MotoAmerica Drag Specialties King of the Baggers Race at Laguna Seca 2020
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- With 12 bikes making the starting grid for the Drag Specialties King Of The Baggers Invitational race at WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca, the event was a sight to see with the highly modified Baggers piloted by topnotch riders. You won't want to miss this one.
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I hope they make a series out of this
Right?! Sign me up! I'd love to race my Road King in like a stock class or something lmao.
As of right now in 2021 they are going to have a three race series.
I’m in
It would be another rally spot for bikers. And it would be awesome
It would be harley's last stand, they are in so much financial trouble.
The best idea I've seen in a long while. What a blast. Something new. Love it.
Push rod/air cooled = new
@@davidmathis7030 mathis=douche!!
@@TheBustedNut ouch you hurt my stupid feelings.
Absolutely.
Lol that was entertaining. I just wish i could hear more of the thunder and less bantering from the commentators.
Think this was bad...watch some Monster Jam. I swear they got those guys programmed on a soundboard. They never shut up and I just wanna hear some big V8 power. But yea, the one guy doesn't shut up in this race either. But, it's also their job.
Dont take me bad, I love having Roger Hayden as a comentator with the rest of the crew. Couldn't do without them. It's just that the engine sound was almost muted.
Yeah gotta admit american commentators tend to do it way over the top. Shutting up should be a required thing
This is awful. These commentators are great. But I want to know about the engines. They missed the mark completely, and I'm so irritated. Nobody cares about the crowd, or the riders. WE want to want to see the engines!!!!!!!
Pet peeve: sports announcers
hey this is what American motorcycle company's need
ha! Still will never buy a Harley. Rented a newer one with 1,900km on it and it broke down!!!
@@NightdreamerMagazine that use to be typical for older HARLEY AMF. I THOUGHT THE NEWER EV MOTORS BETTER
You're exactly right. Food ol competition brings people to the dealership. Also, these bikes need to handle better for a better ride experience.
Remember when we could compete and win at the world leave... this is us going backwards.
@@davidmathis7030 Well, now they know they need to catch up. This is the best thing to happen in a while.
Congrats to Indian! This is the best thing to happen to HD. To loose this will surely be a hell of a wake up call for them. Both companies will be pushed by real rivalry. The customers will be the real winners. And the parts industry will keep pushing the envelope!
I’m not so sure. Indian taking over American Flat Track, over the last few years, hasn’t been a wake up call. Harley-Davidson almost quit AFT because of it.
Wake up call? Indian is bringing out 3 new models..the Scout produces @38% more horsepower than the comparable Harley..
HD losing dealerships..shrinking in every market,discontinuing many models..ouch @31,000 electric motorcycle that has already been recalled!! And a big dual sport that makes BMW buyers cough at the price
Absolutely
You are so right! HD is going to have to step up their game to produce a product that is not just riding on it's name! (Proud owner of a Roadmaster)
Problem with HD they are just a clothing merchandising company that happens to make bikes. HD's are the only machine that turns fuel into noise. They have spent the last few decades assuming they are cool simply because of their name, so they have become arrogant and up themselves knowing full well that there is a certain demographic that will buy a HD just because of the name despite the shit quality.
Future is bright for Bagger Racing ..Mahalo for all the hard work ,100%
Mahalo 🤙
This is why the usa can't compete at a international level... willful ignorance. Shameful.
@@davidmathis7030 Can you explain a little? Thanks.
richieg parrett they only race harleys and Indians. If you let other baggers compete they will never see the podium
Hawaii or Hawaiian? Loved it while I was there, now I have to plan visits.
Please keep doing this. Please. This is the coolest racing I’ve seen in a long long time.
bring back the two strokers too, they were fun to watch
nah its lame as hell. It will be boring after 3 races
PumpkinSpiceLatte no one asked for your opinion and nagging. I bet you can’t even ride a bagger lol.
@@liammoodyfilms Riding a bagger is a beginner bike lol.
