I bought the Caribou as soon as it was released and love it. I live in Australia and was used to RAAF displaying this aircraft. It is my type of aircraft and is very rugged. I have had the chance to look all around these aircraft many times. I have worked on fighters, transport, Photo recon. small freighters and at 73 still doing maintenance and repairs on light aircraft part-time. Love MSFS what a huge jump from FSX. I have downloaded as many RAAF Caribou repaints as I can. Keep up your lay-back style of reviews I like them. Thank you.
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE HATERS, especially those in the bushes 😂Keep doin what you're doin AvAngel. You are appreciated. We're having fun here not studying for our commercial pilot's license. Haters ... Relax or go kick rocks!
After I start flying irl it just feels wrong to doing certain things in the sim lol but yeah I agree don't see the issue of having of fun. No harming being done here!
Great airplane for the bush, no doubt! Love my "Boo" and being an ole timer, and having flown DHC-6, DHC-7 and DHC 8 I feel right at home with the ole slam dunk landing! Props and Analog rule. Jets are for kids lol !
That honker was designed for exactly that sort of landing. If you had used the stol speed indicator you would have used even less runway!!!!!! The Caribou was the plane that many in our armed forces swore by in tight situations. Bloody loverly video AV!!!!
Oh my, I really enjoyed that flight. You were in your element on this one, bush flying, big radials, fantastic scenery; and you we’re clearly enjoying every minute of it, as was I. Thank you. BTW, I would love to see another NZ South Island video in this beautifully ugly airplane.
Good stuff as always Av. The point of that gauge under the glare shield with the fast/slow on it is to guide you to an optimum approach speed for short landings. There's a diamond and either a circle or triangle on it (I don't recall which). Depending on your all up weight you put the needle on either the diamond or other symbol (the placard below tells you what weight you would select which) and that's you're ideal final approach speed if you're trying to nail your landings as short as possible. I guess the idea is with it under the glare shield it's still in view while focusing outside, rather than having to keep glancing down at the panel, also means you don't have to think about numbers, just fast or slow. When you fly by it, it's really pretty surprising just how slow you can bring her in on the approach, I think it's somewhere around 65-70kts, really helped me, just from the perspective of getting past the reluctance to get such a big aircraft that slow lol.
The Aussies actually landed in NZMF once, many years ago. They had to back up the runway to take off again. The parking area was really small back then, and no taxiway.
YES ! Caribou is a beaut ! I've been 'flying it' since day one.. Like you, I'm definitely a "Give me a big Twin radial any day of the week" kind if a girl.. I love it.. Thanks for the vid as always xxx
It does handle bush strips very well. One of my fav's now. It does trim out better than I thought it would after more flight time in her. Also, "Air America" had a couple with Auto Pilot installed. Nice flying!!!
@12:00, the explanation of the gull wing and how the enhanced angle off horizontal improves lift, stably, at the wing root, was enlightening. And, the flotsam and jetsam at Gorge River is indeed cool.
With all respect - and not sure on the Corsair - but the ‘gull wing’ was not to provide more lift. It was designed to shorten the landing gear and keep it stronger. I do suspect the Corsair did the same thing. To clear a large prop but still have strength in the landing gear. I have a little over 1000hrs in the real airframe. (DHC-4). Out of interest, they dropped the gull wing in the DHC-5 when they installed turbo props.
AV: "BB is dropping the Otter!" My initial reaction after hearing that sentence: "BY THE THRONE, NO! HOW COULD THEY CANCEL THE OTTER? ALL IS LOST!" Wording, eh? I'm already sitting at home with covid right now, no need to give me a heart attack, too. :p As for the Caribou, i'm a bit torn. Lovely aircraft, lovely visual model, of course, but...... Eh, it's as another Asobo-sponsored plane, and that means low cost, but also marginal systems depth, probably no manual and so on. Not much to really sink your teeth into. I feel I've already bought too many planes like that; Planes that i'll fly literally a couple of times before i go back to something with full-depth systems that cost twice as much. There's just more to get into and even learn from, there. So now i think i'll just get the truly shiny stuff when it comes out and save my money in the meantime. Call me a snob if you will.^^ Oh, and there's the fact it's only on the Marketplace, with which i am now completely done. Risking numerous transaction errors just so you can wait months for updates is just no fun. Gotta say though that NZ scenery is absolutely lovely!
