Vocal Coach & Songwriter React to Perennial (Live at Wacken) - Jinjer | Song Reaction and Analysis
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Yup Vortex, Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv and Homeback. All of those she goes pretty low. Pit of Consciousness arguably would be as low as she gets. I think you would both like Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal. It's just her singing to the band tracks. It's a very unique song and very good for checking out the full range of her vocals. If you want to know what she would sound like all cleans in a different genre you could check out Beggars Dance and Prologue together (each is only 21/2 minutes) and Bad Water.
And bad water, zero growls, all cleans
Agreed!
"Pit of Consciousness" - Live in Kyiv - is a masterpiece with a growling masterclass in itself.
Yeah, everything this guy said. Nothing to add.
I was never a fan of harsh vocals from anyone. I always thought people vocalized that way because they didn't have good voices. But discovering this band has definetly changed that thought. Now this is one of the bands that actually gives me hope for the future of popular music. Keep checking out their music; maybe you'll agree with me.
I think 'Judgement and Punishment' would be most interesting for you. The entire song was filmed in one take, and you only see Tatiana in profile. Her technique is clearly visible as a result
Yeah, the One Take as oppposed to Live in Australia or the weird original video.
@@Paul-jj5wy Agree; you really get to see her vocal technique and her body placement and breathwork. It's amazing; I don't particularly like the song, but it's a fantastic showcase.
Well, I speak Astronomy and Teacher Teacher could be interesting too
Her transitions from growl to clean are almost instantaneous! And she was so out of breath at the end that it's amazing she held those long phrases near the end of the song!!
Just 2 things that you didn't cover....
One of my favorite Jinjer songs! And the Vortex official video is well worth watching if you haven't done it, yet! I'm new to your channel.
Got to see them live last year!!! She sounds ABSOLUTELY amazing live!! I totally fangirled and was very happy the entire time 😆 Astrology is amazing, so is Teacher, Teacher and Vortex
I loved the intro! You guys had me laughing the whole time😭😂
Tatiana is a world class vocalist and she comes from the middle of nowhere in the scariest part of Ukraine imaginable. To say the bare minimum, Ukraine isn't exactly known for their prolific number of metal bands and a female fronted one is about as rare as hen's teeth there. That she started her musical career doing these vocals as a self trained teenaged girl literally screaming at cars passing on the highway and into her pillow at home is nothing short of phenomenal.
For Tatyana's low end you should check Who Is Gonna Be The One (Live by Napalm Records). There during the breakdown she displays huge variety of different growls from brutal death metal lows to almost high-pitched screams (but still - growls).
For low end - Pit of Consciousness Live in Kiev is also a great choice.
For me it's Home back, remember my jaw drop to the floor when i heard it first time
Vortex as well. She does it in quite a few songs.
Who is gonna be the one is one of my fav, thought no one renembers that song anymore
I’m 71 and I play Jinjer to fall asleep to.
"Pit of Consciousness" - Live in Kyiv - is a masterpiece with a growling masterclass in itself.
Judgement and Punishment one take vocal is now mandatory next reaction
One of the very best live bands on the planet today!
Tatiana’s vocals helped me get back into loving harsh vocals - it’s particularly impressive how good her articulation is, you can understand her through the growl much clearer than many other vocalists in the genre
Tatiana and the group are so excellent at what they do, really top-notch modern metal. At the forefront of heavy music today, and I think they deserve it. And with Tatiana being self-taught, what a tremendous example of the power of creativity in an artist, to forge their own path.
Morality isn’t your strong suit, is it?
Well I made it to the end! I stayed to hear you two react and explain what was going on. Get well Richard and a BIG thanks to Johnny for being in the chat.
Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Live in LA)
I'll second that
The recording is a bit rougher, but I think the overall performance is better in Call Me A Symbol (Live) - Hellfest 2022.
my fav is "Teacher, Teacher", it's very complex, different styles, rhythms, they do really difficult stuff there. other good examples have been mentioned below.
