Bernina Record 830 - Motor Checking - Brushes and Capacitors

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @elsav9295
    @elsav9295 4 года назад +6

    What a valuable video for all the Bernina sewing machines owners. Thanks!

  • @isaiah434ruby
    @isaiah434ruby 4 года назад

    The brushes are down to about 1/4 inch of graphite remaining, so I will replace the brushes very soon. I've notices that lately the motor runs as if spinning, but the gears seem spotty about engaging. I'll check the capacitor in the morning. It's a good machine. I appreciate you posting this video.

    • @bradje12
      @bradje12 4 месяца назад

      @isaiah434ruby Hi, Can you remember what brushes you ordered and where from? Thx

  • @oliveenowen2659
    @oliveenowen2659 Год назад +1

    Blessings, thank you much for this helpful video. The capacitors for the vernina 830 i would have to take off the motor and open the back to find it. As i see the motor brush screws are on the outside.

  • @paulamendes5907
    @paulamendes5907 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for a very helpful video. Could you help me with searching for a suitable capacitor please, namely what specifications I have to look for? My machine starts working slowly, then stops, there’s a sound in the motor like it’s wanting to work. I got it with no information about it, motor brushes ok, motor belts are worn out, too loose (ordered new ones online but the replacements seem a poor quality plastic), and the motor housing shows it has overheated at some point to partially melt the housing. It belonged to a very old lady who had passed away… I cleaned and oiled it and mechanically it seems perfect. I’d be so happy to get it working again and I’m thinking it’d always benefit from a new capacitor anyway so your guidance is very appreciated. Thanks 🙏

  • @lyndabuchholz1216
    @lyndabuchholz1216 Год назад +1

    Just found your channel and would like to know if you have a video on how to tighten the belts on the 830 record?. Excellent video!!

  • @starlit484
    @starlit484 2 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for this video! I just purchased my own Bernina 830 out in the wild and it is remarkable shape for its age. I tested it out and it stitches like a dream! I came here to say that because of your video, I decided to check the motor brushes as explained, to find that there was only approx 3 mm left of carbon on the upper brush!! It was just about completely spent! I haven't checked the bottom one but I'm figuring it's the same. My heart dropped thinking that if I hadn't come across your vid, and heeded your suggestions, I could have just kept using the machine until I had burnt out the entire motor!! Wow! Just placed an order for some new brushes and will hold off using the machine until I've replaced them.
    On a similar subject, do the Bernina motors require any oil? I can't remember if you mentioned this in your vid. I know some motors benefit from a drop or two of oil every long while but I know Berninas are different than most in their engineering so I don't want to assume. Thanks and Be well!

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +5

      That's partly why I do these videos, so people can learn how to care for these older machines to hopefully keep them going as long as possible. No oil required for the motor. Thanks.

    • @starlit484
      @starlit484 2 года назад +1

      @@InStitches Okay thanks!

    • @bradje12
      @bradje12 4 месяца назад +1

      ​​@@starlit484Hi, Would you still remember the specific brushes you ordered and where from, for the motor? Thx very much.

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 3 месяца назад +2

      @@bradje12
      Sewing craft stores may have these brushes in stock...

  • @ag2246
    @ag2246 2 года назад +1

    What a great video! On my bernina 707, the wires coming from the machine to motor are both white, and there are only two. Of course, they popped out before I could mark which went to where and now after replacing the capacitor it won’t turn on! 😭 do you have any pointers for finding a service manual for this machine, as I cannot find one anywhere. I don’t want to damage the machine by just trying random ports, so I’ll probably just need to send it to a repair shop. Anyway, thank you for the great videos!

  • @cleansoapmind
    @cleansoapmind 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this incredibly informative video! Also very helpful to hear what a normal motor sounds like. My 801 motor sounds like that on high speed. On very low sewing speed however, it sounds jerky. Is that normal?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  11 месяцев назад +2

      Hi. Yes, I've experienced that as well. I think it is quite common. Not sure if there is a fix or if it's just "normal". All I can think of is to try measuring the resistor the switch connects to to see if it's in spec. Thanks.

