Cheaters Keep Ruining Everything...
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be a scenario where companies once again throw away support to stop a group of people that will continue to cheat at every single online game they play, in the process of fairness we just keep losing features in the long run. Thanks for watching!
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Why not play games on Linux through Proton exclusively?
I could use a tutorial on how to set it up. Most Proton games don't start for me.
Can confirm. A Cheater ruined my parents relationship
Well that got dark quick
What else could they do having a child like you?????
Sorry, empathy is not my strong suit
@@nicodemuslee oh come on, my comment is hidden
my parents divorced but idk why
Well time to sign up that divorce paper
Cheating the past few years has made me just stop playing multiplayer games for the most part. Ive been enjoying going back 5-10 years to good singleplayer games.
You or in general?
That's why I went to PC, as I got older multiplayer games sort of dropped off for me, I now mostly enjoy single player games and of course enjoy modding them as well.
People: you playing the new cod of warfare?
Me: trying to perfect my bayonetta skills
same here, i canceled my PS sub in april because of cheaters. lol and i loved how everyone online is an expert on my years of playing, they say stuff like, but you cant cheat on consoles, its not possible. 🤣 they dont remember, controller auto fire/rapid mods, or lag switches, or modded consoles back in the day, a simple device like the cronus now its way beyond those years to give easy access to cheaters to dominate again on consoles. ill stick to single player games on my PC for now.
I've been replaying the Arkham series having a blast. I honestly think the hacking is worse because of the matchmaking in a lot of these pvp shooters. The people doing it feel like they can't compete without it because they're put into these sweat lobbies 24/7. There was always cheating but I don't think to anywhere near this degree. Could be the access causing an increase in occurrence, but I honestly think it's because of the frustrating matchmaking systems in games now.
I hate cheaters so much, honestly, if you are so bad that you need to cheat, just don't play.
Fr or play single player games
Fr like what they get from that, their life must be so bad and empty that they think cheating to win is an "achievement"
Cheaters need the satisfaction of being good at least at one thing in life.
a good majority of cheaters do it for monetary gain, whether its boosting accounts to resell, or just outright boosting people
There is also a lot of people who cheat just to piss off people who can't deal with it. I've never seen a dude cheat and I play PC all the time. Either I'm lucky with not getting a single cheater in 700 hrs of apex legends or I'm bad at detecting cheaters, or you complain about people being better than you, or a combination of all 3.
As an older gamer I learned early on that cheating in games just ended up making the game not fun. Just sad to see so many folks never learned that lesson and/or are just trying to ruin everyone else's fun.
Ngl the Game Genie, GameShark, and Action Replays were fun back when online gaming was only a concept or a luxury
@@regis_c I disagree, you are just an early game cheater. keep that to single player.
trust me as a teamfortress 2 player they mostly do it to ruin other peoples fun. it takes some serious mental gymnastics to make yourself think that cheats make you better at a video game so instead they just use it to terrorize other players
And the people who do it are so cocky and arrogant about it. They kill the spirit of fun so they can win
I do on games that shouldnt be enjoyed. Like mw franchise. I’ll be definitely cheating on mw3 and ruining it for everyone’s experience until they wake up and stop being brain dead consumers. Sorry not sorry!
"Understanding requires injury."
Now you know TF2's pain.
also understanding why a video is titled "cheaters" but it is some whining dude about e waste is pain also....clickbaiting is bad, and the sound of his voice becomes annoying. please tell me what min the cheaters start on and i bet its that dumb keyboard on console. i really think this guy is lame crying about keyboards, i could care less but the TITLE says different.
@@ginxxxxx Muta doesn't not do clickbait
@@pootispiker2866 you are right, he is cool, i was just hoping to learn why cheaters hurt gaming but this topic (and youtuber) is just not the information i am searching for.
@@ginxxxxx Is it not obvious why they ruin gaming 😂?
@@ferrerorocheryes lt is closed minded to hate normal keyboads on consoles as one can create a hardware controller that cheats (no software code required) ... this channel knows about as much as a plug and play keyboard when it comes to the current and future computer system
Imagine waking up and feeling the need to cheat at a video game.
Literally me every day. I wake up sit down at my pc inject my prefered cheat and play some cs2.
@@fishmarketer I actually just don't play those games unfortunately. The only place I play those games are at a friend house in a private lobby where everyone play on the same console.
Imagine waking up and caring about things that don't matter
I think cheating is acceptable
in NON-MMO games. I use
cheats in farming games, etc.
@@iHCSxthat's why I play single player games and dead multi-player games
The sad part is this won’t even combat 3rd party devices due to how they register to the console. They are coded to be recognized has official devices on the xbox.
Of course they are. Why am I even surprised
good point
Muta never fails to be randomly selected for search by the TSA
yeah. hes "randomly" selected.
Lol well with a mug shot like the thumbnail….
Licensed
The actual rare funny comment
@@Isaiah42069nah dog cmon 💀
Most crossplay titles DO NOT use input-based crossplay. I wish more of them did.
Oh no, what do they use?
@@samuelmmmk181 Most just cram everyone in the same lobby and hope that console aim-assist and mouse-aim even out to the same amount of advantage.
@@WolfDeity 😨
I was banned on CoD because I wanted to play the game on an Asus Ally and got banned because the software built into the system was flagged by CoD’s anticheat as 3rd party software. I lost a few hundred dollars and multiple limited time unlocks and Activision essentially told me “sorry the anticheat said so.” Even though they know the Ally causes it
oooof
I was legit thinking about booting up cod on my ally this morning, thanks for the warning
the latest AMD issue is somewhat similar, it ban people when they play games and AMD blame the gaming devs.. while the gaming devs know that AMD use code that is a cheat feature.