I can vouch for the Xbox payware edition absolutely wonderful plane! Cargo bay is interactive and fun Plus the stole characteristics are great for Bush trips
that was a pretty great flight of what is forming up as my "next possible purchase, even if you know you'll never fly it more than a handful of times" aircraft... 😄
Thanks for the great video. You've helped me make the decision to buy it. Now I can't wait to give it a go! A quick note on some of the side-info you gave: the first version of the Paramount mountain was inspired by Ben Lomond Mountain in Utah. It was later updated to resemble Artesonraju in Peru. The opening scene in Raiders was filmed in Hawaii, not New Zealand. So, as impressive as Mitre Peak is, it didn't have anything to do with Paramount or Raiders. Keep up the good work!
I won't have time to watch this until later today, but I popped in just to say you got my 'like' for the title alone 😂 If that's an AvAngel original I take my hat off to you, if not thanks for sharing
Ok, I meant until later another day... life, eh? 😂 The short field approach gauge is just an alternate asi, uncluttered by irrelevant info and positioned up high to maintain good peripheral view of the field. The two individual marks to the left of centre mark the approach speed, depending on weight. It feels really (REALLY!) 'wrong' coming in that slow, which is probably why you 'need' constant confirmation like that As for the haters, I assumed you were a real-world GA pilot before I ever heard you mention it from your understanding of basic aviation concepts, and from your ability to translate that to more complex aircraft and systems you readily admit to having no experience of. But what would I know? I used a weather preset once in a sim and have even been known to spawn on the runway when leisure time is limited, so I'm not a (former) real-world pilot either.
I use weather presets all the time to fly in different conditions, its fun :D And yes I am, I don't ever pretend to be an expert, and I also have to play the 'youtube game' of making sure things stay entertaining and that means somethings cutting some corners in the name of the video.
A little bit more info about the fast/slow indicator, or as DHC call it the 'short field approach speed indicator'. It's driven by the stall warning system (specifically the right side lift computer, looking at the right side lift transducer vane aka angle of attack vane) and shows you how close to stalling you are. Because it's driven by the stall warning system the weather and altitude and aircraft weight are irrelevant, all it cares about is attitude and airflow over the wings. It is calibrated to work on the final approach phase of a flaps 40 landing, and it does exactly what it says on the tin - FAST means you're going to waste runway, the triangle means you're doing it right in the real world, SLOW means you're doing it right in the sim :) The stick shaker should kick in about when the needle gets to the L in SLOW at flaps 40. ObDisclaimer - this is real world info taken from DHC-4 service manuals, I haven't tested any of this in the sim to see if it actually works, although it looked like it worked pretty well in that second landing, even though I'm not sure you were looking at it LOL :)
Light stick shakers come on at 8kts above the stall. Heavy stick shakers at 4kts above. You can see the motors on the back of the yokes - an eccentric weight spins on the end of electric motors. Not modeled as yet, but I suspect it will be in an update. Certainly the switch to test the stick shakers functions.
Thought for a minute the video was about me, as called "swan in duck clothing" - 😂 But then I heard fat beast, turn the old pig around and honker 🤔😝- I bet you could land that in someone’s back garden!🪴- Awesome stuff AV! P.S. I heard head trackers are awesome, another item for my wish list 🙏 P.P.S Just think what Pablo could want transported in that thing all low level, cargo heaven.
It is a game to have fun. A game! Based on real flying but still a game. Every realtime pilot will tell you that. As I just did. So just have fun and enjoy 😃
We used to carry a jeep in the back to do strip surveys, for example. You still only set the ramp to 15, then use the ramp extensions (and a stand to stop the aircraft tipping onto it’s backside 😂). The ramp extensions are super strong
@@47guitartom that’s correct. In fact there’s two sets. One secured to the cargo floor and a second set stored in their more usual location in the tail boom above the cargo door in this model. You close the cargo door to get them out.
Did you notice if this plane keeps wanting to bank left? It does for me and very annoying. Have to activate AP to level it off. Maybe I need to set some aileron or rudder trim?
