The washer is not meant to be left on when using a suppressor. "Remove the cap and the wave washer under the cap and store them in a safe place for reinstallation when the suppressor is removed." - from the manual.
I just picked up a used one of these Ruger Mark IV 43909. How do they last the test of time> I know this particular model is going on 6yrs old now. Gun shop said it's solid & they have a warranty.
I'm sure it's already been said, but the TANDOMKROSS thumb rest safety lever solves the issue with the thumb accidentally riding up the standard safety lever while firing.
I just picked up a used one of these Ruger Mark IV 43909. How do they last the test of time> I know this particular model is going on 6yrs old now. Gun shop said it's solid & they have a warranty.
I just picked up a used one of these Ruger Mark IV 43909. How do they last the test of time? I know this particular model is going on 6yrs old now. Gun shop said it's solid & they have a warranty.
Great review of this pistol. I realize that this video is several years old. Which 22LR pistol do you find to be the most accurate that is not a designated target pistol, something that is reasonably priced?
Thanks for the video! Is the targets at 70 feet shot standing, with one hand or two? And how do you compare the Ruger with the S&W MP 22? (is it the compact you have?)
Man, you have solved my problem!!! I installed the Volquartsen kit and then had problems with the pistol sometimes not wanting to fire. I was ready to send my pistol to Volquartsen then I found your video that covered the exact problem that I was having. I did not know that my grip was sometimes pushing up on the safety until after watching the video, I caught myself doing it! Now I know that the problem was me and not the gun! Great catch!!! Now a question... Does the holes in the side of the ruger barrel (vent holes?) make it any louder using a suppressor compared to a barrel without the holes?Thanks!
*Hopefully you mentioned it to Ruger, because talking about it does nothing other then alerting us to the issue.* *We've already sent an email about the problem...waiting to hear back...*
Good question. I cycled over two dozen of the most popular brands of 22 LR ammo through it and not one problem due to ammo. You can run "quiet" sub-sonics as well but you have to manually cycle after each round. So far so good. In my experience keeping most "good" 22LR pistols clean has more of an impact on reliability than the ammo maker. The fact that they made the Mark IV's so easy to disassemble and clean means I am less concerned about to ammo types I run through this pistol...which is the way it should be. Thanks!
Yea man these things run almost anything. The only ammos Ive had problems with are the NEWER Aguila Super Extras, Standard Velocity and High Velocity. Pretty much any of the Super Extras that say Aguila Prime. The ones that are sold in the old boxes and say Eley Prime actually worked great tho. Idk why they stopped using Eley to prime their cartridges, they worked great back then.
J Pyron running CCI Mini mag and Remington Subsonic, mine cycles fine (zero issues on subsonic). I have also run Winchester and several of the others also available at Walmart; in the 222, 333 and 555, etc boxes (or whatever they are exactly called). I have found that shooting LEAD bullets causes a quicker build up of lead in the rifling of the barrel and the bullets begin to keyhole around 500 or so (maybe even 100 more) without cleaning. So cleaning looks like something I need to stay on top of when approaching 500 rounds at the range. With that noted, I am shooting more of the Copper coated bullet choices and I am definitely seeing less buildup of lead fouling (so these ammo choices are becoming a bullets of choice). Great pistol. Also be sure to blue loctite the upper rail Allen screws and the rear sight leaf windage drift Allen wrench screws - I checked mine after 600 rounds during the first range visit - and they were all lose (learning curve on my part to stop trusting Manufactures).
As with other Mark IV 22/45 videos and including the suppressor...WHICH ONE IS IT?!? I'm sure there are a myriad of manufacturers, but every video I see, they say here's a suppressor...then don't identify which one it is!! :O
Do you like the feel and accuracy better for the regular Ruger Mark IV, or the Mark IV Lite 22/45? I like the light feel of it but was wondering if you are sacrificing by going light? I also liked the feel ( in a sporting goods store, not actual shooting) of the Browning Buckmark, and it was a lot less expensive. Still a little heavy, but the Browning .22 seemed to balance the weight better in my hand, and the grip was kind of nice too. As it stands, I am choosing between the Ruger Mark IV Lite, and the Browning Buckmark. I was going to buy the S and W Victory, but it was heavy for me and it didn't feel as good in my hand....but is a great price on sale now. Also, Can you recommend a red dot less than 200.00 that is okay? thanks!
