I completely switched over the camera system I use including all new lenses so this video is my experiment. These were the intentional and unintentional consequences of finding out what works
@@savagegeese I couldn't tell if it was an aesthetic choice. Like the soft blur you see with what I guess youd call "glam". Could definitely be used to great effect if done strategically.
@@savagegeese If you don't mine me asking, what kind of camera are you using for these videos? Your videos are my benchmark for quality and I am looking to get into hobby cinematography.
Given the amount of CONSISTENT complaints about haptic controls where you have to take your eyes off the road to do simple tasks, I'm dumbfounded by manufacturers refusing to make cars for human beings. Way to go Genesis.
The fact that he mentions "Nam Yang engineering" goes to show how much in detail these guys know about the car industry. Nam Yang btw is where Hyundai has their r&d center in South Korea.
I think car review channels put too much emphasis on performance when reviewing vehicles. The average driver doesn't care about 0-60 and sports car handling. There are cars for that. The average buyer of a G80 is concerned about styling, luxury, and features. Genesis knows that there are companies who will outdo their "Sport" line, and I don't think that they worry about that too much.
The fact that they can blend physical buttons with touch sensitive ones is great. Meanwhile VW has turned the GTI’s interior into a hazard and a hot mess!
When Mark stares the camera dead in the lens and says "This is the best car they've ever made," without even the smallest hint of irony is probably the scariest shit I've ever seen.
Great review, as per usual. I really love how how, even though I am not at all the target demographic for this (or many cars you review), it still makes you think and digest the product more than you ever would with most reviewers. Truly appreciate the attention to detail you guys out into your product reviews. Don't ever start to dumb it down & focus on 0-60 and press release bullet-points! Small side note; am I the only one who noticed something weird with the focus in many scenes of this? Not sure if it was intentional or not, but I was not a fan. I typically find the cinematography, music selection, and overall assembly of your videos perfect. This one seemed a bit strange at some parts...
Love your reviews and technical breakdowns. The CT4/5 Blackwing videos are especially great. I hope you feel better... Fecal incontinence has got to be a tough thing to deal with.
Big time fan of your reviews. I have ordered a regular G80 in Canendish Red. I was concerned that I was missing out not getting the Sport package but you just confirmed that I made the right decision. Thank you and keep on doing that thing that you do so well.
Those improvements would be contingent on the target consumer they want to reach. To be fair a lot of the suggestions made here seems to be suggesting pushing the car into sport mode when that’s not the purpose of this particular vehicle. I come to that conclusion based on ket words that he says (pushing to the limit, get into sport + mode, etc). The average lux care buyer doesn’t care about that for the most part. They getting from home, to the office, to see the grand kids. So I think these suggestions should be put into perspective
@@silverindigo8302 He says that because it's a "sport" trim. The points you made is the reason why he said to get a regular G80, otherwise get a 5 series for the sportienes.
We came to Genesis from Lexus and my father was so impressed he bought out his lease; two consecutive Genesis vehicles. First one went 229,000 miles before it was sold.
You mean the showing the black interior with black interior details in a dimly lit dark room? That wonderful editing? If SG is still wondering why his channel hasn't grown in ~ 3 years, he can start there.
The car, as are all Genesis models, is amazing and unique, a standout when you see one on the street! BUT I just cannot wait for them to get separate dealerships, having to deal with Hyundai is like a coin toss at best, and good luck finding an exact trim to test! Plus, it is hard mentally to come to a Hyundai and spend 60-70k+ there... Mr. Goose, do you have any info on their dealerships?
@@jackholmes8105 I'm in Austin area, one is God awful, another is good in terms of people, but the dealership is just a Hyundai barn... After being at BMW and Lexus dealers it is a hard pill to swallow. I struggle to convince my wife that GV70 is the bettest SUV at/under 50k just due to dealership impression alone.
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 I used to get annoyed by you, but then I checked out your channel and pictures and I feel so much better! You made my day, no - week! Thank you so much!
Your videos are incredible. The shots of the car blended with the music is some of the best of any YT car reviewer. Still can’t believe you have less than a million subs!
Great video! Just passing by to say that i'm not a fan of that blur effect that can be seen in some of the interior shots of the car. Looks as if the lens was dirty or something. ♥
I had a 15 Genesis 3.8 Sedan as my first "all by myself" car, I could see that they were very heavily trying to cut into the competition and they hadn't quite found their direction, but were getting there. After it got totaled due to a Prius (lol) I've always watched what they come out with as I have a weird love for the brand and I like to see them come into their own. They're killing it if you ask me and I would love to get a G70 3.3t someday down the line and I'm happy to see this brand really do well.
@@VaunShiz I see them all the time down here in Florida, a LOT of the first generation sedans and now that the SUV is out those are popping up left and right.
The majority of owners don't and don't know how to push cars to their limit making this a better option and you get a better ride and cabin than the 5 series. I can't wait to purchase one in the coming months. I own a g70 now super fun to drive but need more cabin space
Waiting for your videos daily/weekly to come out. Keep up the great work guys, Mark, Jack and do not forget Turbowski. Hope Turbowski will appear as "guest" in future videos. Hoping your channel breaking through 1 million subscribers soon!