Really enjoyed your Jinjer reactions. So much fun watching your journey. Can't wait for your view of her one-take video of "Judgement & Punishment". Tatiana is such a beast, and the band is soooo tight and creative.
Great reaction.
Sounds like you are interested in Tati's low end range on harsh vocals. Pit of Consciousness Live In Kiev for sure.
Vortex has maybe the single lowest moment towards the end of the song...."swirlllll". The last sections of Home Back are very, very low. But, the best canvas for both Tati's super lows and brutal higher screams is definitely Pit of Consciousness Live In Kiev.
Vortex and Home Back are probably best watching the official videos. Both songs are captured excellently in the Hellfest From Home 2021 live footage.
But, next video should be:
Jinjer -- Pit of Consciousness (Live In Kiev) | Napalm Records.
Fantastic song and Roman's guitar riffs are fantastic in this song.
EDIT: I don't know, the burpee growls in Vortex are very low and parts of Who Is Gonna Be The One live are dirty low. Hard to pick the lowest.....just know she can get lower than Perennial.
Cheers.
You’ll love Vortex!
The lowest i've heard her go is towards the end of the song "Home back", which also is a fantastic song with a strong message, and maybe their best video to date in my opinion.
I missed this! And i love Tatiana and Jinjer.
What? People wanted to know why? Bro, it's your channel, listen to whatever you want. Tatiana is an artist!
Oh, and the band is great! Tatiana also screamed into pillows for a few years. She works very hard!
their song "Who Is Gonna Be The One" live version will show you her low end, there is even a twist at the end.
There is sn insane number of songs Jinjer does that have things you've never heard. "Who is gonna be the one -Live" she goes through pretty much her entire range of growl. To get an idea of the upper end of her cleans, and for yhe theatrics alone, I Speak Astronomy - official video". "Judgement and Punishment -1 take vocal" They do Raggae and Metal, and you can meet her cat in her home studio. Most people will say their Magnum Opus musically is Teacher Teachet, but honestly , every song they do seems to have something about it that you just smile about. Jazz with Metal, some swing elements and metal, and the further back you go you get into raw groove metal. They infuse a groove into everything. I've heard them compared to Mr. Bungle Musically. They are the most interesting band to come out in at least 20 years. You should keep going with them and really, any song is going to be as good as this. They halfass nothing.
I speak astronomy live hellfest from home (2021) is bettr (for me). The final is more impressive live than studio.
@@penseesdeseb4919 she doesn't do the full studio ending live. There's a sustained top end she doesn't do on the road
@@whispermason8052 Yes. But I feel more "soul" in live vocals so the live hit m more. But I understand your point
You guys are soooooooo brave!
This set at Wacken 2019 was riddled with tech problems. There were multiple stages and multiple performances happening simultaneously. For the first 3/4 of their 45 minute set Tati was hearing another singer through her in-ears and the stage monitors were not working for her. So she was singing without being able to hear herself at all, and it showed. They finally got it worked out, and as you can see, they are a brilliant band live. Very tight. I saw them in New Haven this past year, and they were brilliant. Tati was pitch perfect. Their sound engineer deserves a raise. Whatever they pay him is not enough. They sound so good live.
Edit: The people that don't understand why you would listen to this are simpleton chumps. They are caught up in the screaming, and can't see the forest through the trees. The mixed measure time signatures they use, and constant syncopations are 11/10 expert level difficulty. And the poetic lyrics Tatiana writes are a beautiful as any you will ever hear.
Yes!!! Vortex live
Hellfest 2021.
Yours is an empty hope, from Nightwish also a great example of switching vocals. Marko, the bass player is doing the clear vocals, Floor is doing the growling
God blessed me to saw them live and took a selfie with Tatiana.
you have to react "pit of consciousness live in kiev".... next please
Yes super low on " Vortex ". Then extremely low and pissed off in " Homeback " omv def need to check both out ..this band is simply a amazing..great reaction
A good overview of a slice of the healing systems of these games. There's a lot more that could be explored, as others have said. The additional healing systems, as well as the finer details of them like movement lock, speed of us, etc. would make for an interesting exploration of survivability in these games.
