Always wondered why Geno isn’t at least playable in the Mario Kart games. That’d be a nice way of keeping him relevant and helping his chances at inclusion in Smash.
Because he ain't a Mario character fully but also a square enix one. Making him playable in another game requires the green light of square, which is, from a financial pov for the Nintendo's officials, not worth it just to "keep him relevant and helping his chances at inclusion in smash". He's a secondary protagonist of a niche Mario spinoff, who's never came out in Europe. If they choose someone as square rep, they a plenty of characters more iconic than Geno.
I've been a Geno supporter since Brawl and I've seen a lot of detractors saying that the obscurity of the character makes him one of the worst choices for Smash and people that support his inclusion are just "hopping on the badwagon". While watching this video you have given the most succinct, well researched, non-bias background and reasoning for mine and others' hopes for Geno in Smash. Thank you for an excellent video and level-headed approach to this amazing character from my childhood!
My big fear is that there's not much originality left to be had with the "gun for a hand" style of fighter, after Samus, Megaman, and Mii Gunner... That said, if they toyed around with the "possessed doll" thing, I think there's a lot you could do. What if Geno's could leave his wooden body to become a sort of controllable projectile? Or when he takes a fatal blow, it breaks the body, but leaves his star form behind? Any hit will KO it, but it's much faster then normal Geno. Or if we REALLY wanted to go crazy, we could make the body something that could be deposited at-will, allowing the player to swap between heavier wooden Geno and lighter star Geno. While empty, the body could function like a cross between Wario's bike and K.Rool's crown. Or perhaps star Geno can return to it at any time, meaning he could surprise-attack opponents from behind. To counter that, you'd make star-geno take extra percent when outside his protective shell. I don't really get the fan support for Geno, and wouldn't be all that interested if they just did "gun hand with timed inputs." If they did something like this, though? I'd be all for it!
I love the weird/obscure characters more than most popular ones. Pirhana Plant is probably the best example of a bizzare pick that turned out great; I love his design. Obscurity should never be a factor.
This is a pretty good parallel to the Geno moveset you made already. Trying to time the Action Commands with the buffer of Ultimate Online would be a nightmare.
Part of the reason I love Geno so much (and why I think he deserves to be in Smash) is because, from a story perspective, it really could be argued that he's the true protagonist of Super Mario RPG. It may be Mario's adventure, but it's Geno's quest.
Geno is nothing more but a side character in a mario game. Nobody wouldn't care about him if he was in a another game whitout mario. He piggybacking off of mario GOAT status. Geno us not interested along to have his own game other wise Square would have done something whit him. Don't ever disrespect mario again you entitled brat.
He’s entitled to his opinion dude. And honestly, he’s not wrong. Mario was originally only trying to save Peach. Geno was trying to save the world. It’s interesting because Geno acted to guide Mario in the right direction. As for why Geno was never used, it’s probably because of copyright issues. He’s connected so heavily to the Mario mythos it would be hard to do anything with the character. Plus, with that design, where would he fit besides a Kingdom Hearts game?
@@ephemeralexistence578 I think the issue is more that Kingdom Hearts is jointly owned by Disney and Square. Where as the game Geno is from is jointly owned by Square and Nintendo. It would probably be far too complicated to try to throw in Geno in a way that would make sense; not that Kingdom Hearts actually makes sense. That's not to say that I don't like Kingdom Hearts just that it would make even less sense than usual. And honestly he wouldn't fit in with anything other than a Mario game. Or Super Smash Bros.
God, I hope Geno get’s in. The action command idea would be so fun to implement into smash, though using it online would in fact be the absolute worst. Glad to see a new video from you dude!
True, but i kinda doubt it. He appeared in one game and he's overpowered. He could defeat practically almost every character in smash. Besides, the Mii Gunner is like Geno because of their great firepower.
UΠMaskΞD R then where’s the mii gunner Geno costume from Smash 4? Why is it missing? I’m not saying that confirms Geno 100% for sure, but it is weird, right? And Geno, were he added to smash, would absolutely need to have the timed hits gimmick. Otherwise he would essentially be a mii gunner clone. I would be totally fine with the costume honestly, but seeing Geno officially in Smash as his own character would be pretty cathartic.
INFERNO95 yes, actually. Maybe not the exact moveset, but the gimmick for sure. Sakurai has said before that characters are added when they will bring something new to the table in terms of play style. Even Byleth, the most similar to an existing character from the DLC, has a very unique playstyle and feels very different to play compared to other fire emblem characters. And times hits would fit right in, fighting game characters get some of their inputs, why not have a Mario RPG character use their inputs?
I think you have me sold on that concept. I like the high risk and reward with precision characters, especially when they're glass cannons to further balance them out. There's also a lot of long reaching hitboxes to trap your opponent into or use as coverage to control the stage, just the type of character I'd like to play lol
Honestly, I absolutely dread any thought of Geno being used for Online play (if he does, in fact, get introduced to the roster). The Timed Hits mechanic seems like a nightmare to utilize with Nintendo's laggy online.
I played Mario RPG recently and I didn't understand why it was so beloved, the story is charming, the characters are great, and the visuals are beautiful, but beyond that I didn't feel that special charm a lot have with him, but I never considered the moment the game came out, if there wasn't such thing as a more before I would had fell in love with the game too, like, is the same with Banjo-Kazooie and Half Life, if you are a modern gamer and you visit those classics maybe you wouldn't understand why everyone loves them so much besides the charm, but once you understand the time they came out and how were the games of its genres before them you will understand why is so beloved. Thanks for the explanation, now I have more respect and appreciation for the game.
This game was released during the tail end of the snes lifecycle. The game is overhype due to being a mario game and was overlooked due to the system having better RPG like chrono trigger. Compare to later mario RPG games this one has not age well. Most who think it a good never played it and is hopping on the hype just to bring attention to themselves.
@@INFERNO95 I've never understood this claim that Geno/Mario RPG fans never played Mario RPG, it's fine if you personally don't like the game, but for a lot of people it's still a blast to go back and play even today, it holds up remarkably well as an early rpg and put enough spins on the genre to make it stand out. There's a reason most Mario RPG games are fun, The baseline that SMRPG set for Paper Mario and the Mario & Luigi series was solid. And honestly, for a solid rpg experience, I'd say Mario RPG actually pulled of some things better than it's followers, especially considering the modern day state of the Paper Mario series. Obviously this is all just my opinion as someone that played Mario RPG as a kid and replayed it recently, but I'm fairly certain the insistence of Geno fans still pushing for him in Smash goes to show that this sentiment isn't a rare one.
@@psicopato2460 Yeah, INFERNO95 is confusing his opinions for facts. And he's also making some pretty broad assumptions about both the fans of Mario RPG and the game itself. Sadly, there's a lot of this sort of thing going on out there.
Way better than the Crusade version of Geno, where the action commands weren't just optional but more or less required. A good game, but they really didn't realize Geno's full potential.
Imagine a game where Ridley, King K. Rool, Banjo&Kazooie and Geno are all playable, the 4 Horsemen of Decade Long Requests, Smash Ultimate is the only game we could see that becoming a reality. Let’s pray to the Star Road and cross our fingers for our beloved Star Warrior to make his long awaited return, the same way K. Rool and Banjo did. ruclips.net/video/44xuI4AXRo0/видео.html
TomGyroid Yes I would count Isaac too but he’s been done dirty of any character. They cut him altogether in Smash 4 only to bring him back as an Assist yet again. Bomberman is another character I would say that was done dirty.
