The cycling etiquete is to ask someone if you can follow his/her wheel. Good that you reacted after he asked you to stay away, but following someones wheel without even saying helo, agknowledging you are there is not a nice behaviour. BTW Thats some serious power you have there in those legs. Impressed!
Remco is a complete douche and this video is ample evidence of that. Get the hell off your high horse, thinking you own the road. Ivory castle syndrome.
I see some comments criticizing Remco here, but he has his reasons. Having a stranger right on your back wheel can sometimes feel equivalent to a tailgater that’s on your rear bumper when your driving. It’s a little unnerving and tests your patience. The amateur rider certainly shows his fitness here and didn’t do anything wrong, but I don’t feel Remco did anything wrong either.
I was riding on his wheel during a long easy ride earlier this season, no issues from his side. Probably it's not an arrogance, just doing intervals with all the surges and slowing downs + having someone you don't trust on your wheel? Honestly, most people would have done the same.
@@tomweyts how is it arrogance? He is minding his own business… training and you have somebody in your wheel just gliding a long with you and filming you… most riders hate that
What makes you think this is ok? The pros really, really hate when you do this and they hate how it makes them look arrogant when they have to tell you to stop for your and their safety. On the surface it's all innocent enough, but it doesn't take that much before it becomes dangerous -- a misjudged turn or sway here or there and it's goodbye classics, Worlds, Vuelta and everything else in that season. I remember a podcast by Brian Holm where talks about these guys and how they wait outside the riders' hotels when they're on training camps. They'll ride along in the back for the experience, but they have nowhere near the needed bike handling skills and that often puts themsleves and the pros at risk.
Every time i see this video, i wanna go do hill repeat. Remco asking not to chase is best compliment u can get, wouldn't be mad at all. Phenomenal shape, great video
it's funny to read about zone 2 for Remko and 5 for Artem, they have a difference of about 1-1.2 wkg, Artem is a strong amateur cyclist and recently was the winner of the Turkish mountain race, his heart rate of 180 is a normal working zone which helps him sit on the wheel while Remko it works, Artem also has an FTP of 5 WKg, which is a lot for an amateur and which 99% of the commentators here don’t have, it’s just ridiculous to read from you about watts and heart rate zones)))
@@chonko31 - Nothing wrong with 3.6 Chonko. Granted, you might be a fair bit away from the Pro ranks, but assuming you push yourself hard during solo training rides, my guess is that very few ‘weekend’ riders pass you by on the road. Your the one flying past them. Am I right?
Exactly cut Remco some slack here. If he feels unsafe with someone on his weel, he has every right to ask for some space. Not sure that what he did was rude, It’s hard to be polite at 350W++.
He is on a 54-42 crankset, so that means an advantage cross chaining ( less spinning more power put down on the pedals) on the 42 tooth ring, great ride and awesome video.
I don't mind if people ride behind me, except when we enter a city. I ride easy inside city limits and stop for traffic lights, and wave cars ahead. It feels unsafe in the city as I will put my breaks on, and the group on my wheel general does not. For the rest - I found Phillipe Gilbert a real king, I rode with Pantani - a nice guy. Most pro cyclists are nice guys. It is a terrible for what happened to Rebbelin - another great guy. Scarponi...
@@jancr11 We were the same age, so sure. Raced against him, But just in general, most cyclist spend 75% or their time riding in Zone 2. A 16 year old riding hard can overtake a pro rider during trainings.
1. He tried to drop you but he couldnt bro. He kept looking over his shoulder after his surges but you have put in the work so could match him. 2. Remco has the talent but his ego is going to be his undoing. 3. It is a public road not a race. You have every right to be on there. If he doesnt want you on the wheel then he can tell himself to stop riding slow or slow up and let you go around. He just showed a few hundred thousand people how arrogant he is lol. What a brat. No wonder he is losing friends in the peleton already. 4. You are not causing any danger and if you are pushing those wkg for that long then you are obviously an experienced rider especially uphill. His arrogance was uncalled for. I would have just smiled and said back to him 'stop riding slow and go bro! Lets go!'. 5. That said Id be frustrated too riding a rubbing rotor flexy SL7 and a Strava lover on his rim brake bike was keeping up with me no problems hehe. Id ask to swap bikes though vs tell the rider to stop. What a brat lol.
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@@matiasb8843 correcto, asi es, él necesita mucha concentración, como cuando el médico esta operando o como cuando el juez esta sentenciando, es su trabajo, algo que algunos les cuesta entender o jamás lo entenderán.
@@David_-cd9wm he road is big enough so you don't have to suck his wheel. Remco gets 10s of riders on his wheel every training ride, being asked for autographs and pictures whenever he stops...
@l.d.t.6327 so what?...that comes with the territory. You wanna be a star for all the money and glory you have to accept the "drudgery" of interacting with fans. Every job has its downside. These pros need to learn about branding and marketing.
Well done for straight away honouring his gesture and dropping back (also for not sitting too close on his wheel in the first place). Remco's loss now: he had a great PR opportunity here. He could have very gradually increased his power, whilst encouraging you to hold on till you dropped. Guess he had some very precise numbers to hit and wanted to focus.
Working in his case, is making your sponsors happy.. Sponsors want their product to be associated with "feel good". Doesn't matter wether it's a win, having cool banter with some youtuber or cuddling kids and bunny rabbits. Again: he missed an opprutunity here.
@@dieterbierman9803 Remco does plenty of publicity and has a good profile. I give him more respect for not pandering to annoying youtubers, 'influencers' and general attention seekers. There are some seriously weird, intense people in the endurance sport community. Particularly amongst the 'influencer' set. He doesn't owe them a thing.