Drummergirl 9, I bought a MK iv lite this year and with over 5,000 rounds through it already, I can tell you I love it. Out of what you are thinking of buying, I strongly recommend you get a MK IV. The biggest reason being, how easy it is to clean. With 22 ammo, it can be very destructive to your pistol if you neglect to clean it as most 22 ammo is somewhat corrosive. Especially between the breach face and the bolt. I believe the MK iv to be the easiest 22 to field strip in existence. Which means you’re likely to make sure you clean it. Other reasons to pick the MK IV is the upgradeability, which is limitless. But really it’s fine stock too. It is very accurate. As to which MK IV to get here are my thoughts which may provide some insight for you. Generally the heavier a pistol is, the easier it is to hold steady and to not disturb the gun as you pull the trigger. Really lightweight guns can sometimes seem a bit “squirrelly” and they seem to shake in the hand a bit more. This can translate into more accuracy, especially for beginners. Also a longer barrel will have a similar effect. So if you want to choose a pistol that is that is the easiest to place the most accurate shots possible, you’ll generally want a heavier pistol with a longer barrel. Also a longer barrel provides a longer sight radius (distance between the sights) which will help with very precise shots. That being said, all of these pistols are more accurate than humans are capable of. So even if you were to pick the MK IV lite, which is the lightest and shortest barreled version, with practice you could shoot just as well as a longer barreled pistol. It’s just that having the longer, heavier barrel makes it much easier to do so, consistently. Keep in mind, if you plan to hike or pack pack or anything like that with this pistol, lighter is what you’ll appreciate most. I hope this helps and I have not rambled on past the point of what you already know and didn’t ask for. I’d be curious to find out what you pick. All of the options you are considering are excellent. Cheers.
Also heavier pistols recoil less which means you’ll get your sights back on target quicker between shots. Not really a huge factor with 22’s but worth noting.
Millwr Smith stock for now, as it is a defense style training pistol for me. Originally, I bought the 22/45 lite because it’s so easy to shoot well, I didn’t want any extra advantages from weight, longer barrel or a world class trigger.
Good review. It takes a fair number of modifications to make this pistol really good which is not a good reflection on Ruger quality standards. You mentioned the trigger. Yes the Volquartsen modification is a great fix but shouldn’t be necessary. The worst thing for me was the mediocre accuracy. I looked at that and discovered that the rear sights are just horrible. They are LOOSE!! due to sloppy fitting. My friend with the identical model had same issues so I think this is probably common. The Williams sight fixes this but that is just really unacceptable to me.
revolver shoots a tighter group because it's a single action trigger pull once you cock it. shoot it DA only at that range. hint, you'll need a larger target. the revolver group just proves that you need a better target trigger. 5lbs is a hunting trigger. needs to be about 3.5lbs for target shooting
The washer is not meant to be left on when using a suppressor.
"Remove the cap and the wave washer under the
cap and store them in a safe place for reinstallation when the
suppressor is removed." - from the manual.
I love this model! It’s my favorite .22 for target practice!
I just picked up a used one of these Ruger Mark IV 43909. How do they last the test of time> I know this particular model is going on 6yrs old now. Gun shop said it's solid & they have a warranty.
I just found a recall on mine. Early makes of the mark 4 made in 2016 and 2017.
Just ordered it. Thanks for pushing me over the edge!
*THAT WAS AN INFORMATIVE REVIEW, WHICH DEMANDS CONSIDERATION...MUCH APPRECIATED!*
I'm sure it's already been said, but the TANDOMKROSS thumb rest safety lever solves the issue with the thumb accidentally riding up the standard safety lever while firing.
as a Lite own, loved your review. Look forward to your future reviews.
I just picked up a used one of these Ruger Mark IV 43909. How do they last the test of time> I know this particular model is going on 6yrs old now. Gun shop said it's solid & they have a warranty.
Great video. Most informative review of a Mark IV that I have seen.
The cap is a crush washer not to used with a can.
Traded my Mark III pistols for Mark IV pistols.
I always ride the safety with my thumb over top of it. That ensures I'll never inadvertently engage it while shooting.
I know im late to this. That "bushing" is just a 5/16 wave washer. Theyre like 30 cents for a 100.
Sounds good I’ll buy it for that 10cent bushing and pencil barrel.