These comment section is so boring, people are going crazy over this character, I think he'd be fun and unique, that's what he needs to be, if he'd be a "rep" of something doesn't matter. "He's overpowered" like Ridley, "it's a Mario character that was only important in one game" like Daisy and Rosa, "hasn't been important for 20 years" like K. Rool, "if it wasn't because of Smash no one would know him" like the Icies, "he's from an overhyped game" like Mario, from MarioKart, Mario Odyssey, etc... Go live a life and stop hating on things that are so simple
Aside from the fact that commitment aspect you mention for all his moves in this revision are very fitting for our old friend, I think it is even more beautiful given the parallel this aspect of the play style has to the commitment Geno’s fans have held steady over the years. I love this revision a lot. I’d like a way for him to fast fall a fair amount to combat his floatiness but other then that this is near perfect. Well done. Fingers crossed for our ♡♪!? 🙏🏼❤️⭐️
I would like to make two more critiques: I would rather his up air not be offensive but rather actually give tenpoarary buffs like in the game and the action command providing the defense buff as well. This would not be stack able most likely. I also would like to see the red arrows but honestly, only if it was used on the ground with a small hop up motion which wouldn’t provide any mobility more than the hop, but also allow it if there is more intent placed on it. Secondly, I would like the down B to me able to be moved, like change the lines location while charging so you can place it, similarly but not quite the same as Snake’s valkyrie rocket (side B). To make this not OP, I think the blasts within the moves range radiating around the places line, though should be powers up in quantity of beams and quality of their power, should be random so that there is still an aspect of chance to it and it isn’t completely foolproof. Let me know your thoughts :)
And I didn't knew he already made a video about this and I was thinking "Mmm, that guy of the loveseats for Smash, has he done something for Geno?" Lol
l'd love to hear your take on Rayman, as he has both a decent chance of getting in as well as a lot of potential for a cool and unique moveset l feel :]
I just realized how much of this is just Mii Gunner with an Action Command Gimmick in Places. Guess Sakurai wasnt 100% Wrong when saying Mii Gunner is kind of like Geno.
Love this video, one tweak I'd like to suggest Take one of his Throws (Let's say his Back Throw) and instead of just flinging the opponent in that direction, He points the arm holding the opponent in that direction, then fires off a fist rocket while they're still being held. You could make it explode on its own after some travel, Or you could be cheeky and give it the properties of Kappin's bus
I never imagined Geno would have variations of Byleth's neutral special, Mii Swordfighter's Chakram side special, Hero's up special without a windbox and XP, and Palutena's up smash + custom move down special from SSB4 as down special!
Good moveset :) Only thing I’d add is that up until now all dlc fighters have cinematic final smashes, so Geno would be no different (although the idea of the final smash remains the same)
If possible, I'd love to see a revisit to your Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X) concept. Seeing as she's being more talked about since Min Min killed the Spirit fan-rule.
For the alt colors you can mix bot ideas tbh, the 7 stars colors can be used in the eyes and on the "sparkles" he can have in his animations, while the colors of his clothes and maybe the body representing other party members. I never thought about the stars as a reference but now that you mention it I just love it!
1:37 kinda dissapointed BK aren't shown here oh cool yoshiller helped w/ this! I like this moveset, really well-thought-out. I'd play him often as a Paper Mario fan!
Geno will come 100% playable in Smash. Hopefully as character #77. Stage will be Forest Maze or Vista Hill. Some spirits with him like Smithy and some epic bosses. The CGI trailer will be perfection every second, starring Mario, Kirby and Rosalina, and some epic remixes of Forest Maze and Armes Boss by Yoko Shimomura herself. It will be the most epic return along with other legends such as Mega Man and Banjo-Kazooie. Geno will be playable again after 24 years. One heavily requested character during two decades. His moveset and design will be so good and beautiful. Sakurai and his Team will do an amazing job as always. GENO LANDS INTO SMASH! GENO VISITS FROM ABOVE! GENO JOINS THE PARTY! GENO GETS THE SHOW ON THE ROAD! GENO GETS POSSESSED AGAIN! GENO FLASHES IN! Just wait and see. :)
I just hope you don't get mad if you're wrong. Getting yourself so hyped up like this and assuming he'll get in just because you want him to isn't good for you or the fan base.
This aged extremely poorly on two different levels. Not only did Geno get a Mii Costume yet again, but even before Sephiroth happened, character #77 was actually Steve.
Yeah, this comment did not age well. But back then, there was so much evidence supporting Geno's inclusion, him not being playable seemed impossible and when I was proven wrong I felt so devastated. I'm making a video where I'll go more in depth with my feelings for these experiences.
Most Geno haters are. The most pathetic thing about them is that they also live under the delusion that Geno fans are the toxic ones. Last time I checked, Geno fans weren't bullying people into closing their accounts on various websites and message boards. Hacking people's emails and sending all manner of disgusting content to them. Or telling people to kill themselves. Geno haters did all of that shit. They are repulsive. Even the most annoying Geno fanbois on earth have nothing on these psychopaths.
@@kayokango YEAH MOST GENO HATERS ARE THE MORE TOXIC ONES! I'M NOT SURPRISED IF MOST OF THE HATERS ARE EITHER WALUIGI OR GOKU FANS TOO! THE GENO HATERS ARE REPULSIVE!
@@kayokango GENO HATERS ARE SO PATHETIC! GENO FANS ARE LESS TOXIC THAN THE GENO HATERS AND THEY ARE THE BULLIES! SHUYIN781 IS SUCH A DUMB HATER, HE IS THE WORST! ALSO I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISE IF MOST OF THE HATERS WANT SOMEONE LIKE WALUIGI OR GOKU IN SMASH!
@@brandonwilliams6119 Geno: what do you mean i'm a *M A R I O* character and Mario makes so much money from his games and i'm more popular in the Smash fanbase
Gyro Zeppeli Hey Geno I believe you have a better shot than Sora because you have a lot of loyal dedicated fans throughout the years and you were even parodied in the Newgrounds Smash Kingdom Skits you have a lot of history with Smash Fans and being requested for over a decade like Ridley, King K. Rool and Banjo&Kazooie if the 3 of them could make it I don’t see why you can’t, you deserve a comeback like K. Rool and Banjo. Here’s a Smash Kingdom compilation during the time of Brawl where you were requested. ruclips.net/video/mrfjOafksUQ/видео.html
I think Geno is confirmed not because of the GameStop leak but I think a spirit getting in and since it’s ultimate and we got Ridley K rool and Banjo Geno’s time is now he’s gonna get in I’m willing to bet
I was genuinely surprised that Geno was not playable in Ultimate. After having witnessed both Ridley and King K Rool, I was sure Geno would follow, but alas. Unfortunately I think it's Square Enix fault. I wish Nintendo would just buy all the Mario RPG rights from them already and then make Geno a mainstay of the Mario spinoffs.