@@cmathews1I don't think he's got such a good profile, image wise. Hence all the haters you see reacting to this. Personally I don't give a shit, but just think he missed an oppurtunity to gain some goodwill here.. I bet if he want's to earn lots of extra money doing shampoo commercials or something, it would help to.
People making it sound like Remco went crazy. He asked to stop following once (he didn't scream or went mental at the person), before deciding to just blow the person out of his wheel.
Should have asked to follow him first. He is the world champion, he doesn't want to train with everyone following him around like fanboys, it's understandable. Great video though.
That's rude, however he is get annoyed, I feel it's rude to say someone go like this, I get annoyed too while a random guy jump on my wheel especially with a normal bike (not a road bike) but I never tell them go because it's rude to do it, but when I find someone is training, I have no problem at all, and the company feels good, I will encourage him instead if get dropped, and many cyclist train with pro teams and the staffs tells them nothing
Acting entitled just because your world champ isn’t how to gain fans. No harm coming from someone trying to stay on the wheel. I know perhaps he doesn’t want to be responsible for any accident potentially which would also possibly endanger him and jeopardise his season but could at least be friendly about it.
@@goonzjav also being a pro rider & a world champion, doesn't mean he is above amateurs, there are amateurs who has the same level of the pro but they just didn't have the opportunity to join a pro team
Strong ride! Must be a dream to ride there at the moment with all the pro's. Just a little sad the way he told you to not follow him anymore. Cyclists run into each other all the time. Sometimes I drive quietly, lose motivation, someone overtakes me and I accelerate to drive back there. Just in the wheel, but if I can catch up I will do it again. If you don't want someone to be in your wheel, you just have to drive faster. As a professional cyclist I would just like it if people try to keep my wheel. Let's see how long they can hold out. After 5 minutes at this pace I had congratulated the person in my wheel. That's the fun part. Amateurs trying to follow pro's.
Bravo d'avoir pris la roue. Réaction étonnante du champion du monde. La route ne lui appartient pas. Il aurait été préférable qu'il vous félicite pour la performance
Non, c'est juste casse-couilles les mecs pareil, qui ne font ça que pour booster leur ego. Puis on a vite vu l'effet du draft, lorsqu'il s'est fait planter direct dès qu'il en fut sorti. Au pire, quand on veut faire le malin avec des pros, on prend sa part de relais, et ça passe crème...
@@duracell6354 : c'est juste ton opinion. Le mec qui fait ça le fait juste pour se mettre en avant. C'est encore pire quand il met ça sur youtube pour gagner des vues ; dans son cas c'est pas juste de l'ego, c'est ego + fric. Surtout qu'il y aura toujours des abrutis pour s'extasier devant quelqu'un prenant la roue d'un autre, alors qu'avec assez de vent il est possible de pousser 40% de watts en moins que celui qui tire... Encore plus quand le mec de devant se met debout pendant que l'autre reste bien abrité. On a vu le résultat dès qu'il a un peu perdu sa roue, mais bon, il doit être aussi fort que Remco vu qu'il a tenu sa roue. Lui c'est un champion, avec une mentalité de champion. Vous vous jugez avec une qui n'en est pas une, et visiblement pas même celle d'un sportif habitué aux us et coutumes : t'évites de sucer la roue des gens sans prendre de relais, car dans ce cas t'es juste une nuisance.
Even if it pisses you off, you can't just tell to someone behind you on a slope to slow down and go back off, because for you there's another way to solve the problem: speed up a bit more than him for a few hundred meters... and normally there won't be the problem anymore, you'll be alone. If this is not possible, you have to tolerate the problem.
i agree but we sould understant him, he is focused on his training and it can be really frustrating when someone follow you during your "private" preparation
@@cypr1en723 Bonne objection. N'empêche, entre les deux maux (voir sa séance un peu parasitée vs. se prendre trop au sérieux alors qu'on a la chance, grâce à l'intérêt du public, d'être payé une fortune pour faire ce que tous les autres passionnés font gratuitement le weekend), je choisirais d'éviter le second.
In this comment section: It's public roads... He's world champion... He shouldn't know the concept of 'personal space'... 🤔 Good on you to meet him. Great you could follow him for a few minutes. Fair of you to drop back when asked. If you had asked, perhaps he would have been ok for a bit longer. But all in all, public roads or not, personal space is still a thing, and anyone who rides themselves knows how annoying it can be, let alone the increased risk of wheel clipping (definitely when one party's going all-out).
Dont delete it. Its already going around the internet elsewhere. Theres no benefits to you if you delete it and he doesn't have a right to tell you what to do.
I don't have any experience with this but is it common for riders to stick to other riders wheels when training alone? It would annoy the hell out of me if there was someone breathing down my neck when i just wanted to do my training in peace.
Cheap furniture felt pads placed on GoPro mics work wonderfully in suppressing wind noise! Nice colors, is it some adjustment in post or one of GoPro color presets?
Remco was... silly on that one. If you don't want someone else on your wheel, just sprint away. No one can simply forbid someone to be on the wheel. That's ridiculous.
nah its actually annoying as hell when someone is following without asking first or even just saying hi, and remco probably has to keep to his intervals and not throw random sprints. also if he wouldn't tell anyone off they'd probably try to sprint with him and create dangerous situations.
Wrong. It's just rude and retarded to ride on the wheel of someone you don't know... not to mention DANGEROUS. Only a complete douchebag would do that--especially UPHILL... where there is ZERO reason to ever ride on anyone's wheel. (There is no slipstream / drafting benefit when climbing--particularly something steep.)
It supprised me he didnt react why you where following him. Remco is a verry good in the mountens. Maybe not like pogacar but verry close. You should be proud of youreself you could follow him that long... I noteced a few times he went to the left to let you feeling the wind. Remco is my countrymen as Wout and they both verry popular in belgium. We have now a thirth upcomming big talent, his name is Cian. He is even better in moutenstages.