Genesis is following the 90's Lexus playbook almost to the word and I'm loving every second of it. The only difference is the Genesis line-up has real style that stands out in the crowd and the interior designs are really special to each model and I truly appreciate Hyundai putting the effort to make Genesis stand out as a true luxury brand unlike some other OEM's (cough, cough Cadillac).
No, they're not following the Lexus playbook, in multiple ways. Lexus started with a dedicated free-standing, all-new dealer network where anyone who wanted in had to agree to unprecedented standards of customer service. The cars themselves were built with astounding quality, and when the first LS's got a defective third brake light, they recalled every single car and gave a loaner -- unheard of at the time. And right up front, they created the best parts network in auto history, unlike Genesis that sometimes leaves you waiting a month for a part. No similarity.
Hey great video as usual . I just want to bring attention to the fact that at the video counter reading 9:21 I did not see that pickup coming around the back side of the car making a right turn to your left ... Good driving 👍
For someone like me who prefers comfort and don't like to take the car to its limits, I prefer this over the regular g80. Better looking inside and out and quicker in a straight line. Go genesis! Really rooting for the underdog. I have a BMW but with their recent design trends...I have low expectations.
Thats WTF I'm talking about. That montage was a good length. You guys do that the best and I appreciate it. No one shows the lines of the cars and the styling oerspective that you guys do. Please use that time to show off!
As always, long term Hyundai Kia issues keep me at bay, but seems like the lighting was off either by design or by accident. Couldn’t really see any interior detail. Kinda dark. Good reporting and info
Genesis needs a major overhaul in dealer experience. If you want to move forward as luxury auto maker, you can't mix Hyundai and Genesis dealerships into one.
In spite of what you say about past models, I LOVE my 2018 G80 Sport w/ 365HP twin turbo. All black including all glass excepting the windshield. Admittedly, I traded a 2009 Camry, so…still. I adore this car and will drive it many more years. Holding out for the G80 Sport Hover!
I agree with you that the Sport pkg should be skipped and you should just order the regular G80 **except** Hyundai decided that if you want a V6 the only way to get it is to get the Sport pkg, all wheel drive and all wheel steering. Adds $5k of bloat to the sticker and really removes it from consideration.
Music at the beginning is so on point! Very appropriate for a silent Hwarang (Korean Ninja) who's definitely focused on dethroning its Japanese competitors. There's nothing that the Japanese currently have that can rival this.
As usual, you guys have provided a great review with excellent insight. With this vehicle, I really wish Genesis maybe had a little more grass-roots track time development. These vehicles are no longer the pure value play that they were a few years ago. The vehicles are quite good, but in this segment the pricing is too close to the 540 or A6. I believe the vehicle is worth its pricing, just that 95% would pay a little extra for a 540 or A6. All good vehicles.
Don't buy new, the values drop like a rock. Slightly used, you'll save 10's of thousands. My 2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0L Ultimate AWD was $50k CDN with 10,000kms on it... and more recently, I traded it in for a G90 5.0L Ultimate and that cost me $60k CDN with only 5000kms on it. The G90 retails in Canada for $90k, saved a good $30k on it.
I have driven many A6 and my 2020 AWD Stinger 3.3TT GT and my new Mazda CX-30 Premium Plus Turbo are both better then an A6--problem is with AWD the germans are in the 70k range plus--a basic A6 with a 4 cylinder is 65k new and my mazda beats it in every category including the interior.I had my stinger a year and a half--went to the track and had zero problems--I sold it simply because the price skyrocketed and I was able to pick up a mzda CX-30--BTW I actually went to look at a GV70 3.5 TT AWD and the Mazda was a demo trade in and after driving the Mazda--I bought it and pocketed almost 10k--and I own it.Hyundai genesis--KIA after 2018 have almost closed the gap on the germans and mazda definetly has--a fully loaded Q3 is 17k more--slower--1DB louder at cruise and the interior and stereo (of the CX-30)are rated with the Q3's top tech package.Also oil changes on my stinger were 70 dollars for synthetic--Audis are like close to 250 dollars and I am sure the bimmer is the same--not worth it.
Howcome no audio of the "Fecal Incontinence" during the Driving Impressions? Was hoping I could get some advice on some lower GI Issues I've been having.
To be fair, fully loaded the G80 Sport is about $71k and the 5 Series equivalent $78k or so. Obviously depends on colors and option packages selected about those would be about apples to apples. I agree with the assessment that at this price point people can afford to extra to get more performance from the Germans.
I love these cars the problem is the leases are atrocious. I tried to trade my Stinger GT and lease a G80 for literally two weeks. The lowest lease price I was quoted was almost what I can lease a 7 series for.
That’s because their residuals are shit. Leases pat for your lease term’s estimated depreciation of the car, so first 2-3 years. If the car depreciates a lot, the lease will be high. If it doesn’t, it will be lower.