I know this might sound like a joke suggestion, but... Rosie Mayfield Styles on the Competition! Background: Rosie Mayfield is one of the protagonists from the Style Savvy series (the same series that gave us the iconic Ring a Ding). The series is a 1st party Nintendo franchise with 4 entries, the newest one was in 2017, and it has 3 tracks in Ultimate (Final Fantasy only has 2). So, clearly it's an IP Nintendo cares about, but how would a character from the very relaxed and easy-going series translate to Smash? Appearance: Rosie would appear as she does in Style Savvy 3. Her alts have a ton of possibilities, since she comes from a fashion sim game. They could have outfits inspired by other characters across the series, or have alts that straight up are the other characters in the series in a Bowser Jr type situation. Attributes: Playstyle: Stylish, but requires thought Just like in her home series, Rosie is all about flair and style. However, she also needs to manage her options and pick the right one for the job, just like in her home series. Stats: Weight: 85 Walk Speed: 1.259 (as an aside, this HAS to be a catwalk strut, similar to Bayonetta) Initial Dash: 1.78 Dash Speed: 1.866 Air Speed: 1.18 Fall Speed: 1.46 Neutral attacks: Jab combo consists of hitting the opponent 3 times before transitioning into the infinite, similar to Bayonetta's jab. The first hit strike the opponent with a shampoo bottle, then a conditioner bottle, the a shower-head, before transitioning to the infinite jab hairdryer. Forward tilt is a forceful palm strike with a powder puff. She takes a step forward while performing it, giving a decent amount of horizontal range, and can be angled in different directions. It leaves the opponent a bit pale-faced after the attack, though unlike Inkling's ink, this is is purely visual and goes away almost immediately. Up tilt has her spray the air above her with a bottle of perfume. Down tilt is a sweeping attack with a broom. Got to keep that floor clear of hair, after all. Has a trip percentage. Grab: Her grab would trap the opponent in a perm heater machine (I don't know the name). Because of the size of the machine, it'd have above average horizontal range, and surprisingly great vertical range. Her pummel would have her snip at the opponent with a pair of scissors. I'm not sure you could realistically do for throws, but the developers of Style Savvy did develop a bunch of wrestling titles prior to the series creation, so you could sneak some wrestling throws in as a joke(?) Aerials: Neutral aerial would have her twirl around, showing off her dress before a final launcher hit, similar to Zelda's neutral air. Good for drag down combos and general combo extending. For forward aerial , she strikes in front of her with a two-hit combo. The first hit is done with a hairbrush, the second with a set of hair straighteners. The straighteners have high knockback and set the opponent on fire. Back aerial is a backwards, short-range slice with a lipstick, similar to Joker or Roy's back air. The lipstick will change colour depending on the player number (red if player 1, blue if player 2, etc.). Up aerial has her swing above her with a coat hanger. Disjointed and relatively quick, but low in power and knockback. A decent combo extender. Has a sweet spot on the hook that deals more damage. For her down aerial, she does a graceful flip into a stomp with both feet, complete with a set of high heels. This'll be your standard meteor smash down air, similar to Captain Falcon or Dr Mario, but it'd have a smaller hitbox to line up with her more lithe build compared to the others. The meteor effect will be made stronger to compensate, though it isn't dethroning Ganondorf or Byleth anytime soon. Smash Attacks: Taking a note out of Wii Fit Trainers book, her Smash attacks would have her aggressively pose into the opponent, albeit in this case they would be fashion poses rather than fitness ones. For her side smash, she stomps one foot forward while also striking forward with her elbow, with her hand making a peace sign over her eye, similar to one of Daisy's victory animations. For her down smash, she lies on the ground before striking a "French girls" kick upwards. Similar to down smashes like Mewtwo and Terry, which only hit one side. For her up smash, she swings overhead with a handbag, It's a small disjointed hitbox, but a disjoint nonetheless, and a decent anti-air option. Sort of a shorter range, slightly weaker Ganondorf up smash, but faster to compensate. Specials: Her side special is called Hair Play. The move behaves differently depending on if you tap the button or press and hold it. Tapping it lightly has her spill hair gel on the ground, making it sticky and reducing the jump height and run speed of anyone caught in it by half. By holding the button, you instead spray a can of hairspray, which covers a large area, deals like damage, and temporarily increases an opponents traction. It also causes the opponent to take more damage from fire and explosion attacks. Her neutral special is called Dress to Impress. This allows her to change her accessories, with each accessory having different effects. Fancy gloves increases the power of her physical moves, hard hat reduces damage and knockback temporarily, earrings slowly restore her health over time (though will go away after a certain amount of time), etc. There's a lot of different possibilities here. Her up special is called High and Dry. A chargeable up special, she aims two hair dryers downward and uses them to propel her through the air. The move doesn't deal damage, but does have a strong vertical windbox beneath her, especially if fully charged. Her down special is called Follow the Trend. By using this move, Rosie pulls out a camera and takes a photo of the opponent (its hitbox indicated by the camera flash). This move can be angled up or down slightly, and can be cancelled before taking the photograph. The move deals light damage and stuns opponents, making it a good combo starter. What makes the move unique, however, is that if the opponent was under the effects of a character-exclusive buff (Incineroar's Revenge, Hero's Acceleratle, WFT's Deep Breathing, etc.) when Rosie takes the photograph, she can copy the boost for herself. She can also take buffs from teammates in a Team Battle. I know some might say the move is very matchup-dependent, but Ness and Lucas PSI Magnet only absorbs energy projectiles, so it's clearly not been an issue before. To balance this out, she can take only one buff at a time, and the new buff always replaces the old one. However, buffs from her neutral special and buffs stolen from the opponent can stack together. Final Smash: Taunts: Her down taunt has her look through the photographs, replacing the film reel as she does so. Performing this taunt also cancels whatever buff she's acquire from Follow the Trend. Her side taunt has her sip from a teacup. Her up taunt has her sing into a microphone. Miscellaneous: The particle effects on her attacks could change colour depending on the alternate costume, or the player number. I know some things, like the blast K.O. change, but I'm talking more along the line of the particle effects with Mii Swordfighters Persona costumes. Overview: +Good combo tools and combo starters +Follow the Trend and Dress to Impress, while situational, can steal opponents strengths for herself, potentially fixing her shortcomings +Her wide range of equipment gives her noticeable disjoints on all of her moves -Can get camped out easily by zoners -Outside of her mediocre Smash attacks and brutal down air, has a tough time actually closing stocks -Relatively light weight makes her easy to KO I put way too much thought into this. I feel like I could say more here, but I think that's enough for now. What do you think?
I absolutely want a taunt where the Star Spirit leaves the Doll and sparkles around it then goes back into the Doll, would be on par with Ridley’s Stand Up Taunt imo.
I have an awesome idea for a reveal but I doubt it would happen but what if along side geno mallow also joined the roster, it is a large stretch but it would blow my mind
Do you think it's rather arbitrary that Geno supporters think he's gonna be Fighter 7 and be revealed this month (July is the 7th month) because of how 7 is part of his character?
Even back then it sounded super unrealistic. Some Geno Fans were literally expecting/hoping Geno would be revealed on the 7th of July as the 7th Challenger Pack, and 77th character overall, PURELY because the 7s matched with the _American_ subtitle of the game (not even the fact that the main plot is about collecting the seven Star Pieces; JUST the subtitle - which wasn't even in the original Japanese title)... DESPITE the fact that we JUST got Min Min released on the 29th of June, which is only a little over a week apart?!
