My DM and group ruled that since dragons are canonically spell casters, True Polymorphing or Shapechanging into one allows a character to keep their class features and spells. My sorcerer decided he was done living as a half-elf.
I have allowed a player to do this, but I have ruled that once the Similacrum is no longer within the limit of the spell, it is now free to live its own life, and is an NPC. It may be similar to the original copy, but I had an extended discussion with a character, he thought his freed Similacrum would happily and willingly sacrifice itself for the parties interests. I told him why would his copy do a sacrifice like that when you clearly would not? That forced him to think for a while and evaluate the risks of freeing rough copies of himself that he does not have direct control over.
That is literally the plan with my Draconic Sorcerer xD Just a bunch of demiplanes with each their sorcerer clone, multiple "abandoned" buildings housing a closed off room and a clone. With some time to dig, the Wall of Stone spell, and the clone spell, you can easily make hundreds of contingencies, staying alive for as long as possible!
The recent Wizard subclass video has opened my eyes to how cool the Enchantment school is. Now I want to play an Enchanter that protects his tower with several layers of security, but as a last resort, Glyph of Warding (spell glyph) set with Dominate Person level 6, the trespasser takes a ten minute walk to another Glyph of Warding (spell glyph) set with Modify Memory level 6. Viola! The trespasser has no memory of where the entrance to the tower was... or the entire previous week... Now I'm going to come up with the most convoluted, chain reaction, Rube Goldberg Machine Contingency spell I can.
@@obsolete18 - Correct. 6th level does 1 week. So yeah, Glyph of Warding also needs to be up cast to 6th level. Like I said... it's a last resort for anyone that gets past the swamp, the difficult terrain, the illusions, etc.
@@jeffersonrose9888 but I’m saying because you can only actually affect 10 minutes they would still remember the rest of the week. You could have them remember the entrance being somewhere else but that would have been in the last ten minutes so there would be no reason to upcast
Contingengy: since Life Transference has a range of self, that might be nice to go off once a party member falls unconscious, while you have x% of max hp left. Good guy necromancy wizard *Edit* It doesnt have a range of self, but since the spell does definitely affect the caster, I'd allow it, but It'd be up to the DM.
Making a Demiplane filled with glyphs of warding that have buff spells that would normally require concentration. Have them activate on a command phrase (e.g. "God-mode activate").
One thing to note about the clone, is that you can decide the age of the clone. So a wizards that is too old to adventure can make a new younger version of themselves and destroy their enemies with a suicide run. Then just wake up and go dance on the ashes of their enemies :)
@@recursiveslacker7730 Maybe.. Up to you really, when your running the game. The way I see it, a lich is harder to kill permanently, because the clone needs a third of a year to grow. If players want to kill a specific wizard that uses Clone, they have about four months to kill it again. As I understand it, a lich is more troublesome.
@@mennorach Yeah. Clone is one extra life per casting and takes 4 months to qctually be in effect, lichdom gives you infinite extra lives as long as your phylactery is not destroyed. Lichdom comes at the cost of your humanity, but it requires less manteinance and less body parts from the wizard than thr Clone spell
Contingency > Otilluke's Resilient Sphere. Drop to low hp, the sphere pops up and allows potions to be consumed, defensive spells to be cast, etc. Then you get back into the fight.
In the Bowls of the Dungeons of the MadMage: Me: I cast Wish copying Simulacrum targeting Halaster DM: ... Counterspell, Counterspell, Counterspell, Counterspell. ME: Resolves?
In regards to Monty's concern about the balancing of combat encounters and the social dynamics therein, I think my preferred use of the *Simulacrum* spell would be to have it stay behind in the wizard's study, researching spells, creating scrolls or magic items, doing chores, keeping your home base in good shape for when you return. If anything goes down that shouldn't, like an intruder in the base or an attack on the town, then *Sending* could be a way for your simulacrum to let you know right away. Rubies don't exactly grow on trees, so I'd be hesitant to take my simulacrum anywhere dangerous when it can be so much more useful doing downtime activites for the party.
I LOVE how Kelly went from one scary octopus top in the ad to a second scary octopus top in the video hahaha. I had to check to see if they were using a filter on the video
One way to use demiplane as a necromancer: make really strong undead every day, give them really good gear while they are still under your command, and throw them into the demiplane by making the “door” appear on the ground (so none of the other undead can get out). When you need to, cast demiplane, open the door, and run like hell as your enemies are overrun by an instant horde of undead.
I like that these spells are there but like summons oh boy do they have high potential to really anger the rest of the players. One use for Simulacrum that a wizard in the party used was to have his simulacra take care of research scut work. They'd do things like alchemy, oversee his stronghold, etc.---all things that don't require spellcasting or fighting. This really helps because he's able to get lots of extra downtime (effectively) and he's super creepy as well, but doesn't get extra turns.
you could use simulacrum to copy spellbooks so you have more spellbooks and use them to maintain your house or tower while you are adventuring. they are the greatest servants you can have.
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Wait what. I've simulacrum used to copy creatures so much, I didn't even know it could target anything else.
It could also make the best spy ever, if your wizard is an illusionist. Similacrum may take eight hours to cast, but the 'malleable illusion' class feature only takes an action and you can change your similacrum to match someone you just saw.
Sorry to burst your bauble but the Simulacrum is made without any gear, and it only knows the spells you have prepared when making it and can not change the spells. so no they do not give you a free spellbook, BUT they can manually make things for you, like copying a spellbook, writing scrolls, making potions and so on, but you need to have the items for it to do the work for you. :) and my plans for my Simulacrum is to take care of my business while i'm out traveling, so i can still earn money :D
@@32Loveless50 that is what I said. You can use your simulacrum as scribes and do other physical tasks. They can still cast spells so cantrips can still be cast and when you make the simulacrum you should prepare a lot of ritual spells so they can cast those without using spell slots
Love your wizard vids! Wizard buys a library worth of books. Wizard has own tower. Wizard moves books into tower. Wizard casts Homunculus. Wizard goes adventuring, but leaves Homunculus in tower. Wizard sees new creature. Wizard communicates to Homunculus "Find out about this thing." Homunculus does research while Wizard is doing other things. You guys forgot about Mirage Arcane tho. 1sq mile of terrain HOWEVER YOU WANT!!! That is 1056x1056 (1,115,136) 5ft squares! Have an undead army coming to attack? Not anymore. Your new lava zone just ate them all... or most of them, at the very least. Just the flyers remain.
Homunculus seems more useful as a creature you'd leave behind in your tower while you're out adventuring. If you have some project that doesn't need your spellcasting that is time consuming, leave it there to do it. Leave it there to guard your tower and immediately warn you if anything's gone wrong. Leave it with important NPCs to assist or watch over them. You basically have unlimited Sending to it, and since it can magically convey everything it senses, the wizard could read books through the Homunculus from super far away. This would allow a wizard on an adventure to do research through the Homunculus while out adventuring.
"Now that I have the wish spell, I dont have to ask the cleric to heal my 1 inch cube flesh wounds! . . . Wait- I can also create a Simulacrum of the cleric!" Cleric - "I did not consent to this!"
You guys should definitely give Tiny Servant a look as another contender with familiar. For the campaign I'm in, we've had a little lantern TS basically serve as recurring character that does really crazy shit. My favorite moment with it will probably always be when a Sea Dragon was attacking a village fishing fleet. The dragon had gotten away from us and was head running full speed towards the helpless fishing vessels. In a last desperate attempt to stop the creature, my wizard ordered his Familiar to pick up the Tint Servant and fly after the Sea Dragon. When they finally reached the creature, the familiar dropped the Tiny Servant SAS style onto the Sea Dragon and began pummeling the crap out of it. With the familiar zapping it with a Dragon's Breath spell and the lantern round-house-kicking it, bought us time to catch up and save the day!!
It gets especially interesting when your wizard manages to get access to these spells earlier in the game via a scroll. It's a really great, non-game-breaking way to give that player a chance to feel powerful by "bypassing" a tough challenge with a one-time use item (no material components either)
can’t believe you guys didn’t mention the horrific idea that as long as they have the spell slots post-initial casting, a simulacra can *cast simulacrum*, creating even MORE copies of a character.