I just picked up a used one of these Ruger Mark IV 43909. How do they last the test of time? I know this particular model is going on 6yrs old now. Gun shop said it's solid & they have a warranty.
I NEED TO KNOW what the differences are between the ruger mk iv tactical and the LITE
good video , just wanted to mention the ultimate clip loader by mc fadden machine , saves time and effort
I hope you put up the links for the Volquartsen upgrades, "chapter 2" in the description of this video when/if it becomes available. Thank you! :)
I might get the non lite version of this which is 50 dollars less. Which one should I get?
Getting the TAC model. Suppressor and trl 1. Next buying tx 22 Great info video Mr .22
Great review of this pistol. I realize that this video is several years old. Which 22LR pistol do you find to be the most accurate that is not a designated target pistol, something that is reasonably priced?
Jennings .22
I have 8 .22LR pistol, My Mark IV 22/45 lite is my favor, I have all the VQ goodies, TK trigger, Venom RDS and Sprctre II, Love it
Great review thanks
Thanks for the video! Is the targets at 70 feet shot standing, with one hand or two? And how do you compare the Ruger with the S&W MP 22? (is it the compact you have?)
Did you scope and bench the gun? If not, there is no telling if it is the gun or the shooter when it comes to accuracy.
Man, you have solved my problem!!! I installed the Volquartsen kit and then had problems with the pistol sometimes not wanting to fire. I was ready to send my pistol to Volquartsen then I found your video that covered the exact problem that I was having. I did not know that my grip was sometimes pushing up on the safety until after watching the video, I caught myself doing it! Now I know that the problem was me and not the gun! Great catch!!! Now a question... Does the holes in the side of the ruger barrel (vent holes?) make it any louder using a suppressor compared to a barrel without the holes?Thanks!
No they're not functional holes. Only for looks and weight reduction
Question for gun experts here: how much will a suppressor on this pistol weaken the stopping power/ penetration?
I know a little about suppressors and actually it should increase the fps 30 ish or so(rough guess).
When will the Volquartsen-upgrade video be available? :)
(Chapter 2)
Good review.
*Hopefully you mentioned it to Ruger, because talking about it does nothing other then alerting us to the issue.*
*We've already sent an email about the problem...waiting to hear back...*
Nice review. Do you have ammo preferences for this pistol? A lot of 22s can be sensitive to the ammo quality. Thanks.
Good question. I cycled over two dozen of the most popular brands of 22 LR ammo through it and not one problem due to ammo. You can run "quiet" sub-sonics as well but you have to manually cycle after each round. So far so good. In my experience keeping most "good" 22LR pistols clean has more of an impact on reliability than the ammo maker. The fact that they made the Mark IV's so easy to disassemble and clean means I am less concerned about to ammo types I run through this pistol...which is the way it should be. Thanks!
AZ Trigger Thanks!
Yea man these things run almost anything. The only ammos Ive had problems with are the NEWER Aguila Super Extras, Standard Velocity and High Velocity. Pretty much any of the Super Extras that say Aguila Prime. The ones that are sold in the old boxes and say Eley Prime actually worked great tho. Idk why they stopped using Eley to prime their cartridges, they worked great back then.
J Pyron running CCI Mini mag and Remington Subsonic, mine cycles fine (zero issues on subsonic). I have also run Winchester and several of the others also available at Walmart; in the 222, 333 and 555, etc boxes (or whatever they are exactly called). I have found that shooting LEAD bullets causes a quicker build up of lead in the rifling of the barrel and the bullets begin to keyhole around 500 or so (maybe even 100 more) without cleaning. So cleaning looks like something I need to stay on top of when approaching 500 rounds at the range. With that noted, I am shooting more of the Copper coated bullet choices and I am definitely seeing less buildup of lead fouling (so these ammo choices are becoming a bullets of choice). Great pistol. Also be sure to blue loctite the upper rail Allen screws and the rear sight leaf windage drift Allen wrench screws - I checked mine after 600 rounds during the first range visit - and they were all lose (learning curve on my part to stop trusting Manufactures).
Does it have to have a clip to fire.
Yes
Unless you get the volquartsen or Tandemkross trigger upgrade which will remove that safety option
not a clip, called a "Magazine"
As with other Mark IV 22/45 videos and including the suppressor...WHICH ONE IS IT?!? I'm sure there are a myriad of manufacturers, but every video I see, they say here's a suppressor...then don't identify which one it is!! :O
I have the mark 5 and havnt hot a clip yet..can I still shoot it without it...anybody know
There is no mark 5
Where did you get the paper target from?
