How The Diamond Deal Turned Into A Huge Failure...
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2024
- After Tony Prince Seeks To Buy 2 Million Dollars Worth Of Stolen Diamonds People In The Liberty City Criminal Underworld Tried To Get Them For Themselves, Leading Into A Disaster For All Parties Involved... #grandtheftauto #gtaiv #grandtheftautoiv
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this is what i call clever writing having these three cross paths
Episodes from liberty city has the best story writing. Only one on par with SA to me
The diamond story in GTA 4 is really one of the best written stories in GTA series. Hopefully GTA 6 has a story similar to this one. GTA 5 was more like Michael paying off his past life to the feds and getting his friends involved in the situation Trevor and Franklin. GTA V was more of Michael’s story than anything else which isn’t a bad thing just wasn’t as impactful as the diamond story in GTA 4.
Facts
Idk if you know this but Michael was the first character Rockstar made for GTA V so it makes sense most of the story revolves around him. Franklin and Trevor came later
@@wyald7240 yeah I know he was the first one to introduce us in the very first trailer so it makes sense.
Pegorino is to blame. He made Ray the only capo. Ray should have more capos helping him. And Jimmy hired so many associates without checking them first.
The fact that this was a subplot, and not the main plot of the game speaks volumes to the depth of grand theft auto auto 4. It still doesn’t make sense to me that the diamonds ended up in the middle of a park when they were in the back of a dump truck though.
in the beta, that park must've been a scrapyard.
Well, the dump truck was traveling through an industrial area, and from there you can drive back into Broker, which is where it was going. Stopped at the park, either they were unloading there nearby, or the driver was checking the load, he dumped them next to it in the trash.
Man, these videos are always giving me a completely different understanding of the story of these games. Seeing as i played most of them as a kid and i didnt care about the lore or the events within, and just wanted the mayhem.
I definitely agree, but I guess it’s because I literally played these games when I was a child and in my early teen years and didn’t have an understanding of things like I do now in my early 20s.
So true. I wish I could have taken care of my games and systems so I could replay these games.
@@mr.peanutbutter6969check flea markets, thrift stores, maybe ebay, facebook marketplace or video game stores near you might have an older console and some might come w games you use to play as a kid
Diamonds are symbolism for greed, the power of greed can hurt the ones close to you and yourself
I’m just happy someone still covers this absolute gem of a game from 16 years ago
Lmao i love that Ray says "Go to an alley way between Columbus and Denver" and then you go outside just to realize its literally around the other side of the very building you just came out of talking to ray. He would've just said Go round back soon as you go out the door niko you'll see them soon as you turn right.
Phil Bell was a real one
You know Phil Bell should appear in GTA 6 years after the whole Pegorino thing. An just do his own thing the "Bell Gang" take what he learned from his former boss and do the opposite of them. Guys got a right head on him more then his last boss, no doubt he'd have way more success then Jimmy Pegorino.
@@silentecho92able bro would’ve been a better boss than Peg. And since Phil was Irish, and Packie worked for the Pegs, they could know each other. I would love to see more gta 4 characters, and the good ones, not just Michelle and cuck Johnny Kelbitz
@@vadamane If Phil was the boss instead of Jimmy Pegorino in GTA4. That whole crew probably would not have gone belly-up like it did. This talk about Jimmy trying to join the commission with how he runs his group is dysfunctional which has already disqualified him more then ones.
Phil despite being the best in the crew, is 90% Irish and to many associates too. The Commission prefers all 100% Italian. Another thing Jimmy keeps getting himself into much trouble. The Commission ain't gonna accept a group that keeps getting itself to much Heat it ain't happening. An finally Pegorino is from Alderney, the Commission only accepts those from Algonquin area specifically the OG families.
If Phil was the one in charge instead of pursuing whatever Jimmy wants. They would have probably turned Alderney into there own personal fort instead of wasting time with the other families across the pond.
@@silentecho92able yeah I remember when niko and Phil were debating pegorinos plan for a certain job and they both knew it wasn’t a good plan but had to do it anyway cuz that’s the boss orders
@@vadamane You know what i see in Phil his like a light version of Tommy Vercetti. Only difference is he ain't reached his true potential. An his boss ain't secretly backstab him like Sonny Forelli on Tommy, but at least Sonny is smart compared to Jimmy as he is just incompetent in general.