Perfect timing ! , I’m playing my first wizard (halfling divination w/ lucky feat) this Saturday , low level but I’m looking forward to seeing what shenanigans my little dude can get up to ... keep up the great work guys , can’t wait for the next one ! (we finished our first quest last week , and dm asked “would you rather have 150 gold or a title from the local Lord” everyone else chose gold , I chose Title , and am now the proud owner of 20acres of land and a small house in the middle... I spent all my starting gold on bees ... bee hives spread out on my property which next to an alchemical ingredient farm ... the honey should be nice and spicy ) Edit :, a word
Simulacrum has some limitations. It isn't really a second character. It is "friendly to you and creatures you designate. It obeys your spoken commands..." If the creator sends it out of earshot, it is no longer controlled by the creator. It cannot automatically know how it's creator wants it to behave. For example, if the creator is incapacitated, that creator would be able to exert no control over the simulacrum.
if you’ve created a simulacrum of yourself, it does whatever you would do if you were on your own. considering the player decides what their character would do, i would let them decide.
@@Hazel-xl8in I don't think I'd argue that, but there was an example in the video of creating a simulacrum of a duke or something. It wouldn't continue doing what you want once you got to a point where you couldn't give it verbal commands anymore. Once you were in a position where you couldn't command it anymore, wouldn't it go back to acting like the duke normally would? What if the simulacrum was of something that was normally hostile to either the character or the cause for which the character fights? Edit: LoL, I thought of something else. What if the character that did the self-creation is kind of a power hungry type with questionable morals; one who created the simulacrum solely for the expanded power, damn the consequences. How loyal to its creator would the simulacrum be if the creator were incapacitated. There are at least a few examples in fantasy literature I can think of where a simulacrum sought to replace the original.
Nice work again guys. My Bard has a Simulacrum of our party's Cleric. It has one spell left so I am about to use True Polymorph to transform my Simulacrum into a Gold Dragon. My new friendly Gold Dragon is going to be awesome. The DM is going to hate it! :)
My newest favorite Simulacrum combo is Aberrant Sorcerer using Wish and Twin Metamagic to create two duplicates of themselves. Each has their own pool of sorcery points to cast spells from instead of their own spell slots. Huzzah.
1. Create Simulacrum of another PC. Do not tell them. 2. Keep your simulacrum in stasis until that PC dies. 3. Hand their player your simulacrum's sheet. 4. Roleplay waking "the pc" up and tell them they're suffering amnesia from their near death experience. 5. Proceed as normal until you can rez the real one. 6. Watch the simulacrum's worldview collapse as they watch you raise the PC they believed themself to be. 7. ???? 8. WIZARD!
11:30 Regarding "Create Homunculus vs. Find Familiar", although it's true it can't be cast as a Ritual (therefore, consuming a 6th level spell slot to recast it, if the homunculus dies) it doesn't take more time than casting Find Familiar: "The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes LONGER to cast than normal." (PHB 201, Rituals). So Find Familiar takes 70 min (as a ritual) vs. Create Homunculus = 60 min.
with your clone you got to have lot jars too so when you teleport back, start choping your old body to get the materials components for more clones!! XD
I have a conjuration wizard npc with a simulacrum that has only been used to get research done faster, since this npc is my campaign's version of the character that the power rangers report to for their next mission. Speaking of which, thank you for reminding me of the existence of planar binding, that gives me a number of ideas.
Contigency, glyph of warding, demiplane, gate, otilukes resilient sphere. Contigency the resilient sphere, create a demiplane with glpyh of wardings. Then gate the enemy BBEG, right in the trap. You get the spell from contigency so you dont get dmg. I hope this combo is mine 😅 but you are free to use.
I wonder if contingency for something like teleport focused on your body with the endpoint being near your clone as a suitable way to make sure you have all your stuff when you get back.
Contingency is max 5th level spell, Teleport is 7th. Teleportation Circle is 5th, but requires a minute cast time. Contingency requires the spell to be a single Action cast.
Planewalking PSA: Please ensure you have a multiple forked, metal rods worth at least 250 gp each, attuned to different planes of existence stored in your demiplane for planeshit or you ain't going anywhere (a demiplane is counted as a seperate plane for the purposes of Plane shit meaning you can shift to the material plane). Please also ensure you have multiple safe Teleportation Circles on the plane you are shifting to so that you will not immidaitely be obliterated by an enenmy on your timely return. Sincerly, a frequent plane shifter
The party is entertaining some poor orphans as a favor for a lord and the barbarian stubs his toe. Not wanting to curse in front of the children, he instead says, "Ah... giggle shorts" and triggers the wizard's contingency'ed fireball
I’ve decided The Dungeon Dudes are my Arch Rivals! I will create a new RUclips Channel called.... The Dragon Bros!!! And I will counter every video they make!!!! ;)
My biggest problem with Simulacrum is one I had to make a house rule about. A player asked (fortunately _long_ before reaching a level where it was relevant) about making a simulacrum of her own character, so that the simulacrum could cast Wish without risk to the wizard herself of being wishboned (failing the 1/3 chance and becoming unable to cast Wish). I ruled, after a considerable amount of thought, that she could use this loophole _once,_ but the first time she had a simulacrum get wishboned, all subsequent simulacra she created would come into existence already wishboned. But by the Rules As Written, she was absolutely right and could avoid taking the chance of ever being wishboned, by having a simulacrum cast the spell.
@@JB-xl2jc Hmmm, sounds like an Aquisitions Incorporated adventure. The CEO of FaceBooke wants to crush those idiots over at MyDemiSpace and unleashes his top flight espionage team of assassins, corporate rogues, and immoral divinators. I can only imagine the backstabbing, clone-napping, and strongarming of infernal patrons.
You know, I feel like it would've been nice to have Demiplane be one of those spells that you can make permanent if you cast it in the same place for 1 year. Players could use it as the entrance to an admittedly small, yet really cool secret base that could be kept secure through a host of other spells, while I could also see high-level wizard NPCs setting up a whole bunch of interconnected demiplanes to create a massive dungeon complex a la Critical Role's Happy Fun Ball of Tricks. Idk, maybe that'd be too powerful even for an 8th level spell, but at the same time, several adventures use much larger demiplanes as settings for their stories, so it'd be nice to have a way to set something like that up using an existing spell that players could potentially pick up.
Simulacrum: have another player take on the role of the simulacrum, regardless of who was simulated. Change players as you like. Doesn't deal with the DM's extra burden, but it does solve the issue of Player X alone having two characters.
My Friend's group used to struggle with everyone wanting to be casters and no tanks in the group. Then he started casting Simulacrum on anyone who played a tank, and gave them control of it. Now he can't get rid of the barbarians...
Planar Binding Attitudes Planar Binding says, "A bound creature must follow your instructions to the best of its ability. The creature obeys the letter of your instructions, but IF THE CREAURE IS HOSTILE TO YOU, it strives to twist your words to achieve its own objectives." But, it also says, "If the creature was summoned or created by another spell, that spell's duration is extended to match the duration of this spell." (emphasis mine) Summon Fey, Summon Elemental, and Summon Fiend all say, "The creature is an ally to you and your companions." Given the way "hostile" and "ally" are used in D&D 5e rules, I think any Fey, elemental, or Fiend you summon and bind will be an ally for duration, never hostile, obeying commands in the spirit they're given and generally acting in the best interests of the summoner and their companions.
Simulacrum "Your taking the turn of 2 player charcters" AND familiars, homunculus, planar binding minions, conjured creatures, charmed/dominanted creatures and no wizard is complete w/out a shield golem... Did i miss anything?? My wizards turn is going to take so long a solution may be to delegate out minions to other players so everyone can play 2-3 characters, might not with certain groups/tables/dms
My players use every wish they can get their hands on to permanently give resistance to a type of damage to the whole party. And since it works on 10 creatures, they sell the extra slots to nobles and other npcs for profit. acid, bludgeoning, cold, fire, force, lightning, necrotic, piercing, poison, psychic, radiant, slashing, and thunder. first 13 wishes. I force them to use 3 more for Magical Slashing, bludgeoning, piercing. We have never seen a 17th wish... I wonder what they would cast :-D , and yes, they have the noncasters use the rings, luckblades etc to get the fatigue and 33%.
My wishlist for 6e, remove trex from polymorphable animals, or at least if you do it while in a sub freezing area immediately start death saving throws. It was cool as a novelty but Its so silly as the default combat shape especially in the cold where a beached orca would survive longer.
I'm planning a campaign for my party and in it there is a wizard NPC they could possibly meet. The wizard is mad but not insane and they like building magical monsters and items. They used the Demiplane spell to create a workshop/laboratory/living space and they created this magical artifact that allowed them to extend the dimensions of the Demiplane. I also cheated the Demiplane duration by having the NPC put a permanent teleportation circle into the Demiplane because when you cast Plane Shift if you attune the tuning fork material component to a Teleportation Circle, you can plane shift to that teleportation circle.
