I just read an article about a high school senior who will also graduate as a RN prior to her hs graduation. In her case she could also likely achieve PA or NP by 21/22. Thats impressive indeed!!
One of my friends was a practicing PA at the age of 21, she got in to a direct 4 year PA program after HS and graduated in May and started working 2 months later
I go to Hofstra university right now and they have a program for high school seniors where it’s a pre-Pa track. it’s 5 years all together that’s includes undergrad and masters degree. I wish I had know about this program in high school, I would’ve done it that way instead.
I'm looking at becoming a PA but I feel like I've had some questions that you can't look up on google and you guys helped answer those for me. Thank you! I hope you guys continue to make videos like these.
Why is America downgrading the health care to NP and PA instead of qualified doctors? In future, lets allow 5 year experienced MA to work like NP, they know equally. NP who has 17 month of training is not F*ing touching me. WannabeDoctor pretenders!!!@@mughira1012
Why are people conflating MD and PA you ask? There is really no comparison in education and training, so what is it? Why? Follow the $$$. A PA (or NP) is far cheaper for our increasingly corporatized healthcare system to employ. Patients are being sold out by politicians and healthcare executives that are looking to cut corners.
@@OregonDux Doctors in the United States are way overpaid. Why not make medical school free with more spots and cut their salaries significantly? That would solve all the issues and eliminate the need for PAs and NPs. Where I am from, a patient may have to wait months to see an MD or they can see a PA in a week...
@@billr5842 Doctors, dedicate 11+ years of their lives to education and training, making them the HIGHEST trained professionals in the healthcare system. Where is their compensation relative to others? Barely in the middle of the pack. Hospital executives, hopsital admin, and insurance executives have less education and training, yet make FAR FAR more than physicians. The CEO of unitedhealthcare makes, in 1 day, the amount a surgeon makes in a year. Over 1/3 of our healthcare spending is on bureaucracy and administration--less than 10% is spent on physician salaries. I agree that we need to invest more in educating and training physicians, rather than cutting corners by replacing physicians with midlevels that have 1/10 the hours in training. However, i strongly disagree that "paying physicians less" would solve our healthcare spending issues. If you look at WHERE we are spending exorbitant amounts of money, it's not physician salaries. In fact, of developed countries, we spend among the least amounts of total healthcare spending on physician salaries. www.reuters.com/article/us-health-costs-administration/more-than-a-third-of-u-s-healthcare-costs-go-to-bureaucracy-idUSKBN1Z5261 www.beckershospitalreview.com/compensation-issues/physician-pay-accounts-for-86-of-total-healthcare-expenses.htmlz www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/sunday-review/doctors-salaries-are-not-the-big-cost.html
@@OregonDux Welcome to capitalism my friend. Good luck trying to solve the issue of overpaid CEOs and admin. Also, NPs and PAs are not going anywhere unless they are found to be truly dangerous and incompetent. I do see where you're coming from with Doctor salaries but they still make more than any other doctor in other countries.
@@billr5842 There are some great solutions that would reduce our healthcare spending. Targeting a minor healthcare expenditure by outsourcing care to less qualified individuals isn't one of them. "NPs and PAs are not going anywhere unless they are found to be truly dangerous and incompetent"--as physician extenders with appropriate oversight, they shouldn't go anywhere--they're great. Practicing medicine independently? The evidence supporting similar outcomes is scarce and poor quality. Time will tell. Common sense also helps. The minimum required training hours of a Nurse Practitioner is ~5% of the required hours of a family physician throughout their training. The standards aren't the same. It's like trying to cut airline costs by putting flight attendants through an online pilot program for 1 month then having them fly independently. Go ahead and get on that plane if you wish--as long as you're making an informed decision. Conflating NP/PA's with MD/DO's is not allowing patients to make an informed decision. Cutting corners in the actual delivery of care is not the solution to reigning in healthcare spending. Cut the bloat! "In 2018, the U.S. spent 16.9 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) on health care, nearly twice as much as the average OECD country" "The U.S. Has Among the Highest Rates of Hospitalizations from Preventable Causes Like Diabetes and Hypertension" "Americans Visit the Doctor Less Frequently and Have Fewer Physicians" source: www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/jan/us-health-care-global-perspective-2019 Invest in more physicians!
Thanks for this video. I didn't know there was so much flexibility for PAs. I've never really wanted to be a doctor, but the PA route sounds interesting.
I heard that PA does not sign, not reliable, the doctor signs takes the responsability. So I wonder if the patient stays in a vulnerable situation if the PA makes a mistake.
It is easier to be married with another medical professional as a medical professional. A lot of the time people from another careers don't understand the schedule.
I’m an Accountant and I understand my husband’s schedule just fine. He also loves explaining medical situations to me. I’m always so impressed by his knowledge. I’ve learned so much, I feel like I can diagnose people myself sometimes...lol However, I know that the medical field is much more complicated than the little I know.
The same goes with any career Like cops and doctors etc The schedules are similar when it comes to timing and shit. As well as what the jobs entail Helping people out
@@rosebing4707 I meant understanding the medical / health field as a nurse you know what happens in a hospital. So you can understand better his schedule.
Don't take my comment personally, I am aware that there are plenty of relationships with health workers and people from other careers that are healthy and work well. What I meant was that if you are a health worker married to a health worker it is easier to understand the weird schedules and the emergencies. Getting bad cases and so on. I am truly sorry if sounded wrong somehow, or if I offended anyone with my comment. It was not my intention.
All these men in the comments talking about “she’s scary” No. 🙄 Seems like you weak males are just intimated by a strong, assertive woman. Ignore the losers, love you two as a couple!! 💪💕
I thought she was awesome. But i'm gonna let you in on a little secret. No man is "intimidated" by a strong assertive woman. That is something you girls tell yourselves hahaha. They just prefer easy dummies.
I can’t imagine having “full autonomy” as a provider at 21 years old... I decided to go to med school instead of becoming an NP so I could have the extra schooling.
My husband and I are both in the legal field. He's and attorney and I am a paralegal assistant finishing school to become a paralegal. Its great to be able conversations and both understand the lingo and actual laws. We at times will debate the outcome of certain high profile cases. And our family is always calling for legal advice. But I am planning to go to PA school.
@@Hannah-ef6sg I'll speak for myself. Right now I am in a "law clerk" program, right after I finish this 2 year program I can transfer to "paralegal" program. It's doable! Go for it if you are fascinated with legal field
On the day that I went to orientation at my school, one med student and one resident intern committed suicide and the whole school was in panic because it was the same day and to be quite honest, all of the new incoming students and parents were frightened and the school had to really "bullshit" their way out of it.
PAs can do everything a physician can, with complete/full autonomy? This misinformation has led to 1 less viewer. Trying to pass a mid-level off as a physician equivalent, is definitely a misrepresentation. I hope others follow my lead and stop watching your videos.
One nurse that is working on my floor is getting her NP online in 2.5 years while she is working full time. That should tell you how much of a joke NP is compared to a PA.
I have been a RN for just shy of 20 years and am in nursing management I have supervised PAs and NP’s. There is very little difference in skill level... different approaches yes but overall the experience, age, and personality matter more. You will have a great career no matter which path you choose. I am glad I chose nursing on a personal level as I have a job with a lot of physician contact and conflict and get to dish it out (to be blunt) and would be very difficult if not impossible as a PA. For the eye rollers I am the UM/UR director for over 600 inpatient beds.
Aiden W they still are getting hands on clinical experience though. And they may still have clinical rotations their last year in NP school just like PA’s. How is that a bad thing?
@@DrCellini I'm sure it has happened without me being aware, but if I can help it I'll avoid that situation as much as I can. Already had a family member suffer from NP trying to play doctor, don't need another APP who think's they "know everything" doing the same thing.
I get where you're coming from but some of the worst providers I have encountered were MDs too. I have encountered some bad PAs and NPs too. When I choose a provider, I just find whoever is highly rated and competent. If I was randomly choosing a provider, I would want an MD. If I was in the ICU or inpatient with a serious medical issue, I'd want an MD. With that being said, for outpatient services, I have encountered some very competent PAs and NPs.