I'm a lot slower than Remco, but I feel annoyed too when I'm on a training ride/run, someone who is a little slower than me tries to follow me and thus literally breathe down my neck. It's just a personal preference to not have someone super close to me. I do understand the road is public so it's everyone's right to cycle/run as close to someone as you want, but Remco also has the right to ask if they could stay away. Artem here very kindly did as asked, I guess out of respect for the world champ and also another humanbeing. Don't see how either side did anything wrong here. (Sure Remco could have asked with a big smile on his face. But he doesn't have to. No one is required to always be on a jolly jolly mood)
I agree with most of your comment, knowing how annoying it is when a random stranger just sits on your wheel, no request, no nothing just panting behind. I think it was wrong he's training, just leave him alone - there are rights and then there's basic manners and courtesy to others
@@sampreece You know when sometimes people have a training plan they want to follow? Or they are on a long session and not want to throw in sprint repeats because of strangers want to get overly close?
@@xx765 Yea I get the arrogance of feeling like people around you should just do what you want. Pro athletes aren't special. They are overpaid distractions from things that actually matter.
I admire cyclists even tho I don't really follow competitions. And I understand people talking about his reaction. But from a person like me, the worst thing in this video is to see how is he more than once (and you once also, if I am not mistaken), crossing the solid white line in a mountain road open to vehicles. Train, enjoy cycling, but don't ignore safety/trafffic rules.
La route est a tout le monde ....et ce champion du monde fait un stop a ce monsieur .....lamentable champion du monde ????ils deviennent comme les footeux effroyable...et bravo à ce monsieur
Espero que la DGT les ponga una buena multa a los dos por circular por el carril contrario. Luego nos quejamos cuando hay accidentes, pero lo primero que tenemos que hacer los ciclistas es cumplir con las normas de circulación.
Strong ride. I’m sure Remco does not want someone breathing down his neck. He had enough and took off. If anything you should not ride directly behind him.
Rule of the road is you can draft whoever you want. There was no danger here and Remco new he was behind him. Instead of being a douche he should represent the WC jersey WAY better. Without fans his sponsors dont make money and neither will he. He didnt know who this kid was or who is dad was connected too. His ego just couldnt handle a Strava lover keeping up when he was obviously pushing the wkg.
@@theoperkinson6574 I agree but the guy sounded like he was at his limit. Would you like someone heavy breathing behind you. I’m sure Remco could have slowed down and chatted with the guy, encourag him before riding him off his wheel but that’s Remco’s choice.
@@arthurreyes2632 If I was one of the biggest cycling celebrity in the world I'd find it normal that an amateur cyclist of that level (he can follow Remco, he's super impressive) would want to follow me and I would understand that this single insignificant event for me would have importance for the other guy and I wouldn't mind
Las normas de circulación para los coches nada más eeh ! Os saltais el código a todas horas ( curvas de izda por el carril contrario) que guapo ....... y luego pedís respeto a los demás
Excellent climb brother!! Roads are public. Remco is world champion, he has all my respect but he is a cyclist like all of us... when you do not want someone in your wheel, it is not necessary to express this with words... you just increase the pace and go.
Not a remco fan, but i think he’s right to tell you to back off. It’s easier for you to follow his wheel, so the power/effort doesn’t really say something, but more important , it’s annoying when you are training and there’s somebody in your wheel . Some info shouldn’t be shared with the web. Same whould be if you letting him ride in your wheel, it’s not the training he went out for. Why not stay in the wheel for 2 mins and then back off?
Franchement, bravo d avoir tenu la cadence infernale initiée par Remco. Après quand il dit Stop, c est pour que tu ne te mettes pas dans le rouge je pense. Encore bravo!
@@Raedaluofi I also don't like someone sticking in my wheel while I'm doing an interval. 1 overlap of wheels (even on a climb) could mean a huge mess. I do think Remco is done being injured by stupid things... stop being pessimistic because Remco is just a guy with a strong character (what many people don't have these days).
@@UserName24249 i think it indeed is safety that hes after, and also that way nobody can use poser date to calculate how much he does on training. An maybe he just said it so late on the climb because he felt he was to close and wasnt that he couldnt ride with him but just not that close
He looked around in frustration to see you were still there... I think you should give yourself the credit here - he wanted to shake you off but couldn't, hence his look back and annoyance!@@artem4ik19
Hi. Great effort!👏 I just have one question. Did Remco speed up after he signaled you to leave him? Or could you have followed him longer? An article on the internet says Remco purposely sped up after that.
I understand his annoyance but also it is a public road and he does not own it, if i where remoc though id probably of got mad too, its bad enough people following me up climbs and just sitting there without giving a turn and im no Remco Evenepoel 😂
@@misaeltejada6239 You don't realize how foolish that rmark is? He probably get followed constantly. Of course, that annoys him. Like it would almost every rider. He wasn't unpolite, just made clear he did not enjoy that.
@@misaeltejada6239 what type of logic this is, So if you don’t want to get filmed and followed everywhere, you should stay inside? I think sports athletes are entitled to their social bubble and privacy lol
I hope you did a PR in this climb ! well done, I don't get the point if someone wants to try to follow his rythm, if he felt not confy, he can push more the pedal and tha'ts it :)
En mi opinión, en una carretera pública, ¿quién eres para decirle al otro que se eche para atrás? Si tiene vatios para ir ahí, ¿a ti qué te importa, si no estás en tu casa? Y ¿no estás usando a los otros ciclistas que adelantas como balizas? Entonces, ¿por qué otro ciclista no puede aprovecharse de tu nivel para hacerse un test, si tú también te estás aprovechando de las referencias que te están dando los otros?