From a sports car perspective, Genesis needs to pull the trigger on a proper sports coupe for which it was designed to do. I heard some ramblings of a GT70. Will we ever see it?
I know they're working on something that'll be heavily inspired by the Essentia. I just don't know where it'll be positioned (70 or 80). There was a silhouetted reveal they did some time back where they showed multiple models with the DRL signatures, one of which was a G70 wagon. I know there's also a GV90 coming.
It’s a shame dealers do so much bad for a brand. This one looks pretty awesome and the carbon bits on the interior makes it look way more sophisticated
Why worry about the dealer experience, if you really like the car? I have owned and maintained Genesis products (original Hyundai Genesis sedan 2015, 2018 G80 Unlimited currently G70Sport) . Besides being trouble free, the dealer experience and be avoided entirely if you choose. They will bring you a loaner, and drop off your car when finished. ALL maintenance except tires/brakes are included for 3 years and 36,000 miles (which can be matched to a lease term if you are concerned). PS Love these reviews!
Makes me think of the sonata n line. The built a hardcore cruiser car and tried to inject some sport into after the fact. Then they ultimately ran into a price ceiling. Because it seems like it needs some major changes under the skin to turn this into a sport model.
I think Genesis is on the brink of elevating their name with the newest models. They're literally everywhere in Korea now, more so than the German brands, which are a well established status symbol.
Great, great review. This car is DEFINITELY on my next purchase list...if I can find one. I currently have the 2018 Sport, which apparently has most of the "Prestige Package" adds. So I'm a little spoiled already. Thanks for the info. The packages were a little confusing for me at the onset of my research, since mine seems to have nearly all that was offered at the time, except AWD and a heated steering wheel. P.S. Couldn't unsee the hilarious reference to colorectal leakage at about the 4:10 mark. 😀
Not really the target demographic for this car but I will say it's really cool seeing how upmarket previously "economy" brands are moving. Genesis looks like a great alternative to the more entry level American or German luxury offerings. Of course, there isn't really a lineage or brand mythos for the brand to fall back but, it's cool seeing these manufacturers rapidly evolve their offerings. The era of the end of combustion cars has been a lot more exciting than the boring stuff we got in the 2000s and 2010s due to the recession. Mazda for instance is a really standout brand with their more normal people oriented cars being so incredibly refined for their price points.
I thought the first generation G70 was one of the best interiors in the entire class. They're taking that to a whole new level with these next generation G70 and G80, especially for what you get for the money.
Thanks for the great review. Since you mentioned would be okay to lease, would be great to know how much is the lease price. Or any numbers price etc..
The proper way to drive a BMW or M-B is to lease one, 3 years maximum. After that all the maintenance nightmares are inherited by the buyer who wants to try to impress others with his expensive car. Been there, done that; I'll stick with Japanese and Korean reliability and low cost of ownership.
Agree with everything except that they should focus on the flagships over the N models. Nah, stick with the N's. They're going to be your bread and butter for performance cars, and people can actually afford them. Nobody wanting a performance car is going with a G80 -Waiting for my Elantra N
That's true...but Mark is a notorious Hyundai hater (think it has to do with a dealership experience he had). So hating on Hyundai / Kia / Genesis has been a common behavior..
Love the critical eye on cars like these. Sure they're great, but does it accomplish what it's being marketed as? Seems like this one does more right than wrong, but is a bit artificial in how it feels when pushed. For this much money, you'd think that would have been sorted.
The sad thing is there's no mid-size sedan that really likes being pushed anymore.. I think most buyers of new cars like these just want to feel nothing. Even the new 5 series I had as a loaner was very disappointing. Very capable but not playful or goading you on like my e60
Which one? The BMW vs g80. I think with the g80 you would suffer less back problems over the life of the car ownership experience when it comes to maintenance and service. Pretty sure with the BMW you would be bent at 90 degrees everytime you went in for service.
ppl have gone on and gone about genesis being a "sleeper" brand, how it's so much more affordable than it's rivals.. but 4-5k isn't really a big deal on a 75k car. at that point, 5k dollars isn't nearly as important as getting what you want and not second guessing. and most people just want the bimmer.
People who tend to drive lease only or never keep a car more than 2-3 years (out of warranty) yes. The reliability of the germans beyond 50 000 miles (Porsche not included) and sometimes even brand new cars is... just not worth it.
In America the need for BMW’s is very high. I’ve been to Korea(where this car will sale the most) and you will see a small amount of German cars. I had seen so many G80’s it was insane.
Well done video. Not a car for me by function or price at all. Like that its got power and the interior looks nice without piano fingerprint black mode. I think lexus and bmw own this market. Your 500 is a very desirable car for many reasons. Dont know if the 500 compares to this car.
@@savagegeese Can't wait for you to get your baby-oil greasy hands on '23 G90. Just get the same chauffeur guy you had the last time, he seemed competent and well-mannered for $10/hour + Wendy's meal!
