Michael betrayed the bond between Trevor and him. Trevor felt disgusted and disillusioned with the notion that Michael would screw him over and hide from him for years. I guess you’re right about Trevor not caring ultimately that Brad died. It’s because Michael lied to him and set him up to be killed. Trevor felt betrayed before the truth was revealed, but his previous feelings (as you mentioned) manifested after discovering Brad’s death, because Trevor was supposed to be there instead.
The reasons why Trevor forgave Michael: 1. Michael quit being selfish 2. Trevor would never harm Michael's family 3. Brad never changed 4. The people against them were a lot worse 5. Loyalty towards Franklin
@@onetrackmind3558nah just because he was so loyal to him even though he was being set up to die by who he thought was his best friend and only true confidant
Do you also realize Michael had a family? He was trying to change and having trevor drag him down to the criminal world was not helping him. Yeah Michael did trevor dirty. Was there most likely a better way to tell trevor, most likely but realize tracy and jimmy were still kids he needed to put them first.
@@etv2045 im not saying that your wrong you feel me. I agree that Michael did it without any honor what so ever but one day you'll become a father i presume and want to protect your kids and im sure you dont want any cannibal that rapes people lol
What’s really disheartening about this though is that we know from ending A that Michael could have very easily been swayed into killing trevor. Plus the original plan in north Yankton was for Trevor to die, not brad. It just makes you wonder if Michael has ever really liked trevor or if the entire friendship was one sided. My point is ending c is nice but it feels weird because Michael was THIS close to just killing trevor
I think at one point they were actually friends, but Michael realizing how crazy brad and trevor were and them planning on ditching michael didn't make it easier(he interpereted it to wade in his story when they were going to los santos), and when trevor did return. michael wanted to get rid of trevor for the sole reason he knew how crazy trevor was, and was scared trevor would kill his family or take them as their own(which I highly doubt trevor would do, but I can see why michael thought that) but michael at the end did atleast somewhat make it up to trevor with the big score(you can't count michael playing a role in killing trevor as death wish was the canon ending but still shows michael was still paranoid about trevor) so I believe they were friends at one point, to michael fearing trevor(not in terms of being scared of dying or anything but terrified that trevor might kill his family or kill michael and take his place in the family)
@@jamesmata2945I never saw it that way. It’s not the same. Especially because Trevor did not want to kill Michael deep down let alone have someone else do it for him. Michael did it for his family. If you kill Michael then your just doing it for money and it’s not the same intent
They did like each other Michael was just scared of him even though he really should’ve been scared of Brad.. anyways he just thought Trevor had to be out the picture. It was nothing personal I don’t think.
i think its no deeper than michael being scared shitless of trevor, its no secret that trevor is a loose cannon and michael rationalizes in his fight or flight state that killing trevor is his only way to feel safe, but michael didnt want to kill trevor and this is seen in his interactions towards franklin after trevor’s death, hes angry at franklin and blames him for trevor dying (even if he is the one who shoots trevor) i see ending A as nothing more than michael making a rash impulsive decision on account of his extreme fear of trevor and not a reflection of his true feelings for him
"And he kinda got a little angry, I admit I kinda got a little angry." "Did you kill him?" "What kind of fucking animal do you take me for? No I didn't kill him." "But I did kidnap his wife." "Ohh no, oh shit" Classic
Part of the reason Trevor forgave Michael is because Trevor actually never found out the full extent of Michael's betrayal. He still doesn't know what happened, Trevor still thinks Michael "cut out a deal" after he got shot, since that's what Michael told him. He still doesn't know it was a setup from the start.
I really like how Brad lives in Trevor’s head like a ghost. That’s what it’s like when your friends die. It’s only natural that even though Trevor felt the loss of Michael very heavily, knowing he was alive he would do anything in his power to keep him alive. Even though he hates him, he loves him.
Just make sure you don't look up too much to a person because you will always get blinded by your admiration and respect for them and you will start to ignore their blatant disrespect for you.
@@fleas_lefthand and many many others keep talking about his loyalty or his fear of abandonment making him sympathetic. I can say he is a sympathetic character but I'm not gonna ignore outside his close friend group I would likely be a victim of him, even without angering dude and nobody talks about how unstable he is, dudes eating random flesh pie crap and not taking showers or taking care of himself proper, he ain't right
Many people saying also Michael dying was well deserved because he betrayed Trevor they forgot to think during the Hang Out dialogues between them Trevor did hate Brad and he would've killed him himself ( Brad was a known sadist and when in the prologue when he mentioned he killed a girl which promptly upsets Trevor and Michael that's why Trevor angrily shouted " BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH " ) Also Michael has a family and it's understandable why he wants to double cross them
Yeah, even by the moral standards of murderous criminals like Michael and Trevor, Brad was probably still the biggest piece of cr*p, and Trevor wasn´t really mad about his death because he liked him, but because Michael kept constantly lying to him.
