Vocal Coach & Songwriter’s First Time Reaction to Pisces (Live session) - Jinjer | Song Analysis
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Join us for a live first-time reaction and analysis of Pisces by Jinjer with Guinness World Record-breaking vocal coach, Richard Fink IV, and Billboard #1 songwriter, Johnny Cummings.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
04:08 First-time hearing Jinjer
20:45 Final thoughts on Jinjer and Pisces
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ORIGINAL VIDEO(S)
▶ • JINJER - Pisces (Live ...
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JOHNNY CUMMINGS (INTRO/OUTRO)
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Thank you for all of the comments and suggestions!! We have a ton of songs on our to-do list but just wanted you to know that we WILL be circling back to react to another Jinjer song!! Thank you all for your patience - we’re excited to hear more :)
I hope Nightwish is on that list! If you enjoy Jinjer you’ll love them.
The story in the lyrics is an important part of the songs vocal choices.
_I had no idea how 'tragically brutal' the story was until I read the lyrics in detail...the ending, just wow._
greyen- mergingmoon
Ahh yes. The never ending saga of souls stolen by the great Tati and hung on the wall in her very large trophy room where she sits and smiles softly while sipping her morning coffee.
She has owned my soul since the first time i saw this video and im happy about it
I saw this comment on another reaction and I'll still like it every time lol. Good to see you again 🤣
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@@abbaa1637 looking in a mirror head ahh
@@abbaa1637 Comment section aint a mirror fam
Fun fact, Tatiana is self taught. Blows my mind every time I think about it.
the drummer is a classically trained pianist
and selftought drummer...kinda weird...But Vlad rules
And IMO one the best drummers currently playing with any band (Phil Collins & Jason Bonham not withstanding). Vlad is an extraordinary musician, watch & hear him on Mediator (Jinjer, live drum playthrough, at Szene)!
his Rachmaninov 3rd is amazing
Being a classical piano player helps also...before he was a drummer.
@@hazmania Phil doesn't play anymore. It's his son Nic that plays and he's just as phenomenal as his dad.
She does a one take vocal of their song, Judgement & Punishment. Sooo cool. I highly recommend.
Also any of their actual live performances.
The second song overwhelmingly chosen by reactors is Perennial live at Wacken. It showcases her ability to switch back and forth in a live setting with a special surprise near the very end for vocal specialists...
Yeah - I wish people would find a better example though. Don't get me wrong - that is a great performance, but it is the last song of their set and she is gassed. IMO Who is Gonna be the One - Napalm Records is a better video because it is the first song of their set and she is hyped! But there are a ton of live video of Jinger now. Perennial at Wacken is good, but in my opinion, she has actually gotten much better at her vocal control since then.
Glad you remembered this great song.
They are both great songs but Perennial, like Pisces, is a great introduction for non-metalheads. Once they are hooked, there are many, many great songs
@tattoodude8946 I think she's clearly out of breath while speaking but her vocals are still flawless in spite of it says how talented she is. Her breath control is amazing and she can switch between harsh and cleans effortlessly all day.
@@tattoodude8946 Better off using pit of consciousness live in Kiev
As a vocal coach probably best to see Judgement & Punishment one take as it's just her so you can see her techniques.
Have you guys ever checked out Nightwish? Excellent band with an amazing vocalist. If you haven't, I would recommend starting with their song "Ghost Love Score" live at Wacken. It's absolutely amazing. Great reaction and analysis of Jinjer! My recommendation for the next song by them would be "Perennial" live at Wacken. You'll get to hear her switch "in real time." 😊
Hi, listen JINJER/VORTEX......A MASTERPIECE!!!!!
Second that, Vortex!
As a voice coach and songwriter you should definitely react to the singer Floor Jansen with the band Nightwish at the 2013 metal festival at Wacken. The song Ghost Love Score gives a great sampling of her range , styles, and power of her singing. And, 95% of their music is written and composed by the keyboardist. Prepare for a wild rabbit hole ride. They are a very skillful group who play for the music not to stand out. They were playing live before a crowd of 82 thousand. They are best live.