  • @thomasackermann
    @thomasackermann 2 года назад +2

    A lot of suppressor-capacitors, made before 1980, were of the type, which absorb the
    moisture of the air and when they have soaked-up enough to reach the point, where they
    start, to conduct electric power, they go BANG! The modern ones, are much better and
    don't absorb moisture to the same degree. As long, as the capacity is the same, to suit the
    motor and sufficient room available, you can change the original ones for better ones from
    electronic suppliers.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +1

      Thanks. The ones in these Bernina models are potted in resin but yes, some other models do have 'exposed to air' capacitors.

  • @harrycaul2494
    @harrycaul2494 2 года назад +2

    Wonderful, clear video. Do you happen to have one about what to do if your Bernina of this era has the motor go 'pop' and give off some smoke by any chance?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +3

      A quick fix for that is to remove the capacitor in the meantime. The machine can be used without it until you can get a replacement sorted. Thanks.

    • @harrycaul2494
      @harrycaul2494 2 года назад +1

      @@InStitches Many thanks. Much appreciated. While I am in there I might change the brushes if they look to have a short life - are they easily found for sale? Are they Bernina specific or is there a generic set? Thank you

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +2

      @@harrycaul2494 The brushes are a specific size and should be available from a sewing machine store. Thanks.

    • @enbyflynn
      @enbyflynn 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@InStitchesCan you let me know the exact info for this type of capacitor? My machine(Record 530-2 did this exact thing yesterday and its my only one so am looking to get it right back in shape as quick as possible, but have no clue what all the different types of capacitors are and what kind I need. I'm getting desperate

  • @lucymcintosh343
    @lucymcintosh343 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much for the informative video. Please advise whether it's correct that the Record has no embroidery discs inside? I bought this machine from a house sale. I own an 830 electronic which has the discs, hence the reason for the question. I would be most grateful for a reply. Thankyou.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hi. The 830 record has the pattern stitches built in. Thanks.

  • @joanb2087
    @joanb2087 2 года назад +1

    I really wish I'd thought to watch your tutorial before I tried to turn on my mom's Bernina minimatic.
    The capacitor blew while I was reading through the manual, I managed to thread the needle before the loud bang and foul smelling smoke. Please tell me that these are available to replace? :)
    Thanks for the video, very thorough, I will be sure to check video tutorials before turning on any old machines in the future

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +2

      Hi. The machine can still be used if the capacitor is removed and not replaced. It would pay to replace it when you can though. The only ones I have available are for the 240v versions. My email address is in the description. Thanks.

  • @wellingtonalves1774
    @wellingtonalves1774 2 месяца назад

    Thank you so much for that excellent video very well done!

  • @donnalamont8993
    @donnalamont8993 2 года назад +1

    thanks for the great video, the capacitor on my Bernina record 830 just blew today. Can you please tell me where I can get a replacement one. I'm in Auckland. Do you do repairs ? thanks

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад

      Hi. Yes I do repairs and I have capacitors. You can find my email address on my web page - www.institches.co.nz - Thanks.

    • @donnalamont8993
      @donnalamont8993 2 года назад +1

      @@InStitches Hi Thanks, I sent you an email , may have gone to your junk/spam folder. That website doesn't work though, says the domain is not connected to a website.

  • @markthomas9516
    @markthomas9516 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Thanks for making this. Would you recommend buying a Bernina 830?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +1

      Hi. Yes, I would totally recommend buying one. They're a good all round machine, reliable and easy to maintain. Thanks.