Way more relatable, makes you feel like your out there on your bike.
Wow!!! Indian only has 2 bikes in the field of 11 other Harleys end Indian puts both on the podium #1 and #3, that’s good for marketing. That is really impressive.
4 of the hogs, one never started, were DNF from mechanical failure as well. Interestingly, that's a 37% mechanical failure rate in their field which actually kinda lines up with Harley reliability over the initial 3 years of ownership according to CR.
@@mattshaggs2931 HD's is 26% not 37%, and its 4 years not 3.
33% is ducati, 40% is BMW.
@@FranBunnyFFXII Oh, yes, thanks for correcting me. This must mean Harley reliability is going down considering the ratio in the race. Thank you for making that point!
Now, remind me, where was Victory in that study? Somewhere closer to half of Harleys rate than to parity?
@@mattshaggs2931 I'm not sure this can be a reflection here, HD didn't modify or assemble these engines? i.e. the teams buy a bike air-cooled so not run recent engine technology in comparison to the Indian WC, fit aftermarket parts the teams manufacture themselves or buy, build the engines themselves and its HD's fault they blow up??? I get it.
I think HD must be the most hated marque available and most people pretty much no what HD's reliability rating is so i doubt they need constantly reminded and for HD to sort out.
I don't know why some people cant enjoy what is going on here rather than ruining it for themselves, Its meant as a fun series.
Instead wouldn't it be great for other teams to include baggers from other manufacturers in the series or maybe all Indian to suit the HD haters!
@@nightster6378 I was pointing out some irony and intentionally went sarcastic when someone took my "tongue in cheek" comment too hard.
To Harley's credit, the 131 in second place was a crate engine straight from Harley...and it finished the race. The Indians were also factory assembled.
Memo for the producers. Keep the damn cameras on the race, PARTICULARLY on the first lap! Memo for the commentators. Less talk, more motorcycles! WAY too much yakking!
Yeah the production quality was poor but the racing was fun.
As much as I want to hate it I don’t, could be really awesome to see all the manufacturers bring their baggers to fight outside of just Harley/Indian.
Here’s to a bright future!
As a proud American, this is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen.
@@davidmathis7030 why’s that? It’s new and exciting, shows what the bikes are capable of. Would you rather Harley rest on their laurels until they finally go bankrupt?
Harly is welcome to make all the big touring bikes they want, they are good at that but when they need moto America to drag there name through the mud so they can get a participation award. I as a proud American motorcycle racing fan will call it what it is. A demonstration of what ingnorant enthusiasm gets you. A bagger race at the bottom of a deep self dug hole of shame.
@@davidmathis7030 this is literally a class Harleys are made for, why are you so defensive about it? Are you bitter about their involvement in flat track racing too?
Bitter about them stealing flat tack yes I am.
Like it or not, can't say Moto America isn't trying new things to bring viewers to motorcycle racing.
I'd watch anything at this point as long as harley would bring back the Bronx. I'm still hurting for that bike man.
@@AndrewDemonbreun me to 😢
@@AndrewDemonbreun they canceled it because they are likely going to come out with the custom. expect an announcement for a 2022 model. Has the bigger version of the new motor that is the same as found in the pan America, 150hp. excited to see it
@@AndrewDemonbreun Harley is a dying manufacturer of their own doing. Screw Harley they refuse to innovate for the sake of a boomer base that is rapidly declining.
As a former lightweight superbike racer and now an ultra glide rider, I absolutely love this! The creative element to make these massive heavy bikes quicker and handle is incredible. Fun to watch! Please make a series out of this!
Who in the world would give this a thumbs down? I love all motorcycle's! This is way more exciting than a Nascar race any day!
Right?!? That's what I was thinking! I love my 2020 SGS!
I have to agree with you.
IF I were to give a thumbs down, it would be for the incessant yammering of the commentators......seriously, STFU!
@@rebelguy9487 It's their first time, they were overly excited.
Yamaha...