100% Floor is amazing and opened me up to symphonic metal. She’s brilliant, though I prefer Song of Myself from Wacken 2013 a bit more.
@@JeffJacquesmd I agree that GLS is not the bands best, but, it showcases a lot of Floor’s range, styles, and vocal colors/tones.
Tati goes a lot lower in several songs. There are parts in Vortex, Home Back, Pit Of Consciousness Live in Kiev and Who is Gonna Be The One Live for starters that she goes super low.
She also performs a vey nice high scream in Pit of Consciousness Live in Kiev, so it's an excellent showcase of her harsh vocal capabilities. It's also a very interesting song musically, but much heavier than Pisces.
Pit of Consciousness is one of my favorite songs. Her scream range is showcased well, but the whole band kills that song. Vlad's fills are so inventive and on point for all of their songs, but I just love the one at the end of Pit.
Love Jinjer and this reaction. Ghost love score by Nightwish (official video) is a must. I think you guys will love it
Another commenter mentioned Floor Jansen and the Symphonic Metal Nightwish. Shes one of the very best voices in metal by her peers. Shes insane. She can even do harsh vocals like Tatiana. THe song to check out is Ghost Love SCore live at Wacken 2013. Its a roller coaster that the both of you will absolutely love. She band and her are nutz.
Not a NW fan per se, but Ghost Love Score from Wacken is a must for any reaction channel.
I have the uttermost Respect for Floor.....But i have nerver heard she can do Harsh Vocal like Tatiana...she can Growl... but it's like saying, tatian can sing Clear tones, so she can sing like Floor
@frankhermansen243 ... OK how about her harsh are pretty darn impressive?
@frankhermansen243 Her Miserys no crime in 2014 was damn good.
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Glad to see another few have been snatched by Jinger! As vocal guys, I'm super surprised to not see any Nightwish, unless I missed it! I think yall will love them too, especially with vocal analysis. Nightwish Ghost Love Score Live from Wacken 2013 is my suggestion to start. The Nightwish Army can guide you from there! Sending blessings from Alabama!
Paraphrasing here "The contrast between her clean singing and her growls is... exquisite." Indeed. It's the, to use your term, dichotomy that grabs me.
And now think about a Woman who can do some deep growls, like Tatiana in this Video, and also can sing a Puccini Aria. Impossible? No, her Name is Floor Jansen, Leadsinger of the finnish Symphonic Metal Band Nightwish. You really should do a Reaction of Nightwish - Ghost Love Score, Live at Wacken 2013. Greetings from Germany. And of course i love Jinjer and Tatiana. 😃🍺
Perrenial Live at Wacken 2019 and you will how they sound at a huge festival.
Fun fact: This video was put out to showcase the new drummer Vlad. It just so happens to be most people's introduction to Tatiana. The entire band is so skilled. It took a decade, and literally every position changing at some point.
Teacher, Teacher is my personal favorite but Vortex, Pit of Consciousness liver in Kiev, I Speak Astronomy....all great. You have a nice format, music and vocals covered.
Her ability to annunciate on the growls is INCREDIBLE. I can understand her like it is just a thick accent. Even live. It is so clear.
They made this video to highlight the drummer and it went crazy - it is the one everyone wants reactors to watch first when entering the Jinjer rabbit hole
More Jinjer! Perennial live at Wacken, Judgement & Punishment one take vocal, Wallflower, Vortex, Disclosure, Teacher Teacher, Call Me A Symbol. Two good rip your face off tracks…Sit Stay Rollover and Mediator
who is going to be the one, is an incredible song as well
Jinjer is the personification of "Learn how to do things right, so you can do them wrong correctly".
😂😂😂😂. The first time being introduced to a band by Richard and Johnny. Very interesting. Likely not one I would have found myself. Wow the differences in her voice. The band is really good. I think I have to listen to more before deciding.
I discovered Jinjer through a reaction video two years ago, and they've been my favorite band ever since. Going to see them live for the 3rd time, in April. This song is just the tip of the iceberg. Their entire catalog is just one banger after another.
