Yeah they sure were, but the Viper is king and proved it when it set 13 records in 2016. Which is more than any vehicle in automotive racing history. Since that time, I believe that the vett recaptured one of them and think that it was at Laguna Seca. But that was just one, is a long way to go for anyone to take the title or even match it and rules the blacktop
This is the story that disappointed so many people , when without warning , when in 2017 Viper pulled the plug and that was it ... Even though I have owned 3 different Vipers , I had been planning on buying a New Viper in 2020 , which had been rumored to come with a stock 1000 hp engine Convertible supercharged or Turbo d with alot of speculated options or the new Ones.
I didn't write this but it sums up the Viper's legacy: "The Viper is The Most Awarded international track car in the history of the world. It was production dropped straight onto a barge to Germany from dealership...then straight onto the track at green hell track, plastic covering still cover dash, stereo, guages, seats. The Italians and Germans laughed at it in 1996, said it was a bad American joke, then they all got scared in June 1996 when it made it's first trial run. Porsche supposedly regrouped that night and changed out at least one driver and modified suspension specifically, for heading into the hole at turns. The viper was inspired by Carl Shelby while he was earlier working with them before contracting with Ford again. His greatest regret was not developing an all American (no British AC car) production Shelby (Cobra/Daytona). The GTS is a New Shelby Daytona.... Period. Look up the side by sides. The viper is 100% handmade, hand painted, hand assembled, etc. No factory line. The viper was never made at dodge....made by less then 75 individuals working at Team Viper 70 Miles from dodge plant. They made more corvettes in 2014 then every single viper built from 1992-2017. Still today, a ln almost 30 year old viper GTS can take-on on most every single production sports car made today, especially on a true track. They are geared totally differently and the torque produced works with it. The Viper is Americas Ferrari. Time will tell this to be true only when it is over sadly. They only make so made a handful of Ford GTs, even those were out of reach of a normal American to own. The viper is not cheap, but still can be easily afforded. And best of all ...as Jay Leno says...they are absolutely bulletproof and need very little servicing. I have owned 5 vipers, I still have my 2000 GTS steel grey stripe delete with factory optioned brown "Connelly" importer Italian hand sewn for the handmade seats, by humans, right here in the United States. Search for "Viper at green hell" on RUclips. At the end of the day... the viper struck fear and pushed performance of every single European track car. In short, Europeans laughed until the fear transitioned to the tears. Merica' made a car to hit the corners at gforce speed and enough torque to escape the hole coming out. Porsche had turbo lag and corners were not the strongest. The viper had 355 tires that stuck the turn with a mammoth engine, slammed into a snake head design car that weighed as much as a new beetle, and high gearing to bypass shifts. If you could hold on to the steering wheel, the viper could make any turn at higher speeds. Trick to vipers, they are rigid frames and geared differently. You can't rpm match and downshift to 3rd gear on highway ...or downshift while in the turn itself. If you want to burn rubber downshifting while cruising at 80 mph...she will let you. Like a good bad girlfriend, her answer is always yes and how much "
When the Corvette came along, the Motorsport started to evolve, those who couldn't afford to evolve (the Vipers for example) couldn't keep up thus eventually being left behind. Very much like life.
I really wish dodge would have kept up with the viper program, such a great gt car. They really kept dropping the ball with this car. Now they only care about massive horse power in a straight line.
I agree, though I think the reason is because the car is uneconomical and difficult to manufacturer giving it's a 6.2l V10. Not a lot of people want to buy them in this day and age even if they've got the money. In the grand scheme of dodges production lines, does it really make sense to put money & R&D into making a new production line specifically for a v10 configuration given they predominately deal with v8s and 4c inline engines? In a business sense it would be a very big and inefficient cost that would be hard to justify even if the company really did want to do it for the sake of love for the racing. The only argument is that a race winning car will do them massive favours commercially and could make the Viper profitable, but then GT racing isn't exactly the most popular sport in the world, it doesn't exactly reach the mainstream in the way F1 does for example. How much prestige would a race winning Viper really earn them in the wider world in comparison what they're every day road car business earns them? Perhaps if they plopped a V8 in the viper they could consider it but then I think the weight decrease and torque decrease probably wouldn't work with the car anyway. I think overall it would be a slower package than the corvettes for example, just because of the vipers quite unique size and shape, it's not the ideal shape if you think about it from an engineering perspective. I think it kinda needs the V10 to over compensate for its chassis weakness. I mean the differences would be tiny on the roads but in gt racing pushing it to the peak of it's abilities, I think ultimately it wouldn't end up being a race winning car anyway haha. It's kinda sad lol, I wish we could bring back the v10 era cars so bad :(
@@justamanchimpand not just a big ass inefficient v10, a PUSHROD engine still too. At the end of the day it’d be an insane investment both financially and logically for a car that is the antithesis of what regulations are pushing towards now. CARB compliance and all that
@@justamanchimp So much wrong here. Trying to find something correct. Okay, I'll agree with the last sentence. That's all you get. You obviously live no where near Detroit and the manufacturing plant on Warren Ave. and know no one, engineers, designers, line workers, who worked on the project nor have you owned nor driven the product. Your only caveat in your rant is that you say "I think the reason is..." before you rant. Your only positive is the sunburst Les Paul in your profile picture. Stick to music and leave the car stuff to the people who know what they're talking about.
