Flew these for years for a bank/check company. We would get in first and then it would be packed with duffle bags loaded with bank work. Felt very nervous about it w/ no way out but eventually there was a pilot door "gull wing" mod installed. Use to pull into military bases and the crews would gather around wondering what the heck it was. As wide as it was long. The plane did only one thing well. It was f a st...........
I love the MU-2. I remember seeing it at my local airport many years ago, when I was a kid.. It seemed that it's prop blades were almost too big for the size of plane they were attached to. I waited for it to depart, and was stunned to hear how weird it sounds. It sounds like a giant hoover with something stuck in the hose. Sadly the Asobo incarnation doesn't really sound like that. It's rather shy i the sounds department actually. And it taxi's like it weighs nothing. But it flies nicely, so I actually do enjoy it!
The sound is weird, because when you start it up its really loud and then it gets super quiet, like someone has put a headset on. Like, no... I want to blow my eardrums out thanks.
10:04 You have to apply fuel manually, next checklist item Oil PSI >40 Left Fuel Switch On. Not a bug, starts just fine. A quirky old turboprop, just the way i like it. Will never forget the first time i saw one as a kid, they howl like something other worldly, so cool!
The landing? We called it "positive contact" in the Marines. I picked this up as soon as it was released. There were no reviews out yet (I usually wait for you to review an aircraft before buying) but I took it for a tour of the sound anyway. I didn't know the start procedure either until I watched Jonathan Beckett's review. This was my very first turboprop experience and I had to fly it by the seat of my pants ... crazy! I think I'm going to love this airplane, it's from my era (I'm old) and it's fast! It would probably be a good idea to read the manual at some point 🙂
Yes, that's it, positive :D I'm more used to turboprops now, but im used to them starting to spool and build power before introducing fuel not waiting for oil pressure then go... it felt backward and confusing :D
I'm not mad it's just observation you must complete the entire checklist not just half of it I still love your videos and as I do not have the ability to do any flight simming on my own I enjoy channels such as yours because at least get to live vicariously through your channel and others
I didn't realise this aircraft is as old as it is , yes the avionics are the old dials ( which I like ) but it looks airframe shape like a very modern aircraft ......I LIKE IT 🙂
Great review Angel. This has always been a day 1 buy for me, ever since it was revealed! LOL don't worry about rambling on - I always wait for your cute 'Byeee' at the end of your vids... :)
Nice review. I think this is my first plane where you can configure the interior layout without having to go back to the main menu to select another livery. 2 main gripes I have. It seems to be either super light or super powerful. Can't imagine it would be like that IRL. Other gripe is the trim is super sensitive. But other than that, amazing 👏
When I was a private pilot 40 years ago, I vividly remember lusting over one of these at my local airport. It was gorgeous. Regarding the startup... It takes a surprising amount of time after you hit the start button for the prop to start spinning. Like 30 or 40 seconds.
@@ceoverona1929 I'm sure as an experienced sim pilot she would have realized it. But perhaps the anxiety in recording the video caused tunnel vision on the checklist, and the obvious obmission went unnoticed.
No, I was just expecting the engines to spool and N1 to rise... not to sit at zero with no spooling. That threw me off honestly. I wasn't going to put fuel in till that occured or I'd hot start. :D I got caught out by familiarity with other types.
Thanks for the review, informative as always :) For 10€, it's a nice addition to the fleet. For 1963 the MU-2 looks pretty modern (like the first Learjet in the same year). Taxiing without analogue breaks is pretty wild though, that thing wants to go :D Has anybody tried landings on shorter runways with reverse blades, yet?
@@joergbock1976 dunno.. its 15€ on the market and thats what i paid..so i guess.. yes its still a good product for that...i have paid over twice for way crappier planes.. They could had a few more liveries tough
Great review as always , I found it was reluctant to get off the runway but then I only used 10% flaps and taxiing it tends to run away even with the pitch put to taxi . How ever for the price it's nice and well worth the money .