@@DrCellini Is the fact that this is commonplace in US healthcare supposed to be reassuring? Have you seen our health outcomes? We don't invest in enough primary care PHYSICIANS. we trail other high income countries in this and many other important metrics.
You guys are adorable !.. I was considering being a PA but I’m too hands on ... I want to be a surgeon 🙏🏾 hopefully that’s in the cards for me because I don’t see myself doing anything else 😭
haha... Yeah don't listen to that guy, if you are serious about surgery and wanna be at the top of your craft, for the sake of your future patients as well go to medical school
What does that have to do with anything? I'm an IMG btw and I think this whole PA/NP BS is just a bunch of PC garbage. I went through 6 years of ked school and hopefully next year 3 years of residency, how can you equate me with a PA/NP?
You guys do not know how helpful this is! I am a senior in High-school and was trying to decide if I wanted to go the PA or MD route, as I have always wanted to be a pediatrician, and have just learned about how capable PA's are! Thanks so much for this!
What did you decide?? I’m a freshman in college right now and I’m in the exact same boat. I’ve always wanted to be a pediatrician as well, but I’ve been looking a lot into PA now!
how it is possible that a PA can practice and do WHATEVER a MD does, but they only study only half of that. Your other half can testify how HARD it is to get into a medical school and complete that program. is it really that hard to get into PA program? There are many super smart doctors, have you ever heard they finished their medical training in 2 years? WITH all respect for you and your profession, your statement is and insult and significantly undermining medical doctors when you say, " I can do everything, diagnose and manage and treat, just like a doctor". It is exactly what the corporations in the US have created to sabotage the medical professions by devaluating what they do and lower them to a "health care provider" vs. a "doctor". that is why a PA only exists in the US. I wouldn't be surprised if a RN claims they are just like PA and they do exactly the same thing. Having said that, you both seem to be a nice couple, both beautiful and Smart. nice videos, too.
it’s actually harder to get accepted into a PA program vs medical school. and wether or not you find that statement to be offensive it’s the truth. RN and PA have completely different tasks whereas MD and PA are much more similar.
your very truthful comment has angered all the PAs lol. The fact is the vast majority of them tried to get into medical school and failed as the educational requirements were too high, so now to placate themselves they pretend to be doctors, but unfortunately for them as they didn't go to medical school or do rigorous residency training or board exams their knowledge is greatly deficient compared to that of a physician, and they themselves are not aware of the vast difference in knowledge as when you've never been exposed to it, you simply don't know what you don't know.
I am premed and had my first baby 4 months ago. After being with him, realizing that med school, residency, and fellowship for ortho surgery (my passion) is going to take me away from my family for so many years at a time. I am 100% going into medicine as a provider, but I’m heavily leaning towards PA so I can have much better hours and actually start practicing pretty soon. Thank you for uploading this video!
Im doing PA because although i love med, im also really looking forward to being a mom when i do have children. And i want that flexibility in the future. Its a great option!!
I’m sorry, but this video was a waste of time. You have not addressed the difference at all. It was basically a Q&A on your cute little family of doctor and physician assistant.
ayyyy y'all answered my question! Lol, awesome video, my girlfriend is in PA school right now and i'm in medical school pursuing IR in my 3rd year. Weird, I know. Love your videos!
I would think that your hours could be different in the medical professions and that could be a problem with seeing each other? This is not a 8-5 job right?
It’s abhorrent to think of the number of PA’s and NP’s who see their career as a fast track into doing what a doctor does. You don’t have half the training a physician would. To the PA: stop scope creeping, practice within your training, or you are putting patients at risk with your complete lack of willingness to admit your lack of knowledge and more limited scope. To the doc: grow a spine, you know she’s exploiting the allowances of her career, and we all know why you’re nodding your head along to this.
J. W. Anyone can become a doctor with hard work and dedication. Beta males can make it through med school and residency as so can alpha males. She’s alpha, he’s beta. They balance eachother off.
My 2 cents- General Surgeon here- if I send a patient to be evaluated by a specialist, I expect a specialist. Not a person who did 4 years undergrad and 2.5 of “med school” with what can only be described as “circumstantial experience”, evaluating said patient. If I find out this happened, I will never send another patient to you. I’m looking at you dermatology.
@@Randy-us1uf that's definitely not a good mindset whatsoever. If you want to specialize in one thing, go to med school. If you prefer the lateral mobility, go to PA school.
I'm currently a Pharmacy Technician. I do not want to become a pharmacist but still want to be in medicine. This is playing a big part on me deciding what I want to do. Thank you, it was very helpful and informative!
Woah. I didn’t know PA’s existed. I thought the only way to get a job where your medically helping people was to go to med school and become a doctor. It’s actually really cool to know there is a financial option I can afford to do instead. Coool.
There are also ways you can become a PA after than the typical route. I'm going to a 5 year accelerated program to be a PA. Here's a website of schools that offer that program if you're interested :) www.thepalife.com/direct-entry-and-dual-degree-bsms-physician-assistant-programs/
I also went to college thinking I would be a pediatrician. My first semester a friend told me about PA. I researched it and ever since that has been my goal. I am currently in my second year of PA school. I graduate August 2020. It’s definitely rough. They fit so much info into a short amount of time. But it’s great to not have to go to school as long and have lateral mobility unlike MDs.
@@MHSMagicLuver Did you go to a 4 year college and how did your route go to get in? was it hard. Im very worried about my gpa and all sorts. How many schools did u apply to
It’s really sad to see how some of these people in the comments are bashing her just because of her profession. As a premed student I learned pretty quickly that while not all healthcare professionals are the the same they have the same end goal and that is to give quality care based on their training and capabilities. Not to mention I don’t think they want to get hit with a malpractice issue. I highly doubt that an NP, PA, CRNA, or any other healthcare provider is trying to steal a physician’s job. If these prestigious and highly qualified physicians can trust them why can’t you?
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦! Your channel is the first realistic and down to earth medical channel I have encountered so far. No exaggerating and fake talks here! I love it! I'm a premed student right now and I was wondering if you can make a video about your premed journey!!! Thanks a lot! 😊
You two are super cute! Just found your channel and my daughter has been trying to decide which route to take. Sharing your video with her now. Best of luck to you both! God bless. 💕
@Ay-yoo lol no, it's probably because you don't have a medical background, so you don't understand the vast difference in medical knowledge between a resident and a PA
Why did your wife move from Derm to urgent care? I am about to enter freshman year of college and I am also interested in PA. Derm is something I’m interested in as well! Also, what did she minor and major in?
Stella Janas As a PA you can change specialties as long as you have a spot available . I have been a PA for 23 years And I have done about 5 different specialties by choice and I love it !
Ihionkhan ehijie You can major in anything as long as you get the PA school pre reqs. You could be a theater major as long as you have the pre-reqs. Those pre reqs depend on the school you’re applying too
Had no clue you could be an independent provider/PA by 21. I guess being responsible for life and death matters, prescription for controlled substances and counselling patients is a skill you learn before most people develop any maturity? Who knew...
radiology makes 350k ish. after taxes, it's like 210k live like a resident (50-70K) pay it off in 2-3 years max. or live off her salary alone and pay it off faster. its pretty easy to pay off med school debt in any specialty just do the math. Most of the time you can pay it back in 5 years or so.
KingOfAllLamas PA’s and Nurse Practitioners are two different things in the U. S., with different capabilities & duties for each, despite being similar.
Hi, I'm Italian. We do not have PAs. So I wonder, how can someone that has attended a 3 year school make diagnosis where you need to do 4+5 years med school and residency to be a doctor? I'm not getting the concept of the PA job...