Because Trevor knew is best friend he couldn’t kill him and when Franklin kill Michael you get a dialogue from Trevor you wanna take me out too Trevor wants nothing to do with Franklin after Michael was killed.
I think Steven Ogg did an Amazing Job as Trevor. it really sucks that He's so Tired of The Character. I felt like Michael did Trevor wrong and even though he's a Terrible Person I really Felt bad about the Anguish that Michael Put Trevor through.
@@IllMatic97 Well honestly what other roles is he supposed to be known for? He did some side characters for like 3 or 4 episodes of the walkind dead and better call saul, but thats it.
What’s funny is that actors Ned Luke (Michael) and Steven Ogg are great friends, but Ned Luke never liked Trevor as a character not because of Steven Ogg or anything but Trevor being a maniac not only that but Ned himself hates the line “you get a thousand things every day make sure it’s one of them” and his favourite line is “Surviving is winning” after they killed Trevor I’m sure most of people who play GTA 5 have chosen option c than option a and b I chose option C, because 1 Michael has a family and then Trevor misses Michael while being pissed off at Franklin, 2 I didn’t kill Trevor because there’s nothing stronger for men but loyalty and brotherhood and even tho both Michael and Trevor hated each other they knew killing each other ain’t gonna work and even Trevor knew that because he agreed with Jimmy about Mike
I think Michael is selfish. He’s always been selfish…it’s a part of his personality. I think he and Trevor have a friendship but it was formed by their crimes…so was it more of a partnership? I think so as Michael mentions dissolving the partnership in Bury the Hatchet. I think Trevor sees Michael fully as family and by extension the rest of the Townleys. He sees Tracey and Jimmy as his niece and nephew. The course of the game changes Michael’s selfishness. His eyes are opened to everyone around him and that improves his relationships with everyone.
Michael gets as angry if not angrier than Trevor in some moments and has a cruelty streak. As much as he likes to downplay Trevor, they’re both the perfect kind of terrible person for each other.
01:57 The jewel store job was a cheesy ahh heist too. Either you blitz or use ventilation to almost get out clean but ultimately come out on top. Either way, your escape route - even tho completed - was still tagged by the police; enough for Michael to have to truck them down. I'd keep in mind that Michael doesn't have the best ways out of things, probably why Trevor didn't initially think Michael betrayed him in North Yankton - and why Michael's life seems to escalate when Franklin meets him
Man. This reminds me how awesome GTAV story mode was. I'll have to play it again sometime. It's a shame really that the developers saw all the dollar signs in front of their eyes and went so hard into the "online" mode however, because we never got some story mode DLC which, had they done so, would have really tied a ribbon around the already stellar story campaign. But it is what it is, I guess.
I think Michael is harshly treated in the GTA V community imo. Him wanting Trevor dead and betraying him is 100% justified in my opinion. Anybody complaining about it, I don't understand them. Do you want someone who's unpredictable, crazy, psychotic, mentally unstable and filthy anywhere near your family? People forget, Michael did this for his family. There are many instances of Michael caring. He cares about Franklin. He cares about his family. He DIDN'T get Franklin involved with the FIB. Anyone claiming that clearly hasn't paid attention to the story. He offered a job for Franklin to earn lots of money and Franklin got caught in the crossfire of doing dirty work for the FIB after Michael got exposed. Michael tells Franklin to take off but Franklin's loyalty to Michael keeps him on his side. Even during Three's a Crowd, Michael tells Franklin to take off before him Trevor could meet properly. He doesn't want Franklin getting involved. Also a very subtle detail but in The Paleto Score heist, Michael throws Franklin on the train FIRST and then he climbs on, like a mentor would do for his protege ensuring Franklin is safe first. He even questions Trevor getting Franklin involved with chasing down the O Neil brothers. Trevor's completely unpredictable and psychotic personality and Brad's personality too is what got him to do what he had to do in the first place. He had a family to look after unlike the other two. Had he not had a family, I'd say he'd have continued his heist life given the fact that Michael unhesitantly sprung back into doing a heist to make money for Madrazzo. He doesn't want Madrazzo's men to come to his house, beat him up in front of his family or worse, kidnap his family. Imagine having Trevor amongst your family. Imagine being in Michael shoes at that moment. We see the loyal side of Trevor and his vulnerable side because we are the player and we get exposed to our playable protagonists' true natures. But has Michael seen that side of Trevor? Nope. From Michael's POV, Michael sees him as an unhinged psychopath who's mood can change at any moment and do something terrible. Come on. Any person with common sense knows they wouldn't be safe around him. Michael apologising to Trevor and treating him like a friend after Deathwish even after Trevor finds him? Trevor is lucky Michael didn't instantly shoot him the moment he entered his house. Trevor has abandonment issues, mental instability, difficult childhood and is loyal but so what? That doesn't excuse the horrible acts he does. Trevor is just as bad if not worser than Michael as the GTA community claims Michael is. There are even unused lines from Bury the Hatchet where Trevor suggests that he should kill Michael, kidnap his family and raise his kids as his own. Put yourself in Michael's shoes for a minute. If someone said that to you when you have a wife and kids, I wonder what you would do to ensure their safety from that person? Hmm. Loyalty is one of Trevor's great qualities whereas 80% of them make him a horrible person. Think about that for a second.