Let's just take stock of what we just saw - that S&S Challenger was WAAAAAAAY out in front of the pack, ran off the track in turn 2 then RAN DOWN that Harley overtook it and STILL finished several seconds ahead. That is a new level for baggers, period - this is good for ALL bikers...Indian set the bar high. Would love to see entrants from all makers (BMW, Honda, Kawi, Moto Guzzi, Yamaha, etc.) and see what everyone brings to the table.
I'm not sure what the Indian had done but im pretty sure from the smoke, they built it for a few laps.
@@jamiebassell9225 the smoke was from leaking rear brake fluid onto the exhaust
2 seconds isnt several seconds.
Also keep in mind that the Indian was the only bike out there with full factory support. There was more time and money dumped into that thing than any other bike there.
I can't help but think how much Nicky would have loved this.
I think your wrong. Nicky wanted the usa to be taken seriously not a side show to real racing to sell fat men slow bikes.
@@davidmathis7030 I think Nicky just loved to ride and as for slow did you notice that O'Hara was only 12 seconds off Beaubier's lap record? On a bagger.
Whats that like 2 seconds slower than a stock ninja 250? Slow.
@@davidmathis7030 Well, it's obvious that you don't like them and nothing anyone says will change your mind. However, you might want to take a look at the rest of the comments on here and note the overwhelming support. It seems to me that anything that gets more people watching can't be anything but a good thing.
Oh, and by the way, pole lap for the twins cup was a high 1:31. Less than half a second faster. Now I'm sure you know best but an SV650 is just a bit faster than a 250 Ninja.
@@davidmathis7030 I’m an 18 year old normal ass guy and I ride a street glide. they don’t all end up being rode by fat old men as you say. This was an awesome event and it’s awesome to see something different from sport bikes during a time many people may want more online entertainment than usual but there will always be people like you hating on things for no reason
Just 8 laps but otherwise a great race! Two Indian Challengers w/108ci motors against 14 Harleys with everything from 107, 114, 124, 131ci and a turbo engine. The 108 smoked them all. Great job Indian! Congrats to O’Hara and Garcia for taking 1st and 3rd place on their Indians. I’m sure we’ll see more of these next year!
liquid cooling is dam good.
I wonder how the 111 Thunder Stroke would do? Air cooled vs air cooled.
Yeah hopefully we gain a few air cooled Indian teams..
yea this water cooling feels like an unfair advantage. the basically stock Indian can just wipe the floor with these crazy modified big-bore/turbo Harleys. but on the other hand, there isn't the aftermarket for the air-cooled Indians to make them competitive. maybe the water indians should stay and the harly teams just gotta step up their game. if this going to continue I dont want this to become a one manufacturer series.
Harley’s are faster on the straights but just have shit handling
This was awesome, guys...WE WANT MORE!!!
Thank you MotoAmerica for allowing this format to take the stage. Please sanction a full season for this format!
I own a road glide but was rooting for the Indian crews, and glade that they were able to pull off the win. Maybe it will get them some love in the industry now. Really hope this becomes a permanent event. Congrats to Indian for the win.
New Era of Indian vs Harley 🙂🙃
Great race!!!
My heart was racing just as fast as the bikes. To see Harley and Indian going at it AND Indian won the FIRST RACE!, Oh SHIT! Expect to see more performance parts coming out and maybe an increase in Indian sales. Harley and Indian riders now have more things to argue about!
Yeah, as soon as I watched this video, I got sweaty palms. I love this class of racing!
👍👌🍻
@@Jonathan-L I know bro. Every race is personal
Definitely i am looking forward to the new technology, lighter bikes, bigger breaks and more power out of the box 😎. Road glide rider and im not bitter Indian took the first W. Im stoked to see whats in the near future
@@nothingbutpokemon2145 Hell yea, this is the type of competition we need. Its only gonna bring the best out of both companies and create a whole bunch of goodies to upgrade our bikes.
This is my first ever moto race that I've ever seen. I enjoyed every minute of it. This was so much fun. Hopefully they will keep this for next year.