@@danielbeck9310i second that emotion. Same story. I had never been a fan of harsh or extreme vocals. This song changed my world in the best possible way. They've become my favorite band since Rush retired. Their catalog is that consistently good. Their musicianship and passion are that strong. Their live ethic has that integrity. Their chemistry is that perfect. BTW, I saw Rush 36x. I hope to see Jinjer as many times. I'm at 2 so far as well. Their live performances are purely epic.
I'm jealous if you have tickets for April, that must mean Milwaukee, Vegas or Arizona. The only three American dates they've announced. I'm strongly considering the long trip from Alabama to Wisconsin or Arizona. My drummer went to Sick New World last year and that's a hard pass for me. But both those others are exactly the right kind of gig for Jinjer. Headlining, not supporting. Smallish but classy venue. General admission. You'll have every chance to get right up close to the GOATs and maybe even make eye contact with the Queen. It's an experience not to be forgotten. And it opened up a whole new world of music for me. Jinjer is an awesome gateway drug!
@ericpeterson7512 yeah, I'm going to the Milwaukee show. I plan on getting there early to get up front on the rail. I was up front both times I've seen them so far, and was incredible both times. First time I saw them, in Minneapolis, I did the meet & greet, so got to meet them and get a photo with them, which is now framed on my wall, lol.This show was originally scheduled last September, but got postponed due to travel issues. So, it's been a long wait. The original show was scheduled on my birthday, so it was kind of a gut punch when it got cancelled. They're not scheduling any more shows in the spring because they're in the studio working on a new album. Hopefully, they'll add some dates in September/October, because they'll be back in the States for Aftershock and Louder Than Life. After that they're already booked the rest of the year for tours in Europe and South America.
@@danielbeck9310 yeah that's what I'm afraid of, that they won't have any more American shows this year. If I'm gonna see Jinjer as many times as I saw Rush, I'm gonna have to get to work! I'm 61, and I saw Rush 36x lol. I'm only on 2 with Jinjer. Do the math lol.
I was up close to the rail at both of my shows. Close enough to make eye contact with the band. It's a real privilege to see a band this good, up that close. Rush quickly got beyond my range as they started headlining arenas. I was only able to see them up close a few times. It gets expensive! It's so great you can still do that with Jinjer, often for like $30! I've checked out that venue in Milwaukee, it looks great. It's a long trip from Alabama, but I might have to do it.
@ericpeterson7512 I'm driving 5 hours to Milwaukee, coming from Minnesota. That's about my limit. Any farther than that, I'll just have to wait until they come around again, lol.
Johnny's face when he first heard her transition... 😂
The crazy part is she taught herself how to scream like this. She talks about it in a few interviews
I finally got to see JINJER Aug. 12, 2023 in Syracuse, NY...amazing.
Remember Pisces represents a duality. Just like Tatiana's vocals. She is a vocal beauty and beast. Very talented band. Every song is different, and get even better once you understand the meaning behind the lyrics.
Definitely check out Perennial live at Wacken and Teacher Teacher official video.Fantastic song.
Tatiana's vocal translations are seamless and mindboggling. So captivating.
I also suggest Judgement and Punishment Tatiana's one take vocal performance version.
You speak of the drummers skill. This video was done to showcase Vlad as a new member to the band. He is also proficient as a classic pianist and as a guitar player too. Very talented
First time watching your channel, liked and subscribed. Please do more Jinjer. Now that you got the "shock value" song out of the way, you can discover how great this band really is. They have a deep catalog of incredible songs to dive into. Only 4 albums and 2 EPs, but considering just about every song on every album is very good, it's a pretty deep rabbit hole to explore. You wont be disappointed!
Hey guys, great reaction! Jinjer was the first group that made me not hate growling... and Tati being able to perform both ways of singing was something that I hadn't heard before! After going down that rabbit hole, my next one was Nightwish! And that is what I'd like to suggest to you... the song Ghost Love Score performed at Wacken 2013. So you get to experience Symphonic Metal and Floor Jansen at the forefront, who IMO is one of the most versatile and best singers in the world! 🤘🤘
2013 but close enough.
