Oscar Pistorius's and Reeva Steenkamp's messages show cycle of abuse

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @enlightenedone777
    @enlightenedone777 10 лет назад +22

    Reeva has been in an abusive relationship before and she attracted an abusive relationship again. Oscar was a jealous obsessed and controlling man. The text prove this. 9 times out of 10 he was mad that she had lunch with her ex on 2-12-13 when he call several times to check on her which possessive men do.
    THis was a crime a passion, and jealousy is the key here. Reeva was a sweet girl and oscar could not handle her beauty.
    Beware of the man that treats you like a princess....... he could be an abuser.

    • @MikeLacey
      @MikeLacey 10 лет назад +2

      Agreed. The defense made a lot of Reeva's valentine card to OP but where was OP's card to Reeva? and what plans IF ANY had he made for Reeva for valentines day?? No mention of this by OP or his defense team in court. Disturbing??

  • @MikeLacey
    @MikeLacey 10 лет назад +21

    We could talk about this case forever but my view is that it comes down to just a very few facts. Fact: No intruder. Fact: Reeva walks/runs into bathroom at 3-15am with her phone? Fact: She then slams open the bathroom window?. Fact: She then walks/runs into toilet and slams door closed and locks herself in. Question: WHY??

    • @truthseeker-777
      @truthseeker-777 3 года назад +5

      Because he was losing it, she was scared and she was going to call for help on her phone of course. Sadly, she never got the chance.

  • @alisonwilliams4862
    @alisonwilliams4862 5 лет назад +11

    I thought that a couple of Reeva's long messages after their arguments sounded like she was having to justify herself to him and gave the impression that Oscar was a bit jealous. The 'I am not a stripper or a ho' sentence suggests that Oscar called her those things or at least implied it. Having public arguments only 3 months into a relationship doesn't seem that healthy.

  • @amcfadden813
    @amcfadden813 10 лет назад +15

    One must always keep in mind Oscar and Reeva were only together 3 short months. With a lot of that period being apart. He was already towards the end of the third month trying to control Reeva more and more. He is a classic NPD.

  • @truthseeker-777
    @truthseeker-777 3 года назад +1

    This lady is spot on.

  • @jorgeds9243
    @jorgeds9243 10 лет назад +3

    beautiful explained ,beautiful

  • @deanamalfitano3126
    @deanamalfitano3126 10 лет назад +2

    Spot on

  • @12boocat55
    @12boocat55 10 лет назад +3

    as far as we know, pistorius has never been in a serious, long-term relationship to demonstrate his emotional history. "Perhaps" they were oil&water, he wanted a trophy to add to his horses, cars, houses, watches, etc.etc...she wasn't absolutely certain...who knows, but something or someone sparked the incident.

  • @christogrobbelaar6898
    @christogrobbelaar6898 10 лет назад +6

    Aware or not, it comes down to pre-meditated.

    • @IanP1963
      @IanP1963 6 лет назад +1

      It doesn't just lack of anger management !!!