Campaign idea: you play as a party's worth of Clones after a failed excursion against the BBEG, but the Clone spell was weakened or otherwise defective so you start at lower levels, and the Wizard who cast it was otherwise incapacitated by the BBEG and did not rejoin the Clone-revived party (or is also highly nerfed). That effectively puts you into a "second playthrough" story of a campaign against a BBEG as heroes needing to not just forge a path ahead, but to do it where they'd done it once before and the BBEG is prepared and out for them (and possibly to rescue the lost Wizard and regain their lost powers and swag).
My favorite use for Simulacrum is with Illusion Wizards. Their malleable illusion class feature allows them to swap out one of the material components (aka the DNA of the duke) for something else without needed to spend an additional amount of gold.
Nicely done! Gotta say when you guys were talking about the Clone spell what immediately popped into my mind was an episode of Rick and Morty where similar shenanigans happened.
For sure, the whole jump to a clone , crush a saphire before the bad guy grabs your cool staff, teleport back to kill said bad guy before going through pockets of your own corps. I thought, thats such a Rick move
I actually had this idea for a genie warlock. Basically he starts as a tomb raider type character, finds a tome (pact of the tome) that contains the wish spell and a genie appears and says "damn, that was supposed to be protected, wanna help me protect it in exchange for power?" And he said hell yes. Story happens, he becomes a lot less selfish and decides to actually protect the tome...then he gets wish...a few years later, mighty fortress surrounded by plant growth and awakenned trees, hidden underground maze full of elementals, undead and constructs, guards and wards everywhere, glyphs full of all kinds of fire storms, feebleminds, prismatic walls, reverse gravities and after all of that and a whole lot more there is a sealed sarcophagus with a clone in it. Once the warlock dies, he will awaken within it, summon his tome and wish for an eternal sleep from the genie that granted him the power to become a good person.
Why not use the homunculus to keep your spellbooks safe so you don't have to carry them around. Keep the homunculus in your keep or somewhere safe and just have it open your spellbook and look through it's eyes when you need to prepare a different spell.
Awesome video guys! I really hope when you get on to the Chronurgist in your next subclass video you cover the synergy of some of these spells, especally with the level 14 Convergent Futures feature: Just a few off the top of my head: Create Homunculus - Have your Homunculus cast and concentrate on a spell for you using Arcane Abeyance. Simulacrum - Both you and your simulacrum can cause an opponent to auto fail a saving throw with Convergent Futures. That means that by the time your second turn comes around, even creatures with legendary resistance are going to automatically fail their save against your big spell. Speaking of... Planar binding - Convergent Futures means you can cause the target to automatically fail its save. Using this with Wish and the tactic above means you can bind say Orcus to obey you and use his summoning powers to create a limitless army of undead including liches that obey you by proxy. Your move necromancers.
Note: All these spells are incredibly and insidiously powerful... in the hands of the DM The King? Simulacrum Thought you killed the BBEG? Clone Contingency is just PURE shenanigans
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Bard with Find (greater) steed > simulacrum the bard of the steed > twin spell simulacrum on the 2 bards destroying 1 but creating 2 > 3 bards cast shape change on themselves. Tada one character, SIX FUCKING DRAGONS!
Contingency: If I fail 2 death saves by rolling or by getting struck I use telekinesis to break my staff of power - cause if you go nuke why not Tzar bomb...
I think y'all really missed out on Mirage Arcane here. It's great for creating whatever base you want, reshaping the battlefield or the greater surrounding area to whatever you want, and a whole lot more.
@@asherandai1000 The point of Meteor Swarm is that it doesn't take 1 minute to deal its damage. The two should not be compared. A more direct comparison could be something like Crown of Stars, which has comparable damage per bonus action to Illusory Dragon, with a lower level spell slot, without concentration, on a roll to hit instead of a saving throw. But then of course Illusory Dragon does a 60 foot cone AoE and has a fear effect stapled onto it while Crown of Stars hits a single target per turn
@@Archimonde259 Crown of Stars damage doesn't compare either. Even assuming a single target, Crown of stars average damage is only 182 assuming every single attack hits. At that level a high armour class is likely, I usually use 22 as a base for high CR single target encounters, as it could be higher or lower I think this is fair but feel free to use a different base. Assuming a maxed stat bonus gives +11 to hit, making for a 50% miss rate. That further reduces Crown of Stars damage to 91 over 7 turns. Illusory Dragon over 7 turns averages at 171.5 damage. Assuming every single save is successful reduces that to 85.75 damage. This is the "worst" case scenario for Illusory Dragon and it is almost equal, worst case scenario for CoS is 0 damage. It also doesn't factor in the 3 extra turns of damage, the AoE effect, or the other benefits it provides such as fear, providing a distraction target, or the fact you can remain hidden while ID attacks. I like CoS, but you can't honestly think it compares in any way. CoS loses out big in every respect except duration. I used Meteor Swarm because it's often seen by most as the pinnacle of spell damage, even though it actually isn't very good.
This will depend on the concept of your character and how you want to play them. I will presume, as Divination, you are going to focus on Battlefield Control (as Divination EXCELS at this): Before anything else, TALK TO YOUR DM about how available Scrolls and Spellbooks will be. If they don't exist, you are going to be very limited. Still playable. Still can be a monster. But much less than if they do. Race: It doesn't mater now. Either choose a race with features you like, or Custom Lineage for the Feat and look like a race (or whatever you want). ASI: Wizards are... complicated. Everyone knows Int, Con, and Dex (for AC) are important. But what people seem to rarely factor... saving throws and what causes them. The most devastating spell effects are generally Int/Wis/Cha. This means you need decent stats in almost everything. Wizards who roll stats have better odds than those that do not. Point buy is the 2nd best. 8/12/14/14/14/10 is the best option for point buy, imo. Proficiency: Whenever I play a Wizard, I will almost always choose Sage for background. I may alter it sometimes, but what it gives is usually exactly what I want. That said, Wizard Profs (not background) I will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS pick Arcana or History. Reason: This opens Sage to allow Perception. And I always want that on my Wizards. Cantrips: Prestidigitation is a go-to for me. It doesn't help in combat (usually), but food that tastes terrible now doesn't. Warm water? nope. it's cold. Have to meet a king/queen/etc? We're all cleaned up. This is the most optional (imo) Cantrip to have though. Mind Sliver. Read it. 'Nuff said. Ray of Frost. Not as much damage as Firebolt, but it offers a bit more control with the 10ft movement speed redux. Shape Water. When you can do so, but 3+ more water skins. These will be used for this spell. Have a lock you can open? No Rogue? Pour some water into the lock and use this cantrip. You just broke the lock. Toll the Dead. Wisdom save for possible decent damage. If you don't want anything else, this would be ok. Minor Illusion. Situational. It can be great... or garbage. Depends on how your DM runs illusions. So, as with any illusion spell, ask your DM before committing. 1st Level Spells: FIND FAMILIAR. If you are a Wizard, this is something you will want. Mage Armor. This is also something you will want. And will prepare every single day... Unless you started your 1st level as Cleric or Artificer... or take a 1 level dip into either. At which point, you will wear armor and a shield. (This REQUIRES Warcaster, RAW). Magic Missile. Automatic Damage is always nice. This is, however, the most optional spell for level 1 as damage is not your focus. Sleep. You are a Wizard. This is level 1. Welcome to your most cast spell for a bit. Shield. Cuz your AC sucks. Grease. Small AOE CC. Tasha's Hideous Laughter. Single Target shutdown. Detect Magic. Always nice to have. At this point you have options. Level 1 gives you 6 spells. Level 2 gives you 2 more. There are 8 spells listed above already. But you likely haven't taken them all. If this is the case, here's a few other options... Absorb Elements. You likely won't need this yet, but it will save your life at some point later on. Alarm. Safer resting areas. Know when to trigger traps. Stuff like that. Comprehend Languages. Understand any language. Always useful. Expeditious Retreat. For those "OH CRAP!" moments. If you are doing your job properly, this will rarely be needed. Identify. This is very much DM dependent. If you want to know, you want to know. It isn't required (as attuning will reveal the same info), but is nice to know what you are attuning to before doing so. WARNING: Does NOT reveal curses. 2nd Level Spells: Web. One of the more powerful AOE CCs available. Here is another moment. When you 1st get access to 2nd level spells, there are more than a few good control options. Suggestion can nullify an opponent. "I need you to count every blade of grass between here and the river over there." "You really don't want to fight us; You should fly away as far and as fast as you can." DM dependent spell. Phantasmal Force. Int Save. Causes damage. Possible CC. These are my personal suggestions, but there is another. Tasha's Mind Whip. There is no real CC here. But you could remove reactions and do some damage. Not something I'd cast often (at this level), but something to consider. Other spells to look at: Mirror Image, Misty Step, Levitate, Hold Person, Invisibility, Blindness/Deafness, Blur, Enlarge/Reduce. 2nd level spells is where you'll want to find/buy a lot of scrolls (if possible). 3rd Level Spells. You are going to be expected to take fireball. You will be pressured into taking fireball. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE FIREBALL. You can. It's fun. It's up to you. I won't list it here. Counterspell. You want this. You will never unprepare it. Hypnotic Pattern. AOE Shutdown. Highly recommend. Leomund's Tiny Hut. Safe resting is always appreciated. Haste or Slow. I, personally, prefer Slow because of the stun if I lose concentration on Haste. Both are great options. Fly is another good spell to have access to. Dispel Magic. You'll want this eventually too.