Did you have any issues with compatibility while using your Alpha Yoke and Bravo Throttle Quadrant? I have to use the switches in the Sim panel display to make the transponder and Garmin work properly (yes, I checked the inverter and radio switches). On the Bravo, the throttle, prop, flap, and landing gear levers work OK, but when you use the switches, the avionics go crazy (including the parking brake). The autopilot works (sort of) but I end up going back and forth between the one that comes with the Sim and my Bravo. Did you have to do any configuring? Care to share? I love flying this bird, especially at altitude (it is faster the higher you go), but it is annoying having to go back and forth. I may have to invest in a head tracker or something. I'm hoping that there is a workaround out there.
If you would have continued to follow the checklist to the next two items when you were trying to start the engines you would have started them you failed to see the item that said oil pressure at 40 PSI and then the next item was the switches just to the left of the center of the bottom of the panel that you had to switch and then the engine would start so remember a checklist is not just what you've done but it is the entire checklist even the things you haven't done yet when you have completed the checklist you have completed the checklist if you stop halfway through you have not completed the checklist end thus not done everything that needed to be done
So for clarity, It's certainly my fault, but it's more an expectation thing... I was expecting the engines to spool before I introduced fuel.. to avoid a hot start. When nothing spooled I was confused. Most turboprops start differently. I was 'expecting' something to tell me this had occured not just oil pressure changing. Does this make sense?
@@AvAngel well to be honest I would have suspected the same thing for them to just pull up but one of the RUclips channels I watch by Pilot that actually flies a MU2 and another channel that did a review on this product I have been a fan of this aircraft since I first knew of its existence and I got the opportunity to watch many of them fly in and out of an airport I would airplane spot at way too many years ago. Now I just need somebody to make and then review a good Piaggio p180 Avanti
The violent pitch to the sky followed by the violent pitch to the ground has to be defect in the flight model. If the model is correct, then this would be a very dangerous aircraft to fly in the real world. Further research has revealed that this aircraft was dangerous and FFA crash investigations killed its sales leading to a cease in production. As others have stated, the flight model needs adjusting. I doubt I will be flying this one much until that happens.
I've personally not been impressed by a single Inibuilds purchase I've made (or even the A310 for that matter) and the general consensus around this is.....not great. Inibuilds is definitely "bottom-tier" quality in my opinion.
Hello! Not to be a party crasher, you were not following the Checklist Start procedure correctly. If you noticed it did not say Both Gearing switches to GROUND it said only the LEFT GEARING SWITCH to Ground, ENGINE 1 Fuel Enrichment Press, ENGINE 1 Crank switch to CRANK, amd finally ENGINE 1 Start switch to START! you were doing Both at a time and therefore NOT following the correct procedure! Under real circumstances you cannot do a dual start. That's just my observance.
Thank you for another great review. I was really excited to get this plane, it used to be a favourite back in my X-Plane days. And it looks beautiful, however I was disappointed with some of the "quirks" that make it difficult to fly, especially take off, and the autopilot. So I was interested to hear what you had to say about it. The rear wheels are behind the CG which does make for a little spicy takeoff, but I think it's overexaggerated on this model, also the taxi speed, yikes! And the sounds definitely need work. Apparently it is impossible to stall and spin, I haven't tried this myself, but other users are saying this. The modern cockpit would be nice if it had an extra GPS, and a modern autopilot. I'd also like to see controls for the door and cabin light on the control panel, just for convenience! (details, I know ... ) I've been following the MU-2 thread on the MSFS forums, and Ini are following the discussion and taking notes, so hopefully there'll be an update in the near future. I don't think the cheap price is a justification for accepting flight model inaccuracies or other faults. I'd rather pay a slightly higher price for something that is properly finished as I doubt another developer will be making a model of the same plane. I really want to love this plane, it has so much potential, but it's not quite there yet.
This plane tends to taxi fast. It is common to use reverse periodically while taxing because ground idle is just so fast haha. Also there is no ailerons. Only spoilerons. Leads to more flaps and small wings. Keeps the speed up. Has the same wing area as a 182
I followed Jonathan Beckett's startup procedure and it worked like a charm. Great details! Thanks so much for sharing, your opinion and wit are unbeatable!
The sticky take-off behaviour caught me out, but what really killed it for me was the AP behaviour. Tried to follow a VOR track with ALT Hold, and started hunting the track eventually ending up in an unrecoverable bank turn and 100% nose up Trim (just like the early days of the sim).
