@@mrbaconanimations4229 Anyone can do that so I'd say you're good. Only thing is they'll put you in as an 11X. Everyone whose infantry gets that, then the Army decides if you're a mortman or you'll be shooting your rifle.
Basically don't get an 18X contract. Pick a job you are interested in and then drop your SF packet. At least if you wash out you can fall back on your normal MOS.
@@dreamyworld4111 you could. It just depends on where HRC wants to put you. If you are an 11B you will go to an infantry unit though. I am a 68W and I went to an infantry battalion for my first duty station. 🤷♂️
Join 19th or 20th Group in the National Guard, if you make it through the course you can go active duty then and not have to worry about ending up a cook.
Definitely informative and helpful.. but it doesn't change anything about what I am going to do if I'm going for 18 series, which I am. Does wash out mean quit? Does it mean getting injured and put in med hold? I get the feeling even if I choose backup jobs, and washed out, they are sti going to put me wherever they want unless my backup jobs are where they already need people.
Wash out typically means you didn't make it for some reason. For me it was getting dropped during land nav. It really depends on what's going on when you get dropped (if you get dropped). Some guys stay 11B some guys get reclassed. In my experience no one got anything on there wish list it was all just whatever the army needed at that time.
If that's what you want to do. Make sure you get airborne in your contract if that's what you want though, it's practically impossible to get it in the regular army unless you get lucky. Recruiters will always pressure you to make fast decisions but if they don't have what you want just wait until they do.
That may just be a national guard thing. I wish regular army would do that though. Everyone got a wish list after we failed SFAS but no one ever got anything they asked for.
@@JohnS677 yeah it could be only for NG. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Shoot for the longest time I didn't even know NG could do SF. Glad I did the leg work before signing my life away lol. Take care Jonathan 👍
so i am currently going through the recruiting process my initial idea was to sign a 4 year contract as 11X (and hopefully get 11B of course) and go from there but my main goal was to make a career out of the army and go for special forces either after my first contract was up or after my first deployment if possible does anyone see this as a viable option would i be aloud to do this?? is my recruiter lieing to me about this being a possible avenue?
Try to get the option 40 while in basic. Usually there is a transfer from 18x in RASP that did not make it through SF selection. You can ask them questions about SF selection while going through RASP. If you are able to be a Ranger you will get somewhat of an idea what it takes for SF.
@@moosepasshippie not a very good idea - when i was in pre/rasp/ranger school there were individuals tht used ranger school as a stepping stone or a fall back. you've no idea how badly this is thought of. plus rangers & green berets serve very different roles - anyone even thinking of either need to look in depth what exactly what mission types & rolls each do.
it's like joining a sports team....just because you're good doesn't mean you're what they're looking for. plus theres a massive emphasis on mental capabilities as well as physical. not to mention how many people were trying & how many places there were. it's a bit like several thousand kids looking ice cream - but the ice cream man only has 300....
My husband has an 18X contract and is in AIT right now at Ft Benning. I know he will make it through the training but I am worried about selections, like they just decide who they want & don’t want...? even if they pass the training? Fuck lmao.
Yeah unfortunately that's true. But he's already setting himself apart by doing all this, even if he doesn't get selected the training he got will effect the rest of his career. Good luck to him!
If you are already giving yourself an out by having a "fall back" MOS, you might as well never drop a packet, not until you change that attitude. Any fears you have before attempting SFAS, are simply things you should prepare for prior to attempting.
Google “US Naval Sea Cadet Corps”- program that will allow you to attend summer and winter trainings and give you the basics of the military- you can do to special operations trainings, some of which are taught by green berets.
And if you can't do a Naval Sea Cadet Corps I'd say just be active, maybe do sports. Learn how to push yourself. But most importantly figure out why you wanna be a Green Beret.
What is the cut off age to join SF? Im 27yr old, college graduate 2 years ago, and now Im in the process of getting into the Army. Just took my asvap. Now waiting for meps
I’ve heard you can drop an SF packet at any time to go to Selection, and I’ve thought for a while about going the 11X w/ Airborne (in contract) route. Does becoming Airborne qualified automatically put you into the 82nd Airborne?
It isn't automatic, just very likely. If your plan is SF I would be hesitant in just joining as an 11x as 11b or 11c (you don't choose the army does) may not be what you are wanting. But technically yes, you could put in a SFAS packet after joining.
Jonathan Shelton I’m hesitant to sign up as an 18X because of the possibility of ending up with an open contract if I washed out (I wouldn’t voluntarily, but if I got injured or something). They might recycle you, but it isn’t really a gamble I’m sure about taking.