Trevor would never hurt Micheal or his family. Trevor cared about Jimmy. When Jim and trevor hang out Trevor refuses to go drinking with Jimmy. He may be crazy. But he’s loyal. Something Micheal isn’t
@Just.a.Random.furry. honestly, i can't blame Michael for not being loyal to Trevor it's justified because Trevor is sadistic psychotic cannibalistic bulldog who enjoys eating and killing people for fun and he also treats his other friends Ron, Wade and Floyd like they are his property and he also leaves Floyd to get beaten up by Marryweather. And when Michael does the same thing to Trevor. Trevor cries like a baby. Trevor is the most overrated and childish gta protagonist ever.
@Just.a.Random.furry. Michael is literally loyal to his family, Franklin, Solomon, Lester, and Dave Norton, and Just because he is disloyal to Trevor doesn't mean he doesn't loyalty. And it's not that necessary to be loyal to a psycho who you don't like that much and Michael has much more limits than Claude from gta 3.
One of the things you left out that proves it was never about brad was when Trevor told Franklin that he was probably going to kill brad himself down the line after Michael left.
Did Trevor ever find out that the heist in North Yankton was a set up between Michael and the FIB, to get Trevor killed? I don't think Trevor ever knew that the original plan was to get him killed and have Brad and Michael spared....which doesn't really make Michael's redemption complete.
6:36 🤣🤣 that's funny because playing a Trevor while in the underwater would've made it too convicting but he said the same thing while driving on Michael's car.
in the meet up they could done a Trevor punches michael knocking him down and saying..."Thats for making believe you were dead then pulls him up and punching him again " And that's for Brad" Once again fully helping him up would've been a lot better acting and gave more feel.
Naaaaah, I'd say MICHAEL is more like a 'modern Micah Bell with high honor' he's the one that set up the crew to be caught by law enforcement, not Trevor. but Micah did it for himself, while Michael did it for his family
@@exekon2536Trevor is very loyal so do I get where you’re coming from but I think Micah matches his personality more. I think a good honour Micah bell wouldn’t betray the gang and Micheal I would not say has good honour in the game (in a way I guess in a way none of them are good honour lol)
Trevor was insanely loyal because growing up he had no one. His parent was a deadbeat especially his mother being overbearing. Trevor felt that Michael and him was the same, but it was until Michael met Amanda that Trevor realized that they were a completely different person. Trevor could've been a Pilot with a stable life but wanted to be a Career Criminal and Michael did it because he got nothing else. Yet he choose to still go with Michael and introduced Brad to them despite knowing that Michael and Brad hated each other. Michael seemed to wanted out of the Crime life after he got Jimmy but was scared of Trevor. That's why he setup that killing, which in my opinion traumatized Trevor too, especially when he learned that he was supposed to be in the coffin and not Brad. I understand Trevor though, but i do understand Michael too, he got a family and there's no way he can continue that life.
I just thought about something, related to Trevor and him thinking Brad is alive Why would Brad be incarcerated in Bolingbroke penitentiary, in San Andreas, after being "arrested" in Ludendorff, North Yankton? That's the equivalent of getting caught robbing a bank in Bismarck, North Dakota, and being imprisoned just outside Los Angeles, California. Trevor should have sniffed this out at some point, especially with Ron next to him
2:38 I really like those pants that trevor is wearing, but where can I get them cuz I can't find them on my Xbox series s, is this for the PC version ?
Trevor forgave him, because he knew that Michael wasn't bad in the end. There's also a conversation at the end of the game if you hang out with Franklin, where he says that he would've killed Brad if he would've lived.
