BIG Update DC20 Alpha 0.5 Changelog

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @OneShotQuesters
    @OneShotQuesters 11 месяцев назад +30

    Awww thanks for the support!! Loving DC20! Excited to jump into 0.5! ❤

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +3

      Hey! There's the man! LOVING your DC20 Content... still kinda crazy to even be saying that lol

  • @EnterThePocketDimension
    @EnterThePocketDimension 11 месяцев назад +30

    As much fun as we've had with 0.4, we know the party is only getting started with the 0.5. Can't WAIT to dig in. Hype! Hype! Hype! 💜

  • @JottoHearthStone
    @JottoHearthStone 11 месяцев назад +40

    Feedback for 0.5:
    Weapon changes are great, looking forward to it,
    DR being applicable to mental too is great,
    Heavy Armour was also noted by our group to be really, really strong, so glad that's been nerfed a tad, to be honest, might being so strong and DR being so strong, maybe the down to just +1 is a good idea but we'll see.
    Two main things the are racking me with DC20, that seem to be remaining in 0.5
    First is the initiative check system, we actually dropped it completely and just use Awareness now, it was confusing, taking too long and causing arguments.
    Second is manoeuvres, put simply, getting all of them at level 1 is too much information, it's like playing a spell caster with all spell prepared all the time. We reduced this to you have a number = CM+Prime, so 4 at level 1 (switchable on full rest if needed), and everyone preferred this, including the players of martial characters. Basically, as written in 0.4/0.5 it made every martial character feel too similar since 80% of their abilities were the same, and it increased the barrier to entry massively, whilst also giving people decision paralysis in combat.
    We ran 2 sessions of 0.4 with all manoeuvres and we had people either just choosing to only use 1 or 2, or in session 2, avoiding martial characters completely since you already get a lot of features at level 1 compared to other systems.
    Anyway, aside from the two specific things noted above, looking forward to trying the new changes and continuing with testing this further :)

    • @Yellowninja7
      @Yellowninja7 11 месяцев назад +7

      This is some great feedback. I haven't had time to playtest dc20 yet but I agree with these points

    • @fanboykc9140
      @fanboykc9140 11 месяцев назад +7

      Coach will likely get back to you, but these issues have been brought up and are being looked into.
      I can see how maneuvers appear daunting. I personally just chose 3-4 I was most likely to use. No extra rules or mechanics necessary.
      There was a huge conversation and a survey for Metalic Dragon Patrons regarding initiative. I may suggest to Coach having Awareness be the base option and the Skill Check version be an alternative for Advanced tables.
      Great input! Thanks!

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +22

      I love this feedback! Also beacuse BOTH of these issues are on the docket for 0.6 and under review 100%. Glad to see I am targeting things that are legitimate areas for lots of people :)

  • @Jdomz97
    @Jdomz97 11 месяцев назад +10

    Since you mentioned multiclassing and stamina regeneration so much in this video, this feels like as good a place as any for this question. If a Spellcaster multiclasses into a Martial class and gets Stamina from the Multiclass Martial Mastery Feature, how do they regain that Stamina? I dont see it mentioned in the feature. Do they get Stamina back in the same method that the class they multiclassed into regains it (eg. Maneuvers for Fighter, Heavy Hits for Barbarian, etc.) or are they limited to the universal Stamina regeneration methods, like converting 2 AP to 1 SP, or just regaining it out of combat? Thanks so much, having a lot of fun with DC20!

  • @AlexanderBaird
    @AlexanderBaird 11 месяцев назад +3

    I jumped on the 0.4 Alpha in early November from Treantmonk’s video and have been loving these video updates! I have a long drive Tuesday nights so I could stay tuned for the whole live stream every week.
    I’m so stoked to look through these options and to get a one shot ready during the winter break for my regular table!
    We’re currently playing through PF2e’s Abomination Vaults and loving it, so I’ve been secretly converting that adventure to DC20 rules as I go so we might be able to speed run some of the highlights after we finish using DC20 mechanics

  • @louis1372
    @louis1372 11 месяцев назад +3

    Nice Christmas gift 🎁 Thanks for your work!