“Hey let’s listen to this start” while they jabber their heads off and you can’t hear anything.
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Really......STFU commentators!
Utter non-stop blathering for the whole thing. Unwatchable with the sound on.
If I wanted to hear loud baggers I'd just go about my life thre is always some fat man making gasoline into noise without the unwanted byproduct of horse power in any town.
@@davidmathis7030 Haha, it`s called the male menopause and arrives to some in their twenties nowadays. Bald head with big bushy Mo beard to try to compensate for their follicly challenged bonce, quadruplets bear gut, Village People bike gear, farty old V that a 250 can outperform....then they go home so grumpy from garnering zero approval from anyone and no satisfaction for themselves, so strip to their tent-sized shreddies and wife-beater vest, slump back in their oversized armchair and demand the missus bring them a crate of bear.
I want to see even one of the haters (AKA dislike people) turn a 1:36 lap at Laguna Seca on ANY motorcycle. Those guys were tearing up the track.
Agreed. They're fkng flying. Ben bostrom hauls ass and he was only in 4th till bike took a shit.
What a great race.... I hope there is more of the same.... Outstanding.... Thanks to those that made it happen...
WTF, that was so entertaining it was almost obscene lol - about a million % more entertaining than anybody ever thought it was going to be:-)
Please do this again :-)
I was thinking the same thing. Harley porn
When you take something and put it in a competetive situation it wasn't intended for its usually good to watch. This didn't dissapoint.
Thank you to the sponsors and riders. First motorcycle road race I have watched in 20 years.
What a race. Can't wait for more of it.
This is a good race to you?... moto3.
@@davidmathis7030 Yes its a good race to me.
Take it from me a guy who loves baggers THIS WAS FUN TO WATCH and hope to see more. And more track roar sounds from those v-twins. Thanks for sharing!
I'd personally like to thank all the racers, builders, and sponsors for a awesome concept, turned reality. GREAT, GREAT JOB!! 🇺🇸🏍
i never knew i was missing this type of 2 wheel racing in my life. thank you.
Never cared for racing but this is dope right here. Bagger, harleys, cruisers etc. Keep these coming. Crazy to see these dudes taking corners like that on baggers !! 💥💥
2020 road glide in the house 🔥🔥
Yeah but check out the pipes. They cut them up high. There is NO way on this planet these bikes, ESPECIALLY Harleys can go round corners this fast with standard height pipes.
More.... More....More. Loved it. Harley rider here. Indians did great job. Competition leads to innovation. Win win for all customers
This is a racing series I could get behind.
Have it at every round next year, it will bring a whole lot more people out to the races!
Early morning Saturday with coffee and you tube recommends this video. Friggin Screaming in my house loving every bit of this!
As a HD rider frigging loved it! Indian Bikes were bad ass as well.
Gillim, OHara the style and aggressive riding skills between these two during this race was EPIC! This is a sport that would draw mad people to watch. Thank you for this video MotoAmerica!
So dope. Hope to get to see this again in the future. Feels like something that should be sponsored by Camel cigarettes
... two 👍👍...
No way am I a Bagger-fan, and after watching one or two Social Media promos on the event, I was more suspect than interested ...
But saw this vid. first thing Sunday morning and, along with a cup of coffee - black, the demonstration put a smile on my face, was totally interesting, and made my day 😉
... BIG day for Indian too ...
Not a Bagger guy either but love it.
That was awesome! Guys please, keep doing that! Road King Special owner here, I’m all in this kind of racing 👍🏻
This is so awesome! Old School style racing at its best! Slap a bunch of crap together and see how well it holds up!
One of the most viewed videos from Moto America lately... and in less than one day. Just saying
Looks like it was a good idea! Thanks for watching.
@@MotoAmerica Next time make them all ride 2 up with a girl on the back. It's a bagger race, my man. Do it right.
As an owner of a bagger I just love this! I can't even imagine mantaining that speed for that long.
Holy crap! Please Indian, release a full production bike like these!! Love this racing, it's great.