  • @georgeharizanov6094
    @georgeharizanov6094 Год назад +1

    Thanks very much for the very helpful video! Just brought home a used Bernina 707 which I plugged right away because nobody told me to watch your video first and sure enough there was a pop! Have now removed the capacitor which was cracked and while the machine runs I have a different sort of problem. The machine slows down in a very consistent manner. Let's say I switch it to the slower gear with the sliding button on the back, press the pedal to max and what I see is a consisten slowing down which coincides with a full rotation of the plastic cam stack gear. Wonder if anybody has any clue what could be causing this.. The slowing down is brief and if I try to rotate the machine manually at the spot where it slows down it's very stiff.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  Год назад +2

      Sounds like the cam stack gear is broken. You'll be able to see a crack in it if you have a close look. Thanks.

    • @georgeharizanov6094
      @georgeharizanov6094 Год назад +1

      @@InStitches Thanks very much for your prompt reply! I suspected that since the pattern is tied to one full rotation to that gear, But I am not seeing any crack on it (maybe not quite visible yet). In any event, I will plan to replace it since it will eventually break, it's just matter of time. Thanks again!

    • @georgeharizanov6094
      @georgeharizanov6094 Год назад +1

      So, it was the gear! It is actually cracked!
      It runs smoothly now without it.
      Also, noticed at very, very slow speed there is a grunting sound coming from the motor.
      And it’s not related to any mechanical stiffness in the machine since it does it even when I remove the belt from the motor pulley and apply pressure to the pulley with my fingers.
      It seems this will be a problem for all these since they don’t have electronically controlled speeds and at very low speed you can expect that.

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 3 месяца назад +1

      @@georgeharizanov6094
      @InStitches
      10 months ago
      Hi. From my experience, I see that a lot and it doesn't seem to have any bad affect on the machine in any way. Thanks.

  • @sleepywombat2751
    @sleepywombat2751 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic videos. Really appreciate your practical suggestions and expertise. Can you offer some pointers on where I might get a spare X1Y2 capacitor set. The current original set is working but may be just starting to leak (for Bernina 830 Record) I assume rebuilding with new parts is a better option than buying used units from old machines. No obvious suppliers. Thanks

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад +1

      Thanks. I depends where you are but you could try RS Components, Mauser, Element 14 and the like.

    • @sleepywombat2751
      @sleepywombat2751 3 года назад +1

      @@InStitches Thanks - Yep, we have those in Australia. Looks like I'll need 4 individual capacitors rather than a ready to go set though. Cheers

    • @bradje12
      @bradje12 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@sleepywombat2751Hi, Did you ever track down the capacitors? What was needed to get the 4 capacitors in to the housing? I'm assuming that the Bernina 4in1 capacitor in the video is not available... Is that correct? Thx very much.

  • @teresatorres3036
    @teresatorres3036 3 года назад +1

    I’m looking for the. Genuine Bernina Walking Foot - Old Style Which comes in the hard beige and brown case.

  • @pathwalker1762
    @pathwalker1762 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, very helpful. I loved your expression "found one of these machines in the wild" :) But I did indeed find mine with no history, so I'll be starting with the motor checks, really clearly explained. Thanks

  • @kevinsews
    @kevinsews 4 года назад +2

    I just bought a Record 830. It is making a loud grunting noise at slow speeds that goes through the whole machine. Have you seen this issue before?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад

      Yes I think I know what you mean. Check the capacitors and the motor brushes. I guess if the capacitors have been removed it could be a cause but not sure. The motor could be at fault.

  • @sandrapeak5053
    @sandrapeak5053 Год назад +1

    You note that the capacitor needs to be replaced if it is bad, but I see from another post that the capacitor is obsolete in the Bernina 830 Record and should be removed. What does the capacitor do in the 830 Record?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  Год назад +1

      Hi. I prefer that they are installed. People assume they are obsolete because they helped cut down interference with terrestrial TV transmission, which is no longer in use, and AM radio. Some old schoolers, like me, still listen to AM radio and there's nothing worse than a device spewing out RF interference. It also helps cut down on arcing between the motor brushes and the commutator. Thanks.