  • @HaveYouHeardMe
    @HaveYouHeardMe 10 лет назад +5

    *RE-READ THIS....I had time to edit it!*
    edited 5/2/14 (5:49 am)
    *Oscar supporting Reeva Financially!*
    written 5/1/14 (7:08 am)
    I heard in another video where either Roux or Prosecutor Nel or perhaps both, talked somewhat BRIEFLY about how Oscar was financially supporting Reeva and her mother and I believe that played a HUGE part in Oscar's INFLATED EGO as well as with Reeva putting up with things from Oscar that she REALLY didn't want to put up with. When a person is at the mercy of someone else, for whatever reason and have no other alternatives, they may find themselves putting up with stuff that they really don't want too. They may also PRETEND that everything is fine when it's NOT. Speaking out against certain dislikes while at the mercy of your provider could risk them withdrawing their support and leaving you stuck out COLD and that would be a VERY HORRIBLE THING to happen to ANYONE, especially someone who is FAMOUS and in the public's eye.
    To Reeva, I believe that being FAMOUS and BROKE would have been absolutely TORMENTING and HUMILIATING and although Reeva had landed her own television show, Reeva STILL needed Oscar's financial support until her 1st check came or until ENOUGH money came to help her catch up on her bills. So, despite the fact that financial help was on the way, Reeva speaking out the way that she perhaps REALLY wanted too, was NOT exactly feasible. So, Reeva found a way to DEAL with Oscar's verbal abuse until she was able to FREE herself from Oscar and from his abusive nature. I'll go on to say that Reeva put up with Oscar's abuse as long as she could and when she could NOT deal with things anymore (while in the heat of the argument), she told Oscar the truth about how she REALLY felt and Oscar didn't like it.
    Nevertheless, being in a position where others have power over your livelihood can be EXTREMELY TORMENTING and HUMILIATING being that SOME people just LOVE to KICK OTHERS and make them gravel on the ground and LICK THEIR FEET for what they NEED. Also, the person in the position of NEED, may NOT complain for FEAR of NOT getting anything AT ALL from the abusive person. Nevertheless, when other opportunities become available, the pressure and TORMENT of what the victim went through, makes it SUPER EASY to leave the burden of their abuser(s) behind.
    In Oscar's and Reeva's situation, I believe that's what happened, among other things. Oscar had MANY things troubling him in regard to his and Reeva's relationship. Reeva was TOO MUCH for Oscar and Oscar knew this but would NOT let Reeva know this. In another video, while Oscar was testifying, he spoke about how he 1st met Reeva and how he invited her to an event for the 1st time. If you listen to Oscar, you will notice how Oscar begins to say that he never thought a woman like Reeva....and then he cuts his conversation off from saying what he REALLY was about to say AND then begun TAILORING his testimony. Well, the Lord let me know that Oscar was ABOUT to say that he NEVER thought a woman like Reeva would want to go out with him and be with him but then Oscar saw the net that he was putting himself in and that he was making himself look as though he was SMALLER than Reeva, which is HOW he REALLY felt to which was also the BASICS of the argument before he KILLED Reeva and then Oscar hesitated a little and then QUICKLY tailored his testimony and said that he didn't think Reeva would want to go to the function because she was a woman and because of the nature of the function - CARS.
    You can reference Oscar's testimony in the video where Oscar begins testifying and talking about his and Reeva's 1st date. Oscar said he had an AMAZING time and even seemed to have been BLOWN AWAY by Reeva's presence as he looked back. Well, we know that the function was about cars and that could make one say, "Oh but she's a girl. He's a guy. I can understand him thinking that she would NOT want to go." BUT the Lord told me the TRUTH about how Oscar REALLY felt and I explained it above. Reeva was very different from the other girls that Oscar went out with. Reeva was SO MUCH MORE and Oscar knew that. Oscar also knew that in order to hold a person like Reeva and make her interested in him, a guy with NO legs as he saw himself, he would HAVE to have some type of MIND CONTROL over Reeva and that's what Oscar used mostly when controlling Reeva, MIND CONTROL and kind gestures to make Reeva believe that he REALLY cared about her in a healthy way but he didn't. Oscar gave Reeva enough MONEY and ATTENTION to keep Reeva from wanting to leave him as well as ENOUGH VERBAL ABUSE to make her feel SMALL ENOUGH to WANT to stay with him. Nevertheless, I know that Oscar REALLY did care for Reeva at some point but NOT in a healthy way and his PLOT to KEEP and CONTROL Reeva was there, shortly from the beginning, when he SIZED Reeva up and SEEN that Reeva was TOO MUCH for him.
    Anyway, so, NOW Oscar scored BIG TIME with Reeva. Oscar had an AMAZING time on his 1st date and was super excited. Oscar had JUST had a LOVERS QUARREL with Samantha Taylor and NOW has a beautiful girl on his arms - Reeva Steenkamp and REALLY wants it to work so that HE can get over Samantha Taylor and Oscar sees REEVA as the PERFECT candidate to help him do so. So, Oscar continues to call Reeva and they begin dating but there's a problem, Oscar begins dating Reeva and discovers that REEVA is FAR MORE intelligent and wise and GREATER in character than what he even perceived at the SURFACE when he 1st DISCERNED that Reeva was TOO MUCH for him AND on top of that, Oscar seen that Reeva was better than ANY of the women that he had EVER dated and better than ANY of the women who he was USE to CONTROLLING and and while talking about controlling, I just want to say that some of the OTHER women who Oscar dated, may NOT have even NOTICED that they were being controlled so much by Oscar because they were MUSHY anyway and due to the SUBSTANCE in their CHARACTER, Oscar's controlling nature perhaps felt absolutely NORMAL and like Oscar was just being protective and concerned because he LOVED and CARED for them, verses Oscar being controlling JUST to stroke his EGO.