Firstly to become a Physician Assistant (PA), you must obtain a bachelors degree from an undergraduate education. This is non-specific but largely people tend to choose degrees in the sciences as the prerequisites for PA school are heavily science based (Bio 1,2 Chem 1, 2 Organic 1, Biochemistry 1, Genetics, Microbiology, Anatomy and Physiology 1, 2). Next all PA schools require direct patient care hours to apply. The AVERAGE ACCEPTED APPLICANT has ~2000 hrs. Examples of obtaining direct patient care hours is through Nursing, Athletic Training, Physical therapy, medical scribe, etc. Once accepted to PA school there is two years. PA's are taught under the medical model which is the same model of medicine as Physician's. This is different then the nursing model which only nurses follow, such as NP's. The curriculum for PA school is a similar curriculum to accelerate doctors during World War 2. PA's first year is called the didactic phase. This is heavy book learning of medicine. The second year is called the clinical year. This is where PA's get 2,000 hrs in multiple specialties (Primary care, Orthopedics, OB/GYN, General Surgery, etc). To draw a comparison Doctors have two didactic years and 2 clinical years. Follow similar frame work for learning medicine but PA's have a generalist approach and MD's have a more thorough approach. After completing all of the requirements during PA school, PA students must pass the PANCE exam to become certified. The PANCE exam is a nationally certified exam. PA must retake the exam every 10 years to re-certify to practice as a PA. PA's are required to get 100 hours of CME units, which is similar to physicians. PA's and NP's have similar lengths in terms of schooling and I can delve more in depth of the differences if you like.
I'm also a PA and I love when another fellow PA steps up to increase awareness of our awesome profession! I work in family medicine in Pennsylvania. I would like to add: yes, combination programs for undergrad and PA school still exist. I did a 5 year combined undergrad and master's program and at 23, I had my MS and sat for my PANCE.
Really enjoyed this. I'm in my mid 20's and strongly leaning towards PA school. I absolutely love the idea of doing what physicians do. I really hate being in school though. It took me awhile to settle on the medical field, and even longer on the PA path. Unfortunately I'm trying to play catch up with my undergrads. Honestly I'm really jealous of the people my age in PA school or even graduating right now. I kick myself every day knowing that could have been me if I had played my cards differently. Sometimes I feel like I'm too far behind to start this path. After all, my 20's will be long gone before I can even think about working as a PA... I generally see consistent job satisfaction with PAs though, and that's really motivating to me. I know they make WAY less than MD's, but if it means I can get to work quicker as a professional, I'm all for it. I can see myself as a great psychiatric PA. But I've still got a long road ahead and that brings me down sometimes. I really appreciate videos like this though. Please keep it up. Its just the sort of thing people like me need to hear once in awhile.
This hits home. Although I'm still young (18) and still experiencing things. I wish I had more guidance before I entered my university. There were factors that made me choose my university, but those decisions were solely based on other people and not myself. I'm stuck on the 4 years undergrad and ~2 years PA school. However, I was lucky that my school has a major with an option in pre-PA. I wish you luck on your journey and keep your head up!
The PA has a huge EGO, she BLEW him away she said. If you put her on a pedestal you are going to be her FAN. Big red flag! She says he knows EVERY THING. BIG, BIG red flag. Dr. you need a woman in her twenties if you plan to have children. Think about that! Mid thirties = geriatric pregnancy. Think about that. If you are a beta man good guy you might be able to handle it with her. I can see you are going to need all of the luck in the world with her.
PA is just an assistant after all. No residency training simply means much less training. Funny how some PA would think they work with “full autonomy”. If they do want that, go through real Med school and residency.
I work with PAs daily...as they are under my supervision. I’m a MD. Don’t get me wrong, some PAs are very good but they will need extra time and dedication to receive adequate training comparing to true MDs
I both chuckled & grinned really hard during your whole video. Love your guys' relationship! ♥ Post my BSN I am seriously contemplating PA school since PA's are interchangeable where I have found that NP's are locked in a specialty. Thoughts?
My ex is a PA-C of neurosurgery and one thing she told me that always kind of made me go hmm is that she claimed she could do all the surgeries by herself, and her surgeons did not know as much as her. The one time I did mention that she was not an MD she nearly slit my throat in anger! Definitely some narcissistic traits in the woman, but I want to just confirm a PA-C is not allowed to do spine and brain surgeries without being supervised by a doctor correct? I would pretty upset if I found out a PA was doing delicate spinal surgery on me unsupervised.
pretty sure they're not from what i've researched. they can do some procedures but a physician makes the final decision and does bigger procedures like surgeries (although PAs can participate but definitely not on their own)
Excellent video ! I am a physician and work with Excellent PA's and NP's, These 2 groups are physician extenders: meaning they are supervised by physicians and SIGNIFICANTLY increase a physician's ability to provide quality care for more patients at the same time. Physicians do have more training. Generally PA's and NP's make very good money and have better hours
I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic and would love to either go to Med School or PA/NP school. I LOVE medicine. I got into this career field COMPLETELY by accident and I love it. The only problem is, is that you need to take certain math classes to get into these programs. Ie. Physics, Calculous, etc. and I would NEVER pass these classes (if I did, I would BARELY make it). Kinda sucks... I'm horrible at math and its been almost 10 years since High School, so I pretty much forgot everything LOL.
A new video great. I am currently a 2 years radiologist student in Italy. You help me so much with your videos and I’m improving my English thank to you. I really like both of you, amazing couple.
Firstly to become a Physician Assistant (PA), you must obtain a bachelors degree from an undergraduate education. This is non-specific but largely people tend to choose degrees in the sciences as the prerequisites for PA school are heavily science based (Bio 1,2 Chem 1, 2 Organic 1, Biochemistry 1, Genetics, Microbiology, Anatomy and Physiology 1, 2). Next all PA schools require direct patient care hours to apply. The AVERAGE ACCEPTED APPLICANT has ~2000 hrs. Examples of obtaining direct patient care hours is through Nursing, Athletic Training, Physical therapy, medical scribe, etc. Once accepted to PA school there is two years. PA's are taught under the medical model which is the same model of medicine as Physician's. This is different then the nursing model which only nurses follow, such as NP's. The curriculum for PA school is a similar curriculum to accelerate doctors during World War 2. PA's first year is called the didactic phase. This is heavy book learning of medicine. The second year is called the clinical year. This is where PA's get 2,000 hrs in multiple specialties (Primary care, Orthopedics, OB/GYN, General Surgery, etc). To draw a comparison Doctors have two didactic years and 2 clinical years. Follow similar frame work for learning medicine but PA's have a generalist approach and MD's have a more thorough approach. After completing all of the requirements during PA school, PA students must pass the PANCE exam to become certified. The PANCE exam is a nationally certified exam. PA must retake the exam every 10 years to re-certify to practice as a PA. PA's are required to get 100 hours of CME units, which is similar to physicians. PA's and NP's have similar lengths in terms of schooling and I can delve more in depth of the differences if you like.
Thank you for this, it’s very helpful!! I am a senior in hs and have no clue what I want to be. Right now, becoming a PA is starting to sound like something I might be interested in doing.
caesura literally. I want to be a teacher in secondary education but I think that's too easy for me and I really want to do something medical related :) pa seems like the way to go!
Caitlyn yea true it seems to be a career that doesn’t get too repetitive like what I was looking at before which was a medical laboratory scientist. I have so much respect for teachers but I could never be one, it seems like there’s not enough support for them even though they dedicate soo much :(
I like to see you together ,much love for both of you ..I’m radiology resident but I don’t have any idea about PA i think we don’t have this branch in my country .. Hope to see more videos together
I'm a Pharmacy Technician currently, but hope to go to PA school to be a PA. I don't think people understand how rigorous it is, and also how hard it is to get in. But according to a lot of people's comments I've seen on here, I guess Pharmacy Technicians shouldn't exist, either. Only Pharmacists. People don't understand that there is a varying degree of skill and knowledge that's appropriate for what they do.