What’s with the dark unfocused interior shots? Lens fog?
I completely switched over the camera system I use including all new lenses so this video is my experiment. These were the intentional and unintentional consequences of finding out what works
@@savagegeese I couldn't tell if it was an aesthetic choice. Like the soft blur you see with what I guess youd call "glam". Could definitely be used to great effect if done strategically.
@@savagegeese looks alot sharper except the soft focus on the interior and some of the close ups
@@kipp4805 That blur is all lens and no effect. Some of it has some practical use but not much. Ill use it sparringly.
@@savagegeese If you don't mine me asking, what kind of camera are you using for these videos? Your videos are my benchmark for quality and I am looking to get into hobby cinematography.
The fact that Genesis has less plastic gloss black than the new S-class is nuts but also really respectable
This would be an E-class competitor. Still less glossy crap though, which is good.
100%. Genesis nails their interiors across the entire lineup. The same can't be said about the German Brands anymore
Hyundai is the fast fashion of the automotive world. They update way more often than the legacy brands.
Have you seen the new Genesis G90 long wheel base?
The carbon fiber stuff is imitation, I assume. I find that bad style if it is, especially in that price segment.
Finally a worthy replacement for my 09 sonata. Was worried i was gona HAVE to settle for a maybach.
Buy drip crypto. You’ll get both lol
Use the sonata money to buy a copy of Forza Horizon 5
@@Tomoyo0827 bruh 💀
subtle flex lmao
Your chauffeur will be pleased with this upgrade.
Given the amount of CONSISTENT complaints about haptic controls where you have to take your eyes off the road to do simple tasks, I'm dumbfounded by manufacturers refusing to make cars for human beings. Way to go Genesis.
You all really do have the best car review channel, props to you guys!!
Minecraft crossover? Lol
Hyundai/Genesis have been absolutely killing it lately. Have to respect the cars they have been putting out
Kia/Genesis/Hyundai are 1,2 and 4 in initial quality, forget the exact order. You really can't ask for more.
I am sitting here watching this by myself remarking about how good you are with lighting, then you hit us with the Fecal Incontinence.
Yeah, he is dropping some monstrous eastereggs there. 😆
4:02 😂🤣😂‼️
The fact that he mentions "Nam Yang engineering" goes to show how much in detail these guys know about the car industry. Nam Yang btw is where Hyundai has their r&d center in South Korea.
Hyundai made it pretty clear to the world with their "N" brand
Almost everybody knows this
@@rockino2562no not true
I think car review channels put too much emphasis on performance when reviewing vehicles. The average driver doesn't care about 0-60 and sports car handling. There are cars for that. The average buyer of a G80 is concerned about styling, luxury, and features. Genesis knows that there are companies who will outdo their "Sport" line, and I don't think that they worry about that too much.
@tylerhansen99870 a year later what you said came true :)
The fact that they can blend physical buttons with touch sensitive ones is great. Meanwhile VW has turned the GTI’s interior into a hazard and a hot mess!
When Mark stares the camera dead in the lens and says "This is the best car they've ever made," without even the smallest hint of irony is probably the scariest shit I've ever seen.
Yep. Dude is stone cold when he’s serious
I had to rewatch that part after reading your comment. God damn are you correct.
I still liked the looks of the previous generation G80 Sport in my opinion, but I’m glad that Genesis is making improvements to their current models.
For sure, the last Gen looks was better. Wouldn’t mind if they brought back the R Spec V8
Sadly, the 2022 packaging options objectively got WORSE, while this should be their best and most appealing product (g90 is niche).
@@youngbrevy last gen still looked like a Hyundai/anonymous . This new design language is awesome
I just don’t get these large grills…
@@DeepDuh Too much grille I agree.
The Fecal incontinence visual was a nice touch.
Great review, as per usual. I really love how how, even though I am not at all the target demographic for this (or many cars you review), it still makes you think and digest the product more than you ever would with most reviewers. Truly appreciate the attention to detail you guys out into your product reviews. Don't ever start to dumb it down & focus on 0-60 and press release bullet-points!
Small side note; am I the only one who noticed something weird with the focus in many scenes of this? Not sure if it was intentional or not, but I was not a fan. I typically find the cinematography, music selection, and overall assembly of your videos perfect. This one seemed a bit strange at some parts...
The focus and tilt shift in this video was giving me headaches. At times, i thought my TV was having issues
Go see the pinned comment 😉
He did address this. He said he was testing new camera lenses on this review and that some of it was intentional and some wasn’t
It sounds entirely scipted, monotone, and almost irritated they have to review cars.
Hands down the best car review channel. I watch quite a lot of different channels, but I enjoy you guys the most.
At this point, you are the only brutally honest car review channel with substantial number of viewers. Kudos.
💯 agree. I believe it’s bc they go much deeper than anyone else I’ve seen.
Throttle House is very solid. This channel is exceptional, though.
This channel is a lot better than Straight Pipes. That’s for sure.