Starting a campaign with my brother and his friends who ive known for probably close to ten years now ((not counting my brother lol)) Building a rogue aarakocra whos already lvl 6 since thats what they were last time they stopped to take a rl break. Soooo stoked for it, already made a lvl20 verison of it thats a lv10 rogue/theif with a subclass hopefully starting asap being a druid of the forest also reaching lv 10 eventually. One of my goals is to build a standing with the gryphons for my clan and to repopulate my aincent clan hehe. I think it would be cool if when i hit lv20 i was trained in the spell of reincarnation and able to go back to my clan and show birdfolk new races i now welcome in to our flock as well as train the druids their reincarnation. Orignaly i thought of maybe using barabian as a subclass and being able to rAGE LIKE AN ANGRY BIRD. But after reading all the spells available to the druids i thought it would fitting and i kinda fell in love with the idea. I plan to seek out dealers of gryphon eggs by using sky write and the theives language. I really wanna train/care/hunt for our mounts. Ill usually stick to forests and rooftops after of course we stop into an inn to get sloshed after a good adventure. Any thoughts or advice? I kinda been up till 6am the last two nights writing about it lmao.
It's really interesting how experiences paint your perception afterward. Other than using Wish to imitate spells like explained in this video, I played with DM that if you dared to cast this BS, you'd be looking forward to certain death, sth horrible happening and maybe eternal damnation or some other awful shit happening to your soul.
Time for simulacrum madness. As a level 17 wizard, spend the money to make a simulacrum of yourself. Now command copy 1 to cast wish, using it to cast simulacrum without the costly component to make copy 2. Copy 2 casts wish to make copy 3. Copy 3 casts wish to make copy 4. Copy 4 casts wish... 10 minutes after you finished the first copy, you have an army of 100 wizards with level 7 or lower spell slots. They go off to fight the armies of undead while you and the last copy continue making another 100 copies to help the first ones. 8 hours later, you've created 4,200 copies of yourself. That's a lot of fireball.
Any spell cast with a wish spell is cast using a 9th level slot. So your planar binding would last a year and day. This combo is incredibly powerful in combat when combined with portent. Having a Pit Fiend or Balor as a pet for a year is pretty decent. Technically you can do this every day for a year. Did someone say Decent to Avernus...
@@shaynemross 8th level or lower but it's still cast using a 9th level slot. The wording is pretty clear "When you cast this spell using a spell slot of a higher level, the duration increases to... ...and to a year and a day with a 9th-level spell slot.".
It was worth mentioning that wish can duplicate ANY and ALL spell of level 8th or lower from ANY spell list and bois if it's fun to awaken (as 5th level druid spell) your ranger's animal companion, boi OH boi.
Was just about to say Harry Dresden does this before Kelly went ahead and name dropped him. I'm still sad I never really got to mess around with higher level spell before my campaign ended.
Alternative title: "High Level Wizard Spells for Bard's Magical Secrets"
A Bard that has multiple clones & a simulacrum. Oh man the chaos of an "immortal" mortal.
Also for sorcerers who cast wish. :D
@@GunnerM60 A Bard with multiple Simulacra? Finally, a band that won't break up due to artistic difference!
@@GunnerM60 That's just a lich with extra steps
Lmao true
I love how often Monty is able to work in the words Giggle Shorts into these videos.
I'm disappointed that he doesn't ploymorph in to a T-Rex when he does so.
@@euansmith3699 I supposed he fogot his 10-day casting of Contingency
@@WilliamWhyles "Giggle Shorts... GIGGLE SHORTS... Gi-Gul-Shorts!... oh, darn, what day is this?"
Simulacrum + True Polymorph. At level 17, the party has a pet Adult Red Dragon that is friendly to them and obeys the wizard's commands.
Damn...
My DM and group ruled that since dragons are canonically spell casters, True Polymorphing or Shapechanging into one allows a character to keep their class features and spells. My sorcerer decided he was done living as a half-elf.
Go Silver for the cold damage and paralyzing breath! And they're cooler looking.
I have allowed a player to do this, but I have ruled that once the Similacrum is no longer within the limit of the spell, it is now free to live its own life, and is an NPC. It may be similar to the original copy, but
I had an extended discussion with a character, he thought his freed Similacrum would happily and willingly sacrifice itself for the parties interests. I told him why would his copy do a sacrifice like that when you clearly would not? That forced him to think for a while and evaluate the risks of freeing rough copies of himself that he does not have direct control over.
Bonus points if you're a githyanki bladesinger and ride the dragon into battle
Alternative title: "High Level Wizard Spells for a Sorcerer to steal through Wish"
Or a Lore Bard to steal through Magical Secrets. Bards w/ a clone & or a simulacrum...., YIKES!
@@GunnerM60 Bards, as far as I can remember, are the only ones who can literally raise themselves from the dead. Contigency + Revivify!
That is literally the plan with my Draconic Sorcerer xD
Just a bunch of demiplanes with each their sorcerer clone, multiple "abandoned" buildings housing a closed off room and a clone. With some time to dig, the Wall of Stone spell, and the clone spell, you can easily make hundreds of contingencies, staying alive for as long as possible!
@@misterdayne2792 I'm afraid that makes no sense homie
@@asherandai1000 A high level arcana domain cleric can too, though bards can do it sooner
The recent Wizard subclass video has opened my eyes to how cool the Enchantment school is. Now I want to play an Enchanter that protects his tower with several layers of security, but as a last resort, Glyph of Warding (spell glyph) set with Dominate Person level 6, the trespasser takes a ten minute walk to another Glyph of Warding (spell glyph) set with Modify Memory level 6. Viola! The trespasser has no memory of where the entrance to the tower was... or the entire previous week...
Now I'm going to come up with the most convoluted, chain reaction, Rube Goldberg Machine Contingency spell I can.
Modify memory only affects 10 minutes of time. increase the spell level just increases how long ago you can affect
@@obsolete18 - Correct. 6th level does 1 week. So yeah, Glyph of Warding also needs to be up cast to 6th level.
Like I said... it's a last resort for anyone that gets past the swamp, the difficult terrain, the illusions, etc.
@@jeffersonrose9888 but I’m saying because you can only actually affect 10 minutes they would still remember the rest of the week. You could have them remember the entrance being somewhere else but that would have been in the last ten minutes so there would be no reason to upcast
@@obsolete18 - Ah! Thanks. I had misread the spell. That makes sense. Not a problem for my plan really. Just a few adjustments needed.
Contingency: "You leave when Burt Reynolds says you can leave!"
*sudden Bigby's Hand*
Dungeon Dudes are on a roll with Wizards. Always look forward to your videos!
I love all classes, but to me, Wizards are the quintessential D&D class. Love the content!
Contingengy: since Life Transference has a range of self, that might be nice to go off once a party member falls unconscious, while you have x% of max hp left. Good guy necromancy wizard
*Edit* It doesnt have a range of self, but since the spell does definitely affect the caster, I'd allow it, but It'd be up to the DM.
That’s a very interesting use.
The caster but not "only" the caster.
"Why limit ourselves to just one clone, let's make a dozen! What could possibly go wrong?"
~Manshoon 1370 DR
Making a Demiplane filled with glyphs of warding that have buff spells that would normally require concentration. Have them activate on a command phrase (e.g. "God-mode activate").
J.A.R.V.I.S. online….
The scariest part of this is that while players in a normal campaign would have trouble doing this, BBEGs have all the time in the world to set it up.