I graduated 2017 DPT, I'm 28 y/o. I've been practicing for 2 years and I'm thinking of maybe going back to school to be a PA. I just find PT to be underpaid and overworked. We have a doctorate but I feel we're not respected or treated like we have one. And for the better paying jobs (SNFS) the productivity is so high we can't really treat as well as we'd while being over PTAs, collaborate with OTs/RNs and perform all the additional paper work etc. I'm really nervous about thinking of going back to school but I just see myself getting so burnt out and overworked as a PT.
What I like about P.A.s and often prefer them to doctors, is because they're not as desperately cranking the money wheel to pay off their student debts. So they spend more time listening and paying attention to your problem than doctors do. And are usually much more easily accessible than doctors. I use my judgement and sometimes will see both a doctor and a PA for the same problem to get 2 different approaches to it.
Loved it! My career goal plan is to become a PA so found this beyond useful. Can a PA do something like Drs without boarders? Or anything like travel nurses?
Lacey Lopez i know I’m not him but I’m a PA-S. I would say shadow both. You want to see what you like doing. It’s only up to you and no one else and I think shadowing is the best way to go to decide. :) good luck with whatever you decide.
He humbly defers to her, his wife but Humility doesn't seem to be her strongest quality. meantime this is light-hearted and uplifting and fun to watch thanks for the video.
What's the biggest difference between being PA vs a nurse practitioner? They seem to be very similar. If anyone could please answer that would be helpful. Great video!
It's just different ways of practicing medicine. PAs follow more of the "medical model" of medicine where they focus on more biological and pathogenic components of health. NPs follow the "nursing model" of medicine. They focus more on disease prevention and education. They both can diagnose and treat patients. NPs are allowed to have their own practice while PAs cannot, although NPs don't do surgery. NPs require less clinical hours than PAs do (720 hours compared to 2000). PAs also have a bast general knowledge of medicine, so they can practice practically anywhere where as NPs usually specialize in primary care or acute care. Very subtle differences, but it makes a big difference in how you'll be working in health care.
@@nightlythoughts4701 Most of your information is accurate, but NPs are found in many specialties. I know several NPs who worked in orthopedics and assist in surgery.
Hello! I am a mid-career person and have an undergraduate degree & MBA in Finance; however, I am now considering PA school, so I have two questions for you guys: 1) How do you think an older individual would be perceived in the applications process for PA school, in the PA program and then ultimately when searching for a job? Do you think experience in another profession would be valued (to a small degree) in the interviewing process? 2) On another video they said that you would want a GRE score in the 40th or 50th percentile. Do you agree with this or have any additional thoughts on what a competitive GRE test score would be? Thank you! Evon
Hope you guys enjoy my special guest!! 😍
Dr. Cellini She is stunning pretty lady
Yea it was really nice! You should do more collabs together ♡
This is great content! My wife and I are also a physician and PA pair!!
Love it and her accent!
I love Andriana !! Have her on all the time !
So we are just going to ignore the fact that she was a practicing PA at the age of 21!!!
Mind me asking how? Is there high school to PA school?
I just read an article about a high school senior who will also graduate as a RN prior to her hs graduation. In her case she could also likely achieve PA or NP by 21/22. Thats impressive indeed!!
One of my friends was a practicing PA at the age of 21, she got in to a direct 4 year PA program after HS and graduated in May and started working 2 months later
@@indianchika123 wow. That's pretty cool:)
I go to Hofstra university right now and they have a program for high school seniors where it’s a pre-Pa track. it’s 5 years all together that’s includes undergrad and masters degree. I wish I had know about this program in high school, I would’ve done it that way instead.
I'm looking at becoming a PA but I feel like I've had some questions that you can't look up on google and you guys helped answer those for me. Thank you! I hope you guys continue to make videos like these.
Day in the life of a PA!!
Becca ohhhhh yesssssssss
Why is America downgrading the health care to NP and PA instead of qualified doctors? In future, lets allow 5 year experienced MA to work like NP, they know equally. NP who has 17 month of training is not F*ing touching me. WannabeDoctor pretenders!!!@@mughira1012
Your wife should do a video on how she became a practicing PA at age 21! It would be super helpful!
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She said she did a four year program.
I watched while doing my chem hw ! now I want this degree more than ever thank you guysssssss 💛
Why are people conflating MD and PA you ask? There is really no comparison in education and training, so what is it? Why? Follow the $$$. A PA (or NP) is far cheaper for our increasingly corporatized healthcare system to employ. Patients are being sold out by politicians and healthcare executives that are looking to cut corners.
Politicians and healthcare execs sell out patients, while Med influencer Docs sell out both their profession AND patients! fun.
@@OregonDux Doctors in the United States are way overpaid. Why not make medical school free with more spots and cut their salaries significantly? That would solve all the issues and eliminate the need for PAs and NPs. Where I am from, a patient may have to wait months to see an MD or they can see a PA in a week...
@@billr5842 Doctors, dedicate 11+ years of their lives to education and training, making them the HIGHEST trained professionals in the healthcare system. Where is their compensation relative to others? Barely in the middle of the pack. Hospital executives, hopsital admin, and insurance executives have less education and training, yet make FAR FAR more than physicians. The CEO of unitedhealthcare makes, in 1 day, the amount a surgeon makes in a year. Over 1/3 of our healthcare spending is on bureaucracy and administration--less than 10% is spent on physician salaries. I agree that we need to invest more in educating and training physicians, rather than cutting corners by replacing physicians with midlevels that have 1/10 the hours in training. However, i strongly disagree that "paying physicians less" would solve our healthcare spending issues. If you look at WHERE we are spending exorbitant amounts of money, it's not physician salaries. In fact, of developed countries, we spend among the least amounts of total healthcare spending on physician salaries.
www.reuters.com/article/us-health-costs-administration/more-than-a-third-of-u-s-healthcare-costs-go-to-bureaucracy-idUSKBN1Z5261
www.beckershospitalreview.com/compensation-issues/physician-pay-accounts-for-86-of-total-healthcare-expenses.htmlz
www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/sunday-review/doctors-salaries-are-not-the-big-cost.html
@@OregonDux Welcome to capitalism my friend. Good luck trying to solve the issue of overpaid CEOs and admin. Also, NPs and PAs are not going anywhere unless they are found to be truly dangerous and incompetent. I do see where you're coming from with Doctor salaries but they still make more than any other doctor in other countries.
@@billr5842 There are some great solutions that would reduce our healthcare spending. Targeting a minor healthcare expenditure by outsourcing care to less qualified individuals isn't one of them. "NPs and PAs are not going anywhere unless they are found to be truly dangerous and incompetent"--as physician extenders with appropriate oversight, they shouldn't go anywhere--they're great. Practicing medicine independently? The evidence supporting similar outcomes is scarce and poor quality. Time will tell. Common sense also helps. The minimum required training hours of a Nurse Practitioner is ~5% of the required hours of a family physician throughout their training. The standards aren't the same. It's like trying to cut airline costs by putting flight attendants through an online pilot program for 1 month then having them fly independently. Go ahead and get on that plane if you wish--as long as you're making an informed decision. Conflating NP/PA's with MD/DO's is not allowing patients to make an informed decision. Cutting corners in the actual delivery of care is not the solution to reigning in healthcare spending. Cut the bloat!
"In 2018, the U.S. spent 16.9 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) on health care, nearly twice as much as the average OECD country"
"The U.S. Has Among the Highest Rates of Hospitalizations from Preventable Causes Like Diabetes and Hypertension"
"Americans Visit the Doctor Less Frequently and Have Fewer Physicians"
source: www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/jan/us-health-care-global-perspective-2019
Invest in more physicians!
Yeah I agree it’s nice to have someone who understands health care because it’s such a different field than others experience
Thanks for this video. I didn't know there was so much flexibility for PAs. I've never really wanted to be a doctor, but the PA route sounds interesting.
Lovely couple! Thanks for the helpful video :)
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I heard that PA does not sign, not reliable, the doctor signs takes the responsability. So I wonder if the patient stays in a vulnerable situation if the PA makes a mistake.
Is anyone else physically blown away by her hair?
nic_a _bic Yesss!!! Her scrubs also compliment her skin very well. She just looks good!!!