I mean even tho Michael betrayed Trevor, how many ppl can say they gotta successful bank robber friend tht made him a ton of money. Plus Michael knows most of Trevor’s crimes even unofficial ones. It’s logic to atleast remain close to Michael incase he does got stated again atleast Trevor will have an idea of it. 😭
Let’s be honest tho we all kno if Trevor rlly wanted to he would’ve killed Micheal Franklin Lester prolly the whole fib marry weather iaa Dave and Deven Trevor was a crazy mf💀
Can you make a video on why ray Bulgarian was angry about the diamonds I mean it’s obvious no one wants shit taken from them Tony says he richer than the church but he’s mad over 2 mil in diamonds 😂
He forgave him because the games story was lazy and shit. In all realism the story should have ended with one of them dying. Especially given how michael hated trevor and trevor hating disloyalty and michael being in with the feds. Option C shouldnt have even been there, it makes no sense
Franklin was going to die in option c, but issues behind the scenes caused things to turn out differently, so each ending would've had some form of consequence
![Michael & Trevor: Arguing like a Married Couple [Chapter 3]](/img/1.gif)
Michael betrayed the bond between Trevor and him. Trevor felt disgusted and disillusioned with the notion that Michael would screw him over and hide from him for years. I guess you’re right about Trevor not caring ultimately that Brad died. It’s because Michael lied to him and set him up to be killed. Trevor felt betrayed before the truth was revealed, but his previous feelings (as you mentioned) manifested after discovering Brad’s death, because Trevor was supposed to be there instead.
Plus I think Trevor thought Brad was too crazy
This is Why Love Trevor He as a Tremendous Story Arc
@@sophiacole61Trevor definitely stated that he felt like he would’ve ended up killing Brad at some point
Is that english?@@jalenikezeue4114
The reasons why Trevor forgave Michael:
1. Michael quit being selfish
2. Trevor would never harm Michael's family
3. Brad never changed
4. The people against them were a lot worse
5. Loyalty towards Franklin
Someone watched the professional
@@Itz_Puxe He's The GOAT
Michael never stopped being selfish, he scammed Franklin in their first heist. Manipulation, selfishness, and backstabbing is in Michael's nature.
@@dukecesareborgiaofvalencia I suppose you never played the Deathwish ending
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How did he scam Franklin? He paid him his share and later admitted he was working for the feds.
“I ain’t gonna leave you Mikey!” Hits different
Cause the voice actor wouldn't come back?
@@onetrackmind3558nah just because he was so loyal to him even though he was being set up to die by who he thought was his best friend and only true confidant
@@onetrackmind3558 Wdym he wouldn't come back?
@@wordedhalo6746 ah
@@wingadept8793 from what I've gathered the voice actor for Trevor doesn't want to voice him anymore cause he just sees him as a goofball.
I said it before and i said it again. Growing up is realizing that Michael did Trevor dirty.
Do you also realize Michael had a family? He was trying to change and having trevor drag him down to the criminal world was not helping him. Yeah Michael did trevor dirty. Was there most likely a better way to tell trevor, most likely but realize tracy and jimmy were still kids he needed to put them first.
@@brxken_samurai8530 your point is also valid. Thank you sir 👍🏾
@@etv2045 im not saying that your wrong you feel me. I agree that Michael did it without any honor what so ever but one day you'll become a father i presume and want to protect your kids and im sure you dont want any cannibal that rapes people lol
@@brxken_samurai8530Trevor prolly woulda tried tokill him too
@@brxken_samurai8530can’t even use the family excuse bc all Micheal did was ignore them most of the time
What’s really disheartening about this though is that we know from ending A that Michael could have very easily been swayed into killing trevor. Plus the original plan in north Yankton was for Trevor to die, not brad. It just makes you wonder if Michael has ever really liked trevor or if the entire friendship was one sided. My point is ending c is nice but it feels weird because Michael was THIS close to just killing trevor
I think at one point they were actually friends, but Michael realizing how crazy brad and trevor were and them planning on ditching michael didn't make it easier(he interpereted it to wade in his story when they were going to los santos), and when trevor did return. michael wanted to get rid of trevor for the sole reason he knew how crazy trevor was, and was scared trevor would kill his family or take them as their own(which I highly doubt trevor would do, but I can see why michael thought that) but michael at the end did atleast somewhat make it up to trevor with the big score(you can't count michael playing a role in killing trevor as death wish was the canon ending but still shows michael was still paranoid about trevor)
so I believe they were friends at one point, to michael fearing trevor(not in terms of being scared of dying or anything but terrified that trevor might kill his family or kill michael and take his place in the family)
I always liked A it's poetic justice even tho it makes Franklin a hypocrite
@@jamesmata2945I never saw it that way. It’s not the same. Especially because Trevor did not want to kill Michael deep down let alone have someone else do it for him. Michael did it for his family. If you kill Michael then your just doing it for money and it’s not the same intent
They did like each other Michael was just scared of him even though he really should’ve been scared of Brad.. anyways he just thought Trevor had to be out the picture. It was nothing personal I don’t think.