Well there's always RCR
check out throttle house too
@@thomasheap1575 throttle house is solid, but they aren’t brutally honest even when the cars deserve it.
Love your reviews and technical breakdowns. The CT4/5 Blackwing videos are especially great. I hope you feel better... Fecal incontinence has got to be a tough thing to deal with.
Big time fan of your reviews. I have ordered a regular G80 in Canendish Red. I was concerned that I was missing out not getting the Sport package but you just confirmed that I made the right decision. Thank you and keep on doing that thing that you do so well.
The Genesis engineers would be wise to watch this video for a game plan of how to make improvements for next year.
Those improvements would be contingent on the target consumer they want to reach. To be fair a lot of the suggestions made here seems to be suggesting pushing the car into sport mode when that’s not the purpose of this particular vehicle. I come to that conclusion based on ket words that he says (pushing to the limit, get into sport + mode, etc). The average lux care buyer doesn’t care about that for the most part. They getting from home, to the office, to see the grand kids. So I think these suggestions should be put into perspective
@@silverindigo8302 He says that because it's a "sport" trim. The points you made is the reason why he said to get a regular G80, otherwise get a 5 series for the sportienes.
Not really, they ain't aiming to compete with the M series or amg. Price difference are in the 10ks
@@MrAgentTickle is a mid sport trim not a complete M and AMG trim like the bmw and Mercedes
@@Mxtra195 This is true. Not the "4k or 5k" that was purposely referenced in this video..
I love this channel and it's attention to detail. For example, just look at 4:01.
Fecal incontinence
Fantastic descriptions as usual. This is the most informative and insightful car review channel on the planet
The best car was the first gen followed by the second generation. Love my 15Genny with 133k on the odometer. Running smooth as ever.
Glorified Sonata
Sorry I forgot you have cheater mind-set
We came to Genesis from Lexus and my father was so impressed he bought out his lease; two consecutive Genesis vehicles. First one went 229,000 miles before it was sold.
Dang, I thought I was packing on the miles at 119k in my '13 Audi. My wife's car is 4 years older and I passed her a while ago.
@@Artecus Lexus is a very reliable car but boring as hell. They have no life, no feel, no excitement from my experience.
@@datsuntoyy yes, to an extent I agree with you.
I love the way it looks... it looks definitely more cohesive than its previous generation.
Can we just take moment and appreciate the amount of wonderful editing that was put into this video.
You mean the showing the black interior with black interior details in a dimly lit dark room? That wonderful editing? If SG is still wondering why his channel hasn't grown in ~ 3 years, he can start there.
@@mojojojo_BB It has grown remarkably -- artistically and commercially. And, speaking personally for myself, up yours.
I'm so glad the RUclips algorithm brought me to this channel! Love the videography and background music!
The car, as are all Genesis models, is amazing and unique, a standout when you see one on the street! BUT I just cannot wait for them to get separate dealerships, having to deal with Hyundai is like a coin toss at best, and good luck finding an exact trim to test! Plus, it is hard mentally to come to a Hyundai and spend 60-70k+ there...
Mr. Goose, do you have any info on their dealerships?
That’s true. Never thought about that.
Our regions genesis and hyundai dealers are famously bad. That said down south specifically texas and fl, hq claims the experiences are much better.
@@jackholmes8105 I'm in Austin area, one is God awful, another is good in terms of people, but the dealership is just a Hyundai barn... After being at BMW and Lexus dealers it is a hard pill to swallow. I struggle to convince my wife that GV70 is the bettest SUV at/under 50k just due to dealership impression alone.
@@rosgoncharuk2403 Genesis will never be better than Lexus or Germans
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 I used to get annoyed by you, but then I checked out your channel and pictures and I feel so much better! You made my day, no - week! Thank you so much!
Your videos are incredible. The shots of the car blended with the music is some of the best of any YT car reviewer. Still can’t believe you have less than a million subs!
Great video! Just passing by to say that i'm not a fan of that blur effect that can be seen in some of the interior shots of the car. Looks as if the lens was dirty or something.
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Your production levels are getting nuts man! You put so much effort into these.
I had a 15 Genesis 3.8 Sedan as my first "all by myself" car, I could see that they were very heavily trying to cut into the competition and they hadn't quite found their direction, but were getting there.
After it got totaled due to a Prius (lol) I've always watched what they come out with as I have a weird love for the brand and I like to see them come into their own. They're killing it if you ask me and I would love to get a G70 3.3t someday down the line and I'm happy to see this brand really do well.
I wouldn't say they are doing well , you rarely ever see them on the road
@@VaunShiz I see them all the time down here in Florida, a LOT of the first generation sedans and now that the SUV is out those are popping up left and right.
I work for Genesis in Canada and I literally just sent the link to this video to my client who preordered their G80 Sport!
What a great surprise to have this come out right when I wake up for my work commute.