Remember the Sakurai Golden Rule for developing DLC characters for Smash Ultimate: the charactes are chosen solely by Nintendo. They propose them and Sakurai and his team develop the character and moveset. He has clearly stated that what truly matters when picking a character is his/her playstyle, not how relevant he/she is to the current gaming scene (that's why Terry Bogard was chosen instead of so many other popular choices, same goes for Byleth, who, despite being a widely controversial choice for a vast majority of the community, his/her moveset is quite unique compared to other sworides/FE chars). That's the only golden rule, afaik. So Geno fits perfectly within such parameters. Mario RPG introduced timing and timed hits in the RPG genre, so that's very promising for Sakurai and his team to develop him. Also, remember, there's a pretty strong evidence in favor of Geno: Nintendo just recently shut down the Brawl mod where Geno is playable. Like a couple of weeks ago. They haven't done anything to the mod ever since it got released, back in Brawl, but, why, all of the sudden, out of the blue, they shut it down? It couldn't be a coincidence, imo.
Locks for Mii Costumes? Yeah sure, we already got Rex as the Fighter's Pass 1 bonus content, Geno's been revealed a month ago to go with Sephiroth, and both Geno and Lloyd had Mii Costumes in Smash 4. _And every character-based Mii Costumes from Smash 4 seems to be returning..._
This moveset was really well done! I hope the character doesn't make it in though, to me he'd be a wasted slot. I didn't want Banjo either but I know how popular he is
i actually believe that geno will finally get the invitation to join smash ultimate's roster as a dlc fighter in fighter's pass 2, also it could be revealed that geno is actually a warrior luma
DUDE GENO'S EYE IS RED BECAUSE HE WAS A DOLL,A STAR(called Geno,the same name as the character)POSSOSOED HIM THEN THATS WHY YOU ALL THINK THAT HES A NORMAL PERSON
@@TheRManProds ultimate is the last smash game sakurai will work on, so the next smash is not a done deal, and it won't have the same flavour. Also, your writing in capital letters tells me that you're at stage 2 of grief: anger
@@Shuyin781 UM NO STFU!!!!!!!! ALSO GENO WILL DEFINITELY GET INTO THE NEXT SMASH! EVEN IF SAKURAI DOESN'T WORK ON THE NEXT SMASH, IT WILL STILL BE SMASH BROS, DUH! AND I AM NOT ANGRY, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
I don’t see why people want Geno in as a Mario rep, if that franchise is getting one fighter, I would put my money on Waluigi, he represents all the Mario Party, Kart, and Sports games, which have little representation in smash, yet MK is one of Nintendo’s biggest games, and MK8DX is the #1 bestselling game on the switch, I believe. Geno is from one game from 20 years ago, and if it wasn’t for fan requests, no-one would have ever heard of him. I know I wouldn’t.
Waluigi don't represent shit. Those games are represented by mario. Whit out mario none those games wouldn't be around nor would waluigi even be made. Stop highjacking mario games for a useless filler character not made by Nintendo.
Always wondered why Geno isn’t at least playable in the Mario Kart games. That’d be a nice way of keeping him relevant and helping his chances at inclusion in Smash.
Because he ain't a Mario character fully but also a square enix one.
Making him playable in another game requires the green light of square, which is, from a financial pov for the Nintendo's officials, not worth it just to "keep him relevant and helping his chances at inclusion in smash".
He's a secondary protagonist of a niche Mario spinoff, who's never came out in Europe.
If they choose someone as square rep, they a plenty of characters more iconic than Geno.
I've been a Geno supporter since Brawl and I've seen a lot of detractors saying that the obscurity of the character makes him one of the worst choices for Smash and people that support his inclusion are just "hopping on the badwagon". While watching this video you have given the most succinct, well researched, non-bias background and reasoning for mine and others' hopes for Geno in Smash. Thank you for an excellent video and level-headed approach to this amazing character from my childhood!
My big fear is that there's not much originality left to be had with the "gun for a hand" style of fighter, after Samus, Megaman, and Mii Gunner...
That said, if they toyed around with the "possessed doll" thing, I think there's a lot you could do. What if Geno's could leave his wooden body to become a sort of controllable projectile? Or when he takes a fatal blow, it breaks the body, but leaves his star form behind? Any hit will KO it, but it's much faster then normal Geno.
Or if we REALLY wanted to go crazy, we could make the body something that could be deposited at-will, allowing the player to swap between heavier wooden Geno and lighter star Geno. While empty, the body could function like a cross between Wario's bike and K.Rool's crown. Or perhaps star Geno can return to it at any time, meaning he could surprise-attack opponents from behind. To counter that, you'd make star-geno take extra percent when outside his protective shell.
I don't really get the fan support for Geno, and wouldn't be all that interested if they just did "gun hand with timed inputs." If they did something like this, though? I'd be all for it!
I love the weird/obscure characters more than most popular ones. Pirhana Plant is probably the best example of a bizzare pick that turned out great; I love his design. Obscurity should never be a factor.
They are right, Geno is one of the worst choices for Smash
Don't even sweat it man. He's not even in my Top 5 but I feel it in my gut that he'll make it in
Geno For Smash!!!!!!!!!!
This is a pretty good parallel to the Geno moveset you made already. Trying to time the Action Commands with the buffer of Ultimate Online would be a nightmare.
Lag would literally worse one's gameplay
It’s a shame online will never be as good as it was in Smash 4.
Lag will always be an issue in fighting games online. Internet isn't the most efficiently built.
Part of the reason I love Geno so much (and why I think he deserves to be in Smash) is because, from a story perspective, it really could be argued that he's the true protagonist of Super Mario RPG. It may be Mario's adventure, but it's Geno's quest.
Geno is nothing more but a side character in a mario game. Nobody wouldn't care about him if he was in a another game whitout mario. He piggybacking off of mario GOAT status. Geno us not interested along to have his own game other wise Square would have done something whit him. Don't ever disrespect mario again you entitled brat.
He’s entitled to his opinion dude. And honestly, he’s not wrong. Mario was originally only trying to save Peach. Geno was trying to save the world. It’s interesting because Geno acted to guide Mario in the right direction. As for why Geno was never used, it’s probably because of copyright issues. He’s connected so heavily to the Mario mythos it would be hard to do anything with the character. Plus, with that design, where would he fit besides a Kingdom Hearts game?
@@EggstheGreat kingdom hearts doesn't want him either thank uuu
@@ephemeralexistence578 I think the issue is more that Kingdom Hearts is jointly owned by Disney and Square. Where as the game Geno is from is jointly owned by Square and Nintendo. It would probably be far too complicated to try to throw in Geno in a way that would make sense; not that Kingdom Hearts actually makes sense. That's not to say that I don't like Kingdom Hearts just that it would make even less sense than usual. And honestly he wouldn't fit in with anything other than a Mario game. Or Super Smash Bros.
God, I hope Geno get’s in. The action command idea would be so fun to implement into smash, though using it online would in fact be the absolute worst. Glad to see a new video from you dude!
True, but i kinda doubt it. He appeared in one game and he's overpowered. He could defeat practically almost every character in smash. Besides, the Mii Gunner is like Geno because of their great firepower.
Do you really think all this crap in the video is gonna be apart of his move set?
UΠMaskΞD R then where’s the mii gunner Geno costume from Smash 4? Why is it missing? I’m not saying that confirms Geno 100% for sure, but it is weird, right? And Geno, were he added to smash, would absolutely need to have the timed hits gimmick. Otherwise he would essentially be a mii gunner clone. I would be totally fine with the costume honestly, but seeing Geno officially in Smash as his own character would be pretty cathartic.