You guys are so fricking great. I haven’t even watched this video yet. I’m just happy to see that’s it’s there.
Give simulacrum Blackrazor, sword dominates simulacrum, now blackrazor has a wizard body and spells... good times :)
You sir, are a genius. I now have an idea for a minor villain.
@@a.z.pantera5577 very vulnerable to animate objects... especially with coins
@@davidjackson5053 duly noted
One thing to note about the clone, is that you can decide the age of the clone. So a wizards that is too old to adventure can make a new younger version of themselves and destroy their enemies with a suicide run. Then just wake up and go dance on the ashes of their enemies :)
Something tells me that if that worked, nobody would have taken the high-maintenance option of lichdom after this spell was developed.
@@recursiveslacker7730 Maybe.. Up to you really, when your running the game. The way I see it, a lich is harder to kill permanently, because the clone needs a third of a year to grow. If players want to kill a specific wizard that uses Clone, they have about four months to kill it again. As I understand it, a lich is more troublesome.
@@mennorach Yeah. Clone is one extra life per casting and takes 4 months to qctually be in effect, lichdom gives you infinite extra lives as long as your phylactery is not destroyed. Lichdom comes at the cost of your humanity, but it requires less manteinance and less body parts from the wizard than thr Clone spell
Contingency > Otilluke's Resilient Sphere.
Drop to low hp, the sphere pops up and allows potions to be consumed, defensive spells to be cast, etc. Then you get back into the fight.
I do this with a half ork, so when I drop to 1 hp I get in the hampster ball
Am I the only one who wants a Harry Dresden style adventure in D&D?
No, no you are not. I’d love that so much!
Isn't there a Dresden Files ttrpg? Feels like I've seen the book somewhere... If so, at least look at that for inspiration.
@@jeffersonrose9888 There is, but it's pretty dense. Not super accessible unless you are a seasoned rpg player.
@@jeffersonrose9888 The fate version of Dresden is amazing!
Nope
In the Bowls of the Dungeons of the MadMage:
Me: I cast Wish copying Simulacrum targeting Halaster
DM: ...
Counterspell, Counterspell, Counterspell, Counterspell.
ME: Resolves?
In regards to Monty's concern about the balancing of combat encounters and the social dynamics therein, I think my preferred use of the *Simulacrum* spell would be to have it stay behind in the wizard's study, researching spells, creating scrolls or magic items, doing chores, keeping your home base in good shape for when you return. If anything goes down that shouldn't, like an intruder in the base or an attack on the town, then *Sending* could be a way for your simulacrum to let you know right away. Rubies don't exactly grow on trees, so I'd be hesitant to take my simulacrum anywhere dangerous when it can be so much more useful doing downtime activites for the party.
A simulacrum of a Scribes wizard could stay back at the base and crank out spell scrolls like nobody's business!
Yes, exactly. Researcher and steward.
I LOVE how Kelly went from one scary octopus top in the ad to a second scary octopus top in the video hahaha. I had to check to see if they were using a filter on the video
One way to use demiplane as a necromancer: make really strong undead every day, give them really good gear while they are still under your command, and throw them into the demiplane by making the “door” appear on the ground (so none of the other undead can get out). When you need to, cast demiplane, open the door, and run like hell as your enemies are overrun by an instant horde of undead.
Or just fill your demiplane with glyphs of warding storing the finger of death spell. For all your BBEG one shotting needs.
@@michaelball2529 that is more like middle finger of death
You stole my plan! Now I need a new gimmick for my necromancer :(
@@asherandai1000 Make two demiplanes full of undead, take the Sorcerer Adept feat, use Quickened Spell to open up two full demiplanes full of guys.
I like that these spells are there but like summons oh boy do they have high potential to really anger the rest of the players.
One use for Simulacrum that a wizard in the party used was to have his simulacra take care of research scut work. They'd do things like alchemy, oversee his stronghold, etc.---all things that don't require spellcasting or fighting. This really helps because he's able to get lots of extra downtime (effectively) and he's super creepy as well, but doesn't get extra turns.
you could use simulacrum to copy spellbooks so you have more spellbooks and use them to maintain your house or tower while you are adventuring. they are the greatest servants you can have.
Wait what. I've simulacrum used to copy creatures so much, I didn't even know it could target anything else.
@NullLex00 I mean that copies of the orginal wizard could do that. so your simulacrum could sit at home while you are on an adventure
It could also make the best spy ever, if your wizard is an illusionist. Similacrum may take eight hours to cast, but the 'malleable illusion' class feature only takes an action and you can change your similacrum to match someone you just saw.
Sorry to burst your bauble but the Simulacrum is made without any gear, and it only knows the spells you have prepared when making it and can not change the spells.
so no they do not give you a free spellbook, BUT they can manually make things for you, like copying a spellbook, writing scrolls, making potions and so on, but you need to have the items for it to do the work for you. :)
and my plans for my Simulacrum is to take care of my business while i'm out traveling, so i can still earn money :D
@@32Loveless50 that is what I said. You can use your simulacrum as scribes and do other physical tasks. They can still cast spells so cantrips can still be cast and when you make the simulacrum you should prepare a lot of ritual spells so they can cast those without using spell slots
You could just make tons of Clones of yourself? Manshoon approves of this idea!
I would love to do an attack of the clones campaign.
Just make sure to make them with Wish or you'll end up losing limbs fast
Love your wizard vids!
Wizard buys a library worth of books. Wizard has own tower. Wizard moves books into tower. Wizard casts Homunculus. Wizard goes adventuring, but leaves Homunculus in tower. Wizard sees new creature. Wizard communicates to Homunculus "Find out about this thing." Homunculus does research while Wizard is doing other things.
You guys forgot about Mirage Arcane tho. 1sq mile of terrain HOWEVER YOU WANT!!! That is 1056x1056 (1,115,136) 5ft squares! Have an undead army coming to attack? Not anymore. Your new lava zone just ate them all... or most of them, at the very least. Just the flyers remain.
Homunculus seems more useful as a creature you'd leave behind in your tower while you're out adventuring. If you have some project that doesn't need your spellcasting that is time consuming, leave it there to do it. Leave it there to guard your tower and immediately warn you if anything's gone wrong. Leave it with important NPCs to assist or watch over them. You basically have unlimited Sending to it, and since it can magically convey everything it senses, the wizard could read books through the Homunculus from super far away. This would allow a wizard on an adventure to do research through the Homunculus while out adventuring.
Genius
@@MsKeylasThat book reading idea is big brain
I would definitely leave my homunculus in my demiplane to guard my clone.
Me seeing dungeon dudes on my feed:”this does put a smile on my face.”
"I love the smell of Fireball in the morning!"
"Now that I have the wish spell, I dont have to ask the cleric to heal my 1 inch cube flesh wounds! . . . Wait- I can also create a Simulacrum of the cleric!"
Cleric - "I did not consent to this!"
I think by the time a Wizard has access to Clone they should have more than a few back up Spellbooks
Contingency is one of the greatest secret weapons of the Wizard. When the Wizard gets that, can be a great power spike.
Contingency condition: "Upon my Death, a Fireball spell cast at 5th level, centered on my body." >8D
ALLAH AKHBAR
You guys should definitely give Tiny Servant a look as another contender with familiar.
For the campaign I'm in, we've had a little lantern TS basically serve as recurring character that does really crazy shit.
My favorite moment with it will probably always be when a Sea Dragon was attacking a village fishing fleet. The dragon had gotten away from us and was head running full speed towards the helpless fishing vessels. In a last desperate attempt to stop the creature, my wizard ordered his Familiar to pick up the Tint Servant and fly after the Sea Dragon. When they finally reached the creature, the familiar dropped the Tiny Servant SAS style onto the Sea Dragon and began pummeling the crap out of it. With the familiar zapping it with a Dragon's Breath spell and the lantern round-house-kicking it, bought us time to catch up and save the day!!
It gets especially interesting when your wizard manages to get access to these spells earlier in the game via a scroll.
It's a really great, non-game-breaking way to give that player a chance to feel powerful by "bypassing" a tough challenge with a one-time use item (no material components either)
can’t believe you guys didn’t mention the horrific idea that as long as they have the spell slots post-initial casting, a simulacra can *cast simulacrum*, creating even MORE copies of a character.
A wizard in a game I play in has done exactly that, although eventually they end up being copies of copies of copies... so it gets messy.
@@crimfan Don't copy other copies, have the Simulacra copy the original caster (preferably with full spell slots).