I agree, a C123 Provider or 119 Boxcar would be nice but don’t think they will come out for a while. Watching your vid I will hold off buying the DHC-4 for a while although it looks ugly but nice.
Love when people try to call you out for not flying 'realistically'. It's a simulator!!!! One many occasions, I've busted the minimums to land at an airport I couldn't even see until I was basically over the runway. But hey, it's fun to do silly things like that. Hehehe... "We're flying in the bush. Quite literally, we're flying into a bush." - Oh AvAngel!!
Man i can't wait for the comanche from A2A imagine if it is just like the fsx one with the walk around feature, tow feature,removing static objects on walk around view plus the filling and refilling of oil and compression tests it will be crazy oh and don't forget the swapping of stock parts with aftermarket parts
So true … all these planes that are popping up .. look the part but are all basic systems .. .. a2a is another level .. really can’t wait for their arrival
I'm so happy this plane came out and is good. Now I can reenact the heroic, if ultimately tragically unsuccessful, efforts to rescue a crashed B-29 from the Arctic. Anyone know how much a JD-250 bulldozer weighs? ruclips.net/video/kXin-S4fK4o/видео.html
Hello, This plane is absolutly unrealistic. 10s from cold & dark to ready for taxiing. They could have done something great, they didn't. With some planes like the Beaver you need to follow correctly the check-list to start the engine, with some you also need to warm-up or your engine will break (Wilga), but with this big plane what do you need ? power, magnetos, start engines, start alternators and lets go to the runway. frustrating.
I mean it’s the same as most default aircraft even the beaver can be started with fuel mags start. They don’t make the famous fliers that deep for a reason , realistic? No but you can follow the checklists and do it right, most stock planes let you be unrealistic even the dc3 minus the realism mod
love your videos, but NZQE looks strange for me, do you have installed any scenery? the "white house" isn't there for me, NZQE looks better for me.... look here (sorry for the bad landing, didn't check wind and weather before...) ruclips.net/video/j_V0XGclzgE/видео.html
It certainly can be a study level sim but that’s entirely on how you use it… we don’t always have to be super serious… people need to realise it’s a game, I’ll do things in videos I would never dream of doing in real life and at times I’ll follow my exact procedures
@@AvAngel Exactly that is what I always say, most of us are not pilots just people who enjoy flying and sometimes we have the mood, the time, and the energy to make a fully realistic flight and sometimes we don't that's the point of flight simming.
Enjoy the simulator, I just got the carabou and love flying it. I don't hop in it when I am in a systems nerd mode as it really isn't for that. It is more for goofing off while looking the part. Flight model is decent enough, though I watched another video where he said that it doesn't have enough drag when in flaps 40 configuration. He did mention good things though!!
I bought the Caribou as soon as it was released and love it. I live in Australia and was used to RAAF displaying this aircraft. It is my type of aircraft and is very rugged. I have had the chance to look all around these aircraft many times. I have worked on fighters, transport, Photo recon. small freighters and at 73 still doing maintenance and repairs on light aircraft part-time. Love MSFS what a huge jump from FSX. I have downloaded as many RAAF Caribou repaints as I can. Keep up your lay-back style of reviews I like them. Thank you.
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE HATERS, especially those in the bushes 😂Keep doin what you're doin AvAngel. You are appreciated. We're having fun here not studying for our commercial pilot's license. Haters ... Relax or go kick rocks!
After I start flying irl it just feels wrong to doing certain things in the sim lol but yeah I agree don't see the issue of having of fun. No harming being done here!
@@caribbaviator7058The FAA standard is no “risk to people or property.” You’re in a sim. So it’s your playground!
Great airplane for the bush, no doubt! Love my "Boo" and being an ole timer, and having flown DHC-6, DHC-7 and DHC 8 I feel right at home with the ole slam dunk landing! Props and Analog rule. Jets are for kids lol !
After watching you land on the second strip I bought the plane. Next time you do this could you play chariots of fire?😂
You are the best sim pilot I have ever seen . Thank you for you videos.
That honker was designed for exactly that sort of landing. If you had used the stol speed indicator you would have used even less runway!!!!!! The Caribou was the plane that many in our armed forces swore by in tight situations. Bloody loverly video AV!!!!