Teacher Teacher....between the vocals and the Musicianship there is no doubt of the greatness... And Yes, Vortex is a roller-coaster which needs Prep to grasp...... heh
It doesn't often get mentioned but there is a lot of broadway influence in jinjer's dramatic and dynamic songwriting, and especially in tati's stage presence.
She sings broadway music and jazz and reggae. Her huge influence is Gwen Stefani.
"Home Back" has her lowest vocals that I know of so far. And it's just an amazing song as well! \m/\m/
I think home back has more of her low end than vortex,but vortex does have 1 good deep growl
just got here during obligatory Jinjer - Pisces reaction watching. curious if you will ever get into what is probably the other most reacted to video I know of and watch ghost love score by nightwish, the live performance at waken 2013 of course. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Vocal Goddess. She gets low in Vortex but Pit Of Consciousness Live in Kiev is lower still.
I like the energy in your react :) . For the lower, Pit of Consciousness, or who's gona be the one (live melbourne especialy)
Tati is a metal goddess! My favorite is I Speak Astronomy it really shows more of Tati’s range.
Pit of Consciousness in Kyiv for sure. I saw it live and felt this deep hell with my whole body.
Also, she learned listening to Opeth as well I believe and would practice screaming at the trains. The Charasmatic Voice has a great tea time interview with Tatiana.
Tati's idols are Amy Winehouse & Gwen Stefani - You can hear the inspiration from the latter in her cleans
Growls - Hearing Otep Shamaya sparked Tati's journey down this path.
Props also have to go to Alexander Antoshin (live sound engineer) for their stellar stage sound - many of their official live vids have a touch of post prod layering added.
Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv is an all time fave for many, (their adopted home city after increasing tensions in the Donetsk region forced them to relocate in 2014).
Whole band sounds incredible on this one.
Love Jinjer and watching your reaction to them. Since you mentioned all three (classical music, Andrew Lloyd Webber, and Metal), I had to mention that you may enjoy the symphonic metal band Nightwish performing 'The Phantom of the Opera' live.
FYI, Vlad the drummer is a classical trained pianist. There is a video you should check out on your own sometime of him playing a piece.
Vortex indeed goes low, but not as low as Home Back. However, from musical perspective Vortex might make sense first. It's an interesting piece that keeps you guessing what time signature is at each point while actually being mostly 4/4.
Home Back is a song with a Message (tm), from the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine that drove them out of their homes.
It's harsh and rough and in your face for a reason.
Beethoven + Andrew Lloyd Webber = Metal. This absolutely makes sense.
She goes low in Vortex. She goes lower at the end of Home Back.
Blackie Lawless "Wild Child" played on MTV often. Fun reactions!
Vortex live at Hellfest '21. The OMV is great but, this '21 performance is KILLER!!!🤘 The OMV of Home Back is incredible. 💙💛
Good Morning R&J!!❤️
Vortex is great and so is Home Back which is about the war in Ukraine where they are from, she gets really deep in that one
Well we now by now she can get low af, the lowest I think would be the 'Vortex' ending or 'Who is gonna be the one LIVE', an awesome live performance, but as you pointed out, that's not what's their selling point, but rather the combination of a unique sound, tight playing, interesting music overall, her voice and charisma etc.
As for the influences, I remember Otep, Opeth and Lamb of god were what was named here and there. Comment section will know more.
To name but a few recommendations, 'Teacher teacher OMV', 'Vortex OMV', 'I speak astronomy OMV'.
Even then, ypu have to do "who is gonna be the one -live" just for Eugene's Bass Licks too.