Good video brother!
Do you like the feel and accuracy better for the regular Ruger Mark IV, or the Mark IV Lite 22/45? I like the light feel of it but was wondering if you are sacrificing by going light? I also liked the feel ( in a sporting goods store, not actual shooting) of the Browning Buckmark, and it was a lot less expensive. Still a little heavy, but the Browning .22 seemed to balance the weight better in my hand, and the grip was kind of nice too. As it stands, I am choosing between the Ruger Mark IV Lite, and the Browning Buckmark. I was going to buy the S and W Victory, but it was heavy for me and it didn't feel as good in my hand....but is a great price on sale now.
Also, Can you recommend a red dot less than 200.00 that is okay? thanks!
Drummergirl 9, I bought a MK iv lite this year and with over 5,000 rounds through it already, I can tell you I love it. Out of what you are thinking of buying, I strongly recommend you get a MK IV. The biggest reason being, how easy it is to clean. With 22 ammo, it can be very destructive to your pistol if you neglect to clean it as most 22 ammo is somewhat corrosive. Especially between the breach face and the bolt. I believe the MK iv to be the easiest 22 to field strip in existence. Which means you’re likely to make sure you clean it. Other reasons to pick the MK IV is the upgradeability, which is limitless. But really it’s fine stock too. It is very accurate.
As to which MK IV to get here are my thoughts which may provide some insight for you. Generally the heavier a pistol is, the easier it is to hold steady and to not disturb the gun as you pull the trigger. Really lightweight guns can sometimes seem a bit “squirrelly” and they seem to shake in the hand a bit more. This can translate into more accuracy, especially for beginners. Also a longer barrel will have a similar effect. So if you want to choose a pistol that is that is the easiest to place the most accurate shots possible, you’ll generally want a heavier pistol with a longer barrel. Also a longer barrel provides a longer sight radius (distance between the sights) which will help with very precise shots. That being said, all of these pistols are more accurate than humans are capable of. So even if you were to pick the MK IV lite, which is the lightest and shortest barreled version, with practice you could shoot just as well as a longer barreled pistol. It’s just that having the longer, heavier barrel makes it much easier to do so, consistently.
Keep in mind, if you plan to hike or pack pack or anything like that with this pistol, lighter is what you’ll appreciate most. I hope this helps and I have not rambled on past the point of what you already know and didn’t ask for. I’d be curious to find out what you pick. All of the options you are considering are excellent. Cheers.
Also heavier pistols recoil less which means you’ll get your sights back on target quicker between shots. Not really a huge factor with 22’s but worth noting.
Drummergir
@@dman3526 Did you replace your trigger or kept the stock?
Millwr Smith stock for now, as it is a defense style training pistol for me. Originally, I bought the 22/45 lite because it’s so easy to shoot well, I didn’t want any extra advantages from weight, longer barrel or a world class trigger.
What suppressor is this one in the video?
Watch the video, he says it
Buckmark, better trigger, much better magazines and most of all accuracy!
I had a buckmark and it wouldn't get through five shots without a malfunction.
The trigger on the MKiv is decent, accuracy, very good and the take down is one of the easiest out there.
Good review. It takes a fair number of modifications to make this pistol really good which is not a good reflection on Ruger quality standards. You mentioned the trigger. Yes the Volquartsen modification is a great fix but shouldn’t be necessary. The worst thing for me was the mediocre accuracy. I looked at that and discovered that the rear sights are just horrible. They are LOOSE!! due to sloppy fitting. My friend with the identical model had same issues so I think this is probably common. The Williams sight fixes this but that is just really unacceptable to me.
Nice video
revolver shoots a tighter group because it's a single action trigger pull once you cock it. shoot it DA only at that range. hint, you'll need a larger target.
the revolver group just proves that you need a better target trigger. 5lbs is a hunting trigger. needs to be about 3.5lbs for target shooting
Ruger made the 22/45 in the mark 3.
Hi Uncle Dusty
The worst gun I have is a ruger mark 3 its just a real bitch to take apart ! I have a newer ruger 10 shot revolver its a great gun .
Buckmark trigger :drool:
Simple physics.