As per the rules The Indian challenger engines are stock. So aside from slight modifications it is a production bike! =)
@@tubatravis some of the Harleys on the field ran a turbo so I don't see that on the parts catalog... 😆
All the bikes were highly modified.
@@06standard1 roland sands bike modified the suspension, exhaust ,air intake,tune and that's it
@@mondragon078 Harley could run up to 131" and Indian 108" for displacement. Internal mods for sure. You can't buy a Harley or Indian pushing around 150-160 horsepower straight from the factory.
This is totally awesome! Those 1,2,3 bikes were in a dog fight for a while. This is the first time I've ever heard of this!
This was amazing. Performance baggers on a new lvl. I would love to see more cruiser or baggers racing on the track.
Love this! !!! I never watch Moto GP but I will watch this all day!!!! Harley vs Indian bagger racing! Freaking awesome!!!
Lovin this here in England...
My hero Ben Bostrom back on the bike, only with #77 these days. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Off the hook! So happy to to see MA add this to their program. Wanna see more of these bikes next season. Very cool!
I personally don't like this style of Motorcycle, but this was awesome to watch and I hope it becomes a thing.
Exactly my thoughts. 👌😎👍
I want to see stock baggers racing now that would be interesting haha
The stock Indians would crush all the harleys
They actually do a lot better than you think. A British guy took a big twin harley to a track event and he was smoking a lot of other bikes.
You won't. They'd get lapped and ripped apart by Honda wings and beemer 1600Bs
Handlebar tassels and chrome skulls should be mandatory. Awesome to see baggers making power and speed and not just noise. Loved it.
I need more of this in my life!!! "Heavy bikes baby, heavy bikes."
We ride heavy bike. !!
As a die-hard MotoGP/superbike fan, I love this :D super exciting to watch racing that isn't as neat and tidy. It's like going back and watching 90s 2-stroke races.
Awesome!!! Need more bagger racing! Imagine the public interest if this was done at Daytona bike week. Harley and Indian, I pray you’re taking notice. 👍
It’s pretty cool. All the riders are super bike racers (Moto America former AMA) that have been contracted to ride these big bikes and make this happen. Really really dope to see people like Josh Herrin and Corey West doing stuff like this
Best thing to happen in 2020. Incredible!!!
Absolutely stunning. Need to have a series of races. This is what it's all about. Damm I loved it.
That was great to watch!! I sure hope they bring it back next year.
Long time MotoGP, AMA & WSB follower. This series is amazing watching baggers getting tossed around like this!
Next time bring out
-Honda Goldwing
-BMW K1600B
-MotoGuzzi MGX-21
If you thru a BMW K1600 in the mix, it would be a blowout...no way a twin would beat that beast of a 6 cylinder engine.
Kawasaki Vaquero, Yamaha Eluder.....
A K1600B isn't a bagger though.
I’ve been watching Moro GP for years and I’ll be sure to catch EVERY SINGLE ONE of these racer. Epic 👍🏽
Do a complete series next year please 🙏🏻
This is so awesome. It's a complete win for everyone: race fans, manufacturers, and customers. 👍
Make this a series, championship or even a regular exhibition and you’ll have a fan here.
Exciting race. Having the leader fall back the. Muscle his way back to the lead and end up wining by a nice gap. These gentlemen are top level racers.
This needs to be a series. I like the 8 laps. Needs to be open to all manufacturers with baggers that sell, no one-off race bikes. 1300cc minimum. Keep it simple and fun. But competitive.
This would be fun to watch at the track with the boys and some cold beers.
This was pretty damn cool to watch. I was really into it and palms were sweaty to watch Indian and Harley really go at it. If this takes off, I can see a new class of (from the factory) performance baggers coming out. As others have stated, I would love to watch a King of the Baggers featuring all the motorcycle companies pitting their baggers against eachother. Here’s to a bright future.