  • @rohanv18
    @rohanv18 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love 0.5 cant wait for 0.6 🎉❤ . Just so exiting . Lvl 3 to 5 most awaited

  • @killianduggan8730
    @killianduggan8730 11 месяцев назад +1

    Loving all the options for the Lineage system! Time to rope in all my friends to try it out.
    Also a small detail but your PDFs are an absolute joy to navigate. Very well optimized and properly linked throughout, much appreciated!

  • @nathanaelthomas9243
    @nathanaelthomas9243 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Allen, love what you’re doing with DC20 and excited to see it coming along! One thought I had while listening to the video is that the longbow could feel more unique vs the crossbow and I think it’s a little too powerful when compared to the crossbow as most of the time, a ranged character is going to be making attacks at 10ft away or greater. What if the bow allowed you to spend an additional action point to draw the bow back further and take your time with your aim to add advantage and more damage or something like that? Also, a ridiculous fantasy trope is the multiple arrows shot at a time and perhaps a bow could do that at closer ranges? Lastly, I think adding different types of arrow heads is always something that sounds super fun, but I haven’t seen fleshed out much before. I could imagine blunt arrows for staggering effects, barbed arrows for disadvantage or slowed effects, poison arrows, exploding arrows, homing arrows, and magical elemental arrows. I’m sure there is more you could come up with if that idea sounds cool to you. Anyways, super excited to use the finished product and best of luck with all the hard work ahead of you, you’re doing a great job! 👍🏻

    • @Tysto
      @Tysto 11 месяцев назад

      It would be pretty cool to give archers a choice, but I would keep it to bodkin, which gives +1 to hit, and broad arrow, which gives +1 to damage. But magic arrows of all sorts should be common: flame, freeze, lightning, knockdown, etc.

    • @socialrooster1320
      @socialrooster1320 11 месяцев назад +1

      I believe it says ten SPACES. Each space is worth about 5 feet, so it's more like 50+ feet away to use the bow's ability.

  • @Invader_Rin13
    @Invader_Rin13 11 месяцев назад +7

    19:20 Speaking of shields, do shields have any unique effects or traits that you can do with them like the weapons? Cause one of my favorite rules I found for my 5e games is sacrificing a shield on a critical hit against you to negate the critical hit.

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +6

      Currently no, Martials have a LOT of nice things right now, so I am focusing on ranged martials and spellcasters currently, but I do have ideas and notes for that :)

    • @AlexanderBaird
      @AlexanderBaird 11 месяцев назад +4

      That sounds like it could be a great use for a Talent feature!

  • @tabletophoenix
    @tabletophoenix 11 месяцев назад +1

    Psionic Jump... AK is gonna love that.

  • @olivierhuet9860
    @olivierhuet9860 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just finished reading ancestry traits. They are awesome. I love the flavor you gave all ancestries and the flexibility of having expanded traits is great.

  • @nadirku
    @nadirku 11 месяцев назад +5

    There seems to be a suspicious lack of a "tree people" ancestry given a certain one shot... ^_^

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +5

      hahahah they will be making an appearance in a future update! lol! poor tree poeple!

  • @pjenner79
    @pjenner79 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wooot woot! Haven’t had a chance to go over my copy yet but can’t wait to dig in

  • @brahmdorst5154
    @brahmdorst5154 11 месяцев назад

    I bought the Alpha test to support your project. Idea 💡
    Physical saves use the better of might or agility.
    Mental saves use the better of intelligence or charismas.
    💡 Why stop there?
    How about willpower saves being resisted by might or charisma?
    Reflex saves resisted by best of intelligence or agility?
    One thing about D&D that never felt right was how wisdom based fear checks meant that bookish characters were more courageous than martial characters. Also A greater variety of saves opens up a greater variety of unique spells.

  • @boldnotbald3705
    @boldnotbald3705 11 месяцев назад

    Congratulations on 0.5!! So excited to dive in!!

  • @DarkDefender1024
    @DarkDefender1024 11 месяцев назад

    You had me at "Angelborn." Goodness gracious.

  • @alexc007
    @alexc007 11 месяцев назад +1

    Looking forward to playing 0.5! I was supposed to do The Hunted one shot with friends during 0.4 but the get-together got postponed. Looking forward to playing it in 0.5!

