Comparing the RTX3090 vs RTX4090 in Microsoft Flight Simulator Triple Display & VR!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @tubeslats
    @tubeslats Год назад +1

    How many monitors can the 3090 support? I want to go triple screen plus two touch panels.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  Год назад

      I ram my 3090 with the 3 4K tvs but I had the TVs in 2k resolution. Comparatively I get about the same fps with a 3090 3x2k vs a 4090 3x4k.

  • @RobertGeez
    @RobertGeez Год назад +1

    Do you have any kind of telemetry based haptic feedback? Great simpit by the way.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  Год назад

      Thanks! The only haptic feedback I have is the "buttkicker" which runs off simshaker for aviatiors. It uses datarefs from the sim to produce proper feedback vs just being driven off of sound.

  • @ERDoc92
    @ERDoc92 Год назад +1

    In VR, is your instrument displays clear? It is very blurry on mine in VR and wondering if upgrading to a 4090 would make it crystal clear

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  Год назад

      The 4090 and the Reverb G2 the instruments are very clear. Not 100% perfect if its smallish fonts your reading but very clear.

  • @domis1190
    @domis1190 2 года назад +1

    Hi, Thanks for the vidéo, what’s your triple monitors ? Best.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      They are three 55" TCL 4k TVs

  • @Ahmedblaser
    @Ahmedblaser 2 года назад +1

    Hello! Thanks for the amazing comparison. Out of curiosity, do you prefer VR or the cockpit setup and why (if not too much to ask :-) )?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      Depends on my mood and the type of flying. If im trying to follow IFR procedures its alot easier to use the cockpit setup. I can access the ipad, brief charts, paper checklists, tune radios ect ALOT easier in the cockpit vs VR. VR flying is super immersive however and I can do IFR there too, however I feel like im fumbling around trying to stay ahead of the aircraft. Thanks for watching!

    • @tomjohansen2083
      @tomjohansen2083 2 года назад

      @@av8rchris I do exactly the same. ifr espacially with airliners is so hard when have to fumbling around and hit buttons in the air in the VR headsets, feel so fake.. . but again nothing beats the immersion in VR when it comes to flying an uncomplicated plane with hotas over montains and valleys.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      @@tomjohansen2083 agree 100%! Closest to the real thing that I've seen for home simulation.

  • @DrTom1946
    @DrTom1946 Год назад

    What is the right screen displaying?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  Год назад

      I’m not sure what you mean? There’s the double “eye” vision from the vr capture and the right screen in the home cockpit is the view out the right of the aircraft.

  • @horscht85
    @horscht85 2 года назад +2

    Hey, did you test DX11 vs DX12 in tripple monitor, because i think DX12 IS BROKEN atm with more than one window. I can get 140fps on high to ultra settings, 5k resolution with one ultrawide screen, but as soon as i add even one more renderwindow the frames tank to 29fps, no matter what settings, even everything on low 1080p. It‘s a shame because frame generation in DX12 mode is the one upgrade that would be useful for a 3-screen setup.
    I get a smooth 39fps in DX11 with 3 monitors, high to ultra settings and 9k vertical resolution but 29fps and brutal bad responsiveness when in DX12 and even turning on frame generation does nothing with more than one renderwindow.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      Interesting - I think Ill run through all the same tests including VR in DX11 and see what the difference is. DX12 has typically been stutter free and smoother overall for me so Ive kinda stuck there and forgotten about DX11 at this point. I'm going to have to give it another go with this card.

  • @gregoriodelgado9457
    @gregoriodelgado9457 2 года назад +1

    What resolution are ur displays at ?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      Currently I'm running them each in 4k.

  • @sfh294
    @sfh294 Год назад +1

    I'm working on a Kodiak sim pit. For mine, I'm using 65" TCL 6000 series tvs driven by a liquid cooled 3090. All TVs running 2160p 30 fps been considering getting a 4090 but for now, I'm done spending. 😅 video coming soon. 🎉

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  Год назад +1

      Awesome cant wait to see it!