  • @capedoryus
    @capedoryus 4 года назад

    Great video. You saved my day on an Elna TSP cam gear. Truly could not of done it without your help. I did change the brushes on the TSP and the motor still growls in initial start up. From 20% on it sounds great. Any thoughts. I'm not sure I'm ready to go into that motor again. Berninas motor set up is great.

  • @lorisruffino347
    @lorisruffino347 3 года назад +2

    Hi, I have a quick question. is it important to clean the commutator before inserting a new carbon brush? Also thank you for the very informative video!

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад +1

      Thanks. It's not always necessary to clean up the commutator but I would do so if it's looking like it needs it.

  • @fitbmx7744
    @fitbmx7744 2 года назад +1

    Thanks! Quick question though, I have a 830 now that is a bit rough at low RPM. The I cleaned the motor and such, and the brushes look great. Could a bad motor capacitor cause it to be rough at low speed? It runs great at medium and high speed.
    I get in quite a few of the 700 and 800 series Berninas in, and they generally work great. Tough old warhorses, love them.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +2

      You could try removing the capacitor to test but I doubt it will be the cause of the problem. Thanks.

    • @fitbmx7744
      @fitbmx7744 2 года назад +1

      @@InStitches Thanks, I will try that. It is a shame, because it is a nice smooth machine otherwise.

  • @tanana2070
    @tanana2070 Год назад +1

    Ok, Thankyou for this. I have the 830 model, purchased in 1975. When I am sewing, it just stops. Or, if I stop sewing and leave the machine for a minute, it won't start again. Could this be the brushes?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  Год назад +1

      Hi. It could be. Check brushes first. If they are okay then there's another cause of the issue. Thanks.

    • @tanana2070
      @tanana2070 Год назад

      @@InStitches Thankyou!!

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tanana2070
      Did you find out what the problem was...and could you fix it?

  • @warpingaily
    @warpingaily 4 года назад +3

    Thank you that was very informative and helpful. Will try to work up my courage to do this!

  • @sewingmachinetech948
    @sewingmachinetech948 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for that very helpful video!

  • @alexahmatov7400
    @alexahmatov7400 2 года назад +1

    On the Bernina 830 record electronic machine, the roller of the thread winding mechanism on the bobbin does not contact the motor pulley. I can't figure out what the reason is and fix this problem. Please help with the advice!

  • @pollyrempel6382
    @pollyrempel6382 3 года назад +1

    I have both a Bernina 830 Record and a 930 Record. I was told that on some of the vintage Vikings, when the capacitors blow, you don't need to replace them. Is it the same with the Bernina machines?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад +1

      The capacitors are not needed just to run the machine. They filter electrical noise on the line.

  • @patanddavemasopust2972
    @patanddavemasopust2972 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the wonderful tutorial. My Bernina has a motor brush cover that is missing. The brush spring is taped to hold it. Would you be able to direct me to where I might find a motor brush cover? Thank you Pat

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад +1

      It depends where you are? If you're in New Zealand, I could send you one.

    • @patanddavemasopust2972
      @patanddavemasopust2972 3 года назад +1

      @@InStitches sending one would be lovely but I am in the us. Are they generic covers for specialized from Bernina? TY

    • @patanddavemasopust2972
      @patanddavemasopust2972 3 года назад +1

      Or are the covers specialized?

  • @davidbaker4867
    @davidbaker4867 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video - thanks. Where do you recommend buying the brushes for an 830? (I live in NZ - based in Wellington.) Thanks.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  2 года назад +1

      Hi. I have the brushes in stock. My email address is in the video description. Thanks.

  • @midnightrider1178
    @midnightrider1178 3 года назад +1

    awesome video man i scored one with all attachments and manual for $25 :)

  • @Jj-zy4xe
    @Jj-zy4xe Год назад +1

    I have a question, on the motor housing/cover, 19:26, where you plug the footpedal cable in, there are these yellow pins, i have no idea what they are called, i seem to have broken one, can you replace these? With something similar?