Oh my, I really enjoyed that flight. You were in your element on this one, bush flying, big radials, fantastic scenery; and you we’re clearly enjoying every minute of it, as was I. Thank you. BTW, I would love to see another NZ South Island video in this beautifully ugly airplane.
Good stuff as always Av. The point of that gauge under the glare shield with the fast/slow on it is to guide you to an optimum approach speed for short landings. There's a diamond and either a circle or triangle on it (I don't recall which). Depending on your all up weight you put the needle on either the diamond or other symbol (the placard below tells you what weight you would select which) and that's you're ideal final approach speed if you're trying to nail your landings as short as possible. I guess the idea is with it under the glare shield it's still in view while focusing outside, rather than having to keep glancing down at the panel, also means you don't have to think about numbers, just fast or slow.
When you fly by it, it's really pretty surprising just how slow you can bring her in on the approach, I think it's somewhere around 65-70kts, really helped me, just from the perspective of getting past the reluctance to get such a big aircraft that slow lol.
It varies with weight of course, but at the lightest weights and Flap 40, the Vref gets down to 54kts.
@@Wolf_Sim.Actual oh wow. Yeah, that's what they call a slow approach
A quacking good video about a honking fun aircraft
So glad I found this channel! Not enough bush flying on YT, and this is perfect
That's honestly one of my main focuses other than review work. Its my personal passion.
I was waiting for this! I knew this plane was right up your alley. I was not disappointed! Great landing at the end!
The Caribou is the best plane release to date IMO!
Excellent vid as always.
I always look fwd to your next adventures! 👍👍
She is beautiful! My dad flew one of the Caribou C7s. You are correct, Caribou's didn't have autopilot, you just had to fly her.
The Aussies actually landed in NZMF once, many years ago. They had to back up the runway to take off again. The parking area was really small back then, and no taxiway.
YES ! Caribou is a beaut ! I've been 'flying it' since day one.. Like you, I'm definitely a "Give me a big Twin radial any day of the week" kind if a girl.. I love it.. Thanks for the vid as always xxx
nice to see your keeping the bush nice and tidy, lol... great video have fun
It does handle bush strips very well. One of my fav's now. It does trim out better than I thought it would after more flight time in her. Also, "Air America" had a couple with Auto Pilot installed. Nice flying!!!
@12:00, the explanation of the gull wing and how the enhanced angle off horizontal improves lift, stably, at the wing root, was enlightening. And, the flotsam and jetsam at Gorge River is indeed cool.
With all respect - and not sure on the Corsair - but the ‘gull wing’ was not to provide more lift. It was designed to shorten the landing gear and keep it stronger. I do suspect the Corsair did the same thing. To clear a large prop but still have strength in the landing gear. I have a little over 1000hrs in the real airframe. (DHC-4). Out of interest, they dropped the gull wing in the DHC-5 when they installed turbo props.
I think i fell asleep on this one. 😳
Love me some bush planes. Thanks for the showcase! I'll have to grab it from marketplace.
AV: "BB is dropping the Otter!"
My initial reaction after hearing that sentence: "BY THE THRONE, NO! HOW COULD THEY CANCEL THE OTTER? ALL IS LOST!"
Wording, eh? I'm already sitting at home with covid right now, no need to give me a heart attack, too. :p
As for the Caribou, i'm a bit torn. Lovely aircraft, lovely visual model, of course, but...... Eh, it's as another Asobo-sponsored plane, and that means low cost, but also marginal systems depth, probably no manual and so on. Not much to really sink your teeth into. I feel I've already bought too many planes like that; Planes that i'll fly literally a couple of times before i go back to something with full-depth systems that cost twice as much. There's just more to get into and even learn from, there.
So now i think i'll just get the truly shiny stuff when it comes out and save my money in the meantime. Call me a snob if you will.^^
Oh, and there's the fact it's only on the Marketplace, with which i am now completely done. Risking numerous transaction errors just so you can wait months for updates is just no fun.
Gotta say though that NZ scenery is absolutely lovely!
I can vouch for the Xbox payware edition absolutely wonderful plane! Cargo bay is interactive and fun Plus the stole characteristics are great for Bush trips
that was a pretty great flight of what is forming up as my "next possible purchase, even if you know you'll never fly it more than a handful of times" aircraft... 😄
The chain-drive ailerons yoke is an interesting touch
C-119, C-123, Snoopy's doghouse. Sign me up!