There was something about this plane. It was considered an under appreciated twin, but I remember chatter about pilots transitioning to a twin could fly this with less training? Which led to several incidents? Maybe? I need to research this. I had forgotten all about this plane till AA’s review video
The trim is busted I swear, something is off with it... it either does nothing or it runs away or its on an exponential curve. Also if you look up N19GA which I'm guessing is the basis for this livery, you can actually see a lot of the rivets shown in the in sim livery, it's mostly the ones around the window you can't see.
Fueled a Moo-too once. Roots to outboards, nearly got my ladder stuck under the tip tank because it leans really hard. I wasn't, however, prepared for how stupidly loud it was. I've dealt with many turboprops as a rampie and the Mu-2 I felt in my chest
Flew and fueled my own because linemen HATED it. Venting tip tanks blew their glasses off. You must only add " 60 gal iirc" per tip which are the mains at one time before going to the other side. I have see a tip topped and it was touching the ground. Also PRIST was needed. Yes VERY loud. Don't miss flying it at all but it was fast and cheap.
It has been made since WW2 until the 80's, the rivets are a feature not a bug, I'm also quite the sucker for a twin turbo prop, especially one that I think I could fly into a grass or gravel strip. I'll be getting this on Friday.
I enjoy watching your videos as much as a next guy, but I must say that your airmanship could use some work. For a starter, a rtfm is always a good idea, especially with this kind of quirky aircraft that really asks following the SOP to a letter (check out incidents and accidents reports on MU-2 Mitsubishi), and it's always better to do things the right way even if only for purely aesthetical reasons.
I DID Rtfm :D That's the funny part. As I said to other comments here, the lack of spool threw me and thus i didn't want to introduce fuel as the engines didn't seem to be doing anything. unfamiliarity. but i was reading the checklists!
This airplaine is my greatest fear, a guy I knew died in this airplane, its a deadly one in the real life. Always the same thing, icing on the airframe, which caused the airspeed to decrease to the point where the aircraft stalled and entered a spin especially on landing. This airplane doesn't really bite in the air, his stall speed is very high at 100knts flaps down, and the fuel thanks are very heavy in the high wings, if you are stalling you will suffer a kind of water hammer and start in a deadly spin. I would tell you to land around 130knts full flaps and plan your wings to be as light as you can in fuel, and avoid icing at all cost. Also I think there is a reverse on the throttle so avoid to activate it when reducing the throttle when landing...
Flew these for years for a bank/check company. We would get in first and then it would be packed with duffle bags loaded with bank work. Felt very nervous about it w/ no way out but eventually there was a pilot door "gull wing" mod installed. Use to pull into military bases and the crews would gather around wondering what the heck it was. As wide as it was long. The plane did only one thing well. It was f a st...........
I love the MU-2. I remember seeing it at my local airport many years ago, when I was a kid.. It seemed that it's prop blades were almost too big for the size of plane they were attached to. I waited for it to depart, and was stunned to hear how weird it sounds. It sounds like a giant hoover with something stuck in the hose.
Sadly the Asobo incarnation doesn't really sound like that. It's rather shy i the sounds department actually. And it taxi's like it weighs nothing. But it flies nicely, so I actually do enjoy it!
Well said love everything but the sound
it's from Inibuilds 👍
The sound is weird, because when you start it up its really loud and then it gets super quiet, like someone has put a headset on. Like, no... I want to blow my eardrums out thanks.
10:04 You have to apply fuel manually, next checklist item Oil PSI >40 Left Fuel Switch On. Not a bug, starts just fine. A quirky old turboprop, just the way i like it.
Will never forget the first time i saw one as a kid, they howl like something other worldly, so cool!
Unbeliavebly loud - perhaps the loudest turbine prop out there.
The landing? We called it "positive contact" in the Marines. I picked this up as soon as it was released. There were no reviews out yet (I usually wait for you to review an aircraft before buying) but I took it for a tour of the sound anyway. I didn't know the start procedure either until I watched Jonathan Beckett's review. This was my very first turboprop experience and I had to fly it by the seat of my pants ... crazy! I think I'm going to love this airplane, it's from my era (I'm old) and it's fast! It would probably be a good idea to read the manual at some point 🙂
Yes, that's it, positive :D I'm more used to turboprops now, but im used to them starting to spool and build power before introducing fuel not waiting for oil pressure then go... it felt backward and confusing :D
I'm not mad it's just observation you must complete the entire checklist not just half of it I still love your videos and as I do not have the ability to do any flight simming on my own I enjoy channels such as yours because at least get to live vicariously through your channel and others
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I didn't realise this aircraft is as old as it is , yes the avionics are the old dials ( which I like ) but it looks airframe shape like a very modern aircraft ......I LIKE IT 🙂
Great review Angel. This has always been a day 1 buy for me, ever since it was revealed!