Please more Jinjer lol
Lol Jinjer is ukrainian proggy djent groove metal with complex time-signature maze, polyrhythms and multi-genre blending. They are one of the most talented 4-pieces ever. Tati is one of the best overall metal vocalists and lyricists in the business.
Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session)
Jinjer - Perennial (Live At Wacken 2019)
Jinjer - Pit of Consciousness (Live in Kiev)
Jinjer - On The Top (Live in Kiev)
Jinjer - Who Is Gonna Be The One (Official Live)
Jinjer - Judgement & Punishment (Tatiana One Take Vocal)
Jinjer - Teacher Teacher (Official Video)
Jinjer - Captain Clock (Live at Resurrection Fest 2018)
Jinjer - Cloud Factory (Official Video)
Jinjer - Outlander (failure .color Video)
Jinjer - No Hoard of Value (Official Lyrics Video)
Jinjer - I Speak Astronomy (Official Video)
Jinjer - Vortex (Official Video)
Jinjer - Wallflower (Official Video)
Jinjer - Mediator (Official Video)
Jinjer - Disclosure (Official Video)
Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Video)
Jinjer - Live At Wacken 2023
The live videos you check out should be the "Official" live videos, which means Napalm has cleaned up the mix. My personal favorite is "Cloud Factory", but you will probably get a lot of suggestions for "Pit of Consciousness Live in Kiev", "On the Top Live in Kiev" and "Who is Gonna Be the One?" (best example of her rock bottom growl)
Home Back
Vortex will melt your face off. You will also partially enjoy the Jax inspired drumming as well.
You can hear her lowest in 'Home Back' - it's a great song, but very taxing emotionally. Also, 'Pit of Consciusness' live in Kiev is magnificent in that department.
Thank you for the reaction and also for educating people on metal. Many people don't understand growls and screams, but Jinjer is a great example of the band that uses these techniques not for the shocking value, but they're anchored in the emotion and meaning of their songs. If some of you don't understand what I mean I would recommend reading lyrics, especially these for 'Pisces' and 'Perennial' are poetry, but also in so many others Tatiana has done an amazing job as a songwriter.
11:16 really, the only appropriate answer.
If your musical background is musical theater, metal and Beethoven, there's a perfect band for you. It's called Nightwish, their music is calles 'symphonic metal', their current singer is one of the best singers in the world (certainly the most versatile I have ever heard, but I don't want to give too much away). The band is Finnish, their singer Floor Jansen is Dutch, and the best way to hear them for the first time is "Ghost Love Score" live at Wacken 2013 (it's an official video). I was kinda surprised I couldn't find it on your channel. Also: I love Jinjer to bits, seen them live, it was one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Wasp is one of my favorites. Try their song Blind In Texas, or their song The Manimal
Judgement & punishment live one take is pretty cool
Pit of Consciousness LIVE for the win
My understanding is that her guttural growls are even farther up than the false folds. Hers is an aryepiglottic and uvula rattle. Like a Chewbacca imitation. It's incredibly soft without a mic. They have her on a highly compressed mic, so her load singing and very soft gutturals are the same volume.
Pit of Consciousness Live in Kiev and Homeback
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Only complaint: whispers enrage me. Like the wind blowing and people breathing in my ears. I know, that's totally on me.. Maybe that's why Inlove harsh vocals and metal in general. 😅
I hope that I am not crazy and there's someone else with the same problem.
You've got to listen to, Jinger, Judgment (& punishment) Tatiana one take vocal.
Not giving too much away all I'm saying is REGGAE!
Vortex drums, incredible…as well as everything else as always but man those drums stick out.
If guys want to hear the versatility of jinjer. Check out beggers dance. Trust me you 2 will be thrown off.
Agree - especially paired with Prologue for a total of 5 minutes of music spanning a wide stylistic range, all clean vocals.