Great flight! I will need to get this bird for sure. Have you considered doing some live streams? I think you'd be a hit!
I would love to, just need to find a time schedule that works :)
Width-wise, that is a BIG plane to land at George River! Well done! Hope you don't need a refill!
12:35 Like the A-10, beauty is not just skin deep. The kind of ugly that only a mother could PROUDLY love.
Thanks for the great video. You've helped me make the decision to buy it. Now I can't wait to give it a go!
A quick note on some of the side-info you gave: the first version of the Paramount mountain was inspired by Ben Lomond Mountain in Utah. It was later updated to resemble Artesonraju in Peru. The opening scene in Raiders was filmed in Hawaii, not New Zealand. So, as impressive as Mitre Peak is, it didn't have anything to do with Paramount or Raiders.
Keep up the good work!
Yes, filmed in Hawaii, but Mitre peak was used for that one shot :)
Great job .... who needs extra length on their wings. Keep up the good work.
I won't have time to watch this until later today, but I popped in just to say you got my 'like' for the title alone 😂 If that's an AvAngel original I take my hat off to you, if not thanks for sharing
Ok, I meant until later another day... life, eh? 😂
The short field approach gauge is just an alternate asi, uncluttered by irrelevant info and positioned up high to maintain good peripheral view of the field. The two individual marks to the left of centre mark the approach speed, depending on weight. It feels really (REALLY!) 'wrong' coming in that slow, which is probably why you 'need' constant confirmation like that
As for the haters, I assumed you were a real-world GA pilot before I ever heard you mention it from your understanding of basic aviation concepts, and from your ability to translate that to more complex aircraft and systems you readily admit to having no experience of. But what would I know? I used a weather preset once in a sim and have even been known to spawn on the runway when leisure time is limited, so I'm not a (former) real-world pilot either.
I use weather presets all the time to fly in different conditions, its fun :D
And yes I am, I don't ever pretend to be an expert, and I also have to play the 'youtube game' of making sure things stay entertaining and that means somethings cutting some corners in the name of the video.
A very informative video Thank You
Well done, one hell of a landing!
Hair Raising landings is what I love about your channel! Keep doing what you doing!👍👍👍
A little bit more info about the fast/slow indicator, or as DHC call it the 'short field approach speed indicator'. It's driven by the stall warning system (specifically the right side lift computer, looking at the right side lift transducer vane aka angle of attack vane) and shows you how close to stalling you are. Because it's driven by the stall warning system the weather and altitude and aircraft weight are irrelevant, all it cares about is attitude and airflow over the wings. It is calibrated to work on the final approach phase of a flaps 40 landing, and it does exactly what it says on the tin - FAST means you're going to waste runway, the triangle means you're doing it right in the real world, SLOW means you're doing it right in the sim :) The stick shaker should kick in about when the needle gets to the L in SLOW at flaps 40. ObDisclaimer - this is real world info taken from DHC-4 service manuals, I haven't tested any of this in the sim to see if it actually works, although it looked like it worked pretty well in that second landing, even though I'm not sure you were looking at it LOL :)
Light stick shakers come on at 8kts above the stall. Heavy stick shakers at 4kts above. You can see the motors on the back of the yokes - an eccentric weight spins on the end of electric motors.
Not modeled as yet, but I suspect it will be in an update. Certainly the switch to test the stick shakers functions.
I purchased it because I have flown in one 😊😊
Thought for a minute the video was about me, as called "swan in duck clothing" - 😂 But then I heard fat beast, turn the old pig around and honker 🤔😝- I bet you could land that in someone’s back garden!🪴- Awesome stuff AV!
P.S. I heard head trackers are awesome, another item for my wish list 🙏
P.P.S Just think what Pablo could want transported in that thing all low level, cargo heaven.
I love that air plain!!!
It is a game to have fun. A game! Based on real flying but still a game. Every realtime pilot will tell you that. As I just did. So just have fun and enjoy 😃
Someone was saying that thought no window heat/de-ice, that if you turn on/up cockpit heat it will de-ice the windows
I’d like to see a cargo version of this loaded up with a couple jeeps in the back. Yes, I think that ramp should go lower as well. Fun plane!
