Jinjer BEAST MODE 👹 - Perennial (Live) - Vocal Coach Reaction & Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- @JinjerMetalBand legit slays it at Wacken 2019. The growling still freaks me out a bit, but no one can deny all badassery happening across this entire performance!
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Tatiana loves reggae. The song Judgement and Punishment really show cases the reggae influence. There is a really fun official video for it, and Tatiana did a fantastic one take video of it during the lockdown that is highly recommended.
Cool, can’t wait to check that one out!
Kudos for trying the growls, and don't feel bad - she started getting serious about learning to perform in 2002 or 2003, singing with every band that would let her (7 before Jinjer and a side project after) and didn't start performing with growls until the band before Jinjer in 2008. Since then she's been constantly growing with noticeably better both growls and cleans over intervals of about 2 years. As with so many things there's no substitute for time, though your related experience and knowledge will no doubt shortcut the process. Cheers!
She's a phenomenon when you see Jinjer live, and the band are brilliant.I saw them supporting another band last year - and went to see Jinjer, not the headliner.
Agreed. I just saw them a week ago and it was amazing!
I've seen them twice as a headliner, and will be seeing them a 3rd time as a headliner because that's where they belong.
The song is about Tatiana's struggles with Seasonal Affective disorder and how she will recover and return like the perennial flowers in spring. As vocal coach you would love "Judgement and Punishment" (One take vocal performance). You will be able to see her technique up close.
I think that one will have to be my next Tatiana reaction! 👍
@@YourOnlineSingingCoach are you familiar with the name eivor? you as a vocal coach, she will let your jaw drop
Hi, YOSC! Great reaction to this live performance by Jinjer. I love Tati's speaking voice, with its depth and pure tone. Jinjer plays to backing tracks, which provide instrumentals that are impractical to tour with, as well as backing vocals and growl layering. This is a difficult way to perform live because it can make the performance sound mechanical and lifeless. It's a testament to Jinjer's musicianship that the band never sounds artificial or plodding. Amazing! I think you'd like the songs Teacher Teacher and Vortex.
I was supposed to see them for the first time. 8-18-23. Missed their entire set. I got to see breaking Benjamin 🙄
This is such a beautifully poetic song, lyrically. And musically it's got such a contrast between it's soft almost lullaby moments and it's absolute brutality. Obviously Tati is the main attraction with Jinjer. But this was the first song where I realized how brilliant the rest of them are. On that long one breath belt she does, notice the complicated chord progression they play behind it. It's not at all what you expect musically, yet after hearing it you realize it's perfect and how could you possibly expect anything else. The band is incredibly tight. They truly play as one singular instrument, with complete synergy, equaling something greater than the sum of their parts.
also I can't help but notice a pitch difference in this video, which I've seen at least 100 times. It almost sounds slowed down. I don't notice it sounding slower, but it sounds lower, the way something does when it's slowed down.
Edit: It does in fact seem to be a bpm or 2 slower on your video than when I play it from the source. Must have happened in the editing. Just an observation. Thought I was going crazy.
I heard the pitch varying. It would drop in pitch for a second or some fraction occasionally.
Agree there is much more to observe, respect, and admire with the whole band. 👍. Very bummed about the slow down, that did happen without me realizing it, I’ve noticed it before with some other videos and it has to do with the format of the video that I download not being compatible with my editing software. Will be mindful of this with future Jinjer reactions!!!
As soon as the song started I immediately noticed that the speed wasn't right and when it slows down, the pitch usually follows. But it's not constant, for some reason it goes in and out of speed during the video.
Btw, it's _"between _*_its_*_ soft almost lullaby moments and _*_its_*_ absolute brutality."_ 😉
Tatiana lured me in...The Band made me stay
I went to their show last month. They own the stage! It was incredible 🤘😈🤘
Vortex official video next one by jINJER
The thing about this video few remember to point out is that it’s the very last song in the whole show. She’s completely out of breath before and after, but the song itself is fully in control, super precise and perfect. That’s impressive af.
The Power of Tatiana's vocals sear over the crowd amazingly, as for her Screams & Growls, they're perfect.
[Tatiana first practiced "growling" whilst screaming out the song "Dig" at traffic beside a highway back in Ukraine where she started her journey.]