What a lot of people forget is that by the year 2000 as shown here, the Vipers had to have air restrictors which vastly limited their former horsepower. Prior to this restriction, when they could run open like other cars, they were the dominant force in both GT2 and LeMans.
Don’t forget that along with the heavy air restrictions they also made them run skinnier tires which of course affected its dominance. Meanwhile they allowed Chevy to run a non-production 7 liter engine and a bunch of chassis upgrades while handicapping the snakes. Probably one of the reasons why Chrysler pulled out. I get it though. The series wants competition and the Viper naturally has advantages so to try to equalize things they felt they had to do what they did. Every major series the Vipers has run in, from back in the day to now, it has been heavily restricted to fit into the regs of the particular series. That of course goes to all cars but I don’t know of too many other cars that were handicapped to such great extents.k
@@snakebitten6967 now the corvettes are being restricted to make it easier on Ford. Every since they gave the Corvette more weight etc the Ford GT has been dominant
What's funny is that the Vipers are still visibly quicker in the corners even with skinnier tires. The body is just better performing out of the box. Having the engine and driver so far behind the front axle is impeccable design for good cornering.
I was there. I remember being pissed off because of the rule change that season. The vipers basically had one hand tied behind their backs. GM had a TON of influence with the governing body and pulled a Ferrari- they threatened to leave the championship if the rules weren’t changed in their favor. The vipers then had massive air intake restrictors added which cut their horsepower dramatically, making it more “fair”…. Can’t remember if this was the year JJ Lhetto had the blow over here, coming over the crest on the back straight.
That is the reason I don't watch organized racing of any time, the powers that be get paid off. If they can put government rules on game shows than the government need to put rules on racing. With stiff sentences
Some of my favorite cars in Gran Turismo 4 on the PS2...I got one of the $2700 HD Tube TVs that you could play in 1080i or 720p...one of the few HD games made for PS2.
The Corvette had to breathe through a couple tiny little restrictors, too...especially once the Vette team bumped up to the 427 to keep pace with the Viper. Mind you, the Viper had an 8.0L engine where the C5R originally had a 6.0L. Both had to perform well short of the full capabilities of their engines, however.
@@94XJ yes but they let Chevy cheat. There was no 6-7 liter street Vette according to homologation rules. And they let the Vette have wider tires than Viper. Point being, it would not have been equal or close if the Viper wasn’t more handicapped and they actually followed the homologation rules. Reminds me of BMW v8 m3 GTR. None existed yet as a road car yet they allowed. Both Vette and Viper were killers tho. Miss this era vbadly. Miss the thunderous 7 liter Vette engine. What a masterpiece of sound and aural presence. Loved the Snakes engine note too but that 7 liter raised the hairs on your neck while shaking your organs like an earthquake when it went by. I like the new c8r but it can’t touch the 7 liter imho.
@@jeremywhittington7605 Definitely cheaply made and poor Big 3 quality but you gotta admit the GTS was sex on wheels back in the mid-90's...and dare I say aged gracefully. I had a poster as a teen of one in the fantastic blue with white stripe combo.
@@jeremywhittington7605 idgaf what ppl say about the viper, i want an ACR in my life before it is completely wiped from existence. I honestly wish in an alternate timeline they didnt restrict the viper as bad as they did in 2013...vipers would still be made today.
@@xnotasweatx lol, I know, sarcasm is hard to pick up via RUclips comments, I suppose. I was being sarcastic about it sounding like a Corvette because it does indeed have a LS Corvette engine.
@@jesterokjones4954 where are you guys getting LS from. The panoz lmp-1 had a Elan 6L8 engine developed in partner with Roush-Yates. The block was derived from a ford windsor that used ford modular type overhead cam cylinder heads. Nothing about it was chevy LS. The later Panoz GT cars used a ford based race engine as well.
@@Orcawhale1 LMPs run in the same class as GTLM cars? News to me. American car. American car. American car. American car like I said. With that impeccable logic every race car is a different nationality when they get worked on apparently. I guess all the announcers that say things like the Italian car makers or German car makers or American car makers are just ignorant to your logic. If you want to go on with that then most of those parts are likely Chinese made, so every race car team is Chinese apparently. You don't like American cars just say that next time.
@@seanwalters1977 No, but there's a thing known as overall victory. And as for ignorance, well that's very much you. The Viper in question isn't american, or driven by American's, so no. And if a Ferrari was modified to same lengths, then it wouldn't be italian, either. Nor are they chinese made, not even close. Your the ignorant one, as evidenced by the sheer stupidity of you..