Want some more with both cleans and uncleans you might like (much more fun that usual metal :D of course you might know some of these already)
All female vocalists, mostly all female bands, 3 out of 5.
Hanabie - We Love Sweets MV
Nemophila - Ama Te Ras
Broken By The Scream -Sayonara Birthday
Gacharic Spin - I WIsh I MV
Passcode - Groundswell
@taihavard549 I only recognize the name Nemophila but I've never listened to them.
There alot of amazing woman that can do amazing clean and harsh. Alissa White Gluz of Arch Enemy, Melissa Bonney of Ad Adfinium. That's just for starters.
@@paulriddle7818 Yup
Have been enjoying the women who can do uncleans more than the guys recently.
For instance I have usually found Metalcore a bit love hate because I loved the energy and uncleans, but often found the male clean vocal styles in that genre a bit... moany.
But a mix of great uncleans and cleans that are more to my taste, plus many of the bands being all female leading to quite different lyrics and energy (up beat, fun) has been grabbing me.
All of those are worth checking out, I bet at least a few might hit for you.
Arch Enemy are great, and Alissa, especially that song with Nita Strauss.
@@paulriddle7818 yup, fixed it! Thanks
In interviews Tati talked about how she spent a long time perfecting her growls because she wanted to sound like the male singers who growled. Usually women who do harsh vocals have a distinct quality from having a naturally higher voice, but she decided she didn't like that sound and spent ages working out how to sound more like a male vocalist doing growls. It's wildly impressive.
I discovered Tati and Jinjer about 7 months ago during a late night listening session.
I never get tired of seeing reactions to this specific song, given its soft almost pop like “chill” sections.
Her vocal control is astounding.
I am 62 and I flew from California to Ohio to see jibjer with my son in’21 🔥🔥🤟
Must do no hoard of value, pit of consciousness ( live Kiev )
Good for you. I'm a senior too and like Zhou Shen as well a Jinger. Ren is a great performer and music very unusual.
Wow what can I say - That's something new and extraordinary you you have introduced me to yet again.
Great performance from Jinjer AND the band.
Welcome to the Jinjer Army my friend! They are Jinjer, she is Tatiana. They're all amazing at their instruments, including Tati, whose voice is an incredible instrument in its own right.
I hope you check out more Jinjer. You won't be disappointed. And if you're like me, they'll quickly become one of, if not your favorite band. They're that good! Enjoy!
I Speak Astronomy by Jinjer is absolutely amazing.
Jinjer always does their best work live.
I am laughing already, awaiting the response...😂
I got to see them open for Disturbed, and it was amazing. The whole band is solid AF.
Good morning! Now im in for the first time! Yey! From the Philippines here, living in Colorado.
Ah..you meet the Mistress of Sudden light and Darkness.. The whole band
are total craft Meister's as you have seen but the Tatiana small and introverted has entire Star systems within her.
That she can switch and run between her voices, is her incredible gift and she might well be the origin of all such inspiration.
The band have special cultural status.. as performing ambassadors to their home, Ukraine.
May I suggest, Teacher Teacher as a follow up..😎👍🏼 Slava ....🧙🏼♂️🇬🇧
A logical follow up for this song is the one take performance of Circle With Me - Spiritbox
I saw Jinjer on their last tour through Toronto. Killer show. If they come to your town, I highly recommend going. You won't be disappointed. Sounds even better live.🤘🤘
I really love that you both made a point of praising the band, in addition to Tati. Jinjer is an AMAZING band, some of the best modern metal, and they are ALL incredible musicians.
Ah, Tati. Note that this is not her "normal" clean voice; she intentionally sounded lighter? breathy? She emulated a different style to make her harsh vocals pop in the chorus. She knows her voice. She is self taught.
Another good growler is Alyssa White-Gluz of Arch Enemy. And Mayu of Nemophila, though she is higher in range
You missed Courtney LaPlante from Spiritbox
Good catch that this is not her normal clean voice. It's softer, breathier, smoother. And the contrast is more stark than usual, which makes it perfect both for the song and for reactors.