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The cycling etiquete is to ask someone if you can follow his/her wheel. Good that you reacted after he asked you to stay away, but following someones wheel without even saying helo, agknowledging you are there is not a nice behaviour. BTW Thats some serious power you have there in those legs. Impressed!
True, but also asking to stand back after you tried (expected) and failed to drop someone on an interval isn’t nice either.
Remco is a complete douche and this video is ample evidence of that. Get the hell off your high horse, thinking you own the road. Ivory castle syndrome.
drop I mean, make it fall.
No issue to follow he wheel without asking lmao.
that Zwift sound is killing me 😂
Yes I lol’d heavily as soon as I heard it
It made me stop and try to close Zwift . . .
@@mathewrose2951 I started spinning my legs even though I’m lying on my couch
😂😂😂😂 I was thinking the same thing… someone’s gonna be getting a letter.. 😂😂
@@goonzjav😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I see some comments criticizing Remco here, but he has his reasons. Having a stranger right on your back wheel can sometimes feel equivalent to a tailgater that’s on your rear bumper when your driving. It’s a little unnerving and tests your patience. The amateur rider certainly shows his fitness here and didn’t do anything wrong, but I don’t feel Remco did anything wrong either.
I was riding on his wheel during a long easy ride earlier this season, no issues from his side. Probably it's not an arrogance, just doing intervals with all the surges and slowing downs + having someone you don't trust on your wheel? Honestly, most people would have done the same.
nah its arrogance ... he's known for it
@@tomweyts how is it arrogance? He is minding his own business… training and you have somebody in your wheel just gliding a long with you and filming you… most riders hate that
@@tomweyts no you just don't stay in the wheels without asking!
Dude, you're going up a damn mountain how fast are you guys going that he's so worried about getting rear end? 😂
@@misaeltejada6239 30 kph during the surges, as you can see on the video
What makes you think this is ok? The pros really, really hate when you do this and they hate how it makes them look arrogant when they have to tell you to stop for your and their safety.
On the surface it's all innocent enough, but it doesn't take that much before it becomes dangerous -- a misjudged turn or sway here or there and it's goodbye classics, Worlds, Vuelta and everything else in that season.
I remember a podcast by Brian Holm where talks about these guys and how they wait outside the riders' hotels when they're on training camps. They'll ride along in the back for the experience, but they have nowhere near the needed bike handling skills and that often puts themsleves and the pros at risk.
This comment should be automatically pasted as a reply under every comment saying "oh how arrogant".
at the end... he rides on an open and a public road. if he doesn't want followers on his tail, then he can always breakaway... or not.
Every time i see this video, i wanna go do hill repeat.
Remco asking not to chase is best compliment u can get, wouldn't be mad at all. Phenomenal shape, great video
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Just goes to show what an utter asshole Remco actually is.
it's funny to read about zone 2 for Remko and 5 for Artem, they have a difference of about 1-1.2 wkg, Artem is a strong amateur cyclist and recently was the winner of the Turkish mountain race, his heart rate of 180 is a normal working zone which helps him sit on the wheel while Remko it works, Artem also has an FTP of 5 WKg, which is a lot for an amateur and which 99% of the commentators here don’t have, it’s just ridiculous to read from you about watts and heart rate zones)))
And I’m proud with my 3W/kg FTP 😂🎉
Well actually 3,6 W/kg
gotta count in the massive doping in pro cycling
@@chonko31 - Nothing wrong with 3.6 Chonko. Granted, you might be a fair bit away from the Pro ranks, but assuming you push yourself hard during solo training rides, my guess is that very few ‘weekend’ riders pass you by on the road. Your the one flying past them. Am I right?
Me with my 2,4 💀 Women power 😂
Impressive! Well done for respecting his request to stay back. He must have enough people following him around all the time.
Exactly cut Remco some slack here. If he feels unsafe with someone on his weel, he has every right to ask for some space. Not sure that what he did was rude,
It’s hard to be polite at 350W++.
yeah and he shouldnt wear the world champion jersey if he wants no attention
the background tune 🤣 impressive riding man! that's some serieus power you are putting out 💪
I have nausea just by hearing it
Same tune as in the Zwift app (in the menu not at riding).
You did something right in your training when the World Champion has to tell you to stay back instead of just riding away ;)
uhu, have you seen his heartbeat rate? Maybe better he backed off, for his own good
@@robsteries If you HR is under 200 then you still got more left.
@durianrider wow, you're dumb, not everyone has the same max heart rate. This guy was clearly on the limit lol.
@@durianriders Even at 45?
@@dzrdza HR is individual, some go higher some go lower... stop trying compare HR... makes no sense
He is on a 54-42 crankset, so that means an advantage cross chaining ( less spinning more power put down on the pedals) on the 42 tooth ring, great ride and awesome video.
how is cross chaining an advantage?
Interesting to see how he works to maintain constant power through the turns. Thanks for the share o/
I don't mind if people ride behind me, except when we enter a city. I ride easy inside city limits and stop for traffic lights, and wave cars ahead. It feels unsafe in the city as I will put my breaks on, and the group on my wheel general does not. For the rest - I found Phillipe Gilbert a real king, I rode with Pantani - a nice guy. Most pro cyclists are nice guys. It is a terrible for what happened to Rebbelin - another great guy. Scarponi...
with pantani?
@@jancr11 We were the same age, so sure. Raced against him, But just in general, most cyclist spend 75% or their time riding in Zone 2. A 16 year old riding hard can overtake a pro rider during trainings.
You did a good ride. Congrats for such strength
1. He tried to drop you but he couldnt bro. He kept looking over his shoulder after his surges but you have put in the work so could match him.