If Phil somehow returns i hope to god the developers see that guys true potential, imagine playing the game nearly half way only to run in Bell. An turn out he carved his own small empire down in Vice cause he did the opposite of what Jimmy does and get mission from Phil that would be awesome.
Now the homeless guy is making a gun store in vice city (gta6) crazy rockstar🗣️
lol now that’s long term storytelling.
I hope that hobo's gun shop would be real in GTA 6. I know that R* never forgets about past charaters, but stillv
I hope one of the characters in gta 6 was one who collected the diamonds back in gta 4
HD universe has slowly been building up for gta 6
I would not be surprised if we do see that homeless guy in GTA 6
Those diamonds really caused a disaster for 3 characters in GTA 4.
Sometimes I be playing these games and laughing at these crazy characters then I get stoned and I’m like… bro this is some dark tragic shit and situations I’d never wanna find myself in. GTA4 is crazy bro
3 protagonists wanted those diamonds
this could never work
The messed up thing is there is also a good chance the homeless guy got tracked down as well. His biggest mistake was telling the news about the diamonds because now everyone knows who has them and what his plans are and where hes going.
The mayor LC let him keep them.
Man, i wished Niko, Johnny, and Luiz would meet again in a more friendly encounter and become friends, but knowing how they all wronged each other in some way its probably for the best they didnt meet up. At least Johnny and Niko can advise Luiz (who hasn't lost anyone dear to him) to not let revenge(Niko) and greed(Johnny) make him do something that he'll regret later on in life.
We all know Johnny' K's future, sadly enough. Thanks to Trevor.
@@iseriouslyi1m1 ya that was some major character assassination bullshit on that one
Tbf look how many Lost members died because of the diamonds deal, Luis kills them so many with remote bombs while Johnny and the others killed gay Tony's boyfriend and stole the diamonds. Those money belonged to the Lost and if I was Johnny I would have stole them too from Ray given the chance because he just sat at his restaurant giving orders while Johnny and his gang risked their lives. I believe it was thanks to those money the Lost were able to move to San Andreas and start business there.
@@thestrong2401yeah but it was because of Johnny ' actions that led the Pegorinos to retaliate and drive them out of Liberty City. Johnny was really lucky the Pegorinos were in a bad spot and didn't fully bring attention to them. I like how they are seen as joke in the game but the Pegorino crime family are still much of threat to gangs and criminals who aren't the Commision. The McReary's were under their thumb and they had enough power to be serious threat to the Lost.
get a grip
Niko is pretty much the only person who doesn’t really care about the diamonds as he only cared about finding Florian.
Please do a lore on the Heroin in Liberty City
I was just thinking that ! 👍
A great recap on the diamonds storyline. I originally thought Ray Bulgarin actually recovered the diamonds after the botched deal at Charge Island somehow and Luis had them on him and it fell. I really wonder if Luis and Tony actually noticed that they were in Jerry’s possession in the end but that’s another story. About Johnny setting up the Los Santos Chapter with the diamond money….. I’m fairly sure that Johnny gave the money to Jim’s family. I do believe that Johnny betrayed Ray because he was desperate after Brian’s betrayal along with his distrust of Boccino coupled by his relationship with Ashley, however the wiki says that Johnny gave the diamond money to Jim’s family which I believe. He may have kept half of it for himself though after desiring to start a new chapter of the Lost. However I really overlooked how Ray kept the diamond issue a secret from the rest of the Pegorinos. It puts Ray in a new light. However I’m willing to give Ray the benefit of the doubt because we’ll never know what would happen if he did have the money from the deal. Ray did say that he didn’t wish to speak of the diamond unless he has earned from it. Ray likely would’ve given 60% of his cut to Pegorino, approximately 600,000 dollars with Ray himself getting 400,000, despite him having orchestrating the whole thing with Johnny supposedly receiving one million dollars. Considering Ray’s goons attempting to kill Johnny as he left the museum with Niko just having left, we’ll never know if Ray really did intend to screw Johnny over.
I love how the game starts with the cook staring up at the diamond and ends with the homeless man doing the same thing. Great breakdown of this plot line in the game, I never even thought about Ray pocketing the money for himself, I thought he was gonna use the diamond money to get Pegorino’s favor.