I second the motion on Alissa, Mayu and Courtney! Also check out Brittney from Unleash the Archers, Jessie from Ankor, Maria from Future Palace (try Malphas) and my new favorite: IKINÄ from Finland, with two amazing badass female singer/screamers, Katariina and Tuuli, who do it all in perfect harmony. Their video for Rituaali is the tip of the iceberg! Three albums of greatness.
In "who is gonna be the One - Live" she goes way lower... and it is a great track too. "pit of consciousness (live in kiev) " is amazing too.... and many more.
And, Pisces is Jinjer for beginners. Wait til you get to some other stuff! My current favorite is Vortex. Judgement and Punishment one take is the best second step listen. It’s good for analyzing, understanding and geeking. Also, Teacher Teacher is a good next listen. It’s a concert compilation video.
Just created Jinjer station on Pandora...can't get enough!
Excellent reaction guys! I'm new to your channel, but not to Jinjer, or to Jinjer reaction videos. Instant sub and like. I like your discernment. Good combo of vocal understanding/appreciation and compositional knowledge. And that's all put to good use with Jinjer!
More Jinjer please! You can't go wrong anywhere you turn. They're just all good. I'm a pro musician and singer for 45+ years, and these guys excite me like few bands have. Their sound is amazing. Their musicianship is off the charts. Their tightness and cohesion is almost superhuman, like a flock of birds all changing direction at once. Their live passion and precision are legendary and thrilling. Their professionalism is impeccable. They blend multiple genres. And they're unpredictable; there's a surprise in almost every song, like old school breakfast cereals lol. The songwriting is captivating. Great reaction fodder.
Jinjer is both a fine wine and a gateway drug. I never enjoyed harsh vocals until Tatiana. She's stoked an appetite for more, and I've discovered a whole world of amazing bands. Maybe none quite as great as Jinjer, but nonetheless excellent. I've found a special affinity with women who can both sing and scream beautifully. Spiritbox, Arch Enemy, Ankor, Future Palace, Vintersea, Infected Rain, Hanabie, Lutharo, Rage of Light, and many others. And my new favorite: IKINÄ from Finland, featuring not one but TWO killer badass female singer/screamers in Katariina and Tuuli. They can do it all in perfect harmony, and they front an amazing band. Check out their video for Rituaali--but it's just the tip of the iceberg. The latest album is heavy, dark and djenty ala Spiritbox's latest (though it came out earlier) but all three albums are packed with banger after banger.
Nice drop, guys thanks!
It was my first time here.
I’m so glad you’ve watched them! 😊🫶🏼
The time signature flips between 7/8 and 6/8. That's nothing, though. Their song I Speak Astronomy goes through four time signatures in the first minute!
If you're interested in more, but different, female pyrotechnic vocals, may I suggest Way Too Long by contemporary prog band Bent Knee, fronted by Courtney Swain.
Hi from the UK 🇬🇧 something you might like to check out the band is called Nightwish it's a symphonic metal band from Finland 🇫🇮 with a Dutch singer floor jansen ( the vakyrie) This band has a massive following in Europe and the Internet the go to song to start your Nightwish journey is
Nightwish ghost love score wacken open air concert 2013 official music video
And prepare for the Nightwish army arriving at the door 🚪 lol 😊
Teacher teacher is an even more impressive video for her voice. She is a bad ass all the way through
you should JINGER live
Congratulations guys, 125k subscribers woohoo!
126K already! 🥳
This was an absolute joy to watch, my favourite reaction video. Loved it guys. This performance is one of my absolute favs alongside alongside queens live performance of somebody to love in montreal. The demonstration of talent vocally and the band is of the chart. A truly great performance
The Queen and her Army.
A little disclaimer: the vocals in the video's final audio mix were not from this live session, they were from the album recording, with a few edits and adds: they cut the harsh vocals part in the belting segment at the end and add a few layers of harsh vocals to the chorus part. This is mentioned in the video description, they weren't trying to deceive anyone.