2. Remco has the talent but his ego is going to be his undoing.
3. It is a public road not a race. You have every right to be on there. If he doesnt want you on the wheel then he can tell himself to stop riding slow or slow up and let you go around. He just showed a few hundred thousand people how arrogant he is lol. What a brat. No wonder he is losing friends in the peleton already.
4. You are not causing any danger and if you are pushing those wkg for that long then you are obviously an experienced rider especially uphill. His arrogance was uncalled for. I would have just smiled and said back to him 'stop riding slow and go bro! Lets go!'.
5. That said Id be frustrated too riding a rubbing rotor flexy SL7 and a Strava lover on his rim brake bike was keeping up with me no problems hehe. Id ask to swap bikes though vs tell the rider to stop. What a brat lol.
Thanks for support ✌
Ciclistas profesionales que se creen súper estrellas!!! Pero es la típica actitud de alguien que no disfruta lo que hace... Quien disfruta el ciclismo te invita a seguir... Buen registro!!!
Esta trabajando, se entiende que le pueda molestar pero tu quejate si quieres
@@matiasb8843 correcto, asi es, él necesita mucha concentración, como cuando el médico esta operando o como cuando el juez esta sentenciando, es su trabajo, algo que algunos les cuesta entender o jamás lo entenderán.
@@Iccarolibre la carretera no es suya , aunque lo parece porque poco más y va por el carril contrario el flipao
@@David_-cd9wm he road is big enough so you don't have to suck his wheel. Remco gets 10s of riders on his wheel every training ride, being asked for autographs and pictures whenever he stops...
@l.d.t.6327 so what?...that comes with the territory. You wanna be a star for all the money and glory you have to accept the "drudgery" of interacting with fans. Every job has its downside. These pros need to learn about branding and marketing.
You should have passed him instead. He can't complain if you're out front. Nice video, and great climb!
My guy was in zone 10 the entire ride.
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That's what EPO can do for you bro!
Well done for straight away honouring his gesture and dropping back (also for not sitting too close on his wheel in the first place). Remco's loss now: he had a great PR opportunity here. He could have very gradually increased his power, whilst encouraging you to hold on till you dropped. Guess he had some very precise numbers to hit and wanted to focus.
I don't think Remco cares for the credits he would get for dropping an amateur rider lol. He was probably just sticking to his training plan.
The guy is a professional, he is not riding, he is working. That's a big difference
Working in his case, is making your sponsors happy.. Sponsors want their product to be associated with "feel good". Doesn't matter wether it's a win, having cool banter with some youtuber or cuddling kids and bunny rabbits. Again: he missed an opprutunity here.
@@dieterbierman9803 Remco does plenty of publicity and has a good profile. I give him more respect for not pandering to annoying youtubers, 'influencers' and general attention seekers.
There are some seriously weird, intense people in the endurance sport community. Particularly amongst the 'influencer' set. He doesn't owe them a thing.
@@cmathews1I don't think he's got such a good profile, image wise. Hence all the haters you see reacting to this. Personally I don't give a shit, but just think he missed an oppurtunity to gain some goodwill here.. I bet if he want's to earn lots of extra money doing shampoo commercials or something, it would help to.
Can we just acknowledge how good a shape the guy recording is. Bravo.
Beautiful climb. Great effort. I'd still be at the bottom when you got to the top. 😁
Brother, you LEGIT! You laying down some serious watts.
People making it sound like Remco went crazy. He asked to stop following once (he didn't scream or went mental at the person), before deciding to just blow the person out of his wheel.
didnt even care about dropping them, just doing his interval lol
Should have asked to follow him first. He is the world champion, he doesn't want to train with everyone following him around like fanboys, it's understandable. Great video though.
Its a public road. If anyone wants to stay in his wheel they are allowed to (As long as they can keep up ofcourse)
That's rude, however he is get annoyed, I feel it's rude to say someone go like this, I get annoyed too while a random guy jump on my wheel especially with a normal bike (not a road bike) but I never tell them go because it's rude to do it, but when I find someone is training, I have no problem at all, and the company feels good, I will encourage him instead if get dropped, and many cyclist train with pro teams and the staffs tells them nothing
Acting entitled just because your world champ isn’t how to gain fans. No harm coming from someone trying to stay on the wheel. I know perhaps he doesn’t want to be responsible for any accident potentially which would also possibly endanger him and jeopardise his season but could at least be friendly about it.
@@goonzjav also being a pro rider & a world champion, doesn't mean he is above amateurs, there are amateurs who has the same level of the pro but they just didn't have the opportunity to join a pro team
@@redben9046 this is true but he isn’t to know this. Not defending him all I’m saying is he could have dealt with it better for sure.
Strong ride! Must be a dream to ride there at the moment with all the pro's. Just a little sad the way he told you to not follow him anymore. Cyclists run into each other all the time. Sometimes I drive quietly, lose motivation, someone overtakes me and I accelerate to drive back there. Just in the wheel, but if I can catch up I will do it again. If you don't want someone to be in your wheel, you just have to drive faster. As a professional cyclist I would just like it if people try to keep my wheel. Let's see how long they can hold out. After 5 minutes at this pace I had congratulated the person in my wheel. That's the fun part. Amateurs trying to follow pro's.
ALICANTE!!!!! THE PARADISE OF CYCLING!!!!!!
3:06 and he has earpods, right? In Spain this is Ilegal because you have to be focus on the road
Bravo d'avoir pris la roue. Réaction étonnante du champion du monde. La route ne lui appartient pas. Il aurait été préférable qu'il vous félicite pour la performance
Exact
Non, c'est juste casse-couilles les mecs pareil, qui ne font ça que pour booster leur ego. Puis on a vite vu l'effet du draft, lorsqu'il s'est fait planter direct dès qu'il en fut sorti. Au pire, quand on veut faire le malin avec des pros, on prend sa part de relais, et ça passe crème...