  • @Darkoryou
    @Darkoryou 2 года назад +1

    Do an another test with DLSS 3 on!

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      Once the SU11 update drops officially I'm going to give it a go. I had issues when I left the SU10 beta so I'm going to stick with official releases for now. I tried with DLSS(2?) in Su10 and I didnt see any difference at all.

  • @Simracing25
    @Simracing25 Год назад +1

    so sick. I wish I had the 3090. anyway you would sell it?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  Год назад

      Sorry! Was going to repurpose that in another gaming rig. Thanks for watching!

  • @ammarbader3068
    @ammarbader3068 2 года назад +2

    The biggest advantage of the RTX 4090 is the DLSS 3 with Frame Generation. I have seen other reviews where the FPS more than doubled (compared to DLSS 3 is Off). Also, the additional frames you get with DLSS 3 will not show up on the MSFS built-in frame counter, so you need to use a third-party tool to see the actual frame number.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      I have heard about needing the 3rd party tool, Im going to give that a go to see any differences. I will be giving DLSS3 a shot once SU11 releases to see how it works out. Hopefully its everything they say it is!

    • @BeachClub_1
      @BeachClub_1 2 года назад

      @@av8rchris DLSS 3 should help for triple monitor setup but unfortunately is not supported for VR?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      @@BeachClub_1 I think MS/Asobo said they had to do something extra to get it to work properly in VR although I could be wrong.

  • @Ahmedblaser
    @Ahmedblaser 2 года назад +1

    You seem to be limited by CPU... What are your PC specs pls? I have watched all your videos and never saw them.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      I'm running an i9 12900k 32gb ddr 5 ram and everything on a raided nvme set. Def seem to be CPU limited as I recently bumped up from 2k resolution in the cockpit to 4k on all 3 screens. I gained about 4-7 fps depending on the situation. In others FPS is exactly the same.

    • @Ahmedblaser
      @Ahmedblaser 2 года назад

      @@av8rchris Thank you dear! How many FPS to expect on triple 4ks? My 4090 should be here soon (coming from 1080ti)

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      @@Ahmedblaser Your welcome! I'm typically around low 30s on triple screens in 4k. Terrain LOD is 200, most settings are pretty high/ultra. Around NYC FPS can go worse case high 20s but its still pretty smooth overall. In the air Im usually high 30's and in to the 40s.

  • @BeachClub_1
    @BeachClub_1 2 года назад +1

    On average I see an increase of 30-40% in VR. I hoped for 70-80% because of >50% more Cudas and additionally around 30% higher clockspeed.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      Nice! Im seeing about the same. I will say with the 4090 Im now able to crank up the triple display setup from 2k to 4k and it looks so much better. All for the same and sometimes more (which i cant explain) frame rates! I ran some quick tests with CapFrameX, and my low FPS for a lap at LGA in the K100 is around 29 fps. With 2k resolution my low was 26.7. Stutter Percentage went from .21s in 2k resolution 0s in 4k.

  • @WilliamDeanPlumbing
    @WilliamDeanPlumbing 2 года назад +1

    CPU?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      I’m running an i9 12900k with 32gb ddr5.

    • @WilliamDeanPlumbing
      @WilliamDeanPlumbing 2 года назад +1

      @@av8rchris excellent thanks for the reply, I've been seeing plenty of videos showing the 13900k giving a nice little frame jump with the 4090.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      I havent had a chance to see what kind of an increase the 13 series is showing, Ill have to check it out. I'm probably going to hold off as now with DLSS3 im super impressed with how well MSFS runs now. Just from some quick testing I did, my in sim baseline fps was around 50, dlss (measured via msi afterburner) was showing around 120 so around double. I didnt notice any artifacting or anything either!

    • @WilliamDeanPlumbing
      @WilliamDeanPlumbing 2 года назад

      @@av8rchris search RUclips with the phrase 12900 K versus 13,900 k with 4090, there's a couple videos out there seems to be showing anywhere from a 10 to 15 FPS Improvement. Personally I'm waiting for the 13,900ks to be released before building my next rig. Need every ounce of power for DCs Apache module and pimax headset.