Mind you, all the vocals were done by Tatiana for the album, they were just arranged differently for this version because the video was filmed to showcase the, new at the time, drummer and not the vocals. What you saw Vlad, Roman and Eugene play in the video are what you heard but obviously they added a different clean and distorted guitar track, also from the album recording.
Can't wait to watch you guys react to Perennial (live at Wacken 2019) for some amazing breath control and switch-ups from harsh to clean on a dime and to Who's Gonna Be The One (live) or Pit of Consciousness (live in Kiev) for some deep, deep growls, Banshee-high screams and a little surprise at the end of WGBTO. 😉
please try Nightwish - Ghost Love Score live at Wacken - symphonic metal....
If you want to hear her go higher… I Speak Astronomy
If you want to hear her go lower… Home Back…
Tati is simply amazing…
I love I speak Astronomy but they have a different drummer. That drummer is really good too.
Cool reaction. Vocal Coach and Songwriter there, listen to The Warning "Hell Uou Call a Dream" Live from Pepsi Center...
Yes absolutely, you guys would like The Warning and the newer song Live from Pepsi Center is a new high point for them. You’ll be seeing more and more about them, they’re playing Wacken this year and dozens of other festivals this summer.
You guys a great, it makes real fun to look your vids! Regarding Jinjer: after this total distraction by the first encounter with Tati and this fantastic musicians - take also a look at the lyrics, they have the same quality as anything else regarding the band!
Jinjer's mexican fan here 🇲🇽🇲🇽
Please react to their song On the top, live in Kiev
i just love the difference in reaction. one is like all the others: wtf is happening here? and the other turns into fanboy instantly!
Men,
My first time visiting your two channel. Jinjer is the band. The lady singing is Tatiana. A couple of key points they are from the Ukraine and English is not their/her primary language. A hint when the drummer switches over to rim shots, business is about to pick up!!! This ladies vocal skills are special. She figured out how to do this by herself!!! I have seen people become frightened by her growl. It took a while for me to realize the band members are good also. I guess I was focused on that good looking singer!!!
I shall submit to you two that this group is the best thing EVER to come out of the former U.S.S.R. By far the best!!!!!! Her stage presence is unmatched! Men you may want to locate and review their sit at Wacken Music festival. There are videos of her speaking and showing her stage makeup. And she is interviewed by Elizabeth of the Charismatic Voice. ALSO
Miss Christina Russo an opera singer formally trained singer is trying to learn how to do this. it is a funny video...
Men I agree with you this is WOW!!!! Thank you gentlemen!!!! This was FUN......... Wacken.
🔥Welcome to Jinjer, Richard and Johnny! I just found your channel, great reaction (I loved seeing Richard on a happy roller-coaster and Johnny's shock to the depths of hell 😅), subbed! Thank you for bringing the fantastic genre twisting music of Jinjer to more people! I love their energy, how tight they are, the heaviness mixed with complexity and groove, beautiful singing and growling and especially Tatiana's lyrics!
The first time I heard Pisces in 2019 I hadn't liked any metal with growling and it took me a few listens to start liking it, but now Tatiana is my favorite vocalist and Jinjer my favorite band (Pisces has been my wake up alarm for a few years and I still love it more every time I hear it).
TLDR: skip to the last paragraph 😂
Sorry for the long comment, I just love Jinjer too much and love seeing people discover (and usually fall in love with) them and each of their songs!
My three favorite comments about Jinjer that I've seen, "terrifying levels of talent", "I hate it when a Jinjer song ends", and "that was more unexpected than my first child" 🤣
All four current members of Jinjer have essentially no formal musical training except Vlad the drummer who studied classical piano. For most of their songs, the three guys write most of the instrument music, then Tatiana writes most of the lyrics and melodies (she gets tons of well deserved credit hfor her vocal and stage performance abilities, but maybe not quite enough for her lyrical and musical composition abilities). Roman the guitarist has written a lot of the instrument music in the past, so he's a huge part of the beautiful sound of Jinjer, but Vlad the drummer (who also plays guitar and classical piano, but so far not in most Jinjer songs - I think he played piano in lainnereP) has been writing more of it and wrote nine of the eleven songs for the latest album Wallflowers. Eugene composes some - he wrote the instrument music for one song on Wallflowers and a few songs on other albums, and I know that apart from his amazing work on the bass, he adds riffs and has written lyrics for a few Jinjer songs.