Dale Sr and Dale Jr both drove the #3 GTS-classed Corvette in the 2001 Rolex Daytona 24, finishing second in class. The #2 Corvette won the GTS class. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_24_Hours_of_Daytona
Speedvision :) took some effort but remember when finally got this channel (and a TiVo lol) and started watching the motorsports i could only read about in Autosport magazine. And for anyone under 25 - no the internet and RUclips didn’t always exist!
I remember watching this race live. I also remember when the C5-R joined the GT1 championship. Viper was king back then and Chevy gave them a good fight. Always supported the big bad snake of course. Later Ferrari joined and kicked both their asses. A few years later the series was canceled.
@@StarChaser027 I mean… Corvette was the only GTS/GT1 for a lot of years in the ALMS and Ferrari never really had a factory presence in GT1. Now if we’re talking about GT2/GTE/GTLM, Ferrari has more titles
I remember when I was young I played with my brother Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec on PS2 and I have chosen the Corvette C5r and he had Viper GTs-R . I always have won , even my bro is 7 years older than me .
@@markpatterson7828 "BOP, Balance of Performance" is what ruins racing events, look at nascar its been trash since restrictor plates were introduced and the drivers have never been ok with it. Not like it matters nascar died when dale Earnhardt died
@@markpatterson7828 problem is it was aimed at the vipers 8.0 litres limit ONLY affected vipers hence later ones lost 2 cylinders directly aimed at vipers as they were able to beat some prototypes and keep up with bog brand gt1 cars..
I remenber getting into converstation with a gentlemen about his Viper in comparrison to my Corvette at the time. He said to me, "If you think you Corvette is more fun than a Viper, then you have never driven a Viper." It kind of pissed me off. I thouhgt, "who the does this guy think he is?" I have since have had three Vipers and I have to agree now. However, I am still very much a fan of Corvettes. Except the C7.
I find it funny how the Corvette is punted (Which happens a LOT) and doesn't retort or seek vengeance, whereas if you bump the Viper, it bites you back real quick
which is why nobody pushed the viper off the track you notice how other drivers keep distance? it's also a really heavy car so a prototype pushing a viper would be a death sentence of flying into the air and being put out of commission or maybe they just liked the viper more
Viper's have always been ahead of Corvette with performance and looks. Corvettes are just plane jane looking. Vipers are exotic and attention grabbing.
Nah, you just have misguided taste. The Corvette is one of the finest looking cars and does just as good, if not better than your Viper there buddy. Although I won't deny, the Viper is an exotic and gorgeous car, a truly worthy opponent for the Corvette.
@@kirkyturki1546 agree to disagree. You cant lie though having a bright red ACR 2017 with the signature side thick black and thin red racing stripes with its big gigantic wing and the side exhausts is still the coolest looking american super car in modern history.
No automaker went far on a sport scar as dodge did with the viper ! Of course they could do better and implement better technology because the viper package was extremely basic ...... instead they decide to put an end to the icon !
You can thank the FIAT for this. The Viper was direct competition for the front engined Ferrari models, at much cheaper prices. FIAT had its fun in starving then shutting down every racing division that was not Ferrari, having the SRT Viper in production was already a little miracle in itself if you ask me, since FIAT bought Chrysler some time before the SRT was released.
Captain FALKEN LOL, 8 Le Mans Championships in 12 years 10 ALMS Championships in 13 years, plus now two IMSA championships.. The Corvette is now the best sports car, no matter how you slice it.
Man I miss these days. The different variations of engine packages was great. Nowadays everything seems to be 4 liters. Nothing particularly wrong with 4 liters but everybody.... $HIT has become boring.
The best America has to offer for about $100,000! Awesome Machines! Where is ford to answer? Why not offer an affordable Super car like Dodge and Chevy? I'd love to see something cool from Ford.
The viper is the most underrated track car ever built. 2017 still holds the record at 7:01 with more room to go if dodge would have sent more support it would be the only american production car ever in the 6s around the nurb n/a rwd. Engineers we apreciate your hard work us viper lovers would give you a pat on the back
So the powers that be screwed the GTS with the track time to give GM the edge. I wonder how much that cost GM. That is the reason I'm turned off to any organization racing. To much of a chance for the organization to get paid off.
I was entering the high way in my C5 and i saw a second gen viper flying up the fast lane and as i entered the highway i tried to catch him and cruise with him but i hit 100 still on the entry ramp and he blew by me like i was sitting still
Viper vs Vette. These cars were animals!
Fun fact the real first American Corvette was actually a small War vessel
@@MIIIVideo ok
@@MIIIVideo actually I think that the war corvettes were originally from the UK
@@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 interesting
Yeah they sure were, but the Viper is king and proved it when it set 13 records in 2016. Which is more than any vehicle in automotive racing history. Since that time, I believe that the vett recaptured one of them and think that it was at Laguna Seca. But that was just one, is a long way to go for anyone to take the title or even match it and rules the blacktop
This is the story that disappointed so many people , when without warning , when in 2017 Viper pulled the plug and that was it ...