Perfect timing ! , I’m playing my first wizard (halfling divination w/ lucky feat) this Saturday , low level but I’m looking forward to seeing what shenanigans my little dude can get up to ... keep up the great work guys , can’t wait for the next one !
(we finished our first quest last week , and dm asked “would you rather have 150 gold or a title from the local Lord” everyone else chose gold , I chose Title , and am now the proud owner of 20acres of land and a small house in the middle... I spent all my starting gold on bees ... bee hives spread out on my property which next to an alchemical ingredient farm ... the honey should be nice and spicy )
Edit :, a word
They forgot about True Polymorph and Magic Jar, which are scarily potent in the hands of a diviner, or any wzard
Simulacrum has some limitations. It isn't really a second character. It is "friendly to you and creatures you designate. It obeys your spoken commands..." If the creator sends it out of earshot, it is no longer controlled by the creator. It cannot automatically know how it's creator wants it to behave. For example, if the creator is incapacitated, that creator would be able to exert no control over the simulacrum.
if you’ve created a simulacrum of yourself, it does whatever you would do if you were on your own. considering the player decides what their character would do, i would let them decide.
@@Hazel-xl8in I don't think I'd argue that, but there was an example in the video of creating a simulacrum of a duke or something. It wouldn't continue doing what you want once you got to a point where you couldn't give it verbal commands anymore. Once you were in a position where you couldn't command it anymore, wouldn't it go back to acting like the duke normally would? What if the simulacrum was of something that was normally hostile to either the character or the cause for which the character fights?
Edit: LoL, I thought of something else. What if the character that did the self-creation is kind of a power hungry type with questionable morals; one who created the simulacrum solely for the expanded power, damn the consequences. How loyal to its creator would the simulacrum be if the creator were incapacitated. There are at least a few examples in fantasy literature I can think of where a simulacrum sought to replace the original.
Nice work again guys. My Bard has a Simulacrum of our party's Cleric. It has one spell left so I am about to use True Polymorph to transform my Simulacrum into a Gold Dragon. My new friendly Gold Dragon is going to be awesome. The DM is going to hate it! :)
True Polymorph only lasts for an hour, then the Dragon becomes an NPC. So TP your Simulacrum into a Noble Gen and wish for a new Simulacrum.
@@archlittle6067, that right there is some big brain thinking.
My newest favorite Simulacrum combo is Aberrant Sorcerer using Wish and Twin Metamagic to create two duplicates of themselves.
Each has their own pool of sorcery points to cast spells from instead of their own spell slots.
Huzzah.
1. Create Simulacrum of another PC. Do not tell them.
2. Keep your simulacrum in stasis until that PC dies.
3. Hand their player your simulacrum's sheet.
4. Roleplay waking "the pc" up and tell them they're suffering amnesia from their near death experience.
5. Proceed as normal until you can rez the real one.
6. Watch the simulacrum's worldview collapse as they watch you raise the PC they believed themself to be.
7. ????
8. WIZARD!
11:30 Regarding "Create Homunculus vs. Find Familiar", although it's true it can't be cast as a Ritual (therefore, consuming a 6th level spell slot to recast it, if the homunculus dies) it doesn't take more time than casting Find Familiar: "The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes LONGER to cast than normal." (PHB 201, Rituals).
So Find Familiar takes 70 min (as a ritual) vs. Create Homunculus = 60 min.
with your clone you got to have lot jars too so when you teleport back, start choping your old body to get the materials components for more clones!! XD
I have a conjuration wizard npc with a simulacrum that has only been used to get research done faster, since this npc is my campaign's version of the character that the power rangers report to for their next mission. Speaking of which, thank you for reminding me of the existence of planar binding, that gives me a number of ideas.
Omg the Strange and Dormomu scene woulda been so much more epic if strange had to come back naked 😂😂😂
Rule 34
@@clarkkent163000 nope it is not rule 34...
You would also want to leave copies of your spell books in case your clone is a wizard
Contigency, glyph of warding, demiplane, gate, otilukes resilient sphere. Contigency the resilient sphere, create a demiplane with glpyh of wardings. Then gate the enemy BBEG, right in the trap. You get the spell from contigency so you dont get dmg. I hope this combo is mine 😅 but you are free to use.
Approach the humanoid BBEG.
"I Wish to control a Simulacrum of the humanoid BBEG."
So you’re telling me they’re the same kind of stand
I wonder if contingency for something like teleport focused on your body with the endpoint being near your clone as a suitable way to make sure you have all your stuff when you get back.
It would have to be Teleportation Circle, as Teleport is too high a level
Contingency is max 5th level spell, Teleport is 7th.
Teleportation Circle is 5th, but requires a minute cast time. Contingency requires the spell to be a single Action cast.
Unfortunately contingency specifies 5th level or lower spells
Have a cabal of wizards for my players next set of villains; just collecting some ideas
Planewalking PSA: Please ensure you have a multiple forked, metal rods worth at least 250 gp each, attuned to different planes of existence stored in your demiplane for planeshit or you ain't going anywhere (a demiplane is counted as a seperate plane for the purposes of Plane shit meaning you can shift to the material plane). Please also ensure you have multiple safe Teleportation Circles on the plane you are shifting to so that you will not immidaitely be obliterated by an enenmy on your timely return.
Sincerly, a frequent plane shifter
The party is entertaining some poor orphans as a favor for a lord and the barbarian stubs his toe. Not wanting to curse in front of the children, he instead says, "Ah... giggle shorts" and triggers the wizard's contingency'ed fireball
Use Wish to cast Simulacrum and then have the Simulacrum cast Wish so you can cast Wish through them without any of the drawbacks
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Good luck my guy
Good luck with that dude, cause you're definitely gonna need it!
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@@lyingcat9022 well, sorry there buddy, I didn't know you were Canadian.
My favorite class is the wizard I used to be a level 5 one and I lost my character sheet a long time ago so I don't even remember all my spells
My biggest problem with Simulacrum is one I had to make a house rule about. A player asked (fortunately _long_ before reaching a level where it was relevant) about making a simulacrum of her own character, so that the simulacrum could cast Wish without risk to the wizard herself of being wishboned (failing the 1/3 chance and becoming unable to cast Wish). I ruled, after a considerable amount of thought, that she could use this loophole _once,_ but the first time she had a simulacrum get wishboned, all subsequent simulacra she created would come into existence already wishboned. But by the Rules As Written, she was absolutely right and could avoid taking the chance of ever being wishboned, by having a simulacrum cast the spell.
u guys rock...we play level 20 plus so this really helps...we use 1st edition for levels
Once again as soon as I started thinking about something I would want to know more about in DnD, Dungeon Dudes makes a video about it.
Fam, I'm right in the middle of creating a Wizard character, I'm psyched.
Couple of divination wizards scrying and reading your mind.... to provide quality content
@@JB-xl2jc Honestly a divination wizard working in the marketing department of a company would be such a huge asset.
@@devin5201 Just imagine the corporate espionage alone!
@@JB-xl2jc Hmmm, sounds like an Aquisitions Incorporated adventure. The CEO of FaceBooke wants to crush those idiots over at MyDemiSpace and unleashes his top flight espionage team of assassins, corporate rogues, and immoral divinators. I can only imagine the backstabbing, clone-napping, and strongarming of infernal patrons.
You know, I feel like it would've been nice to have Demiplane be one of those spells that you can make permanent if you cast it in the same place for 1 year. Players could use it as the entrance to an admittedly small, yet really cool secret base that could be kept secure through a host of other spells, while I could also see high-level wizard NPCs setting up a whole bunch of interconnected demiplanes to create a massive dungeon complex a la Critical Role's Happy Fun Ball of Tricks. Idk, maybe that'd be too powerful even for an 8th level spell, but at the same time, several adventures use much larger demiplanes as settings for their stories, so it'd be nice to have a way to set something like that up using an existing spell that players could potentially pick up.
Simulacrum: have another player take on the role of the simulacrum, regardless of who was simulated. Change players as you like. Doesn't deal with the DM's extra burden, but it does solve the issue of Player X alone having two characters.
My Friend's group used to struggle with everyone wanting to be casters and no tanks in the group.
Then he started casting Simulacrum on anyone who played a tank, and gave them control of it.
Now he can't get rid of the barbarians...
Planar Binding Attitudes
Planar Binding says, "A bound creature must follow your instructions to the best of its ability. The creature obeys the letter of your instructions, but IF THE CREAURE IS HOSTILE TO YOU, it strives to twist your words to achieve its own objectives." But, it also says, "If the creature was summoned or created by another spell, that spell's duration is extended to match the duration of this spell." (emphasis mine) Summon Fey, Summon Elemental, and Summon Fiend all say, "The creature is an ally to you and your companions."