Jinjer has been a tour-heavy band, touring almost nonstop from 2013 to 2020 and much of the time since then (with interruptions by covid and the US backed coup/proxy war), hard work that has made them fantastic live performers. The band (all members have been Ukrainian, with Russian their first language) started in eastern Ukraine in 2009 as a group of three (then five) with none of the current members (they consider the official start of the band when Tatiana replaced the male vocalist and Roman joined as lead guitar 2009/2010), Vlad is the fifth drummer (joined in 2016) and it's been a group of four since 2015 (though they consider their road sound engineer Sasha to be a fifth member). I think they're still friends with all the former members and you can see their former guitarist turned actor, Dmitry Oksen, in older videos on guitar and a more recent video (Disclosure) playing an interrogator.
One of the things I love most about Jinjer is the messages in Tatiana's lyrics and the way she combines growling and beautiful singing with Jinjer's fantastic instrumentals to be so powerful for expressing the anger and pain in those messages: the anti-war message in Home Back, the anti-greed in On The Top, Mediator and No Hoard Of Value (also the horror of the coal mining industry in their home Ukraine), the protest song Who Is Gonna Be The One, the anti-fascism of Sit Stay Roll Over, the anger at people being narrow minded in Teacher Teacher and Judgment & Punishment, the struggles with mental health in Pit Of Consciousness, Vortex, Wallflower and Perennial, the giving voice to mother nature angry at humanity for letting capitalism destroy her in a bunch of songs like Ape, The Prophecy, Cloud Factory, Noah, Outlander and Bad Water. Other favorites are I Speak Astronomy, Retrospection, Words of Wisdom, Just Another, Captain Clock, Scissors, Exposed As A Liar, I Want It I'll Get It, A Plus Or A Minus, Dip A Sail, When Two Empires Collide, lainnereP, Prologue and Beggar's Dance (those last two are short album bookends that could do well together in one reaction if you're so inclined).
I haven't found a Jinjer song I don't love, so I think you can't go wrong if you choose any of them, but a few good choices might be Perennial (official and/or live at Wacken, both are must-see), Teacher Teacher (official), Judgement & Punishment (official and/or Tatiana's one take performance, again both must-see), Pit of Consciousness (official and/or live in Kiev/Kyiv, a third where both are absolutely must-see) or the heartwrenching plea against war in Home Back (official video).
Thank you, Richard and Johnny! I hope you'll keep trying out more Jinjer songs and enjoy! ❤🖤🤘
Great reaction again guys. You got your selfs a new subscriber. Cheers from a finn in Sweden.🎉
Few points worth noting:
- The mic type. It shows that the growl is actually not very loud, just very much amplified
- This *is* partially prerecorded, you can hear layering there, added to the scream and to the regular voice (e.g. she's whispering in some moment)
- Belting up to F5 is a tell-tell sign that she's using her voice correctly
Great explanation of how the growl is produced!
You should watch the video from The Charismatic Voice where they took the lead singer of Lorna Shore and had a camera put down his throat to see what is going on when they do screams, growls, etc.
You guys are so fun and knowledgeable. Also, your reaction to her voice change was delightful to watch. I will be watching more of your channel going forward!! Also I am loving listening to you talk about the different folds and how they work. Super fascinating!
Sooooo talented! I can never get enough of this. And yesssss to Perennial Live at Wacken. Incredible!
Great reaction to this song and awesome commentary. Such a great song--Tati gives me vibes of Otep.
*Never gets old to see first time reactors to Jinjer* (When fans tell you about songs....Stop sneak peeking into it and just do it)
from what i understand, these were live vocals, however some of the "crazy" ones were layered in post-production.