My favorite performance is Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev
Song aside, I've had a lot of trauma and mental health issues, chronic illness, etc. I have friends who aren't as far into healing as I am. I always tell them, the huge mental shift happens when you stop seeing yourself as a victim of trauma and shift to a survivor of trauma mentality. I also usually tell them that your traumatizers still have power over you as long as you're still thinking like a victim. They don't have to be present physically, they're present in your headspace, behaviors, actions. I am no longer a victim; I'm a survivor.
this song gives me major Igorrr vibes (very much recommend, maybe ieuD or Downgrade Desert) They have a lot of that... slanty kind of sound I love in this song, smooth operatics and wild harshes, and they sing in their own made up language (which does actually have meaning), which makes it able to be enjoyed for purely the vibes
You should listen to Alissa White-Gluz in her previous band The Agonist and nowadays in Arch Enemy. I’m sure you will be surprised 😅 The song that I recommend is Thank you pain 🙏
Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv. For lowest of the low, and insane fry screams.
Teacher, Teacher if you want full spectrum.
OMG I’m actually awake ….
Tatiana is something special for sure
Broadway and metal? Adrienne Cowen! All I ask of You
Vortex is ok. But the best live low end is on Pit of Consciousness (live in Kiev) I believe. Shout out to Who Is Gonna Be the One too.
Please also react to Courtney LePlante from Spiritbox! Her one take of 'Circle with me' would be a good start.
The band's discography is also really rich with interesting texture from vocals + instrumentation. Super great stuff that I know both of you will love!
And another rec I'll keep bringing up (totally different genre): Fujii Kaze's Tiny Desk Concert
my favorite song by them, there is soooo much more , low maybe homeback, whose gona be the one live , vortex is good and low but i would get some of the older stuff if you realy like them before you start into the most resent, its a gurney love the gurney go to who's gona be the one live, piece out
If you are looking to hear someone who has a most beautiful voice, plays different music, is a singer songwriter give Loreena McKennitt a listen-Bonny Portmore, Dantes Prayer, The Stolen Child, The lady of Shallot etc. She plays piano and harp
You've only scratched ghe surface of their Composition Skills. This is just a fraction of what they do musically. Here's an example, did you ever think reggae and metal work together? If you listen to jinjer (judgement and punishment, one take vocal), it's not only obvious it's how could we have ever separated the two ? Rap and Metal? Not that limp bizkit or rage against the machine, I mean blast beats and hip hop (teacher teacher). Jazz metal, home back. How about Metal and Batmans Gothem City Dark Knight soundtrack (on the top). People say you hit her bottom range in vortex, but really she shows her complete growel range in (whose gonna be the one - live and her dancing). How about Metal with an Operatic ending (I speak Astronomy). That's a must listen for the theater guys. No growers, only cleans, Bad Water. So many hooks and riffs. Jinjer \m/
React to Spiritbox - Blessed Be or Circle with Me. Tatiana and Courtey are excellent vocalists and screamers
Homeback guys
Gentlemen, Vortex is interesting and Tatiana actually goes low, but in my opinion, musically, technically, and in terms of vocal choices, Teacher will be a better choice, especially since Tati (diminutive Tatiana) shows a new genre of metal rap. Interested?
Like this genre we have Filipino bands with this kind of genre rock metal please try to react to them also greyhoundz, cheese/quezo and slapshock tia
vortex/ who is going to be the one live
punishment 2 judgement
Who is going to be the one she goes low and the live performance of sit stay roll over at Melbourne there’s a part she don’t even sound human lol and of course home back and vortex but like everyone is saying in the comments Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev is amazing
You are so selfish it almost hurts. Convince me otherwise! Greetings from Germany! Get well soon! :)
Please jump on the Disturbed train. Sound of Silence live on Conan.. please!!
Mediator and Call me a symbol next pleeeeease!!!!
Listen to Lena Scissorhands!
Please do Teacher Teacher but use captions to colab between the tones of singing to the words as metal actually matches up like that because it is not pop.
Let's react slaughter to Prevail!🤙
Wait till you guys find out about Will Ramos lol
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