@@rflxgaming9628 that's very fair, just understand if you go to a regular army unit you will have to keep yourself motivated in an environment where others aren't motivated and that is no easy task my friend.
I just signed a 18x contract and shipping out in February. I’ve been dealing with some minor lingering injuries. So I am not in the best shape of my life. Is the 22 week basic and prep courses enough time to get into shape for selection?
If I were you I would just do lots of yoga and stretching to try to heal your body as best you can then rely on the army to get you in shape when the time comes
Buy the book “stretch to win”. Best book on the market on stretching and how to stretch for injuries and injury prevention. Ruck a lot, run a lot, and if your banged up, bike or go on the elliptical for non impact cardio.
Shea Hanna Unfortunately my recruiter did not fill out a waiver I needed properly and I have not shipped out yet. Makes me upset but kind of a blessing in disguise bc I have gotten in a lot better shape. Still prepping for when this waiver gets processed.
Joey VazkZ if you’re truly going 18 X-ray route then just prepare your self for the physical requirements to get you the contract don’t overthink expecting it only makes it worse I heard also from as you battle everyday and don’t quick and pull your own weight you’ll be fine if your worried about sleep then maybe a choose a different mos sleep is your last concern
@@JohnS677 what are the max physical requirements. If I want to be special forces I want to make sure I get what I want because if I’m on par with everyone else and have a colorblind deficiency I don’t see why I would be chosen over someone else.
@@Checkmate777 it's more than a physical game it's a mental one as well. Even how you work with others makes a difference. What do you mean max physical requirements? Are you talking about the pt test and physical events?
@@JohnS677 I’m talking about the limit of where I need to be to clear. Is it like 10 mile run or a certain range of push-ups or sit-ups and pull ups. Right now I think I need to get in a little more shape and I don’t want to squeak by. I think my personality and mental state is good. I’m pretty egoless and and usually only talk when I need to. Most of the time I just listen. I’m really just concerned with my colorblindness which I generally think my vision is way better than others when it comes to spotting things or noticing anomalies. I’ve lived with women all my life in a dysfunctional family and I would love to have a group of loyal brothers. I’m asking about the physicalities because I don’t want to sign up prematurely and have them think I’m a vagina.
18x is probably the biggest bullshit contracts out there. Recruiters know it, but they stay spoon feeding it to kids who don't understand it. SFAS is full current service members. That means Ranger Regiment guys, Airborne guys, 10th mountain guys, and soldiers from all around. AND THEY'RE ALL COMPETING WITH A 65 PERCENT ATTRITION RATE. These are experienced soldiers who know their shit and have combat deployments. These kids coming in off the streets don't stand a chance. The recruiters will literally give it to anyone. Why should they care? their numbers are getting boosted. Big army LOVES this contract because it keeps all of the shit jobs full of the guys who flunk the course. You might even make it through the entire course just to be a 21 day non-select. They'll tell you something like "come back when you have more experience" "or come back when you mature a bit more" or if you failed the psychological evaluation/background checks you'll get dropped with a do not return. boom dream dead and now you've traded 5 years of your life to make minimum wage as an airborne cook. this ain't the contract you want. If you wanna go sf pick up an 11x contract with airborne and volunteer for rasp in osut. Then if you feel like you wanna go further put in a selection packet once you're in. with that method you've just killed the possibility of being an airborne boiler mechanic or some shit.
Tracy McBaby I’m 17 but I feel like it’s better to get 11x contract and then possibly transfer ,18x even if you pass all the training you still have to be selected and if your not then oh well
@@a.j2368 yes, exactly. i competed a 5 year contract as 11b as i wasn't a citizen - once i passed the exam with the civilians (uncle sam likes telling lies [that i would gain citizenship within 4 months] it sucked me in) once in the army & assigned to a unit/post you can drop a packet. if you wash out, then you'll be reassigned to your old unit rather than as the needs of the army.
Dont believe in 18X off the street SF guy. I served many years in group and dealt with what we refereed to as SF babies. Not mature enough to show up on a team
Green Berets are supposed to be very clever...and yet here you are driving and looking down to make a youtube video...real smart. You're supposed to take people out with your rifle, not with your car.
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Some guy “ joined to become special forces ends up cooking bacon... 😂”
Yeah, sucks for a lot of guys that it happened too.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Nothing wrong wit 92 G was a cook for 21 years loved it
@T M authenticity doubtful
Thank you so much Jonathan. may our sweet God continue to blesss you.
One of the more helpful videos I've watched man. Thank you
This is really helpful. I've been stuck on trying to decide what I'd like to try and be, I'm going to enlist soon.
Gwyn's Last Knight What are you gonna be?