I really enjoy the way you out in so much effort to sync the events together even going as far as to put the audio of the gun fire at the gracie exchange from nikos POV to line up with luis becoming aware of the start of the conflict. I actually did something similar in my last playthrough of the game by playing each of the stories in chronological order. I started the game as niko obviously and then started The Lost and as soon as i killed Jason as Niko i cut over to TLAD and Played the Mission where you hear of Jasons death. As soon as the bank mission was finished i started TBOGT since thats where it begins. I did this for the entirety of the 3 atory lines. The most tedious but interesting part was doing the mission with the diamond deal because this required me to watch the exact same cutscene 3 times in a row just from different POVs.
Niko took out everyone by himself, all of these dlcs show the affect nikos rampage was.
They need to make the diamond deal into a movie directed by Quentin Tarantino. It doesn’t have to be a video game movie they can make a movie that’s kinda based off of the game.
This was the one mission that made me happy to see Johnny, Niko and Louis in one place lol. Although we seen them in TBOGT introduction
25:55 the way he says “I ju…ijustcouldntakeitanymo” kills me
Niko Johnny and Luis are all love able characters despite they all kinda just indirectly screw each other over in the story mode and we assist
Niko and ray have a complicated relationship. They don’t really like each other but do favors for each other like ray helping you find Bernie and Niko helping him with the diamonds but in the end, they both wanted each other dead.
I don't think they ever actually wanted each other dead tbh. I know there was the cutscene in the mission "Pest Control" when Ray gives Niko a weird look then tells Pegorino to "think about what I said" which may indicate he was suggesting to kill Niko but I feel he was talking about Phil but didn't want Niko to know that. I also don't remember if Niko ever hinted at wanting Ray dead either, unless there was something he said that I forgot. Even when he was tasked to kill Ray I don't think he actually wanted to do that. I do know Niko grew tired of Ray after this diamond ordeal but I don't recall any mention of wanting him dead. Ray was a slimeball so who knows what he was thinking though lol
They didn’t want eachother dead, Ray just thought Niko was cheap hired help and Ray was a greedy scumbag. It was all just business at the end of the day
these videos have quickly become some of my favorite on all of youtube, keep up the great work man
the thumbnail just made me realize that the gta iv dlc foreshadowed gta v having 3 protagonist🔥 idk how i never caught that but imagine if gta iv was created that way from the beginning
35:05 See you in 2025/Vice City/GTA VI Jerry. 👋
Ashley was a mistake, brought down the team after dealing with her drug addiction
Damn this one best stories in the gta series basically having a small movie in a bigger game
I wonder if the FIB ever got wind of this debacle and, if so, what would they do. Apart from obviously wanting to get the diamonds themselves.
Bruh I deadass binged damn near every video, good shit my guy
Man, your videos are something, else, I don't know what it is, but every time I watch these videos of yours it seems like I'm watching something horror related, I don't know to put, what I want to say in words, But I tried my best, anyway just found your channel and I already love it.
This whole diamond ordeal was bad from moment Ray became involved 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 great video though!
Bro, you be breaking shit down that I wouldn’t even think that would have to be broken down. Like @6:57 , I figured he just didn’t want to be near them so he wouldn’t be figured out by the cops. I didn’t even make the mafia connection! 🔥🔥 bro, you make me want to play GTA4 again.
It would’ve been cool if they did one more dlc and introduced the multiple character thing then and make a story where Niko Luis and Johnny have to work together to stay alive or something
It’s amazing how all 3 stories interconnect ❤
i love your videos, much love from switzerland ❤
my fav youtuber man great video are we doing strengths for Johnny Luis etc?
cant wait for your new videos
Your videos are dope!! Kero up the good work💯💯💯
Hey brother, NICE video. Hella done well and this certainly clears shit up for me. Thanks man.
But WHAAAT song starts playing at 6:58 and why does it sound so familiar?! Please someone get back 2 me on this..
You make long videos seem like short ones it’s amazing
32:01 "Wait am I in the shot ? Oh my bad..."
Also, amazing recap.
it’s crazy how it affected all three of them , shows how connected the crime world can be fr
i like how it ends with the homeless dude finding them because hes probably the one who needs them the most
Yeah I always wondered what happened to the money it makes sense if the lost moved out and started a new operation in sandy shores with it but they didn't explain what happened in tlad
Underrated youtuber
Ray as greedy unprofessional and overall stupid as he is was loyal he never double crossed anyone and looked out for anyone he worked with. He gave Brian up to Johnny and helped Niko find Florian, Johnny betrayed him and Niko smoked him (then again he was told not asked)
Hey please do a series like this on the herion the coke and the other shared storyline I forgot lol
Great video bro
I hope this channel gets Popular. You make good Videos.