No. No one was physically blown away by her hair. That is not possible through RUclips, until augmented reality becomes much more augmented.
I’m just physically blown away by how gorgeous she is. Lucky man 👌
Whatyo momma_said well he is good looking as well!
Meeeee 😍
It is easier to be married with another medical professional as a medical professional. A lot of the time people from another careers don't understand the schedule.
I’m an Accountant and I understand my husband’s schedule just fine. He also loves explaining medical situations to me. I’m always so impressed by his knowledge. I’ve learned so much, I feel like I can diagnose people myself sometimes...lol However, I know that the medical field is much more complicated than the little I know.
The same goes with any career
Like cops and doctors etc
The schedules are similar when it comes to timing and shit. As well as what the jobs entail
Helping people out
Sawyer R im pre pa ! and a guy
@@rosebing4707 I meant understanding the medical / health field as a nurse you know what happens in a hospital. So you can understand better his schedule.
Don't take my comment personally, I am aware that there are plenty of relationships with health workers and people from other careers that are healthy and work well. What I meant was that if you are a health worker married to a health worker it is easier to understand the weird schedules and the emergencies. Getting bad cases and so on.
I am truly sorry if sounded wrong somehow, or if I offended anyone with my comment. It was not my intention.
So your wife doesn't do RUclips? I would love to watch videos PA life.
FEARLESSly MIACAMICHELLE I second this!
FEARLESSly MIACAMICHELLE Agreed!
I agree
FEARLESSly MIACAMICHELLE I agree!!
Yess me too!!
I get female cop vibes from her
@Danielle Bridgeman wtf are you on about?
Danielle Bridgeman wtf dude wtf...
She definitely has a strong personality! Sagittarius? Leo? Aries? Capricorn ?
so like badass vibes?
Hahaha!
All these men in the comments talking about “she’s scary” No. 🙄 Seems like you weak males are just intimated by a strong, assertive woman. Ignore the losers, love you two as a couple!! 💪💕
A W I really enjoyed spotting this comment. Omg! Yes!
I thought she was awesome. But i'm gonna let you in on a little secret. No man is "intimidated" by a strong assertive woman. That is something you girls tell yourselves hahaha. They just prefer easy dummies.
Where do you spot these comments I call bullshit
Lmao bruh
@@leejay6460 And the divorce settlement later
she lowkey sound like Janice from Friends lmao
loooool! That New York accent...
you know youre young when you believe janice was from friends and not from the nanny.
adriane a LMFAOOOOO
Ohh MY GOD!
malibuluv209 but they’re two different characters portrayed by two different actresses
And no, PAs are not "just as qualified". There's a reason no other country does this crap.
Im glad I was born in Germany, gonna be a medical student next year and these "np/pa/CRNA" etc. you guys have with full autonomy honestly scare me
power of the P
@@gustavgurke3389 thanks for your opinion college grad who has yet to even start Med school
who said they were
If PA's are just as qualified then why are there med schools lmao everyone wants to be a doctor but nobody wants to go med school
I can’t imagine having “full autonomy” as a provider at 21 years old... I decided to go to med school instead of becoming an NP so I could have the extra schooling.
good decision!
@@jayshah1794 May I ask why you feel PA is a better choice than NP. I’m a Sophomore in high school and these two jobs are my top options thus far.
@@arielfarra7979 same
My husband and I are both in the legal field. He's and attorney and I am a paralegal assistant finishing school to become a paralegal. Its great to be able conversations and both understand the lingo and actual laws. We at times will debate the outcome of certain high profile cases. And our family is always calling for legal advice. But I am planning to go to PA school.
What type of classes did you have to undergo to become a paralegal? And do you think its worth becoming one?
@@Hannah-ef6sg I'll speak for myself. Right now I am in a "law clerk" program, right after I finish this 2 year program I can transfer to "paralegal" program. It's doable! Go for it if you are fascinated with legal field
Could you talk about the increase rates in med students and physician suicide. It’s a huge unspoken issue in the medical field.
RE0 wow. I didn’t know about that. Is it med students or when they finish school?
@@aidanvaughan2233 during residency or md
A student committed suicide my first sem of med school 😔
Mental illness and suicides are caused by abuses.
On the day that I went to orientation at my school, one med student and one resident intern committed suicide and the whole school was in panic because it was the same day and to be quite honest, all of the new incoming students and parents were frightened and the school had to really "bullshit" their way out of it.
Fantastic video! Great synergy. Cool to see the parallel of the collaborative relationship between a husband and wife and a Doctor and PA.
How are you doing today my name is Eric moore
You got the most stunning lady as your better half😍🥰 you both look good together👌🏾
Aw thanks! I know I definitely got lucky 🙃
Super madam
PAs can do everything a physician can, with complete/full autonomy? This misinformation has led to 1 less viewer. Trying to pass a mid-level off as a physician equivalent, is definitely a misrepresentation. I hope others follow my lead and stop watching your videos.
😂😂💀
PA vs nurse practitioner video if possible plz. Thanks
velaudankutty practically the same
NP>PA.
One nurse that is working on my floor is getting her NP online in 2.5 years while she is working full time. That should tell you how much of a joke NP is compared to a PA.
I have been a RN for just shy of 20 years and am in nursing management I have supervised PAs and NP’s. There is very little difference in skill level... different approaches yes but overall the experience, age, and personality matter more. You will have a great career no matter which path you choose. I am glad I chose nursing on a personal level as I have a job with a lot of physician contact and conflict and get to dish it out (to be blunt) and would be very difficult if not impossible as a PA. For the eye rollers I am the UM/UR director for over 600 inpatient beds.
Aiden W they still are getting hands on clinical experience though. And they may still have clinical rotations their last year in NP school just like PA’s. How is that a bad thing?
Autonomy by 21 y/o and less than half the training of a physician..... wooooo buddy I'll make sure to never go to that practice.
You must have never stepped foot in any healthcare system in the US
@@DrCellini I'm sure it has happened without me being aware, but if I can help it I'll avoid that situation as much as I can.
Already had a family member suffer from NP trying to play doctor, don't need another APP who think's they "know everything" doing the same thing.
I get where you're coming from but some of the worst providers I have encountered were MDs too. I have encountered some bad PAs and NPs too. When I choose a provider, I just find whoever is highly rated and competent. If I was randomly choosing a provider, I would want an MD. If I was in the ICU or inpatient with a serious medical issue, I'd want an MD. With that being said, for outpatient services, I have encountered some very competent PAs and NPs.
@@DrCellini Is the fact that this is commonplace in US healthcare supposed to be reassuring? Have you seen our health outcomes? We don't invest in enough primary care PHYSICIANS. we trail other high income countries in this and many other important metrics.
@@OregonDux good point
You guys are adorable !.. I was considering being a PA but I’m too hands on ... I want to be a surgeon 🙏🏾 hopefully that’s in the cards for me because I don’t see myself doing anything else 😭
there are PA-Cs which are PAs that do surgery
Yo man I hope you get to be a surgeon in the future. Work hard and smart
@@annavitalia They first-assist, they do not do actual surgery and the few that do are either lying to you or are in the extreme minority.
haha... Yeah don't listen to that guy, if you are serious about surgery and wanna be at the top of your craft, for the sake of your future patients as well go to medical school
PAs do surgery
You should collab with DR. Mike
Shanika Elizabeth OMG YESS ID DIEEEE
Shanika Elizabeth YESSSS
Shanika Elizabeth it’s like Jesus collaborating with that pilot guy. It just can’t happen
"full autonomy" is how scope creep starts. Thus is a disgrace to your oath and patient safety but congrats on the views.
Do you work in US healthcare?
What does that have to do with anything? I'm an IMG btw and I think this whole PA/NP BS is just a bunch of PC garbage. I went through 6 years of ked school and hopefully next year 3 years of residency, how can you equate me with a PA/NP?