@@mrbaconanimations4229 12B, Combat Engineer
Gwyn's Last Knight Nice I wanna become an 11B (Infantryman).
@@mrbaconanimations4229 Anyone can do that so I'd say you're good. Only thing is they'll put you in as an 11X. Everyone whose infantry gets that, then the Army decides if you're a mortman or you'll be shooting your rifle.
Dont do it
That’s a great honest video, thank you for the info, definitely hard to come by
Basically don't get an 18X contract. Pick a job you are interested in and then drop your SF packet. At least if you wash out you can fall back on your normal MOS.
Thanks
How would the Option 40 contract work ?
@@dreamyworld4111 you would finish your AIT then go to RASP. If you wash out you just go to a normal unit.
@@ninetails15000 so you wouldn't go to an infantry unit or like just something random ?
@@dreamyworld4111 you could. It just depends on where HRC wants to put you.
If you are an 11B you will go to an infantry unit though.
I am a 68W and I went to an infantry battalion for my first duty station. 🤷♂️
Well done and thanks for posting!
You're welcome! And thank you!
Great vid, you seem like such a good dude
Oh you never want to go world wide.
Incredibly helpful video, keep it up
Thank you I have an appointment with Recruiting officer tomorrow
Join 19th or 20th Group in the National Guard, if you make it through the course you can go active duty then and not have to worry about ending up a cook.
Definitely informative and helpful.. but it doesn't change anything about what I am going to do if I'm going for 18 series, which I am.
Does wash out mean quit? Does it mean getting injured and put in med hold?
I get the feeling even if I choose backup jobs, and washed out, they are sti going to put me wherever they want unless my backup jobs are where they already need people.
Wash out typically means you didn't make it for some reason. For me it was getting dropped during land nav.
It really depends on what's going on when you get dropped (if you get dropped). Some guys stay 11B some guys get reclassed. In my experience no one got anything on there wish list it was all just whatever the army needed at that time.
See after high school is it a good idea to straight away go into infantry 11x and the. Airborne school?
If that's what you want to do. Make sure you get airborne in your contract if that's what you want though, it's practically impossible to get it in the regular army unless you get lucky. Recruiters will always pressure you to make fast decisions but if they don't have what you want just wait until they do.
I got smacked with the Charlie stick
whats your deal? Are you trying to go back to SFAS??
Thank you for this video 🤙
Could you also do a video on selection? Thanks! 🤙
Thanks for watching!
Hmm... yeah, I suppose I could do one. Any part of it you are curious about?
could you do a video on how we could maybe prepare for the selection course based on your experience? or even just videos on the jobs themselves
@@ryanh7039 I got you bro, video is already uploaded
Is it the same, with other branches. Reclass when you wash out of SOCOM pipe lines?
From what I've heard, yes
In my rep 63 contract (18x) you pick 2 MOS's to fall back on. 1 has to be infantry the other has to be a non combat MOS. Just my experience tho.
When was this?
@@JohnS677 last week
That may just be a national guard thing. I wish regular army would do that though. Everyone got a wish list after we failed SFAS but no one ever got anything they asked for.
@@JohnS677 yeah it could be only for NG. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Shoot for the longest time I didn't even know NG could do SF. Glad I did the leg work before signing my life away lol. Take care Jonathan 👍
Did u make it or no ?
Same with Canada? JTF2, CSOR?
Probably depends on how well you do in your training
Are you going to turn in a packet and try again?
so i am currently going through the recruiting process my initial idea was to sign a 4 year contract as 11X (and hopefully get 11B of course) and go from there but my main goal was to make a career out of the army and go for special forces either after my first contract was up or after my first deployment if possible does anyone see this as a viable option would i be aloud to do this?? is my recruiter lieing to me about this being a possible avenue?
Yes, you can go SF after joining.
Try to get the option 40 while in basic. Usually there is a transfer from 18x in RASP that did not make it through SF selection. You can ask them questions about SF selection while going through RASP. If you are able to be a Ranger you will get somewhat of an idea what it takes for SF.
@@moosepasshippie not a very good idea - when i was in pre/rasp/ranger school there were individuals tht used ranger school as a stepping stone or a fall back. you've no idea how badly this is thought of. plus rangers & green berets serve very different roles - anyone even thinking of either need to look in depth what exactly what mission types & rolls each do.
What if you make it through but you aren't selected? Can you be reclassified? That would really suck if that's the case.
yes, unfortunately, that happened to one of my good friends. We went to the same AIT together when we reclassed.
check out life is a special operation
that guy is a fake
@@zwip778 How so
Anna-Clara explain
Anna-Clara explain
@@zwip778 explain
Wondering how you pass airborne school and had high enough GT and PT scores to get to selection, but the army decides you are now a cook?