This is great do more videos like this it’s awesome
I wonder what was Ray Boccino's reaction was when he learned that the diamonds were lost forever, though knowing his anger, it was likely not good.
We have not seen the last of this homeless man. I have a feeling he will be someone that will be able to purchase arms from. The Rockstar staff is pretty good at adding more lore to certain characters. I also feel like we will get more confirmations on alot of characters fates from GTA4&5.
the cursed diamonds of death.
GTA4 and all the DLC is the best GTA to me. Stories were so legit and the fact they all cross paths made it even better
Further tragic that the fact depending on Nico's choices, he's doomed to lose someone close to him, either his girlfriend of his cousin.
As for Johnny, well... Those that played story mode in GTA5 unfortunately knows about his final epilogue.
Johnny dying like that will never be truly canon to me, that was just crap how it was written up for him.
@@nicktubara The guy seemed to ultimately relent on his girlfriend's insistence to try the stuff she's been on... The timing couldn't have been worse once he met the unpredictable Trever.
@@SorcererLance johnny getting on meth is so unlike him as a character, he would never have gone near drugs at all no matter what the situation he was already going through at the time. It was lazy writing, to me johnny got his crap kicked outta him he laid unconcious for Ashley to bawl over him n it gave her a realisation that shè cared for him more than the drugs so she grabbed johnny got him in the car drove him to a nearby hospital to treat his injuries n she got into rehab right away. Johnny sought out help after he healed up n they both got each other to kick the habit n become better people.
That's how it went down, can't tell me otherwise.
@nicktubara I know I'm 3 months late but honestly Johnny's death is kinda like real life. There are some guys who do love/ simp for women like Ashley who they known their entire lives (childhood love) while also she brings him down to a very low-level because she's unaware of her own behavior/toxicity. Yes johnny would never do drugs not meth of all things but let's not forget that johnny love Ashley very much but couldn't see that the love was toxic/codependent which cause him to eventually or unfortunately do meth. It's like how we hear married couples get a divorce when the couples knew each other since high-school or middle-school. Life is unpredictable in-which you either escape your trap or get enclosed by it.
A gta 6 return of this diamond madness would be appreciated.
Since jerry kapowitz moved to vice city gta 6 might have something to do with the diamonds
thank god SOMEONE remembers that @@dontbelikeme9165
31:05 lol
Looks like they took some inspiration from Snatch, which is a great movie by the way.
"she xant speak we got a gag in her mouth!" Lol i swear packie has always been one of my favorite characters in the series hes hilariously cynical.
Appreciate the lore video bro! GTA 4 is the best gta
2:11 That's what he said.
When ray says don’t respect the waste management business he means teddy don’t have respect for the mafia and feels he don’t have to pay them waste management be code for mobbed up
Strong feeling we will Come across vercetti throughout the new grand theft
But you see how Ashley had Johnny head gone
Could you do a video on red dead redemption?
This whole story was clearly inspired by the movie snatch, in a good way
Best storyline in the series, Pulp Fiction style
W vids like always
Do a video over Franklin weakness to Tanisha and Tonia J B’s wife making him drive a truck for a company he owns
Do a video on the heroin story
From watching these Im gonna play GTA 4 again
The Diamond deal is my favourite part in this whole game.
34:50 what is the background song
And at 17:06
(In response to both of your comments) The pause menu theme for the Ballad of Gay Tony.
@@DaGenius99thank you
The way these 3 stories well far more than 3 but the way they intertwined is insane, such a masteful story. Johnny really made out the best woth all that money but bliws it on heroin whoops
This was the biggest side story in the whole game, The Diamond deal was about a good 1/3rd of the game.
17:20 Did Luis kill that guy or knock him out?
He knocked him out, and the guy appears again in “Late Checkout” in GTA 4 so that explains it.
i love these vids
Talk slower bro, or louder, but great video, hope to see more gta4 contant from you, keep it up
You know the game is good when people still make videos about it 16 years later
0:47
the deal will be so smoth and johnny will be still alive...it wasn't for luis lopez and gay tony.
Man i love gta 4
same
Ray was behind the diamonds, Phil was behind heroin deal. Both had problems on the way but Phil secured his. That's why Pegorino chose him to live.
i love watching your videos man keep it up😄
^ Rockstar Games related content❔yeah I’m definitely subscribing🤌🏼
Wow all that for a homeless man to find the diamonds 💎 in a trash….. Wow 😐🫢😭😂