I swear I've seen it with them out somewhere.. how I don't know,
We used to carry a jeep in the back to do strip surveys, for example. You still only set the ramp to 15, then use the ramp extensions (and a stand to stop the aircraft tipping onto it’s backside 😂). The ramp extensions are super strong
@@Wolf_Sim.Actual THAT'S what those two long things are in the back I think! You've had some really great real life experience!
@@47guitartom that’s correct. In fact there’s two sets. One secured to the cargo floor and a second set stored in their more usual location in the tail boom above the cargo door in this model. You close the cargo door to get them out.
Good on ya, Av!
You can actually land it on the NY Manhatten Heliport.. very fun!
Did you notice if this plane keeps wanting to bank left? It does for me and very annoying. Have to activate AP to level it off. Maybe I need to set some aileron or rudder trim?
nice !
good landings
I agree, a C123 Provider or 119 Boxcar would be nice but don’t think they will come out for a while. Watching your vid I will hold off buying the DHC-4 for a while although it looks ugly but nice.
Your Gorge River seems to have two sceneries overlapping. Or at least an autogen building clipping inside the garden shack.
Which is weird as I dont have another scenery for it.
Things are definitely bumpy since thermals were added to the sim,I get chucked around all over the place when flying light aircraft..................
About time !!
Original did not have an autopilot so this is accurate in this case. They nerfed the engine settings though, slower top than I expected.
A c-160 would be awesome
Wish it had a simple AP
Waiting for someone to put floats on This bad boy as a mod.
Love when people try to call you out for not flying 'realistically'. It's a simulator!!!! One many occasions, I've busted the minimums to land at an airport I couldn't even see until I was basically over the runway. But hey, it's fun to do silly things like that. Hehehe...
"We're flying in the bush. Quite literally, we're flying into a bush." - Oh AvAngel!!
XD
Man i can't wait for the comanche from A2A imagine if it is just like the fsx one with the walk around feature, tow feature,removing static objects on walk around view plus the filling and refilling of oil and compression tests it will be crazy oh and don't forget the swapping of stock parts with aftermarket parts
So true … all these planes that are popping up .. look the part but are all basic systems .. .. a2a is another level .. really can’t wait for their arrival
so play list for @avangels vietnam adventure
I'm so happy this plane came out and is good. Now I can reenact the heroic, if ultimately tragically unsuccessful, efforts to rescue a crashed B-29 from the Arctic. Anyone know how much a JD-250 bulldozer weighs? ruclips.net/video/kXin-S4fK4o/видео.html
Hello,
This plane is absolutly unrealistic. 10s from cold & dark to ready for taxiing. They could have done something great, they didn't. With some planes like the Beaver you need to follow correctly the check-list to start the engine, with some you also need to warm-up or your engine will break (Wilga), but with this big plane what do you need ? power, magnetos, start engines, start alternators and lets go to the runway. frustrating.
I mean it’s the same as most default aircraft even the beaver can be started with fuel mags start. They don’t make the famous fliers that deep for a reason , realistic? No but you can follow the checklists and do it right, most stock planes let you be unrealistic even the dc3 minus the realism mod
Glory to Ukraine! :)
love your videos, but NZQE looks strange for me, do you have installed any scenery? the "white house" isn't there for me, NZQE looks better for me.... look here (sorry for the bad landing, didn't check wind and weather before...) ruclips.net/video/j_V0XGclzgE/видео.html
MSFS 2020 is not a study level simulator, but still people take it way too seriously. So long as you are entertained you're doing well!
It certainly can be a study level sim but that’s entirely on how you use it… we don’t always have to be super serious… people need to realise it’s a game, I’ll do things in videos I would never dream of doing in real life and at times I’ll follow my exact procedures
@@AvAngel Exactly that is what I always say, most of us are not pilots just people who enjoy flying and sometimes we have the mood, the time, and the energy to make a fully realistic flight and sometimes we don't that's the point of flight simming.
Enjoy the simulator, I just got the carabou and love flying it. I don't hop in it when I am in a systems nerd mode as it really isn't for that. It is more for goofing off while looking the part. Flight model is decent enough, though I watched another video where he said that it doesn't have enough drag when in flaps 40 configuration. He did mention good things though!!