INFERNO95 yes, actually. Maybe not the exact moveset, but the gimmick for sure. Sakurai has said before that characters are added when they will bring something new to the table in terms of play style. Even Byleth, the most similar to an existing character from the DLC, has a very unique playstyle and feels very different to play compared to other fire emblem characters. And times hits would fit right in, fighting game characters get some of their inputs, why not have a Mario RPG character use their inputs?
@@MrLegendofLP true
Some crazy lucky timing you got there
yeah so lucky
Wouldn't it be fitting if he was the next fighter, Since it'd be the 7th DLC fighter and 77th fighter altogether. I guess we can just hope.
Steve rocks the block, and the hopes of mine
I think you have me sold on that concept. I like the high risk and reward with precision characters, especially when they're glass cannons to further balance them out.
There's also a lot of long reaching hitboxes to trap your opponent into or use as coverage to control the stage, just the type of character I'd like to play lol
Honestly, I absolutely dread any thought of Geno being used for Online play (if he does, in fact, get introduced to the roster). The Timed Hits mechanic seems like a nightmare to utilize with Nintendo's laggy online.
Wonderful video! I got so lost in it, here's to Geno for one of the DLC spots!
YES GENO FOR SMASH!
Well he made it but as a mini costume again :(
@@TheRManProds let’s hope that geno gets added to smash ultimate as Sakurai said.
I played Mario RPG recently and I didn't understand why it was so beloved, the story is charming, the characters are great, and the visuals are beautiful, but beyond that I didn't feel that special charm a lot have with him, but I never considered the moment the game came out, if there wasn't such thing as a more before I would had fell in love with the game too, like, is the same with Banjo-Kazooie and Half Life, if you are a modern gamer and you visit those classics maybe you wouldn't understand why everyone loves them so much besides the charm, but once you understand the time they came out and how were the games of its genres before them you will understand why is so beloved.
Thanks for the explanation, now I have more respect and appreciation for the game.
This game was released during the tail end of the snes lifecycle. The game is overhype due to being a mario game and was overlooked due to the system having better RPG like chrono trigger. Compare to later mario RPG games this one has not age well. Most who think it a good never played it and is hopping on the hype just to bring attention to themselves.
@@INFERNO95 I've never understood this claim that Geno/Mario RPG fans never played Mario RPG, it's fine if you personally don't like the game, but for a lot of people it's still a blast to go back and play even today, it holds up remarkably well as an early rpg and put enough spins on the genre to make it stand out. There's a reason most Mario RPG games are fun, The baseline that SMRPG set for Paper Mario and the Mario & Luigi series was solid. And honestly, for a solid rpg experience, I'd say Mario RPG actually pulled of some things better than it's followers, especially considering the modern day state of the Paper Mario series. Obviously this is all just my opinion as someone that played Mario RPG as a kid and replayed it recently, but I'm fairly certain the insistence of Geno fans still pushing for him in Smash goes to show that this sentiment isn't a rare one.
@@INFERNO95 you like to waste your time hating on kids games don't ya?
@@psicopato2460 Yeah, INFERNO95 is confusing his opinions for facts. And he's also making some pretty broad assumptions about both the fans of Mario RPG and the game itself. Sadly, there's a lot of this sort of thing going on out there.
Genos amiibo would make sense since he is a toy
I hope you like the new visual style for this series. Any feedback is welcomed.
Way better than the Crusade version of Geno, where the action commands weren't just optional but more or less required. A good game, but they really didn't realize Geno's full potential.
Imagine a game where Ridley, King K. Rool, Banjo&Kazooie and Geno are all playable, the 4 Horsemen of Decade Long Requests, Smash Ultimate is the only game we could see that becoming a reality. Let’s pray to the Star Road and cross our fingers for our beloved Star Warrior to make his long awaited return, the same way K. Rool and Banjo did.
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Brandon Williams I think he’s gonna happen I’m actually betting he will I’m like 99% positive
@@compherut 99%
That's a sign of "setting yourself up to be disappointed"
“Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed.”
― Alexander Pope
Would Isaac also be a part of those requests?
TomGyroid
Yes I would count Isaac too but he’s been done dirty of any character. They cut him altogether in Smash 4 only to bring him back as an Assist yet again. Bomberman is another character I would say that was done dirty.
Damn I didn't know Geno was this badass! Nice Video!
These comment section is so boring, people are going crazy over this character, I think he'd be fun and unique, that's what he needs to be, if he'd be a "rep" of something doesn't matter. "He's overpowered" like Ridley, "it's a Mario character that was only important in one game" like Daisy and Rosa, "hasn't been important for 20 years" like K. Rool, "if it wasn't because of Smash no one would know him" like the Icies, "he's from an overhyped game" like Mario, from MarioKart, Mario Odyssey, etc...
Go live a life and stop hating on things that are so simple
Ridley, King K. Rool, Banjo & Kazooie and Geno = 4 Horsemen of Requests!
5 Horsemen. You forgot Kazooie
Um Banjo & Kazooie counts as One!
What about Isaac?
@@Masked_Mastermind Isaac was Among Them, but he got Revealed as a Assist Trophy! :(
Also, with Most Requested Characters now in Ultimate and out of the way, Isaac has a Good Chance of being Playable in the Next Smash!
Gone but not forgotten?
Hehe. Gone. Geno.
This is super appropriate considering the GameStop leak (even though nothing is confirmed). Really cool video!!
YOOO I wasn’t expecting to see Yoshiller in the end card there. I remember back when he was Yoshiller2
Technically speaking, I've always been just "Yoshiller," ha ha! But I'm just glad that someone here recognizes my name! =)
we got an og here everybody
Can you rework bandana Dee moveset with more than the specials.
Imagine the hype if Legend of the Seven Stars gets a remake.
Hopefully, Mario RPG needs to come back to its roots.
I've never played it before so I hope a remake does happen.
@@Frost-tw4qd don't hold your breath
@@victorford5047 YEAH WE NEED A REMAKE OR SEQUEL TO HAPPEN! PS DON'T LISTEN TO SHUYIN
@@TheRManProds if only Nintendo partner square Enix once again.
Aside from the fact that commitment aspect you mention for all his moves in this revision are very fitting for our old friend, I think it is even more beautiful given the parallel this aspect of the play style has to the commitment Geno’s fans have held steady over the years. I love this revision a lot. I’d like a way for him to fast fall a fair amount to combat his floatiness but other then that this is near perfect. Well done. Fingers crossed for our ♡♪!? 🙏🏼❤️⭐️
I would like to make two more critiques:
I would rather his up air not be offensive but rather actually give tenpoarary buffs like in the game and the action command providing the defense buff as well. This would not be stack able most likely. I also would like to see the red arrows but honestly, only if it was used on the ground with a small hop up motion which wouldn’t provide any mobility more than the hop, but also allow it if there is more intent placed on it.
Secondly, I would like the down B to me able to be moved, like change the lines location while charging so you can place it, similarly but not quite the same as Snake’s valkyrie rocket (side B). To make this not OP, I think the blasts within the moves range radiating around the places line, though should be powers up in quantity of beams and quality of their power, should be random so that there is still an aspect of chance to it and it isn’t completely foolproof.
Let me know your thoughts :)
Do you take requests ? Because if so, do you think you could make movesets for Morrigan Aensland ? Or Spyro ?
This is an excellent video. Geno would be so awesome and fun with this move set. Well done! 👍👍👍
I was literally just watching this video, what a coincidence!