  • @TheHangar1
    @TheHangar1 2 года назад +1

    Wow the 4090 looks amazingly smooth in VR as you mentioned. Curious what could be causing the bottleneck for both cards, while in the triple monitor setup? Thanks for posting this comparison... much appreciated!

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      Yep! VR performance is incredible. Im still tinkering to see why the triple monitor isnt as much of an improvement as I thought it would be and why in some cases it actually seems to be worse performance.

    • @UndeadParrot
      @UndeadParrot 2 года назад +2

      ​@@av8rchris I did also some test on 4090 with 4k vs triple 1440p. Even if 3 x 1440 display is around 30 % more pixels to calculate, the frame rate for me was around 25-30 fps compared to around 70-80 fps in New York (with DLSS 3 on but frame generation off).
      Since the multi display setting is under experimental, could it be so that it's just so unoptimized at the moment?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      I was thinking it could be an optimization issue. Then I did a test in XP12 and XP11 and saw similar performance. So its possible its all just CPU bottle necked. Who knows - maybe performance is being left on the table not using an ATX 3.0 PSU? I have a more than capable unit, corsair 1200 watt, but maybe it just doesnt unleash all performance when using that 4 in one combo cable. Im not really in the market to upgrade a PSU (unless I see hard evidence that would do the trick) so Ill just stick with it as is.

    • @seattime4075
      @seattime4075 2 года назад

      Unsure on what your settings are, but I run about 37 FPS on ground 40 + in the air, on triples with 5800X3D and 3080, DX12. Says that it is GPU limited yellow/red (CPU in the green). Use 4K on the front and 2K on the sides - most settings on high a couple on medium - always smooth. Would expect more frames/higher possible settings with a better GPU.

  • @denisbrowm133
    @denisbrowm133 2 года назад

    Not bad but a lot of stutters on the 2side screens

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      I see a few micro stutters here and there but overall it seemed smooth to me. Rather I say as smooth as the 25-30 fps would allow.

  • @PilotDaveAviation
    @PilotDaveAviation 2 года назад +1

    Wow, thanks for doing this comparison Chris! I think I would go with the 4090

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      In VR its night and day difference for sure! Im still tinkering with the triple display to see if I can get a boost in performance.

    • @PilotDaveAviation
      @PilotDaveAviation 2 года назад

      @@av8rchris if you ever have a moment give me a call

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад +1

      @@PilotDaveAviation Will do Dave!

  • @kevinbrook7033
    @kevinbrook7033 2 года назад +1

    Disappointing for such an expensive card, I guess it's just CPU bottlenecking.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      Yea I felt the same. I still fly often enough in VR so theres def some value there, I was just expecting some sort of boost in triple display. For some reason it seems like I take a hit in FPS more than anything. Could just be me but it does feel smoother I guess on the 4090, even for the same frame rates. Im hoping further optimizations/driver updates yield more performance over time.

    • @flightsimcraver2839
      @flightsimcraver2839 2 года назад +1

      @@av8rchris what cpu do you have?

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      Running a i9 12900k with 32GB DDR 5

    • @kevinbrook7033
      @kevinbrook7033 2 года назад

      @@av8rchris shit, I'm on a 3090, 10850k and DDR 4. I've only had my current PC two years and want to get at least three so I might try and hold another year. Intel will probably have the 14900k out then!
      Are you happy with the performance gain though? FPS isn't everything if it reduces frame times and stutter.

    • @av8rchris
      @av8rchris  2 года назад

      Overall I'm happy. It seems pretty smooth overall and VR is night and day! Im sure with driver updates and optimization it'll improve with time. Whats interesting is when I run the TVs in 4k I do get better performance (about 6fps higher), however with my current streaming setup I need to say in 2k for now (long story lol). Ultimately if I find a work around I'll end up bumping up the resolution to 4k across the 3 screens.