Everyone blame each other for the fail and no one step forward and take the responsibility,
Hey what’s up didn’t know you watched muta
Maybe if you wasnt using a cronus that wouldnt have happened
I had a buddy I met when I played Warzone 1 on Xbox with and he was like god tier level good. Always respected him because of his skills but found about a year ago he was using Cronus for his controller. I lost all respect for that guy because that is technically cheating. The crazy part is that he defended himself saying that using Cronus isn't cheating because the game allows it and a lot of people use it. It's wild to me that these people think it's not cheating while we're here working on classes and trying to help our recoil control honestly. I'm glad Microsoft is doing this because I believe it is cheating.
Stuff like that has basically been a part of CoD "culture" for well over a decade unfortunately. When I used to play CoD4 (I'm old) a fairly common thing people would do is pay to have someone mod their controller's right trigger to register a hold as a repeating input. So "auto-fire" basically. That way they could use weapons like the G3 or M14, which were higher powered semi-auto rifles, and fire them full-auto like an M4 on steroids.
Same thing worked in CoD World at War with the Gewehr 43 (German semi-auto rifle). That rifle killed with two body shots and had a 10 round magazine, so when people used it with an auto-fire mod it was pretty OP.
I made my own "xim/cronus" 10 years ago using a $5 bluetooth dongle, all just to avoid paying $60 on a new PS3 controller.
Never even thought of it as cheating back then, but that was back when fps gamers weren't cocaine addicted spastics and esports was a bunch of Cod players talk shit to each other in a small room.
They will bypass that real quick 😂
Honest question: maybe I'm being obtuse, but why is it considered cheating to move to keyboard and mouse, when for any other game genre, moving to a better input method is perfectly acceptable to get better results? I mean, no one complains that game pad users are cheating by getting a fighting stick against other game pad users, and no one complains when game pad users get a steering wheel to do better at driving games. So I'm not sure why moving to a keyboard and mouse is any different. They should just disable aim assist and just let people use whatever input method they want?
@@chan0110because xim registers as a controller and gives aim assist on keyboard. Normally if you switch to keyboard it doesn’t give aim assist anymore as it expects your aim to be better but xim bypasses this.
8:38 “You can’t just blatantly allow cheaters on the platform.”
Activision: I’mma pretend I didn’t hear that.
Respawn: custom cfgs and macros are ok, and we embrace that.
Valve has a Macro creator built in, in every source game@@ZGtx
COD supports keyboard and mouse natively on console. Difference is, when you play with native KBM, you get no aim assist. With XIM, you still get full AA. So when they advertise this for COD, there's no "input preference" argument it's just plain cheating.
The thing is tho. This is only on cods from modern warfare 2019 onwards. Everything older had no KB&M support to begin with. On those games especially people love using these devices and legit break the game for everyone playing normally.
The aim assist is so obscenely overpowered that I don't blame them. Controllers have literally every advantage in the book over KBM in that game, this is the only way it's a viable input method.
@@LAST_STAND_FANcope
@@parkerneilson6255 Controlla burgers will do anything to deflect from the fact that their game literally aims for them.
@@LAST_STAND_FAN Yep, as someone using a XIM on MW2 which also has skill based aim assist I do not get any snap on aim assist behaviors being an above average player its just a light aim slow down effect near targets. Meanwhile spectating some controller players and seeing their killcams it looks like a PC snap on aimbot. If aim assist wasn't so broken why then are the vast majority of pros and streamers all using a controller? Many also on top of that use cheats too because even the bullshit aim assist wont save them.
The worst part about kernel anticheat is that even with all the drawbacks it has, _it doesn't even fucking work to stop cheaters at the end of the day._ So not only am I being forced to download kernel level spyware that does nothing except BE kernel level spyware if I want to play my games, but I'm getting locked away from gaming on my better, snappier, more feature rich and customizable linux partition for NO REASON. If the anticheat actually worked I'd be like "man that sucks but I understand" but cheaters just bypass it anyway and the only people who suffer from this are legit users who don't want to cheat to begin with. I'm glad there's so many single player games to keep me occupied these days, and that the multiplayer games I do care about work on linux.
Yea, that's one reason that more invasive anticheats are just not worth it for players or devs. At the end of the day, someone that is set on cheating will cheat. They will find a way around the anticheat and pretend it doesn't exist. Sure, it may slow them down, but once one person figures it out, it'll get distributed and then the floodgates open. At that point, the game may as well not have anticheat
Kernel Based ACs are more of a financial block than anything. If you search for cheats that bypass kernel anticheats you will notice that they are more expensive than normal ones.
I still agree though. I wish some group would emerge and do a pseudo-sting operation like distributing cheats with custom drivers that make your PC shortcircuit. That would be funny.
@@F.M671 There's a guy that's made a few videos of troll CS:GO cheats that troll the user in various ways. ScriptKid. I'd link, but youtube's a bit iffy with links in comments
You get caught much faster with kernel level. We should use anything possible to destroy the plague of cheaters. Telling devs not to is just pants on head silly.
@@JordanHarris Until devs can figure out a way to actually permanently ban cheaters (HW bans and IP bans do not work, you can always change or spoof these) then catching cheaters is not quite good enough. They will just make a new account and continue cheating. In any event though, I didn't really mean don't use any anticheat, I meant don't keep making anticheats more and more invasive to catch cheaters a little faster. Prevent what you can, continue issuing bans to the rest. Total prevention is impossible, and it's fruitless to chase it
"Cheaters ruin everything"
Bro must've played 1 full minute of CS2
I don't know who I hate more, the cheaters or the companies who sell them these devices.
Both
The company isn't forcing these people to play competitive online games with their products.
If people want to cheat in a single player game, that's their business.