And I didn't knew he already made a video about this and I was thinking "Mmm, that guy of the loveseats for Smash, has he done something for Geno?" Lol
hey thingator
This guy is so darn cute! He'd be fun to play as in Smash!
But I have a question: do you think you can do a Challenger Approaching video on Shantae?
As someone who admittedly doesn't want geno but wants a magic user, this is really close to my take
There better square characters who can be in smash.
Sakurai: "naaaaa a coustume for mii fits better than geno himself"
Shucks, I thought you were making another Paper Mario move set. But this is cool too. I hope that Geno fans get their wish soon!
l'd love to hear your take on Rayman, as he has both a decent chance of getting in as well as a lot of potential for a cool and unique moveset l feel :]
Rayman dreams big!
Rayman lends a hand!!
Now with an the Mario RPG Remake, there a chance of Geno & Mallow can join Super Smash Bro in the next game.
#genoforsmash6
#Mallowforsmash6
I just realized how much of this is just Mii Gunner with an Action Command Gimmick in Places. Guess Sakurai wasnt 100% Wrong when saying Mii Gunner is kind of like Geno.
I Want To See Geno As A Playable Character In Smash Bros Ultimate Roster As DLC But We Will Wait & See.
Can’t wait to reply to this comment telling you you’re a prophet.
@Tsmite Oh ok
Not to much in favor for geno in smash (due to him being overrated), but I am ok even if he joins
Beverly Carter DX / Rowan Why Do You Always Put All Your Comments In Capitals? Jokes aside, I'm 99% sure Geno is fighter 7
@Paolo Dazo Ahh
Love this video, one tweak I'd like to suggest
Take one of his Throws (Let's say his Back Throw) and instead of just flinging the opponent in that direction,
He points the arm holding the opponent in that direction, then fires off a fist rocket while they're still being held.
You could make it explode on its own after some travel,
Or you could be cheeky and give it the properties of Kappin's bus
I never imagined Geno would have variations of Byleth's neutral special, Mii Swordfighter's Chakram side special, Hero's up special without a windbox and XP, and Palutena's up smash + custom move down special from SSB4 as down special!
The best birthday present ever! A new vid by Del! Awesome!
I know I'm late but happy belated birthday!
Good moveset :) Only thing I’d add is that up until now all dlc fighters have cinematic final smashes, so Geno would be no different (although the idea of the final smash remains the same)
Pirahna Plant, though.
If possible, I'd love to see a revisit to your Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X) concept. Seeing as she's being more talked about since Min Min killed the Spirit fan-rule.
For the alt colors you can mix bot ideas tbh, the 7 stars colors can be used in the eyes and on the "sparkles" he can have in his animations, while the colors of his clothes and maybe the body representing other party members. I never thought about the stars as a reference but now that you mention it I just love it!
Me: "Laughs in Sephiroth"
What great timing for this video to come out with all the rumours flying around :)
1:37 kinda dissapointed BK aren't shown here
oh cool yoshiller helped w/ this!
I like this moveset, really well-thought-out. I'd play him often as a Paper Mario fan!
*GENO WHIRL*
9999!
Who's here after the remake?
*raises hand*
Here’s a challenge a moveset for Segata sanshiro the mascot of the sega Saturn and equivalent to chuck norris
Geno will come 100% playable in Smash. Hopefully as character #77. Stage will be Forest Maze or Vista Hill. Some spirits with him like Smithy and some epic bosses. The CGI trailer will be perfection every second, starring Mario, Kirby and Rosalina, and some epic remixes of Forest Maze and Armes Boss by Yoko Shimomura herself. It will be the most epic return along with other legends such as Mega Man and Banjo-Kazooie. Geno will be playable again after 24 years. One heavily requested character during two decades. His moveset and design will be so good and beautiful. Sakurai and his Team will do an amazing job as always. GENO LANDS INTO SMASH! GENO VISITS FROM ABOVE! GENO JOINS THE PARTY! GENO GETS THE SHOW ON THE ROAD! GENO GETS POSSESSED AGAIN! GENO FLASHES IN! Just wait and see. :)
I just hope you don't get mad if you're wrong. Getting yourself so hyped up like this and assuming he'll get in just because you want him to isn't good for you or the fan base.
He not getting a stage he a side character.
uhh
This aged extremely poorly on two different levels.
Not only did Geno get a Mii Costume yet again, but even before Sephiroth happened, character #77 was actually Steve.
Super cool moveset ideas, like it more than the last, I am genuinely curious on who you do next
Geno is inevitable.
:(
You're right: his Mii Costume DID come back!
Though I guess every Smash 4 Mii costume coming back was already inevitable...
an inevitable mii costume
Yeah, this comment did not age well. But back then, there was so much evidence supporting Geno's inclusion, him not being playable seemed impossible and when I was proven wrong I felt so devastated. I'm making a video where I'll go more in depth with my feelings for these experiences.
This was cool!
Would you be okay with making a character's Classic Mode in future Challenger Approaching videos?
So Geno Beam would function much like Hero's Zaps!
GENO FOR SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No
@@Shuyin781 NOPE YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
@@Shuyin781 SHUT UP, GENO FOR SMASH!
@@TheRManProds whoa, even after so many months, your caplock button is still broken?
@@Shuyin781 HAHA GENO IS IN SMASH!
His requests actually date back to before melee
I can see your idea for Final Smash and Down Special being Swapped around, honestly.
I mean, both are possible, this is just a thought I had.
how did this man not get into smash? like how did byleth get in, and not GENO
While highly unlikely I'd love to see goemon from ganbara goemon/mystical ninja series
SHUYIN781 IS SO TOXIC!!!!!!!!!!!
Most Geno haters are. The most pathetic thing about them is that they also live under the delusion that Geno fans are the toxic ones. Last time I checked, Geno fans weren't bullying people into closing their accounts on various websites and message boards. Hacking people's emails and sending all manner of disgusting content to them. Or telling people to kill themselves. Geno haters did all of that shit. They are repulsive. Even the most annoying Geno fanbois on earth have nothing on these psychopaths.
@@kayokango YEAH MOST GENO HATERS ARE THE MORE TOXIC ONES! I'M NOT SURPRISED IF MOST OF THE HATERS ARE EITHER WALUIGI OR GOKU FANS TOO! THE GENO HATERS ARE REPULSIVE!
@@kayokango GENO HATERS ARE SO PATHETIC! GENO FANS ARE LESS TOXIC THAN THE GENO HATERS AND THEY ARE THE BULLIES! SHUYIN781 IS SUCH A DUMB HATER, HE IS THE WORST! ALSO I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISE IF MOST OF THE HATERS WANT SOMEONE LIKE WALUIGI OR GOKU IN SMASH!
I want Geno So Bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any chance we can get one of these for Isaac ,great video overall as well :)
6:15 Sora fans would probably say otherwise.
Disney: Ha ha! Think again.
Square: Hmmm we won’t profit as much if we use Geno but if we use Sora with Disney’s okay we could profit so much more!
More like several fanbases. There is so many square characters i could see before geno lmao
@@brandonwilliams6119 Geno: what do you mean i'm a *M A R I O* character and Mario makes so much money from his games and i'm more popular in the Smash fanbase
Gyro Zeppeli
Hey Geno I believe you have a better shot than Sora because you have a lot of loyal dedicated fans throughout the years and you were even parodied in the Newgrounds Smash Kingdom Skits you have a lot of history with Smash Fans and being requested for over a decade like Ridley, King K. Rool and Banjo&Kazooie if the 3 of them could make it I don’t see why you can’t, you deserve a comeback like K. Rool and Banjo. Here’s a Smash Kingdom compilation during the time of Brawl where you were requested.
