see violence in their home between family members. I think that Woke is attacking the cartoon because it has family values, respect and love in it. Woke people hate real loving families and happiness.
Thank you lady! Woke Disney should write their own stories and leave classic stories alone. It is not their work. Disney is destroying our children.
Kids who don't learn to deal with emotions as children will not be able to control them as adults.
Kids play Call of Duty and GTA which has way more killings and theyre worried about Bambi's mom scene😂😂😂
Exactly right Tommi
They want to remove this scene, yet teach their kids that it's ok to kill their babies.
Yes, it was absolutely appalling and distressing to me as a child when the illustrator stopped drawing Bambi’s mother!!!!!! 🥴🥴😅😅
How are they gonna make Bambi more appropriate for kids these days to find relatable?! Is Bambi’s dad gonna suffer an opiate OD & her mom try feeding her puberty blockers?
Who is this amazingly based woman?
Tommi lahren I think is her name
You know some of us kids had dead moms already and we were able to relate to this story. Now I will add a funny thing. My sister fast forwarded the mom dying for my nephew and he has grown up to enjoy hunting
Who remembers Phebie in friend when she found out about the end of Bambi😂