None of it is live, it's the same vocals as the album version. If they added anything it was also prerecorded. This is lip synced.
The video description sounds like they were recoding vocals to layer into the original recording. Stacking the album version over this they sync up perfectly so the original recording is definitely in there. That said, their actual live stuff is phenomenal so (shrug)
@@j.f.fisher5318 The main difference is the new drum track and a few production tweaks here and there. The tracks are even an identical length so little has changed. This is the best version of this song though.
Tbh I think there are more impressive vocal performances by Tati anyway. The Judgment and Punishment one take for instance, or Pit of Consciousness in Kiev.
But this is essentially a music video.
The whole band is so tight..awesome ❤❤❤
Fun fact. Tatiana heard a band that influenced her so much when she was young that she used to practice this into her pillow late at night to learn how to do this. She's basically self taught.
Well you need to check out Perennial Live from Wacken 2019, you'll be blown away!
Judgement and Punishment the one take version should be your next video of Jinjer
I also recommend to read a little of the bands background, and listen to their song "Homeback", really deep, powefull song and the last lows of Tatiana... wooww
Yess go and check out two sides of the jinjer spectrum . On one end a bit similar but not Wallflower and on the other side Sit stay roll over to knock your socks of. Enjoy the jinjer rabbithole.
I absolutely LOVE this reaction! You guys gained a new subscriber with your reactions! Too fun!!!!
Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars (Live @ Sonic Pump)
Seen jinjer twice and met them once they are even more amazing live her changes are flawless and not to even mention how amazing the entire band is live you will always be in shock and awe and love it everytime
The verse is in 7/8 a pattern of 4 followed by a pattern of 3
I love metal!!
Check out “Judgement and Punishment” next. Also, I am surprised you have not reacted to Nightwish yet, “Ghost Love Score” live at Wacken Open Air 2013.
I love the way you 2 do this of this one. I will say that teacher teacher is my favorite. I would also suggest that you look at the warning 3 sisters from Mexico
This band is amazing! ❤😅
She goes even lower. Check out Pit of Consciousness Live in Kiev (preferred) or Who is Gonna Be the One.
Her name is Tatiana and she's an AMAZING singer. The band, and she, is Czech. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!!!
No, they come from Ukraine.
Teacher teacher -jinjer is a must
It is layered post-production, but the main vocal parts are indeed live.
This song brought me to your channel. I thoroughly enjoyed this reaction and now I’m off to check out more of your videos! Perhaps you’ll get a new subscriber! Great reaction, guys!
Some others you have to listen to that show the diversity of Jinjer… Teacher Teacher, Who is Gonna be the One, and Judgement and Punishment live booth take.
in a very nice tea time interview with Elizabeth Zharoff Tati said she found that sound screaming at cats that were driving by on the big streat where she lived.
and she's to brilliant live. saw the whole band last summer. sooooo good.
Fun fact: Tati isn't the first woman to adopt this style of singing. It's been in use since the 90's. However she is one of the few who have mastered the fast transition. Going from clean to distorted/growls in a split second. Example: "Perrenial" Live @ Wacken. Tati does have a very deep and powerful growl as others have noted. Prime examples include: " Pit of Consciousness" Live @ Kiev, "Vortex", " Home Back", " Retrospection." to name a few. However she doesn't have the deepest growl of women singers out there atm. Some alternative singers to check out would be Yu Umehara formerly of MergingMoon. A good example of Yu's range can be found in the song "Greyen". They have a great live version on their YT channel. And then if you want to hear a plethora of female growlers. Japan has several coming up through the ranks. Some bands to check out would be: Broken By the Scream, Hanabie, Passcode just to name a few. And then there is the newer female sensation. Often called " The Female version of Will Ramos." Yasmin Liverneaux Belkhodja of the band Face Yourself. She will blow your socks off for sure.
Vortex, Teacher Teacher & Judgment & Punishment (the one vocal take vid) would all be great for next up, but theres a lot more great options too, you could go for a while with this band!
ooooh.... Tatiana......😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