Even though I have owned 3 different Vipers , I had been planning on buying a
New Viper in 2020 , which had been rumored to come with a stock 1000 hp engine
Convertible supercharged or Turbo d with alot of speculated options
or the new Ones.
Writing on the wall for dodge/chrysler.
This is great.
Nostalgia
it is so sad what the gts class did to the viper they made so many rules to get the viper off the track
I didn't write this but it sums up the Viper's legacy:
"The Viper is The Most Awarded international track car in the history of the world.
It was production dropped straight onto a barge to Germany from dealership...then straight onto the track at green hell track, plastic covering still cover dash, stereo, guages, seats.
The Italians and Germans laughed at it in 1996, said it was a bad American joke, then they all got scared in June 1996 when it made it's first trial run.
Porsche supposedly regrouped that night and changed out at least one driver and modified suspension specifically, for heading into the hole at turns.
The viper was inspired by Carl Shelby while he was earlier working with them before contracting with Ford again. His greatest regret was not developing an all American (no British AC car) production Shelby (Cobra/Daytona). The GTS is a New Shelby Daytona.... Period. Look up the side by sides.
The viper is 100% handmade, hand painted, hand assembled, etc. No factory line. The viper was never made at dodge....made by less then 75 individuals working at Team Viper 70 Miles from dodge plant.
They made more corvettes in 2014 then every single viper built from 1992-2017.
Still today, a ln almost 30 year old viper GTS can take-on on most every single production sports car made today, especially on a true track. They are geared totally differently and the torque produced works with it.
The Viper is Americas Ferrari. Time will tell this to be true only when it is over sadly. They only make so made a handful of Ford GTs, even those were out of reach of a normal American to own.
The viper is not cheap, but still can be easily afforded. And best of all ...as Jay Leno says...they are absolutely bulletproof and need very little servicing.
I have owned 5 vipers, I still have my 2000 GTS steel grey stripe delete with factory optioned brown "Connelly" importer Italian hand sewn for the handmade seats, by humans, right here in the United States.
Search for "Viper at green hell" on RUclips. At the end of the day... the viper struck fear and pushed performance of every single European track car. In short, Europeans laughed until the fear transitioned to the tears.
Merica' made a car to hit the corners at gforce speed and enough torque to escape the hole coming out.
Porsche had turbo lag and corners were not the strongest. The viper had 355 tires that stuck the turn with a mammoth engine, slammed into a snake head design car that weighed as much as a new beetle, and high gearing to bypass shifts. If you could hold on to the steering wheel, the viper could make any turn at higher speeds. Trick to vipers, they are rigid frames and geared differently. You can't rpm match and downshift to 3rd gear on highway ...or downshift while in the turn itself. If you want to burn rubber downshifting while cruising at 80 mph...she will let you. Like a good bad girlfriend, her answer is always yes and how much "
When the Corvette came along, the Motorsport started to evolve, those who couldn't afford to evolve (the Vipers for example) couldn't keep up thus eventually being left behind. Very much like life.
When you say Corvette you mean the car that was made by someone other than Chevy and made to look like a Corvette...
Gran Turismo 3.
Two iconic sounds at Le Mans, the growling thunder of the Corvette and the gurgling rumble of the Viper.
amazing!
Can you not say gurgling 😂
@@mrcontroversy222 i also miss those sounds from Gran Turismo 3 and 4. The old GT PS2 days. They sounded like jewel.
@@jonathandunn9495 more like gleg gleg gleg gleg. 😂
a Panoz Esperante GTR1 would blow both out of the water with sound.
I really wish dodge would have kept up with the viper program, such a great gt car. They really kept dropping the ball with this car. Now they only care about massive horse power in a straight line.
They gave up bc ppl stopped buying them
Personally, I believe it was their marketing strategy for the car, they should have gone in a different direction
I agree, though I think the reason is because the car is uneconomical and difficult to manufacturer giving it's a 6.2l V10. Not a lot of people want to buy them in this day and age even if they've got the money. In the grand scheme of dodges production lines, does it really make sense to put money & R&D into making a new production line specifically for a v10 configuration given they predominately deal with v8s and 4c inline engines? In a business sense it would be a very big and inefficient cost that would be hard to justify even if the company really did want to do it for the sake of love for the racing.
The only argument is that a race winning car will do them massive favours commercially and could make the Viper profitable, but then GT racing isn't exactly the most popular sport in the world, it doesn't exactly reach the mainstream in the way F1 does for example. How much prestige would a race winning Viper really earn them in the wider world in comparison what they're every day road car business earns them?