Given the way "hostile" and "ally" are used in D&D 5e rules, I think any Fey, elemental, or Fiend you summon and bind will be an ally for duration, never hostile, obeying commands in the spirit they're given and generally acting in the best interests of the summoner and their companions.
Simulacrum "Your taking the turn of 2 player charcters" AND familiars, homunculus, planar binding minions, conjured creatures, charmed/dominanted creatures and no wizard is complete w/out a shield golem...
Did i miss anything?? My wizards turn is going to take so long a solution may be to delegate out minions to other players so everyone can play 2-3 characters, might not with certain groups/tables/dms
My players use every wish they can get their hands on to permanently give resistance to a type of damage to the whole party. And since it works on 10 creatures, they sell the extra slots to nobles and other npcs for profit. acid, bludgeoning, cold, fire, force, lightning, necrotic, piercing, poison, psychic, radiant, slashing, and thunder. first 13 wishes. I force them to use 3 more for Magical Slashing, bludgeoning, piercing. We have never seen a 17th wish... I wonder what they would cast :-D , and yes, they have the noncasters use the rings, luckblades etc to get the fatigue and 33%.
Clone and Simulacrum are the favorite spells of me, myself, and I.
My wishlist for 6e, remove trex from polymorphable animals, or at least if you do it while in a sub freezing area immediately start death saving throws. It was cool as a novelty but Its so silly as the default combat shape especially in the cold where a beached orca would survive longer.
I'm planning a campaign for my party and in it there is a wizard NPC they could possibly meet. The wizard is mad but not insane and they like building magical monsters and items. They used the Demiplane spell to create a workshop/laboratory/living space and they created this magical artifact that allowed them to extend the dimensions of the Demiplane. I also cheated the Demiplane duration by having the NPC put a permanent teleportation circle into the Demiplane because when you cast Plane Shift if you attune the tuning fork material component to a Teleportation Circle, you can plane shift to that teleportation circle.
Campaign idea: you play as a party's worth of Clones after a failed excursion against the BBEG, but the Clone spell was weakened or otherwise defective so you start at lower levels, and the Wizard who cast it was otherwise incapacitated by the BBEG and did not rejoin the Clone-revived party (or is also highly nerfed). That effectively puts you into a "second playthrough" story of a campaign against a BBEG as heroes needing to not just forge a path ahead, but to do it where they'd done it once before and the BBEG is prepared and out for them (and possibly to rescue the lost Wizard and regain their lost powers and swag).
My favorite use for Simulacrum is with Illusion Wizards. Their malleable illusion class feature allows them to swap out one of the material components (aka the DNA of the duke) for something else without needed to spend an additional amount of gold.
Nicely done! Gotta say when you guys were talking about the Clone spell what immediately popped into my mind was an episode of Rick and Morty where similar shenanigans happened.
For sure, the whole jump to a clone , crush a saphire before the bad guy grabs your cool staff, teleport back to kill said bad guy before going through pockets of your own corps. I thought, thats such a Rick move
It’s weird listening this without thinking about all this spells in 2nd Ed ad&d
I was thinking you could break the staff of power on the BBEG then come back to the party when you wake up in your clone
This is why you don't bother with high-level damage spells. Stick to Disintegrate and Cone of Cold, and use your 7+ slots for the really funky stuff.
I actually had this idea for a genie warlock. Basically he starts as a tomb raider type character, finds a tome (pact of the tome) that contains the wish spell and a genie appears and says "damn, that was supposed to be protected, wanna help me protect it in exchange for power?" And he said hell yes. Story happens, he becomes a lot less selfish and decides to actually protect the tome...then he gets wish...a few years later, mighty fortress surrounded by plant growth and awakenned trees, hidden underground maze full of elementals, undead and constructs, guards and wards everywhere, glyphs full of all kinds of fire storms, feebleminds, prismatic walls, reverse gravities and after all of that and a whole lot more there is a sealed sarcophagus with a clone in it. Once the warlock dies, he will awaken within it, summon his tome and wish for an eternal sleep from the genie that granted him the power to become a good person.
Why not use the homunculus to keep your spellbooks safe so you don't have to carry them around. Keep the homunculus in your keep or somewhere safe and just have it open your spellbook and look through it's eyes when you need to prepare a different spell.
Awesome video guys! I really hope when you get on to the Chronurgist in your next subclass video you cover the synergy of some of these spells, especally with the level 14 Convergent Futures feature: Just a few off the top of my head:
Create Homunculus - Have your Homunculus cast and concentrate on a spell for you using Arcane Abeyance.
Simulacrum - Both you and your simulacrum can cause an opponent to auto fail a saving throw with Convergent Futures. That means that by the time your second turn comes around, even creatures with legendary resistance are going to automatically fail their save against your big spell. Speaking of...
Planar binding - Convergent Futures means you can cause the target to automatically fail its save. Using this with Wish and the tactic above means you can bind say Orcus to obey you and use his summoning powers to create a limitless army of undead including liches that obey you by proxy. Your move necromancers.
Note: All these spells are incredibly and insidiously powerful... in the hands of the DM
The King? Simulacrum
Thought you killed the BBEG? Clone
Contingency is just PURE shenanigans
1st. Some very good advice on Wizard spells. And Don't forget about there Live play Dungenes of Drakkenheim. Its fantastic and better than some more popular Live games 😜
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Wow.
The clone part is mind-blowing
Bard with Find (greater) steed > simulacrum the bard of the steed > twin spell simulacrum on the 2 bards destroying 1 but creating 2 > 3 bards cast shape change on themselves. Tada one character, SIX FUCKING DRAGONS!
Contingency: if I fail 2 death saves I cast 9th level fireball on myself
The trigger spell has to use a spell slot of 5th level or lower, so realistically it is Fireball at 5th level
Contingency: If I fail 2 death saves by rolling or by getting struck I use telekinesis to break my staff of power - cause if you go nuke why not Tzar bomb...
I think y'all really missed out on Mirage Arcane here. It's great for creating whatever base you want, reshaping the battlefield or the greater surrounding area to whatever you want, and a whole lot more.
Familiar, Homunculus and Manifest Mind and you're now a conjuvination\divuration wizard
look at all these awesome spells i'll never get to use because my dms never play long enough to get characters that high.
Imagine thinking that rerolling a save once per long rest or not losing your main feature for not attacking once is balanced with those
Don't forget to wish for a simulacrum of the BBEG during the BBEG fight ;)
Interesting. Yet I guess that's where the wizard can give up one of his ribs to make the clone.
I had so many friends say wish isn't good anymore... Man, people need to pay attention...
I'm fund of "Illusory Dragon". That spell is just so damn cool.
I concur.
And the fact that you can say to your enemies "So you figured out it isn't real? It's still gonna kill you." Is just beautiful
@@asherandai1000 The damage is not great but I like that it's an Intelligence saving throw and a lot of brawny enemies don't have amazing intelligence
@@Archimonde259 7d6 in a 60ft cone with a save for half on a bonus action every round for a minute? That's more than a Meteor Swarm.
@@asherandai1000 The point of Meteor Swarm is that it doesn't take 1 minute to deal its damage. The two should not be compared.
A more direct comparison could be something like Crown of Stars, which has comparable damage per bonus action to Illusory Dragon, with a lower level spell slot, without concentration, on a roll to hit instead of a saving throw. But then of course Illusory Dragon does a 60 foot cone AoE and has a fear effect stapled onto it while Crown of Stars hits a single target per turn
@@Archimonde259 Crown of Stars damage doesn't compare either. Even assuming a single target, Crown of stars average damage is only 182 assuming every single attack hits.
At that level a high armour class is likely, I usually use 22 as a base for high CR single target encounters, as it could be higher or lower I think this is fair but feel free to use a different base.
Assuming a maxed stat bonus gives +11 to hit, making for a 50% miss rate. That further reduces Crown of Stars damage to 91 over 7 turns.
Illusory Dragon over 7 turns averages at 171.5 damage. Assuming every single save is successful reduces that to 85.75 damage. This is the "worst" case scenario for Illusory Dragon and it is almost equal, worst case scenario for CoS is 0 damage. It also doesn't factor in the 3 extra turns of damage, the AoE effect, or the other benefits it provides such as fear, providing a distraction target, or the fact you can remain hidden while ID attacks.
I like CoS, but you can't honestly think it compares in any way. CoS loses out big in every respect except duration.
I used Meteor Swarm because it's often seen by most as the pinnacle of spell damage, even though it actually isn't very good.