@@khatdubell they’re not forcing you to, but they are essentially going, “ hey, do you suck at Fortnite do people on call of duty Just kick your ass? Buy our product” it’s like Muda said there are no single player games being advertised. It’s all popular multiplayer games. Their target audience is literally people looking to cheat and supplying those people with the ability to do so.
the companies for sure, those who use cheats do absolutely nothing, they have no input besides paying money to make a game play itself basically, they're husks
The one W ill give to China is that they actually go after cheat developers and take it seriously.
This is the other shoe dropping in the "owning your games" argument. Sure, with consoles and physical media, you get to own the game that's physically on the disk and feel a sense of ownership, but the reality is that you have no such ownership over the console itself. They can remotely send a command to brick your console and render it completely inoperable for violating their terms of service. They can choose exactly what software is allowed to run on "your" console, and exactly what devices are supported on it. Doesn't sound like ownership to me.
Then you can sell your games at least 😂😂😂
That's because you don't own a console. You own a limited license to use it that can be revoked at any time.
@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson same for most modern OS. Besides Linux.
At the very least, you are putting your trust in *one* company not to dick you over, rather than every single dev
No console manufacturer would ever do that as bricking a console would open them up to a class action lawsuit. However, they can (and have already done with piraters) a console ban so that it can never be connected online again. I wish they would adopt this policy for cheaters.
Cheating in video games is the most loserish thing you can do
Agreed, like how empty is your life really if you cheat....
Cheating in basically a game that is for fun its the saddest loser you can find.
cheating is only okay under EXTREMELY specific circumstances
Right,.. you lose at your job, family, life… so you have to resort to cheating to be a winner… in (usually) a meaningless game. Sad.
@@Ghs6like that one video where a dude flies up to a fighter jet after saying "im gonna go give him a piece of my mind"
One more company moves proving Louis Rossmann's point that "You don't own your purchased items"
"you will own nothing and be happy" You dont even own your own console, you only borrow it and the manufacturer have full control over it.
The apple scandal when they uninstalled "unwanted" apps on peoples phones with a flash update is only one example of the "you will own nothing and be happy".. Many did get issues when their data wasnt backed up and such.. the bricking of the Iphone4 is another example.. no way around it. If you refuse to do it it will restore and brick the phone at the next boot/reboot and you have no say in it
I play Rust Console and this is going to help so much. On official servers there is already no aim assist and the weapon recoil is very hard to learn. Using a zen people can use keyboard and mouse and have no recoil on every weapon and it gets really frustrating trying to play the game.
These thumbnails are the gift that keeps on giving
Right he has cracked the code I can't help but click
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Yeah for redditors
I think he's not happy
He learned it from the best, aka Charlie
Wait, so you can buy a PS5 with a disc drive OR you buy a PS5 without a disc drive and then buy a disc drive? What a time to be alive!
It's like they are selling DLC. lmfao.
Yup, and the crazy part is that the original model (the one with more components) is still cheaper after all that trouble lol
Well, as STUPID AS IT SOUNDS, I’m pretty sure that there’s an incredibly REASONABLE EXPLANATION for it.
Eventually, once stock of the EXISTING disc-drive PS5s dwindles ENOUGH, they’ll PROBABLY discontinue that SKU altogether and just go with the ONE (with the option to add a disc drive later if you want), thereby STREAMLINING manufacturing/production since they now only have to make a SINGLE PRODUCTION MODEL for retail.
I could never levy enough shame towards XIM/Cronus users. Play the game legit or get out (same goes for any cheaters on PC).
A lot of people cheat just to piss people like you off though.
This even sucks for ppl who still play older RB/GH games on xbox using third party controllers that can't afford a gaming pc for Clone Hero.
I will say this, using mouse+KB is useless on console because auto aim for controllers is bordering on cheat mode.
However, back in the late 90s it was always my dream to play in a lobby full of controller players while I had mouse+keyboard.
I actually realized that goal using the eagle eye adapter while playing Far Cry 2 multiplayer on the PS3, it was glorious, I utterly rhizzaped every lobby because there was no auto aim or it was so flimsy that it didn't matter.
I don't consider that cheating, it's me playing the game, not auto aim, and I'm doing memetic justice showing the superiority of mouse+keyboard controls.
About 4-5 years after I started playing CSGO I used a website plugin to check my match history, in approx 60% of my games there was at least 1 player banned in every competitive match (10 players) and many of those matches had 2-3 people banned. and this is with CSGO's anti cheat being notoriously bad at detecting cheaters.
One match in particular I looked at was a game with all 9 other players being blatent cheaters, like turning their cheats up to 100% just to out cheat the enemy team blatent. Only 6 of those players are banned till this day.
When CS2 released about a month ago I've played about a hundred matches of premier and competitive and it feels like a solid 2-4 players per match are 'legit cheating' which is where they just use things like walls, esp, chams, and a really low FOV smooth aimbot. When I've played several thousand hours it just becomes pretty obvious to me when someone is just 'too aware' with terrible movement and game mechanics but seem to always be aiming exactly where you are peaking from and are never caught off guard without fail the entire game, they will also sit behind a wall waiting for half a minute until the second you pull out a Nade or turn away, once or twice is a coincidence but when its over 10 times per match... yeah nah.
Ive played against top 100 players, and even pro players on a few occasions and yet while the good players play methodically and actually clear angles, its incredibly frustrating when almost every game there are multiple players on the enemy team playing like bots but have better gamesense then people with 10-20x their hours played.
As a console cheater S H A M E M E H A R D E R D A D D Y
You know it's gonna be a good video when Muta gives you the Indian store owner "Would you mind showing me what's in your pocket" look in the thumbnail.
This is why i don't play multiplayer anymore which is really sad, i would love to see more support for my buddies on Linux, playing on Linux was a life changer for me, a lot of games runs perfect even the older games that it is a mess to deal under Windows, Linux can do so much better and smooth, this was the best year for singleplayer games.
we need native linux games more, emulation isnt ideal.