LOL don't worry about rambling on - I always wait for your cute 'Byeee' at the end of your vids... :)
:D Thanks Jazz :D
It was a day one buy for me too, adorable little planes.
Brought this yesterday fun aircraft to fly got a choice cargo or passengers
Nice review. I think this is my first plane where you can configure the interior layout without having to go back to the main menu to select another livery.
2 main gripes I have. It seems to be either super light or super powerful. Can't imagine it would be like that IRL.
Other gripe is the trim is super sensitive.
But other than that, amazing 👏
Glad it wasn't just me who inadvertently accelerated to near takeoff speed while taxying :)
Can you feather the props a little for slower taxiing?
When I was a private pilot 40 years ago, I vividly remember lusting over one of these at my local airport. It was gorgeous. Regarding the startup... It takes a surprising amount of time after you hit the start button for the prop to start spinning. Like 30 or 40 seconds.
Yeah mine didn't even start spinning at all.... which threw me off.
You didnt do anything wrong. The In sim checklist didnt mention to turn on the Fuel Tanks. It is menion in the checklist in the manual Page 34.
isn't it logical?😉
@@ceoverona1929 I'm sure as an experienced sim pilot she would have realized it. But perhaps the anxiety in recording the video caused tunnel vision on the checklist, and the obvious obmission went unnoticed.
No, I was just expecting the engines to spool and N1 to rise... not to sit at zero with no spooling. That threw me off honestly. I wasn't going to put fuel in till that occured or I'd hot start. :D I got caught out by familiarity with other types.
You should turn on the pumps after rich >40 Psi oil presure
Yeah they threw me as I’m used to spool before fuel with my turbos
Love this plane, but you're right. Those rivets need to be the same color.
It was starting you didn't turn the fuel on when the Oil Pressure got to 40%
It moved? I swear nothing happened
Thanks for the review, informative as always :) For 10€, it's a nice addition to the fleet. For 1963 the MU-2 looks pretty modern (like the first Learjet in the same year). Taxiing without analogue breaks is pretty wild though, that thing wants to go :D
Has anybody tried landings on shorter runways with reverse blades, yet?
15€ for me
@@sparrowlt Has the discount offer stopped already? Still a good product for that money.
@@joergbock1976 dunno.. its 15€ on the market and thats what i paid..so i guess.. yes its still a good product for that...i have paid over twice for way crappier planes.. They could had a few more liveries tough
Great review as always , I found it was reluctant to get off the runway but then I only used 10% flaps and taxiing it tends to run away even with the pitch put to taxi . How ever for the price it's nice and well worth the money .
Yeah she's wild on the ground, not sure if that's accurate.
I flew one o f he’s for years in xplane. This one’s seems dumbed down.
It also had a very strong pull to the right on take off
After hitting start, you have to introduce the fuelover to the left of the yoke.
I did this exact same thing
Yeah I was expecting a spool first which is why I got confused
@@AvAngel I literally followed the checklist, then said, "this must be wrong, this makes no sense" lol
Did you have any issues with compatibility while using your Alpha Yoke and Bravo Throttle Quadrant? I have to use the switches in the Sim panel display to make the transponder and Garmin work properly (yes, I checked the inverter and radio switches). On the Bravo, the throttle, prop, flap, and landing gear levers work OK, but when you use the switches, the avionics go crazy (including the parking brake). The autopilot works (sort of) but I end up going back and forth between the one that comes with the Sim and my Bravo. Did you have to do any configuring? Care to share? I love flying this bird, especially at altitude (it is faster the higher you go), but it is annoying having to go back and forth. I may have to invest in a head tracker or something. I'm hoping that there is a workaround out there.