Those guys can ride hats off to them. Best racing seen in long time congrats Indian
Man I absolutely want to race. Sign me up
This is what both American Motorcycle companies need to be doing. Attracting younger audience , building modern performance machines and showcasing them!
See American Flat Track.
Great race, absolutely thrilling, great sound from these bikes.
greetings from Germany
That was freaking awesome!!! This should be a regular event
Very, very entertaining! I hope we see more of this.
Thank you so much for this.
Fantastic race for sure.
Them last five laps were breathtaking.
The Harley racers must not have built their motor because they didn't want to avoid their warranty... LOL
Please please please keep this alive it's ridiculous and I love it
This is what Motoamerica needs. American motorcycles!!!! I love the Asian and Italian bikes but I like American bikes more!❤️❤️❤️❤️. @motoamerica please make this a permanent event! You'll gain more fans by including both sport bike and cruiser motocyclists!!! It's a win win for everyone!!!
That was some impressive wheel drifting going into t-2 .
Pretty fun to watch, hope this can and does become a class regular.
This needs to be a regular class!!!
This was awesome, if they make this an annual thing they need to plan it around Sturgis. I like how they had professional riders doing it too.
I need to see this on person!
I was never into bikes like these but after watching this, I gotta say my mind has definitely been changed.
Did you notice, in the text, the term "highly modified"? If you're gonna race a non-production machine, you may as well make it wicked fast. These things were still slugs.
This is amazing in Europe we need a Bagger Race like this, its awesome !!!!
That was awesome!!!! I've been saying they need to do a race like this for years. Happy some other people were on the same wavelength. Bravo!
A series would be awesome!
Baggers are actually looking cool to me right now. I totally support this. I want more.
This was great! Could bring a different demographic to the track...👍I can't wait to see the Honda Goldwing entry.
King Of the Baggers is going to be huge!! Please come to the UK.
Best thing I’ve seen in years
Awesome to see this happening. We the greenwood posse love these bikes , to have races with baggers is finominal.
That was great, want to see more. I imagine an enduro style race like this.
Great job...I hope this continues next year with more races
This is the coolest thing I have ever seen! The American motorcycle industry needed this! Please make this a racing series
Best thing to come out of 2020! Well done!
This SHOULD have been happening all along!!! Right next to the sport bike races! Will better than double the audience IMO! PLEASE PLEASE KEEP THIS AS A SERIES!!! 3+ classes potentially -
Big Baggers -
Stripped down Softail(type) bikes -
Sporties -
Again...we've had dirt racing...but they really should do this series along side Moto America! 💯
& Bostrum...Herrin....big names...LOVE IT❤😍💖
This was badass to watch. Definitely going to be looking for next one
Im a Road Glide owner and man im glad to see Indian and Harley going at it again. Big time Laguna Seca attendee. Im just glad this is gonna shed more light on our baggers and strive for better track performance (lighter/power/breaking) mods from both Manufacturers 😎🤙
This is so awesome!Yes please make it a series.
This was my first motorcycle race ever to watch and holy crap that was awesome! Please do more bagger races. I need more races from these beasts.
That was awesome. Once they figure out some rules for stuff like max CC's etc, this could be a full fledged class.
The max right now is 131ci.
What I really want to see is someone running an M8 street glide/roadglide/electra. Those were all Twincam harleys, none of them were M8s, where as the challenger is new. I wonder how well an M8 harley would have done.
I really do hope this becomes a class permanently. This is kick ass.
Maybe if kawasaki wanted to get in the game the Vn2000 would be prime for this type of racing
@@FranBunnyFFXII Stick to video games! Bikes ain’t your thing. Those were definitely not “all twin cam Harleys” You don’t have to wonder how an M8 would do. If you watched the race you saw how it would do. When a brand new engine design comes out and spanks you, you’ve got some work to do! If HD is smart they’ll drop a version of the 1250 from the PanAmerica into their road bikes and start engineering a new (better) chassis.
It's incredible the performance of this engines, and the riders do a great show fighting with the heavy and torquey bike
Loved ever second of it... Do it again Brah...