FGC Thanks you for shouting out our struggle Muta! Was going to get a series S this black Friday but I can't justify spending $250 on buying and customizing a new fight stick
Back in the Xbox 360 days I bought a memory card which could take Micro SD cards to expand my storage. Less then a week later it was banned in an update due to hackers using it for their cheat programs.
I remember when I had to change the format of my 128 gb micro sd card because the consoles back then would only accept up to like 64 gb, my mom didn't let me play games like cod back then so I didn't get banned from anything but If I had gotten banned I wouldve been pissed lmao
On the topic of anti cheats, I'm starting a project called Anti-Cheat Manager which will mainly be used to uninstall an anti-cheat, move the files to a virtual drive (may have option for whole game if needed especially for FH5 as an example) and then disable the virtual drive as well so that if you are modding a non-anti-cheat game, you should be safe.
I expected this video to be about the new beta for "The Finals" , like exclusively, I haven't seen an infestation of cheaters develop this fast in a game ever, it's insane.
Played 3 matches on there got beamed across the map with a pistol screw all of that
Theyre running tests with linux users atleast
holy shit like fuck man that game was so hot on day 1 then god damn the easy anti cheat made it die
linux test for anti cheat is occuring@@thecoolestofthe834s2
Valve has been a godsend for the Linux gaming community seriously-and in addition any Unix based platform. I was a primarily OpenBSD user and have been able to very easily adapt a lot of the open source Linux-based tools that valve helped work on / create to my own environment. Any user that loves gaming and security should be rejoicing over first of all the WinE devs, then the open source devs, then the valve & proton devs and lastly the Linux community. Because of all you people we don’t have to compromise with windows partitions anymore 🙏🏻.
That being said, if a game has Denuvo anticheat? Arggggh
You game on openbsd? Hmm i would like to use some bsd in the future. I currently use fedora linux with a windows vm looking glass setup. I don't know how far pci passthrough and kvm/qemu on bsd is. Interesting though.
_"if a game has Denuvo anticheat? Arggggh"_
Denuvo isn't anti-cheat. It's a DRM and anti-tamper tool for the executable: makes it very hard for pirates to bypass the license checks for the games. Once the game is running, it does exactly 0 against reverse-engineers that wanna debug, reverse and then write an exploit for the game.
That capital E made wonder a few seconds wtf is WinE.
@@KulaGGinDepending on denuvo version it can stop the game from running in a VM or wine. Tbh it should just be removed,it's got massive performance issues and being unable to play denuvo games offline makes it even worse then the old CD drms.
Just pirate windows and play games on software that works m8
Cheaters ruined my shot at early esports. I never expected it to become what it has after I quit in the early 2000's. The experience convinced me gaming online was a ridiculous experience I could never take seriously again. So I took this job in electrical and found cheaters trying to get licenses that could put lives at risk. Did those instructors ever do their best to try and expose them. I remember some cheaters during exams admitting it and saying studying was the real waste of time as they walked out accusing anyone who studied of the Darwin awards... Do you want the job or just a title with no responsibilities the instructor asked as they walked out laughing.
This comment is a huge lie
My man you were never gonna make it in esports.
@@AssClown-wi6og Which comment? Mine or yours? lmao... I wish I were wrong about it. I've always respected the scientific method of prove me wrong. It takes the kind of effort that makes a cheater nervous. The point is just make sure you verify in high voltage work before you trust some engineer from the cities word on a lock out tag out. Workers that nearly died really wondered how that city engineer even got hired. That was my experience I earned the right to speak about.
@crazyeyesgaming What game were you trying to Esport?
@@GazerPlur420if it was the early 2000’s probably Quake
You can find xin at major retailers now. GameStop, Walmart, Target, etc etc. It’s pretty heartbreaking to see the public just accept cheating as a retail product.
It's not a cheating device just because Mutahar said so.
@@flintfrommother3gamingjudging by this comment you definitely have an xim😂😂😂😂
Facts you can find a strike pack at Walmart for like 30 bucks shits sad nobody has any skill anymore
@@flintfrommother3gaming it is quite literally a cheating device, they are coded to trick the software of consoles into thinking they are a native device, then they are coded into games to make the games think you are using a controller. not to mention some like the chronus even have scripts, you know, literal cheats...
@@flintfrommother3gamingI dont understand why you would cheat in a game. Its a game! Youre supposed to play it lol. They dont even really play, its as dumb as going out to get fresh air only to smoke.
Goes deeper than just the XIM. You can use the XIM in combination with Cronus devices and get the KBM spoofer + recoil scripting for pretty much any popular game. That means people are using MnK on console, getting controller aim assist, and also having recoil reduction from the Cronus devices. Its really bad.
Yup, can confirm. And it's not just one or two. It's at least one or two in every FPS game, sometimes more. And nothing is done, nobody gets their console banned for it. Because once you've paid... nobody cares. Or leastways nobody actually in a position to do anything about it.
Cheating in video games is a full blown business nowadays. It’s why most games will struggle; it’s a constant fight between devs and cheat making companies. It’s why it’s not worth getting sweaty in the majority of multiplayer games because chances are that you’re getting beat by someone who cheats.
Cheaters will do everything for 1/10th of the attention we get 😂
Grow up that is obviously bad to cheat 😒
Who is we
@@AnAnimatorsWorld Us, the non cheaters, the ones playing fair
@@Smartoes I feel that brother. If you get to the top 10 in ANY high level game of Fortnite the last people are 4 bots, Me playing on ps4, and 5 cheaters scripting and using blatant wall hacks because they can find you no matter where you hide while crouching and then they attempt to 2 shot you with the stake shotgun.
Fortnite is a prime example where the cheaters took the fuck over, they have a custom game that is just training on how to use wall hacks, it consistently has 2k players in it.