Practise makes perfect but overall if you're new to Growling it shouldn't hurt your throat, if it does then you're not doing it right. It is the 'false vocal folds' that are engaged when making such sounds.
Great reaction!
Jinjer - Perennial (Live at Wacken 2019)
Jinjer - Pit of Consciousness (Live in Kiev)
Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session)
Jinjer - On The Top (Live in Kiev)
Jinjer - Who Is Gonna Be The One (Official Live)
Jinjer - Judgement & Punishment (Tatiana One Take Vocal)
Jinjer - Teacher Teacher (Official Video)
Jinjer - Captain Clock (Live at Resurrection Fest 2018)
I'm not sure what's going on, but the sound playback seemed to be slowing down a tiny bit after each time you paused. Really noticeable by the end where Tati was much lower and less bright sounding. Great reaction, just wanted to make sure you were hearing the performance as it was.
I did hear it at original speed, and I’m disappointed to hear that it warped during conversion ☹️👎 There are certain file types that iMovie (what i use for editing) doesn’t seem to like. sometimes I catch it and sometimes (like in this case) I don’t. Another reason for me to graduate from iMovie to better editing software!
Great reaction! Liked and subbed! You're getting the subtlety as well as the power of Tatiana. She's not just screaming. There is so much control, technique, expression, pure passion in her vocal delivery. She gets her whole body involved in a way few can. Her performance level reminds me of P!nk or Gaga. Then add the harsh vocals! She's stunning!
Someone once said the human voice is the ultimate synthesizer, and that stuck with me. I'm a devotee of the variety of sounds that can come out of a human being's mouth. It's an endlessly fascinating variety. Tatiana is my favorite singer because she can do SO MUCH with her voice. So many colors, flavors, and textures! She's an artiste. A Picasso of vocals.
Thanks for treating Jinjer with respect and professionalism. Their music is quite complex and the musicianship is superb. Now if you need a change of pace try the new release of the song “Somewhere” by VOCTAVE. ♥️🎶
Always have respect for anyone that attempts a scream on camera. Keep working at it and you will get there! It takes time to dial in the combination of air flow, pressure, constriction and use of articulators to achieve the sound you're looking for. I recommend using forward tone placement as well.
She's dressed like a Ferrero Rocher, a very pretty one. I can't listen to this all the time but wow what a talent!!
I enjoyed your Jinjer and Tatiana analysis. They have been my favorite band for about 6 years now. There is so much great music with this group and with Tatiana’s collaborations with other groups like 12ft Ninja.
💪"Badassery"... and "beast mode"... both very appropriate descriptions! Glad "Teacher Teacher" is on the list, look forward to it.
As a vocal coach you'd be very much interested in Jinjer "Judgement & Punishment", there's a live 1 take version of Tatiana in the studio.
Great reaction! I don't know if it's on purpose for copyright purposes or if it's the version of video you're watching, but it sounds off, like it's not in the right key, it's lower than it should be, just letting you know. 🙂
I think the playback speed was adjusted because the song sounded a bit slower than usual as well.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Slightly slower ad lower in pitch.
I'm so glad you mentioned that, I thought I was losing my mind. 😅
@@johncornelius9430I briefly thought I might be having a stroke.😂
Yeah.. if you're doing it for copyright, fear not. They don't pull that crap with reactors.
And yes, it sounds friggin weird😂
My favorite band of all times. I got to see JINJER on Aug 12 in Syracuse, NY....awesome show.
I just saw them in Niagara Falls!
The one you were struggling to remember is 'Judgement and Punishment'. It's a one take vocal. It's amazing.
Jinjer is a fantastic band. Another band you might like is Spiritbox.
1:25 - Tatiana doesn't hold the mic like that just to be cool or because it's so "Rock". She has explained in many interviews that she does it because her hands are small and she's afraid to drop the mic, so by grabbing it that way she has more grip. She has also mentioned that grabbing the mic the "normal" way made her feel like an ESC singer.
6:22 - Don't worry, Tatiana said that the first time she tried it she sounded like a cow. She was so disappointed that she almost gave up. Fortunately she didn't. 😀
7:45 - In case you're wondering, the vocal harmonies in this part were added in post-production. They use backing tracks with noises, sound effects or additional guitar and vocal parts for some songs, which are launched from a laptop controlled by Vlad (the drummer) that also supplies the click track that everyone has in their in-ear monitors to keep everything in perfect alignement, but this wasn't the case.