Perhaps if they plopped a V8 in the viper they could consider it but then I think the weight decrease and torque decrease probably wouldn't work with the car anyway. I think overall it would be a slower package than the corvettes for example, just because of the vipers quite unique size and shape, it's not the ideal shape if you think about it from an engineering perspective. I think it kinda needs the V10 to over compensate for its chassis weakness. I mean the differences would be tiny on the roads but in gt racing pushing it to the peak of it's abilities, I think ultimately it wouldn't end up being a race winning car anyway haha. It's kinda sad lol, I wish we could bring back the v10 era cars so bad :(
@@justamanchimpand not just a big ass inefficient v10, a PUSHROD engine still too. At the end of the day it’d be an insane investment both financially and logically for a car that is the antithesis of what regulations are pushing towards now. CARB compliance and all that
@@justamanchimp So much wrong here. Trying to find something correct. Okay, I'll agree with the last sentence. That's all you get. You obviously live no where near Detroit and the manufacturing plant on Warren Ave. and know no one, engineers, designers, line workers, who worked on the project nor have you owned nor driven the product. Your only caveat in your rant is that you say "I think the reason is..." before you rant. Your only positive is the sunburst Les Paul in your profile picture. Stick to music and leave the car stuff to the people who know what they're talking about.
Man... Dodge Vipers in race trim will NEVER get old
The real Le Mans gran turismo 3 kinds
What a lot of people forget is that by the year 2000 as shown here, the Vipers had to have air restrictors which vastly limited their former horsepower. Prior to this restriction, when they could run open like other cars, they were the dominant force in both GT2 and LeMans.
I know the comment is very old yt oh, well... Were the air restrictors brought in after GT2 became GT1 or did GT2 always have them but larger ?
Don’t forget that along with the heavy air restrictions they also made them run skinnier tires which of course affected its dominance. Meanwhile they allowed Chevy to run a non-production 7 liter engine and a bunch of chassis upgrades while handicapping the snakes. Probably one of the reasons why Chrysler pulled out.
I get it though. The series wants competition and the Viper naturally has advantages so to try to equalize things they felt they had to do what they did. Every major series the Vipers has run in, from back in the day to now, it has been heavily restricted to fit into the regs of the particular series. That of course goes to all cars but I don’t know of too many other cars that were handicapped to such great extents.k
@@snakebitten6967 now the corvettes are being restricted to make it easier on Ford. Every since they gave the Corvette more weight etc the Ford GT has been dominant
@@snakebitten6967 Audi TransAm
What's funny is that the Vipers are still visibly quicker in the corners even with skinnier tires. The body is just better performing out of the box. Having the engine and driver so far behind the front axle is impeccable design for good cornering.
Man it looked good back in those days! GT racing has always truly been superb!
And always far better than NASCAR 2020s seasons. Bar none.
@@purwantiallan5089 bar that one pass where the guy used the wall for extra cornering force
This was racing in its purest forms, both American classics now. Not really sure which one looks better
That’s why Formula 1 is considered trash by other people. GT and PROTOTYPE racing is just that nostalgic and good.
So they have nothing close to this today?
I was there. I remember being pissed off because of the rule change that season. The vipers basically had one hand tied behind their backs. GM had a TON of influence with the governing body and pulled a Ferrari- they threatened to leave the championship if the rules weren’t changed in their favor. The vipers then had massive air intake restrictors added which cut their horsepower dramatically, making it more “fair”…. Can’t remember if this was the year JJ Lhetto had the blow over here, coming over the crest on the back straight.
GM’s playbook since nascar. If you can’t beat them, drag them to your level.
That is the reason I don't watch organized racing of any time, the powers that be get paid off. If they can put government rules on game shows than the government need to put rules on racing. With stiff sentences
Don't know about all that, but it did make for good racing like this one. Together for the whole race. Who wants to watch a 1 car beatdown.
The 7 liter V8 C5R motor breathed through two 31mm restrictors. The Viper motor was an 8 liter V10.
Huh? If all cars get the same air restrictions, how would that not be fair?
Some of my favorite cars in Gran Turismo 4 on the PS2...I got one of the $2700 HD Tube TVs that you could play in 1080i or 720p...one of the few HD games made for PS2.
The Audi R8 LM... Gran Turismo Memories.
I miss the Viper vs. Corvette
These were the best racecars hands down. I remember watching these as a kid which lead me to my 03 c5z06. Best life decision ever.
Just think, you had to remove 20% of the Viper output to keep the Vette "competitive" lol. Viper all day!
The Corvette had to breathe through a couple tiny little restrictors, too...especially once the Vette team bumped up to the 427 to keep pace with the Viper. Mind you, the Viper had an 8.0L engine where the C5R originally had a 6.0L. Both had to perform well short of the full capabilities of their engines, however.
@@94XJ yes but they let Chevy cheat. There was no 6-7 liter street Vette according to homologation rules. And they let the Vette have wider tires than Viper. Point being, it would not have been equal or close if the Viper wasn’t more handicapped and they actually followed the homologation rules. Reminds me of BMW v8 m3 GTR. None existed yet as a road car yet they allowed. Both Vette and Viper were killers tho. Miss this era vbadly.