  • @ramanabulusu4175
    @ramanabulusu4175 3 года назад +1

    Dear Sir, I need your help to unfreeze the clutch knob on my Bernina 807 . It is so badly struck that even after using TriFlow , Blue creeper oil , CRC 5-56 & Isopropyl Alcohol it is not moving even an iota ! Could you please kindly give me few tips or what are the other options ( except taking it to the Bernina technician because they are prohibitively expensive here in U.K.! ) . Thanks.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад +1

      Maybe try warming the machine up in front of a heater, not too close though. Just try to get it warm and try loosening the clutch knob while stopping the machine from turning.

  • @jaycalgary7
    @jaycalgary7 Год назад +1

    Hi I have a 831 and it has a motor speed switch on the front of the machine itself min/max. Everything sounds great when it is on max but when I switch it over to min the machine sounds like it is running rough. Any idea what the cause may be?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  Год назад +2

      Hi. From my experience, I see that a lot and it doesn't seem to have any bad affect on the machine in any way. Thanks.

  • @pascalmonier7282
    @pascalmonier7282 3 года назад

    Hello thank you for this very complete tutorial.
    Can you provide us with the reference of the coals?
    Thank you in advance: Pascal

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад

      The carbon brushes should be available from your sewing machine dealer.

  • @cindyugarte4904
    @cindyugarte4904 3 года назад +1

    do you by chance have a video on replacing the cam gear on an 830 record?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад

      Not as yet but I plan on doing one.

  • @swissmiss5468
    @swissmiss5468 3 года назад +1

    Does anyone know where I can buy a new capacitor for my Bernina 830?

  • @pipee3r
    @pipee3r 2 месяца назад

    Hi I know this video is old but I have the same bernina sewing machine and I just opened the motor is it possible for the capacitor black wire and the blue wire of the speed to be disconnected from the terminals, ive been using the machine and its gone for servicing a few times it was my first time opening it myself and I saw that it's disconnected is this normal (I'm also not from New Zealand)

  • @oneroomproductions7788
    @oneroomproductions7788 4 года назад

    Great video, exactly what i was looking for! I have recently found a Bernina 807. However the capacitor blew when it was plugged in. Your explanation was very informative. I was wondering if you could explain/show where to purchase a new one? Is it a case of just searching online for a capacitor with matching numbers? Any help would be appreciated.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  4 года назад +2

      It's a bunch of four capacitors and they are all readily available. You will see the values printed on the side of your capacitor set. Note there are 2 x X2 class and 2 x Y class.

    • @npaisnel
      @npaisnel 3 года назад

      @@InStitches Can you explain X Class and Y Class capacitors please. I am looking on RS Export web site to order some for my mums 809 that went bang last week.
      Seems to still run, it blew the bulb too. Can’t read values on the capacitor block.
      Wiring colour scheme is same here in U.K. as yours in NZ.
      A little vid with capacitor values and types would be great... Non- electrolytic I am guessing ? But as I say,,, can’t see X or Y class reference
      Thanks

    • @npaisnel
      @npaisnel 3 года назад +1

      Apologies...ignore my lazy moment about X and Y class capacitors..I just googled it..me being a lazy @@£$. Think I have got a good enough view of your video to see the capacitor values 0.02 microF and 200puff.
      Will have to strip the old one to see the wiring.
      Thanks for this
      .

  • @Stealth12354
    @Stealth12354 Год назад +1

    I have an 830 which responds intermittently to the pedal. The machine makes all the right noise still i the motor, but nothing spins in the internal workings. If I hand wind it once, it seems to give it the will to start responding again and it'll work fine.... until a moment later when it wont start again. Any ideas on what's causing that ?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  Год назад +1

      The first thing to check would be the motor brushes. Thanks.