@@ahmedabdellatif6436 no one is doing that
Nice comment
@@DrCellini Jon is clearly pointing to a problem in US healthcare, you don't have to be part of it to know it exists.
You guys do not know how helpful this is! I am a senior in High-school and was trying to decide if I wanted to go the PA or MD route, as I have always wanted to be a pediatrician, and have just learned about how capable PA's are! Thanks so much for this!
What did you decide?? I’m a freshman in college right now and I’m in the exact same boat. I’ve always wanted to be a pediatrician as well, but I’ve been looking a lot into PA now!
how it is possible that a PA can practice and do WHATEVER a MD does, but they only study only half of that. Your other half can testify how HARD it is to get into a medical school and complete that program. is it really that hard to get into PA program? There are many super smart doctors, have you ever heard they finished their medical training in 2 years?
WITH all respect for you and your profession, your statement is and insult and significantly undermining medical doctors when you say, " I can do everything, diagnose and manage and treat, just like a doctor". It is exactly what the corporations in the US have created to sabotage the medical professions by devaluating what they do and lower them to a "health care provider" vs. a "doctor". that is why a PA only exists in the US. I wouldn't be surprised if a RN claims they are just like PA and they do exactly the same thing.
Having said that, you both seem to be a nice couple, both beautiful and Smart. nice videos, too.
it’s actually harder to get accepted into a PA program vs medical school. and wether or not you find that statement to be offensive it’s the truth. RN and PA have completely different tasks whereas MD and PA are much more similar.
your very truthful comment has angered all the PAs lol. The fact is the vast majority of them tried to get into medical school and failed as the educational requirements were too high, so now to placate themselves they pretend to be doctors, but unfortunately for them as they didn't go to medical school or do rigorous residency training or board exams their knowledge is greatly deficient compared to that of a physician, and they themselves are not aware of the vast difference in knowledge as when you've never been exposed to it, you simply don't know what you don't know.
Is it just me or is this guys girl dominating the relationship🤔?
I am premed and had my first baby 4 months ago. After being with him, realizing that med school, residency, and fellowship for ortho surgery (my passion) is going to take me away from my family for so many years at a time. I am 100% going into medicine as a provider, but I’m heavily leaning towards PA so I can have much better hours and actually start practicing pretty soon. Thank you for uploading this video!
Im doing PA because although i love med, im also really looking forward to being a mom when i do have children. And i want that flexibility in the future. Its a great option!!
You were Premed and got pregnant? Good Lord!
@@noggaboo how are you doing today my name is Eric moore
@@noggaboo okay cool
@@noggaboo so where are you from
They are BOTH annoying, especially her. Nothing worse than people that aren't cool trying to be cool.
I’m sorry, but this video was a waste of time. You have not addressed the difference at all. It was basically a Q&A on your cute little family of doctor and physician assistant.
ayyyy y'all answered my question! Lol, awesome video, my girlfriend is in PA school right now and i'm in medical school pursuing IR in my 3rd year. Weird, I know. Love your videos!
we're basically the same person lol
@@DrCellini hahaha, you're definitely taller than me
I would think that your hours could be different in the medical professions and that could be a problem with seeing each other? This is not a 8-5 job right?
Correct. 😊
Wow. She is such a beauty. Would love to see her more!!! Also it's super cute to see you two together
It’s abhorrent to think of the number of PA’s and NP’s who see their career as a fast track into doing what a doctor does. You don’t have half the training a physician would. To the PA: stop scope creeping, practice within your training, or you are putting patients at risk with your complete lack of willingness to admit your lack of knowledge and more limited scope. To the doc: grow a spine, you know she’s exploiting the allowances of her career, and we all know why you’re nodding your head along to this.
no one thinks that. also no one cares what you think.
@@jimcellini5255 a lot of the commenters here would like to think otherwise 🤷
What school did you go to that had a combined undergraduate with a PA program?
Sellout
How am I a sellout?
I'm scared of her. She definitely wears the pants. 😂 The way she snatched that phone and said "I'll read that"
Niccolò Machiavelli 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I notice it too.
The guy is a bit of a softie.
But I still like him.
Not so much the girl eventhough she is very smart. But a too bossy
Beta male
@@PressureandDating A Beta male doesn't become a doctor and get a wife like that lol
J. W. Anyone can become a doctor with hard work and dedication. Beta males can make it through med school and residency as so can alpha males. She’s alpha, he’s beta. They balance eachother off.
My 2 cents- General Surgeon here- if I send a patient to be evaluated by a specialist, I expect a specialist. Not a person who did 4 years undergrad and 2.5 of “med school” with what can only be described as “circumstantial experience”, evaluating said patient. If I find out this happened, I will never send another patient to you. I’m looking at you dermatology.
Dermatology is sadly notorious for that. Very disrespectful to the referring doc
Thank you
Bro shut the fuck up.
@@cheesy-hamburger3220 PA/NP detected
Lame cents there.
More Adriana please . More about PA school. How to know if you should go to Pa or MD school?
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This should help:)
Take the Mcat and Gre and see your scores
If you get a good Mcat, go to med school if your mcat is not as good as your gre do pa school. Pa school is faster tho its just 2 years.
@@Randy-us1uf that's definitely not a good mindset whatsoever. If you want to specialize in one thing, go to med school. If you prefer the lateral mobility, go to PA school.
If you are serious about practicing medicine and being at the top of your craft, go to med school
I'm currently a Pharmacy Technician. I do not want to become a pharmacist but still want to be in medicine. This is playing a big part on me deciding what I want to do. Thank you, it was very helpful and informative!
Woah. I didn’t know PA’s existed. I thought the only way to get a job where your medically helping people was to go to med school and become a doctor. It’s actually really cool to know there is a financial option I can afford to do instead. Coool.
There are also ways you can become a PA after than the typical route. I'm going to a 5 year accelerated program to be a PA. Here's a website of schools that offer that program if you're interested :) www.thepalife.com/direct-entry-and-dual-degree-bsms-physician-assistant-programs/
I also went to college thinking I would be a pediatrician. My first semester a friend told me about PA. I researched it and ever since that has been my goal. I am currently in my second year of PA school. I graduate August 2020. It’s definitely rough. They fit so much info into a short amount of time. But it’s great to not have to go to school as long and have lateral mobility unlike MDs.
NightlyThoughts thank you so much!!!
Only in US it seems.........
@@MHSMagicLuver Did you go to a 4 year college and how did your route go to get in? was it hard. Im very worried about my gpa and all sorts. How many schools did u apply to
This is not okay. Physicians and Physician Assistants require to very different training pathways.
Not really.
couple goals :)
Awesome video guys, giving some recognition to PA-Cs!
Thanks a lot!
Indeed, it was a great video!
Very nice collaboration! PAs are almost non-existent here in Nigeria. It was great getting to learn more about you guys (PAs).
What's the difference between a Dr and a PA. Easy only one of them is a Dr.
It’s really sad to see how some of these people in the comments are bashing her just because of her profession. As a premed student I learned pretty quickly that while not all healthcare professionals are the the same they have the same end goal and that is to give quality care based on their training and capabilities. Not to mention I don’t think they want to get hit with a malpractice issue. I highly doubt that an NP, PA, CRNA, or any other healthcare provider is trying to steal a physician’s job. If these prestigious and highly qualified physicians can trust them why can’t you?
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦!
Your channel is the first realistic and down to earth medical channel I have encountered so far. No exaggerating and fake talks here! I love it!
I'm a premed student right now and I was wondering if you can make a video about your premed journey!!!
Thanks a lot! 😊
How are you doing today my name is Eric moore
You two are super cute! Just found your channel and my daughter has been trying to decide which route to take. Sharing your video with her now. Best of luck to you both! God bless. 💕
How are you doing today my name is Eric moore
So a PA is like a forever resident? Since it’s under the doctor his/her whole life?
@Ay-yoo -- Not even a resident.
@Ay-yoo an anecdote is not the plural of stat
@Ay-yoo lol no, it's probably because you don't have a medical background, so you don't understand the vast difference in medical knowledge between a resident and a PA
More like a forever 2nd year med student on rotations
Mrs. Celini, Which school did you go to as an undergrad ?