The majority of owners don't and don't know how to push cars to their limit making this a better option and you get a better ride and cabin than the 5 series. I can't wait to purchase one in the coming months. I own a g70 now super fun to drive but need more cabin space
Waiting for your videos daily/weekly to come out. Keep up the great work guys, Mark, Jack and do not forget Turbowski. Hope Turbowski will appear as "guest" in future videos. Hoping your channel breaking through 1 million subscribers soon!
Gorgeous interior and exterior, reliability is a 10!
According to independent reliability surveys, no it's not. I know this was 2 years ago, but it's just as false now.
Keep believing the BS you read. I have a Genesis G90, and a GV80 reliability is the same as lexus or better.
@@MrT-nh6di Thanks for your permission. Because of it, I WILL keep believing a sample of 200,000 owners over your sample with a size of 1.
Wow the production on this was insane. Awesome vid
I chose a 2016 CTS over a 2016 G80 a while back.... Big mistake that was. I really like this car
THE EDITING IN THESE VIDEOS ARE FLAWLESS 👌
Genesis is following the 90's Lexus playbook almost to the word and I'm loving every second of it. The only difference is the Genesis line-up has real style that stands out in the crowd and the interior designs are really special to each model and I truly appreciate Hyundai putting the effort to make Genesis stand out as a true luxury brand unlike some other OEM's (cough, cough Cadillac).
No, they're not following the Lexus playbook, in multiple ways. Lexus started with a dedicated free-standing, all-new dealer network where anyone who wanted in had to agree to unprecedented standards of customer service. The cars themselves were built with astounding quality, and when the first LS's got a defective third brake light, they recalled every single car and gave a loaner -- unheard of at the time. And right up front, they created the best parts network in auto history, unlike Genesis that sometimes leaves you waiting a month for a part. No similarity.
@@tonysterbenc ok
Hey great video as usual . I just want to bring attention to the fact that at the video counter reading 9:21 I did not see that pickup coming around the back side of the car making a right turn to your left ... Good driving 👍
For someone like me who prefers comfort and don't like to take the car to its limits, I prefer this over the regular g80. Better looking inside and out and quicker in a straight line. Go genesis! Really rooting for the underdog. I have a BMW but with their recent design trends...I have low expectations.
Exactly what I'm thinking. I have a bmw 6 series and looking to replace with this car
Nice review. Impressive car for the money. Curious choice of music for Exterior Impressions segment. If you composed that I'm impressed.
A car you wouldn't be embarrassed to use to take two friends out for a cod sandwich. Lighting in video captures the luxury aspirational feeling well.
The intro with that music, wow. Got ready for an action movie, you guys are the best !
I honestly like the previous generation sport design more, it looked more sporty. This one is still nice tho
Thats WTF I'm talking about. That montage was a good length. You guys do that the best and I appreciate it. No one shows the lines of the cars and the styling oerspective that you guys do. Please use that time to show off!
As always, long term Hyundai Kia issues keep me at bay, but seems like the lighting was off either by design or by accident. Couldn’t really see any interior detail. Kinda dark. Good reporting and info
9:46 safe to say that level of insight in a YT car review is second to none
Genesis needs a major overhaul in dealer experience. If you want to move forward as luxury auto maker, you can't mix Hyundai and Genesis dealerships into one.
They are working on it... Expect new dealers pretty soon
In spite of what you say about past models, I LOVE my 2018 G80 Sport w/ 365HP twin turbo. All black including all glass excepting the windshield. Admittedly, I traded a 2009 Camry, so…still. I adore this car and will drive it many more years. Holding out for the G80 Sport Hover!
You have exceptional taste it seems! Well done
I agree with you that the Sport pkg should be skipped and you should just order the regular G80 **except** Hyundai decided that if you want a V6 the only way to get it is to get the Sport pkg, all wheel drive and all wheel steering. Adds $5k of bloat to the sticker and really removes it from consideration.
Enjoy your reviews...keep up the great work!
I like all those added dirt pockets in the wheels, I really needed an excuse to spend more time in the driveway washing my car.
Music at the beginning is so on point! Very appropriate for a silent Hwarang (Korean Ninja) who's definitely focused on dethroning its Japanese competitors. There's nothing that the Japanese currently have that can rival this.
Hyundai definitely is not afraid to push the envelope. I own a 2015 Genesis sedan and love it.
Great review. Nice intro music, too. My cobra was calmed by it.
I've worked on some high mileage genesis vehicles and found them to be high quality products
I’ve had a couple of mechanics look at my Stinger, and everyone of them were impressed by the build of the car.
Just replaced my 5.0 Tau with one of these 2023 and completely excited to receive it.
As usual, you guys have provided a great review with excellent insight. With this vehicle, I really wish Genesis maybe had a little more grass-roots track time development. These vehicles are no longer the pure value play that they were a few years ago. The vehicles are quite good, but in this segment the pricing is too close to the 540 or A6. I believe the vehicle is worth its pricing, just that 95% would pay a little extra for a 540 or A6. All good vehicles.