I'm delighted that you realize you're just not used to the growling but you're giving it time to appreciate it's place. I friggin loathed growing when I first heard it and for a good while after. I was an eighties teen and u want having none of that crap.
Well, I was dead wrong.
Embrace this new method of expression. It absolutely had its place. 🤘
You need to react to Outlander. Tati shows true Hair mastery..
This was what I was gonna say...Tati's long dread days...she has a masterful hair flip in Outlander that doesn't even look real, her hair reforms & sits like it never moved at all
Reggae= Judgement and Punishment ( one take vocal).
Thank you! 👍
Really liked the reaction. Love jinjer
I knew you'd dive back into jjinjer again after you heard pisces.
Some say if you play her records backwards you hear god
To put it simply: She's a rockstar!
I would like to recomend two live perfomances by Jinjer, that i think is awesome. Who is gonna be the one, and I Speak Astronomy (live from Summer breeze 2018). This band has been a huge part of my playlist this year. Amazing singer, very creative music and phenomonal talent from all of them.
Fantastic song. The whole band is very talented.
Tatiana's performance and stage presence is incredible. Definitely check out Teacher Teacher official video Tatiana's vocal translations are seamless and mindboggling.
Also Judgement and Punishment Tatiana's one take vocal performance version.
One of my favorite parts of this videoi is at the beginning. Tati walks to Vlad the bald drummer and starts primping her hair. As if to say to Vlad, "hey look, I have hair". So vlad starts primping his own imaginary hair back at her. That sort of playful banter is a sign that it's probably never a dull moment being in this band. ❤🤍💙
Judgement (and Punishment) is probably the song you're thinking of for the one with reggae. Several versions to choose from, the vocal one take video, the MV , or live in Melbourne 2020. Teacher Teacher is great, and for a song from the most recent album try Vortex.
Two songs of their most recent album don't get mentioned enough in the comments section IMO. Vortex is a beast of a song, with her deepest growl to date, but for you, I'd recommend Wildflowers which is poetry and gorgeous singing making art.
If you want something completely free of the harsh vocals, check out Bad Water!
Amazing reaction ❤
The band plays with contrast the whole time, by changing from smooth to harsh singing, by means of the lyrics, and by Tati physical expression on stage, and by the imagery on their videos... Duality is everywhere. It unsettles you, invites you to a not always easy journey. The result is so rich! It is not merely theatrical, it's meaningful, profound.
Hi! Really enjoyed how you paid attention to the small details like hair flip and usage of a massive stage space (omg I cannot imagine how that feels to be performing in such a big space, this is so top-notch professional)!
If you take requests from the comments section, I would try and recommend watching an awesome performance of a Japanese band called Dir en Grey with their song Vinushka. There is a great translation made by Kaya from their A View Of The Acro concert. If would be so interesting to hear your professional commentary about that because there are so many cool things about what the vocalist is doing both performance-wise is vocally. This is not a typical metal concert presentation and I love this band because of how they turn every single track into a work of art with their lives. There is also heavy growling/screaming parts from the vocalist as well as amazing clean tones and I hope you will enjoy his voice as much as we, their fans, do!
My favorite thing about this band is that they treat the soft, quiet parts with the same respect they give the full-blown metal. There's not even a begrudging "yeah, we know this is necessary, but we can't wait to head-bang" feeling to it. They don't look bored or as if they aren't into it, and that's great.
Such a great reaction and analysis, thank you.
These are my recommendations for, Jinjer, tracks: 'Teacher Teacher' the official music video; 'Judgement (and Punishment)' Tatiana's One-Take Vocal version (you get to see Tatiana close up so, you can study her in more detail); 'Home Back' the official music video (this is a very personal track for the band, it's about the 2015 invasion of the area of the Ukraine which the band are from by Russian troops); 'Call Me A Symbol' the official music video; 'Vortex' the official music video, there are other tracks but these are some of the best in my opinion.
She's tiny, but her stage presence is HUGE!