The Doctor and PA should be a regular session. It is so nice to hear both perspectives.
Why did your wife move from Derm to urgent care? I am about to enter freshman year of college and I am also interested in PA. Derm is something I’m interested in as well! Also, what did she minor and major in?
Stella Janas As a PA you can change specialties as long as you have a spot available . I have been a PA for 23 years And I have done about 5 different specialties by choice and I love it !
bcaiqs so does that mean you can just switch without having a certification in that specific field that you’re interested in ?
@@lucerosutton6753 you can switch whenever no certification as long as you are a board certified PA.
Pls what course will be likely to major in to get into into PA
Ihionkhan ehijie You can major in anything as long as you get the PA school pre reqs. You could be a theater major as long as you have the pre-reqs. Those pre reqs depend on the school you’re applying too
Had no clue you could be an independent provider/PA by 21. I guess being responsible for life and death matters, prescription for controlled substances and counselling patients is a skill you learn before most people develop any maturity? Who knew...
Insanity
is that more or less maturity than this comment?
@@jimcellini5255 I'm 20 i don't have to be more mature than them
My question is how well are you guys handling the debt? That is the main thing preventing me from diving into healthcare.
radiology makes 350k ish. after taxes, it's like 210k live like a resident (50-70K) pay it off in 2-3 years max. or live off her salary alone and pay it off faster. its pretty easy to pay off med school debt in any specialty just do the math. Most of the time you can pay it back in 5 years or so.
I live for the woman’s confidenceeee ✨✨✨✨✨
PAs wish they were doctors soooo baaaaadddd but will say the most to not show it
not at all. most PAs have other interests outside of medicine
My daughter in law is a PA. She tells everyone she's a doctor. Big ego.
Omg💀💀💀💀I’m dying
Wtf😂
PAs don't really exist in Australia, they're only barely legal in one state. I think being a PA is the perfect job for me but its not a thing 😭😭
U should become an NP or move to America with a student Visa for PA
Don’t take my word for it, but Nurse Practioner sounds like the Australian equivalent of PA.
KingOfAllLamas PA’s and Nurse Practitioners are two different things in the U. S., with different capabilities & duties for each, despite being similar.
Hi, I'm Italian. We do not have PAs. So I wonder, how can someone that has attended a 3 year school make diagnosis where you need to do 4+5 years med school and residency to be a doctor? I'm not getting the concept of the PA job...
That’s exactly why they work with a doctor
Firstly to become a Physician Assistant (PA), you must obtain a bachelors degree from an undergraduate education. This is non-specific but largely people tend to choose degrees in the sciences as the prerequisites for PA school are heavily science based (Bio 1,2 Chem 1, 2 Organic 1, Biochemistry 1, Genetics, Microbiology, Anatomy and Physiology 1, 2).
Next all PA schools require direct patient care hours to apply. The AVERAGE ACCEPTED APPLICANT has ~2000 hrs. Examples of obtaining direct patient care hours is through Nursing, Athletic Training, Physical therapy, medical scribe, etc.
Once accepted to PA school there is two years. PA's are taught under the medical model which is the same model of medicine as Physician's. This is different then the nursing model which only nurses follow, such as NP's. The curriculum for PA school is a similar curriculum to accelerate doctors during World War 2. PA's first year is called the didactic phase. This is heavy book learning of medicine. The second year is called the clinical year. This is where PA's get 2,000 hrs in multiple specialties (Primary care, Orthopedics, OB/GYN, General Surgery, etc). To draw a comparison Doctors have two didactic years and 2 clinical years. Follow similar frame work for learning medicine but PA's have a generalist approach and MD's have a more thorough approach. After completing all of the requirements during PA school, PA students must pass the PANCE exam to become certified. The PANCE exam is a nationally certified exam. PA must retake the exam every 10 years to re-certify to practice as a PA.
PA's are required to get 100 hours of CME units, which is similar to physicians.
PA's and NP's have similar lengths in terms of schooling and I can delve more in depth of the differences if you like.
I'm also a PA and I love when another fellow PA steps up to increase awareness of our awesome profession! I work in family medicine in Pennsylvania.
I would like to add: yes, combination programs for undergrad and PA school still exist. I did a 5 year combined undergrad and master's program and at 23, I had my MS and sat for my PANCE.
Andie Bunker where can we find these schools?
Leen A google
Hey can Canadian undergrads become PA in USA ???
@@karand1746I would research it but yes I believe so!
This was super informative, thanks guys! She’s so lucky to have gone to a school that allowed her to get that all done in four years!!!!
Gorgeous wife! Proverbs 18;22 "He who finds a wife finds a treasure, and is favored by the Lord." This couple is living proof of this truth.
Careful now. Remember that part in the bible regarding coveting? You sir just coveted. Enjoy your afterlife down there.
Really enjoyed this. I'm in my mid 20's and strongly leaning towards PA school. I absolutely love the idea of doing what physicians do. I really hate being in school though. It took me awhile to settle on the medical field, and even longer on the PA path. Unfortunately I'm trying to play catch up with my undergrads. Honestly I'm really jealous of the people my age in PA school or even graduating right now. I kick myself every day knowing that could have been me if I had played my cards differently. Sometimes I feel like I'm too far behind to start this path. After all, my 20's will be long gone before I can even think about working as a PA...
I generally see consistent job satisfaction with PAs though, and that's really motivating to me. I know they make WAY less than MD's, but if it means I can get to work quicker as a professional, I'm all for it. I can see myself as a great psychiatric PA. But I've still got a long road ahead and that brings me down sometimes. I really appreciate videos like this though. Please keep it up. Its just the sort of thing people like me need to hear once in awhile.
This hits home. Although I'm still young (18) and still experiencing things. I wish I had more guidance before I entered my university. There were factors that made me choose my university, but those decisions were solely based on other people and not myself. I'm stuck on the 4 years undergrad and ~2 years PA school. However, I was lucky that my school has a major with an option in pre-PA. I wish you luck on your journey and keep your head up!
don't feel down about ur wrong choice ur young age u can do what u want pursue don't give up
I can’t wait to be a PA! I’m an EMT now and my goal is to become an OBGYN PA!
The PA has a huge EGO, she BLEW him away she said. If you put her on a pedestal you are going to be her FAN. Big red flag! She says he knows EVERY THING. BIG, BIG red flag. Dr. you need a woman in her twenties if you plan to have children. Think about that! Mid thirties = geriatric pregnancy. Think about that. If you are a beta man good guy you might be able to handle it with her. I can see you are going to need all of the luck in the world with her.
PA is just an assistant after all. No residency training simply means much less training. Funny how some PA would think they work with “full autonomy”. If they do want that, go through real Med school and residency.
incorrect. do some research about the PA profession before attempting to slander it
I work with PAs daily...as they are under my supervision. I’m a MD. Don’t get me wrong, some PAs are very good but they will need extra time and dedication to receive adequate training comparing to true MDs
Were you guys forced to get the C19 vaccine?
WHAT SCHOOL DID SHE ATTEND THO!?
I both chuckled & grinned really hard during your whole video. Love your guys' relationship! ♥
Post my BSN I am seriously contemplating PA school since PA's are interchangeable where I have found that NP's are locked in a specialty.
Thoughts?