Miss the thunderous 7 liter Vette engine. What a masterpiece of sound and aural presence. Loved the Snakes engine note too but that 7 liter raised the hairs on your neck while shaking your organs like an earthquake when it went by. I like the new c8r but it can’t touch the 7 liter imho.
Viper has always been a pos of a vehicle
@@jeremywhittington7605
Definitely cheaply made and poor Big 3 quality but you gotta admit the GTS was sex on wheels back in the mid-90's...and dare I say aged gracefully. I had a poster as a teen of one in the fantastic blue with white stripe combo.
@@jeremywhittington7605 idgaf what ppl say about the viper, i want an ACR in my life before it is completely wiped from existence. I honestly wish in an alternate timeline they didnt restrict the viper as bad as they did in 2013...vipers would still be made today.
That Panoz LMP...😳😳😳
What a sound...
Yessir! Almost like the Vette, eh?
@@jesterokjones4954 it’s actually got a tuned up LS
@@xnotasweatx lol, I know, sarcasm is hard to pick up via RUclips comments, I suppose. I was being sarcastic about it sounding like a Corvette because it does indeed have a LS Corvette engine.
@@jesterokjones4954 where are you guys getting LS from. The panoz lmp-1 had a Elan 6L8 engine developed in partner with Roush-Yates. The block was derived from a ford windsor that used ford modular type overhead cam cylinder heads. Nothing about it was chevy LS. The later Panoz GT cars used a ford based race engine as well.
@@fsca72 Because some Panoz models do indeed use GM, LS series, I assumed this was too.
Makes me proud to be a Viper owner
rip to the Viper (again)
@@dumbdumb572 it's getting the heads and cam treatment
Lucky you! 👍🏻
You’re proud because you bought a car?
@@Kyle899 yes
Whichever car you prefer, still nice seeing top 5 cars being American leaving the Euros in the dust. Restrictions made them competitive again.
Except the top 5 cars are all LMP prototypes.
Also the Viper wasn't American, it was run by Team Oreca which is French, who rebuilt it their own.
@@Orcawhale1 LMPs run in the same class as GTLM cars? News to me. American car. American car. American car. American car like I said. With that impeccable logic every race car is a different nationality when they get worked on apparently. I guess all the announcers that say things like the Italian car makers or German car makers or American car makers are just ignorant to your logic.
If you want to go on with that then most of those parts are likely Chinese made, so every race car team is Chinese apparently.
You don't like American cars just say that next time.
@@Orcawhale1 Sean’s 100% right. You saying this just makes you sound ignorant mate..
@@seanwalters1977 No, but there's a thing known as overall victory.
And as for ignorance, well that's very much you.
The Viper in question isn't american, or driven by American's, so no.
And if a Ferrari was modified to same lengths, then it wouldn't be italian, either.
Nor are they chinese made, not even close.
Your the ignorant one, as evidenced by the sheer stupidity of you..
@@alexdelta57 I don't care, what you may think. It don't make you true, or accurate.
This is the beginning of the corvette racing domination
Donnie johnson Too bad the vipers we're put on restrictions when it came back. It might of been a different outcome.
@@rogeroliver3919 were*
@@CicaeMeow really dude
@@rogeroliver3919 mate come on. We are= we're and were is were. I'm not even English and I know your grammar better....
@@CicaeMeow I know grammar have you ever heard of auto correct.
Remember watching viper vs listerstorm gt1 and the mighty TVR speed 12 😍
I wish we could've seen Dale Earnhardt in the #3 C5R. He was looking REALLY fast in testing at Daytona
i thought about wrapping mine to be the same as the one he drove for Rolex 24 in 01
no
@@0Heeroyuy01 that would be beautiful! DO IT FOR DALE!!
Dale Sr and Dale Jr both drove the #3 GTS-classed Corvette in the 2001 Rolex Daytona 24, finishing second in class. The #2 Corvette won the GTS class.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_24_Hours_of_Daytona
@@wzpu3283 you can find a videos on youtube for the race, its one of those things that i wish both Sr and Jr would have done besides nascar.
Beautiful days, today it's all so regulated by FIA even in US.
Wow. Speedvision. Throwback. I was 12 years old watchig these races.
Speedvision :) took some effort but remember when finally got this channel (and a TiVo lol) and started watching the motorsports i could only read about in Autosport magazine. And for anyone under 25 - no the internet and RUclips didn’t always exist!
Damn I miss that Speedvision! 😭
@@KericoTube hahahah I know right, with no smartphones we might as well have been living 2 million years ago!
I miss these GTS days
TEAM ORECA VS CORVETTE RACING
THE THUNDERING EXHAUSTS
I miss Speedvision
1:36
That right there is what the viper was built to do, take corners faster than the next guy
Take corners? I thought the Viper was the fastest "Fuck you" in the world, not a circuit demon...