Bah surtout que c'était pas gênant qu'il soit derrière. J'aime bien remco mais son comportement est souvent pas ouf
@@duracell6354 : c'est juste ton opinion. Le mec qui fait ça le fait juste pour se mettre en avant. C'est encore pire quand il met ça sur youtube pour gagner des vues ; dans son cas c'est pas juste de l'ego, c'est ego + fric. Surtout qu'il y aura toujours des abrutis pour s'extasier devant quelqu'un prenant la roue d'un autre, alors qu'avec assez de vent il est possible de pousser 40% de watts en moins que celui qui tire... Encore plus quand le mec de devant se met debout pendant que l'autre reste bien abrité. On a vu le résultat dès qu'il a un peu perdu sa roue, mais bon, il doit être aussi fort que Remco vu qu'il a tenu sa roue.
Lui c'est un champion, avec une mentalité de champion. Vous vous jugez avec une qui n'en est pas une, et visiblement pas même celle d'un sportif habitué aux us et coutumes : t'évites de sucer la roue des gens sans prendre de relais, car dans ce cas t'es juste une nuisance.
@@dupondavignon869
Il a mangé ton 4 heure!? ou quoi?
Félicitations d'avoir rester dans les roues. Great
Ni que la carretera fuera suya... en fin. Campeón del mundo hay que serlo fuera de las carreras, como persona antes que nada.
Amén...
Should've just went around him instead of dropping back 😆
Sprinting away from him and taking an other route or faking that someone calls you to don't have the shame that he overtakes you again.
Silly you, look at his heartbeat. He would have died with a heart attack ;)
Bom vídeo. Você roda super bem. Assisti a outros vídeos seus e gostei.
O Remco é um bom piloto, mas o que tem de arrogância é impressionante.
Strange reaction from the world champion regarding you… but really great performance from you on his wheel. You impressed me !
Bravo!Tough ride indeed!
About Remco public roads are public, a gentlemen's agreement is preferable than a suspect of arrogance! This is not football!
Even if it pisses you off, you can't just tell to someone behind you on a slope to slow down and go back off, because for you there's another way to solve the problem: speed up a bit more than him for a few hundred meters... and normally there won't be the problem anymore, you'll be alone. If this is not possible, you have to tolerate the problem.
It is not good to me to say someone 'back off '.for me if theres a rider following me. I don't care, just ride thats all.
I make people ride through and take a turn.. always.
85% of the time they back off at this point.
@@livibam Smart.
i agree but we sould understant him, he is focused on his training and it can be really frustrating when someone follow you during your "private" preparation
@@cypr1en723 Bonne objection.
N'empêche, entre les deux maux (voir sa séance un peu parasitée vs. se prendre trop au sérieux alors qu'on a la chance, grâce à l'intérêt du public, d'être payé une fortune pour faire ce que tous les autres passionnés font gratuitement le weekend), je choisirais d'éviter le second.
In this comment section: It's public roads... He's world champion... He shouldn't know the concept of 'personal space'... 🤔
Good on you to meet him. Great you could follow him for a few minutes. Fair of you to drop back when asked. If you had asked, perhaps he would have been ok for a bit longer. But all in all, public roads or not, personal space is still a thing, and anyone who rides themselves knows how annoying it can be, let alone the increased risk of wheel clipping (definitely when one party's going all-out).
Is he too famous to get dropped by a amateur 😂
Dont delete it. Its already going around the internet elsewhere. Theres no benefits to you if you delete it and he doesn't have a right to tell you what to do.
Cheguei aqui através de uma reportagem no brazil e ja vou me inscrever no canal, parabéns que canal fantástico!
Gracias✌
You’re next to be drafted - to the team👏
He can't even follow him,.... How pathetic and you have to imagine remco is only 22
Good effort, I think I would have stayed 10-20 metres behind him though.
he even takes care of curve technice in the uphill
I don't have any experience with this but is it common for riders to stick to other riders wheels when training alone? It would annoy the hell out of me if there was someone breathing down my neck when i just wanted to do my training in peace.
Meanwhile Remco was on 6 hour endurance ride listening to podcast and dyeing from boredom :D
Cheap furniture felt pads placed on GoPro mics work wonderfully in suppressing wind noise! Nice colors, is it some adjustment in post or one of GoPro color presets?
No adjustments, just pure video straight from Gopro11
very strong ride. Congrats.
Why didn't you use a power-up?
It must be a dream to ride in Spain at this moment with al those pro cyclists
Where is this Climb?
It's in Argentina
@@boulashnikof no
@@coronavirus2609 Yes it is, tour of San Juan
@@Itsoliviaaaa420 this is in Calpe, in his habitual Ride home
Оце то да. Не думав що натраплю на таке відео в рекомендаціях. Дуже круто, Артем. Не раз чув про тебе на УАТ. Ти мега потужний. Так тримати! 🟦🟨
Дякую друже 🇺🇦 Буде ще багато відосів😉
@@artem4ik19 підписався, буду із задоволенням спостерігати, та чекати нових відео. Дай там жару, покажи їм так, які крепкі в нас хлопаки
Remco was... silly on that one. If you don't want someone else on your wheel, just sprint away. No one can simply forbid someone to be on the wheel. That's ridiculous.
nah its actually annoying as hell when someone is following without asking first or even just saying hi, and remco probably has to keep to his intervals and not throw random sprints. also if he wouldn't tell anyone off they'd probably try to sprint with him and create dangerous situations.