i think its no deeper than michael being scared shitless of trevor, its no secret that trevor is a loose cannon and michael rationalizes in his fight or flight state that killing trevor is his only way to feel safe, but michael didnt want to kill trevor and this is seen in his interactions towards franklin after trevor’s death, hes angry at franklin and blames him for trevor dying (even if he is the one who shoots trevor) i see ending A as nothing more than michael making a rash impulsive decision on account of his extreme fear of trevor and not a reflection of his true feelings for him
I’m glad this channel is rising as fast it is, your content is top tier, these in-depth analysis are so thorough. Can’t wait for the RDR2 content.
@Isuskraljhow he said, can’t wait for the RDR2 content
"And he kinda got a little angry, I admit I kinda got a little angry."
"Did you kill him?"
"What kind of fucking animal do you take me for? No I didn't kill him."
"But I did kidnap his wife."
"Ohh no, oh shit"
Classic
Part of the reason Trevor forgave Michael is because Trevor actually never found out the full extent of Michael's betrayal.
He still doesn't know what happened, Trevor still thinks Michael "cut out a deal" after he got shot, since that's what Michael told him. He still doesn't know it was a setup from the start.
Trevor is smart. He likely figured it out
I really like how Brad lives in Trevor’s head like a ghost. That’s what it’s like when your friends die. It’s only natural that even though Trevor felt the loss of Michael very heavily, knowing he was alive he would do anything in his power to keep him alive. Even though he hates him, he loves him.
"old friends can't be replaced" ❤
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Just make sure you don't look up too much to a person because you will always get blinded by your admiration and respect for them and you will start to ignore their blatant disrespect for you.
How you gonna edit out Trevor sizing up the yoga dude going "good lord" 😂
He sounded like Ghostface tbh 🤣🤣🤣
Because Brad was an asshole and deep down Trevor knew it. And Micheal did redeem himself to Trevor at the end of the game
Trevor's loyalty and his fear of abandonment is probably the two of his six traits that some people overlook imo
Dude those are the two traits people talk most about him having, tf you been?
@@purest_evilmany people are more focused on his anger issues and psychopathy
@@fleas_lefthand and many many others keep talking about his loyalty or his fear of abandonment making him sympathetic. I can say he is a sympathetic character but I'm not gonna ignore outside his close friend group I would likely be a victim of him, even without angering dude and nobody talks about how unstable he is, dudes eating random flesh pie crap and not taking showers or taking care of himself proper, he ain't right
Many people saying also Michael dying was well deserved because he betrayed Trevor
they forgot to think during the Hang Out dialogues between them Trevor did hate Brad and he would've killed him himself
( Brad was a known sadist and when in the prologue when he mentioned he killed a girl which promptly upsets Trevor and Michael that's why Trevor angrily shouted " BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH " )
Also Michael has a family and it's understandable why he wants to double cross them
Yeah, even by the moral standards of murderous criminals like Michael and Trevor, Brad was probably still the biggest piece of cr*p, and Trevor wasn´t really mad about his death because he liked him, but because Michael kept constantly lying to him.
Trevor kills so many people, but he can’t kill Michael. It shows how much he loves him.
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Because Trevor knew is best friend he couldn’t kill him and when Franklin kill Michael you get a dialogue from Trevor you wanna take me out too Trevor wants nothing to do with Franklin after Michael was killed.
I think Steven Ogg did an Amazing Job as Trevor. it really sucks that He's so Tired of The Character.
I felt like Michael did Trevor wrong and even though he's a Terrible Person I really Felt bad about the Anguish that Michael Put Trevor through.
Ogg just doesn't want his Trevor role be the only role he's known for.
@@IllMatic97 Well honestly what other roles is he supposed to be known for? He did some side characters for like 3 or 4 episodes of the walkind dead and better call saul, but thats it.
I think it’s cuz Ogg wants to be known as Ogg rather than being referred to as Trevor. The guy wants to be recognized as himself rather than Trevor.
