@@OWill40 Of course, my man, my number one goal is to ensure the proper education of my clientele. I wanna make sure you understand what you’re truly paying for.
@@AdamFrugoli That is a great question. The cost and time is factored by the film being used. PPF is more difficult than Vinyl. With in each type there are levels of difficulty depending on finish and what the material is made of. PPF * gloss, satin. Do not recommend wrapping edges if clear. Explained below. * colored - gloss (hardest) 1.5 to 2 days - satin 1 to 1.5 days Vinyl gloss or matte * cast * calendared * hybrid All roughly 1 - 1.5 days With all installed there is a tear down. Removal of the following. - side mirrors - door gaskets - fender flairs - charge port - third break light (the long one on the tailgate) this takes the longest. Everything else comes off pretty easy and fast. Now lets talk cost. The truck in this video was wrapped in satin PPF and satin black PPF. Cut edges, service cost $4800. * film cost - $1300 * labor - $3000 * decon - $150 * window film - $250 (two front doors and front accents) Had he decided to do the wrapped edges, labor would have been at $4500. So only adding an additional $1500 for the added time and skill. However, I personally would have recommended not wrapping the edges with this film. Simply because there is not need to pay for something that makes not esthetic difference. It is clear, yes it adds a satin finish, however, that would not be perceptible on the edges. It would have waisted his money. This client is a Braves Player, but still no need to waist his money. The only time I recommend wrapping the edges is with colored film, vinyl or PPF. The other major factor with this service is film cost. PPF Film cost $1300 to $3500 Vinyl Film cost $750 to $5000, chrome film is not cheap) lately, shop overhead must be considered. If you are going to a single man shop that is just a self employed person in a 1000 sqft shop vs a place with sever employees with a large shop, cost will change. location of shop, employee training, employee pay, etc. I pay my team 30% of labor cost and send them to the best trainers in the industry. We also do continuous training each year to keep our skill evolving. I feel we are still underpriced at the moment, however, I am considering the economy with my pricing. Hope this clears it up. Please ask more follow ups if you need to.
Do the cut edges start to show with dirt collection? Will the wrapped edges lift over time? Which brand of PPF do you prefer? Thoughts on Steak vs Ultrafit vs Pure PPF? Thanks!
Any time you have a cut edge on PPF you will have exposed adhesive. If you have exposed adhesive, you will eventually collect dirt there. If the team that does the wrapped edges understands proper wrap theory and does not put too much tension on the edge, then no, the wrapped edges will not lift. Side note concerning edges: I recommend always asking a shop if they use adhesive promotor on the edges when installing your PPF or Vinyl as a primary means of applying their film. If they are, I recommend not using these shops. In my opinion, these shops do not truly understand stretch theory and use this glue to cheat the installation. When using this product, the film can be over-stretched and installed incorrectly but it will still stay in place. This more times than not will cause paint-lifting issues when the film is removed. I am happy to talk at length about the glue topic. We use two PPF brands here. #1 is Opticle Defence. - This is a newer brand that has gained my respect and loyalty. It was brought to market by Jasson Otterness and E-Man. They are the former owner and employee of Chicago Auto Pros. #2 is STEK. - This was my primary film before Opticle. I still keep my account with them for any one that is uneasy about using a new, lesser-known brand like Opticle. However, I have yet to have a client not use Opticle after discussing the brands together. Concerning the other brands you mentioned. I have never used them. So, I can not speak intelligently about them.
@@booger65man No problem, man, my biggest thing is educating people properly on the way these things should be done. I wish you were local also, that GT40 is beautiful.
@@LaJuanHughes If you like cheap film, then that’s what you should use. My issue is a lot of the shops in my industry right now aren’t telling clients that they’re going to use a dirt cheap film that will probably only last six months. Which would be perfect for you since you want to change it every six months anyways. When people hear my prices because I use top-of-the-line film, they think I’m overpriced. So this is simply my effort to educate people properly so they understand if they’re comparing apples to apples or rotten apples to pristine perfect apples
@ThePursuit83 it not over priced for the work and time it takes . Just with people on the selling stuff I searched where it came from. And I decided cut out the middle man and do it myself. And it another option for people on a budget. And if they don't like it they can walk .
@ All facts, I am always willing to work with people on a budget. I will use the lower quality film like 3M and cut the edges is thay is what they want. Unfortunately, those same people typically ask for the higher quality film for a discount. Cant do it, the vinyl we use runs between $700 and $1500 a roll. Zero orange peel and looks like paint when applied.
@@CybertruckTeach That’s the beautiful thing about what we do, you don’t have to wrap it if you don’t want to. However, like the client in this video. He likes the metal aesthetic however he did want it to have the satin look so we put a satin PPF. The other main reason he did it is because he was tired of all of the fingerprints that transferred every time someone touched it. The PPF prevents that. It also makes it extremely easy to keep clean. Do you like the shiny metal look. I would recommend getting a gloss PPF wrap done. This will not only enhance the in your face metal aesthetic, but it will also prevent the fingerprints and help keep it clean. If you want to discuss this option more, let me know.
Thank you for showing the difference between wrapped vs cut edge.
@@OWill40
Of course, my man, my number one goal is to ensure the proper education of my clientele. I wanna make sure you understand what you’re truly paying for.
A sincere question... I hope this isn't wrong, but is it a 5K difference to push the edges? How much more time does it take?