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HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you make a moveset concept for dew the Dutch angel dragon
I think Geno is confirmed not because of the GameStop leak but I think a spirit getting in and since it’s ultimate and we got Ridley K rool and Banjo Geno’s time is now he’s gonna get in I’m willing to bet
You mean like how wuluigi was confirmed a month ago?
INFERNO95 Waluigi isn’t happening I’ll stand by that
YEAH WALUIGI ISN'T HAPPENING!
I was genuinely surprised that Geno was not playable in Ultimate. After having witnessed both Ridley and King K Rool, I was sure Geno would follow, but alas.
Unfortunately I think it's Square Enix fault. I wish Nintendo would just buy all the Mario RPG rights from them already and then make Geno a mainstay of the Mario spinoffs.
Amen.
Hey good news either they bought the rights or they agreed to something for a remake so there is a chance for the next game.
@@arichenry4573
Yeah I'm really happy about this news! I hope Nintendo bought all the rights still.
@@arichenry4573 Square Enix is in the copyright so unfortunately no
@@mds_main Square Enix is in the copyright so unfortunately no
I feel like you don't have to justify yourself if you want to remake an old video... just roll with it
I know this might sound like a joke suggestion, but...
Rosie Mayfield Styles on the Competition!
Background:
Rosie Mayfield is one of the protagonists from the Style Savvy series (the same series that gave us the iconic Ring a Ding). The series is a 1st party Nintendo franchise with 4 entries, the newest one was in 2017, and it has 3 tracks in Ultimate (Final Fantasy only has 2). So, clearly it's an IP Nintendo cares about, but how would a character from the very relaxed and easy-going series translate to Smash?
Appearance:
Rosie would appear as she does in Style Savvy 3. Her alts have a ton of possibilities, since she comes from a fashion sim game. They could have outfits inspired by other characters across the series, or have alts that straight up are the other characters in the series in a Bowser Jr type situation.
Attributes:
Playstyle: Stylish, but requires thought
Just like in her home series, Rosie is all about flair and style. However, she also needs to manage her options and pick the right one for the job, just like in her home series.
Stats:
Weight: 85
Walk Speed: 1.259 (as an aside, this HAS to be a catwalk strut, similar to Bayonetta)
Initial Dash: 1.78
Dash Speed: 1.866
Air Speed: 1.18
Fall Speed: 1.46
Neutral attacks:
Jab combo consists of hitting the opponent 3 times before transitioning into the infinite, similar to Bayonetta's jab. The first hit strike the opponent with a shampoo bottle, then a conditioner bottle, the a shower-head, before transitioning to the infinite jab hairdryer.
Forward tilt is a forceful palm strike with a powder puff. She takes a step forward while performing it, giving a decent amount of horizontal range, and can be angled in different directions. It leaves the opponent a bit pale-faced after the attack, though unlike Inkling's ink, this is is purely visual and goes away almost immediately.
Up tilt has her spray the air above her with a bottle of perfume.
Down tilt is a sweeping attack with a broom. Got to keep that floor clear of hair, after all. Has a trip percentage.
Grab:
Her grab would trap the opponent in a perm heater machine (I don't know the name). Because of the size of the machine, it'd have above average horizontal range, and surprisingly great vertical range.
Her pummel would have her snip at the opponent with a pair of scissors.
I'm not sure you could realistically do for throws, but the developers of Style Savvy did develop a bunch of wrestling titles prior to the series creation, so you could sneak some wrestling throws in as a joke(?)
Aerials:
Neutral aerial would have her twirl around, showing off her dress before a final launcher hit, similar to Zelda's neutral air. Good for drag down combos and general combo extending.
For forward aerial , she strikes in front of her with a two-hit combo. The first hit is done with a hairbrush, the second with a set of hair straighteners. The straighteners have high knockback and set the opponent on fire.
Back aerial is a backwards, short-range slice with a lipstick, similar to Joker or Roy's back air. The lipstick will change colour depending on the player number (red if player 1, blue if player 2, etc.).
Up aerial has her swing above her with a coat hanger. Disjointed and relatively quick, but low in power and knockback. A decent combo extender. Has a sweet spot on the hook that deals more damage.
For her down aerial, she does a graceful flip into a stomp with both feet, complete with a set of high heels. This'll be your standard meteor smash down air, similar to Captain Falcon or Dr Mario, but it'd have a smaller hitbox to line up with her more lithe build compared to the others. The meteor effect will be made stronger to compensate, though it isn't dethroning Ganondorf or Byleth anytime soon.
Smash Attacks:
Taking a note out of Wii Fit Trainers book, her Smash attacks would have her aggressively pose into the opponent, albeit in this case they would be fashion poses rather than fitness ones.
For her side smash, she stomps one foot forward while also striking forward with her elbow, with her hand making a peace sign over her eye, similar to one of Daisy's victory animations.
For her down smash, she lies on the ground before striking a "French girls" kick upwards. Similar to down smashes like Mewtwo and Terry, which only hit one side.
For her up smash, she swings overhead with a handbag, It's a small disjointed hitbox, but a disjoint nonetheless, and a decent anti-air option. Sort of a shorter range, slightly weaker Ganondorf up smash, but faster to compensate.
Specials:
Her side special is called Hair Play. The move behaves differently depending on if you tap the button or press and hold it. Tapping it lightly has her spill hair gel on the ground, making it sticky and reducing the jump height and run speed of anyone caught in it by half. By holding the button, you instead spray a can of hairspray, which covers a large area, deals like damage, and temporarily increases an opponents traction. It also causes the opponent to take more damage from fire and explosion attacks.
Her neutral special is called Dress to Impress. This allows her to change her accessories, with each accessory having different effects. Fancy gloves increases the power of her physical moves, hard hat reduces damage and knockback temporarily, earrings slowly restore her health over time (though will go away after a certain amount of time), etc. There's a lot of different possibilities here.
Her up special is called High and Dry. A chargeable up special, she aims two hair dryers downward and uses them to propel her through the air. The move doesn't deal damage, but does have a strong vertical windbox beneath her, especially if fully charged.
Her down special is called Follow the Trend. By using this move, Rosie pulls out a camera and takes a photo of the opponent (its hitbox indicated by the camera flash). This move can be angled up or down slightly, and can be cancelled before taking the photograph. The move deals light damage and stuns opponents, making it a good combo starter.
What makes the move unique, however, is that if the opponent was under the effects of a character-exclusive buff (Incineroar's Revenge, Hero's Acceleratle, WFT's Deep Breathing, etc.) when Rosie takes the photograph, she can copy the boost for herself. She can also take buffs from teammates in a Team Battle. I know some might say the move is very matchup-dependent, but Ness and Lucas PSI Magnet only absorbs energy projectiles, so it's clearly not been an issue before. To balance this out, she can take only one buff at a time, and the new buff always replaces the old one. However, buffs from her neutral special and buffs stolen from the opponent can stack together.
Final Smash:
Taunts:
Her down taunt has her look through the photographs, replacing the film reel as she does so. Performing this taunt also cancels whatever buff she's acquire from Follow the Trend.
Her side taunt has her sip from a teacup.
Her up taunt has her sing into a microphone.