The guy plays the same angry character in his biggest roles it’s hard for people to not consider him as trevor
What’s funny is that actors Ned Luke (Michael) and Steven Ogg are great friends, but Ned Luke never liked Trevor as a character not because of Steven Ogg or anything but Trevor being a maniac not only that but Ned himself hates the line “you get a thousand things every day make sure it’s one of them” and his favourite line is “Surviving is winning” after they killed Trevor
I’m sure most of people who play GTA 5 have chosen option c than option a and b
I chose option C, because 1 Michael has a family and then Trevor misses Michael while being pissed off at Franklin, 2 I didn’t kill Trevor because there’s nothing stronger for men but loyalty and brotherhood and even tho both Michael and Trevor hated each other they knew killing each other ain’t gonna work and even Trevor knew that because he agreed with Jimmy about Mike
I think Michael is selfish. He’s always been selfish…it’s a part of his personality. I think he and Trevor have a friendship but it was formed by their crimes…so was it more of a partnership? I think so as Michael mentions dissolving the partnership in Bury the Hatchet.
I think Trevor sees Michael fully as family and by extension the rest of the Townleys.
He sees Tracey and Jimmy as his niece and nephew.
The course of the game changes Michael’s selfishness. His eyes are opened to everyone around him and that improves his relationships with everyone.
1:24 that slow motion was outta pocket 😂😂😂
What's in your PFP, dude?!
@@TheFunnyDictator a rat drinking beer
@@ceh4190 Is that supposed to be Micah?
@@ceh4190 Where'd you get that image from?
@@TheFunnyDictator I found it on a meme you can probably find it on the internet somewhere
Michael gets as angry if not angrier than Trevor in some moments and has a cruelty streak. As much as he likes to downplay Trevor, they’re both the perfect kind of terrible person for each other.
Trevor said it himself “just because you feel guilty about what you do and I don’t that doesn’t make you any better than me”
27:00 such a good scene, with your analysis i hope it gets more recognition, gta 5's story is always undermined but i really love it
01:57 The jewel store job was a cheesy ahh heist too. Either you blitz or use ventilation to almost get out clean but ultimately come out on top.
Either way, your escape route - even tho completed - was still tagged by the police; enough for Michael to have to truck them down. I'd keep in mind that Michael doesn't have the best ways out of things, probably why Trevor didn't initially think Michael betrayed him in North Yankton - and why Michael's life seems to escalate when Franklin meets him
What's in your profile picture, dude?
@@TheFunnyDictator Will Smith deadshot, I think it's funny
@@DeadEye42069 Who is Deadshot? A villain? Is he played by Will Smith? What movie is he in?
@@TheFunnyDictator Suicide Squad, with Jared Leto
@@TheFunnyDictator Pretty confusing cause there's "The Suicide Squad" but that's the second one without Jared Leto
it's crazy steven ogg doesn't like this character he literally made his longevity invincible imagine gta5 with out trevor
Man. This reminds me how awesome GTAV story mode was. I'll have to play it again sometime. It's a shame really that the developers saw all the dollar signs in front of their eyes and went so hard into the "online" mode however, because we never got some story mode DLC which, had they done so, would have really tied a ribbon around the already stellar story campaign. But it is what it is, I guess.
You didn't mention the secret dialogue with Trevor and Franklin from Hood Safari
What does he say?
@@HoelyneCuntjoh I think that he would've killed brad wayyyy after the heisy
I think Michael is harshly treated in the GTA V community imo. Him wanting Trevor dead and betraying him is 100% justified in my opinion. Anybody complaining about it, I don't understand them. Do you want someone who's unpredictable, crazy, psychotic, mentally unstable and filthy anywhere near your family?
People forget, Michael did this for his family. There are many instances of Michael caring. He cares about Franklin. He cares about his family. He DIDN'T get Franklin involved with the FIB. Anyone claiming that clearly hasn't paid attention to the story. He offered a job for Franklin to earn lots of money and Franklin got caught in the crossfire of doing dirty work for the FIB after Michael got exposed. Michael tells Franklin to take off but Franklin's loyalty to Michael keeps him on his side. Even during Three's a Crowd, Michael tells Franklin to take off before him Trevor could meet properly. He doesn't want Franklin getting involved. Also a very subtle detail but in The Paleto Score heist, Michael throws Franklin on the train FIRST and then he climbs on, like a mentor would do for his protege ensuring Franklin is safe first. He even questions Trevor getting Franklin involved with chasing down the O Neil brothers.