Sad af.
you arent facing wallhacking cheaters on console, simply not possible unless you are playing with crossplay@@FunSkipping
I personally have a lot of grudges with anti-cheats like Easy. Not because I have a cronus or an XIM (I hate those things with a passion), but because Anti-cheat falsely banned me from a Fortnite tournament because it thought I was hacking when in reality my internet was having a stroke.
I always record my internet so when companies get frisky and think I'm cheating I just send them the information and explain to them that my internet is drunk and it's having a stroke at the moment
Sure it was buddy. I play on ps4 and I can tell you every single person I've seen playing on PC is cheating and half the console players are cheating. At least if they are diamond 1 or above in ranked, I have been fighting 1000 copies of homelander that act like terminators in Solo, they come running right at you because they have wall hacks and everything.
No way to hide from them even while crouched and you could be in a random tree and they will find you and 6 tap your head with the twin mag rifle.
Also Twin Mag is a dead giveaway, it kicks like a bitch if you use a controller without mods or cheats.
@@FunSkipping "Also Twin Mag is a dead giveaway, it kicks like a bitch if you use a controller without mods or cheats." thanks i'll use that to help stay uncaught
@@AsherTheModder Go ahead, also keep your accuracy down when they fly, normal people don't hit someone that is flying and then implusing and then grinding on a rail, if you're still shooting them and hitting, they are most likely gonna report you. I know I do, everytime. I also spectate to watch people get banned live. It's my favorite sport.
I have reported 1663 unique names this year.
It's always funny to think how much they've lost in terms of money on those skins and accounts.
@@AsherTheModder
I agree that XIM should be banned, but at the same time, I don't think that buying a PC is a solution (I am a PC gamer). Devs should just make M&KB finally possible for consoles, especially if there is a PC version.
The only issue I really have with this is the cost for companies to get the certification to make peripherals creating a walled garden. I think simply certifying that the device doesn't allow for cheating like this is all the input they should have
I have to throw in that I know people who Can't afford a PC who play console and have problems with their hands and can't use a Controller and use Mouse and keyboard to play games.. so saying "Just buy a PC" is the same level of BullSht that Blizzard threw out about "well don't you have phones" ...
I like the idea of cops showing up to your house for cheating
"BUT BUT MAH FREEDOM"
right take cops from stopping a shooting to give a stern talking to the cheater for ruining the fun.. yikes
i like moded games
Imagine being such an anti-social degen you want people arrested for cheating in a video game. Go to a new lobby.
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанцаyeah that would never work in the us.
I pretty much avoid multiplayer games for the most part now. Just not worth the headache, not just cause of cheating, but because everyone acts like a child.
I don't consider kbm on console a cheat. It's the same as wearing headphones to hear better. Come back when there's actual cheats that change the game data to gain advantages.
Now a Turbo Controller or macros, that starts getting into a darker grey area.
I completely agree especially in new Call Of Dutys people use aim bot and wall hacks like it was no tomorrow and they complain when we use kill streaks and or spawn camp
I will never understand why publishers, devs and people think that cross play in first person shooters were ever a good idea.
Ruined MCC on PC for me
As a console gamer, non-cheater, and console gamer only, this video still managed to go over my head the entire time. 😂
I dont understand why you would cheat in a game. Its a game! Youre supposed to play it lol. They dont even really play, its as dumb as going out to get fresh air only to smoke.
So your not technically minded?
@@an8nymous791there are cases where cheating makes money, specifically RMT (Real Money Trading). Basically games like Tarkov, people can make more than their countries minimum wage by "boosting" players.
They eventually get banned, but by then they've made so much money that they just buy a new copy of the game and continue making money sadly
You're looking really good Muta, I've been watching you for years and I've never seen you look as healthy and happy as you are now. Good on you man, keep up the good work!
I feel like even if they werent used for cheating, this would have happened anyway. Its an excuse to stop you from using devices that they didn’t approve and Can make money from.
The cheating is just a convenient excuse.
Hey, its a win-win.
There is no harm in using cheats in single-player games, however, in multiplayer, cheaters and hackers in games like Battlefield, fortnite, etc are the bane of existence of those who work really hard to unlock stuff only to get screwed up by those who lack skills and experience in the game.
Its crazy how much of a double-edged knife this anti-hacker patch is. Its so double edged, its a double edged butterfly knife with a Karambit at the bottom of the grip
It's a butterfly with a nuke.
@@QuackersMcCrackersany type of grenade knife sounds pretty unwieldy
This completely fucks over the fighting game community on xbox. Nobody's going to take fighters seriously on the platform after this
Its only one edged. XIM requires the use of an official controller and that's only what the console sees.
i absolutely hate cheaters
Same
Fortnite is having it the worst, the end games are always dogshit where I have to compete with 5 homelanders that behave like the terminator and use wall hacks to see you even if you hide. Hiding just emboldens these cheaters to attack even though it exposes that they are cheating. I have dozens of hours of people seeing me through walls while crouched.
Love you too sweat 😘
@@AsherTheModder The funniest part is that last year I would drop 20 kill games solo no problem and now I still get like 13 or 7 minimum and kill 4 cheaters a game.
Cheaters define skill issue. They have no skill, I have no issue.
@@AsherTheModderwe can tell this is just bait comment. are you really lacking that much attention in your life😂
Cheaters are indeed the worst. I just stick to single player and co-op games these days. Also I didn't realise Linux gaming is so well supported (with a few exceptions), very cool.
So by your argument a player with a 4090 is cheating because their frame rate gives them an advantage.
2023 there is no reason why the consoles don’t have native M & K support
I'm glad a channel as big as yours is speaking out about Linux and how good the gaming experience is. We have worked so hard to attain legitimacy (some of us like myself have literally been on the development end of these things) in the gaming space, and we get so much hostility for it. What's worse is that MS people will get salty about you wanting to play a game on Linux for some unknown reason, just because you don't want to use a pozzed operating system to play a title.