Miscellaneous:
The particle effects on her attacks could change colour depending on the alternate costume, or the player number. I know some things, like the blast K.O. change, but I'm talking more along the line of the particle effects with Mii Swordfighters Persona costumes.
Overview:
+Good combo tools and combo starters
+Follow the Trend and Dress to Impress, while situational, can steal opponents strengths for herself, potentially fixing her shortcomings
+Her wide range of equipment gives her noticeable disjoints on all of her moves
-Can get camped out easily by zoners
-Outside of her mediocre Smash attacks and brutal down air, has a tough time actually closing stocks
-Relatively light weight makes her easy to KO
I put way too much thought into this. I feel like I could say more here, but I think that's enough for now. What do you think?
I think geno’s up b would be his canon where he shoots himself out of it
Geno boost should be his dash attack and maybe give him a random stat boost
I think I saw that in Project M
I absolutely want a taunt where the Star Spirit leaves the Doll and sparkles around it then goes back into the Doll, would be on par with Ridley’s Stand Up Taunt imo.
@@brandonwilliams6119 if he's in smash that is basically a guaranteed taunt
If they're trying to complete unfinished ideas, the tag team of Plusel and Minon from Pokemon would be something I would want to see.
That would be cool
IGNORE SHUYIN781! HE'S SUCH TROLLING ON HERE!
He aint even trolling, he just doesnt want geno to be added, don't be salty
I have an awesome idea for a reveal but I doubt it would happen but what if along side geno mallow also joined the roster, it is a large stretch but it would blow my mind
Do you think it's rather arbitrary that Geno supporters think he's gonna be Fighter 7 and be revealed this month (July is the 7th month) because of how 7 is part of his character?
Even back then it sounded super unrealistic. Some Geno Fans were literally expecting/hoping Geno would be revealed on the 7th of July as the 7th Challenger Pack, and 77th character overall, PURELY because the 7s matched with the _American_ subtitle of the game (not even the fact that the main plot is about collecting the seven Star Pieces; JUST the subtitle - which wasn't even in the original Japanese title)... DESPITE the fact that we JUST got Min Min released on the 29th of June, which is only a little over a week apart?!
I’m surprised they didn’t de confirm Geno when they showed hero
Remember the Sakurai Golden Rule for developing DLC characters for Smash Ultimate: the charactes are chosen solely by Nintendo. They propose them and Sakurai and his team develop the character and moveset. He has clearly stated that what truly matters when picking a character is his/her playstyle, not how relevant he/she is to the current gaming scene (that's why Terry Bogard was chosen instead of so many other popular choices, same goes for Byleth, who, despite being a widely controversial choice for a vast majority of the community, his/her moveset is quite unique compared to other sworides/FE chars). That's the only golden rule, afaik.
So Geno fits perfectly within such parameters. Mario RPG introduced timing and timed hits in the RPG genre, so that's very promising for Sakurai and his team to develop him.
Also, remember, there's a pretty strong evidence in favor of Geno: Nintendo just recently shut down the Brawl mod where Geno is playable. Like a couple of weeks ago. They haven't done anything to the mod ever since it got released, back in Brawl, but, why, all of the sudden, out of the blue, they shut it down?
It couldn't be a coincidence, imo.
Nintendo shut down a lot things they don't like. Means nothing.
Love these videos 😁
Geno and a Hollow Knight character are the last of my wishes for Smash.
Sounds like the highest skill ceiling; yet a pro tier A or S
Why is it that every video has Geno doing some kind of explosion?
Geno, Lloyd, and Rex are all pretty much locks
Locks for Mii Costumes? Yeah sure, we already got Rex as the Fighter's Pass 1 bonus content, Geno's been revealed a month ago to go with Sephiroth, and both Geno and Lloyd had Mii Costumes in Smash 4. _And every character-based Mii Costumes from Smash 4 seems to be returning..._
Why not use the cannon from his strongest attack for up special?
Are you going to make a video of Porky Minch move set in smash ultimate
And decidueye
I’d like to see your take on a Rhythm Heaven character for smash
"Crying in Rainbow Road"
Hmm fast but laggy?.. kinda interested
He's coming Tomorrow. Mark my words. Yell at me if Geno isn't announced tomorrow.
You were wrong the direct mini was only for partner company
welp... i was wrong.
@Giorgio Palesano Or not.
@Giorgio Palesano hmmmm
HE IS A MARIO CHARACTER! ALSO SHUYIN781 IS THE WORST!
This moveset was really well done! I hope the character doesn't make it in though, to me he'd be a wasted slot. I didn't want Banjo either but I know how popular he is
Who do you want?
could you do one for Crash and Rayman?
Crash is better
i actually believe that geno will finally get the invitation to join smash ultimate's roster as a dlc fighter in fighter's pass 2, also it could be revealed that geno is actually a warrior luma
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DUDE GENO'S EYE IS RED BECAUSE HE WAS A DOLL,A STAR(called Geno,the same name as the character)POSSOSOED HIM THEN THATS WHY YOU ALL THINK THAT HES A NORMAL PERSON
The star isn't called Geno. The star assumed the name of the puppet because its actual name is too hard to pronounce.
@@ArendAlphaEagle ok but what is the name of the star though?
@@sanddwichh ♡♪!?
@@ArendAlphaEagle *sorry i don't speak italian*
GENO TOTALLY DESERVES TO BE IN SMASH! I MEAN LIKE COME ON!
Speak for yourself.
Being a mii costume is all he deserves to be.
@@TheRManProds ultimate is the last smash game sakurai will work on, so the next smash is not a done deal, and it won't have the same flavour.
Also, your writing in capital letters tells me that you're at stage 2 of grief: anger
@@Shuyin781 UM NO STFU!!!!!!!! ALSO GENO WILL DEFINITELY GET INTO THE NEXT SMASH! EVEN IF SAKURAI DOESN'T WORK ON THE NEXT SMASH, IT WILL STILL BE SMASH BROS, DUH! AND I AM NOT ANGRY, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
@@TheRManProds yep, definitely stage 2 of grief lol
@@Shuyin781 NAH YOUR THE ONE WITH GRIEF!
We lost... no matter how hard we try, the company's are in control of the distribution of the rights.
It's over.
My 1 pick!!!
And Ray man
GENO BELONGS IN SMASH!
Yes he’s meant join smash ultimate as Sakurai wanted geno.
yeah but as a mii lol
@@seabass64 STFU!!!!!!!!
dude. stop saying prior
I don’t see why people want Geno in as a Mario rep, if that franchise is getting one fighter, I would put my money on Waluigi, he represents all the Mario Party, Kart, and Sports games, which have little representation in smash, yet MK is one of Nintendo’s biggest games, and MK8DX is the #1 bestselling game on the switch, I believe. Geno is from one game from 20 years ago, and if it wasn’t for fan requests, no-one would have ever heard of him. I know I wouldn’t.
"If he wasn't highly-requested, he wouldn't be requested!".
Umm... What?
Cait Sith is that from the video? Cuz I didn’t say that
@@AshenDust_ If it serves for something, Geno wouldn't be just another Mario rep. To be more specific, he would be a Mario RPG rep.
Waluigi don't represent shit. Those games are represented by mario. Whit out mario none those games wouldn't be around nor would waluigi even be made. Stop highjacking mario games for a useless filler character not made by Nintendo.
@@INFERNO95 While I agree Walugi doesn't have a chance at Smash, your argument for that is beyond stupid
Not first
Not second
Not third
This didn't age well
It should have