Wrong. It's just rude and retarded to ride on the wheel of someone you don't know... not to mention DANGEROUS. Only a complete douchebag would do that--especially UPHILL... where there is ZERO reason to ever ride on anyone's wheel. (There is no slipstream / drafting benefit when climbing--particularly something steep.)
Especially when you are being filmed without permission
@@rebinu thats right
Following someone without agreement is such a rude behavior.
Remco was forced to interval not by his intention
It supprised me he didnt react why you where following him. Remco is a verry good in the mountens. Maybe not like pogacar but verry close. You should be proud of youreself you could follow him that long... I noteced a few times he went to the left to let you feeling the wind. Remco is my countrymen as Wout and they both verry popular in belgium. We have now a thirth upcomming big talent, his name is Cian. He is even better in moutenstages.
I'm a lot slower than Remco, but I feel annoyed too when I'm on a training ride/run, someone who is a little slower than me tries to follow me and thus literally breathe down my neck. It's just a personal preference to not have someone super close to me. I do understand the road is public so it's everyone's right to cycle/run as close to someone as you want, but Remco also has the right to ask if they could stay away. Artem here very kindly did as asked, I guess out of respect for the world champ and also another humanbeing. Don't see how either side did anything wrong here. (Sure Remco could have asked with a big smile on his face. But he doesn't have to. No one is required to always be on a jolly jolly mood)
I agree with most of your comment, knowing how annoying it is when a random stranger just sits on your wheel, no request, no nothing just panting behind. I think it was wrong he's training, just leave him alone - there are rights and then there's basic manners and courtesy to others
Agreed, fine if it's team and you've got an agreement. Weird if it's an unknown...
If they are slower than you then just speed up...
@@sampreece You know when sometimes people have a training plan they want to follow? Or they are on a long session and not want to throw in sprint repeats because of strangers want to get overly close?
@@xx765 Yea I get the arrogance of feeling like people around you should just do what you want. Pro athletes aren't special. They are overpaid distractions from things that actually matter.
I admire cyclists even tho I don't really follow competitions. And I understand people talking about his reaction. But from a person like me, the worst thing in this video is to see how is he more than once (and you once also, if I am not mistaken), crossing the solid white line in a mountain road open to vehicles. Train, enjoy cycling, but don't ignore safety/trafffic rules.
I would have overtaken him after that and once he catches up again to me, I'd wave him to stay back just like he did
🤣
😂
That is a superb idea.. though the heart rate was over 180 at that time so possibly at peak capacity. But I love the attitude with this idea.
What app did you use to add informations (speed, power, hr…) on your video please?
La route est a tout le monde ....et ce champion du monde fait un stop a ce monsieur .....lamentable champion du monde ????ils deviennent comme les footeux effroyable...et bravo à ce monsieur
Il a pas envie d'être blessé par un fan avec trop de zèle qui lui tape la roue 🤷
@@arkitect5692 dans une montée ...allons il a pas envie d avoir du monde autour de lui ......dans une descente je le comprendrais mais pas la
Espero que la DGT les ponga una buena multa a los dos por circular por el carril contrario. Luego nos quejamos cuando hay accidentes, pero lo primero que tenemos que hacer los ciclistas es cumplir con las normas de circulación.
Lo mismo he pensado yo, y en una de las curvas pasan muy cerca de un todoterreno. Libran por los pelos
The zwift track is such a troll
Great leg's, did you have Strava?
Strong ride. I’m sure Remco does not want someone breathing down his neck. He had enough and took off. If anything you should not ride directly behind him.
Rule of the road is you can draft whoever you want. There was no danger here and Remco new he was behind him. Instead of being a douche he should represent the WC jersey WAY better. Without fans his sponsors dont make money and neither will he.
He didnt know who this kid was or who is dad was connected too. His ego just couldnt handle a Strava lover keeping up when he was obviously pushing the wkg.
They were climbing, no danger at all. I can understand while being at 40km/h +, but climbing at like 18 km/h is not dangerous at all.
@@theoperkinson6574
I agree but the guy sounded like he was at his limit. Would you like someone heavy breathing behind you. I’m sure Remco could have slowed down and chatted with the guy, encourag him before riding him off his wheel but that’s Remco’s choice.
@@arthurreyes2632 If I was one of the biggest cycling celebrity in the world I'd find it normal that an amateur cyclist of that level (he can follow Remco, he's super impressive) would want to follow me and I would understand that this single insignificant event for me would have importance for the other guy and I wouldn't mind
@@durianriders remco just showed him levels, this guy will always be an amateur as remco just whooped him quiet easily
Great effort well done 👍
you wouldn't have done it too long anymore mate ;) look at your heartbeat...
He was afraid !! 😂 Good job 👍
Good job , he was rude and unprofessional with his actions gj💪
Las normas de circulación para los coches nada más eeh ! Os saltais el código a todas horas ( curvas de izda por el carril contrario) que guapo ....... y luego pedís respeto a los demás
3:O5 jajajjajaj pobrecito al cvampeón del mundo le molesta que un modesto aficionado le siga la rueda a más de 180 PPM jajajajaj
Eso digo yo menudo doña pupas.
Artem, now I'm not so worried that once on Obukhovka I couldn't hold your wheel😁
Excellent climb brother!! Roads are public. Remco is world champion, he has all my respect but he is a cyclist like all of us... when you do not want someone in your wheel, it is not necessary to express this with words... you just increase the pace and go.
he is not gonna mess up his training for some random amateur. he just told him off and the dude was ok with it, not that deep
I literally thought my Zwift App was running in the background of my phone 😂😂 real life Watopia shit!!
Me encanta como va cruzando la linea central en via pública... Luego que si los coches no respetan...