Some yes
You missed switch on left en right fuel valve siwtches, bottom left of pilot yoke to be able to start engines
I’m used to only giving it fuel after it spools so it threw me off
@@AvAngel I'm also used to fuel mixture controlls to add half for taxi and full for take off with Turbo prop planes but not this one.
If you would have continued to follow the checklist to the next two items when you were trying to start the engines you would have started them you failed to see the item that said oil pressure at 40 PSI and then the next item was the switches just to the left of the center of the bottom of the panel that you had to switch and then the engine would start so remember a checklist is not just what you've done but it is the entire checklist even the things you haven't done yet when you have completed the checklist you have completed the checklist if you stop halfway through you have not completed the checklist end thus not done everything that needed to be done
So for clarity, It's certainly my fault, but it's more an expectation thing... I was expecting the engines to spool before I introduced fuel.. to avoid a hot start. When nothing spooled I was confused. Most turboprops start differently. I was 'expecting' something to tell me this had occured not just oil pressure changing. Does this make sense?
@@AvAngel well to be honest I would have suspected the same thing for them to just pull up but one of the RUclips channels I watch by Pilot that actually flies a MU2 and another channel that did a review on this product I have been a fan of this aircraft since I first knew of its existence and I got the opportunity to watch many of them fly in and out of an airport I would airplane spot at way too many years ago. Now I just need somebody to make and then review a good Piaggio p180 Avanti
A 180 Avanti IS coming :D rejoice, I love those too.
L=Local time Z= Zulu time.
I have smol brain at 2am
I was hoping it was available for XBOX. They do not have any cool planes on xbox but now they are selling cars.. so stupid
Great video, thank
you
I am pretty sure that it will be released for Xbox I'd it hasn't been already.
The violent pitch to the sky followed by the violent pitch to the ground has to be defect in the flight model. If the model is correct, then this would be a very dangerous aircraft to fly in the real world. Further research has revealed that this aircraft was dangerous and FFA crash investigations killed its sales leading to a cease in production. As others have stated, the flight model needs adjusting. I doubt I will be flying this one much until that happens.
Rivet counter.
I've personally not been impressed by a single Inibuilds purchase I've made (or even the A310 for that matter) and the general consensus around this is.....not great.
Inibuilds is definitely "bottom-tier" quality in my opinion.
for me 9.99 €🙂
Initial sale yeah
The panel on it is terrible. I like the plane and wish someone would make a high quality/realistic one. How do you get a refund? lol
Clearly you do not know how the thing works. You would NEVER try to start two engines at the same time.
Im aware, but in the nature of videos I try to save time often , nature of the beast
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Hello! Not to be a party crasher, you were not following the Checklist Start procedure correctly. If you noticed it did not say Both Gearing switches to GROUND it said only the LEFT GEARING SWITCH to Ground, ENGINE 1 Fuel Enrichment Press, ENGINE 1 Crank switch to CRANK, amd finally ENGINE 1 Start switch to START! you were doing Both at a time and therefore NOT following the correct procedure! Under real circumstances you cannot do a dual start. That's just my observance.
Thank you for another great review. I was really excited to get this plane, it used to be a favourite back in my X-Plane days. And it looks beautiful, however I was disappointed with some of the "quirks" that make it difficult to fly, especially take off, and the autopilot. So I was interested to hear what you had to say about it.
The rear wheels are behind the CG which does make for a little spicy takeoff, but I think it's overexaggerated on this model, also the taxi speed, yikes! And the sounds definitely need work. Apparently it is impossible to stall and spin, I haven't tried this myself, but other users are saying this. The modern cockpit would be nice if it had an extra GPS, and a modern autopilot. I'd also like to see controls for the door and cabin light on the control panel, just for convenience! (details, I know ... )
I've been following the MU-2 thread on the MSFS forums, and Ini are following the discussion and taking notes, so hopefully there'll be an update in the near future.
I don't think the cheap price is a justification for accepting flight model inaccuracies or other faults. I'd rather pay a slightly higher price for something that is properly finished as I doubt another developer will be making a model of the same plane.
I really want to love this plane, it has so much potential, but it's not quite there yet.
I definitely agree! The flight model seems off and the sounds are ridiculously quiet for one of the loudest GA aircraft ever made.