My ex is a PA-C of neurosurgery and one thing she told me that always kind of made me go hmm is that she claimed she could do all the surgeries by herself, and her surgeons did not know as much as her. The one time I did mention that she was not an MD she nearly slit my throat in anger! Definitely some narcissistic traits in the woman, but I want to just confirm a PA-C is not allowed to do spine and brain surgeries without being supervised by a doctor correct? I would pretty upset if I found out a PA was doing delicate spinal surgery on me unsupervised.
pretty sure they're not from what i've researched. they can do some procedures but a physician makes the final decision and does bigger procedures like surgeries (although PAs can participate but definitely not on their own)
Excellent video ! I am a physician and work with Excellent PA's and NP's, These 2 groups are physician extenders: meaning they are supervised by physicians and SIGNIFICANTLY increase a physician's ability to provide quality care for more patients at the same time. Physicians do have more training. Generally PA's and NP's make very good money and have better hours
I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic and would love to either go to Med School or PA/NP school. I LOVE medicine. I got into this career field COMPLETELY by accident and I love it. The only problem is, is that you need to take certain math classes to get into these programs. Ie. Physics, Calculous, etc. and I would NEVER pass these classes (if I did, I would BARELY make it). Kinda sucks... I'm horrible at math and its been almost 10 years since High School, so I pretty much forgot everything LOL.
I'm sure u will do good don't give up follow your vision
Yes do it! There are a couple ex-paramedics in my medical school and they love it!
A new video great.
I am currently a 2 years radiologist student in Italy.
You help me so much with your videos and I’m improving my English thank to you.
I really like both of you, amazing couple.
happy to hear it!
You guys are so cute and very interesting to listen to.
where did your wife go to undergrad? If you don't mind sharing!
Lol
I wanted to know the school as well to see if the option is still available
She Knows everything? Would never trust a PA that is that over confident, very dangerous.
It’s called a joke....
Dr. Cellini she didn’t appear to be joking. Sorry I’ve seen many and she comes off very arrogant. JMO
Firstly to become a Physician Assistant (PA), you must obtain a bachelors degree from an undergraduate education. This is non-specific but largely people tend to choose degrees in the sciences as the prerequisites for PA school are heavily science based (Bio 1,2 Chem 1, 2 Organic 1, Biochemistry 1, Genetics, Microbiology, Anatomy and Physiology 1, 2).
Next all PA schools require direct patient care hours to apply. The AVERAGE ACCEPTED APPLICANT has ~2000 hrs. Examples of obtaining direct patient care hours is through Nursing, Athletic Training, Physical therapy, medical scribe, etc.
Once accepted to PA school there is two years. PA's are taught under the medical model which is the same model of medicine as Physician's. This is different then the nursing model which only nurses follow, such as NP's. The curriculum for PA school is a similar curriculum to accelerate doctors during World War 2. PA's first year is called the didactic phase. This is heavy book learning of medicine. The second year is called the clinical year. This is where PA's get 2,000 hrs in multiple specialties (Primary care, Orthopedics, OB/GYN, General Surgery, etc). To draw a comparison Doctors have two didactic years and 2 clinical years. Follow similar frame work for learning medicine but PA's have a generalist approach and MD's have a more thorough approach. After completing all of the requirements during PA school, PA students must pass the PANCE exam to become certified. The PANCE exam is a nationally certified exam. PA must retake the exam every 10 years to re-certify to practice as a PA.
PA's are required to get 100 hours of CME units, which is similar to physicians.
PA's and NP's have similar lengths in terms of schooling and I can delve more in depth of the differences if you like.
Thank you for this, it’s very helpful!! I am a senior in hs and have no clue what I want to be. Right now, becoming a PA is starting to sound like something I might be interested in doing.
caesura me too lmao
Caitlyn It do be hard out here, choosing our future so young and all 😫😅😭
caesura literally. I want to be a teacher in secondary education but I think that's too easy for me and I really want to do something medical related :) pa seems like the way to go!
Caitlyn yea true it seems to be a career that doesn’t get too repetitive like what I was looking at before which was a medical laboratory scientist. I have so much respect for teachers but I could never be one, it seems like there’s not enough support for them even though they dedicate soo much :(
I like to see you together ,much love for both of you ..I’m radiology resident but I don’t have any idea about PA i think we don’t have this branch in my country ..
Hope to see more videos together
Amani Fafi what country are you in? There are PAs in some countries and others are slowly adding them.
I'm a Pharmacy Technician currently, but hope to go to PA school to be a PA. I don't think people understand how rigorous it is, and also how hard it is to get in. But according to a lot of people's comments I've seen on here, I guess Pharmacy Technicians shouldn't exist, either. Only Pharmacists. People don't understand that there is a varying degree of skill and knowledge that's appropriate for what they do.
Your wife was great 👍🏾 seemed like a real natural
I graduated 2017 DPT, I'm 28 y/o. I've been practicing for 2 years and I'm thinking of maybe going back to school to be a PA. I just find PT to be underpaid and overworked. We have a doctorate but I feel we're not respected or treated like we have one. And for the better paying jobs (SNFS) the productivity is so high we can't really treat as well as we'd while being over PTAs, collaborate with OTs/RNs and perform all the additional paper work etc. I'm really nervous about thinking of going back to school but I just see myself getting so burnt out and overworked as a PT.
Did you do it?
She’s the alpha
He’s scared of her. Cuz he can’t underestimate PA in front of her. Damn 😂
AboveYou. Yesss i am feeling the awkward vibe
What I like about P.A.s and often prefer them to doctors, is because they're not as desperately cranking the money wheel to pay off their student debts. So they spend more time listening and paying attention to your problem than doctors do. And are usually much more easily accessible than doctors. I use my judgement and sometimes will see both a doctor and a PA for the same problem to get 2 different approaches to it.
Lol sellout
Thanks for the ad revenue!!
Loved it! My career goal plan is to become a PA so found this beyond useful. Can a PA do something like Drs without boarders? Or anything like travel nurses?
Yes, my sister goes every few years.
in zambia p.as are called clinical officers
PAs are great, and a real contribute to the medicalworld in general!
could not agree more!
its PAs not PA's
@@akimbo5u ok, thanks!
If I am already a rad tech would you recommend moving forward to be a (PA) physician assistant or a (RA) Radiologist Assistant?
Lacey Lopez i know I’m not him but I’m a PA-S. I would say shadow both. You want to see what you like doing. It’s only up to you and no one else and I think shadowing is the best way to go to decide. :) good luck with whatever you decide.
He humbly defers to her, his wife but Humility doesn't seem to be her strongest quality. meantime this is light-hearted and uplifting and fun to watch thanks for the video.
On my rehab unit the PA corrects all the mistakes the MD makes and also corrects all the “mental” harm he does to his patients. Thank god for PA’s.
this video was very helpful! i’m deciding between a PA or a physician!
Be a doc!
Rachael Wagner Pa!
Shadow both and see :) I’m currently a PA-S and I am so excited for this career.
What's the biggest difference between being PA vs a nurse practitioner? They seem to be very similar. If anyone could please answer that would be helpful. Great video!
enidlarek waiting for the answer to this too
It's just different ways of practicing medicine. PAs follow more of the "medical model" of medicine where they focus on more biological and pathogenic components of health. NPs follow the "nursing model" of medicine. They focus more on disease prevention and education. They both can diagnose and treat patients. NPs are allowed to have their own practice while PAs cannot, although NPs don't do surgery. NPs require less clinical hours than PAs do (720 hours compared to 2000). PAs also have a bast general knowledge of medicine, so they can practice practically anywhere where as NPs usually specialize in primary care or acute care. Very subtle differences, but it makes a big difference in how you'll be working in health care.
@@nightlythoughts4701 thank you so much that was definitely insightful
@@nightlythoughts4701 Most of your information is accurate, but NPs are found in many specialties. I know several NPs who worked in orthopedics and assist in surgery.
23magneta hmm. Thank you so much. When I was research both careers a lot of sources told me otherwise. Thanks for the info!
Hello! I am a mid-career person and have an undergraduate degree & MBA in Finance; however, I am now considering PA school, so I have two questions for you guys:
1) How do you think an older individual would be perceived in the applications process for PA school, in the PA program and then ultimately when searching for a job? Do you think experience in another profession would be valued (to a small degree) in the interviewing process?
2) On another video they said that you would want a GRE score in the 40th or 50th percentile. Do you agree with this or have any additional thoughts on what a competitive GRE test score would be?
Thank you!
Evon
Does your wife have a youtube channel ? Or can she talk more about the PA profession in another video thank you!
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