  • @mjboyle691
    @mjboyle691 11 месяцев назад

    I just found this channel and got a hold of the DC20 alpha. I was a bit skeptical, thinking it was one of a now host of games that are basically tweaks to 5e. I was wrong--this is genuinely innovative and interesting. I'm on board.

  • @petergtzsche8019
    @petergtzsche8019 11 месяцев назад +1

    DC 20 is looking amazing!

  • @smugjester7780
    @smugjester7780 11 месяцев назад

    Weapon balancing thoughts: daggers/1 dmg weapons allowing 2 strikes for 2ap starting at 1st level. Then 3 strikes if you have dual weapon fighting. 2dmg weapons 2/2 with dual weapon fighting. Then having the 4dmg weapons being 1 strikes for 2ap. I think this will increase the appeal for rogues using daggers because you have extra chances to get heavy and brutal strikes.

  • @BIGBENMACDOUCE
    @BIGBENMACDOUCE 11 месяцев назад

    Ancestrys 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌 super nice concept. It is juste tacking pc creation to a new level for me ! Great job. Can’t wait for the subclasses

  • @abjak2026
    @abjak2026 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Coach! These changes seem really great, and DC20 has been propelled to the top of my “most excited new ttrpgs” list. I do have a question as someone that is a forever GM, can you say anything about how you intend to make the game easier to run as a GM compared to something like 5e? Are monsters going to be easier to balance and have a challenge rating that is accurate? Are monster building guidelines going to be simple to understand?
    I think you’re doing something really awesome here. Just a raw refinement of all d20 fantasy games before you, and I love it so far.

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +2

      I will 100% say DC20 is easier to run (for too many reasons to get into in the comments section) but monsters will be SO easy to both tweak and create!

    • @abjak2026
      @abjak2026 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheDungeonCoach wow thank you for the response! This makes me even more excited! I love making my own monsters so that’s a really big deal to me. I just watched the full Q&A livestream and your energy and passion for the game is infectious, and I know this is going to be a fantastic release.

  • @fanboykc9140
    @fanboykc9140 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video Coach! Can't wait to dive into the doc!

  • @TheOxxido
    @TheOxxido 11 месяцев назад +5

    Sword maneuver in 0.5 is unchanged. This is probably an oversight.

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +5

      NOOOOOOOO!!! I just updated it in the doc... it will be fixed in the next one for sure!

  • @galaxyfoxnightsky2042
    @galaxyfoxnightsky2042 11 месяцев назад

    O.6 Hype woow
    Thank you for the psion update as somane who played one for 20+ hours i am soo happy with them
    Love the spice on the cleric as well
    Coach this is a amazimg update its soo good that i alredy want more looking forward too new clases and more encesteries untill then ill be playing dc20 thank you for all the work and love you put in this game ❤
    Also maby instead of considering lowering havy armor too plus 1pd maby you could consider buffing light armor too 2pd

  • @Tysto
    @Tysto 11 месяцев назад

    Don't forget that if a dagger does 1 damage and a heavy weapon does 4, that's 4x the dagger. BUT if the dagger does 2 damage and the heavy weapon does 5, that only 2.5x the damage. You'd need to raise HP slightly all around, but it could solve lopsidedness. It works for spell points too: if a 1st-level spell costs 2 points and a 4th-level spell costs 5, then you can't trade a 4th-level spell for 4 1st-level spells. (Casting a spell costs 1 point for "investment" plus the level of the spell.)

  • @Duskbreaker1780
    @Duskbreaker1780 11 месяцев назад

    Can't wait to get level 3 to be released!