    While on the subject of control, you have to realize that NONE of the other women who Oscar dated, were GREATER than Reeva, therefore, Oscar did NOT even HAVE to use the same amount of ABUSE and CONTROL with them as he did with Reeva. Also, in the what's up app, Reeva put things VERY NICELY but was STILL under Oscar's control because Oscar was supporting her and her mother financially and I will tell you another big secrete in another post about Reeva's mother but I don't want us to get off of THIS subject so just come back to my blog and read frequently.
    Anyway, to keep Reeva in his clutches, Oscar begun DEGRADING Reeva and at a certain point, he figured that he had PROGRAMMED Reeva to feel SMALLER than him so she would NOT want to leave him. NOW Reeva was RIGHT where Oscar needed her to be in order for HIM to feel WHOLE and in CONTROL of their relationship but then things turned SOUR for Oscar when the world saw something VERY SPECIAL in Reeva. Oscar begin to struggle with Reeva wiggling out of his clutches but Oscar NEVER told Reeva what his concerns were, that ONE DAY SOON, he FEARED that she would get FREE and come to know TRUE love that was FAR DIFFERENT from the TORMENT that HE was serving to Reeva as love. Oscar NOW has a LOT of things that HE is struggling with. Oscar knew that he had NOT treated Reeva the way that he SHOULD have and when Oscar saw the WORLD embrace Reeva's beauty and personality and uniqueness of character, thus giving Reeva her own Reality Show, Oscar couldn't handle it. Oscar did NOT know HOW to WARP Reeva BAD ENOUGH in order to MANIPULATE her MIND into BELIEVING that the TORMENT that he was giving her was love because NOW Reeva had been exposed to TRUE LOVE from the WORLD which was something BETTER than the TORMENT that HE caused her and on top of that, I sincerely believe that things got SO HEATED during the argument until Reeva was breaking up with Oscar and she gained support to break up with him, from other financial options which were SOON becaming available and among other things, KNOWING that Reeva could make it WITHOUT Oscar caused Oscar to become OUTRAGED!
    In the process of being DUMPED, I believe that Oscar felt cheated. Oscar put a LOT of energy in DEGRADING Reeva and trying to make her feel SMALLER than him so that she would stay under HIS control and on top of that, the Lord told me that Oscar was suffering from sexual incompetence and the HUMILIATION TORMENTED him. So NOW Oscar is dealing with HUMILITY beyond his control (sexual incompetence) and was also dealing with the PAIN of having ALL of the power that he had over Reeva, being suddenly RIPPED from him because Reeva had been established INSTANTLY by the LOVE of the world and REALLY didn't NEED Oscar anymore but to Oscar, HE created Reeva and made her be who she is because he was supporting her and DEGRADING her to keep her beneath him but to see Reeva actually BRANCH OUT beyond his DEMONIC CONTROL and become someone GREAT before the nation, someone who HE could NO LONGER control with his ARROGANCE and MONEY and by DEGRADING her, Oscar felt TOTALLY incompetent. Oscar was so USE to being in control and had already invested SO MUCH ABUSE & MONEY into Reeva and when Reeva perhaps told him it was over and RIGHT before her reality show, then Oscar became EVEN MORE OUTRAGED!
    Oscar wasn't READY for Reeva's success. That's why things between Oscar and Reeva got WORSE as Reeva's Reality show came closer to airing. It is to my understanding that Reeva and Oscar fought via texts 2 weeks prior to Reeva's death. Reeva's reality show was ALREADY set to air 2 days AFTER Reeva's death and it did but we know that Oscar is relieved because Reeva is NOT around to feel the FREEDOM of LOVE from the world through her show. Oscar wanted Reeva to feel his TORMENT, SELFISHNESS and CONTROL as LOVE. Oscar didn't want a POWERFUL and BEAUTIFUL woman like Reeva to be FREE and know TRUE LOVE. Oscar was VERY SELFISH. HE wanted to WARP Reeva and PROGRAM Reeva to know true love based on how HE put it to her. Oscar wanted Reeva to see his SELFISHNESS, TORMENT and CONTROL as TRUE LOVE and PRIOR to Reeva's reality show, Oscar figured that he ACCOMPLISHED that and that he had EVERYTHING under HIS control. Yet, when Reeva told Oscar in a text that they were a struggle and that she was certainly NOT happy. Oscar suddenly got NERVOUS and felt THREATENED that Reeva was LEAVING him and then quickly texted Reeva back and tried to repair things because Oscar KNEW that being DUMPED right before Reeva's Reality Show would NOT look good at ALL and that it would HUMILIATE and TORMENT him before the world.
    On top of that, Reeva being POWERFUL and Beautiful and feeling LOVED by MASSES of people was FAR TOO MUCH for Oscar to CONTROL and Oscar was TOO SMALL in character to EMBRACE Reeva and the BLESSED things that were happening to her - reality show! So, NOW Oscar is PRESSURED with NOT having enough TIME to WARP Reeva and DEGRADE her WELL ENOUGH to make her feel SMALL and stay under HIS control and all of such contributed to Oscar killing Reeva.
    Another thing, Oscar didn't want things to be over because he and Samantha Taylor had just had a lovers quarrel and perhaps broken up and Oscar didn't want to wear EGG on his face or make it to SEEM LIKE payback had come to him for breaking up with Samantha Taylor by just appearing with Reeva at a function. Oscar testified that Samantha Taylor cheated on him and told him that she slept with a guy but did that really happen? We know that Samantha Taylor didn't say ANYTHING of that nature when she testified. We also LEARNED that Oscar is a habitual LIAR and his circumstances - being in the MURDER SEAT - have a LOT to do with it but the SKILLFULNESS of his lies and how he has the ability to QUICKLY form lies in MANY tight situations, tells you a LOT about him and his character.
    I'm NOT at all saying that Oscar's lies are FLAWLESS because they are NOT. They are ridiculous and don't make sense AND they often get him into FURTHER trouble and HANGS him RELIGIOUSLY! However, I'm referencing Oscar's character and his WICKED nature, his ABILITY to FORM lies SO EFFORTLESSLY. That particular behavior stems from a demonic seed that in him. Such traits are the foundation of Satan.
    Some people are of the LIE that we are ALL God's children but JESUS CHRIST set THAT record straight. In the book of (John 8:44-45) the Lord says,
    "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me (John 8:44-45)." - Jesus.
    Stay tuned for MORE upcoming insight on the Reeva Steenkamp and Oscar Pistorius case.