@@ITSMRFOXY It has more track records than any production car in the world
I remember watching this race live. I also remember when the C5-R joined the GT1 championship. Viper was king back then and Chevy gave them a good fight. Always supported the big bad snake of course. Later Ferrari joined and kicked both their asses. A few years later the series was canceled.
GT1 changes the rules bc the American cars were so dominant
Ferrari didn't win as much class titles as Corvette from 1999-2021
@@StarChaser027 I mean… Corvette was the only GTS/GT1 for a lot of years in the ALMS and Ferrari never really had a factory presence in GT1. Now if we’re talking about GT2/GTE/GTLM, Ferrari has more titles
Every other car class is literally saying “Holy Shit, It’s Viper!”😂😂😂😂
This period of GT racing is so iconic, thanks for sharing.
I remember when I was young I played with my brother Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec on PS2 and I have chosen the Corvette C5r and he had Viper GTs-R . I always have won , even my bro is 7 years older than me .
from this point on vipers were either...banned from some series, or restricted with balast or intake restrictors etc oh well...
Gazza 'rafale mozzy' yep. Effectively relegating then to midpack or back markers. Don’t blame Chrysler for pulling out after seeing the trend.
Every single car in the ALMS, and their current series, IMSA, is affected by restrictions. It's called BOP, Balance of Performance.
@@markpatterson7828 "BOP, Balance of Performance"
is what ruins racing events, look at nascar its been trash since restrictor plates were introduced and the drivers have never been ok with it.
Not like it matters nascar died when dale Earnhardt died
Yes, ballast and intake restrictors have been a thing in endurance racing since mid to late group c.
@@markpatterson7828 problem is it was aimed at the vipers 8.0 litres limit ONLY affected vipers hence later ones lost 2 cylinders directly aimed at vipers as they were able to beat some prototypes and keep up with bog brand gt1 cars..
Those c5rs sounded supreme. C6rs close but not quite.
Bro them vipers absolutely walk past the vettes
Gran Turismo 3
NubletPie202 and Gran Turismo 3 and 4
Yessssss
What if this Viper was in Gran Turismo Sport
3
It is actually 3 lol, edited 👍
Viper ACR is the fastest Coupe ever produced from the USA. Look up the records if you don't believe me. Still standing.
was*
@@actually5004 And still the fastest manual transmission car at nurrrrburg.
@@triple6758 Not if you include manually actuated sequential transmissions.
@@actually5004 those are in a league of their own
we're talking sloppy shift knobs and delayed gear changes here
@@ManLikeEddy It's obviously not a real manual unless it has straight cut gears and no synchros.
Here again waiting for Nijiyon Animation in 2023. Me too miss those sounds of the cars that ever appeared in GRAN TURISMO 3 & 4. 😭
The viper and corvette (these ones in particular) look soooooooo American
the c5s and 6s were so loud, you can't even hear the viper when they're dueling
a Panoz Esperante GTR1 was even louder
Those vipers were very quiet
I remenber getting into converstation with a gentlemen about his Viper in comparrison to my Corvette at the time. He said to me, "If you think you Corvette is more fun than a Viper, then you have never driven a Viper." It kind of pissed me off. I thouhgt, "who the does this guy think he is?" I have since have had three Vipers and I have to agree now. However, I am still very much a fan of Corvettes. Except the C7.
What's your take on the C7?
C7 is the best Vette out there.
c7_whiteghost -Triggered C8 Noises-
If you don't like the C7 (which is not my favorite too) I am curious what you think of the C8... 😢
The good ol days. Grew up watching these cars. Even in person at limerock park
Finally the YT algorithm understood my needs.
I find it funny how the Corvette is punted (Which happens a LOT) and doesn't retort or seek vengeance, whereas if you bump the Viper, it bites you back real quick
which is why nobody pushed the viper off the track
you notice how other drivers keep distance? it's also a really heavy car so a prototype pushing a viper would be a death sentence of flying into the air and being put out of commission
or maybe they just liked the viper more
@@ManLikeEddy Tbf if your driving a viper your clearly not afraid of death. So the other drivers stay away because of that.
@@0Synergy the racing version handled way better than most people expected but in real life putting a chrysler viper on a track would take some balls
Viper's have always been ahead of Corvette with performance and looks. Corvettes are just plane jane looking. Vipers are exotic and attention grabbing.
Nah, you just have misguided taste. The Corvette is one of the finest looking cars and does just as good, if not better than your Viper there buddy. Although I won't deny, the Viper is an exotic and gorgeous car, a truly worthy opponent for the Corvette.
@@kirkyturki1546 agree to disagree. You cant lie though having a bright red ACR 2017 with the signature side thick black and thin red racing stripes with its big gigantic wing and the side exhausts is still the coolest looking american super car in modern history.
@@quanage4296 Yeah you got me, I cannot lie, those Vipers look so freaking awesome and slick. They genuinely look like a Viper, which is AWESOME.