Don't buy new, the values drop like a rock. Slightly used, you'll save 10's of thousands. My 2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0L Ultimate AWD was $50k CDN with 10,000kms on it... and more recently, I traded it in for a G90 5.0L Ultimate and that cost me $60k CDN with only 5000kms on it. The G90 retails in Canada for $90k, saved a good $30k on it.
I have driven many A6 and my 2020 AWD Stinger 3.3TT GT and my new Mazda CX-30 Premium Plus Turbo are both better then an A6--problem is with AWD the germans are in the 70k range plus--a basic A6 with a 4 cylinder is 65k new and my mazda beats it in every category including the interior.I had my stinger a year and a half--went to the track and had zero problems--I sold it simply because the price skyrocketed and I was able to pick up a mzda CX-30--BTW I actually went to look at a GV70 3.5 TT AWD and the Mazda was a demo trade in and after driving the Mazda--I bought it and pocketed almost 10k--and I own it.Hyundai genesis--KIA after 2018 have almost closed the gap on the germans and mazda definetly has--a fully loaded Q3 is 17k more--slower--1DB louder at cruise and the interior and stereo (of the CX-30)are rated with the Q3's top tech package.Also oil changes on my stinger were 70 dollars for synthetic--Audis are like close to 250 dollars and I am sure the bimmer is the same--not worth it.
Howcome no audio of the "Fecal Incontinence" during the Driving Impressions? Was hoping I could get some advice on some lower GI Issues I've been having.
To be fair, fully loaded the G80 Sport is about $71k and the 5 Series equivalent $78k or so. Obviously depends on colors and option packages selected about those would be about apples to apples. I agree with the assessment that at this price point people can afford to extra to get more performance from the Germans.
In Canada, a fully loaded g80 goes for 72k probably a bit more for the sport, while an equivalent e class or 5 series goes for 100k or more
Good point. The gap would be even wider if you went with the non-sport version. I'm guessing well over a $10k difference
Nice to hear your thoughts on this car. Great video
I love these cars the problem is the leases are atrocious. I tried to trade my Stinger GT and lease a G80 for literally two weeks. The lowest lease price I was quoted was almost what I can lease a 7 series for.
That’s because their residuals are shit. Leases pat for your lease term’s estimated depreciation of the car, so first 2-3 years. If the car depreciates a lot, the lease will be high. If it doesn’t, it will be lower.
that infotainment screen is so tastefully done, very clean
From a sports car perspective, Genesis needs to pull the trigger on a proper sports coupe for which it was designed to do. I heard some ramblings of a GT70. Will we ever see it?
I know they're working on something that'll be heavily inspired by the Essentia. I just don't know where it'll be positioned (70 or 80). There was a silhouetted reveal they did some time back where they showed multiple models with the DRL signatures, one of which was a G70 wagon. I know there's also a GV90 coming.
@@chiemekaa And also a rumored GV80 Coupe
Can you guys please review the Elantra N? I’d love to hear what you think about it! 🙏🏼
Awesome review as always
It’s a shame dealers do so much bad for a brand. This one looks pretty awesome and the carbon bits on the interior makes it look way more sophisticated
I am wondering whether they are real or imitation.
@@Dowlphin either way, look cool
Why worry about the dealer experience, if you really like the car? I have owned and maintained Genesis products (original Hyundai Genesis sedan 2015, 2018 G80 Unlimited currently G70Sport) .
Besides being trouble free, the dealer experience and be avoided entirely if you choose. They will bring you a loaner, and drop off your car when finished. ALL maintenance except tires/brakes are included for 3 years and 36,000 miles (which can be matched to a lease term if you are concerned).
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Makes me think of the sonata n line. The built a hardcore cruiser car and tried to inject some sport into after the fact. Then they ultimately ran into a price ceiling. Because it seems like it needs some major changes under the skin to turn this into a sport model.
Love the use of focus in some of the interior shots! Kind of reminds me of a 1990s car commercial
Nice, I hope the base model G80s and G70s turn out to be pretty reliable so I can grab one CPO some day
Keep in mind that the extended powertrain warranty get's cut to 5y/60k when the first owner sells the car.
@@rosgoncharuk2403 oh crap, I did not know that. The 10 year powertrain warranty was the biggest selling point
Thx for another brilliant car review. You are the best in the biz
I think Genesis is on the brink of elevating their name with the newest models. They're literally everywhere in Korea now, more so than the German brands, which are a well established status symbol.
Eh, local markets usually support local manufacturers. Come talking about it when Germany has more Genesis vehicles than the top 3!
Great, great review. This car is DEFINITELY on my next purchase list...if I can find one. I currently have the 2018 Sport, which apparently has most of the "Prestige Package" adds. So I'm a little spoiled already. Thanks for the info. The packages were a little confusing for me at the onset of my research, since mine seems to have nearly all that was offered at the time, except AWD and a heated steering wheel.
P.S. Couldn't unsee the hilarious reference to colorectal leakage at about the 4:10 mark. 😀
They already revealed the next G80. Looks amazing.
I’d love for you to do a video on that dual ball joint virtual steering axis stuff.