@@AdamFrugoli
That is a great question.
The cost and time is factored by the film being used. PPF is more difficult than Vinyl.
With in each type there are levels of difficulty depending on finish and what the material is made of.
PPF
* gloss, satin. Do not recommend wrapping edges if clear. Explained below.
* colored
- gloss (hardest) 1.5 to 2 days
- satin 1 to 1.5 days
Vinyl gloss or matte
* cast
* calendared
* hybrid
All roughly 1 - 1.5 days
With all installed there is a tear down. Removal of the following.
- side mirrors
- door gaskets
- fender flairs
- charge port
- third break light (the long one on the tailgate) this takes the longest. Everything else comes off pretty easy and fast.
Now lets talk cost.
The truck in this video was wrapped in satin PPF and satin black PPF. Cut edges, service cost $4800.
* film cost - $1300
* labor - $3000
* decon - $150
* window film - $250 (two front doors and front accents)
Had he decided to do the wrapped edges, labor would have been at $4500. So only adding an additional $1500 for the added time and skill.
However, I personally would have recommended not wrapping the edges with this film. Simply because there is not need to pay for something that makes not esthetic difference. It is clear, yes it adds a satin finish, however, that would not be perceptible on the edges. It would have waisted his money. This client is a Braves Player, but still no need to waist his money.
The only time I recommend wrapping the edges is with colored film, vinyl or PPF.
The other major factor with this service is film cost.
PPF
Film cost $1300 to $3500
Vinyl
Film cost $750 to $5000, chrome film is not cheap)
lately, shop overhead must be considered. If you are going to a single man shop that is just a self employed person in a 1000 sqft shop vs a place with sever employees with a large shop, cost will change.
location of shop, employee training, employee pay, etc.
I pay my team 30% of labor cost and send them to the best trainers in the industry. We also do continuous training each year to keep our skill evolving.
I feel we are still underpriced at the moment, however, I am considering the economy with my pricing.
Hope this clears it up. Please ask more follow ups if you need to.
Do the cut edges start to show with dirt collection? Will the wrapped edges lift over time? Which brand of PPF do you prefer? Thoughts on Steak vs Ultrafit vs Pure PPF? Thanks!
Any time you have a cut edge on PPF you will have exposed adhesive. If you have exposed adhesive, you will eventually collect dirt there.
If the team that does the wrapped edges understands proper wrap theory and does not put too much tension on the edge, then no, the wrapped edges will not lift.
Side note concerning edges: I recommend always asking a shop if they use adhesive promotor on the edges when installing your PPF or Vinyl as a primary means of applying their film. If they are, I recommend not using these shops. In my opinion, these shops do not truly understand stretch theory and use this glue to cheat the installation. When using this product, the film can be over-stretched and installed incorrectly but it will still stay in place. This more times than not will cause paint-lifting issues when the film is removed.
I am happy to talk at length about the glue topic.
We use two PPF brands here.
#1 is Opticle Defence.
- This is a newer brand that has gained my respect and loyalty. It was brought to market by Jasson Otterness and E-Man. They are the former owner and employee of Chicago Auto Pros.
#2 is STEK.
- This was my primary film before Opticle. I still keep my account with them for any one that is uneasy about using a new, lesser-known brand like Opticle.
However, I have yet to have a client not use Opticle after discussing the brands together.
Concerning the other brands you mentioned. I have never used them. So, I can not speak intelligently about them.
Thank you for the detailed reply. I wish you were local to my area.
@@booger65man
No problem, man, my biggest thing is educating people properly on the way these things should be done.
I wish you were local also, that GT40 is beautiful.
Why you talking about my 275 roll if wrap. But fir real i can wrap it evey 6 month for what i paid . And if they dont like it they can walk
@@LaJuanHughes
If you like cheap film, then that’s what you should use.
My issue is a lot of the shops in my industry right now aren’t telling clients that they’re going to use a dirt cheap film that will probably only last six months. Which would be perfect for you since you want to change it every six months anyways.
When people hear my prices because I use top-of-the-line film, they think I’m overpriced.
So this is simply my effort to educate people properly so they understand if they’re comparing apples to apples or rotten apples to pristine perfect apples
@ThePursuit83 it not over priced for the work and time it takes . Just with people on the selling stuff I searched where it came from. And I decided cut out the middle man and do it myself. And it another option for people on a budget. And if they don't like it they can walk .
@
All facts, I am always willing to work with people on a budget. I will use the lower quality film like 3M and cut the edges is thay is what they want. Unfortunately, those same people typically ask for the higher quality film for a discount. Cant do it, the vinyl we use runs between $700 and $1500 a roll. Zero orange peel and looks like paint when applied.
I bought my Cybertruck because it’s a Bitchin metal showcase of in your face metal why would I want to wrap it?
@@CybertruckTeach
That’s the beautiful thing about what we do, you don’t have to wrap it if you don’t want to.
However, like the client in this video. He likes the metal aesthetic however he did want it to have the satin look so we put a satin PPF. The other main reason he did it is because he was tired of all of the fingerprints that transferred every time someone touched it. The PPF prevents that. It also makes it extremely easy to keep clean.
Do you like the shiny metal look. I would recommend getting a gloss PPF wrap done. This will not only enhance the in your face metal aesthetic, but it will also prevent the fingerprints and help keep it clean.
If you want to discuss this option more, let me know.