@@kirkyturki1546 Probably my favorite gen of vipers, my god is that car sexy.
Sickens me still that Chrysler stopped the Vipers 😡
Fiats fault for throwing all what chrysler had away for ferrari
Gran turismo 4 version Remastered
I just love how Polyphony honored these cars legacy in Gran Turismo 3, my favorite racing game as a kid and seeing this video puts a smile on my face
O'boy, these red & yellow master pieces, they make you heart flutter.
Much obliged for sharing.
No automaker went far on a sport scar as dodge did with the viper !
Of course they could do better and implement better technology because the viper package was extremely basic ...... instead they decide to put an end to the icon !
You can thank the FIAT for this.
The Viper was direct competition for the front engined Ferrari models, at much cheaper prices. FIAT had its fun in starving then shutting down every racing division that was not Ferrari, having the SRT Viper in production was already a little miracle in itself if you ask me, since FIAT bought Chrysler some time before the SRT was released.
@@il-ma.le. i wish they let SRT be. I can imagine them souping up the Rams next like what dodge did with the 1500 in the early 2000s. I hate fiat.
I really wish the c5 was in Gran turismo
Love my c5s but always loved viper
Ketchup vs mustart lmao
03:35 So Dylan is 23 by now :D
Gran Turismo 4
Oh man, I miss this! Speedvision channel and all!
Man I miss speedvision! This is how I learned English back in the day!
Nice!
From this race on, Corvette has kept its leadership, becoming the most dominant sportscar in the world on race tracks and on the street..
The cheapest and most common you mean
Captain FALKEN LOL, 8 Le Mans Championships in 12 years 10 ALMS Championships in 13 years, plus now two IMSA championships..
The Corvette is now the best sports car, no matter how you slice it.
Cute
Captain FALKEN If I recall, the Falken Tire Porsche team put its tail between its legs and left in haste after constantly loosing to Corvettes
and yet you own no sports car of any value ;) (*losing to drivers)
Now the viper is dead, and the corvette is mid engine. Viper forever
Now that viper is dead and corvette is mid engine corvette forever
Andy Pilgrim is the man
childhood memories !!
God knows how many times I've watched this. TQ for uploading
Gran Turismo 3 vibes
I miss speedvision
The C5r got competitve when they went from a 6.0 to a 7.0, right?
Gran Turismo 3 nostalgia kicks in….🥲
Golden age
I miss this
Beautiful cars. Loved racing them in Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec.
To me these were the "good ol days" of GT/S/3 racing
Random thought rn - Dodge should make a V10 entry for the hypercar class at Le Mans/GTP
How did they manage such small grilles?
Man I miss these days. The different variations of engine packages was great. Nowadays everything seems to be 4 liters. Nothing particularly wrong with 4 liters but everybody.... $HIT has become boring.
that car "drop-kicked" the vette off the track lol
The best America has to offer for about $100,000! Awesome Machines! Where is ford to answer? Why not offer an affordable Super car like Dodge and Chevy? I'd love to see something cool from Ford.
Can you believe this was the beginning of the end for racing Vipers...🔴🔴🏁🇺🇸🔴🔴
The viper is the most underrated track car ever built. 2017 still holds the record at 7:01 with more room to go if dodge would have sent more support it would be the only american production car ever in the 6s around the nurb n/a rwd. Engineers we apreciate your hard work us viper lovers would give you a pat on the back
American V8 and V10 battling for dominance and supremacy
I remember the days. I miss the sounds alone. What a time
I drove those vipers and vettes in GT3 (gran turismo 3) back in 01/02
The world was a better place when Vipers were being manufactured.
2:07 ...and that is why multiclass racing SUCKS !!!
So the powers that be screwed the GTS with the track time to give GM the edge. I wonder how much that cost GM. That is the reason I'm turned off to any organization racing. To much of a chance for the organization to get paid off.
The best sounding cars of that era
The c5r headlights look amazing, almost looks japanese. Wish the c5 came with these
And Gran Turismo, but in real life, unfortunately it is not a game 🇧🇷🇧🇷
I miss the days of turning on the tv and watching races like this
My favorite cars are Dodge and whoever is racing against a Corvette.
I was entering the high way in my C5 and i saw a second gen viper flying up the fast lane and as i entered the highway i tried to catch him and cruise with him but i hit 100 still on the entry ramp and he blew by me like i was sitting still
LMAO, what gen/year Viper was it?
@@jesterokjones4954 second gen white with blue stripes
100 won't do it
Because you don’t own a Z06.
Fantastic stuff. Great commentary and the SOUND. Ohhh the sound.
Its hard to drive a Viper
Thanks youtube! Top recommendation 🤘🏻
Glad this was in my recommended. :)
no other type of Viper/Corvette will ever be iconic as these 2
Agreed, although the Camaro and Mustang rivalry is iconic too
just counting Gran Turismo comments, don't mind me
My goodness does the world need Vipers back...
Thus series was awesome in this early 2000s