  • @PHJcz
    @PHJcz 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you Coach. Great stuff in this Changelog video. 👍🏻

  • @Commodore468
    @Commodore468 11 месяцев назад

    I haven’t playtest yet but it seems like taking a talent from a spell caster as a martial or vice versa gives you so much more than a talent as a martial from a martial or from a caster as a caster you get the talent and nothing else but you get a bunch else when getting a talent from the opposite. I could be wrong since I haven’t played but it seems odd

  • @i.LoveNox
    @i.LoveNox 11 месяцев назад +2

    Is the changelog going to get its own webpage somewhere/is it a separate page on the new pdf? I printed out the 0.4 and just putting a sticker and writing in the errata would be way easier for me

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад

      The changelog is attached to the public patron post I made, and its in the back of the new 0.5 PDF :)

  • @KentaQiric
    @KentaQiric 11 месяцев назад +3

    🎉🎉🎉

  • @thecompletejake
    @thecompletejake 11 месяцев назад +1

    The prime variant is cool but it naturally disadvantages the players who opt to do that and I don't think that is mitigated by the flexibility. Could there be something added to the "pro" column for sacrificing having your prime as high as it otherwise could be?

  • @allstatejake
    @allstatejake 11 месяцев назад

    My guys all loved the Alpha we tested out and we were excited to try out the .5. Waiting for the project to go into a backer status so we could go in on it! If we already bought the .4 when should we expect the .5 update in our email?

  • @Chris3s
    @Chris3s 11 месяцев назад

    16:28 how about instead just having one weapon that deals damage depending on the distance? Does make more sense to me (more impact at closer range)

  • @Yellowninja7
    @Yellowninja7 11 месяцев назад

    Ancestries are in a really confusing location. Tucked away st the end of the multiclass and prestige section. It could probably be moved to a more obvious spot, i had to do some searching in the pdf to find it.

  • @Reno41194
    @Reno41194 11 месяцев назад +2

    Says no comments, that's not right I see one right here.

  • @Seltaeb_
    @Seltaeb_ 11 месяцев назад +3

    I get one of the points of DC20 is keeping the dice simple, but what are your thoughts on 2d10, or even d8+d12? Puts a little more emphasis on player stats, and less on the dice result. Each +1 means a lot more vs 1d20.
    Also with d8+d12, you get to roll my favorite dice (d12) more, and every set of dice has those two. To roll 2d10, you have to use the percentile dice, or buy two sets of dice.
    Could also open the doors for a whole new style of Advantage, rerolling just one dice, or both. Maybe a potential alt ruleset?
    EDIT: Ive done some math on how the three play out, gonna run an analysis on like... how advantage would work potentially some point in the next few days. Id be happy to send you my findings! Might tickle your mathematics background a bit lol

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +1

      I am always open to feedback on pretty much ALL of the rules in the game. But I will say the one fundamental principal that I cannot see myself chaning is a D20, this system is 100% going to be based on a d20, I can say that much. So I hope that doesnt upset you, but yea math always interests me, and I have crunched a TON on how ADV / DisADV will work stacking up

    • @Seltaeb_
      @Seltaeb_ 11 месяцев назад

      @TheDungeonCoach thats what I figured you'd say, the multiple dice thing has been my latest rabbit hole I've been going down. Super interesting to think about, love the 0.5 changes btw!
      I'm excited to see how the weapons continue toevolve! I'm excited to play around witg stronger base damage for a 4 or 5 stat requirement, it feels so open and easy to homebrew for once you get the hang of the balance. And with how heavy/brutal hits work, you could make a 4 base damage weapon, with a -3 to hit, effectively making it closer to a more inaccurate 3 damage weapon.

  • @Reeper212
    @Reeper212 11 месяцев назад

    Is it possible to get the notion document you are using? I love Notion and how easy it makes accessing things and organizing them much more than a pdf.

  • @Umbra_Canine
    @Umbra_Canine 11 месяцев назад

    I realy would like to give your more feedback and ask some questions. But the normal livestreams are for me i think at 3:00 in the mornig.And the YT Commantary feels not equal. Do you plan a way for giving Feedback/ ask Questions for people who just live in a timezone where is just not rational to watch your QnA Streams ?

  • @ashketchum5670
    @ashketchum5670 11 месяцев назад

    Uhm... 3,1,0,-2 plus 2?
    Maybe I'm missing something but... Isn't it simpler to just say: "Assign a total of 4 points in your Attributes. No Attribute can be higher than 3 or lower than -2. (Any negative point assigned to an Attribute can be used to increase another Attribute by the same amount)"?