Trevor's completely unpredictable and psychotic personality and Brad's personality too is what got him to do what he had to do in the first place. He had a family to look after unlike the other two. Had he not had a family, I'd say he'd have continued his heist life given the fact that Michael unhesitantly sprung back into doing a heist to make money for Madrazzo. He doesn't want Madrazzo's men to come to his house, beat him up in front of his family or worse, kidnap his family. Imagine having Trevor amongst your family. Imagine being in Michael shoes at that moment. We see the loyal side of Trevor and his vulnerable side because we are the player and we get exposed to our playable protagonists' true natures. But has Michael seen that side of Trevor? Nope. From Michael's POV, Michael sees him as an unhinged psychopath who's mood can change at any moment and do something terrible. Come on. Any person with common sense knows they wouldn't be safe around him. Michael apologising to Trevor and treating him like a friend after Deathwish even after Trevor finds him? Trevor is lucky Michael didn't instantly shoot him the moment he entered his house. Trevor has abandonment issues, mental instability, difficult childhood and is loyal but so what? That doesn't excuse the horrible acts he does. Trevor is just as bad if not worser than Michael as the GTA community claims Michael is. There are even unused lines from Bury the Hatchet where Trevor suggests that he should kill Michael, kidnap his family and raise his kids as his own. Put yourself in Michael's shoes for a minute. If someone said that to you when you have a wife and kids, I wonder what you would do to ensure their safety from that person? Hmm.
Loyalty is one of Trevor's great qualities whereas 80% of them make him a horrible person. Think about that for a second.
Trevor would never hurt Micheal or his family. Trevor cared about Jimmy. When Jim and trevor hang out Trevor refuses to go drinking with Jimmy.
He may be crazy. But he’s loyal.
Something Micheal isn’t
@@Just.a.Random.furry. Michael is loyal to what matters, protecting his family.
@Just.a.Random.furry. honestly, i can't blame Michael for not being loyal to Trevor it's justified because Trevor is sadistic psychotic cannibalistic bulldog who enjoys eating and killing people for fun and he also treats his other friends Ron, Wade and Floyd like they are his property and he also leaves Floyd to get beaten up by Marryweather. And when Michael does the same thing to Trevor. Trevor cries like a baby. Trevor is the most overrated and childish gta protagonist ever.
@Just.a.Random.furry. Michael is literally loyal to his family, Franklin, Solomon, Lester, and Dave Norton, and Just because he is disloyal to Trevor doesn't mean he doesn't loyalty. And it's not that necessary to be loyal to a psycho who you don't like that much and Michael has much more limits than Claude from gta 3.
One of the things you left out that proves it was never about brad was when Trevor told Franklin that he was probably going to kill brad himself down the line after Michael left.
i wonder if trevor ever realized that brad took the bullet meant for him, and michael agreed with dave that trevor be killed….
Great work on these videos bro! I been playing GTA since 2001. I'm 31 now
32:28 a moment of silence 😢 for this random guy tht got knocked out by Trevor
Did Trevor ever find out that the heist in North Yankton was a set up between Michael and the FIB, to get Trevor killed? I don't think Trevor ever knew that the original plan was to get him killed and have Brad and Michael spared....which doesn't really make Michael's redemption complete.
Thanks for making these vids, back in 2013 I was to young to understand certain details. Cool to get a run down years later 😅
6:36 🤣🤣 that's funny because playing a Trevor while in the underwater would've made it too convicting but he said the same thing while driving on Michael's car.
Plot twist: Lester is actually Brad. The corpse in the coffin is fake
in the meet up they could done a Trevor punches michael knocking him down and saying..."Thats for making believe you were dead then pulls him up and punching him again " And that's for Brad" Once again fully helping him up would've been a lot better acting and gave more feel.
Trevor is like a modern Micah Bell that has good honour
Naaaaah, I'd say MICHAEL is more like a 'modern Micah Bell with high honor'
he's the one that set up the crew to be caught by law enforcement, not Trevor. but Micah did it for himself, while Michael did it for his family
@@exekon2536Trevor is very loyal so do I get where you’re coming from but I think Micah matches his personality more. I think a good honour Micah bell wouldn’t betray the gang and Micheal I would not say has good honour in the game (in a way I guess in a way none of them are good honour lol)
@@exekon2536 Michael is more like John Marston that Micah Bell
Trevor was insanely loyal because growing up he had no one. His parent was a deadbeat especially his mother being overbearing. Trevor felt that Michael and him was the same, but it was until Michael met Amanda that Trevor realized that they were a completely different person. Trevor could've been a Pilot with a stable life but wanted to be a Career Criminal and Michael did it because he got nothing else. Yet he choose to still go with Michael and introduced Brad to them despite knowing that Michael and Brad hated each other. Michael seemed to wanted out of the Crime life after he got Jimmy but was scared of Trevor. That's why he setup that killing, which in my opinion traumatized Trevor too, especially when he learned that he was supposed to be in the coffin and not Brad. I understand Trevor though, but i do understand Michael too, he got a family and there's no way he can continue that life.
The reason why Michael didn't like Brad is because Brad is the biggest sadistic scumbag who enjoys violence of hurting other people.
I love your channel man, you make excellent content. Keep up the good work!