Publishers: All you have to do, LITERALLY, is NOT GET IN OUR WAY. We already do most of your job. Just leave us be and *work with us*. We're nicer than you think.
It would be funny if instead of warning or banning cheaters that use keyboard and mouse, they quietly activate an anti-aim assistant that mess up their aiming missing their shots all the time.
well supposedly thats what COD's anti cheat software claims to do, or at least i read it somewhere on their official Ricochet page. apparently when it detects a cheater it will make their shots deal no damage so the non cheater can wipe them properly. whether or not this is working efficiently i have no way of really knowing but i wouldn't be surprised if the crafty hackers already found a workaround.
Every time i see a thumbnail of Muta he looks more insane and just done with humanity 😂. Like a parent looking at the mess their kids made.
This needs to be opt in. Let the FPS devs opt in. Don't make everyone else suffer for it.
Imma keep it a buck fifty. For MS if they want to drop these games into gamepass. They have to do this. I still play infinite warfare on my series x and people will not want to play that rn without this change into effect. Its really bad right now with the cheater problem.
@@1EnZBosS1 Infinite Warfare, literally any Black Ops, fuck it, any Call of Duty really, always got these cheater problems. I remember popping into a lobby to play some MP, and this dude was cheating hella hard, me and my teammates called him out for it and he started peddling his OWN cheating software to us.
You know, once in a while, I'll go ahead and download a free cheat engine, download a ban script, and ban cheaters. that shit's aggressively infuriating honest to god.
@@RedKnightOfficialnot all heros wear capes ❤️❤️
@@1EnZBosS1Again, no reason to not make it opt in. Let CoD, Apex, etc opt in. Let the rest of us use whatever controllers we want.
As large as FPS gaming is, I highly doubt there's more FPS cheater device users than people using converters and other 3rd party devices to play non-FPS games.
If I've said it once, I've said it a quintillion times: third party accessories need a degree of legal protection, including making it illegal for console manufacturers to block them.
Honestly telling someone to buy a pc who wants to use a keyboard and mouse is kind of a hot take. Not everyone can afford it. Cheaters are the worst we can all agree. But its low key telling people who are poor they should get good levels of arrogance.
Well use a controller then and get good. Kbm is inarguably better than controller for multiplayer games and gives you an advantage against other console players who spend less money.
Just buy a pc if you want to use a keyboard and mouse, if you find that a hot take, you dont want a keyboard and mouse, you want to WIN.
He covered this, and you ignored it. Its not a hot take, you just got heated because you're bad, not because you're poor.
@@plutonicattic7995 he said get good or buy a pc. and i'm not good and i can't afford a nice pc. you're missing the point.
Competitive multiplayer crossplay was a huge mistake.
Cheating wasnt this bad 10-15 years ago.
Crossplay starts happening then all of a sudden theres cheating software out the wazoo.
At least singleplayer and co op games exist
Xim has been the biggest issue for r6, and xim have found a workaround for mouse traps, so it's up to the actual company's to do something
Maybe the should just have a system that in game that just tags abnormal players and puts them in lobbies with other cheaters. (I’m sure some already do this but they probably still have invasive anti cheat.)
I used to play FPS games back in the day COD/MOH, BF, UT etc... but when we got to many cheaters, I simply stopped play MP games.
So sick of these companies thinking they still own the console/games after they're sold, If I wanna make a million copies of ANY game I can and it's completely legal so long as I don't sell or distribute those copies and as for the hardware side of things on console... they shouldn't have ANY RIGHT to restrict your ability to use your console regardless of what you have plugged into it PERIOD. The only thing they have any right to restrict access to is PSN and LIVE services but they decided to stretch there control so vastly across there consoles the customer no longer owns it and is being pressed for there rights to even use the product all in an attempt to set a president and make a new norm for what they can and can't do with YOUR property!
Nothing makes me happier than Mutahar uploading a new video.
Muta, you're the reason I got into Linux. I'm about to switch my main gaming rig from dual booting ubuntu and windows to 100% ubuntu. I've also been using ubuntu on my work laptop every day for about a year now. I've learned a lot so far and I'm excited to dive in 100%. Thank you for all the tutorials you've made and congratulations on your marriage!
Windows 10 itself isn't bad
Microsoft ruined it
You got me into Linux gaming and using Linux! The benefits outweigh is the cons
Incredibly well-put point. In an effort to eliminate E-waste, we’re actually creating like 100x more. In 20 years from now, all those digital PS5’s and disc drives will be worthless because you wouldn’t be able to pair the disc drive with the console if the server doesn’t work, and trust me that server will NOT be there in 20 years.
There needs to be real world consequences for cheating. Many people say it’s just a game but there is actual financial damage related to cheating, I.e. publishers need to invest in anticheat, players lose good game experience.
An example of a punishment should be if caught cheating is you pay a base fine that goes to company, and then an additional fine for each player you affected.
every muta thumbnail progressively gets more gruff and mean over the years
This is going to suck for the disabled. Some people missing a hand/arm use things like the XIM and CronusMax so they can use specialized controllers like foot paddles, motion controls, etc. Now, unless it's something specially made for the Xbox and approved my Microsoft, they're shit out of luck and can't even play their console without buying all new equipment, which they may not be able to afford.
It's also going to suck those like myself who uses a CronusMax to play local multiplayer-only games online with friends via Parsec and a capture card. (You can direct virtual controller inputs on a PC into the CronusMax, which is seen on the Xbox as a controller.)
There's legitimate uses for these devices. I think a full ban of them at the console level is going too far. I think it should be done at the game level, blocked in multiplayer games, but leave it alone for local play.