    • @bethechangeyouwannaseeinth9488
      @bethechangeyouwannaseeinth9488 8 лет назад +3

      +HaveYouHeard www.MagHog.com wowww so long...ok..so basically he was abusive and she was in needy for money so she just let him in a way..and he knew this...so..she was using him and playing him..he really felt for her..she took advantage of him..both sides were dirthy
      ?!

    • @IanP1963
      @IanP1963 6 лет назад +3

      Can't be bothered sorry !!!!

  • @katykate137
    @katykate137 10 лет назад

    I have received an email from a Michael Stone... don't know him, and want no communication from him... where are the moderators on this site. How dare he cast judgement on my life... please block him. I am entitled to my view and so is he but I do not expect emails in my in box from people I do not know. Sort this out RUclips thank you

    • @MikeLacey
      @MikeLacey 10 лет назад

      Truth hurts which is the reason why OP keeps telling lies about the events of that faithful night.

  • @ainemairead4542
    @ainemairead4542 10 лет назад

    What she is saying is true. "BUT" it is the interview was slanted for pro prosecution propaganda purposes. She doesnt know the text messages either so she cant say what was a honeymoon phase and what was loving. She was pushing propaganda toward the end of the Video. Did you see how her voice hesitated???????

  • @user-bj2lu9qt3o
    @user-bj2lu9qt3o 4 года назад

    That "expert" should know what she does here is really really bad...

  • @user-jr2ue9nu6y
    @user-jr2ue9nu6y 3 года назад +1

    Controversial opinion do you think Reeva would not have dated Oscar if it wasn't for he increasing flashy lifestyle-his rise to fame? And did she gravitate (fall in love) with him for his start status or him as a person? How else do you explain she getting involved with someone who was abusive?

  • @raya7715
    @raya7715 10 лет назад +4

    It's a normal in any relationships! more or less it goes both way! What make you people so know what really happened behind that door?! Before you want to judge why don't try to be a good judgement? If Reeva was so scared of Pistorius why on earth would she even texted and asked him what he has plan for his love on the valentine's day! No one knows what really happened behind that door!!!

    • @nikkid4890
      @nikkid4890 4 года назад +2

      Guess who was found guilty of culpable homicide? Oscar@

    • @melisentiapheiffer3034
      @melisentiapheiffer3034 11 месяцев назад +1

      He intentionally killed her.