You and me both.
Jonathan Shelton good ole big army
it's like joining a sports team....just because you're good doesn't mean you're what they're looking for. plus theres a massive emphasis on mental capabilities as well as physical. not to mention how many people were trying & how many places there were. it's a bit like several thousand kids looking ice cream - but the ice cream man only has 300....
My husband has an 18X contract and is in AIT right now at Ft Benning. I know he will make it through the training but I am worried about selections, like they just decide who they want & don’t want...? even if they pass the training? Fuck lmao.
I have that same question... I should be heading to FT Benning in August and I can get a Ranger and 18X contract in 2 years
Yeah unfortunately that's true. But he's already setting himself apart by doing all this, even if he doesn't get selected the training he got will effect the rest of his career. Good luck to him!
@@cubanking7036 you won't be able to get an 18x contract after you enlist but you can ask your command for permission to go to RASP or SFAS.
Where is your husband at now?
sky Shelby How did he do?
I sub!
If you are already giving yourself an out by having a "fall back" MOS, you might as well never drop a packet, not until you change that attitude. Any fears you have before attempting SFAS, are simply things you should prepare for prior to attempting.
What does wash out mean?
Fail
I want to be a green beret do you have any tips or advice to physically and mentally prepare I’m 13 so I have time to get ready
Google “US Naval Sea Cadet Corps”- program that will allow you to attend summer and winter trainings and give you the basics of the military- you can do to special operations trainings, some of which are taught by green berets.
Ethan Humrich Thank you so much
And if you can't do a Naval Sea Cadet Corps I'd say just be active, maybe do sports. Learn how to push yourself. But most importantly figure out why you wanna be a Green Beret.
Jonathan Shelton thank you! It really means a lot that you took the time to help me out man
Just get a option 40 then try sf later down line
That's a solid strategy, especially for younger guys.
Special forces is just irl rainbow six siege
What is the cut off age to join SF? Im 27yr old, college graduate 2 years ago, and now Im in the process of getting into the Army. Just took my asvap. Now waiting for meps
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Jonathan Shelton coo ty!
How did you keep from becoming a chef?
Don’t quit
Maaaaan this Cook shit is for the birds
What if you join as a 11b Infantry and then try to go 18x special forces? Do you still get reclassed as something they need?
No, I joined as 18x, then I was reclassed as a mechanic.
18x is just for civvies, people already in drop a packet
I was a rep 63, anyone can do it
How long is an 11x contract including training?
11X is typically a 3 year contract.
Jonathan Shelton thanks, is that followed by reserve or irr?
@@IkeCarterShow you are technically in the reserve for 5 additional years but that only applies if the US commences another draft.
Jonathan Shelton thanks for the advice!!!!
Can you join with an 18x contract at 18 years old or do you have to be 20 years old
Last i checked you had to turn 21 before selection
@@JohnS677 thank you
I’ve heard you can drop an SF packet at any time to go to Selection, and I’ve thought for a while about going the 11X w/ Airborne (in contract) route.
Does becoming Airborne qualified automatically put you into the 82nd Airborne?
It isn't automatic, just very likely. If your plan is SF I would be hesitant in just joining as an 11x as 11b or 11c (you don't choose the army does) may not be what you are wanting. But technically yes, you could put in a SFAS packet after joining.
Jonathan Shelton I’m hesitant to sign up as an 18X because of the possibility of ending up with an open contract if I washed out (I wouldn’t voluntarily, but if I got injured or something). They might recycle you, but it isn’t really a gamble I’m sure about taking.
@@rflxgaming9628 that's very fair, just understand if you go to a regular army unit you will have to keep yourself motivated in an environment where others aren't motivated and that is no easy task my friend.
or the heart
I just signed a 18x contract and shipping out in February. I’ve been dealing with some minor lingering injuries. So I am not in the best shape of my life. Is the 22 week basic and prep courses enough time to get into shape for selection?
If I were you I would just do lots of yoga and stretching to try to heal your body as best you can then rely on the army to get you in shape when the time comes
Bro I’m gonna be honest, basic will help. But you need to go in ready and in shape already. And not broken.
Buy the book “stretch to win”. Best book on the market on stretching and how to stretch for injuries and injury prevention. Ruck a lot, run a lot, and if your banged up, bike or go on the elliptical for non impact cardio.
update yet?
Shea Hanna Unfortunately my recruiter did not fill out a waiver I needed properly and I have not shipped out yet. Makes me upset but kind of a blessing in disguise bc I have gotten in a lot better shape. Still prepping for when this waiver gets processed.