Through the thumbnails we can see Mutahar's gradual descent into insanity
I am a software support expert for MANY clients. They ask why they cannot use Linux. I told them its because Windows is meant for one thing and one thing only: Its to streamline a for baby system as to treat you as if you were a toddler in its most secured environment and it will force you to adapt to their features and bloat whether you like it or not.
It’s fucking insane that this happened immediately after Jynxi just beat a team of Champ zim users on R6
Cheaters is why i stopped playing fps games and basically only play strategy games now.
People cheat more in strategy games, it's called scripting.
They know all the ways the game could and is going to end.
@@FunSkipping idk what strategy games you're talking about but I don't see how scripting would help someone cheat in a strategy game. Unless you're talking about MOBAs or something similar.
@@PossibleTango Chess is scripted a lot. There are a lot of strategy games that can be scripted. You can make a script to play just about anything.
Why are we acting like the solution isn't Microsoft allowing mouse and keyboard support?
Because these people aren’t looking for proper support they are looking for an advantage
@@asonofliberty3662I want proper support.
@@asonofliberty3662guess that went over your head
I’m curious as to muta’s opinion on gyro aim; it’s mouse aim for controllers. Not a lot of games support it and it’s restricted to PS and Nintendo consoles/controllers (not Xbox, physically)
I think he likes it but it ends up being mostly moot because very few games support it. I love gyro controls for aiming though
The xim actually does allow you to map the gyroscope on the Switch Pro and DS4/DualSense to the right stick. It’s a little fucked and you’ll have to change some settings in basically every game, but yeah. Sad that doesn’t work anymore, I don’t even play multiplayer games; I just enjoyed it for single player
I have to call it . The cheaters on console and specifically “crossplay” multiplayer is getting out of hand . Even party games are riddled with these losers
We have gone full circle, I’ve been gaming long enough to remember a time when people purchased ZIM like devices to use mouse and keyboard on console for games, and now it’s flipped.
I'd say cheaters using mods ruined modern racing games, "forcing" game studios to make most major new racing games online-only even for those of us only interested in single-player mode, but I think game studios were going to force racing games to be online-only anyway since it's the sort of game ideal for microtransactions for cars, upgrades, and liveries, and cheaters just provided them a convenient excuse.
Yeah. Also the fact that the single player component of these types of games often require an online connection now. Not just the multiplayer. That's pretty strong evidence that it has little to do with cheating imo.
Like how hard would it be to make a racing game that has a single player campaign that can be played offline, with progression separate from the multiplayer to make cheating irrelevant? Probably not very hard, considering it's what companies did for 20 years lol.
@@yewtewbstew547 Having separate online progress in a racing game always felt pretty silly to me TBH. The few racers I played online back in the day just sorted it by class, so it didn't matter if you cheated the single player to get the best cars in the game, online you'd be racing players with vehicles of similar performance.
I wish they would just make officially branded Keyboards and Mice for consoles whose players want to use them. Sadly, the only way to do so is by a 3rd party system predominantly used for cheating. Glad I built my PC
How much it cost
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанцаyour moms average rate
Glad you built your PC? Imagine paying thousands of dollars to lose against PC cheaters. I'll take XIM and Cronus console users all day over the crazy sh1t PC hackers can pull off like track you perfectly through wall with X-ray vision.
Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt minecraft support keyboard and mouse on xbox?
@@timbo303official9A lot of games support M&KB on Xbox. I don't know what op is talking about.
My biggest issue is this opens up for them to start blocking any device in the name of “safety/experience”. 3rd party controllers? Not official, could be a cheat device. I don’t want cheaters, but I’d rather cheaters than not be able to use the products I own how I want
Yeah... gotta put your foot down at some point my dude.
@@itouchbuttons to which one?
4:44 - perfectly summarized Infinite Warfare. Thanks, Muta!
Cheating in singleplayer games is no problem but cheating in online games is a big problem.
I built my own linux distro for my wife and taught her how to use it. She loves everything about linux + windows vm. Good job to Valve for expediting linux gaming to the casual mindfront, its really boosted the value of my own OS.
Yeah, cheating in multiplayer games is what caused me to return to mostly singleplayer games, with my latest adventure in BG3 and having a grand ol' time. Every now and again I'll do some PvE stuff like DRG, Warframe, and Monster Hunter with my friends. I just can't really deal with that crap. The worst of it is definitely in FPS games, but that's still a huge portion of the competitive gaming market. I just chose the path of least resistance.
This is why controllers need motion controls. Even cross play fighting as pc, console players are annoying solely due to the strong aim assists. Id rather both platforms physically be more on par with one another than one be given a huge handicap.
Yeah some games definitely be that way. With Halo MCC on PC I always play crossplay in non input-based matchmaking with a controller myself, and I swear keyboard and mouse users are outnumbered by controller players 100 to 1, the aim assist is just that strong.
tbh I don't mind it exactly, the controller aim assist is completely consistent with how those Halo games always played on console. But it does basically render keyboard and mouse a disadvantage. I'm sure some people can play very well with keyboard and mouse, and maybe the skill ceiling is higher too. But the "skill floor" to actually become good with keyboard and mouse is much higher than with a controller, so most people just play controller.
I turn my aim assist off because in high level play in Fortnite it really throws you off when you gotta aim on someone and they fly away really quick.
It also doesn't help when out of the top 10 people every game I play it's Me, 4 bots, and 5 bots that people are controlling with wall hacks. (90% on pc)
Tbf the game gives you way too much info with the visualize audio feature. I had the exact opposite problem. Where I would just get nuked from orbit by a console player for simply being close. Like its easy to tell whos on console when they miss alot at range then go full John Wick the moment you enter a certian range which sucks because thats usually how i play shooters lol.