I came across Jinjer a few weeks ago for the first time and its a crazy rabbit hole , I have spent days just watching reaction vids its full time thing in itself. Her lyrics are very deep and this as with pieces it was the duality that us a pisces face
Pisces swimming through the river
All their life against the stream
Searching for a hook to catch on and see their sun beam
Then suffocate in painful tortures
Then this song
Perennial" by Jinjer is a song about the cycle of life and death. It speaks of a moment where the speaker, inspired by nature and the changing of the seasons, is saying goodbye to an old, exhausted life and looking forward to a new one. The lyrics of the song also reflect the cyclical nature of life, as death is followed by rebirth, resembling the idea that life is a circle. The song goes on to reflect on the destruction of life to make way for something new, and finally, it looks to the renewing of life from the ashes of death, acknowledging the beauty of both destruction and rebirth.
I highly suggest Teacher Teacher thats a amazing performace but the her songwriting is AMAAZIIINGGGGGGG
""Good evening, kids. Take your seats. Open up your Bibles
I’m gonna chastise a rival so keep your eyes wide open
The young soul lost control, made her first faul
This is my duty to set the bounds
Dear Lord, forgive me as I’m slapping this sinful child
By your hand I’m led so I will show what is wrong and what is right
When their prejudice let us down
We stand firmly on our ground
Don’t let their school make a fool of you
Because the teachers may be fools too
its a rabbit hole FOR SURE and the band and her and the lyrics are on a whole other Im hooked lol
It's more than her just having it dialed in. She also has a much deeper speaking voice than you, and likely a larger larynx and pharynx, and just over all bigger resonant space. I'm no expert, but I would imagine with a growl that is little to no actual vocal pitch production and really just resonance of tissue vibration, the large resonant space makes for something that is more god given than learned. Of course she is skilled beyond measure, but she also is working with equipment I think most of us just don't have, especially women.
Seeing Jinjer's reactions is always magical hehe
all their musicians are really amazing, and Tatiana has a great voice!!!!
If you could check out a band called Nemophila they have another one of my favorite female vocalists of all with a great voice (Mayu) they are from Japan and although they are not a big band, they are becoming known in this side of the world, and they are a great band too.
I recommend song the song: NEMOPHILA - ADABANA
greetings from méxico!!! :3
дякую писня крута спасиби 🥰🤘
Thank you for your professional reaction to a world class band!!!!!!!!!!!!
I recommend a different track with vocal reggae vibes by Tati: "JINJER - Judgment (& Punishment) - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Performance."
lovely greetings from a german musician
"Badassery"😅🤘
The one take of judgment and punishment is the best for a vocal breakdown
I have absolutely zero understanding of vocal technique and am probably a worse singer than I realize, but I have had success with harsh vocals, especially growls, by focusing on the area where deep breathing is controlled, around your center of gravity in the hips. You have to summon that monster from deep inside.
🤘🇺🇦🤘
BTW if you're changing the pitch of these jinjer videos, you should know their publishers are reacter friendly.
Ale from The Warning has a great hair flip
It is Super !!!!!!!!!!!!!°°°°°°
Super!!!
The video audio sounds deeper than it normally does
Tati said she sold that Gold Jumpsuit to a dude/fan for a couple bucks. Lucky bastard!
As far as I know, she nrver said that. The outfit was sold in some merch table when they were touring the US in 2019. Sold for like 500-600$ US.. not a couple of bucks
@@cooltechnician yeah, for a bunch of bucks but is still was sold :)
She wore a silver Jump Suit when I saw them live. It looked like the gold one. She could have even had multiples. That’s cool though that she sold at least one of them to a fan.
If you're still not sold on the growls try Bad Water. Tatiana sings with all clean vocals. Definitely worth checking out.
You must react to Eivor The last kingdom Main theme Live at Hammersmith Apollo
It's 🤯
Well see also the band Parasite inc. With the songs The pulse of the dead, cyan night dreams , i am .
❤❤
Can you give a reaction to Emma Kok "viola " with Andre Rieu she is trending for the past Two weeks it's so emotional it makes you cry
Tatiana performed with one of her previous bands Kodry Nirvana's cover show. With a strong latin jazz and raggae vibe.
It was about 16+ years ago. I guess she was a high school student that days.