You'd be a good 13F.
Bendak why do you say that??
Most guys go to rasp or psyops now when they don’t make it
I know it’s an old comment now but is this true? I’m looking at an 18x and worry about this happening to me lol
@@PixeladedGamer yeah if you don’t get selected there’s always that option if not it’s usually an infantry line unit
Hey how many days do you get to stay awake while in SFAS?
I'm not going into specifics of schedule but it's not like they are keeping you awake all the time
You'll get sleep.
Joey VazkZ if you’re truly going 18 X-ray route then just prepare your self for the physical requirements to get you the contract don’t overthink expecting it only makes it worse I heard also from as you battle everyday and don’t quick and pull your own weight you’ll be fine if your worried about sleep then maybe a choose a different mos sleep is your last concern
No wonder
I have a red/green colorblind deficiency. How bad is that
Depends on the demand for new soldiers, but I've definitely seen guys get waivers.
@@JohnS677 what are the max physical requirements. If I want to be special forces I want to make sure I get what I want because if I’m on par with everyone else and have a colorblind deficiency I don’t see why I would be chosen over someone else.
@@Checkmate777 it's more than a physical game it's a mental one as well. Even how you work with others makes a difference.
What do you mean max physical requirements? Are you talking about the pt test and physical events?
@@JohnS677 I’m talking about the limit of where I need to be to clear. Is it like 10 mile run or a certain range of push-ups or sit-ups and pull ups. Right now I think I need to get in a little more shape and I don’t want to squeak by. I think my personality and mental state is good. I’m pretty egoless and and usually only talk when I need to. Most of the time I just listen. I’m really just concerned with my colorblindness which I generally think my vision is way better than others when it comes to spotting things or noticing anomalies. I’ve lived with women all my life in a dysfunctional family and I would love to have a group of loyal brothers. I’m asking about the physicalities because I don’t want to sign up prematurely and have them think I’m a vagina.
@@JohnS677 I feel like I need to really overcompensate for my vision.
SFAS is not for the meek
Sucks that they turn special forces candidates into cooks
it's a way our luring stupid kids, to fill up an mos nobody else wants.
@@seanoneill991 very smart
18x is probably the biggest bullshit contracts out there. Recruiters know it, but they stay spoon feeding it to kids who don't understand it. SFAS is full current service members. That means Ranger Regiment guys, Airborne guys, 10th mountain guys, and soldiers from all around. AND THEY'RE ALL COMPETING WITH A 65 PERCENT ATTRITION RATE. These are experienced soldiers who know their shit and have combat deployments. These kids coming in off the streets don't stand a chance. The recruiters will literally give it to anyone. Why should they care? their numbers are getting boosted. Big army LOVES this contract because it keeps all of the shit jobs full of the guys who flunk the course. You might even make it through the entire course just to be a 21 day non-select. They'll tell you something like "come back when you have more experience" "or come back when you mature a bit more" or if you failed the psychological evaluation/background checks you'll get dropped with a do not return. boom dream dead and now you've traded 5 years of your life to make minimum wage as an airborne cook. this ain't the contract you want. If you wanna go sf pick up an 11x contract with airborne and volunteer for rasp in osut. Then if you feel like you wanna go further put in a selection packet once you're in. with that method you've just killed the possibility of being an airborne boiler mechanic or some shit.
NOT 8 BIT seems like exactly what he wanted to do
@NOT 8 BIT literally what he’s doing bro. He explained everything very well.
What’s the best advice on how to achieve this? Really wanna do it
Just do it. First step is prepping for basic and getting an 18x contract with a recruiter.
I’m gonna keep up with ur videos I’m only 16 but definitely gonna start working towards it
Tracy McBaby I’m 17 but I feel like it’s better to get 11x contract and then possibly transfer ,18x even if you pass all the training you still have to be selected and if your not then oh well
@@a.j2368 yes, exactly. i competed a 5 year contract as 11b as i wasn't a citizen - once i passed the exam with the civilians (uncle sam likes telling lies [that i would gain citizenship within 4 months] it sucked me in) once in the army & assigned to a unit/post you can drop a packet. if you wash out, then you'll be reassigned to your old unit rather than as the needs of the army.
Dont believe in 18X off the street SF guy. I served many years in group and dealt with what we refereed to as SF babies. Not mature enough to show up on a team
I want to be a fake navy seal and this video was of no use to me...
Dennis Morris sf is better than seals bud
Green Berrets would eat them seals alive
AB school was easy n kinda fun
Green Berets are supposed to be very clever...and yet here you are driving and looking down to make a youtube video...real smart.
You're supposed to take people out with your rifle, not with your car.
Meh