This plane tends to taxi fast. It is common to use reverse periodically while taxing because ground idle is just so fast haha. Also there is no ailerons. Only spoilerons. Leads to more flaps and small wings. Keeps the speed up. Has the same wing area as a 182
Those leading edge ice boots look pretty darn realistic . Sweet sleek bird, thak you for your reviews !!!
I followed Jonathan Beckett's startup procedure and it worked like a charm. Great details! Thanks so much for sharing, your opinion and wit are unbeatable!
I think I was expecting spool... so that's my bad.
The sticky take-off behaviour caught me out, but what really killed it for me was the AP behaviour. Tried to follow a VOR track with ALT Hold, and started hunting the track eventually ending up in an unrecoverable bank turn and 100% nose up Trim (just like the early days of the sim).
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There was something about this plane. It was considered an under appreciated twin, but I remember chatter about pilots transitioning to a twin could fly this with less training? Which led to several incidents? Maybe? I need to research this. I had forgotten all about this plane till AA’s review video
Just grabbed it for 9 dollars. Fun little plane.
The trim is busted I swear, something is off with it... it either does nothing or it runs away or its on an exponential curve. Also if you look up N19GA which I'm guessing is the basis for this livery, you can actually see a lot of the rivets shown in the in sim livery, it's mostly the ones around the window you can't see.
Considering buying this one. I love the analog gauges...
All else fails. Ctrl E..😂
It is the savior of idiots. (In this case modern vs older turboprop behavior confused me)
Fueled a Moo-too once. Roots to outboards, nearly got my ladder stuck under the tip tank because it leans really hard.
I wasn't, however, prepared for how stupidly loud it was. I've dealt with many turboprops as a rampie and the Mu-2 I felt in my chest
Flew and fueled my own because linemen HATED it. Venting tip tanks blew their glasses off. You must only add " 60 gal iirc" per tip which are the mains at one time before going to the other side. I have see a tip topped and it was touching the ground. Also PRIST was needed. Yes VERY loud. Don't miss flying it at all but it was fast and cheap.
It has been made since WW2 until the 80's, the rivets are a feature not a bug, I'm also quite the sucker for a twin turbo prop, especially one that I think I could fly into a grass or gravel strip. I'll be getting this on Friday.
Eh most darker irl photos show the rivets skin color not silver so... eh.
EH! is the appropriate response xD@@AvAngel
I have a soft spot for this plane, thanks for the review 😊
Great review, as always - thanks!
I enjoy watching your videos as much as a next guy, but I must say that your airmanship could use some work. For a starter, a rtfm is always a good idea, especially with this kind of quirky aircraft that really asks following the SOP to a letter (check out incidents and accidents reports on MU-2 Mitsubishi), and it's always better to do things the right way even if only for purely aesthetical reasons.
I DID Rtfm :D That's the funny part. As I said to other comments here, the lack of spool threw me and thus i didn't want to introduce fuel as the engines didn't seem to be doing anything. unfamiliarity. but i was reading the checklists!
L is local, Z is zulu
I was not surprised you did not touch the AP.. way way up there you know?
It’s pretty basic, I don’t usually review autopilot’s unless it’s weird or unusual
Insta bought it... reasonably price and i really like this one
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This airplaine is my greatest fear, a guy I knew died in this airplane, its a deadly one in the real life. Always the same thing, icing on the airframe, which caused the airspeed to decrease to the point where the aircraft stalled and entered a spin especially on landing. This airplane doesn't really bite in the air, his stall speed is very high at 100knts flaps down, and the fuel thanks are very heavy in the high wings, if you are stalling you will suffer a kind of water hammer and start in a deadly spin. I would tell you to land around 130knts full flaps and plan your wings to be as light as you can in fuel, and avoid icing at all cost. Also I think there is a reverse on the throttle so avoid to activate it when reducing the throttle when landing...
Yeah the aerofoil is high speed not really a lift generator with those skinny wings. Not a good combo.
Oke please.made a video with autopilot vertical speed en nav tracking
I mean it's just... press the button... it's not complicated.
How about turning the fuel on??
Yeah usually you do that once it spools :D
@@AvAngel 😁
I think you never introduced the fuel, and that's why the engines never started. I could be wrong and probably am but there we go.
Fuel tanks were not turned on
I know, i didn't because it didn't spool so it threw me off.