14:07. Oh no 🇮🇹🤌🏼
10:47 trevor dancing while being sentimental XD
This channel is gonna explode soon honestly
17:33 I love that he just calls jimmy to be like "he's MINE now"
These are my favorite types of videos from you! Great work!
Its B$. Between Michael and Trevor there always was a "fake" friendship. Michael would always be open to betrayal if something goes wrong
Knowing Trevor now it’s hard to hate him
Loving your videos, recently started a new play through and it’s been fun.
32:28 😂😂😂😂😂 he slumped that man wit one punch left him posing like he was crucified 😂😂😂😂😂
A moment of silence for this random guy he was just walking down the sidewalk n then got pressed n knocked out FOR NO REASON 😢
"T, you gotta get outta here."
"Ain't gonna leave you Mikey!"
I just thought about something, related to Trevor and him thinking Brad is alive
Why would Brad be incarcerated in Bolingbroke penitentiary, in San Andreas, after being "arrested" in Ludendorff, North Yankton?
That's the equivalent of getting caught robbing a bank in Bismarck, North Dakota, and being imprisoned just outside Los Angeles, California. Trevor should have sniffed this out at some point, especially with Ron next to him
He could've had warrants. It's also common for long incarceration to hold the prisoner in another state
15:16 there were two Ron's for a minute
Was that dave who killed brad and was dave in on the hesit just to save Michael
nice vids i subscribed i liked the one on elizabeta from gta 4 as well
these videos are incredibly well made and inspiring
I'm only a few seconds in but I love your videos haven't missed a single one keep the grind up
We need GTA IV
he already did some on gta 4, wdym
30:14 why did you slow this down 😂 lmfao
2:38 I really like those pants that trevor is wearing, but where can I get them cuz I can't find them on my Xbox series s, is this for the PC version ?
I think it’s at binco
@Miggie_Wiggie I tried there, and it wasn't there
@@Dixon-w3z hey kinday late but im pretty sure it must be from ponsonbys, it looks fancy
@stamatiawashere97 thanks for showing up but I tried that and it's not there either
Trevor forgave him, because he knew that Michael wasn't bad in the end. There's also a conversation at the end of the game if you hang out with Franklin, where he says that he would've killed Brad if he would've lived.
This guy would make a fucking tip top therapist
You just gained a subscriber in me bro💪🏾
I don’t care Trevor was the loyal friend.. he held all them down
What’s your opinion on the comparison of Manny from gts 4 and og loc from san andreas?
How'd you get the TPI and Love Fist shirts for Trevor? Mods? Or are they in-game somewhere.
bruh 9:37 my frankin literally has the exact same style
Bruh
Love your content. Keep up the good work !
Can you do one on the epsilon program Michael goes to?
What store do you find Trevor suits ?
This is gold lover, do more videos like this
I love this channel!
This just goes on to show how Trevor is the best
I mean even tho Michael betrayed Trevor, how many ppl can say they gotta successful bank robber friend tht made him a ton of money. Plus Michael knows most of Trevor’s crimes even unofficial ones. It’s logic to atleast remain close to Michael incase he does got stated again atleast Trevor will have an idea of it. 😭
Let’s be honest tho we all kno if Trevor rlly wanted to he would’ve killed Micheal Franklin Lester prolly the whole fib marry weather iaa Dave and Deven Trevor was a crazy mf💀
How do u make your Trevor’s mullet look like that
Jumpscare warning pls💀13:47
Can you make a video on why ray Bulgarian was angry about the diamonds I mean it’s obvious no one wants shit taken from them Tony says he richer than the church but he’s mad over 2 mil in diamonds 😂
13:02 why is this at the air field
U can say alot but in the end trevor was the most loyal of the three
We all know that Trevor forgave Michael because of Michael`s kids.
Michael really did betray Trevor.. at least Michael should have phoned Trevor that he is alive or something🤦🏽♂️
I dont fucking get how gta 6 going to have a better plot than gta 5 with lucia
bro cuts out the best lines, scared of being striked or something by youtube?
Hogg is just perfect
keep these coming
Trevor gotta momma issues
Videos are fire bro 🫡💯
good video but please don't put your mouth so close to the microphone, it sounds like you want to eat the micro
"OH NO, OH SHIT" got me lmao
he shouldnt've forgave him
Because bros forgive bros
I would never forgive Michael
Did somebody say yoga
why tf this mf running playdough bruh ☠w vid tho
He forgave him because the games story was lazy and shit. In all realism the story should have ended with one of them dying. Especially given how michael hated trevor and trevor hating disloyalty and michael being in with the feds. Option C shouldnt have even been there, it makes no sense
Franklin was going to die in option c, but issues behind the scenes caused things to turn out differently, so each ending would've had some form of consequence