  • @ashleybullmore
    @ashleybullmore 2 месяца назад

    Where do I go to find parts, I need to order belts

  • @isaiah434ruby
    @isaiah434ruby 4 года назад

    Thank you for this very informative video

  • @hisharamaduwanthi259
    @hisharamaduwanthi259 2 года назад +1

    My machine not working..plz help me

  • @shazimakhan5237
    @shazimakhan5237 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hi i have the same machin power work light on but when press the padle doesn't run and do sparkling on the motor what can i do please how to fix it please 8

    • @beakittelscherz5419
      @beakittelscherz5419 11 дней назад

      He just explained that in that video! Check the motor and the pedal for damage on kapaciters and wiring! If you can't, let someone do it who knows how😉

  • @ibtissemel-haffaf7341
    @ibtissemel-haffaf7341 3 года назад

    Bonjour sèlveuplait tu peux expliqué comment régler les dents de machine

  • @shazimakhan5237
    @shazimakhan5237 9 месяцев назад +1

    Are you in Australia that can fix my one please 😊

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  9 месяцев назад +1

      Hi. I'm in New Zealand sorry.

    • @shazimakhan5237
      @shazimakhan5237 9 месяцев назад +1

      @InStitches i have the same machine when pluged it in the power work but when press the padel so the motor do sparkling and not running can you give me the solution please

    • @bradje12
      @bradje12 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@shazimakhan5237Check the brushes

  • @norikotakahashi5172
    @norikotakahashi5172 3 года назад +1

    How many motor brushes does the 830 record have?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  3 года назад +1

      Two motor brushes. Thanks.

  • @gulgungun
    @gulgungun 4 года назад

    Hi, thank you very much, I was able to open motor case and saw my capacitor has a crack so I will remove it. Would you please tell about the wire; white, thick one, transverse lying between the terminals just in front of the motor. Mine is burned out as my capacitor. Can I remove it too? My machine does not have speed switch.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  4 года назад +1

      If it's what I think it is, you'll find a resistor under the white sheath, in which case it's more than likely a discharge resistor and can be removed.

    • @gulgungun
      @gulgungun 4 года назад

      @@InStitches I found the tiny resistance. :) thank you so much. Finally I was able to plug in, holding my breath, it works.. I could not manage it without your excellent video. Thank you.

  • @missb1779
    @missb1779 4 года назад

    Hi, I just bought a 830 record 2ndhand. I notice when I press the pedal slightly harder at fast speed, there are flashes of light emitting from the motor. Is that something I should be concerned about? I think I might have to return the machine if the motor has some issues.

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  4 года назад

      Hi, that can be quite normal although I would be checking the brushes as a matter of course. The sparking could possibly be worse than normal if the capacitors have been removed.

    • @missb1779
      @missb1779 4 года назад

      Thank u so much for your prompt reply. I'm not handy or technical in any way, so I have to bring back to the seller to check. If you are in the country where i am located, I will definitely send to you for servicing!

  • @ismaelabufon1696
    @ismaelabufon1696 4 года назад

    Got an 830 Record that needs a new capacitor, any idea where I could find a replacement? (Even better if it is in Australia)

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  4 года назад

      If you asked me 10 years ago I would say Dick Smith. Maybe Jaycar? There are four capacitors and they need to be the correct type and assembled correctly.

  • @Catrita100
    @Catrita100 4 года назад

    I just received a Bernina 830 that I bought on eBay. I oiled it per instructions. It runs but never reaches the speed it should. I checked the brushes and capacitors and they seem fine. What else should I be checking?

    • @InStitches
      @InStitches  4 года назад

      Maybe the mechanical parts of the sewing machine (not the motor) need oiling? The machine may be tight in which case the motor is straining to drive it? Either that or the motor is weak?

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 3 месяца назад

      Did you switch the max switch at the bottom of the front of the machine? (below the stitch change knobs)

  • @lindavw3971
    @lindavw3971 4 года назад

    14:40 brush and spring pulled out of housing

  • @marie-jeanneweaber1714
    @marie-jeanneweaber1714 2 года назад +1

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