For some reasons I found only the second half of the show
ruclips.net/video/NXi0ghf3esU/видео.html
I'm not sure but I think there was the first part of the show somewhere.
I went to the link you provided and I thought it was just great, Tati was shining like a star and she looked like she was having such a great time. It looked like they were playing at a party in someone’s home. I would love to go back in time to be there.
Cool looking forward to checking it out 👍
@@SteveSmith-os5bs imagine my feelings considering the fact that I lived in a nearby city that days. I visited sometimes Tatiana's high school and I even hanged out with Tati's English teacher. So I could easily be the guy in that crowd actualy.
But I wasn't.
I was to snobbish to visit that kind of "students party"-like gigs. That days I hunted big names like Deep Purple, UDO or Dio. And missed the diamond that was right under my nose.
@glebivanov6323 Thanks for your insight, I was born in 1959, way out of her timeline. In the mid-1980s, I was stationed in Northern Germany. I have always been a metal head and listened to the usual metal bands of that era. I remember the band Warlock at Monsters of Rock in Munich. The band was good, but the lead singer was beautiful. She was amazing, and there was an instant connection made just by seeing her. Fast forward to about 6 years ago, and I see my first Jinjer video Pisces and after the disbelief wore off on her vocal abilities wham that connection was made again. So I guess lighting can strike twice.
you should react to Heilung too
What's up with the actual audio/video embedded? My ears are picking up that this is slowed down for some reason and sounds completely off.
Sounded like .75 speed. Maybe just my I Pad?
Same. At first I thought it was me. Was wondering if it was down pitched to maybe fool YT? Idk.
check out some spiritbox if you like jinjer!
PLEASE REACT....pearl jam black mtv unplugged👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Porqe la cancion esta un poco lenta ???
A reagge Nirvana cover? Nope, they did a reagge song called Judgment & punishment, and they did a cover of teritorial pissing, but these are 2 completly different songs!
This video is in a lower octave??? Did you do that in editing? If not you clicked on the wrong video😬
I love anyone reacting to Jinjer but could I respectfully ask if you are going to pause the track could you please rewind by at least 5 seconds as you/we are missing that time when you pause the track. Thank you.
It was played in slow motion unfortunately lol
Sounds like it's slightly slowed down
It was unfortunately, and definitely not intentionally. I only found out when reading the comments ☹️
Reggae Nirvana cover: ruclips.net/video/NXi0ghf3esU/видео.html. I think you will be the first to react to this as it is somewhat obscure going back to before Jinjer when she was still a college student. If you look carefully you will recognize Eugene, and two members of Jinjer who are no longer in the band, in the audience. It is easy to see that Tati was destined for greatness...
Thanks for the link! 👍
Now that’s an old one! There are a couple of pre/early Jinjer vids floating around.
Hey, nice reaction. Not sure about the reggae and Nirvana cover, but "Judgement (& Punishment)" - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Performance ruclips.net/video/Q5rg_63Shqg/видео.html should be interesting for you as a vocal teacher - you can really see Tati's throat and mouth in that one.
Vocal coach altering pitch of the song.... Hmmm....
The mike cupping in the beginning may look cool, but it defeats the passive noise cancelation built into microphones since the 60s. I don't recommend it.
She's talked about why she does it. It gives a different sound when you cup it so you can use it to embellish certain phrases. If you'll notice she also keeps her thumb over the center of the mic. She does that to protect her lips and teeth. She's talked about people throwing things and hitting the mic and it hitting her teeth. Its also smart with all of the jumping around and head banging. It would be easy to bust your lip or chip a tooth.
It works for her.
This is a great discussion here! You’re right that it changes the sound, and generally not in a favorable way. I was taught to never touch or cover the head of the mic, but nowadays everyone’s doing it! And yes, the reasons oldscratch gave are two great reasons to break the rules in my humble opinion. Basically I think you’re both right! 👍👍
Очень сложно смотреть реакцию, когда через каждые 10 секунд обрывается всё на свете. Ни лайк, ни дизлайк. Не интересно постоянно дёргаться.
Love jinjer ❤❤❤
Golden queen of matal ❤🎉
Thanks from Ukraine Kyiv 🇺🇦💗
you interrupt too much