Clone spell in a nutshell: hehehahaha you fool! I have 70 ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS!!"
I'm fond of "Dormammu, I've come to bargain!!"
Simulacrum would be great for making down time stuff like making magic items or potions or s*** like that
Using contingency would get extra interesting with the cleric/wizard multiclass.
Hey guys! Im starting a campaign as a divination wizard, and I was wondering what cantrips to 3rd level spells you recommend?
This will depend on the concept of your character and how you want to play them. I will presume, as Divination, you are going to focus on Battlefield Control (as Divination EXCELS at this):
Before anything else, TALK TO YOUR DM about how available Scrolls and Spellbooks will be. If they don't exist, you are going to be very limited. Still playable. Still can be a monster. But much less than if they do.
Race: It doesn't mater now. Either choose a race with features you like, or Custom Lineage for the Feat and look like a race (or whatever you want).
ASI: Wizards are... complicated. Everyone knows Int, Con, and Dex (for AC) are important. But what people seem to rarely factor... saving throws and what causes them. The most devastating spell effects are generally Int/Wis/Cha.
This means you need decent stats in almost everything. Wizards who roll stats have better odds than those that do not. Point buy is the 2nd best. 8/12/14/14/14/10 is the best option for point buy, imo.
Proficiency: Whenever I play a Wizard, I will almost always choose Sage for background. I may alter it sometimes, but what it gives is usually exactly what I want. That said, Wizard Profs (not background) I will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS pick Arcana or History. Reason: This opens Sage to allow Perception. And I always want that on my Wizards.
Cantrips:
Prestidigitation is a go-to for me. It doesn't help in combat (usually), but food that tastes terrible now doesn't. Warm water? nope. it's cold. Have to meet a king/queen/etc? We're all cleaned up. This is the most optional (imo) Cantrip to have though.
Mind Sliver. Read it. 'Nuff said.
Ray of Frost. Not as much damage as Firebolt, but it offers a bit more control with the 10ft movement speed redux.
Shape Water. When you can do so, but 3+ more water skins. These will be used for this spell. Have a lock you can open? No Rogue? Pour some water into the lock and use this cantrip. You just broke the lock.
Toll the Dead. Wisdom save for possible decent damage. If you don't want anything else, this would be ok.
Minor Illusion. Situational. It can be great... or garbage. Depends on how your DM runs illusions. So, as with any illusion spell, ask your DM before committing.
1st Level Spells:
FIND FAMILIAR. If you are a Wizard, this is something you will want.
Mage Armor. This is also something you will want. And will prepare every single day... Unless you started your 1st level as Cleric or Artificer... or take a 1 level dip into either. At which point, you will wear armor and a shield. (This REQUIRES Warcaster, RAW).
Magic Missile. Automatic Damage is always nice. This is, however, the most optional spell for level 1 as damage is not your focus.
Sleep. You are a Wizard. This is level 1. Welcome to your most cast spell for a bit.
Shield. Cuz your AC sucks.
Grease. Small AOE CC.
Tasha's Hideous Laughter. Single Target shutdown.
Detect Magic. Always nice to have.
At this point you have options. Level 1 gives you 6 spells. Level 2 gives you 2 more. There are 8 spells listed above already. But you likely haven't taken them all. If this is the case, here's a few other options...
Absorb Elements. You likely won't need this yet, but it will save your life at some point later on.
Alarm. Safer resting areas. Know when to trigger traps. Stuff like that.
Comprehend Languages. Understand any language. Always useful.
Expeditious Retreat. For those "OH CRAP!" moments. If you are doing your job properly, this will rarely be needed.
Identify. This is very much DM dependent. If you want to know, you want to know. It isn't required (as attuning will reveal the same info), but is nice to know what you are attuning to before doing so. WARNING: Does NOT reveal curses.
2nd Level Spells:
Web. One of the more powerful AOE CCs available.
Here is another moment. When you 1st get access to 2nd level spells, there are more than a few good control options.
Suggestion can nullify an opponent. "I need you to count every blade of grass between here and the river over there." "You really don't want to fight us; You should fly away as far and as fast as you can." DM dependent spell.
Phantasmal Force. Int Save. Causes damage. Possible CC.
These are my personal suggestions, but there is another.
Tasha's Mind Whip. There is no real CC here. But you could remove reactions and do some damage. Not something I'd cast often (at this level), but something to consider.
Other spells to look at:
Mirror Image, Misty Step, Levitate, Hold Person, Invisibility, Blindness/Deafness, Blur, Enlarge/Reduce.
2nd level spells is where you'll want to find/buy a lot of scrolls (if possible).
3rd Level Spells.
You are going to be expected to take fireball. You will be pressured into taking fireball. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE FIREBALL. You can. It's fun. It's up to you. I won't list it here.
Counterspell. You want this. You will never unprepare it.
Hypnotic Pattern. AOE Shutdown. Highly recommend.
Leomund's Tiny Hut. Safe resting is always appreciated.
Haste or Slow. I, personally, prefer Slow because of the stun if I lose concentration on Haste. Both are great options.
Fly is another good spell to have access to.
Dispel Magic. You'll want this eventually too.
Starting a campaign with my brother and his friends who ive known for probably close to ten years now ((not counting my brother lol))
Building a rogue aarakocra whos already lvl 6 since thats what they were last time they stopped to take a rl break.
Soooo stoked for it, already made a lvl20 verison of it thats a lv10 rogue/theif with a subclass hopefully starting asap being a druid of the forest also reaching lv 10 eventually.
One of my goals is to build a standing with the gryphons for my clan and to repopulate my aincent clan hehe.
I think it would be cool if when i hit lv20 i was trained in the spell of reincarnation and able to go back to my clan and show birdfolk new races i now welcome in to our flock as well as train the druids their reincarnation.
Orignaly i thought of maybe using barabian as a subclass and being able to rAGE LIKE AN ANGRY BIRD. But after reading all the spells available to the druids i thought it would fitting and i kinda fell in love with the idea. I plan to seek out dealers of gryphon eggs by using sky write and the theives language. I really wanna train/care/hunt for our mounts. Ill usually stick to forests and rooftops after of course we stop into an inn to get sloshed after a good adventure.
Any thoughts or advice? I kinda been up till 6am the last two nights writing about it lmao.
Mention Dresden files? Instant thumbs up.
It's really interesting how experiences paint your perception afterward. Other than using Wish to imitate spells like explained in this video, I played with DM that if you dared to cast this BS, you'd be looking forward to certain death, sth horrible happening and maybe eternal damnation or some other awful shit happening to your soul.
Time for simulacrum madness. As a level 17 wizard, spend the money to make a simulacrum of yourself. Now command copy 1 to cast wish, using it to cast simulacrum without the costly component to make copy 2. Copy 2 casts wish to make copy 3. Copy 3 casts wish to make copy 4. Copy 4 casts wish...
10 minutes after you finished the first copy, you have an army of 100 wizards with level 7 or lower spell slots. They go off to fight the armies of undead while you and the last copy continue making another 100 copies to help the first ones. 8 hours later, you've created 4,200 copies of yourself.
That's a lot of fireball.
How to be banned from playing any spell caster other than warlock, cleric and paladin 101.
@@WanderingTetsubo more like how to change the game from normal dnd to angering the gods and the beings who hold together reality
For cloning what if the guy dies of old age
Any spell cast with a wish spell is cast using a 9th level slot. So your planar binding would last a year and day.
This combo is incredibly powerful in combat when combined with portent. Having a Pit Fiend or Balor as a pet for a year is pretty decent. Technically you can do this every day for a year. Did someone say Decent to Avernus...
I think technically it’s cast with an 8th Level, because it has to replicate a spell that is 8th Level or lower...
@@shaynemross 8th level or lower but it's still cast using a 9th level slot. The wording is pretty clear "When you cast this spell using a spell slot of a higher level, the duration increases to... ...and to a year and a day with a 9th-level spell slot.".
It was worth mentioning that wish can duplicate ANY and ALL spell of level 8th or lower from ANY spell list and bois if it's fun to awaken (as 5th level druid spell) your ranger's animal companion, boi OH boi.
Would you say that the animal companion becomes Aware Wolf?
@@maid_of_heart3261 Yup he can even talk now as the spell skyrocket his int into 10 and teach him a language
Was just about to say Harry Dresden does this before Kelly went ahead and name dropped him. I'm still sad I never really got to mess around with higher level spell before my campaign ended.
There are some good spells here
What about combining Contingency with Simulacrum?