I wonder if genesis would ever touch the sports car segment. I would love to see the Genesis attention to detail and value in the 2 door market.
No they gonna switch to electric before sports car segment
Interesting choice of video being watched on the infotainment for this one fellahs
Those waffle-iron rims though.
Not really the target demographic for this car but I will say it's really cool seeing how upmarket previously "economy" brands are moving. Genesis looks like a great alternative to the more entry level American or German luxury offerings. Of course, there isn't really a lineage or brand mythos for the brand to fall back but, it's cool seeing these manufacturers rapidly evolve their offerings.
The era of the end of combustion cars has been a lot more exciting than the boring stuff we got in the 2000s and 2010s due to the recession. Mazda for instance is a really standout brand with their more normal people oriented cars being so incredibly refined for their price points.
I thought the first generation G70 was one of the best interiors in the entire class. They're taking that to a whole new level with these next generation G70 and G80, especially for what you get for the money.
Thanks for the great review. Since you mentioned would be okay to lease, would be great to know how much is the lease price. Or any numbers price etc..
The proper way to drive a BMW or M-B is to lease one, 3 years maximum. After that all the maintenance nightmares are inherited by the buyer who wants to try to impress others with his expensive car. Been there, done that; I'll stick with Japanese and Korean reliability and low cost of ownership.
I prefer the shape/looks of my 2019 G80 Sport. Added a trunk lid spoiler & a rear window spoiler recently; love it.
Agree with everything except that they should focus on the flagships over the N models. Nah, stick with the N's. They're going to be your bread and butter for performance cars, and people can actually afford them. Nobody wanting a performance car is going with a G80
-Waiting for my Elantra N
Always puts a smile on my face when I see a savagegeese video drop!
Its hard to buy this over a bmw unless they separate the dealerships
Interesting. My 2012 genesis 3.8 with both packages just turned 100k miles. Would like to do a G80 or a GV70 next time. Thanks for review.
In terms of fun, I thought the 2022 G70 Sport model was supposed to take care of that and the G80 was if you wanted more luxury and room.
That's true...but Mark is a notorious Hyundai hater (think it has to do with a dealership experience he had). So hating on Hyundai / Kia / Genesis has been a common behavior..
Cool new fonts for each segment?! If I could thumbs up this video twice, you know I would
$7 / gallon for premium fuel here in Montreal... I'll be waiting for the BEV version.
Yea I’m thinking of switching to some for of Hybrid for my next car. Ontario is at $1.52 per litre for regular.
That’s what the globalist overlords want you to do.
@@austinfrazier7325 I'm currently spending $200/week on fuel. BEV is a no brainer, "bring on the globalist overlords" 😂
Great video what do you think should I look at the Lexus
Love the critical eye on cars like these. Sure they're great, but does it accomplish what it's being marketed as? Seems like this one does more right than wrong, but is a bit artificial in how it feels when pushed. For this much money, you'd think that would have been sorted.
The sad thing is there's no mid-size sedan that really likes being pushed anymore.. I think most buyers of new cars like these just want to feel nothing. Even the new 5 series I had as a loaner was very disappointing. Very capable but not playful or goading you on like my e60
Hyundai/Kia rushes their stuff to market and constantly changes stuff!
Great review. Can you post a link for that Bowel Leakage video?
Love timing these with my morning coffee.
Which one? The BMW vs g80. I think with the g80 you would suffer less back problems over the life of the car ownership experience when it comes to maintenance and service.
Pretty sure with the BMW you would be bent at 90 degrees everytime you went in for service.
damn skippy. 300.00 for oil change, that's why I sold mine.
1:53 This is how I view my KIA K5 after the 10th beer. So much bloom effect that it is basically a G80.
ppl have gone on and gone about genesis being a "sleeper" brand, how it's so much more affordable than it's rivals.. but 4-5k isn't really a big deal on a 75k car. at that point, 5k dollars isn't nearly as important as getting what you want and not second guessing. and most people just want the bimmer.
People who tend to drive lease only or never keep a car more than 2-3 years (out of warranty) yes. The reliability of the germans beyond 50 000 miles (Porsche not included) and sometimes even brand new cars is... just not worth it.
In America the need for BMW’s is very high. I’ve been to Korea(where this car will sale the most) and you will see a small amount of German cars. I had seen so many G80’s it was insane.
You guys do great work. Can you guys work on your pronunciation for Namyang though?
Well done video. Not a car for me by function or price at all. Like that its got power and the interior looks nice without piano fingerprint black mode.
I think lexus and bmw own this market. Your 500 is a very desirable car for many reasons. Dont know if the 500 compares to this car.
On the Luxury car and daily drive this car is every bit as good. On the emotion, chassis, and drivetrain its definately 30k worse as expected.
Cayman987. You are right. Es and Germans are better.
@@savagegeese Can't wait for you to get your baby-oil greasy hands on '23 G90. Just get the same chauffeur guy you had the last time, he seemed competent and well-mannered for $10/hour + Wendy's meal!