PS controllers have had it since the PS3, and the switch pro has it too. It sounds like according to the leaks that the Brooklin Xbox controller will have it too. The issue is incompetent devs refuse to add gyro support for shooters, requiring workarounds like this device to get gyro working on console; and even then it just maps the gyroscope to the right stick so it isn’t perfect
@@wowmyguy6777 Anyone can use visualize audio what kind of copium is that.
I can't wait for the next cod. Everyone doing 360 kick flip trick shots claiming they're legit by their audience. I can't wait
I was surprised you mentioned the FGC. There are so many controllers that just won't work now. Tough luck if you're using a self built controller.
I've been a KB/M player for most my life but as cheating in PC games have continued to ramp up going to consoles where memory injected cheats are nigh impossible except on end of life machines, XIM has allowed me to continue using my preferred peripherals there. Controller usage also cramps my hand after extended use so not being forced into one helps. I don't use recoil scripts and do not condone the use of them as that's already over the grey line. Frankly there are plenty of controller users who cheat with modded controllers and scripting devices like cronus. If you are making 100% of the inputs a game is receiving I don't care what input source someone is using. I would be in favor of consoles natively supporting KB/M but then it becomes a question of how to balance the aim assist for people that choose controllers.
I never understood why controlers as an input method are used at all when they are so bad that they need aim assist to make it viable to play a shooter.
i've played The Finals (even got into the first couple closed betas) and it's damn good. One of the very few PvP games i've genuinely enjoyed.
hope you're able to play it soon, cuz imo it's the best PvP game around (but as i said, i haven't played many). The destructible terrain is awesome.
Too bad it's infested with hackers already. Can't believe I'm saying this but it's a dead game if they do the official launch after this beta ends, and they don't HEAVILY drop the hammer on cheaters, I'm talking phone number verification, IMEI-based smartphone app verification, kernel level anti-cheat, ping ban (since 99% of cheaters are chinese that will stop most cheating on EU/US by itself)
Anti-Cheat is a necessary evil unfortunately. Considering I'm old enough to remember the problems with Socom II and Phantasy Star Online, unmitigated cheating can decimate an online community. People want to complain about anti-cheat software and how invasive it is, but you can't release a DRM and anti-cheat free multiplayer game without protections against the hacking community.
Just be thankful devices like the Gameshark, Xploder, and Codebreakers aren't possible on modern day systems.
A physical disc launch at the end of development support cycle. No DRMs, private server set-up, LAN, DLCs, add-ons, licensed mods.
At this point im thinking how long are we going to fight these cheaters, how long is it gonna take until game devs just gonna give and say eh just cheat who cares. Because this is a never ending battle.
the next evolution of anti cheat is already late in development. Its not what we want, but its effective, and its.....AI sadly. Basically AI will fun a full scan of your screen when playing the game, scan your inputs, reflexes, etc and determine if its legit or not. Anti cheat like this would instantly kill off blatant cheaters as it would insta ban them in seconds without fail, the problem is the cheats that emulate humans. This is where AI comes in clutch, because it will effectively force cheats to emulate humans perfectly, and at that point a cheater would be no different than just a really good player, sure an advantage, but one that can be overcome. Also wallhacks become useless because the AI will communicate with itself the data of other players
@@Yoda_Gaming1738 AI anti cheat is super enticing. And I've seen the videos on the subject. My only fear is A) Game companies right now are making Anti cheats for maximum profit, keeping the cheaters happy so they spend money, and keeping the streamers/middle class citizens who spend money on their games happy, So what they do is throw cheaters/crappy smurfs into games with people who barely play and don't spend money keeing the streamers/people who've spent money happy *and* the cheaters happy. as people have dubbed it "profit based matchmaking". The only reason this is a possibility is because of how many people swear up and down cheats aren't common. but B) I fear a game company will make a purposely flawed AI Anti-Cheat to say "Guys it doesn't work" so they can convince everyone and go back to their ways.
@@Yoda_Gaming1738yes, please analyse all my inputs and my screen, 24/7.
@@Yoda_Gaming1738you act like we didn't use AI before lol, what did you think vacnet and valve anticheat software is? This is not new, and you act like an ai is worse, I prefer having a trained ai that will have 99% accuracy of detecting cheaters instead of manual bans issued by developers that are a 50/50 chance of a false positive and will take ages to review everything
@@SCP-tn2ln im not talking about AI algorithms that simply just scan your pc. im talking about what is basically a robot that watches every players gameplay at the same time in real time and determines if their actions can even be preformed by a human. Basically Homeless has a video on one of the many companies working to make this a reality. also manual bans still have a very high degree of accuracy, and are mostly done if a ticket is submitted for a false ban by the anti cheat. AI anti cheat is great, and will destroy blatant cheating, but its extremely invasive
Single player is where it’s at. There cheats are ok too for some extra fun lol. I had the gameshark back in the day lmao
lmao
You can always clone the company's servers' packets or just reverse engineer it entirely so that your stuff doesn't become E-waste.
Considering most games have cross play, XIMs are not affecting just console players. XIMs are 100% cheating.
On a tengentially related topic, I used to develop trainers for various online MMO PC games back in the day. I never used them myself and I didn't play most of the games that I developed trainers for, but at some point I realized how much of a negative impact cheating was having on many of those games, including the few that I enjoyed, and I stopped developing trainers for online games.
Cheating in online games is stupid and only hurts the game and the experience for everyone. Cheating in single player games can be loads of fun on subsequent playthroughs, though.
They really do.....cheaters are what just lead to the end of gaming, especially corporate greed and negligence
And thots, don't forget the thots.
@@SufferMeNow yes, 100%, to me the whole console vs PC thing is ridiculous.....just enjoy the game, don't make this into a "haha master race" or "atleast I don't get ddosed" though it can happen in console too but imma be real though, we just need to play the game without cheaters