  • @garrettaremburg4519
    @garrettaremburg4519 7 месяцев назад

    For the Ranger, as a feat or talent can you gain more favored terrains?

  • @TheYellowMask5421
    @TheYellowMask5421 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is it possible to use the Expert Multiclass talents to gain additional subclass features from your own class?

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +1

      YES!

    • @TheYellowMask5421
      @TheYellowMask5421 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheDungeonCoach That's really cool. Really takes a lot of the FOMO out of the game.

  • @seanbraden8756
    @seanbraden8756 11 месяцев назад

    got the .4 how do you get the .5 pdf update?

  • @wftghw
    @wftghw 11 месяцев назад +1

    Someone might be able to clearifiy this for me, how many weapon maneuvers are available to those who have the feature? or is it all of them? (I will try to catch your next live stream to ask)

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +1

      If you have access to Manuvers you know all Weapon Manuevers, but can only perform them if you are wielding it

    • @wftghw
      @wftghw 11 месяцев назад

      @TheDungeonCoach awesome, Thanks for the response!

  • @Leniathan
    @Leniathan 11 месяцев назад

    💜💜💜

  • @fl4g
    @fl4g 11 месяцев назад

    I just watched treantmonks video and was so intrigued i immediately joined your patreon. Awesome work, can't wait to see more. This is exactly what we need: take what's great about 5e and improve the things that are not. Super hyped!

  • @John-Dennehy
    @John-Dennehy 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is definitely a "me" problem, not a real issue, but I'm so distracted by a little black dot on your nose in this video 😂

    • @TheDungeonCoach
      @TheDungeonCoach  11 месяцев назад +3

      I literally have a makeup pen for exactly these moments... and I still have not unpacked it from the move! You are so right lol!

  • @TheEyesOfTheJEagle
    @TheEyesOfTheJEagle 11 месяцев назад

    I just bought it today and skimmed through it, noticed the +5 on the sword, should that still be there?

    • @TheEyesOfTheJEagle
      @TheEyesOfTheJEagle 11 месяцев назад

      Also I think agility should be your initiative mod. It's way simpler than the current way, also (and more importantly) it fits the fantasy nicely. Quick nimble characters should feel fast

  • @PadanGedowitch
    @PadanGedowitch 11 месяцев назад

    I am curious, are there rules for the two-handed use of all weapons? It's a IRL fact that you can increase the impact of almost every weapon with two hands, roughly by 50%. That goes for daggers, maces, sticks and so on. Only exeption would be flails or other free hanging weapons as they bounce of the target after impact.
    I also hope those X-born names are just placeholders, because they sound bad and lazy. I know that a half angel is called a nephilim, and I believe a half demon is a cambion. And if you don't use the "official" names, please think of something more creative.

  • @christopherbronson3275
    @christopherbronson3275 11 месяцев назад

    So wait, I bought the .4 Alpha, do i get the .5 update free or I gotta pay for it?

    • @galaxyfoxnightsky2042
      @galaxyfoxnightsky2042 11 месяцев назад

      You get 0.5 for free you should have received a mail bit if you log into Coach website and log in you should be abol too get it

    • @christopherbronson3275
      @christopherbronson3275 11 месяцев назад

      @@galaxyfoxnightsky2042 I found it! Thanks!

  • @Umbra_Canine
    @Umbra_Canine 11 месяцев назад

    Consinder you alpha as bougth 😊

  • @MarkoSeldo
    @MarkoSeldo 11 месяцев назад

    Is there a reason there isn't a flat "you cannot jump in heavy armour" rule? Plus a "it takes your full movement/turn to stand up while wearing heavy armour". Because that stuff is a nightmare to move around in. Obviously it'd need huge damage reduction to compensate for that, but it adds some flavour/reasons to wear lighter armour

    • @dking6021
      @dking6021 11 месяцев назад

      This is simply wrong, it's not that heavy actually, about as much as what a soldier now carries and armor plates vs bullets are a lot bigger and they carry more gear.
      Also people literally jump up onto horses@with them.
      Tourney armor is that heavy, and those needed stairs to get on horseback snd such, but that was not Combat armor

  • @ballelort87
    @ballelort87 9 месяцев назад

    The alpha is very pricey😑