Q razón tienes, se llame Remco o Perico de los palotes , primero respetar las normas
Joa Almeida eres tú??? Es similar su estilo de carrera, lo sueltan y luego llega otra vez jjjjj gran trabajo 😎✌️
5:20 is that Pogacar's girlfriend?
Not a remco fan, but i think he’s right to tell you to back off. It’s easier for you to follow his wheel, so the power/effort doesn’t really say something, but more important , it’s annoying when you are training and there’s somebody in your wheel . Some info shouldn’t be shared with the web. Same whould be if you letting him ride in your wheel, it’s not the training he went out for. Why not stay in the wheel for 2 mins and then back off?
Well done keep training like this!!! And the next time you approach a world champion and he tells you to go back... go ahead.
or just respect a pro cyclist doing his job and back off, you are here for holidays but he is working
Franchement, bravo d avoir tenu la cadence infernale initiée par Remco. Après quand il dit Stop, c est pour que tu ne te mettes pas dans le rouge je pense. Encore bravo!
Very frustrating when you can't drop the unknown amateur rider. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Remco is just showing him levels, no wonder he is and always will be an amateur when you can't follow a 22 years old man. Like a dog put on his place.
Should have sprinted past him when he told you to stop then go hide behind some bushes, he'd never know 🤣
360w and remco looks like he's in low zone 2 👀
Def zone 3
Knowing that he can do 6+ watts/kg for 40+ minute climbs, 360w is defenitely not easy, but still comfortable.
@@Tibovl nah OP is 69kg, Remco must be around 60? He's probably not doing 350
@@angelmpalomares Remco was about 61kg before the start of the vuelta. He's probably closer to 64kg now. Not that big of a difference.
3:05 Remco: "you are now banished from this realm, be gone!"
Good effort ! Just don’t know why he sayed stop to you …..
the rider behind also creates an aerodynamic effect
@@Dz0rg not to him though! Also it’s a climb 🤷🏽♂️ I think it’s pure arrogance from Remco
@@Raedaluofi I also don't like someone sticking in my wheel while I'm doing an interval. 1 overlap of wheels (even on a climb) could mean a huge mess. I do think Remco is done being injured by stupid things... stop being pessimistic because Remco is just a guy with a strong character (what many people don't have these days).
@@UserName24249 i think it indeed is safety that hes after, and also that way nobody can use poser date to calculate how much he does on training. An maybe he just said it so late on the climb because he felt he was to close and wasnt that he couldnt ride with him but just not that close
And also maybe politness, maybe if you ask prior its okay for him
He tried to lose you at 2:50 but couldn't - super well done!
He was doing planned acceleration))
He looked around in frustration to see you were still there... I think you should give yourself the credit here - he wanted to shake you off but couldn't, hence his look back and annoyance!@@artem4ik19
Hi. Great effort!👏 I just have one question. Did Remco speed up after he signaled you to leave him? Or could you have followed him longer? An article on the internet says Remco purposely sped up after that.
He said stop, I respect his request so slowed down a lil bit to give him space
@@artem4ik19 Thank you. 👍
@@artem4ik19 i thought you were broken by the effort ! Great you are a pro !
he's doing interval trainings, he's not going to mess his training just to drop an amateur
@@francescomancetti8327 I wasn't asking you. You weren't there.
is this Roglic’s channel? lol didn’t Remco get pissed Primo was riding his wheel the whole Volta?
😁😁😁
I understand his annoyance but also it is a public road and he does not own it, if i where remoc though id probably of got mad too, its bad enough people following me up climbs and just sitting there without giving a turn and im no Remco Evenepoel 😂
Maybe he don’t want to be filmed all the time, like 99% of people… public road or not
@@joelguerin-simard3415then maybe he shouldn't train outdoors 🤔
@@misaeltejada6239 that sounds completely plausible sir....
@@misaeltejada6239 You don't realize how foolish that rmark is? He probably get followed constantly. Of course, that annoys him. Like it would almost every rider. He wasn't unpolite, just made clear he did not enjoy that.
@@misaeltejada6239 what type of logic this is,
So if you don’t want to get filmed and followed everywhere, you should stay inside?
I think sports athletes are entitled to their social bubble and privacy lol
Strong ride keep it up
I wish I could ride like you 👍🏼
Lmao dude said go away hahahahs. Training alone is the wave and the mind of a champion during those intervals… brave.
Never meet your heroes...😔
Pd:great job!
Cycling is like golf. The Pros are on an entirely different planet than the rest of us.
Sure
Remco ne force absolument pas! Je ne pense pas qu'il fasse un "intervalle"!
I hope you did a PR in this climb ! well done, I don't get the point if someone wants to try to follow his rythm, if he felt not confy, he can push more the pedal and tha'ts it :)
Remco's a chump
How did you combine gopro with Heartrate and powermeter?
Nice bro I hope your one of becoming pro. I subscribe to your channel
Why did he asked you to stop?
Bros going at 19km/h at 9% 💀🥵
Ive had a few rides with Nils Politt around Cologne. This dude is also insane 😊
En mi opinión, en una carretera pública, ¿quién eres para decirle al otro que se eche para atrás? Si tiene vatios para ir ahí, ¿a ti qué te importa, si no estás en tu casa? Y ¿no estás usando a los otros ciclistas que adelantas como balizas? Entonces, ¿por qué otro ciclista no puede aprovecharse de tu nivel para hacerse un test, si tú también te estás aprovechando de las referencias que te están dando los otros?
Te felicito! Así se habla ni más ni menos 😃
hahahah he was just salty he could not get rid off you with the sprint😂
Мені здається що Ремко почувши твое дихання, вирішив що краще поїде сам))
Que gracioso es ver cómo os pasáis la ralla blanca divisoria de carril por el forro